[00:02] <bashusr> what was brotosaurausex problem?
[00:02] <bashusr> he was utterly unhelpful
[00:02] <wheatthin> trolling
[00:02] <bashusr> but he was asking for others to be kicked
[00:02] <bashusr> i don't know of trolls that ask for ops to kick ppl
[00:02] <wheatthin> again, trolling.
[00:02] <bashusr> usually they just troll and they don't help answer questions
[00:02] <bashusr> he even tried answering my question lol
[00:02] <wheatthin> lol
[00:02] <andreb> i was doing an update from 12.04.3 to 12.04.5 and my /boot when up to 92% usage....
[00:02] <bashusr> let me ask agian since he's gone...
[00:03] <bashusr> andreb, are you wondering how to clear that?
[00:03] <andreb> it looks like its now downloading the 3.13.0.34kernel
[00:03] <andreb> :(
[00:03] <bashusr> andreb, http://www.jmccc.com/blog/archives/2013/06/03/removing-old-linux-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[00:03] <bashusr> i wrote that
[00:03] <bashusr> eerrr, that's my blog
[00:04] <_Alexander__> would apt-get autoremove that care of that, bashusr?
[00:04] <bashusr> but i didn't originate that command... i found it through lots of googling
[00:04] <bashusr> _Alexander__, maybe?
[00:04] <DalekSec> _Alexander__: Generally speaking, yes.
[00:04] <bashusr> did it always do that?
[00:04] <bashusr> back in 2010, it seemed like the only way online to do it... :-/
[00:05] <andreb> kewl
[00:05] <andreb> thanks  bashur waiting for the kernel update to be finished
[00:05] <bashusr> np andreb
[00:06] <bashusr> how can i enable remote desktop sharing for a desktop session when I only have ssh access?
[00:06] <ezioa> noooooooooooooooooobody knows my troubles
[00:06] <ezioa> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25516800/cannot-sendmail-as-any-user
[00:07] <DalekSec> bashusr: You can start up vnc, and tunnel that through ssh.
[00:08] <bashusr> DalekSec, how particularly? I tried and i got a new desktop session
[00:08] <bashusr> i need to connect to my existing session
[00:08] <bashusr> basically, i need to turn on screen sharing...
[00:09] <DalekSec> Set $DISPLAY to the correct display, and run something like: x11vnc -safer  (if you have that installed.)
[00:09] <ezioa> bashusr, check out team viewer
[00:09] <ezioa> very good
[00:09] <bashusr> ezioa, it looks like your SMTP server knwos about your domain
[00:09] <ezioa> yeah but im not sending mail from my domain
[00:09] <bashusr> ezioa, it is saying that whateverbogususer@yourdomain.com doesn't exist and it won't send mail from it
[00:09] <andreb> $^@#$^#@^$^#$ my kernel upgrade failed :(
[00:10] <bashusr> ezioa, can i start up team viewer remotely from ssh only to an existing x11 session?
[00:11] <andreb> bashur it doesnt want to do teh kernel upgrade via teh ubuntu update centre ... it failed... asked me to reboot... i rebooted.. same kernel 3.5.0-54
[00:11] <ezioa> bashusr, oh .. yes.
[00:11] <andreb> and the uption to upgrade the kernel no longer avaiblie in the update centre
[00:12] <wheatthin> andreb, purge with a reinstall option
[00:12] <bashusr> andreb, why aren't you upgrading to latest LTS?
[00:13] <andreb> bashur i cant do a direct upgrade
[00:14] <andreb> our email software zimbra ... needs me to upgrade to the latest kernel in 12.04.5.... then upgrade zimbra to 8.5... then do an upgrade of ubuntu to 14.04.x and then do a zimbra upgrade
[00:14] <wheatthin> andreb,   just do an upgrade to 14.04 and then update the software afterwards?
[00:15] <andreb> i asked if i could do that... and they pointed me toa doc that said not to do that :(
[00:15] <wheatthin> andreb, Umm I don't see why not..
[00:16] <wheatthin> just dont' try to update to a ppa kernel and then try upgrading, cause you'll break something
[00:24] <Masterjedi688> Ok, I downloaded the new lubuntu 14.04.  The Internet icon does not appear on the bar at the bottom of the screen
[00:24] <Masterjedi688> Where do I go to download Flash?  There are 3 terminal windows from what I can see.  which terminal window do I use?
[00:25] <andreb> bushusrthat cleared up my kernelissue
[00:26] <Masterjedi688> Does Lubuntu have an app center where I can go and download it from there instead of the terminal window?
[00:26] <andreb> thanks for the link your blog is awesome
[00:29] <LostNva> Masterjedi688, you could type: download latest linux flashplayer in your browser.
[00:29] <OerHeks> lubuntu comes with lubuntu softwarecenter
[00:30] <Masterjedi688> I'll give it a try LostNva
[00:30] <Masterjedi688> Thanks
[00:34] <Masterjedi688> Which version of Flash player from Adobe do I download?
[00:35] <Ben64> none
[00:35] <Ben64> !flash | Masterjedi688
[00:40] <andreb> i need some rest.. talk to you folks tomorrow
[00:40] <Masterjedi688> Thanks Ubottu for the link
[00:47] <thevira> need some help with installing airtel dongle, Tried wine, it doesnt't work,Also tried following a blog which asked me to copy files from the dongle to disk then run a file on the terminal,i am unsure how to run the concerned file in the terminal
[00:47] <Platypus-Man> when I try and upgrade software packages, 3 of them are 'held back' for some reason; "linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic".. complete output here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=N0qCS5F2
[00:51] <Bashing-om> Platypus-Man: Try terminal command -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- to install the new kernels.
[00:52] <Platypus-Man> Bashing-om: didn't think of running dist-upgrade since I am already on 14.04, but it seems to be working, thank you :)
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Platypus-Man: Great .. dist-upgrade is apt's smart mode, does not effect the release upgrade, only installed packaging .
[00:57] <Seannie> easy question = irc what is the search for channels command
[00:59] <bubb> . /list
[00:59] <Sierra> Seannie: /msg alis help list
[00:59] <Sierra> Running /list on freenode is a bad idea. Too many channels
[00:59] <bubb> hmmm good point
[00:59] <Sierra> Although, if this is for another irc network.. Alis only exists on freenode, so either /list or /msg chanserv help list
[01:02] <Seannie> ty
[01:08] <nmbvnm> i have a clock issue
[01:08] <teward> nmbvnm, be a little more detailed please?
[01:08] <nmbvnm> my computer clock are set several hours past the current time
[01:09] <mellamokb> installing wine,, it is stuck preparing to unpack .../ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.4+nmu1ubuntu1_all.deb for 10 miuntes
[01:09] <mellamokb> is this normal? how do i fix?
[01:09] <nmbvnm> -timezone to be precise
[01:11] <salomao> if you are sincronizated at a net with server not rigth it's the problem, nmbvnm.
[01:11] <teward> nmbvnm, is it a time offset equivalent to what the UTC time would be rather than your timezone?  (i.e. that number of hours off)
[01:12] <nmbvnm> yes, negative one
[01:12] <kostkon> mellamokb, did you accept the eula?
[01:12] <salomao> s/rigth/setted/
[01:13] <mellamokb> kostkon, i didn't see eula.. i killed process, rebooted, and second time through i got eula,, seems to be working now
[01:13] <kostkon> mellamokb, ok
[01:13] <nmbvnm> my tz is +3, now it is 1 GMT, my clock show 4 but computer clock are 7
[01:14] <nmbvnm> salomao: ubuntu gives me no info on that
[01:15] <sleepy-owl> i need some advice on creating a Qt development environment on my system, i saw qtcreator in the repos but wanted to ask here before i go and get what the default packaging installs, any tips on what to definitely get and what not before i wreck my system?
[01:16] <Ben64> nmbvnm: pick the correct time zone... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata'
[01:16] <salomao> are you inside a private net, nmbvnm?
[01:16] <kostkon> sleepy-owl, there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[01:17] <sleepy-owl> kostkon, thank you i will try there as well
[01:17] <nmbvnm> i have the correct time zone, but the clock are broken at boot time
[01:18] <asynechiea> hello. could someone point me to the xorg.conf file on ubuntu 140.04?
[01:18] <asynechiea> 14.04*
[01:19] <nmbvnm> why there is no any configuration options in ubuntu?
[01:19] <teward> nmbvnm, some configuration options are behind the scenes.  By "clock" you mean your system time, and not your operating system's clock, right?
[01:20] <teward> nmbvnm, and by "system time" i mean the time you see when you look at the clock in the BIOS
[01:20] <nmbvnm> i mean the computer clock
[01:20] <salomao> admin?
[01:21] <teward> nmbvnm, both clocks are "computer clocks".  one is the system clock for the computer itself in BIOS, the other is the clock on Ubuntu/Windows/[insert other operating system here].  Which of the clocks is wrong?
[01:21] <nmbvnm> bios clock
[01:21] <nmbvnm> it is changed during the boot
[01:22] <Sierra> Wouldnt that be the battery on the motherboard needing to be replaced? Think it was called the cmos battery
[01:23] <nmbvnm> Sierra: don' t be absurd
[01:23] <teward> nmbvnm, ok that's because Ubuntu is set up by default to set the BIOS clock to UTC.  We can change that
[01:23] <teward> nmbvnm, open the command prompt, and run this: `sudo nano /etc/default/rcS`
[01:24] <teward> nmbvnm, see if there's a line saying "UTC=yes"
[01:24] <teward> if there is change it to say "UTC=no"
[01:24] <asynechiea> hello. could someone point me to the xorg.conf file on ubuntu 14.04?
[01:24] <Ben64> asynechiea: doesnt exist by default
[01:25] <asynechiea> if i create one, will it work?
[01:25] <Ben64> yes
[01:25] <nmbvnm> great. now, why didn' t the setup one asked me about this?
[01:26] <asynechiea> all i want to do is enable a single command
[01:26] <teward> nmbvnm, I'm sorry, I don't understand your last question there?
[01:26] <teward> nmbvnm, by default, Ubuntu is configured to assume the hardware clock is set to UTC
[01:26] <asynechiea> Option "TripleBuffer" "True"
[01:26] <dragblax> asynechiea: Siberia
[01:26] <nmbvnm> during setup i was not asked what my sustem clock are set to
[01:27] <teward> nmbvnm, so when the system runs for the first time and uses an internet time server to sync the time, it will get the time then set the system clock to UTC.  I'm not sure why that's a default but it is.
[01:27] <asynechiea> so if i put only that in a text file, it will work? no other text needed?
[01:27] <Ben64> asynechiea: unlikely
[01:27] <asynechiea> dragblax, what are you talking about?
[01:27] <nmbvnm> !ops
[01:28] <dragblax> asynechiea: check out xinerama
[01:28] <kostkon> asynechiea, you'll need to create a custom xorg.conf file. WHat's your graphics card
[01:28] <Ben64> nmbvnm: don't use that for no reason
[01:28] <phunyguy> mm?
[01:28] <asynechiea> Nvidia 780m GTX
[01:29] <kostkon> asynechiea, isn't there such an option to enable  in  the nvidia settings application?
[01:29] <teward> nmbvnm, actually during system setup it asks you for your time zone.  It won't ask what to set the BIOS (system) clock to
[01:30] <kostkon> asynechiea, are you using the nvidia or the mesa driver?
[01:30] <teward> nmbvnm, as i have said, Ubuntu by default is configured to set the system time to UTC (or to make the assumption that it's set to UTC).  THere's no installer option to ask that, because some users might have no idea what that is (especially newbies)
[01:30] <dragblax> asynechiea: didn't one get created installing nvidia
[01:30] <XepoofBNC> this exists, apparently
[01:30] <asynechiea> nvidia driver. The resaon I'm doing this is because I get VSync in any full screen game that doesn't use Vsync
[01:30] <XepoofBNC> Does anyone know why the software updater didn't try to update the openssl package?
[01:31] <asynechiea> sorry, that should say: The resaon I'm doing this is because I get screen tearing in any full screen game that doesn't use Vsync
[01:31] <sajan> waff
[01:31] <dragblax> nmbvnm: on dual boot systems with uefi Windows time zones run amok.
[01:32] <XepoofBNC> Actually, why does apt not upgrade openssl?
[01:33] <Ben64> XepoofBNC: it does
[01:33] <dragblax> asynechiea: Did u instal nvidia proprietary
[01:33] <asynechiea> yes I did
[01:34] <XepoofBNC> I had to use dpkg for it, Ben64 .
[01:34] <kostkon> XepoofBNC, why?
[01:34] <Ben64> XepoofBNC: without any detail, I have no idea what you're talking about
[01:35] <Ben64> XepoofBNC: but it sounds suspiciously like you're doing something terribly wrong
[01:35] <asynechiea> So, for instance, I'm using PCSX-R (PSX emulator). When I use the XVideo driver for it, I can do full screen fine, but it has screen tearing because this video plugin doesn't support Vertical Sync. If I switch to OpenGL Screen tearing is fixed but there is an incompatibility with Unity where Unity appears overlayed over the full screen.
[01:35] <XepoofBNC> apt-get upgrade openssl told me 'it is already the latest version', but, apparently the version of it is 0.9.8
[01:35] <asynechiea> Is there some way I could hide Unity completely? Including the grey bar at the top?
[01:35] <kostkon> asynechiea, open the nvidia settings or whatever is called and click to create a xorg.conf. I think there should be an option to do that. Or check if there are options related to double buffering available
[01:36] <Ben64> XepoofBNC: what version of ubuntu
[01:36] <XepoofBNC> trusty
[01:36] <dragblax> asynechiea: Did u run nvidia-xconfig
[01:37] <dragblax> asynechiea: that will create sort
[01:37] <asynechiea> no, I've not tried that dragblax
[01:37] <dragblax> asynechiea: that will create xorg file
[01:37] <asynechiea> that command doesnt  work
[01:37] <XepoofBNC> 14.04.1 LTS
[01:37] <kostkon> XepoofBNC, you are fine. openssl has been patched against the heartbleed bug and all the subsequent vulnerabilities.
[01:38] <XepoofBNC> 1.0.1f is in the vulnerable range
[01:38] <dragblax> asynechiea: put sudo in front.
[01:38] <kostkon> XepoofBNC, doesn't matter. openssl in ubuntu is secure already. It is patched
[01:38] <Bashing-om> nmbvnm: XepoofBNC :: Ben64 ; Strange ? as sysop@1404mini:~$ ii  openssl        1.0.1f-1ubun amd64 .
[01:39] <Ben64> !info openssl
[01:39] <dragblax> asynechiea: Did u run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:39] <XepoofBNC> I'm not worrying about heartbleed, kostkon. I have a program that requires 1.0.1g or greater
[01:40] <Ben64> then that is up to you, not ubuntu's fault
[01:40] <kostkon> XepoofBNC, right
[01:40] <XepoofBNC> why you no provide updated software, canon?!
[01:40] <XepoofBNC> It's no problem, i'll make it.
[01:41] <asynechiea> k, now is there a command to restart x without logging out?
[01:41] <kostkon> asynechiea, sudo service lightdm restart
[01:41] <kostkon> asynechiea, it might log you out though. but that's the cmd
[01:43] <dragblax> Bush kostkon You bastard.
[01:44] <XepoofBNC> okay openssl is a big tar
[01:46] <valerio> oi
[01:46] <valerio> hi
[01:46] <tharkun> low
[01:47] <XepoofBNC> dragblax, is a madman, ignore him if you are sensitive :P
[01:47] <XepoofBNC> freaking, commas, why, you, happen?
[01:48] <dragblax> XepoofBNC: u
[01:49] <xar_> When I try to copy via Terminal an image to /usr/lib I get it corrupted, what's wrong please ?
[01:49] <tharkun> dragblax: Unasked pm insults is not on /topic. If you have a question just ask.
[01:50] <xar_> When I try to copy via Terminal an image to /usr/lib I get it corrupted, what's wrong please ?
