[01:06] pitti`: help [01:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/share-app/+bug/1360670 [01:06] Ubuntu bug 1360670 in share-app (Ubuntu) "drop from archive" [Undecided,New] [01:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libhud-qt/+bug/1360671 [01:06] Ubuntu bug 1360671 in libhud-qt (Ubuntu) "drop from archive" [Undecided,New] [02:53] Howdy [02:55] I have a question about setting up APN, specifically because I’m on an MVNO and I can get the settings, but I’m not finding the terminal commands to accomplice this. [02:55] I’ll keep googling, but so far my search terms aren’t working very well [02:56] **accomplish [02:57] if anyone is able to help I would appreciate it :) [03:10] also what is the default password? Search results say it’s “phablet” but that’s not working. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:48] Can anyone elp me how to uninstall Ubuntu Touch from my Nexus 7 tablet [03:57] * hackersarchangel sighs [03:59] any advice on what I need to change to get SMS/Data working? === _salem` is now known as _salem [04:23] I have been editing the gsrp file under /var/lib/ofono// but that doesn’t appear to be helping. [04:37] is the GSRP file the same syntax as the android one? if so I can just drop that into place. [04:38] I know the android one is xml based, and this doesn’t appear to be but you never know [04:46] Wellark: what's up? [04:46] Wellark: the two "drop from archive" bugs? [04:46] * pitti does them [04:49] ... [04:53] pitti: I have had trouble to find someone to take care of them [04:53] so thanks! [04:54] Wellark: ah, just subscribe ~ubuntu-archive, then it usually gets taken care of [04:54] they were supposed to be dropped for 14.04 already, but got burried [04:54] Wellark: should that go from RTM, too? [04:54] pitti: they are not seeded to rtm [04:55] ack, indeed [04:58] * Wellark hopes LP would allow to set project status to "abandoned" [04:58] oh, well.. [04:59] Gentlemen, I understand you are busy working on the project, but can I snag a moment of your time? [05:02] hackersarchangel: sure [05:02] I’m having some trouble getting SMS/3G to work, and I want to make sure I’m editing the right file [05:03] also wondering what the default password is for ‘phablet’ seeing as I tried ‘phablet’ and this not working [05:03] I’m editing /var/lib/ofono//gsrp [05:03] hackersarchangel: the password is what you set the passcode to be in first run wizard [05:04] and I have a Nexus 5 on Sprint using an MVNO, and I have to change my APN in Android. [05:04] Ah! Thanks. Never even occurred to me to try that. [05:04] hackersarchangel: under /var/lib/ofono [05:05] hackersarchangel: I'm actually working on a graphical editer to modify the broadband settings ATM [05:05] Ok so I am editing the correct file. That at least helps, I now just need to figure out what the settings are supposed to be aside from just the mmsc change. [05:05] Sweet. [05:05] hopefully get that done and landed today [05:06] hackersarchangel: if you edit the files directly [05:06] you need to stop ofono while editing [05:06] I’m using the nightly but I’m not using Ubuntu One, so I’m not sure if the Multi-Rom will see that update soon or not. [05:06] I’m editing it from within Android and rebooting. [05:06] $ sudo stop ofono [05:06] [05:06] but that saves me the headache of rebooting xD [05:06] $sudo start ofono [05:07] Sir, I thank you for helping me out, this is a great start. [05:07] Now I know all my Google searching was right, I’m just not finding the right settings. [05:07] hackersarchangel: you might also have to manually tell NetworkManager to activate the new settings [05:07] even from a reboot: [05:07] ?? [05:08] so after editing /var/lib/ofono/{IMSI/gprs [05:08] do [05:08] nmcli c [05:08] and locate a line there that says something like /{IMSi}/contextX [05:09] and do $ nmcli c up id /{IMSI}/contextX [05:10] as I said, I hope to land the graphical editor today [05:10] I have a bunch of those. Tell you what, I’ll start from scratch and see what happens. [05:10] which will make all of the pain go away [05:10] Lol [05:10] Ok and should I update from within the GUI or continue using Multi-Rom to update it? [05:10] hackersarchangel: you can