[01:46] <qkzoo1978> hello
[06:05] <absk007> is there any hosts file manager e.g. hostsman for Windows
[06:07] <wxl> absk007: http://alternativeto.net/software/hostsman/?platform=linux
[06:07] <absk007> wxl, nothing
[06:07] <absk007> already searched
[06:07] <wxl> absk007: that's all i got.
[06:08] <wxl> absk007: looks like you can run it in wine http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=147710
[06:09] <absk007> wxl, spybot Search and Destroy goes one step further by immunizing individual browsers
[07:02] <shay_shay> any installer devs here
[07:02] <shay_shay> major derp in the current installer images
[07:03] <shay_shay> btrfs-tools is completely missing from the iso
[07:03] <shay_shay> lol
[07:03] <shay_shay> which is one of the options in the manual partitioner
[07:04] <shay_shay> its fine for me because i made one with it
[07:04] <shay_shay> but if you try to install on btrfs with the current installer it gets an error
[07:29] <jared> shay_shay: the developers aren't always around but if you think it's important you can log a bug for them to see.
[08:08] <absk007> how to use openvpn client easily?
[08:44] <Junka> hello, when i start a guest session i get an error "No session for pid xxxx"
[09:20] <junka1> i am junka. I switched to my home user account without loginout from the guest account
[09:20] <junka1> when i tried to go back i got a new guest session
[09:21] <junka1> with a different pid
[09:30] <Couchmonster> Heyho
[09:31] <Couchmonster> Is there anyone related to the lubuntu HP
[09:31] <Couchmonster> the documentation section is down
[09:31] <Couchmonster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
[10:09] <switchtehbeat> sup
[12:06] <user123321> Please help, my machine crashed at 17.20 display time, rebooted with ctrl+alt+printscreen+r+i+u+s+b,  kernal log around that time: http://pastebin.com/mm0tUxzm
[12:06] <user123321> thanks :)
[13:03] <testdr> user123321: your pastebin says: this paste has been removed
[13:23] <JunKa> is there a way to make sylpheed use the native notify osd?
[13:31] <JunKa> nvm
[13:40] <JunKa> when i run users
[13:41] <JunKa> i see my guest-xxxxx user account
[13:41] <JunKa> but when i do login guest-xxxxx and enter blank password it fails
[14:07] <wxl> phillw: not yet
[14:15] <JunKa> how can i create notifications?
[14:33] <holstein> JunKa: for what? where?
[14:34] <holstein> JunKa: you are trying to login as guest in a terminal? i dont know that you can do that.. guest is a "special" user account that doesnt remember things
[14:35] <JunKa> yes i know holstein, but i haven't logged out so the session is still there
[14:35] <holstein> JunKa: no
[14:35] <holstein> JunKa: its not the way it works.. you get a new environment each time
[14:36] <holstein> JunKa: if you want to be able to save states, you'll need a traditional account.. the guest accout is just for guests to use, to isolate and limit them
[14:36] <JunKa> holstein: have you tried ubuntu? if you select from the gear on top right the guest session it returns me to my session
[14:36] <holstein> JunKa: ok..
[14:36] <JunKa> IF i haven't logged out
[14:36] <holstein> JunKa: its still not designed to be that way, and lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[14:36] <JunKa> but just switched
[14:37] <holstein> JunKa: if i want an account that acts like a traditional account, i make one.. thats what i suggest.. dont expect to leave the guest account and come back like that
[14:37] <JunKa> i know but ubuntu's fast switch user was able to do it
[14:37] <holstein> JunKa: if ubuntu is addressing that somehow, you can ask about it and apply it to lubuntu, since lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[14:37] <wxl> …though it will probably require tons of extra cruft
[14:37] <holstein> JunKa: then, use the fact user switcher.. lubuntu is lxde + ubuntu, and lxde is *light* .. thats what the l is for
[14:38] <wxl> since ubuntu == extra cruft
[14:38] <holstein> JunKa: so, there are many things that are not in the "ligher" distros
[14:38] <JunKa> i know i was just wondering if there was an alternative way
[14:38] <holstein> JunKa: but still, even in ubuntu, the purspose of the guest account is not that.. i suggest making another user account regardless, if you want a traditional user
[14:39] <JunKa> holstein: -_- you missing the point
[14:39] <holstein> JunKa: if you want to add that funcitonality, add the tool
[14:39] <holstein> JunKa: im sharing my opinion that its a bad idea to trust the guest account in this way
[14:39] <JunKa> i have no idea what tool is that, besides it's probably a gnome thing
[14:40] <holstein> JunKa: the "fast user switcher" you reference
[14:40] <wxl> JunKa: and you're right it's probably built into the de somehow.
[14:40] <holstein> JunKa: gnome is gtk.. lxde (at least for now) is gtk.. lubuntu *is* ubuntu, so add the tool from ubuntu to lubuntu if you want it
[14:40] <holstein> JunKa: what notifications are you trying to create where? with what?
