[06:03] <didrocks> good morning
[06:04] <happyaron> didrocks: morning, can you check the MIA request again? ;-)
[06:05] <happyaron> MIR... typo
[06:05] <didrocks> happyaron: hey! I guess you mean MIR? :)
[06:05] <didrocks> happyaron: will do, but probably tomorrow. I need to backlog on emails first
[06:05] <didrocks> (just back from vacations)
[06:05] <happyaron> great
[06:25] <ypwong> happyaron, you're early today :)
[06:28] <happyaron> ypwong: actually late today, 23:28 already.
[06:42] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:42] <seb128> happyaron, you are at debconf?
[06:45] <happyaron> seb128: yes
[06:46] <seb128> happyaron you are doing all conferences this summer ... :-)
[06:47] <happyaron> seb128: I agree, it's quite tiring to travel around...
[06:47] <seb128> happyaron, with all this drinking and partying as well, right? ;-)
[06:48] <happyaron> no, that only happens at that very place..
[06:48] <seb128> lol
[06:49] <happyaron> but yes, they've asked me to join them when I'm back to Beijing
[07:07] <pitti> bonjour didrocks ! oooh, tu es retour !
[07:07] <pitti> didrocks: as-tu eu des bonnes vacances ?
[07:07] <didrocks> Guten Morgen pitti! Long time no see :)
[07:08] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[07:08] <pitti> happyaron: hey, how are you?
[07:08] <didrocks> pitti: oui, les vacances étaient très bien (mais j'ai eu les épaules bloquées depuis une semaine :( )
[07:08] <didrocks> pitti: et toi ?
[07:08] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va bien ?
[07:09] <pitti> didrocks: urgh, Julie's post looked like you were hanging out on beaches, not ruining your shoulder?
[07:09] <pitti> seb128: oui, merci ! et toi ?
[07:09] <happyaron> pitti: good, and you?
[07:09] <happyaron> :)
[07:09] <pitti> happyaron: quite fine, thanks
[07:10] <didrocks> pitti: we were, didn't prevent to probably endure some cold wind which hardened my muscles I guess :)
[07:12] <didrocks> pitti: how were your holidays btw?
[07:12] <pitti> didrocks: very quiet and relaxing; we mostly stayed at home as the weather was really bad
[07:12] <pitti> didrocks: so no paragliding :/
[07:13] <pitti> didrocks: but I enjoyed a week off anyway, I felt a looot better
[07:13] <didrocks> pitti: argh :/ yeah, it seems it was something general all over europe anyway this summer…
[07:13] <pitti> didrocks: and that friend of mine was still here, so we could hang out a bit
[07:13] <pitti> yeah, April and August just got swapped
[07:13] <didrocks> ah nice, that what worthes holidays: a change in habits/people around :)
[07:13] <didrocks> yep
[07:14] <didrocks> pitti: even in the south of France, which isn't Lyon, at the beach, the water temperature was between 18 and 20
[07:16] <pitti> didrocks: heh, yeah, with zero stress about planning, hotels, travel, etc. :)
[07:16] <didrocks> heh, indeed :)
[07:17] <didrocks> speaking of hotels, we finalized the booking for Japan! \o/
[07:17] <pitti> didrocks: instead, we tinkered around a bit to install a solid pole foot in the garden for hanging up a hammock
[07:17] <pitti> didrocks: ooh! quand avez-vous aller ?