just do $ sudo stop ofono [05:10] $ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/ofono [05:10] sudo start ofono [05:11] and you have a "clean" setup [05:11] sweet. [05:11] Thanks a bunch man. [05:11] hackersarchangel: np. my pleasure [05:11] if it doesn’t work I’ll stick to stock Android as my daily driver but I’m interested to see how this pans out. [05:12] hackersarchangel: it should work if you enter the correct values under /var/lib/ofono/{IMSI}/gprs [05:12] you can get those values from your operator [05:12] for 3G [05:12] Right. [05:13] the only relevant value really is the AccessPointName [05:13] for MMS you need the message center and friends [05:13] The only thing they are giving me is the APN address and I think I’m fudging up too many pieces. [05:13] APN address is usually enough [05:13] unless the operator is doing something nasty [05:14] No, it’s Ting as my provider [05:14] hackersarchangel: what is your operator? [05:14] which country? [05:14] US [05:14] they are an MVNO of sprint, and the only thing I change on Android is the MMSC [05:14] to get MMS working, the 3G/LTE kicks in when doing PRL/Profile updates [05:15] been looking at some of the APN files for flashing and I am probably just mucking it up by changing too much. I’ll tinker and figure it out :) [05:16] … it just told me I had a read-only FS. [05:16] hackersarchangel: "Ting" you said? [05:16] Ting. [05:16] that's not even par tof https://git.gnome.org/browse/mobile-broadband-provider-info/tree/serviceproviders.xml [05:17] Not surprised. [05:17] hackersarchangel: hmm.. is it a CDMA phone? [05:17] as we don't currently support CDMA [05:17] They’ve only been around maybe 2 years? [05:17] OH [05:18] Wait no I’m using a Nexus 5 with a SIM [05:18] it might still be CDMA modem on it [05:18] but I think that it is CDMA [05:18] ah. [05:18] Well rats. [05:18] ok. then you are out of luck for now' [05:19] sorry ;( [05:19] So I’m guessing Sprint is a no. [05:19] Just in the general sense. [05:19] Because I can use the phone on it but no SMS. [05:20] Which if I had to live without 3G I am fine with that, but no SMS would make a lot of my friends go bonkers. [05:20] hackersarchangel: ok. normal SMS should work if you can place phone calls [05:20] but MMS are more tricky [05:20] hackersarchangel: do you have adb access? [05:21] could you provide the output of [05:21] /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems [05:21] just slam it to pastebin.ubuntu.com [05:21] so what do I type to get that? I know what you mean by ADB. [05:22] hackersarchangel: plug in usb cable, type "phablet-shell" on your terminal [05:23] that should log you in to the phone via SSH connection [05:23] then you can just type /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems and hit ENTER' [05:24] hackersarchangel: I found this: [05:24] http://www.4gtricks.com/2013/08/sprint-apn-settings-for-android-phone.html [05:24] we could try those values [05:24] Service org.ofono not found on DBus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files [05:24] wait. [05:24] Derp'd [05:24] hang on [05:25] you probably did not log in to the phone [05:25] that just tells that your desktop/laptop is not running ofono :) [05:25] actually I forgot to restart it === _morphis is now known as morphis [05:25] ok so it’s saying I have a read-only file system [05:25] and I can’t delete the /var/lib/ofono folder [05:26] which is what I was doing then we continued onwards and I became ahead of myself [05:26] so that is another issue altogether I suspect. [05:28] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8156257/ [05:29] Well I’m about to lose my battery, so I’ll go ahead and see if I can get it working on my own, but if not I’ll come back tomorrow night and just hang out here while working on it. [05:30] hackersarchangel: what is the contents of /var/lib/ofono? [05:30] $ sudo ls /var/lib/ofono [05:30] drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Aug 27 00:27 310120020448886 [05:30] drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Aug 27 00:27 310120020448886-3 [05:31] ok. that -3 is weird [05:31] one second [05:31] hackersarchangel: what is the contents of /var/lib/ofono/310120020448886/gprs ? [05:32] after you have stopped ofono [05:32] just a second [05:32] you should be able to do: $ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/ofono/* [05:33] I just did that, it cleared out the folder but it did bring back the -3 [05:33] I’ll paste bin it [05:33] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8156283/ [05:33] hackersarchangel: please paste both /var/lib/ofono/310120020448886/gprs and /var/lib/ofono/310120020448886-3/gprs [05:34] there isn’t one in -3 [05:34] just a version file [05:34] which is blank [05:35] hackersarchangel: ack [05:35] hackersarchangel: looking at your latest paste [05:35] ack? [05:35] there are a lot of contexts pre-populated [05:35] Yeah. [05:35] hackersarchangel: ACKnowledged :) [05:35] lol [05:35] nice. [05:36] hey I’m at 1% battery life, so my MacBook is going to shut off here in a minute. [05:36] hackersarchangel: try [05:37] $nmcli c up id /310120020448886/contexts8 [05:37] *context8 [05:38] that should get you 3G [06:42] is it possible to use touch on cheap quadcore android phone? === asac` is now known as asac [06:45] good morning [06:45] o/ [06:45] hello dholbach [06:49] hi asac :) [06:50] morning [06:50] anyone had try to install touch on a cheal china quadcore phone ? [06:51] pitti, seb128: are you familiar with how .desktop files are translated? Or do you know someone who is? :-) [06:53] mardy, sort of, what's the question? [06:54] mardy, usually they have translated keys merged back in (like the source has a .desktop.in and generate the .desktop including the translations at build time) [06:54] mardy, we strip the translations and use an X-Ubuntu/GNOME-Gettext-Domain= key to load those from gettext in Ubuntu [06:54] seb128: exactly! [06:55] seb128: so, the problem with this is that g_app_info_get_display_name() doesn't translate them [06:55] hum, are you sure? [06:55] seb128: or maybe I don't have the translations, I should probably double check that... [06:56] seb128: I was just looking at this, but I didn't check yet if translations are there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1356939 [06:56] Ubuntu bug 1356939 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "List of authorized applications aren't localized" [High,New] [06:56] seb128: and we are using g_app_info_get_display_name() to get the application name [06:57] mardy, the thing is that the gettext thing doesn't work for clicks, since they don't have their .mo in the standard gettext location [06:57] so we need to merge back the inline translations for those [06:57] pitti was looking at some of those issues yesterday I think [06:58] dbarth__: my gmail webapp is kinda buggy; seems to not remember my cookies (e.g. when i start again i have to log in all over); also i cannot switch accounts anymore [06:58] seb128: these are not clicks, it's the sync daemon and account-polld; but I see that .mo files are missing, so it might be their bug after all [06:58] dbarth__: want me to file a bug or is this already known? [06:58] mardy, right [07:01] sergiusens: you don't have a bug tracker for account-polld? [07:02] mardy: ah nice, you are using GAppInfo? Our glib is patched to use gettext, but indeed that requires the .mo files to be installed in the standard paths (i. e. won't work for clicks) [07:02] mardy: but that mega-tracking but mostly applies to deb packages [07:03] mardy: there, the problem is that the .desktop files are missing the X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain field [07:03] pitti: yes, the information comes from libaccounts-glib, which is using GAppInfo, and then its API is wrapped in Qt and QML [07:03] mardy: ah, I meant bug 1318008, not your's (that might be differnet) [07:03] bug 1318008 in Ubuntu File Manager App "Core apps .desktop files do not include translated strings" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1318008 [07:04] pitti: for account-polld, and sync-monitor, the X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain is properly set, but the .mo files are not there [07:17] ogra_: do you remember if there had been discussion about making our rootfs not ship any apps? [07:17] but rather move those into a "ubuntu default app pack" customization