[01:50] <XepoofBNC> u.. that's a nice letter. ascii 117, ↓ when used in conjunction with alt gr.. 9 pixels from head to toe using the Ubuntu font, size 15.
[01:50] <dragblax> tharkun: I agree. If anybody does it. Their wrong
[01:50] <XepoofBNC> You're whaaaaaat.
[01:51] <tharkun> dragblax: Then don't do it again.
[01:51] <Backus> Can I ask a quick question?
[01:52] <dragblax> tharkun: who ever does it should be burned in oil.
[01:52] <xar_> When I try to copy via Terminal an image to /usr/lib I get it corrupted, what's wrong please ?
[01:52] <XepoofBNC> Sure.
[01:52] <tharkun> Backus: Shoot
[01:52] <XepoofBNC> xar_, don't spam. it won't make you get answers
[01:52] <tharkun> dragblax: Agreed
[01:52] <Backus> Where is the pool folder or whatever?
[01:52] <XepoofBNC> are you using sudo? did you try copying it in nautilus?
[01:52] <tharkun> xar_: Paste the command you are using
[01:52] <tharkun> Backus: pool folder, what are you looking for?
[01:53] <xar_> tharkun, sudo cp foo.png /usr/lib/
[01:53] <tharkun> xar_: and why do you think it is currupted?
[01:53] <kurahaupo> I've somewhat belatedly upgraded to 14.04, and now I'm getting «Plugin "Indicator Plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it». Is there some change I can make to fix this, or some other way to fix it? (I don't actually need the whole panel, I actually only use the network status, and that because my wifi is so flakey)
[01:53] <Backus> Sorry, I'm following a tutorial to get wifi working, and it tells me to navigate to pool > restricted > b> bcnwl
[01:53] <XepoofBNC> cat the file, compare the cat output, if you're crazy, that is. :P
[01:53] <xar_> tharkun, when I open it, a message error is displayed. The original image isn't corrupted
[01:54] <tharkun> xar_: and what does the error message says?
[01:55] <xar_> tharkun, it's okay, i've just fixed it. Thank you very much !!
[01:55] <tharkun> lol a permission isue. Right?
[01:55] <xar_> tharkun, no
[01:55] <tharkun> then?
[01:55] <XepoofBNC> root perms are bad
[01:55] <XepoofBNC> very very bad
[01:56] <xar_> i don't know I have tried many times, at the last time it's worked
[01:56] <thisbangs> xar_: I am glad I fixed it for u.
[01:56] <tharkun> xar_: ls -lah /usr/lib/foo.png
[01:56] <xar_> thisbangs, I'm glad seeing you glad
[01:56] <Backus> How do I navigate to pool > restricted > b > bcmwl ?
[01:57] <tharkun> Backus: There is no pool dir maybe spool but then whatever tutorial you are following seems a bit off.
[01:57] <Bashing-om> Backus: Ask, the answer may not be so quick.
[01:58] <Backus> Ok I think I figured out why I'm an idiot anyway. Thank you :)
[01:59] <tharkun> Backus: Tell how, I'm still trying to figure out why I'm also an idiot ;P
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Backus: :) probably not, just a process of learning .
[02:00] <Backus> No it's just that I need to use something from the USB I used to dual boot ubuntu
[02:05] <ryk> hi, my vps provider has given me an ncurses-based ubuntu 10.04 installer
[02:05] <ryk> does anybody know if/how i can drop to a shell from within the installer?
[02:05] <ryk> (sorry don't know much about ubuntu)
[02:06] <ryk> but i couldn't find anything in google re this
[02:08] <Bashing-om> ryk: key combo crl+alt+ F4  ???
[02:09] <ryk> Bashing-om: that just gives me a new X window in my local pc desktop
[02:09] <ryk> actually just a shell
[02:19] <circ-user-FYqcZ> working on dev
[02:20] <gdi2k> hi all, need help. Managed to seriously bungle my server by trying to copy some hidden directories into the directory above with: mv ..* ../old-stuf/
[02:21] <gdi2k> now nothing works - no basic commands exist, like ls, cd etc.
[02:21] <SchrodingersScat> oi
[02:21] <SchrodingersScat> so did that move everything into old-stuf?
[02:21] <gdi2k> no, old-stuff seems to contain just the stuff I wanted to move
[02:22] <gdi2k> got these errors:
[02:22] <gdi2k> mv: cannot move ‘../home’ to ‘../old-stuf/home’: Device or resource busy
[02:22] <gdi2k> mv: cannot move ‘../dev’ to ‘../old-stuf/dev’: Device or resource busy
[02:22] <gdi2k> mv: cannot move ‘../proc’ to ‘../old-stuf/proc’: Device or resource busy
[02:22] <gdi2k> mv: cannot move ‘../run’ to ‘../old-stuf/run’: Device or resource busy
[02:22] <gdi2k> mv: cannot copy a directory, ‘..’, into itself, ‘../old-stuf/’
[02:22] <unopaste> gdi2k you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:22] <teward> !pastebin > gdi2k
[02:23] <gdi2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8155195/
[02:23] <gdi2k> I guess the good news is that /home is still intact - is that a fair assessment?
[02:25] <Agemixer> Question for Ubuntu 12.04: Has there been any updates available for the last 2 weeks?
[02:26] <gdi2k> using tab autocomplete I can see that I am left with the following directories: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8155208/
[02:27] <Farva> hello, when I am monitoring the load on my server, how do I know when its getting to be overbearing for the cpu?
[02:28] <Agemixer> Farva: Tried cli command top?
[02:28] <nmbvnm> ubuntu ui has degraded much since 8.04
[02:28] <gdi2k> Farva, a good rule of thumb is when the load value in top exceeds the number of physical CPU cores you have. So if the load is 3 and you have 4 physical cores, you're ok
[02:28] <Farva> Agemixer:  I am trying to understand how it works really
[02:28] <nmbvnm> you could customize things back there]
[02:28] <Farva> so if the load is .7 and I have 2 cores
[02:28] <Farva> I am fine
[02:29] <Farva> what if I have 2 cores, and only one core is being used by the process that is responsible for that .7?
[02:31] <Bashing-om> gdi2k: UnGood, for comparrison my output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8155242/ .
[02:32] <gdi2k> Bashing-om, yes, I'm left with no commands, but I think home is not lost which is the most critical thing
[02:32] <gdi2k> it's actually a VM so I may be able to mound the disks and grab the data from the VM host
[02:32] <Farva> gdi2k: I am not sure if the last question was clear... I have a main process that only uses one core and my load bearing is avg of .7 that sounds close to maxing out to me what do you think?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> gdi2k: Snapshot to reload ?
[02:33] <gdi2k> Bashing-om, that would be too easy!
[02:33] <gdi2k> Farva, if you have a single threaded application that is maxing out its core, then it will not be running as fast as it wants to
[02:34] <Farva> I am just trying to understand the shifts in numbers actually
[02:34] <Farva> like, we see the process spike up to .7, then we see it drop to .4, its usually around .5
[02:34] <gdi2k> you really need to understand "load" on linux
[02:35] <Farva> yes, I do
[02:35] <Farva> can you point me to a good article or something that does not read like german stereo instructions?
[02:36] <agret> hey guys got a quick question, first time setting up ubuntu server and when i booted it for the first time it had a DHCP address. I punched it into my web browser and the apache page came up (good), didn't try SSH but then I set a static address int he /etc/networks and now I can ping out from the server but I can't connect to it from any hosts on my network. Is there a built in firewall or something?
[02:36] <gdi2k> Farva, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F21617500%2Funderstanding-load-average-vs-cpu-usage&ei=F0T9U9fuPI6cugS_54DQCg&usg=AFQjCNHMnfYP7M6Pzg6ZzSSTDFElAAetUQ&bvm=bv.73612305,d.c2E
[02:36] <Agemixer> Farva: Just checked the top man page, try pressing '1' :)
[02:37] <Farva> kk
[02:37] <Farva> ty guys
[02:38] <wonkles> is 3$ for 2mg clonopin seen as expensive when it comes to street pricings ? ?
[02:38] <wonkles> i couldn't get the donkey lower inprice
[02:38] <wonkles> oops
[02:38] <agret> nevermind im an idiot
[02:38] <wonkles> wrong channel
[02:38] <agret> wrong subnet mask
[02:38] <wonkles> lel
[02:39] <Cow_Phone> ed
[02:42] <Agemixer> There hasn't been updates (by update-manager) for my 12.04 for two weeks now, should i worry?  That became after i noticed an update to 12.04.5 LTS
[02:42] <sydney> So,i have a wifi card in one of my computers. is it possible to use a router as a switcher,and share the internet that the one computer is getting though its wifi,to another computer using an ethernet cable?
[02:46] <Agemixer> sydney: Should be possible, i think
[02:47] <sydney> how though?
[02:49] <teololtoy> Agemixer: You should start the update manager and select the upgrade option there (not upgrade to v14 but the one below)
[02:49] <teololtoy> and wait until it completes.
[02:49] <teololtoy> "your hardware support is ending" is it's name or context.
[02:49] <sydney> is it safe to run a regular ethernet cable between 2 computers directly?
[02:50] <teololtoy> but make sure to wait because it gives sock-all feedback. -- Agemixer..
[02:51] <SchrodingersScat> sydney: are they on the same ground line?
[02:51] <SchrodingersScat> sydney: always follow one hand rule, be safe
[02:51] <Agemixer> teololtoy: It only proposes 14.04.1 ...
[02:52] <sydney> What do you mean?
[02:52] <teololtoy> Agemixer: try the check button and see if anything else shows up after then.
[02:52] <sydney> Oh,and i found a way to make it send it through the ethernet cable :)
[02:52] <SchrodingersScat> sydney: one hand rule keeps you from connecting a circuit and getting electrocuted if the ground in one building is different than another and there would be a charge
[02:52] <sydney> its both on the same outlet...
[02:53] <sydney> Their both on the same power outlet.
[02:53] <Agemixer> teololtoy: Only "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04 'Trusty Tahr'" and some description
[02:54] <sydney> Iwill use the router to play it safe...
[02:55] <teololtoy> Agemixer: wait, I'll try to reconstruct something here.
[02:55] <teololtoy> Agemixer: going to pm
[02:55] <Agemixer> teololtoy: ok
[02:56] <Bashing-om> teololtoy: Upgrade to 12.04.5 -> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty <- .
[02:56] <sajan> anyone can help me with php
[02:57] <sajan> ??
[02:57] <mJayk> #php ?
[02:57] <sajan> i m trying to configure the apache server and its configured
[02:57] <sajan> but when i save the file in sublime it doesnt run in the browser
[02:57] <somsip> !permissions | sajan
[02:57] <sajan> it says error 404 not found
[02:58] <sajan> i did it as per the online tutorial
[02:58] <somsip> sajan: quite possible that the file is not being saved in a way that allows www-data user to read it
[02:59] <teololtoy> Agemixer: hows it going?
[03:00] <sajan> somsip, when i do your command it says event not found in terminal
[03:00] <Agemixer> teololtoy: Well i'm not going to do a upgrade as i'd rather continue with 12.04
[03:01] <somsip> sajan: I haven't told you to do a command. You need to tell us what the permissions are on the file you just created in sublime, and where it is saved. Use "ls -la" and paste the output
[03:01] <somsip> !paste | sajan
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: 12.04.5 HWE ? -> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty . ??
[03:02] <Agemixer> teololtoy: However, it looks like i have 12.04.5 and this one should be continuted until 2017... or have i messed something?
[03:03] <sajan> somsip, http://i.imgur.com/svnjOZo.png
[03:03] <teololtoy> Well then you're all set it seems, Agemixer.
[03:04] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: Understood, but i'm not on Trusty :)
[03:05] <Agemixer> teololtoy: Ok so should i just be patient with updates? :)
[03:05] <somsip> sajan: this does not show the output of ls -la, and you need to logout and back in after adding yourself to www-data group. I'd also recommend chmod g+s -R /var/www so anything created in there has a group of www-data, which is okay to do on a test server
[03:06] <hemangpatel> Hi. I'm installing ubuntu 14.04 LTS in my laptop
[03:06] <hemangpatel> I have 120 GB SSD and 320 GB HDD.
[03:07] <hemangpatel> I need to install ubuntu in SSD. What's the recommanded partition ?
[03:07] <teololtoy> Agemixer: if you're not nagged by lack of forward hardware support, and likewise, you should just accept updates as they come, afaik.
[03:07] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, usual size: /  about 8 gigs    /swap (optional!) /home theremainder
[03:08] <OerHeks> hemangpatel, i would let ubuntu do thepartitioning
[03:08] <sajan> somsip, http://i.imgur.com/Ieht5rM.png
[03:09] <Agemixer> teololtoy: Ok, perhaps that's ok then :) Thanks!
[03:09] <sydney> Ok,im having an issue. i just started having this issue. My speakers wont work unless i have my earphones plugged in to the front jack,then the speakers start working.if i unplug,they stop working :-/
[03:09] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: HWE?
[03:10] <OerHeks> sydney, sounds like a hardware issue
[03:10] <sydney> i just ran some updates. :-/
[03:10] <sydney> too
[03:10] <sydney> maybe a reboot will help?
[03:11] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett : ok. But root partition comes into SSD ? Can i ignore swap partition ? I have 2 GB ram.
[03:11] <hemangpatel> I need fast boot time.
[03:12] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, as I understand it; you'll need swap for suspend.  and assigning 2 - 4 gigs to swap should have no discernible effect on boot time.
[03:12] <cfhowlett> !swap
[03:13] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett : ok but how can i use my SSD in partition while booting system ?
[03:13] <sajan> somsip, http://i.imgur.com/Ieht5rM.png
[03:13] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: That be the (H)ard(W)are (E)nablement (Stack) for 12.04 to utilze the later kernels for the newer hardware . All under trusty's are EOL now.
[03:13] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, you can.  I haven't and I refuse to advise on something I've never touched.  asked again in channel - it's caveman easy or so I'm told.
[03:13] <sydney> Hmm,didnt fix. it also starts automuted?
[03:14] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett : ok no problem :)
[03:14] <hemangpatel> let me google.
[03:15] <Joe_knock> Hello. Can anyone tell me where I can find old .deb packages for software that was upgraded?
[03:15] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: Ok... But what i have read from several sources that 12.04 should be supported until 2017?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !lts | Agemixer,  correct.  5 years of support
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: Yes. That is a fact .. But the HWE kernels less that of trusty are no longer supported. IF you are at 12.04.5, you are set.
[03:20] <Joe_knock> I'm struggling to find the previous version of Chromium before the upgrade to ver36. Does anyone know where I can find .deb packages for it?
[03:20] <Earl2day> hi all, i have two different ubuntu 12 servers with vsftpd 2.3.5, identical vsftpd.confs, one I can connect to and do PASV and its fine, the other it doesnt work. any idea how to troubleshoot? they are both amazon servers and have identical security settings
[03:21] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: What do you exactly mean with "IF you are at 12.04.5, you are set" ?
[03:22] <kurahaupo> Earl2day: define "security settings"; have you checked iptables? external firewalls? network routing?
[03:22] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: Am i in the future now? 8-)
[03:22] <Earl2day> as in amazon security settings that work in lieu of iptables
[03:22] <Earl2day> which ports are open
[03:23] <mellamokb> wow,, i have a problem. apparently my /tmp is resized to 1MB because my disk was full, then i resied it with GParted
[03:23] <mellamokb> and now i'm following instructinos here (http://serverfault.com/questions/470342/why-do-i-get-no-space-left-on-device-when-running-mail), but i can't umount /tmp
[03:23] <mellamokb> what do i do now??
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: The updated version of 12.04 is 12.04.5. lsb_release -a ; see where you are at.
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.10.04.1: amd64 i386 <- http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium&searchon=names&suite=lucid-updates&section=all .
[03:26] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[03:27] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: Great, you are set 'til April 2017 .