[07:17] <pitti> "allez vous"
[07:18] <didrocks> pitti: ah, that's a nice plan (the hammock ;)), that's our only disappointment of "only" having a balcony
[07:18] <didrocks> pitti: du 27 septembre au 17 octobre
[07:19] <didrocks> we booked our flights a while back, but we didn't for the hotels until recently
[07:19] <didrocks> (as we needed to ensure the dates for every places we go to)
[07:19] <seb128> didrocks, all set then? ;-)
[07:20] <seb128> didrocks, seems like you should be able to come to the client week as well
[07:20] <didrocks> seb128: still the trains: we know which one to take and so on, but I would prefer that we look at their time schedule
[07:20] <seb128> k
[07:20] <didrocks> seb128: didn't see any official announcement, but yeah, from what I heard, that should be ok :)
[07:20] <didrocks> seb128: we already know what we are going to visit, per half a day
[07:20] <seb128> oh, pitti gets setting's mps now, nice ;-)
[07:21] <seb128> didrocks, great
[07:21] <pitti> seb128: yeah, and bugs; need to teach my .procmailrc about it :)
[07:22] <seb128> pitti, welcome on board, we can always use extra hands on settings ;-)
[07:23]  * pitti runs desperately :)
[07:23] <didrocks> oh, I don't see my ubuntu-developer-tools-center autopkgtests…
[07:23] <didrocks> probably I made something wrong
[07:24] <pitti> didrocks: no XS-Testsuite:
[07:24] <didrocks> ahah :)
[07:24] <pitti> didrocks: these days, dpkg-source adds it automatically
[07:24] <didrocks> yeah, so adt manual run works :p
[07:24] <pitti> but we only merged this like a week or two ago
[07:24] <didrocks> pitti: ok, will add, however, I need to check with you on running my medium tests (and why not large tests as well)
[07:24] <pitti> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/1.17.13ubuntu1
[07:24] <didrocks> for medium, I need to be able to download a docker image
[07:25] <pitti> didrocks: nah, please just try a rebuild; the .dsc should then get it automatically
[07:25] <maxb> c
[07:25] <maxb> oops
[07:26] <didrocks> pitti: ok, will do that! do you think you will have time later this week for the medium tests?
[07:26] <pitti> didrocks: actually, it got into this version: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/1.17.12ubuntu1
[07:26] <didrocks> nice that it's automated now :)
[07:26] <didrocks>   * Automatically add the Testsuite field in dpkg-source to the .dsc file.
[07:26] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, last weeks were a bit crazy, I didn't get to looking into the proxy issues; but with you being back to poke me, we can do that
[07:26] <didrocks> got it :)
[07:26] <didrocks> great!
[07:27] <didrocks> I'll need to find victims as well to run udtc on their machine :p
[07:27] <didrocks> machines*
[07:28]  * seb128 feels like didrocks he looking at him through IRC
[07:28] <pitti> and it worked!
[07:28] <didrocks> \o/
[07:29] <didrocks> I don't know any other i386 victim :p
[07:29] <pitti> /plugin load stare-down
[07:29] <pitti> ERROR: no such plugin
[07:29] <didrocks> ahah
[07:29] <pitti> didrocks: i3what? oh, those old 16 bit IBM PC thingies? :-)
[07:31]  * pitti has a flashback about DOS programming with page and offset addressing craziness
[07:31] <didrocks> hehe :)
[07:32] <seb128> youngers...
[07:32] <seb128> i386 ftw!
[07:36] <pitti> 6510 FTW!
[07:36] <didrocks> so feature freeze was last week, the MIR wasn't updated and the update submitted to mterry I guess (seeing what happyaron told me this morning)
[07:37]  * didrocks isn't assigned to the bug, so I would appreciate a link btw to when I'll look at it again
[07:37] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, mterry is just too busy with rtm
[07:38] <didrocks> so, we'll need a FFe I guess to seed it
[07:38] <darkxst> didrocks, hey, can you promote tracker?
[07:38] <seb128> didrocks, we decided to postpone the fcitx by default, even for Chinese, but we would still like to be able to build-depends indicator-keyboard and u-s-d with it to add support for fcitx users
[07:38] <seb128> even if we don't use it by default
[07:38] <seb128> so it allows opting in
[07:38] <seb128> but yeah
[07:38] <seb128> going to need a ffe
[07:38] <didrocks> darkxst: I need to recheck after doko's discussion on the bug after latest uploaded, so not today for sure (just back from holidays)
[07:38] <willcooke> morning dudes
[07:39] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:39] <didrocks> darkxst: but can add that by EOW
[07:39] <didrocks> hey willcooke!
[07:39] <didrocks> seb128: ah, great then!
[07:39] <seb128> didrocks, that might also reduce the number of sources we need to MIR this cycle
[07:39] <seb128> like no need of engines and such
[07:40] <didrocks> seb128: so, the MIR doesn't cover them anymore?
[07:40] <didrocks> like, the bug was updated to state that clearly?
[07:40] <seb128> didrocks, I don't think so, we still want to MIR those next cyclm
[07:40] <seb128> the MIR is still valid
[07:40] <seb128> it's just an order of priorities
[07:40] <seb128> happyaron ^
[07:40] <darkxst> didrocks, ok thanks, I have temporarily disabled the few deps that were not in main
[07:41] <didrocks> happyaron: and please, reassign me one of the component, that's the way we ping/pong
[07:41] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, I read that in between 2 huge pile of emails :) anyway, before EOW, I'll have a quick look
[07:42] <happyaron> didrocks: I have sent an reply for that MIR
[07:42] <happyaron> didrocks: isn't that sufficient?