[14:41] <wxl> JunKa: so you have to decide how important it is to have the fast user switcher versus creating your own regular user account to act as guest
[14:42] <JunKa> http://www.hecticgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/System-menu-in-Ubuntu-14.04-LTS.png
[14:42] <JunKa> here that;s the thing
[14:42] <JunKa> i can go back and forth this way
[14:42] <JunKa> but not if i go back to lightdm
[14:43] <holstein> JunKa: correct.. this is as expected, friend
[14:43] <wxl> that's pretty much an intregal part of unity afaik JunKa
[14:43] <holstein> JunKa: if you want to add that tool, you likely can.. but, i say, if prefer the way unity is working you may just want to use it
[14:44] <holstein> JunKa: the guest account shouldnt be trusted that way, regardless. its not for that purpose.. its intended as an amnesia user that is isolated from your machine.. for guests
[14:44] <JunKa> ok let's let it be this way then
[14:44] <holstein> JunKa: you can create a user, which will work as you are needing easily from within lubuntu/lxde or any other de
[14:45] <holstein> JunKa: or, you can ask upstream what it is specifically that faciliates that functionality, and add it to lubuntu
[14:46] <JunKa> as for the notification, i want to create a 'new email' notification for sylpheed. Sylpheed preferences allow me to add a command by i don't know what to input, notify-send wants me to install another package
[14:47] <holstein> JunKa: i would expect to install whatever is already made that would facilitate the funcitonality.. is the other package a notification for sylpheed?
[14:48] <holstein> otherwise, i would just try and test sending something til it works.. i have, in the past, switched notifiers for such functionality.. are you able to send a notification from a terminal?
[14:48] <JunKa> sylpheed does not have any and i dont wanna install extra packages
[14:48] <JunKa> i have xfce-notifyd, and i'd like to use that
[14:49] <JunKa> but i am not familiar with the command
[14:49] <holstein> JunKa: notification systems are quite reasonable in size.. i personally would just use what is being suggested
[14:49] <holstein> if you are so tight on space that a notification system cant fit on the hard drive, i dont think you'll be able to use the system for anything like downloading emails..
[14:50] <JunKa> lubuntu creates notification by default
[14:50] <JunKa> how can i recreate one
[14:50] <JunKa> notifications*
[14:50] <holstein> one, what?
[14:50] <JunKa> notification
[14:51] <holstein> JunKa: what im saying is, i would test sending from the terminal
[14:51] <holstein> JunKa: i hear you asking "how do i send email notifications from sylpheed" and it has a custom notifcation config space
[14:51] <holstein> JunKa: i would use a terminal to test that i understand how to send, and that they are being sent.. notify-send 'Hello world!'
[14:52] <holstein> JunKa: can you send notifications from the terminal?
[14:52] <JunKa> no, notify-send is not the proper command
[14:53] <holstein> JunKa: friend, using *any* command, are you able to send from the terminal? if not, what commands are you using? what are the errors? please us a pastebin to help the volunteers help you..
[14:53] <holstein> !paste
[14:53] <holstein> JunKa: what command are you using? whats the output when you try "notify-send 'Hello world!' " ?
[14:54] <JunKa> i don't know other commands besides notify-send, that's what i am basically asking
[14:54] <holstein> JunKa: please, open a terminal, and run "notify-send 'Hello world!' " and paste the output here.. the errors
[14:54] <JunKa> The program 'notify-send' is currently not installed.
[14:55] <holstein> JunKa: why not install it?
[14:55] <holstein> sudo apt-get install notify-send
[14:55] <JunKa> I don;t want it. My system makes notifications e.g. network manager
[14:55] <JunKa> i just wanna figure out how
[14:56] <holstein> JunKa: sudo apt-get install notify-send
[14:56] <holstein> its quite small, and should allow you to send notifications as you are asking
[14:56] <holstein> !info notify-send
[14:56] <holstein> !info notify-osd
[14:57] <holstein> ^^
[14:58] <holstein> sudo apt-get install notify-osd
[15:01] <JunKa> ok holstein thank you
[17:22] <Nklobe> hmm i cant get this irc going in my normal client... is there anyone who's got a working conf beside this webclient?
[17:26] <wxl> Nklobe: yep
[17:26] <Nklobe> can you pass your url conf?
[17:26] <wxl> Nklobe: what client do you have?
[17:27] <Nklobe> f-irc
[17:27] <wxl> huh never heard of that
[17:27] <wxl> suffice it to say you need to use irc.freenode.org
[17:27] <wxl> 6667 should work fine or use 7000 with ssl
[17:27] <Nklobe> im new into irc and i needed a client so i just did a apt.cache search irc and picked one at random... :D
[17:29] <wxl> if you're a noob you'd probably have better luck with xchat
[17:29] <wxl> OH
[17:29] <wxl> f-irc is a console client
[17:29] <wxl> then you should use irsii or weechat
[17:30] <Nklobe> there! thnx! i just missed the "irc." in the url
[17:30] <wxl> i think chat.freenode.org works too
[17:30] <Nklobe> yeah i have friends complaining about me not using irsii
[17:31]  * wxl shrugs
[17:31] <wxl> i love irssi
[17:31] <wxl> but it seems like f-irc might be the easier way to do things
[17:31] <Nklobe> yeah i just installed it and read the man page and i was good to go
[17:34] <wxl> Nklobe: do you know if it can do split windows? just vertically or horizontally as well?