[03:27] <mellamokb> it says dbus-daem has a lock on /tmp,, can i kill this process so i can resize /tmp?
[03:27] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: Ok.. thanks :D  For a while i was scared of being outdated
[03:28] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: (despite the fact i'm myself outdated but that's a different story ;)
[03:28] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: Many were in that boat. ( HWE was a pain to get over for many ).
[03:29] <Joe_knock> Bashing-om: That is giving me the latest version only. Chromium seems to have broken video-rendering with the upgrade to version 36 on 12.04
[03:30] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: I can imagine. Thanks for your help!
[03:30]  * jonwommack has had issues with Chrome videos for some time on 14.04
[03:31] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: You asked where you could get an earlier version than 36. Not how the system could install it.
[03:31] <Joe_knock> jonwommack: Are you also not able to play flash/youtube videos at all?
[03:31] <jonwommack> They play but they're choppy and in general horrible
[03:31] <Joe_knock> Bashing-om: I am trying to search for a .deb package and will install it manually.
[03:32] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: Pleased to be of some small help . : D
[03:32] <jonwommack> just a note that it may be an issue with chrome on ubuntu and possibly not ubuntu itself
[03:32] <Joe_knock> jonwommack: It was working fine for me in a previous version and then it died. I downgraded right to version 18, but I am now trying to get back to 35, so my profile works.
[03:33] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: But then again... i haven't received a single package update for 2 weeks. Is that normal behavior at the time?
[03:34] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: The link I gave is from 10.04// version 25 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.10.04.1) and will provide a .deb file. As to how what happens when you try to install it, that is a horse of another color.
[03:34] <Joe_knock> Agemixer: If you dont have PPAs and not much software installed, updates do take a while to come out.
[03:35] <Agemixer> Joe_knock: Ok
[03:35] <Joe_knock> Bashing-om: I tried to install what looked like version 35 from a debian package, but it failed spectacularly. Does anyone know what version of Debian is 12.04 based on?
[03:35] <Bashing-om> Agemixer: 12.04.5 is stable, and I can accept that now after the point release there is not much going on.
[03:36] <Bashing-om> joe, same link shows 12.04 chromium version to also be 36.
[03:37] <Agemixer> Bashing-om: Allright. :)
[03:37] <Joe_knock> Bashing-om: Yeah, that's the latest release. Synaptic shows the previous one to be 18 (a bit too far back IMO).
[03:39] <Joe_knock> yeah, video functionality is completely dead on this version.
[03:40] <hephaestus_rg> hello
[03:41] <hephaestus_rg> if i want to install ubuntu on a part of my SSD labelled "free space" how should i go about that?
[03:41] <hephaestus_rg> would getting ubuntu on a USB drive and installing it that way work as expected?
[03:42] <Joe_knock> hephaestus_rg: Is there anything else on the SSD?
[03:42] <hephaestus_rg> osx
[03:42] <Joe_knock> Is it partitioned?
[03:43] <hephaestus_rg> the SSD itself is 120gb, there's a 80gb partition where osx lives, the rest is unlabled in disk utility, (i assume "free space")
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: IF you install a earlier version of chromium on your system, you are going to be in dependency hell for sure ! DONT. I have seen where folks have got 'pepper' flash to work in chromium.
[03:44] <Joe_knock> Bashing-om: I am installing flash 11.2 now. Let's see if the tarts at Google and the tarts at Adobe provide something that works.
[03:51] <Earl2day> ok i opened all ports in the security group and I still cant go into passive mode
[03:51] <Earl2day> any suggestions?
[03:51] <Earl2day> i checked my other server it actually wasnt running on amazon
[03:51] <Joe_knock> opened all ports???
[03:51] <Earl2day> just for my ip of course
[03:52] <Joe_knock> it must be an AWS restriction.
[03:52] <Earl2day> oh it looks like pasv_enable may work after all, as long as you specify pasv_address too
[03:52] <Earl2day> brb trying
[03:54] <jdavis_> Does anyone know how to disable spamassassin in evolution?
[03:55] <jdavis_> I accidentally unsubscribed one of my imap folders, then when I resubscribed it's taking *forever* to process and it looks like spamassassin is the culprit.
[04:05] <hackersarchangel> Test
[04:05] <hackersarchangel> Hello?
[04:07] <hephaestus_rg> hi
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> Was starting to think I didn’t have +voice privileges xD
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> or something in regards to privileges
[04:17] <Joe_knock> that's a unique username, hackersarchangel
[04:21] <hackersarchangel> Joe_knock: thanks, made it back when MxO was around
[04:21] <hackersarchangel> Had intentions of playing it, but never had a machine that could handle it.
[04:23] <Joe_knock> MxO/
[04:23] <Joe_knock> *MxO?
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> Matrix Online
[04:23] <Joe_knock> oh! I recall that game. PS2 I think?
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> PC
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> It was an MMORPG
[04:25] <Earl2day> SCHWEET
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> ???
[04:25] <nearst> hello
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> hello
[04:26] <Earl2day> opened 12000-12100 and 20-21 in security group then did pasv_enable pasv_max_port and pasv_address in conf and it worked
[04:26]  * hackersarchangel figures if he chills around long enough the ubuntu-touch room will eventually respond.
[04:26] <hackersarchangel> nice dude
[04:26] <nearst> wew
[04:27] <nearst> i got problem with usb wifi
[04:27] <hackersarchangel> Yeah?
[04:27] <hackersarchangel> what card is it?
[04:27] <nearst> New USB device found, idVendor=15a9, idProduct=0013
[04:27] <hackersarchangel> and by card I mean chipset
[04:27] <nearst> New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[04:27] <Earl2day> realtek 8187 >:)
[04:28] <Earl2day> jk
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> actually...
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> RT2800
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> and I remember my Hawking Wireless dish had that.
[04:28] <nearst> yea. already modprobe, but didnt appear, rt2800usb
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> which if I remember right it just worked, but I may have been lucky,
[04:29] <Earl2day> you have a wireless dish and you still got lucky? now theres one for the history books
[04:29] <nearst> not appear in iwconfig, wondering
[04:30] <hackersarchangel> Had, and it was an rt2800 under the hood, so I think that helped. The antenna was just wrapped into a dish enclosure, but it did work decently.
[04:30] <Earl2day> fair enough, i used to do that with a sieve.
[04:31] <hackersarchangel> I bought it that way I should point out, it was from Hawking Wireless and was OSX compatible so that was a nice bonus at the time.
[04:31] <Earl2day> nice
[04:31] <hackersarchangel> In any case, we have derailed this fellow’s need for help!
[04:31] <Earl2day> sorry broseph
[04:31] <Earl2day> not in iwconfig then modprobe failed
[04:32] <Earl2day> tail dmesg
[04:32] <Earl2day> also did you try different usb port
[04:32] <nearst> Earl2day, same also
[04:33] <hackersarchangel> hm.
[04:33] <Joe_knock> do any of you buy Win-free laptops in the area you live?
[04:33] <Earl2day> lsusb
[04:33] <hackersarchangel> I can’t unless I order it from the interwebs
[04:33] <nearst> Earl2day, Bus 002 Device 043: ID 15a9:0013 Gemtek
[04:34] <Earl2day> ok so its definitely not a hw issue
[04:34] <Earl2day> just drivers
[04:34] <Earl2day> compile from src perhaps?
[04:34] <hackersarchangel> wait, blacklisting.
[04:34] <hackersarchangel> I had to blacklist a driver back when I was working with it.
[04:35] <hackersarchangel> I forget which distro I was on exactly, but I think it was Backtrack 5
[04:35] <hackersarchangel> which of course is ancient now but I just remembered that.
[04:35] <Earl2day> is that the gross one which ran ontop of ubuntus GUI
[04:35] <hackersarchangel> no that was the Pen Testing one
[04:36] <Earl2day> all bt are for pentesting lol
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> well yeah
[04:36] <Earl2day> when they made the transition from slackware to ubuntu it was a rough start lets say
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> but when you said gross one
[04:36] <nearst> << not bt fan
[04:36] <Earl2day> there was one in particular that was slow as all hell
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> I wasn’t sure what you meant by “gross” xD
[04:36] <Earl2day> skipped and went to kali
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> fair enough
[04:37] <hackersarchangel> But I remember needing to blacklist the rt2800 driver I think so it would load the USB variant
[04:38] <Psil0Cybin> Earl2day: lol backtrack
[04:38] <Psil0Cybin> i would go with arch
[04:39] <hackersarchangel> I ran Arch for awhile, liked the bleeding edge for apps but found it difficult for my skill level to keep up
[04:40] <hackersarchangel> ave since improved and found I no longer have the patience, so I stick to Debian and similar variants, or I just go Fedora.
[04:40] <hackersarchangel> Current project is getting ubuntu-touch working on my Nexus 5 though
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> Lol See I should get into Fedora as my school sponsors such projects, like pidora etc
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> sadly they do not use debian.
[04:45] <Earl2day> infidels
[04:45] <hackersarchangel> We use it at work for Data recovery because it’s stable.
[04:45] <hackersarchangel> I used Fedora on my MacBook Pro because it worked OOB.
[04:45] <Earl2day> I like CentOS better
[04:45] <hackersarchangel> versus needing Refind/Refit for Debian and some significant modding.
[04:47] <jorge2> will there ever be a ubuntu/bsd?
[04:47] <nearst> kfreebsd ? no ?
[04:48] <jorge2> yea
[04:48] <jasabella> there's a debian that uses the bsd kernel
[04:48] <nearst> cool too. been playing since beta.
[05:01] <Guest44084> help - Im looking to install the 64 bit version of pomodoroapp  - from http://www.teamviz.com/downloads/, how do I run the source file ?
[05:04] <Joe_knock> I don't understand the use-case of linux on Apple products. isnt the strong coupling of HW/SW what makes Apple appealing?
[05:05] <Golgo> i can't install htop?
[05:05] <Joe_knock> Guest44084: If it is a source file (.tar.gz) you need to compile it.
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !ot | Joe_knock,
[05:06] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: Why only now and only me? :'<
[05:06] <k1l> Golgo: please put the output into a pastebin and show us the link
[05:06] <Joe_knock> !compile | Guest44084
[05:07] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, people are actively seeking support - the purpose of this channel.  your discussion would be welcomed in off-topic and wouldn't confuse the support channnel
[05:08] <Joe_knock> cfhowlett: I was following on from someone mentioning they have Fedora on their Macbook...
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Joe_knock, and now we're moving on ...
[05:08] <cfhowlett> *please*
[05:08] <Joe_knock> Selective bias... but yeah, moving on
[05:22] <|Nordom|> I want to update my nvidia 670 gtx drivers with neuveau, can any one point me at the path where I can find them?
[05:28] <RahulAN> hii all i am running ubuntu on beagle bone
[05:28] <RahulAN> i want to listen audio via BT headset
[05:28] <RahulAN> what i need
[05:29] <kaushal> guys ...is there anything like internet download manager for ubuntu?
[05:29] <RahulAN> here you can use wget utility kaushal
[05:29] <RahulAN> or curl
[05:29] <Bashing-om> |Nordom|: nouveau is the open source driver, What driver is installed now ?
[05:30] <kaushal> wget utility??
[05:31] <|Nordom|> Bashing-om: according to system settings >> additional drivers, says I am currently using Nouveau. Is there way to force update this or make sure I am using a compatable version of nouvaeu with my 670 gtx?
[05:31] <eeee> kaushal: flashgot + aria2c + uget
[05:31] <eeee> download them all, uget if you want a gui
[05:31] <kaushal> flareget?
[05:31] <eeee> and time schedular
[05:31] <eeee> flashgot
[05:31] <|Nordom|> Bashing-om: I ask because I have had problems using xen and nvidias drivers + edge in the past
[05:31] <eeee> it's an addon for firefox
[05:32] <kaushal> which is the best and the fastest?
[05:32] <RahulAN> kaushal, wget, you can use over command line
[05:32] <Bashing-om> |Nordom|: Additional drivers utility (software sources) and install the recommended proprietary driver .
[05:32] <eeee> kaushal: flashgot handles the clicks on the websites --> u pick uget or whatever, aria2c works with uget, it can do multiple threads downloading
[05:32] <orlock> Odd problem - i cannot resize any windows
[05:33] <kaushal> wget [url name].....is that it?
[05:33] <RahulAN> yes
[05:33] <orlock> and i cannot type text into my browser search or address tabs
[05:33] <kaushal> thamks
[05:33] <eeee> kaushal: yeah, wget -c <link> to resume a download
[05:33] <|Nordom|> Bashing-om: will the latest version or do I need to go nvidias website and grab it?
[05:34] <kaushal> yes thanks eeee,rahulAN
[05:36] <Bashing-om> |Nordom|: The version from Additioanl drivers will be  a tested stable version, not the latest that Nvidia has released (not completedly tested for all hardware ).
[05:37] <|Nordom|> Bashing-om: thanks
[05:39] <Bashing-om> |Nordom|: Be aware going to Nvidia is often thought of as a last resort. There are ubuntu testing versions that are available via PPA ( not supported here ).
[05:45] <RahulAN> http://codepad.org/36vaTTiR   i am getting this as i am trying to run
[05:45] <RahulAN> mplayer with my BT
[05:46] <OerHeks> RahulAN, what is BT ?
[05:46] <RahulAN> Bluetooth
[05:47] <botnut> anyone know how to make the top title bar on the desktop - larger in height? upgraded my laptop to a resolution 3200x1800 - and its a tad too small for my liking - i did increase the font size but want the title bar and window headers taller
[05:48] <eeee> botnut: settings > display > scale for menu & titlebars
[05:49] <botnut> eeee: doesnt play well when i do that - makes everything really big - even non menu / title bars
[05:52] <botnut> eeee: any ideas?
[05:53] <Ben64> botnut: could probably do that with ubuntu-tweak or a theme or something along those lines
[05:54] <botnut> ben64: thanks this thing is nutty
[05:54] <botnut> 3200x1800 in ubuntu on a laptop gets quirky with the scaling just like windows 8.1 does
[05:54] <botnut> heard the apple retina also has the same issue - blah
[05:57] <user123321> In the ubuntu docs, it says "one may install a supported version of Java (7 or 8) via Oracle's website, or via the WebUpd8 PPA. ", but I couldn't see ubuntu or debian specific installation file but linux versions.
[05:57] <user123321> in oracle's website
[05:58] <Ben64> ubuntu is linux, but you're on your own if you want to go that route
[05:58] <user123321> I downloaded "jre-7u67-linux-x64.tar.gz".
[05:58] <user123321> seems I need to convert it?
[05:59] <Ben64> no, but you're on your own with that
[05:59] <Ben64> i'd recommend using the java that comes from the repositories instead
[06:00] <user123321> I see
[06:00] <OerHeks> if you really need that java, not openJDK, better use the ppa, that one gives you .deb packages AND updates
[06:01] <user123321> OerHeks, "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA", the word "untrusted" is what scared me :p
[06:02] <OerHeks> well, java is closed source, nothing we can do about issues, nor ppa issues, nor we know it is safe.
[06:04] <user123321> Aha
[06:04] <OerHeks> user123321, but it is oke to use the ppa, the apt-add routine includes fetching keys
[06:04] <user123321> cool
[06:10] <waressearcher2> I have 23 processes "[lynx] <defunct>" and they consume 30% of my RAM its 300MB, how to remove them ? they seem like zombie and I tryed to use "kill -s SIGCHILD parentID" but it doesn't work, how to solve it without rebooting ?
[06:14] <RahulAN> I am getting this error FATAL: Module snd_bt_sco not found.  any idea about this?
[06:16] <Guest26898> Howdy! guys i need help.Anyone can help me now ?
[06:17] <somsip> !ask | Guest26898
[06:21] <fits> My setup is dual boot windows 7 & ubuntu 14.04.If i want to remove my windows 7,is it possible just by reinstalling my ubuntu from my bootable usb?
[06:22] <fits> will it also remove the partition i created ?