[07:42] <didrocks> happyaron: didn't get it you didn't assigned me to one of the task once ready for me to rereview :)
[07:43] <darkxst> didrocks, ok thanks ;)
[07:45] <happyaron> didrocks: ok, assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fcitx/+bug/1356222
[07:45] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1356222 in librime "[MIR] fcitx and related packages" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[07:45] <didrocks> happyaron: perfect, will get back to you! thanks :)
[07:45] <happyaron> thanks!
[08:25] <willcooke> ZOMG!  Glances is awesome!
[08:26]  * seb128 glances at willcooke
[08:26] <seb128> not an easy name to google for :p
[08:26] <willcooke> :D
[08:26] <willcooke> apt-get install glances
[08:26] <seb128> CLI, curses
[08:26] <seb128> nah
[08:26] <willcooke> :D
[08:26] <seb128> not that kind of geek ;-)
[08:27] <willcooke> pfft.  Amateur
[08:27] <seb128> hehe
[08:28] <seb128> installed it anyway to have a look, seems like a decent utility ;-)
[08:29] <willcooke> :D
[08:36] <willcooke> hey FJKong, 1:1 meeting today?
[08:36] <FJKong> willcooke: I am in meeting with NUDT, I will ping you some minutes later ok?
[08:36] <willcooke> sure thing
[08:36] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[09:36] <FJKong> willcooke: ping
[09:37] <willcooke> hey FJKong
[09:37] <FJKong> meeting done
[09:37] <FJKong> willcooke: 1 1?
[09:37] <willcooke> yeah, let's do it FJKong
[09:37] <willcooke> I'll send you a hangout
[09:37] <FJKong> willcooke: ok
[10:09]  * didrocks goes for a run
[11:03] <larsu> pitti: hi! How do I set something like XDG_DATA_DIRS in a package test?
[11:04]  * larsu was wondering why his tests failed while building the package but not while doing make check
[11:05] <pitti> larsu: not sure I understand the question -- export XDG_DATA_DIRS= ... ?
[11:08] <larsu> pitti: I guess I'm asking for the best practice (I don't ususally deal with packaging)
[11:08] <pitti> larsu: you can set it in debian/rules, in override_dh_auto_test (or wherever you call the tests)
[11:09] <larsu> pitti: okay, that's what I would have done but it feels a bit hacky. Thanks!
[11:09] <pitti> larsu: yeah, it's a workaround for an upstream bug
[11:09] <pitti> the upstream tests should set the data dir itself if it's using some local data
[11:09] <larsu> ah, maybe I should do that then
[11:26] <seb128> larsu, was that the issue with the uitk error?
[11:27] <larsu> seb128: ya :(
[11:27] <seb128> hum, k, at least you figured it out!
[11:27] <larsu> I'm setting it manually now - even though it feels a bit odd to hard code it to /usr/share
[11:27] <larsu> qt is doing that even in production code when XDG_DATA_DIRS is empty or not set
[11:31] <larsu> seb128: got some early review comments in the process though
[11:31] <larsu> looks like this can get in very soon
[11:32] <seb128> great!
[11:32] <Sweetsha1k> moin all!
[11:32] <seb128> good morning Sweetsha1k
[11:32] <seb128> how are you?
[11:33] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: Im misnamed.
[11:33] <Sweetshark> this is better.
[11:33]  * ogra_ actually liked Sweet Schalk :)
[11:34] <Sweetshark> ... and I bring presents: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/utopic/4.3.1/libreoffice-l10n_4.3.1~rc2-0ubuntu1_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/utopic/4.3.1/libreoffice_4.3.1~rc2-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[11:34] <Sweetshark> seb128: ^^ can you sponsor those to utopic?
[11:36] <Sweetshark> ogra_: Eating one clown for breakfast each day keeps the worries away.
[11:36] <seb128> Sweetshark, sure
[11:36] <ogra_> *omnomnomnom*
[13:10] <seb128> mterry, hey
[13:11] <mterry> seb128, hello!