tarball or something? [07:18] ogra_: i vaguely remember that something like this was discussed at some point (3+ month ago); but can't remember what the outcome/arguments for doing/not-doing this were [07:18] asac: go ahead, i haven't noticed that myself [07:18] asac: latest -proposed? [07:19] dbarth__: no on rtm [07:19] rtm-proposed [07:19] so yeah kind of latest -proposed [07:19] ok [07:19] dbarth__: can w add gmail as a testcase to your webapp engine for landings in future? [07:20] asac: when you switch between accounts, or just plain forgets any of your authentication? [07:20] dbarth__: just simple: 1. log in; 2.log into second account; switch account; kill and start and see that you are still logged in and can switch [07:20] ok [07:20] dbarth__: kind of yeah. so i can log in and use it for one account [07:20] then i log into another account,but always end up in the first account [07:20] so the switch doesnt have effect [07:20] hmmm ok [07:21] if i kill app and start again it is logged out === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth [07:21] very weird... i am sure you will see if you try :) [07:21] dbarth: which package shall i file this against? [07:21] lp:webapps-core [gmail] [07:21] ping asac [07:21] bzoltan: dont ping, just speak :) [07:21] whats up? [07:21] need to split the project, but that's the one for now [07:21] asac: I am about to release a new UI Toolkit package and I see here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html that the landing is blocked with "Not touching package due to block request by freeze" excuse. [07:21] dbarth: no ubuntu package? [07:21] or same? [07:22] asac: Mirv told me that it is because of the Edubuntu bet afeature freeze [07:22] err [07:22] asac: that sounds odd.. edubuntu blocking RTM [07:22] UITK is seeded in Edubuntu, so it's considered part of the freeze by default [07:23] bzoltan: not RTM, the RTM UITK release would be separate from utopic release.. it's still in a silo [07:23] bzoltan: its wrong indeed. once slangasek gets up he will fix this i am sure; until then lets see if we can get someone else in -release to pay attention [07:23] Mirv: who is the driver behind edubuntu? [07:24] Mirv: is it OK to land in RTM something what is not in Ubuntu? [07:24] asac: I'm not sure if they have a dedicated driver in the community, but the release team controls the freezes anyhow [07:25] Mirv: who is in release team anyway? [07:25] Mirv: i know the foundations folks, but they are all in portland [07:25] so looking for someone who mighit be awake right now [07:26] asac: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+members [07:26] Laney: ^^ [07:26] help! [07:26] :) [07:27] ok shot mail to graber, steve and ian [07:27] bzoltan: but you're correct, as utopic landing is required currently before RTM landing, this makes community derivative blocking our rtm distro landing :S [07:27] not sure if he is debconf too... lets see [07:27] Mirv: can we see in the excuses that efverything else is green? [07:27] or does it not even test that? [07:28] Mirv: who says that community does not influence the Ubuntu phone project :) [07:28] asac: yes we can see, all autopkgtests have passed [07:28] if its all green we can claim that it is in and do the publish into rtm imo [07:28] to bandaid this [07:28] right [07:28] bzoltan: do you have yuour stuff in an rtm silo ready? [07:28] and QA sign off etc.? [07:28] if not, just do that and move [07:29] while you are done we might have resurrectredt aht. if not we can workaround given the argument above until they show up [07:29] asac: it is in the rtm ilo5 and ubuntu silo9 [07:29] bzoltan: and already signed off by QA for RTM? [07:29] there's RTM silo, but it's not on the spreadsheet as robru copied it manuall, and it does not have QA signoff yet [07:29] that's one thing for today, making those RTM silos not added manually to spreadsheet visible to QA team needing signoff [07:29] Mirv: ok, can you help getting that QA sign off setup and arranged? [07:30] asac: sure [07:30] Mirv: well, that manual step feels like a lesser evil [07:30] :) [07:30] and a correction, there's a manual entry on the spreadsheet [07:30] if thats what it takes let dos do it to keep the