[06:25] <fits> I know there is a lot of tutorial online on how to to this,but i just want to know if its possbile to get rid of windows 7 on a dual boot setup,just by reinstalliing my ubuntu.
[06:25] <marjinal1st> Is there a way to check if there's paper available in printer, with cups cli?
[06:28] <OerHeks> fits, sure, select "use whole disc", it will delete all partitions and build a fresh mbr
[06:30] <waressearcher2> fits: why don't you just boot in ubuntu and do "mke2fs /dev/windows_partition" ?
[06:34] <fits> I hate windows 7 now,since i start using ubuntu.i am not a gamer so dont need windows 7 anymore
[06:35] <jackbrown> anybody is english mothertongue ?
[06:35] <ObrienDave> this is an english only channel
[06:36] <Abhijit> jackbrown, may be in #ubunut-uk
[06:36] <Abhijit> jackbrown, may be in #ubuntu-uk
[06:37] <OerHeks> marjinal1st, maybe the status command shows no paper > lpstat -p
[06:37] <jackbrown> Abhijit: tnx
[06:38] <marjinal1st> OerHeks: No, it just shows the printer is idle or not
[06:38] <OerHeks> marjinal1st, oke, i cannot find a command to see " media-empty " or not
[06:41] <helmut> hi
[06:41] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[06:50] <waterloo2005> Can bumblebee be used in 14.04 amd64 ? I try this, but find 'optirun glxgear' is very low only about 60.
[06:50] <waterloo2005> http://askubuntu.com/questions/514704/bumblebee-on-ubuntu-14-04-amd64-does-not-work
[06:54] <OerHeks> waterloo2005, most monitors don't go over 60 fps, if you want full force, disable sync to vblank in nvidiasettings
[06:55] <OerHeks> on my machine ( no bumblebee, just nvidia) 301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.091 FPS  <> 28529 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5705.653 FPS
[06:55] <ObrienDave> and since your eye cant see faster than 30 FPS, refreshing above that is moot
[06:56] <OerHeks> true
[06:56] <waressearcher2> eye can't notice more than 24fps
[06:57] <ObrienDave> true, but at 24 FPS, movies give me a headache
[06:57] <waterloo2005> OerHeks, The value of 'optirun glxgears' under ubuntu 12.04.5 is above 1000 for GT550M .  Where is the config file of nvidiasettings ? Thx
[06:58] <ObrienDave> what's the point of 1000FPS???
[06:58] <OerHeks> just use the tool nvidia xserver settings in you gui
[06:58] <ObrienDave> oh, i know, "because it can" LOL
[07:04] <LeelooOnline>  has ubuntu tablet device been released yet?
[07:04] <waterloo2005> OerHeks, you mean ' optirun nvidia-settings ' ? I run  'optirun nvidia-settings' and find nothing about vblank sync .
[07:04] <fits> not yet i think
[07:05] <fits> i wonder if its possible to install ubuntu on a cheap quad core smartphone ?
[07:06] <LeelooOnline> I heard a chinsese company is going to sell a smartphone pre-installed ubuntu..so it is possible i guess?
[07:07] <ikonia> fits: it will depend on the architecture of the phone and how you expect to install it
[07:09] <LeelooOnline> ah..I need a small tablet for my class....I dont want to carry my giant laptop to everywhere.......
[07:09] <LeelooOnline> :-C
[07:13] <Lewoco> Does Ubuntu ever upgrade software for a specific release?
[07:13] <fits> china is building their own operating system nowadays
[07:14] <k1l> !touch | LeelooOnline
[07:15] <k1l> Lewoco: for some packages like browsers and kernels: yes. others only get patched for security or bugfix reasons but dont increase the version number
[07:15] <Lewoco> k1l, Wierd. Why do they do it differently for browsers and kernels?
[07:16] <LeelooOnline> it is Chinese  goverment is building their own system....and they woulnt success
[07:17] <k1l> its too much effort to patch the browsers since they upgrade a lot in very short time. kernels get upgrades in lts releases from the backport kernels for hardware support reasons.
[07:17] <k1l> LeelooOnline: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. this channel is for specific support questions
[07:18] <LeelooOnline> ...sorry..
[07:18] <Lewoco> k1l, No I mean why do they try to upgrade the browsers at all, given that they don't try to update most other software?
[07:18] <k1l> Lewoco: its security reasons.
[07:18] <waressearcher2> its programmers who work for Chinese  goverment is building goverment's system
[07:18] <LeelooOnline> You are using lts?
[07:18] <waressearcher2> s/You are/are You/
[07:19] <LeelooOnline> and it is called  Ubuntu-kylin
[07:20] <waressearcher2> Ubuntu-chan ?
[07:31] <frib> is there a way i can run a script on resume from hibernation?
[07:32] <Wizard> frib: Sure.
[07:32] <Wizard> frib: /etc/sleep.d/
[07:32] <Wizard> Or something like that.
[07:32] <frib> that dir doesn't exist
[07:33] <frib> ok it's /etc/pm/sleep.d found it thx!
[07:36] <ajay2> Hello
[07:36] <ajay2> Needed a help...
[07:37] <ajay2> how can I install g77 in ubuntu 14.04?
[07:37] <ajay2> all the repositories that I checked are old
[07:37] <ajay2> any help?
[07:37] <Wizard> ajay2: Old? Ubuntu has prety decent gcc.
[07:38] <Ben64> ajay2: explain yourself
[07:38] <teololtoy> ajay2, mine is 4.6.3
[07:42] <geirha> «gfortran has replaced the g77 compiler, which stopped development before GCC version 4.0» -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gfortran
[07:42] <ajay2> mine is 4.8.2
[07:42] <geirha> That's probably why you're only finding "old" versions of g77
[07:43] <ajay2> but when I try sudo apt-get install g77, then I get an error
[07:43] <geirha> there is no g77 package
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> im having issues connecting google and hotmail, all other sites connect normally..what could cause this?
[07:44] <ajay2> Well.... I need to install octave in my system and it needs fotron compilers
[07:44] <ajay2> I installed fotr77 successfully, but I need this g77
[07:46] <geirha> ajay2: g77 doesn't exist anymore, it's been replaced by gfortran
[07:46] <ajay2> cool... then I'll install gfortran\
[07:48] <Wizard> ajay2: Wait, installing octave.. From repo?
[07:49] <ajay2> No... I downloaded octave from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/octave
[07:49] <Wizard> Install from repo, man..
[07:50] <ajay2> then I did ./configure
[07:50] <ajay2> and it asked for fortron compilers
[07:50] <ajay2> Okay
[07:50] <ajay2> will dependencies get satisfied if I install from repo?
[07:51] <geirha> ajay2: yes, that's the whole point of having a package management system in the first place
[07:51] <tac> Is there a usual way to change owner, group, and permissions after rsynching some files?
[07:51] <ajay2> Okay... thank you, guys
[07:51] <geirha> tac: you want the files to have a different ownership than the originial files?
[07:52] <tac> yeah. It's basically a server program I wrote
[07:52] <tac> I want to create a simple deployment script to copy the executable to another box, then change it to be owned by the user responsible for executing it
[07:53] <geirha> well, you could do the rsync as that user
[07:54] <tac> hmm
[07:54] <|Marco|> hmm?
[07:54] <|Marco|> :D
[07:54] <ajay2> there is one more issue
[07:55] <ajay2> I want to install open-vibe and adastra
[07:55] <ajay2> but adastra is written in c# and mono IDE can deal with it... but it has no linux deb file
[07:56] <ajay2> and open-vibe is having lot of dependency issues
[07:56] <Wizard> ajay2: Have you added any PPAs?
[07:57] <ajay2> As far as I remember, No
[07:57] <Wizard> Btw, "ad astra" is a cool name. Latin for "to stars"
[07:57] <Wizard> ;D
[07:57] <Wizard> None of these packages exist in repo.
[07:58] <ajay2> yeah.... cool name :D highly helpful software to measure brain waves ;)
[07:58] <ajay2> I was exploring and I came across neuro debian PPA
[07:59] <ajay2> I installed that ppa in my system
[08:07] <Wizard> YamakasY: I think yes.
[08:09] <|Marco|> wow, was there just a netsplit or something ?
[08:10] <|Marco|> oh, forget it... alot of people in here to begin with :D
[08:10] <Vladimir> I set up rancid but it fails to run rancid-run, gives me timeout reached
[08:11] <Vladimir> I set up rancid but it fails to run rancid-run, gives me timeout reached error in the logs, I can login the HP switch with clogin, so there's no problem :/
[08:14] <manikanta> hi
[08:14] <manikanta> anyone there?
[08:14] <fidel_> manikanta: just ask
[08:14] <ajay2> where will be files stored after downloading it from git?
[08:14] <fidel_> there is always someone
[08:15] <ajay2> I tried git clone git://scm.gforge.inria.fr/openvibe/openvibe.git
[08:15] <Vladimir> Can anyone help me with Rancid ?
[08:15] <ajay2> and where is that file?
[08:15] <manikanta> Okay..I'm trying to install boost..getting this error
[08:15] <manikanta> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[08:15] <manikanta> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[08:15] <manikanta> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[08:15] <manikanta> or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:15] <manikanta> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[08:15] <unopaste> manikanta you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:16] <ajay2> ?
[08:16] <|Marco|> ajay2:
[08:16] <fidel_> ajay2: most likely at the location where you executed the cmd
[08:16] <manikanta> * unopaste sets mode -q #ubuntu manikanta!*@*
[08:16] <|Marco|> it's probably in a folder called trunk/openvibe or something from where you ran the command
[08:16] <Abhijit_> ajay2, type pwd and it will hive you current location. thats where you git is
[08:16] <ajay2> Oh okay... I ran that cmd as root
[08:17] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157245/
[08:17] <ajay2> so it'll be in file system?
[08:17] <|Marco|> ah, there you go :D
[08:17] <manikanta> Getting that error while installing boost libraries
[08:17] <manikanta> what to do?
[08:17] <ajay2> ?
[08:17] <ajay2> it'll be in file system?
[08:17] <SuperStink> sup
[08:18] <ajay2> Cool, got it
[08:18] <ajay2> :) :D
[08:18] <Abhijit_> ajay2, without any filesystem the hard disk == rock. you need a file system so that you can store data. so obviously it will be there only.
[08:18] <|Marco|> ajay2: were you root when you ran git ?
[08:18] <ajay2> yeah, marco
[08:18] <|Marco|> or did you run it with sudo
[08:18] <|Marco|> ?
[08:18] <ajay2> ran as root
[08:18] <|Marco|> then you'll find it in /root
[08:18] <ajay2> I got it
[08:18] <ajay2> thank you
[08:19] <|Marco|> no stress :P
[08:19] <ajay2> I explored all folders except that /root folder :P
[08:19] <manikanta> Hey
[08:19] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157245/
[08:19] <|Marco|> y0
[08:19] <|Marco|> trying to install ogre ?
[08:19] <manikanta> How to solve that /
[08:19] <manikanta> Trying to install boost
[08:20] <|Marco|> ugh, I got the same problem trying to install ogre
[08:20] <manikanta> sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[08:21] <manikanta> So yeah
[08:21] <manikanta> what to do?
[08:21] <ajay2> managed to make ubuntu unstall naive (native) packages for open-vibe ;)
[08:23] <MrJones> hi
[08:23] <MrJones> I reported CVE-2014-5461 to red hat and debian and got a response in a few hours
[08:23] <MrJones> security@ubuntu.com (according to the web the official email address for security issues) hasn't responded since saturday
[08:24] <manikanta> And also while doing update, I'm struck at this ..
[08:24] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8157300/
[08:28] <ajay2> manikanta: can you tell me the command used?
[08:28] <manikanta> for sudo apt-get update
[08:32] <frib> i just successfully hibernated 2 times in a row but now, after reboot, for some reason sudo pm-hibernate does nothing .. what can I do?
[08:42] <frib> i found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981271&page=3 which i'm pretty sure offers a solution to my hibernate problem but i don't entirely understand it
[08:43] <frib> does swapoff /dev/zram0 && umount /dev/zram0 disable the ramdisk?
[08:44] <vitimiti> Hi
[08:45] <waressearcher2> frib: can't you just use "swapoff -a" ?
[08:45] <frib> waressearcher2, well i don't know what that does
[08:46] <frib> waressearcher2, i also don't understand exactly what it is this guy did to get pm-hibernate to not do nothing anymore
[08:46] <waressearcher2> frib: disables swapping
[08:46] <frib> first he said update-initramfs -u made pm-hibernate work
[08:46] <frib> then something about turning ramdisk on and off
[08:47] <frib> i just don't want to break anything as this hibernate thing seems to be really temperamental
[08:48] <frib> ok i think i need to disable the ramdisk but i don't know what that is
[08:49] <geirha> I fail to see the point of having swap on a ramdisk
[08:50] <frib> i dont know, he did that
[08:50] <frib> i don't think i'm using a ramdisk
[08:50] <frib> i just want pm-hibernate to work
[08:51] <AlexPortable> What are -t and -o for in the mount command?
[08:51] <frib> does swap need to be on or off to do that?
[08:51] <frib> -t is type and -o is options
[08:51] <frib> man mount
[08:52] <waressearcher2> AlexPortable: mount -t ext2 -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:52] <AlexPortable> ok thanks
[08:52] <AlexPortable> is there any way i can see fast what argumentsdo?
[08:52] <AlexPortable> without reading manual first
[08:53] <frib> anyone know what to do about this message?
[08:54] <frib> nevermind it was already on
[08:58] <geirha> AlexPortable: you search for them in the manual
[08:58] <frib> why would pm-hibernate work last boot but not this boot?
[08:59] <AlexPortable> geirha: no automatic searching?
[09:00] <hackal> Hello sorry for noob question. "sudo chown -R username:group directory" will change ownership but how do I know in what group I am?
[09:00] <geirha> man mount  then  /-t  then hit n until you find the right match
[09:00] <waressearcher2> hackal: groups
[09:02] <hackal> waressearcher2: and when I am trying to change ownership from root to my username should I use some group in which I am and root not?
[09:06] <waressearcher2> hackal: if you don't use "group" for chown command it will stay as it was, so you full "name:group" to change them both
[09:13] <geirha> hackal: As a special case, you can do chown username: file  in which case it will change the group ownership to the user's primary group
[09:15] <hackal> geirha: I have user adam and first group was also adam so I did adam:adam
[09:15] <hackal> geirha: I was changing ownership of /var/www
[09:15] <Atlantic777> Is there any known recent problems with flashplugin? I have two clients where it suddenly stopped working. On one computer there was release upgrade to 14.04 and it's ok to be broken after that, but flashplugin-installer is installed, multiverse repo seems to be enabled and everything looks fine.
[09:15] <Atlantic777> Another computer is still on 12.04, I'm not sure if auto update is enabled there but yesterday it stopped working there too.
[09:16] <Atlantic777> I don't have physical access to those machines so I want first to check if there are some known problems.
[09:16] <frib> i'm not using a ramdisk to hibernate (i don't think) but i think this thread could solve my problem if i knew how to apply it to my system .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981271&page=3
[09:16] <frib> does anyone understand the script? thanks
[09:17] <SuperStink> whats the process to burn an iso to usb?
[09:17] <frib> SuperStink, apt-get install unetbootin
[09:17] <Atlantic777> SuperStink: you probably want to use unetbootin or some similar software. In newer releases you can even use simple dd.
[09:18] <cynicallemon> SuperStink: use can use the dd command
[09:18] <SuperStink> is that free?
[09:19] <frib> SuperStink, it's built in to linux
[09:19] <cynicallemon> yep
[09:19] <drewjo> I'm downloading Ubuntu :)
[09:19] <drewjo> !checksum
[09:22] <cynicallemon> SuperStink: if you use windows, you can burn the iso to a usb using win32diskimager utility
[09:23] <newbster> Hello
[09:23] <newbster> Question about two Ubuntu LTS'
[09:24] <newbster> What are the advantages of 14.04 lts compared to 12.04lts?