[13:11] <seb128> mterry, sentence case is what johnlea/unity designers have been asked us to use consistently for some years
[13:11] <seb128> mterry, GNOME HIG was using "One Case By Word" style
[13:11] <mterry> seb128, I've been asking about freezes in #ubuntu-unity, you can see scrollback a bit
[13:11] <seb128> looking
[13:20] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:20] <seb128> kenvandine, I sent some easy uss bugfixes, if you feel like doing trivial reviews ;-)
[14:58] <sabdfl> willcooke, seb128, wow
[14:58] <sabdfl> just updated my utopic desktop-next machine (XPS 27 touch screen All-in-One)
[14:58] <willcooke> sabdfl, you got the session bug fix via updates?
[14:58] <sabdfl> YEAH!
[14:58] <willcooke> ha, I was just about to ping you about that
[14:58] <sabdfl> what a blast
[14:58] <sabdfl> video worked in the browser!
[14:58] <willcooke> Its pretty sexy right!
[14:58] <sabdfl> yes it most certainly is
[14:59] <willcooke> My 6 year used U8 to open YouTube and watch videos full screen, no help needed
[14:59]  * sabdfl wants screencasts
[14:59] <sabdfl> isn't it interesting, i have Win8 on a similar machine right next door
[14:59] <willcooke> sabdfl, me and jorge are on it.  Blog post with pics & vids on its way
[14:59] <sabdfl> complete bafflement every time i go in there
[14:59] <sabdfl> nice
[14:59] <sabdfl> anyway, kudos to the guys i know it's a side side thread BUT it's very cool to see
[14:59] <sabdfl> and FAST
[15:00] <willcooke> Thanks sabdfl - I will be sure to pass on your comments to the whole team
[15:33] <seb128> sabdfl, nice! ;-)
[15:34] <sabdfl> seb128, yes, really exciting to see
[15:36] <seb128> indeed
[15:36] <BigWhale> Hello all.
[15:39] <BigWhale> Who's the go-to-guy for compiz/opengl/unity type of a question? I've implemented webcam support for Kazam and when webcam is enabled a window with webcam feed will open. Now, when you run a game in full screen the 'always on top' webcam window will not stay on top. No matter what properties I set to it. :/
[15:40] <seb128> BigWhale, you can try to ask Trevinho or ChrisTownsend I think
[15:41] <BigWhale> seb128, thanks! Altho, I'm already pessimistic about it... :> It seems like it is a opengl thing.
[15:41] <seb128> yw!
[15:43] <didrocks> pitti: hum, so the autopkgtests are failing on adt, even if all tests pass for me (the coverage is the one expected at the small tests alone don't exercise the whole code, only small + large exercise 99% of it): https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-ubuntu-developer-tools-center/lastBuild/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console
[15:45] <mterry> seb128, you were right.  I asked Design and they said sentence capitalization is fine.  That's what I get for assuming they talk to each other  :)
[15:46] <didrocks> (actually, the % in nose-cov is wrong, if I run just a subpart of my tests, it's way higher)
[15:51] <seb128> mterry, ;-)
[15:51] <seb128> mterry, it's not "fine", it's "needed" :p
[15:51] <seb128> i.e that's what we use consistently
[15:52] <mterry> seb128, I just wish visuals from Design could be taken at face value.  Ah well
[15:52] <seb128> mterry, yeah, that would be nice
[15:52] <mterry> seb128, updated branch and commented as such
[15:52] <ChrisTownsend> BigWhale: So what I *think* is going on is that most fullscreen windows are unredirected meaning they have total control of the video buffer and hence have more performance.  When a window is unredirected, then it will be the only window displayed even if Always on Top is set for other windows.
[15:52] <seb128> too much turnoever in design team though
[15:52] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[15:53] <seb128> mterry, sorry for bouncy my "design should be frozen" complain in your direction btw, you are just the messenger there
[15:53] <mterry> seb128, it's a legitimate complaint for sure
[15:53] <ChrisTownsend> BigWhale: However, there is a whitelist in ccsm in which you can set fullscreen windows to not do this and it might allow Always on Top windows to show, but I'm not sure.
[15:53] <seb128> yeah, just not directory to the right person
[15:54] <ChrisTownsend> BigWhale: In ccsm->Composite->Unredirect Match, you can add another !(Class=x) for your fullscreen game and see if it helps.
[15:56]  * didrocks found what hackery was mocking coverage report wrong (even if that doesn't explain why adt says the tests failed when they didn't)
[15:56] <didrocks> well, it says the RET code is 0, testing locally is 0 though
[15:56] <didrocks> and no KO
[16:03] <didrocks> hum, got a fix, but that's weird…
[16:04] <didrocks> (for the coverage report)
[16:12] <seb128> attente_, hey, so I updated my system/restarted my session, fcitx forces qwerty when it starts (in a way that makes i-k not update, but I guess that's the missing signal issue we discussed)
[16:12] <seb128> same in session, if I quit fcitx, change to azerty, run fcitx I get put back to qwerty
[16:12] <didrocks> found a proper fix (still for the wrong coverage report, will wait for pitti for the adt failing)
[16:12] <attente_> seb128, are you by any chance using the setting "allow different sources for each window"?