procss moving [07:30] bzoltan: please mark the line 38 tested for RTM, and let's get signoff from QA for that [07:30] right, so if bzoltan is done with testing then set it to done and get qa on it [07:30] let me know if there is any problem [07:31] yes, this should be alright now again [07:31] ok colin fixed the block [07:31] so business as usual [07:31] thanks [07:35] have you guys used ubuntu touch yet? [07:36] every day, yes [07:36] what devices have you install ubuntu touch on? [07:37] LeelooOnline: N4 is your best bet for now [07:37] asac, nope, i wasnt in that discussion [07:38] LeelooOnline: just get a used one from ebay and you will be happy :) [07:38] any larger devices? e.g. 11 inch? [07:39] LeelooOnline, if it isnt that urgent you could wait til the first ubuntu phone go on sale ... [07:39] *phones [07:39] thats tablet; you can try the N10, but we don't really put much focus on it, so it might be a bit rough :) [07:39] but should work in general. at least noone really complained to me yet [07:40] many people complain :) [07:40] just yesterday someone was here and did [07:40] not to me :P [07:40] i think the sidestage works far less than optimal :) [07:40] no, but to me [07:40] so it cant be that desastrous [07:41] would be too easy if there were no challenges [07:41] hehe [07:41] it definitely boots to a session :) [07:41] em ...I am looking for a tablet that can replace my giant laptop and running linux..... :-( [07:41] but as i heard it isnt much usable [07:41] LeelooOnline: nexus7 [07:42] yeah, the nexus7 works pretty well ... close to the quality of the nexus4 image i'd say [07:42] running nexus7 myself with touch, working smoothly [07:43] OK Thx guys. [07:43] but be careful to get the right n7 if you consider buying one [07:43] avoiding mali gpus is a good idea at least in the near future [07:44] the 2013 version or 2012 version [07:44] ?? [07:44] LeelooOnline: 2013 wifi [07:44] !devices | LeelooOnline [07:44] LeelooOnline: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [07:44] oh we have a bot that knows all that. nice :) [07:45] Thanx! [07:52] sil2100: wrt. bug 1357252, want me to copy the cgmanager fix from utopic to rtm? [07:52] bug 1357252 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "systemd-shim fails to handle cgmanager being unavailable" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357252 [07:55] hey, i realllly need to run the OOBE tutorial thingy one more time [07:55] how can I do that? [07:58] pitti: yeah, that would be great :) [07:58] sil2100: done [07:58] \o/ [07:59] copy-package -b --from ubuntu -s utopic --to ubuntu-rtm --to-suite 14.09 cgmanager [07:59] Now just for tedg to re-release his u-a-l [07:59] for the record (not sure whether you can run this yourself) [08:00] I'm only a MOTU right now, so not really any power in this territory [08:07] sil2100, i think fro uinverse to universe copies that would still work for you [08:07] Probably, but not for cgmanager anyway [08:07] copy-package should be able to check permissions that fine grained [08:10] mardy: pitti ubuntu-bug account-polld [08:10] what are you doing up already ? [08:10] ogra_: yes, but cgmanager is in main [08:11] pitti, yeah, just mentioning it :) [08:11] asac`: wrt the discussion about removing click apps by default was rejected [08:12] sergiusens: I want to add account-polld to this existing bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1356939 [08:12] Ubuntu bug 1356939 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "List of authorized applications aren't localized" [High,Incomplete] [08:12] sergiusens: but it says that account-polld has no bug tracker [08:12] mardy: done [08:12] mardy, erm, you need to use the package, not the upstream branch [08:12] mardy: "Also affects distribution" [08:12] sergiusens: ah, silly me! :-) Thanks :-) [08:13] we generally dont use the upstram branches for distro bugs [08:13] mardy: on ogra_'s recommendation we did a project wide upstream disablement of the bug trackers to force them to be ubuntu-bugs [08:13] right [08:13] so that ubuntu-bug works with them ... and you cant really know if the bug you have isnt caused by a maintainer script error [08:14] mardy: I wonder what I'm