[17:35] <Nklobe> hmm havent looked in to that... ill check i out
[17:36] <wxl> Nklobe: i've been meaning to switch to weechat for the split options available but even outside of that i heavily use the windows and splits available in irssi
[17:36] <wxl> i'm in 24 channels on freenode, and that's just this server, so i need the option to organize
[17:38] <Nklobe> i do not think it has the windowsplit.
[17:38] <wxl> it's useless to me then :)
[17:38] <Nklobe> but it very easy to navigate the channels, and im not a poweruser when it comes to irc so im satisfied at the moment!
[17:39]  * wxl nods
[20:03] <prettyconfused> hi everybody
[20:03] <prettyconfused> after installation tried to change language to German
[20:04] <prettyconfused> cannot apply systemwide, any hints?
[20:05] <prettyconfused> German is still "greyed out"
[20:05] <phillw> prettyconfused: did you install the full language pack?
[20:05] <prettyconfused> went to preferences, language
[20:06] <prettyconfused> went to "install/remove languages", chose German, packages were downloaded
[20:06] <prettyconfused> cannot apply changes, because German is not an option to choose :-(
[20:06] <phillw> prettyconfused: have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/LanguageSupport ?
[20:07] <prettyconfused> will have a look
[20:07] <prettyconfused> this is exactly what I did
[20:07] <phillw> prettyconfused: you 1st have to install total language support. There is not room on the CD to hold multiple languages
[20:08] <prettyconfused> distro is LXLE, 1,2 GB on usb stick
[20:08] <holstein> prettyconfused: this is lubuntu support.. lxle is *not* lubuntu
[20:08] <prettyconfused> English (United States) and English were preinstalled
[20:09] <holstein> prettyconfused: you can try the ubuntu documentation that is linked, but, they (lxle) may have changed anything in the loop there that could break the way its done in lubuntu/ubuntu
[20:09] <phillw> prettyconfused: I do not know what lxle use for language support.
[20:09] <prettyconfused> @holstein: its base on lubuntu
[20:09] <phillw> prettyconfused: and lubuntu is based on linux, same as red hat is... same instructions will not work :)
[20:09] <holstein> prettyconfused: sure.. and its *not* lubuntu. you can try the proceedure, and if you have issues, you must use lxle support.. we have no way of tracking what has happened to the base
[20:09] <prettyconfused> first time this happens to me, worked flawlessly when i did install distro before
[20:09] <Unit193> prettyconfused: So is Peppermint last I looked,  LXLE support is in #lxle
[20:10] <Unit193> What's the pull for LXLE over Lubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[20:10] <holstein> prettyconfused: let them know you are having issues with the product they make
[20:10] <prettyconfused> i am not ware that there is a lxle channel on freenode
[20:10] <wxl> Unit193: um it's lts, ummmm, errrr
[20:10] <prettyconfused> its 14.04 lts
[20:10] <holstein> prettyconfused: try the one listed above.. or the one that the lxle site suggests
[20:10] <Unit193> wxl: Exactly..
[20:10] <holstein> prettyconfused: its *not* though.. its lxle..
[20:11] <prettyconfused> @holstfein: you are totally right,
[20:11] <holstein> !tab
[20:11] <prettyconfused> as there are many folks in the lubuntu channel and lxle is based on lubuntu I thougt i could get some help#
[20:12] <wxl> prettyconfused: we don't deal with lxle. they could have changed all sorts of things.
[20:12] <prettyconfused> ubottu, thank yuo
[20:12] <prettyconfused> you
[20:12] <phillw> prettyconfused: http://lxle.net/support/
[20:12] <wxl> prettyconfused: the instructions WE have for lubuntu are documented above by phillw.
[20:13] <wxl> prettyconfused: if that doesn't work, then the problem probably exists in lxle.
[20:13] <phillw> they seem to have some sort of IRC channel.
[20:13] <holstein> prettyconfused: try the official ubuntu/lubuntu documentation.. but, there is no support for lxle here or at ubuntu
[20:13] <wxl> prettyconfused: i have an easy solution: get lubuntu.
[20:13] <phillw> +1
[20:13] <prettyconfused> wxl, lol
[20:13] <holstein> yeah.. its a larger community, if support is what you need..
[20:13] <wxl> prettyconfused: i'm serious! we know that well and can easily support it
[20:14] <prettyconfused> thanks anyway to everybody responding
[20:14] <testdr> prettyconfused: und Deutsch funktioniert einwandfrei sofort mit einem Lubuntu-14.04.1 Install von der Live-Version
[20:14] <phillw> prettyconfused: as our devs are spread across the world... one thing that does work... language support :)
[20:14] <prettyconfused> i have installed and used lubuntu, and its a great distro, thank you all
[23:44] <Replop> hi
[23:44] <Replop> how to open a terminal in a network share ?
[23:45] <Replop> I browsed PCManFM  , it gave me an smb:// adress , cding toward that in a terminal doesn't give good results