[16:14] <seb128> attente_, no
[16:14] <seb128> attente_, using the first option "same for all windows"
[16:15] <attente_> seb128, but this problem is only happening initially when the session starts? or is it also happening when you open a new window?
[16:16] <seb128> attente_, it's happening constantly as long as fcitx is running
[16:17] <seb128> attente_, like I run fcitx, it goes to qwerty
[16:17] <seb128> I use i-k to pick fr back
[16:17] <seb128> I alt-tab to gedit
[16:17] <seb128> it's back to swerty
[16:17] <seb128> qwerty
[16:17] <seb128> so seems every time a win gets focus
[16:18] <seb128> attente_, fcitx doesn't have fr/azerty in its config
[16:18] <seb128> only qwerty and pinyin
[16:18] <attente_> i see
[16:18] <seb128> that could be the issue?
[16:18] <attente_> i guess you're using fr+oss?
[16:18] <seb128> yes
[16:20] <attente_> seb128, when you type is it azerty though?
[16:20] <attente_> or is it just a problem with what fcitx-qimpanel is showing?
[16:20] <seb128> ?
[16:21] <seb128> no, when I say "it changes to qwerty" I mean "when I hit z on my keyboard it gives me a w"
[16:21] <seb128> I'm not even sure I've qimpanel
[16:21] <seb128> I've the indicator that shows a keyboard icon but doesn't give indication of what is selected
[16:23] <attente_> seb128, can i get your 'gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources sources' please?
[16:24] <seb128> [('xkb', 'fr+oss'), ('xkb', 'gb'), ('ibus', 'pinyin'), ('fcitx', 'sunpinyin')]
[16:24] <seb128> attente_, ^
[16:26] <attente_> seb128, thanks, i see it
[16:27] <seb128> attente_, w
[16:27] <seb128> attente_, how/what did you change?
[16:27] <seb128> yw!
[16:27] <attente_> seb128, just that i see the problem now
[16:28] <seb128> k
[16:28] <seb128> let me know if you need more info or if you have a fix to test
[16:30] <tkamppeter> willcooke, hi
[16:31] <willcooke> hey tkamppeter
[16:34] <attente_> seb128, can you check your fcitx configuration under 'Global Config' -> 'Share State Among Window'?
[16:38] <attente_> i guess this problem is just because fcitx doesn't have that particular variant of fr+oss...
[16:44] <seb128> attente_, that combo is set to "No"
[16:48] <seb128> changing that combo doesn't make a difference there, even after restarting fcitx&co
[16:49] <attente_> yeah, i tried it with "All", but it still happens
[16:50] <attente_> which is counter-intuitive to me because i would think fcitx should stop changing the IM when the focused window changes
[16:52] <attente_> probably we should disable the fcitx-xkb module, but then i'm not sure how we would show the current keyboard layout in fcitx-qimpanel
[17:06] <attente_> bah, ok, i know what's wrong
[17:18] <happyaron> seb128: hey, can you help me check why ibus stuck in -proposed? is it only because freeze or there's anything else to deal with?
[17:18] <seb128> happyaron, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[17:18] <happyaron> ok, bookmarking the url
[17:19] <seb128> "Not touching package due to block request by freeze (contact #ubuntu-release if update is needed) "
[17:19] <happyaron> yup
[17:19] <seb128> it was probably blocked before that though
[17:19] <seb128> the freeze is not that old
[17:20] <seb128> but we don't have records of old reasons afaik, so we need for the freeze to lift to know what other issues there are
[17:22] <happyaron> ok
[17:37] <didrocks> ok, that's more than enough for today and fixed the coverage issue (77% for small tests alone, which makes more sense), see you tomorrow guys!
[18:09] <Sweetshark> seb128: still no utopic upload it seems. any blockers?
[18:09] <seb128> Sweetshark, I forgot sorry, doing it now
[18:11] <Sweetshark> seb128: np, thx ;)
[18:17] <BigWhale> ChrisTownsend, thanks for the info, I'll look into it.
[18:21] <seb128> Sweetshark, done