[09:24] <junka1> how can i switch user accounts from the command line
[09:24] <junka1> newbster: google them
[09:24] <network-monkey> Is there a terminal command to change the system-wide proxy settings in Ubuntu ? (I'm trying to write a bash script to update the system-wide proxy server address)
[09:25] <frib> does anyone know what this message means? init: anacron main process (3387) killed by TERM signal
[09:25] <Atlantic777> junka1: only in terminal or to login in X session as another user?
[09:25] <Atlantic777> junka1: you can use "sudo su" to change user for current terminal.
[09:25] <Atlantic777> junka1: "sudo su <username>"
[09:25] <newbster> anyone? 14.04LTS vs 12.04LTS. I've seen the wiki pages, but was wondering if someone can give me a simple explanation of the main advantages/disadvantages.
[09:26] <junka1> Atlantic777: i am in guest session i switched to my home account but when i tried to go back to my guest session it opened a new one
[09:26] <junka1> Atlantic777: i tried su guest but it did not work
[09:26] <Atlantic777> junka1: oh, I'm not sure how guest sessions are working. Sorry...
[09:28] <newbster> is 12.04 a lot more stable since it's already been out for a while? I understand 12.04 is supported until 2017, but would it have the same "focus" as far as updates/support as 14.04?
[09:28] <network-monkey> newbster: use alt+ctrl+f2 -> sign in in one account in current tty, to use another tty for another account, use alt+ctrl+f2. Same combinations to switch ttys.
[09:29] <network-monkey> ^ alt-ctrl-f2 and alt-ctrl-f3
[09:29] <junka1> network-monkey: i assume you are talking to me
[09:29] <qsl> network-monkey: I think he's talking about switching gui logins, not terminal sessions.
[09:29] <network-monkey> Is there a terminal command to change the system-wide proxy settings in Ubuntu ? (I'm trying to write a bash script to update the system-wide proxy server address)
[09:30] <ajay3> Hello, I'm back :D
[09:31] <ajay3> can anybody tell me that how can adastra be installed in ubuntu?
[09:31] <ajay3> I don't see any deb package for that
[09:31] <frib> what would happen if i did echo "disk" > /sys/power/state ?
[09:31] <newbster> is 12.04 a lot more stable since it's already been out for a while? I understand 12.04 is supported until 2017, but would it have the same "focus" as far as updates/support as 14.04?
[09:33] <newbster> I don't quiet understand how the ubuntu team works, hence I ask is 12.04 a lot more stable since it's already been out for a while? I understand 12.04 is supported until 2017, but would it have the same "focus" as far as updates/support as 14.04?
[09:33] <Atlantic777> newbster: as with any other LTS release, it has newer software base. For most packages you'll get only updates for installed versions of software, like bugfixes or security patches. Now and then you'll get newer version for some packages (i.e. firefox, kernel...)
[09:33] <newbster> thank you Atlantic777
[09:34] <Atlantic777> there are also backport repos for getting packages (versions of software) from newer release into an older. So there's always a workaround. I wouldn't say that 12.04 is so much more stable than 14.04.
[09:35] <Atlantic777> If you're installed fresh system, I would recommend to go for 14.04. It's simply more reasonable.
[09:35] <Atlantic777> If you are thinking about doing upgrade on a system which is already set up, working and everything is in place... You are ok with staying on 12.04.
[09:35] <newbster> Atlantic777. Okay. I guess I'm just a little "turned-off" by the bugs and errors I encounter with 14.04
[09:36] <ajay3> anybody here?
[09:36] <ajay3> how to install adastra in ubuntu?
[09:36] <Atlantic777> newbster: just file a bug report on launchpad and wait for few days to be fixed. :)
[09:37] <geirha> hackal: in that case, adam: would be a shortcut for adam:adam  either is fine
[09:37] <Atlantic777> newbster: many like to install LTS versions after some time, when things settle down a bit. There are 12.04.4, or 14.04.1 and versions like that.
[09:38] <newbster> Atlantic777:  I see. So going with the latest and greatest like 14.04 is like buying a brand new car that hasn't had much reviews from users, as opposed to a newer used car (12.04) ?
[09:39] <newbster> I'm new to all this (hence the nickname), which is why I'm seeking advice from here.
[09:39] <qsl> Except unlike a car, an OS doesn't wear out.
[09:39] <Atlantic777> and it can be fixed
[09:39] <qsl> Cheaply usually.
[09:40] <hackal> geirha: does it matter what user owns /var/www? Or under same user must run apache2?
[09:40] <newbster> Cool, but I used car as a metaphor for me to understand the idea behind it
[09:40] <Atlantic777> newbster: for new installation -> 14.04. If you have working 12.04 system, you don't need to upgrade to 14.04 for some time unless you have a good reason and you have to.
[09:41] <Atlantic777> the car metaphor doesn't really explaining it because a bad car is staying bad forever, and new ubuntu release will quickly become stable and reasonably bugfree.
[09:41] <RowBot> hello world!
[09:41] <Atlantic777> it's just a matter of time
[09:42] <iptable> hackal, apache2 user (www-data) needs read access to the files in that dir, and read+execute for dirs.
[09:42] <newbster> Atlantic777, I've actually installed 12.04 to start with, then reformatted hdd to install 14.04. I am tempted to go back to 12.04 however, because my experience hasn't been smooth with 14.04, and since I'm quiet new, I don't "tinker" around with the OS much
[09:43] <iptable> hackal, it is advisable that www-data does NOT own files or dirs in /var/ww and that it has no write access unless required (like /var/www/upload if you have some upload functionality, etc)
[09:43] <newbster> but I'll take your advice on going with the newer, since in a matter of time - things will be bug free
[09:43] <Atlantic777> newbster: then I recommend you to continue using 14.04 if it's somehow usable, tell us about problems you have and help us make it work for you and everyone else.
[09:43] <ajay3> there?
[09:44] <hackal> iptable: I changed the user for apache2 to run under adam and leaved default group www-data. /var/www directories are under user adam with group adam.
[09:44] <ajay3> how to install adastra in ubuntu?
[09:44] <ajay3> I don't want to use wine or playonlinux
[09:45] <iptable> ajay3, adastra what? there are a lot of apps known as adastra
[09:45] <frib> i managed to hibernate using echo disk > /sys/power/state but it doesn't work if i simply prepend "sudo" to the command, i have to use "sudo su" first and then execute the command, which i can't make work in a script .. how can I? thanks
[09:45] <ajay3> I mean this: https://code.google.com/p/adastra/
[09:45] <newbster> Seems like everytime I update (today is the most recent), either errors will show up, or won't boot properly. i.e. I had to select the advanced menu at boot and had to select the generic, because after the most recent update, my dash and what not won't show, only desktop wallpaper.
[09:46] <ioiooiioio_> hello
[09:46] <iptable> hackal, as stated, apache2 user should not have write access to files and dirs under /var/www. only read. otherwise you are exposing yourself to possible attacks.
[09:47] <newbster> anyone know how the Ubuntu team works - as far as who and how many gets delegated to certain projects?
[09:47] <iptable> ajay3, adastra is an application written for windows, not linux. you can either 1. run it in windows, 2. run it in wine/playonlinux, or 3. learn to code and make it work on linux.
[09:47] <newbster> i.e. 12.04 group 1 and 2 = total of 10 people, 14.04 all
[09:48] <iptable> ajay3, there is no "install it so that it will natively start woking on ubuntu magically" way I'm afraid.
[09:48] <ajay3> yeah, I installed it successfully in wine
[09:49] <YamakasY> can anyone help me out by applying a patch to a package and rebuild it ? I cannot see the sourcefile I need for my patch
[09:49] <iptable> ajay3, and that's how you will have to use it
[09:49] <ajay3> Okay, iptable
[09:50] <ajay3> See... I've emotiv SDK and open-vibe, adastra and octave are dependencies for emotiv SDk
[09:50] <ajay3> I installed open-vibe and octave in ubuntu and adastra in wine
[09:50] <ajay3> will emotiv SDK recognize all these dependencies?
[09:51] <ajay3> P.S: Emotiv SDK is installed in wine
[09:51] <newbster> any experts out there on security?
[09:52] <hgth> Do you recognize any errors in this /etc/crontab line? 55 15 * * 1-5   www-data        /usr/local/bin/dradio detektor 190 The stream recording (script does that) isn’t showing up. If I run the command manually (sudo -u www-data /usr/local/bin/dradio detektor 190), it works.
[09:52] <newbster> no security experts here?
[09:52] <qsl> newbster it's usually more productive to just ask your question
[09:52] <newbster> okay
[09:53] <qsl> someone might know the answer but not be and expert.
[09:53] <frib> for a certain file, sudo doesn't seem to give me privileges I have to run sudo su and then the command to edit the file .. how can I avoid this thanks?
[09:53] <qsl> an
[09:53] <newbster> There's this new article from Linux Journal regarding Linux security threats, and it's concerning me a bit. http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-security-threats-rise
[09:53] <qsl> frib what error message do you get?
[09:53] <frib> qsl, just permission denied
[09:54] <geirha> frib: that's because redirection happens before the command (sudo echo) is run
[09:54] <frib> geirha, not following you :\
[09:54] <geirha> either enclose the command with redirection in a shell run with sudo, or use tee.
[09:54] <iptable> frib, what command did you execute?
[09:54] <frib> sudo echo disk > /sys/power/state
[09:54] <geirha> sudo sh -c 'echo foo > file'  or   echo foo | sudo tee file
[09:55] <iptable> frib, you executed echo as sudo, wile the redirect is in normal user
[09:55] <frib> ohh by redirect you mean |
[09:55] <frib> or > rather
[09:55] <fidel_> newbster: yeah and this article is far away from telling anything new in terms of security
[09:55] <geirha> yes, with your   sudo echo disk > /sys/power/state  it first opens the /sys/power/state file for writing, THEN it runs sudo echo disk
[09:56] <fidel_> in case you have a question - ask it - otherwise dont expect a reply ;)
[09:56] <frib> geirha, awesome thanks
[09:56] <iptable> frib, no, see geirha response to you just above mine
[09:56] <frib> geirha, just to be safe, there is no disadvantage to hibernating this way as opposed to using pm-hibernate, right?
[09:56] <newbster> fidel:  So you're saying that the security threats have always been on the rise?
[09:57] <ajay3> ?
[09:57] <cynicallemon> newbster: a lot of exploits rely on unpatched software, keep your machine updated and thats a big worry off you shoulders
[09:57] <iptable> ajay3, the answer is we don't know. we don't use this software. try it. if it doesn't work (and probably wont), you will have to have all those in the same wine container.
[09:57] <fidel_> dont get me wrong - but this article is blabla - mentioning general known things and adding a catchy headline
[09:58] <geirha> frib: That I do not know
[09:58] <newbster> cynicallemon:  okay. good enough
[09:58] <ajay3> Let me be more clear...
[09:58] <qsl> It's called page fill
[09:58] <franco> ciao
[09:58] <iptable> ajay3, being more clear won't help. We do not use adastra and do not know if it will figure out that you have vibe and octave outside of wine.
[09:59] <ajay3> there are 4 software which are inter-dependent on each other.... Open-vibe, adastra, octave, emotive SDK are those 4 software
[09:59] <newbster> btw, a tech guy from a tech shop adviced me that someone who isn't all that "tech savvy" (like myself) would be generally more vulnerable in Linux. He adviced that Windows is more for people who want the plug-n-play experience. Is there truth to this?
[09:59] <ajay3> adastra and emotiv SDK are installed in wine and other 2 in ubuntu
[09:59] <ajay3> will emotive SDK recognize other 3 software?
[10:00] <iptable> newbster, no, that was a lie because the shopkeeper never used linux, doesn't know it, and is tech-scared
[10:00] <cfhowlett> newbster, no.
[10:00] <qsl> Is this discussion related to ubuntu support?
[10:00] <ajay3> newbster: No.... windows is more vunlerable
[10:00] <fidel_> as long as you dont pretend to work as root  & disable services you dont know - you should be fine with common linux distris ;)
[10:00] <cfhowlett> qsl, this is ubuntu support.  ask your qeustgions
[10:00] <iptable> newbster, try ubuntu desktop, or if you are totally new, linux mint is a viable alternative, as it feels closer to windows, but is still ubuntu under the hood (different UI).
[10:00] <cfhowlett> questions
[10:01] <qsl> I know but that thread isn't a bit about ubuntu.
[10:01] <iptable> ajay3, as already stated, no idea. try it. no one currently present here uses adastra. most likely it won't recognize it
[10:01] <iptable> qsl, which one?
[10:01] <qsl> new bster's questions
[10:01] <qsl> and the replys.
[10:02] <cynicallemon> newbster: linux is more secure and also gives users a "plug n play" experience
[10:02] <newbster> It's scaring me because all I know is how to click install on an anti-virus, firewall, and anti-malware. And I asked here because it is related to me using Ubuntu
[10:02] <iptable> qsl, why is that not related to ubuntu and support I do not know. It's a new user question who is looking for some answers.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> newbster, facts > FUD
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !firewall | newbster,
[10:02] <iptable> newbster, ubuntu does not need antivirus and antimalware. so less clicking ;)
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !antivirus | newbster
[10:02] <frib> geirha, thanks anyway
[10:03] <frib> anyone know of a way to run a script on resume from hibernate that uses echo disk > /sys/power/state
[10:03] <iptable> newbster, and all software can be installed form software centre, like on android on iPhone, making it safer not to download other stuff accidentally.
[10:03] <Guest57214> anyone tried to make a custom ubuntu cd with just updated software? I got ton of errors once I run "apt-get upgrade"  :/
[10:03] <newbster> alright.
[10:03] <cynicallemon> what i dont like about ubuntu (and other distos) is the default permissions on home directoies
[10:03] <newbster> thank you everyone. especially about the firewall
[10:03] <YamakasY> ok, I downloaded the branche and now I need to generate the deb
[10:03] <newbster> and the links
[10:03] <qsl> iptable there is a general discussion channel for ubuntu.  This is supposed to be for questions about ubuntu not the pros and cons of windows vs linux, etc.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> newbster, happy to help + suggestions ...
[10:04] <cfhowlett> newbster, www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[10:04] <qsl> But I'm obviously in the minority here today.
[10:04] <bazhang> !manual | newbster
[10:04] <bazhang> !rute | and this too newbster
[10:04] <iptable> qsl, and yet we are so helpful that we give suggestions and our remarks on the subject. Is that so bad? no one is arguing here and we are all in unison
[10:04] <kaushal> hello..i have a problem with my filesystem.I cant open it..any solutions?
[10:04] <cfhowlett> bazhang, yep, that was my next thought
[10:04] <newbster> btw, I wasn't trying to start a windows vs. linux. I was just trying to get some information on how to get started with ubuntu
[10:04] <cfhowlett> kaushal, details
[10:04] <iptable> kaushal, hello again.
[10:05] <bazhang> kaushal, more info please
[10:05] <kaushal> Error mounting /dev/sda7 at /media/kaushal/Natsu: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda7" "/media/kaushal/Natsu"' exited with non-zero exit status 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[10:05] <iptable> kaushal, that fat32 system?
[10:05] <kaushal> Failed to mount '/dev/sda7': Input/output error
[10:05] <kaushal> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[10:05] <kaushal> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[10:05] <kaushal> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[10:05] <kaushal> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
[10:05] <unopaste> kaushal you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:05] <qsl> iptable But it's not the forum for those questions.
[10:05] <iptable> kaushal, ok, so you moved to ntfs, let me ask you a question, DID you unmount and sync before unplugging the USB drive?
[10:05] <newbster> qsl, so what questions are expected here then?
[10:05] <iptable> kaushal, looks like you are corrupting all your filesystems
[10:06] <cfhowlett> qsl, newbster noted.  let's move on, shall we?