missing to fix it though; I just followed dpm's recommendations [08:14] ogra_: in an ideal world; someone would log the ubuntu bug and then a gatekeeper might link it upstream [08:14] never happens :-P [08:14] since I can't really triage ubuntu bugs [08:15] yeah, its utopic [08:15] :P [08:15] ogra_: just makes triaging harder; === ValicekB_ is now known as ValicekB [08:15] bugs are a black hole anyways [08:15] why ? [08:15] they only get noticed for real real if they are too serious or if people make you notice it :-P [08:15] weather you filter by package or by upstream project shouldnt really make a difference [08:16] you can subscribe to packages for which you want to have all bugmail [08:16] ogra_: one more step in the _process_ ;-) [08:17] in setup, yes [08:18] sergiusens: right, what was the rational for not doing it? [08:18] please remind me :P [08:18] mardy: ogra_ I wonder how the mo files got removed; they were there (I use spanish on my phone now to help with translations) [08:19] sigh .. i thought paul disabled the known broken clock test [08:19] * sergiusens never used an os in a different language than english [08:19] no image test results at all today :((( [08:19] really? [08:19] clock breaks the whole image? [08:19] asac`, yes, there is a known issue with the clock [08:19] (app) [08:19] ogra_: but how can that break the whol etesting? [08:20] it cant download the test and falls over [08:20] ogra_: and the whole infra falls over becauuse of that? [08:20] phablet-test-setup apparently runs in the install stage [08:20] can we fix that the tests become availa gain? [08:20] asac`: here's cjwatson's response for that https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06900.html [08:20] and pulls in all tests as the first step [08:20] ogra_: clock was updated? [08:21] asac`, we'll definitely talk about that in 10min in the meeting, yes [08:21] sergiusens, yep, clock-reboot replaces it [08:21] * ogra_ gets meeting coffee [08:21] sergiusens: ok thanks. seems that didnt take into account that we could have an ubuntu-standard customization tarball that we ship as our default image [08:21] * sergiusens checks jenkins [08:21] asac`: yes; that was how my proposal started [08:21] the new unity8 is soooo lovely [08:21] ogra_: wait, can we not just make the tests available somewhere? [08:22] * ogra_ was totally surprised when the apps properly restarted [08:22] sergiusens: ok. will talk to folks next week again about this :) [08:22] thanks! [08:22] Saviq, awesome work !! [08:22] ogra_, glad, we still need some visual feedback that it restarts [08:22] but the plumbing's there [08:22] dandrader's work [08:23] * asac` wants that :P [08:23] sergiusens: thx for checking what append to clock. feels like something we could fix at least to a poinmt that the image tesing doesnt fall over [08:23] happened [08:24] asac`: that's easy; just do phablet-click-test-setup --click $click per click [08:24] thanks popey [08:25] sergiusens: how? [08:25] sergiusens: we cant taouch infra for now [08:25] asac`: I don't really mind moving some apps to such a custom tarball if it actually exists (which should happen *before* any removal); my reply was because people seemed unaware of the flexibility that click offers and thought that that approach was the only way to have some core apps not show up for carriers [08:25] asac`: well; on infra [08:25] cjwatson: all right. lets talk next week. [08:25] sergiusens: cant we fix this without infra stitches? [08:25] cjwatson: I think your reply was good; but I can attest that asac`hasn't read it yet [08:25] i meann... just put the tests in right place [08:25] asac`: however if you're doing that you should check how things work with regard to people branching the standard custom tarball, since I expect any procedures that exist now will consist of creating one from scratch [08:26] asac`: the above and the linked post are all I have to say on the subject really :) [08:26] to be clear, if at all, this is a post RTM topic [08:26] as long as people are making intelligent use of the facilities available ... [08:26] asac`, dont bother ... it is known, we discussed it in the landing meeting last night and will look at it now too [08:26]