[10:06] <kaushal> i seriously dont know
[10:06] <iptable> kaushal, is that filesystem still fresh after you wiped it yesterday?
[10:07] <nekyian_> newbster, "Do or Not Do... don't Try
[10:07] <iptable> kaushal, if so, let's redo it and I will guide you through what you should do before removing drives
[10:07] <nekyian_> :)
[10:07] <cynicallemon> newbster:  if you use windows, you can burn the downloaded ubuntu iso to a usb using win32diskimager utility.
[10:07] <iptable> kaushal, got a GUI or CLI only?
[10:08] <newbster> sorry guys. I really am just new to all this - hence the name...  I really appreciate all the ones who have contributed and given suggestions, answers, and even links. Too many names to thank, but you know who you all are. Anyway, I have lots of links and reading material for tonight :)  Thank you once again and have a great day/night
[10:09] <iptable> newbster, no problem at all
[10:10] <tobiasschoel> hello, i've got a problem with evolution connecting to a citadel email server.
[10:11] <HSaka> Hello, I´ve updated my ubuntu server today. Right now I´m outside my house and connec´t to the server with ssh for somereason. I´´m 100% sure that the password is right
[10:11] <iptable> tobiasschoel, what protocol?
[10:11] <tobiasschoel> imap
[10:11] <ikonia> HSaka: what's the actual problem ?
[10:12] <HSaka> I´m getting permission denie
[10:12] <HSaka> denied
[10:12] <ikonia> HSaka: you've not stated a problem
[10:12] <iptable> tobiasschoel, so you have a problem making imap connection using evolution. standard imap, port 143?
[10:12] <ikonia> HSaka: look on the console in the syslog to see why it's being rejected
[10:12] <newbster> And qsl, I suggest you become a chat police since you were acting like it ;)  qsl, you remind me of those bitter people who have gone through the "hard path", therefore does not like to share the wealth and want others to either go the same hard path or harder. Thankfully you are outnumbered by people who want to contribute and help. qsl, for your sake, go meditate or pray and release all that bitterness. To everyone else, please ex
[10:13] <iptable> HSaka, so you are trying to ssh to your ubuntu server and cannot as you get permission denied? check logs on the ubuntu server
[10:13] <tobiasschoel> iptable yes, but also doesn't work on 465
[10:13] <YamakasY> when I build a package an I get this:  Unmet build dependencies: libdebconfclient0-dev (>= 0.46) libdebian-installer4-dev (>= 0.41) libiw-dev (>= 27+28pre9)
[10:13] <YamakasY> do I need to install the packages locally ?
[10:13] <iptable> tobiasschoel, telnet HOSTNAME 143
[10:14] <iptable> tobiasschoel, if telnet opens, then: 0 LOGIN username password
[10:14] <iptable> tobiasschoel, 0 is part of command, replace username and password with correct ones
[10:14] <HSaka> iptable, then I need to go home and do it. The strange thing is, when I´m trying to connect to my server local from home. I don´t get the problem.
[10:14] <tobiasschoel> iptable the pure connection is not the problem. it doesn't show any errors and thunderbird is working fine through that port
[10:14] <tobiasschoel> but evolution doesn't download any mail, although thunderbird does
[10:15] <iptable> HSaka, so possibly your router is not forwarding port 22 to the correct machine/at all, or your IP has changed
[10:15] <cynicallemon> HSaka: make sure your connection details are correct and that youre not using CAPS LOCK by mistake
[10:15] <iptable> tobiasschoel, can you please try to login as stated, using telnet, and by typing in the credentials you are using in evolution?
[10:15] <vak0160> halo
[10:15] <HSaka> iptable, already checked everyhing
[10:15] <HSaka> everything
[10:15] <tobiasschoel> iptable logged in using telnet
[10:16] <tobiasschoel> iptable seemed to work
[10:16] <HSaka> cynicallemon, it´s correct
[10:16] <iptable> tobiasschoel, ok, so it is a pure evolution issue.
[10:16] <tobiasschoel> yes, I think so, too
[10:16] <ikonia> HSaka: have you looked at the syslog to see why ssh is rejecting the connection ?
[10:16] <iptable> HSaka, can you please tell us the whole thing then? are you sure it is YOUR EXTERNAL IP you are trying to connect to?
[10:16] <cynicallemon> HSaka: does the server respond to pings?
[10:17] <HSaka> ikonia, I will do it when I´m home then
[10:17] <iptable> HSaka, you will need to
[10:17] <zoidberg-> Hey guys, i dont want to use a bundled home router but i live in the uk, and trying to find an adsl modem (and not router) is proving difficult.  I have a speedtouch 330 - but cant' seem to get it working in the latest distros, it detects it but cant seem to get an interface like /dev/ttys0 to talk to it with.   I wonder what other peope use as a modem of adsl (pppoatm)?
[10:17] <HSaka> iptable. it does. when I go by webbrowser it works fine
[10:17] <iptable> tobiasschoel, remove the evolution profile and reinsert it, might work.
[10:17] <ikonia> HSaka: no point discussing it until you can check that
[10:17] <iptable> tobiasschoel, let me rephrase, remove from your user home directory the .evolution dir and start evolution again
[10:18] <iptable> HSaka, you will need to check logs then o nthe server
[10:18] <HSaka> ikonia, okey :) THank you for info
[10:18] <tobiasschoel> iptable will try that
[10:18] <iptable> tobiasschoel, not using 2-factor-auth with your email, are you? (like SSO, ubuntu one, etc)
[10:19] <tobiasschoel> no, only password
[10:19] <iptable> tobiasschoel, evolution profile reset might help then
[10:20] <iptable> tobiasschoel, alternatively start evolution form command line terminal and see what errors you get
[10:20] <iptable> zoidberg-, what provider?
[10:21] <iptable> zoidberg-, and most people I know in UK who have pure ADSL and want just a modem use this: http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/business/vigor-120
[10:23] <ikonia> zoidberg-: you don't interact with a router like a modem
[10:23] <ikonia> zoidberg-: the route will have all the details configured on it as a device you just plugin to it as either eithernet or wireless and use it like a gateway
[10:24] <tobiasschoel> iptable deleting the .evolution dir and restarting evolution didn't help
[10:24] <iptable> ikonia, user wants to have a modem-only device and use linux box as router. and speedtouch 330 IS a modem, not a router.
[10:24] <iptable> tobiasschoel, what error are you getting?
[10:24] <ikonia> iptable: I've missunderstood then
[10:25] <cynicallemon> iptable: the vigor-120 is excelent, used one for years
[10:25] <tortib> Hello everyone.  I'm having a problem with oidentd and znc.  My ident isn't being spoofed with znc.  I checked the ~/.oidentd.conf file to see if znc is writing to it and it is.  However when I connect to IRC not all the servers I connect to are using the spoofed ident, only some are.  Here is my /etc/oidentd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/8158151/
[10:25] <iptable> ikonia, yeah, and I owned a speedtouch in the past. nasty devices which never work as required. oh, and most speedtouch ones are USB devices.
[10:25] <tobiasschoel> iptable post the log here directly?
[10:25] <iptable> tobiasschoel, no use a pastebin
[10:26] <tobiasschoel> iptable http://pastebin.com/Hha4urc1
[10:26] <ikonia> iGerald741: seems an odd requirement when routers are £5
[10:27] <iptable> tobiasschoel, looks like your email server is not sending the correct IMAP ending and evolution is very picky about it, while thunderbird tends to ignore errors and plunge on.
[10:27] <tomodachi> hail thunderbird
[10:27] <iptable> ikonia, not really. I didn't want a router at home. I use a modem and my linux HP Microserver as router and PBX device. why is that weird
[10:27] <ubuntu> hello to all
[10:28] <ikonia> iptable: not weird, just an odd requirement that not many inexperinced people would want
[10:28] <iptable> ikonia, it also lets me have 2 wifi networks, one home network and one guest. and I have a linxu router on the endpoint, which is nice from the iptables point of view.
[10:28] <ikonia> iptable: I have a similar setup,
[10:28] <iptable> ikonia, I'm guessing that is an experienced user ;)
[10:28] <YamakasY> ok, strange issue with building a package using bzr
[10:29] <cynicallemon> net < vigor120 > pfsense
[10:29] <YamakasY> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting
[10:32] <iptable> zoidberg-, if you are not an experienced linux adminsitrator, my advice would be to buy a router and use that. you can even buy a router certified for openwrt or ddwrt and flash it with those to have a linux router. configuring pppoa yourself is NOT an easy task
[10:33] <cynicallemon> iptable: its not that hard
[10:35] <cynicallemon> iptable: IIRC, ubuntu has/had a command line configurator for pppoa
[10:36] <zoidberg-> iptable: thats fine, i was specifically reffering to the hardware PPPoA is not that bad to configure pppd/libatm1 \
[10:38] <iptable> zoidberg-, hardware PPPoA, as in a router. or hardware modulator so that you do PPPoA on your linux router? modem would be the vigor, whereas if you want a device that will do PPPoA, you are looking at a router.
[10:39] <zoidberg-> i dont want a device to do PPPoA i want a modem that passes it down to the ethernet interface its connected to
[10:39] <zoidberg-> e.g. a linux router
[10:40] <iptable> zoidberg-, so just a modulator. in that case the vigor is what you need
[10:40] <iptable> zoidberg-, vigor 120
[10:40] <cynicallemon> zoidberg-: vigor 120 or 130
[10:41] <cynicallemon> zoidberg-: pass through option is as simple as a tick box
[10:41] <YamakasY> what key do I miss ? gpg: skipped "Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>": secret key not available
[10:43] <franco> ciao
[10:44] <zoidberg-> iptable, cynicallemon: awesome, thanks guys
[10:48] <zoidberg-> hey iptable why the vigor120 specifically? and not something like: http://www.amazon.co.uk/D-Link-DSL-320B-ADSL2-Ethernet-Modem/dp/B0015RRIKM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1409136367&sr=8-5&keywords=vigor+120 which is cheaper and a simple modem?
[10:49] <iptable> zoidberg-, because I know that the vigor works and I don't like dlink, but that is a personal choice
[10:49] <zoidberg-> ok cool
[10:52] <evil_dan2wik> quick, i need to know how to relay wifi to ethernet port
[11:08] <AuroraX> hi
[11:09] <AuroraX> I was reading topics such as this one: http://www.reddit.com/r/gerontology/comments/2ejo9g/how_to_convince_people_that_defeating_death_is/
[11:09] <AuroraX> does anyone here works in this field?
[11:09] <AuroraX> and is from computer science
[11:10] <hateball> !ot | AuroraX
[11:31] <evil_dan2wik> How would I relay a wifi connection to a computer connected to an ethernet port?
[11:32] <smss1995> evil_dan2wik, Just setup a Hotspot from System Settings -> Network -> Wireless connections
[11:34] <Densukke> hello, anyone around with experience in rancid - Cvsweb?
[11:34] <evil_dan2wik> smss1995, I am connecting to a wifi network and I need to share it with a desktop that only has ethernet.
[11:36] <Densukke> hello, anyone around with experience in rancid - Cvsweb?
[11:36] <sajan> wafflejock_,
[11:37] <k1l_> Densukke: honestly: did you ever try to ask the rancid guys? seems very few people in here know or use rancid
[11:38] <Densukke> not a problem with rancid, its works fine
[11:38] <Densukke> Im having problems setting CVSWEB to works with rancid...
[11:38] <Densukke> thats why im here
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Densukke, on ubuntu for 7 years - never used or heard cvsweb, but I suspect it has a support channel.
[11:40] <TJ-> Densukke: Your cvsweb issue is likely to do with the web-server configuration
[11:40] <frank_o> Hi! How do I `rm /swapfile`? I'm trying to create a new, much larger swapfile.
[11:40] <cfhowlett> !swap | frank_o
[11:40] <frank_o> cfhowlett: I'm well aware of that, thank you.
[11:40] <cfhowlett> frank_o, the link details exactly how to create / edit your swap
[11:41] <frank_o> cfhowlett: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks again!
[11:41] <frank_o> cfhowlett: Was currently on https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-on-ubuntu-14-04 which doesn't mention how to deal with existing swaps so
[11:42] <cfhowlett> frank_o,  not to worry.  read and learn, it's a pretty comprehensive and understandable explanation
[11:42] <Densukke> sry phone
[11:43] <Densukke> TJ that might be my problem, I kinda forgot evreything about webservr configuration...
[11:43] <frank_o> cfhowlett: Indeed. Cheers
[11:43] <TJ-> Densukke: There are 2 orthogonal issues: 1) rancid<> CVS integration and 2) CVS <> CVSweb <> web-server config
[11:44] <Densukke> in the middle
[11:44] <Densukke> CVS CVSweb
[11:44] <Densukke> I cant seemed to get to link cvsweb to the repositories created by rancid
[11:46] <Densukke> rancid works fine... I want to only use the web as an interface to rancid... but Im unable to pull from cvsweb the cvs repositories needed
[11:46] <Densukke> anyone can help me? I will be mostly gratefull : running ubu 14.04
[11:47] <cfhowlett> Densukke, this sounds like purely a rancid/cvsweb issue - not seeing how this is a problem to be solved in #ubuntu.  suggest you seek cvsweb  or rancid support options
[11:49] <subhojit777> any good note writing apps for ubuntu
[11:49] <cfhowlett> subhojit777, several.  see the software center for "note"
[11:52] <r4p9r0> hi. the unity panels disappeared, how to get them back?
[11:52] <r4p9r0> ubuntu 14.04
[11:52] <evil_dan2wik> push F11
[11:53] <r4p9r0> they don't appear after automatic login
[11:53] <evil_dan2wik> oh
[11:53] <evil_dan2wik> are you have to tell us what 'dmesg | tail' says?
[11:53] <evil_dan2wik> are you able*
[11:54] <r4p9r0> I'll check. give me some minutes
[11:54] <ajay3> looks like I came against a big wall :(
[11:55] <evil_dan2wik> r4p9r0, in CTRL+ALT+F1 or something btw
[11:55] <ajay3> I need to try emotiv headset and I've emotive SDK which is dependent on open-vibe, adastra and octave
[11:56] <subhojit777> cfhowlett, thanks I found zim. I got "springseed" and "everpad" in google results though
[11:56] <ajay3> openvibe, adastra and emotiv SDK are install-able in wine wheareas octave is install-able in ubuntu
[11:56] <cfhowlett> subhojit777, happy2help
[11:57] <ajay3> how can I make emotiv SDK to recognize octave which is installed in ubuntu?
[11:57] <ajay3> ?
[12:02] <r4p9r0> evil_dan2wik, nothing suspicious found in dmesg
[12:02] <evil_dan2wik> r4p9r0, nothing todo with X?
[12:02] <user123321> Please help, my machine crashed at 17.20 display time, rebooted with ctrl+alt+printscreen+r+i+u+s+b,  kernal log around that time: http://pastebin.com/mm0tUxzm
[12:03] <r4p9r0> evil_dan2wik, no.
[12:03] <evil_dan2wik> user123321, that is a long keycombo.
[12:04] <user123321> evil_dan2wik, hmm?
[12:04] <evil_dan2wik> user123321, ctrl+alt+printscreen+r+i+u+s+b
[12:04] <evil_dan2wik> Also, ran a mem check yet?
[12:04] <user123321> evil_dan2wik, emergency restart :)
[12:04] <user123321> mem check? hmm nope.
[12:05] <r4p9r0> evil_dan2wik, the background image and the icons with context menu are available, but not the panels
[12:05] <evil_dan2wik> r4p9r0, which panels side and top?
[12:05] <r4p9r0> both
[12:06] <evil_dan2wik> probably wait for someone with more experience.
[12:06] <webfox> Hey guys! I am under a proxy which seems to be blocking port 22 for ssh. is it possible to use ssh somehow on this situation?
[12:07] <evil_dan2wik> webfox, change the ssh port to an unblocked port
[12:07] <k1l_> r4p9r0: does it work in guest account? is the video driver working?
[12:07] <webfox> evil_dan2wik: ok. :D
[12:08] <evil_dan2wik> stock ubuntu artifacts really bad on my laptop until I install the AMD drivers for it.
[12:08] <ajay3> ??
[12:09] <r4p9r0> k1l_, it worked before. I don't know what happend to let it brake
[12:10] <r4p9r0> k1l_, how to access guest? it's autologin
[12:10] <evil_dan2wik> r4p9r0, log out?
[12:10] <r4p9r0> evil_dan2wik, how? the panel is gone …
[12:10] <k1l_> gnome-session-quit
[12:11] <k1l_> "gnome-session-quit --no-prompt " will log out direct without a prompt
[12:13] <evil_dan2wik> r4p9r0, push the power button?
[12:13] <evil_dan2wik> oh no, can't log out from there
[12:13] <evil_dan2wik> only lock, suspends, shutdown and restart
[12:14] <_1_soldier_man19> hi
[12:14] <k1l_> if guest-account is not working too, then see the logs if the video driver is working
[12:14] <r4p9r0> k1l_, can I do that in console? or how to get a terminal?
[12:18] <Vladimir> Tips how to automate an ssh login to switch and send commands to the switch?
[12:25] <TJ-> Vladimir: 'expect'
[12:26] <Vladimir> is it possible to pipe commands to network devices through ssh ?
[12:26] <SamuraiDio> hello,
[12:26] <oralone> daughter
[12:27] <SamuraiDio> my umask is set to 002 at login, how (where) can I change it system wide?
[12:28] <SamuraiDio> already checked /etc/login.defs, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile
[12:38] <k1l_> r4p9r0: see "dmesg" for the output
[12:38] <k1l_> r4p9r0: or make that to a pastebin with "dmesg | pastebinit" if you got pastebinit installed
[12:45] <Vladimir> Is there an ssh parameter to enter the password? ssh root@10.10.10.10 and it asks for password but I want it to automatically enter the password?
[12:51] <r4p9r0> k1l_, installed xubuntu-desktop. no time to fiddle around, thanks for help anyway.
[12:52] <lonejack> Problem on disk usage? I've a system 14.04 kubuntu with two hd, one for the os(/) and one for users(/home). Problem the system hd(38GB) seems occupeid at 100%. Can you help me?
[12:53] <Vladimir> when creating a bash script, can I just put all the commands I want it to type in the shell and it will work?
[12:55] <Guest-66679> hi
[12:56] <hggdh> Vladimir: yes, as long as there is no user interaction
[12:56] <cfhowlett> lonejack, spring cleaning: sudo apt-get autoremove               sudo apt-get clean                   may fix the issue by removing no longer needed .debs and kernels
[12:57] <hggdh> Vladimir: about SSH ad passwords -- you can try sshpass
[12:57] <lonejack> cfhowlett, thank you
[12:57] <Ziber> So, I have a simple cron'd python script. Part of the script involves writing to a log file, and this works when I run the script manually. It does not work, however, when run via cron. Any thoughts on this odd behavior?
[12:58] <Vladimir> hggdh: thanks, I just got sshpass to work
[12:58] <cfhowlett> lonejack, happy2help
[12:58] <Vladimir> hggdh: Now I need to put a bunch of commands after it logs in. Can I just put everything in a bash script?
[13:00] <frank_o> Ziber: are you using absolute paths in your python script?
[13:00] <hggdh> Vladimir: I think you are doing it in the wrong way. It would be much easier if you "ssh user@host 'shell; commands; and; more; commands;'"
[13:00] <frank_o> Ziber: had similar troubles when cronning this ruby script via whenever (https://github.com/javan/whenever)
[13:01] <frank_o> Ziber: i had to abs path everything, files, commands etc.
[13:01] <hggdh> Vladimir: or sftp/scp your batch over, and "ssh user@host batch.sh"
[13:03] <sajan> any one can help me how to give administrater rights to terminal permenantly
[13:05] <hggdh> frank_o: another point you should be careful with cron: cron cleans up the environment variables. If you depend on them, better make sure they are re-created in the script
[13:15] <fits> anyone here playing counter strike on ubuntu ?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> fits, I have.  why/
[13:16] <kostkon> fits, on steam yes
[13:17] <fits> what version of counter strike are you playing cfhowlett ? is it 1.6 ?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> fits, what ever is in the steam repo - CS source.  again... why?  what is your technical issue?
[13:18] <fits> because if it runs smoothly,then i will get rid of my windows 7
[13:20] <cfhowlett> fits, lot easier when you just state the issue plainly like that.  Long answer short: works for me.  but I only just installed the linux graphics driver.  unable to do anything with steam before that.  I've got acceptable graphics on the Counterstrike Source, HL2, Portal 1-2.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !worksforme
[13:21] <Defsdf> help
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !help | Defsdf,
[13:21] <fits> Awesome,Thanks cfhowlett
[13:21] <cfhowlett> fits, happy2help
[13:23] <frib_> i just changed my router and now I can resolve DNS addresses but i can't ping them .. what should I do?
[13:24] <Glorfindel> how can I set tty 1 so it will auto login and run irssi?
[13:27] <shubhojeet> frib_: your new router blocks icmp ping  ... most probably
[13:30] <talin> hello. i am trying to run apt-get update on ubuntu 9.10. but it can't download anything. i can ping google.com etc
[13:30] <talin> does it need any particular ports open?
[13:31] <dp100jam1> can you get any access to the internet at all?
[13:31] <talin> dp100jam1: yes
[13:31] <dp100jam1> you said it doesnt download anything.. but does it find the updates for the packages?
[13:32] <talin> dp100jam1: i get lots of 404 not found
[13:32] <cfhowlett> talin, 9.10 is end of life - repos retired and no longer supported
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !eol | taling
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !eol | talin
[13:33] <dp100jam1> thats what i figured
[13:33] <talin> ah. must i upgrade the entire server then?
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | talin,
[13:33] <cfhowlett> talin, only if you want silly things like security updates
[13:33] <talin> cfhowlett: it's in an isolated vlan
[13:33] <dp100jam1> talin: what does it do?
[13:34] <fits> i am curious why dont you just upgrade to 14.04.01 ?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> talin, if it faces the internet at all you're security is outdated = you are vulnerable.
[13:34] <fits> talin
[13:35] <talin> i'm just helping a friend writing a script for his server, so i need to install python-mysqldb
[13:35] <talin> i guess i should tell him to upgrade before i can help him
[13:35] <cfhowlett> talin, that is, in fact, the best way to help him.  14.04.1 is current.
[13:35] <talin> okay. thank you
[13:37] <Glorfindel> Is it not possible?
[13:39] <truepurple> I got a peculiar problem, for no apparent reason I am unable to delete, move rename, alter any file on ubuntu other then by terminal command
[13:40] <geirha> unless it's in your homedir or /tmp, it shouldn't be possible to remove or rename any files
[13:40] <truepurple> I am talking about those
[13:41] <truepurple> and other files Ive had no trouble manipulating till now
[13:41] <truepurple> like on other partitions
[13:42] <shubhojeet> truepurple: are you having problems with files on an external disk ?
[13:42] <shubhojeet> or on in the /home directory ?
[13:43] <truepurple> EVERYWHERE
[13:43] <truepurple> well I havent tried a second physical drive
[13:43] <truepurple> But all this was working fine not that long ago
[13:44] <cfhowlett> truepurple, "not that long ago" = ???
[13:44] <truepurple> yesterday
[13:44] <shubhojeet> are you using some other file browser ?
[13:44] <truepurple> I havent changed anything that I am aware of
[13:44] <Bez> hi
[13:44] <truepurple> only person here
[13:45] <Bez> someone is here?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !ask | Bez,
[13:47] <Bez> when i try to install ubuntu from an usb drive i got stuck in a loop of restarting the machine
[13:48] <truepurple> So can someone help then?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Bez, 1.  did you verify the ISO you downloaded.  2. did you verify the USB?
[13:48] <shubhojeet> truepurple: run this on your terminal sudo chown -r $USER:$USER $HOME
[13:49] <truepurple> shubhojeet, What is it suppose to do?
[13:50] <shubhojeet> truepurple: i guess you have file ownership issues .. i can't figure out anything else
[13:51] <Scrivener> So this issue resolves itself with restarts often, but sometimes (like right now) when I enter the Sound settings menu in Ubuntu and select a different Output (for instance headphones instead of speakers), it will revert my selection when I close the window, and even as long as I have the window open it still continues to play sound through the speakers instead of headphones.
[13:51] <Scrivener> How can I cause it to register and keep my selection?
[13:51] <shubhojeet> truepurple: in your terminal type `ls -l ` and paste a few lines and `whoami`
[13:51] <expunge> Scrivener: it'd probably be more reliable via a command
[13:52] <expunge> Scrivener: via pacmd or something of that nature
[13:52] <Bez> 1. yes 2. how to do it? i am able to boot from the usb and starting to install till i came to screen when i have a button Restrart..
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Bez,
[13:53] <Scrivener> expunge, pacmd only shows one source output available...
[13:53] <Scrivener> How strange.
[13:53] <Scrivener> The Sound menu shows two (correctly)
[13:54] <truepurple> -rw-r--r--  1 purp   purp       3117 2011-09-17 12:20 4144.asc
[13:54] <truepurple> -rw-r--r--  1 purp    purp    29093380 2011-07-02 14:22 avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386.deb
[13:54] <truepurple> drwxr-xr-x  2 purp    a purp        4096 2011-07-01 03:14 bin
[13:55] <thegoat> anyone here get smtp auth working with ubuntu and sendmail?  i've been working on it for a day and a half and can't seem to get the hang of it.
[13:55] <Scrivener> expunge, disconnecting and reconnecting the headphones worked, but I'd like to solve this permanently :-/
[13:55] <Scrivener> Just not sure how.
[13:56] <truepurple> shubhojeet, and whoami, just gives me my login handle
[13:56] <expunge> Scrivener: that's understandable =)
[13:56] <iopha> Hello. I upgraded to trusty the overnight.  Now I can't boot.
[13:56] <iopha> I need help!
[13:56] <truepurple> shubhojeet, BTW, you still havent told me what that previous command you mentioned is suppose to do
[13:56] <expunge> iopha: how far does it get
[13:56] <mordak> list
[13:56] <shubhojeet> truepurple: is your login handle  `purp` ?
[13:57] <truepurple> yes
[13:57] <truepurple> why?
[13:57] <thegoat> i think i have smtp auth configured, but everything it it tries to log in to send the email it says login failed, and i can't find any logging to tell me why
[13:57] <iopha> Expunge: I'm typing on my phone, forgive me.
[13:57] <AlexPortable> I have amazon in my start menu, how do I remove it?
[13:57] <AlexPortable> sudo apt-get remove amazon didn't work
[13:58] <oaulakh> how to make drives automount when ubuntu boot-up
[13:58] <fits> AlexPortable: you can disable the dash on ubuntu if you like
[13:58] <iopha> Expunge: it hangs on a blinking cursor after ubuntu 14.04 ...
[13:58] <truepurple> shubhojeet, yes
[13:58] <AlexPortable> fits: my desktop environment doesn't haves a dash
[13:58] <shubhojeet> truepurple: there is no problem with the file ownerships and permissions... are you using some other file browser ?
[13:58] <AlexPortable> I just want to remove the application amazon
[13:58] <dav1dp0101> Does anyone have experience solving permission errors on apache2? I put some files on my server at /var/www/html/archives and I can't access the files through a web browser (I get a 403 error). Checking my /var/log/apache2/error.log, I get: (13)Permission denied: AH00132: file permissions deny server access. I have changed the user and group owners to a default user, but still I don't have it working. Any thoughts?
[13:59] <truepurple> shubhojeet, I have not changed anything
[13:59] <thegoat> dav1dp0101: what user is apache running as?
[13:59] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: apache should be running as www-data, which is the default.
[14:00] <shubhojeet> truepurple: could you right click on a file and let me know what you see on the permissions tab
[14:00] <veryhappy> Hey guys, 1st, i'd like to thank someone who gave me a link yesterday about the topic:
[14:00] <veryhappy> how to ask questions in irc/newsgroups etc.
[14:00] <veryhappy> i was so dumb - thank you!
[14:00] <expunge> veryhappy: heh
[14:00] <truepurple> shubhojeet, Where is this permissions tab?
[14:00] <thegoat> what have you chmod the directory to
[14:00] <expunge> AlexPortable: it's called a 'lens', you can disable it and remove it
[14:01] <Bez> how do i fix the wrong md5sum?
[14:01] <truepurple> shubhojeet, never mind, found it
[14:01] <kostkon> AlexPortable, in the launcher or the dash?
[14:01] <AlexPortable> whats launcher?
[14:01] <dav1dp0101> The directory is chmod to 755 (drwxr-xr-x)
[14:01] <shubhojeet> truepurple: right click on a file in your home directory and click on properties and then click on the permissions tab
[14:01] <Puppy_> Um could I ask if anyone has experience with frame rate issues with Source games like Team Fortress 2? On my own machine it fluctuates greatly, making the game less enjoyable.
[14:01] <kostkon> AlexPortable, the dock
[14:01] <expunge> Puppy_: on steam?
[14:02] <Puppy_> Yes
[14:02] <truepurple> shubhojeet, owner purp read and write, group purp read and write others access read only
[14:02] <iopha> I tried booting in recovery mode and got my desktop image and cursor but nothing else
[14:02] <expunge> Puppy_: IME steam is laggy regardless of OS
[14:02] <thegoat> dav1dp0101 does this folder serve web pages ,or just hold files
[14:02] <AlexPortable> the start menu kostkon
[14:02] <expunge> Puppy_: might talk to #steamlug about performance tricks
[14:02] <YamakasY> is netcfg included in the netinstaller ?
[14:02] <shubhojeet> truepurple: then there seems to be no problem
[14:02] <Puppy_> But I never had this issue with Windows. My hardware is capable of running the software.
[14:02] <kostkon> AlexPortable, the results from amazon?
[14:03] <shubhojeet> truepurple: what is exactly not happening ?
[14:03] <truepurple> shubhojeet, Except for there being a problem
[14:03] <Puppy_> Ok Might take a look.
[14:03] <Bez> what should i do if i compared the hash in its not the same?
[14:03] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: This folder just holds files, but those files should be accessed by any client (by going to http://(IP address)/archives/file.mp3
[14:03] <kostkon> AlexPortable, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[14:03] <truepurple> shubhojeet, I said, I can not alter any file except by terminal command
[14:03] <thegoat> might need to allow directory browsing in the apache config
[14:04] <truepurple> shubhojeet, If I click on a file, and hit delete, it does not delete, if I right click it, the menu options for delete, copy, rename, move to and others are all blacked out.
[14:04] <shubhojeet> truepurple: give me an example
[14:04] <YamakasY> in other words, does initrd.gz contains netcfg ?
[14:05] <oaulakh> i got it myself
[14:05] <truepurple> shubhojeet, hotkeys dont work either, ctrl c and ctrl p etc does not copy and past like it should
[14:05] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: how do I allow directory browsing in the apache config? (Also, I changed a bunch of owners (chown) of my /var/www/html folder and what's inside, so I was worried I caused a problem there. But this error existed before I changed owners.)
[14:05] <veryhappy> 2nd: i want to set the bitrate of my wifi card (RTL8723AE) to a highter level than 18Mbit, it always doesn't come higher than that. If i set it to 54Mbit it works for a few minutes and after that the connection breaks up. I'd like to know if there is any problem with a library or if that's a mistake that i have made (i.e. not all libraries installed), i tried to get it working myself,...
[14:05] <veryhappy> ...already looked in many forums but i didn't find anything of that specific situation.  please can someone give me directions?
[14:05] <truepurple> shubhojeet, Isnt that enough of a example? They are all like that, I don't get what you mean by example
[14:05] <iopha> Need help with 14.04. Just upgraded now system hangs on blinking cursor.
[14:06] <AlexPortable> kostkon: i can only remove unity-scope-home
[14:06] <iopha> Have no idea where problem is.
[14:06] <AlexPortable> kostkon: but that will remove ubuntu-desktop and unity also
[14:06] <kostkon> AlexPortable, don't do that
[14:06] <veryhappy> used notebook: msi ge60 20ei745fd with ubuntu 14.04 64 bit thanks
[14:06] <veryhappy> expunge: better? :d
[14:07] <shubhojeet> truepurple: Ubuntu version ?
[14:07] <shubhojeet> truepurple: could you install spacefm `sudo apt-get install spacefm`
[14:08]  * expunge shrugs
[14:08] <truepurple> shubhojeet, What does spacehm suppose to do?
[14:08] <AlexPortable> kostkon: yes but then how do i remove amazon?
[14:08] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: actually, I don't think that is the problem. When I go to the directory through a client, all the contents (the files) display fine. But when I click on one of the files to download or play it, I get the (13)Permission denied error.
[14:08] <AlexPortable> if i move it to my desktop it says ubuntu-amazon-default.desktop
[14:08] <veryhappy> expunge: what's up?
[14:08] <kostkon> AlexPortable, are you using unity? or some other desktop environment
[14:09] <AlexPortable> gnome fallback
[14:09] <NicksCode> I dont remember the ubuntu iso being 1 GB -.-
[14:09] <shubhojeet> truepurple: spacefm is another file browser.. what is your ubuntu version ?
[14:09] <kostkon> AlexPortable, right. There should be a menu editor somewhere. Or you could install one from the software centre. Use it to delete the amazon menu entry
[14:09] <AlexPortable> well i want to remove it completely
[14:09] <AlexPortable> instead of only being hidden
[14:09] <AlexPortable> someone might unhidden it
[14:10] <cfhowlett> NicksCode, things change.
[14:10] <AlexPortable> nvm found it
[14:10] <NicksCode> cfhowlett but my connection stays the same... 350KB/s download
[14:11] <Bez> if i have the wrong md5sum so i need to redownload the iso?
[14:11] <kostkon> AlexPortable, sudo apt-get remove unity-webapps-amazon*
[14:11] <k1l_> NicksCode: they dropped the old cd 700mb limit
[14:11] <cfhowlett> NicksCode, don't download = torrent
[14:11] <AlexPortable> wait i didnt 'remove it yet
[14:11] <sleipnir> hi, I setup a ubuntu machine but it is not allowing me to ssh in via eth1, ssh works fine via the network connected to eh0, but not eth1, what could be going on herE?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Bez, it means your ISO is corrupted
[14:11] <AlexPortable> only webapps-qml and webbapps-service
[14:11] <NicksCode> I wish there was a minimal download with just the desktop enviroment
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !mini | NicksCode
[14:12] <truepurple> shubhojeet, Is there something else I can try?
[14:12] <Bez> cfhowlett, Thanks
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Bez, happy2help
[14:12] <k1l_> NicksCode: there is a minimal iso but you need to install the deskop on your own after installing
[14:12] <AlexPortable> how do i install a .tar.gz file?
[14:13] <Guest49898> Hello I need assistance. I can't figure out why 14.04 hangs on boot!
[14:13] <expunge> Guest49898: hangs when on boot?
[14:13] <expunge> AlexPortable: of what?
[14:13] <geirha> AlexPortable: preferably only as a last resort
[14:13] <Guest10666> Hello everyone.
[14:14] <thegoat> dav1dp0101: chmod 777 one of the files and see what happens
[14:14] <k1l_> AlexPortable: depends on what is inside the .tar.gz
[14:14] <Hannes_> I needs assistance, I am installing 10.04 (because I work with hardware which doesn't support pae) over serial but after keyboard selection, the screen goes black. When I type, the letters appear on the screen so it seems the box is not dead but it doesn't react anymore
[14:15] <Guest49898> Expunge: I get as far as the ubuntu 14.04 graphic with the dots underneath then a blinking cursor
[14:15] <expunge> Guest49898: a blinking cursor?
[14:15] <Guest49898> And nothing else yeah.
[14:15] <leeyaa> hello
[14:15] <leeyaa> do you guys have any idea why would lsof give this error?
[14:15] <leeyaa> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /dev/shm/var.run
[14:16] <Guest49898> I can get to recovery mode but not sure what to do
[14:16] <nagerst> hi. issuing the halt command does not completely shut down the computer whilst pressing the powerbuton does. What am i missing?
[14:17] <mojo-jojo> nagerst what command do you use? can you tpe it for me?
[14:17] <AlexPortable> k1l_: folder/executabe, folder/config folder/doc folder/logfiles folder/tv_bin
[14:17] <truepurple> shubhojeet, The odd thing is, I can do other things, like I can save a file etc. And I can alter files with terminal commands
[14:17] <mojo-jojo> sudo shutdown -h now | is what I use.
[14:17] <expunge> AlexPortable: no, what is it
[14:18] <k1l_> AlexPortable: and what do you want to install? which program?
[14:18] <Bez> what is the best way to download the iso file and get uncrupted iso i am using IDM (downloaded 3 times)
[14:18] <AlexPortable> k1l_: found it, i need to execute it then it works
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Bez, torrents.
[14:18] <AlexPortable> where should i put it?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> !torrent
[14:18] <coxalt> Hello, recently i installed apache2/php/mysql and now i have installed skype
[14:18] <k1l_> nagerst: i am not sure if "halt" is the same as "shutdown".
[14:19] <Bez> where i can get the torrent file?
[14:19] <coxalt> everything worked fine until i restarted computer
[14:19] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: ok that worked, but that's not a good solution. It leaves my files vulnerable to being overwritten by a client.
[14:19] <coxalt> So now i can't login to skype
[14:19] <AlexPortable> k1l_:  reboot(8) name: reboot, halt, poweroff - reboot or stop the system
[14:19] <coxalt> How to resolve this problem with skype and apache?
[14:19] <scrooge_mcduck> hello
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Bez, cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases
[14:20] <expunge> Bez: IDM?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !hello | scrooge_mcduck,
[14:20] <IdleOne> Bez: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !hi | scrooge_mcduck,
[14:20] <nagerst> mojo-jojo: "sudo halt"
[14:20] <AlexPortable> expunge:  k1l_: program mta server
[14:21] <k1l_> nagerst: does "sudo shutdown -hP now" work?
[14:21] <nagerst> mojo-jojo: shutdown -h = halt and results in the exact same issue
[14:21] <thegoat> dav1dp0101: now do a chmod go-w <filename> and see what happens
[14:21] <Bez> thx (IDM=internet download manager
[14:21] <nagerst> What does 'P' do?
[14:21] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: oh, that was totally the problem! My older files had the wrong permissions.
[14:21] <k1l_> AlexPortable: did you look into the official ubuntu repos if there is something supported?
[14:21] <AlexPortable> there is not
[14:21] <k1l_> nagerst: power off
[14:21] <dav1dp0101> They were set to 600. I set them to 644 and it's all good now.
[14:21] <dav1dp0101> thegoat: thanks!
[14:22] <AlexPortable> k1l_: would take too much time to include it in every distro's repos
[14:22] <thegoat> dav1dp0101: no problem...sometimes it just takes another set of eyes
[14:22] <mistawright> hey guys i need some help. I have been trying to figure out how to create a slideshow from images using ffmpeg. Is there any other way to create a slideshow from images with transitions from the command line?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> mistawright, avconv or imagemagick
[14:23] <AlexPortable> k1l_: also on windows you just move it into program files and done
[14:23] <AlexPortable> but there is no program files on ubuntu
[14:23] <expunge> avconv is just ffmpeg from libav, no? =P
[14:24] <expunge> mistawright: #ffmpeg would have the skinny
[14:24] <k1l_> AlexPortable: i think you are on the wrong path. dont try to do it the windows way on ubuntu
[14:24] <cfhowlett> expunge, well, there's an interesting story behind all that ...
[14:24] <expunge> not that interesting =)
[14:24] <williamtdr> Hi.
[14:24] <Sven_vB> which FUSE driver can I use to mount some directory of my webspace (apache, file listing on) as a read-only FS?
[14:24] <williamtdr> Using exec() in my php script, ubuntu 14.04.4, php 5.4.
[14:25] <Sven_vB> i tried fusedav but PROPFIND fails
[14:25] <williamtdr> wget with the -O option produces this output in the error log: sh: 1: -O: not found
[14:25] <williamtdr> in other words, it's ignoring the argument and trying to interpret it as a file
[14:25] <expunge> Sven_vB: sshfs
[14:25] <williamtdr> Any reason why this would be?
[14:25] <expunge> williamtdr: in your init script?
[14:25] <scrooge_mcduck> how can tar up a specific directory? :/
[14:25] <AlexPortable> k1l_: what should i do then?
[14:25] <Sven_vB> expunge, i'm surprised but i'll try… :)
[14:26] <AlexPortable> k1l_: i don't feel like executing it from ~/Documents/
[14:26] <k1l_> AlexPortable: what is the target?
[14:26] <williamtdr> expunge: Nope, using exec() to escape to the shell in a php script running as www-data
[14:26] <expunge> Sven_vB: perhaps I don't understand your goal =)
[14:26] <AlexPortable> target?
[14:26] <expunge> scrooge_mcduck: tar -czf foo.tar directory
[14:26] <expunge> scrooge_mcduck: ahem
[14:26] <expunge> scrooge_mcduck: tar -czf foo.tar.gz directory
[14:26] <k1l_> AlexPortable: on ubuntu you dont load stuff from websites and execute it. you take a look what is made to work with the packagesystem. best case the official ubuntu repos
[14:27] <somsip> williamtdr: you should be using curl, or file_get_contents at a push. Why drop to exec()?
[14:27] <AlexPortable> k1l_: the application is teamviewer quicksupport
[14:27] <NicksCode> traceroute is not installed by default -.-
[14:27] <AlexPortable> also skype wasn't
[14:27] <williamtdr> I guess file_get_contents() would work better in this case, thanks, will use that instead.
[14:27] <expunge> AlexPortable: you can just tar -xf it and run the executable in the teamviewer9 dir
[14:27] <expunge> AlexPortable: might not work unless you have a local Wine install, though, IME
[14:27] <AlexPortable> yes but that dir is ~/Documents/teamviewer now
[14:28] <expunge> AlexPortable: so?
[14:28] <AlexPortable> i want another directory
[14:28] <AlexPortable> someone might move it and then the start menu shortcut will break
[14:28] <k1l_> AlexPortable: skype is in the partner repo
[14:29] <expunge> AlexPortable: you can put it anywhere you please
[14:29] <k1l_> AlexPortable: and teamviewer offers .deb packages
[14:29] <AlexPortable> the normal teamviewer is .deb
[14:29] <AlexPortable> the quick support is .tar.gz
[14:30] <AlexPortable> how to enable partner repo?
[14:30] <k1l_> AlexPortable: sorry but you are talking about linking it etc, so it doubt that is the best solution here
[14:30] <AlexPortable> huh
[14:30] <nagerst> AlexPortable: you could just make a symlink to the binary like this "ln -s /home/AlexPortable/Documents/program/binary /usr/bin/whateveryouwouldliketocalltheshortcut"
[14:30] <AlexPortable> well how am i going to put it in my start menu without linking
[14:31] <nagerst> AlexPortable: most menu shortcuts are .desktop files that you edit with a simple text editor
[14:31] <Bez> i download the iso file at least 4 times and this the md5 i get 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd
[14:31] <k1l_> AlexPortable: why dont you make a real install of teamviewer if you want the real install with all its benefits?
[14:31] <expunge> Bez: which iso file?
[14:31] <scrooge_mcduck> expunge: woei :D
[14:31] <AlexPortable> because i dont need all benefits
[14:31] <scrooge_mcduck> easier then i thought
[14:31] <expunge> scrooge_mcduck: ?
[14:31] <expunge> scrooge_mcduck: oh, tar?
[14:31] <AlexPortable> i only need quicksupport for the owner of the laptop
[14:32] <Bez> ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64
[14:32] <AlexPortable> teamviewer itself will make it confusing
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Bez, does it match the reported hash?
[14:32] <AlexPortable> i've used it, but they will ask me which password they need to fill in
[14:32] <Bez> no
[14:32] <cfhowlett> bez then stop downloading!!!!
[14:32] <k1l_> AlexPortable: ok, its your choice then
[14:32] <Sven_vB> expunge, i'm sharing part of my media collection via HTTP already for some devices, and would like to add an ubuntu notebook as a playback station. i want to save VLC from having to figure out what best to do for buffering and seeking, so i'd like to disguise it as just files.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Bez, remember I suggested you use torrent.  much more reliable method
[14:32] <Bez> i used the torrent the last time
[14:33] <expunge> Bez: that looks like the right sum to me
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Bez, make sure you are checking the correct sum for your ubuntu version.
[14:33] <AlexPortable> is there any way I can disable s with ^or '?
[14:33] <AlexPortable> when i type don't, i get don'
[14:33] <expunge> AlexPortable: hrmm?
[14:33] <AlexPortable> becuase it tries to put ' on the t, which it shouldn't
[14:33] <AlexPortable> on windows i type; <d><o><n><'><t>
[14:34] <Bez> i compared with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:34] <Sven_vB> expunge, probably i should just activate webdav on apache, so it does reply to the PROPFIND
[14:34] <k1l_> Bez: check the md5sum here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[14:34] <AlexPortable> on ubuntu i have to type; <d><o><n><'><space><t>
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Bez, but did you download 14.04 or 14.04.1
[14:34] <k1l_> Bez: its not updated for 14.04.1 yet
[14:34] <k1l_> Bez: check my url. its all fine
[14:34] <expunge> Sven_vB: mebbe, #httpd ?
[14:35] <anupam> how can i see the currently running foreground process
[14:35] <Bez> thx again
[14:35] <expunge> AlexPortable: sounds like your text configs are goofed
[14:36] <AlexPortable> i just did a clean install
[14:36] <AlexPortable> how can i fix them?
[14:36] <AlexPortable> also it allows me to put ' and ^ on s
[14:36] <expunge> AlexPortable: screenshot, just to be sure?
[14:36] <AlexPortable> normally you would put them on é and ê
[14:36] <Sven_vB> expunge, that wouldn't be a problem that much, it's just that since i only want read access anyways, i wondered whether there was an easier way that uses the directory indexes for file listing.
[14:36] <AlexPortable> screenshot of what?
[14:36] <AlexPortable> also is teamviewer in the repos?
[14:37] <Sven_vB> there's httpfs but it only suppots one file per mountpoint it seems
[14:37] <expunge> AlexPortable: nope
[14:37] <darkside_> hey guys
[14:37] <darkside_> keep getting this message while accessing a NAS using CIFS: "CIFS VFS: bogus file nlink value 0", any ideas what it can be?
[14:37] <AlexPortable> if i install it , will it update itself?
[14:38] <Bez> to prepare my usb drive i am using "Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.5" is that the right choice?
[14:39] <hggdh> AlexPortable: there is no package called teamviewer in the repos. You can use http://packages.ubuntu.com to check, BTW
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !usb | Bez, unetbootin is the more usual app
[14:39] <AlexPortable> ok
[14:39] <AlexPortable> how do i put trashbin on desktop?
[14:40] <Bez> thx
[14:41] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ install unity-tweak-tool
[14:41] <AlexPortable> philinux: can't i do it with a command?
[14:42] <rich0d> apt-get install unity-tweak-tool ? ;)
[14:42] <AlexPortable> no
[14:43] <AlexPortable> i mean putting trashbin on desktop
[14:43] <AlexPortable> outside unity-tweak-tool
[14:43] <mwic> okay, so I resized a windows partition to prep for ubuntu install; now windows wants a bitlocker recovery key, which I don't have
[14:43] <mwic> Is that the end of windows on this machine ( doesn't bother me much if it is )
[14:43] <toejam100> pretty much
[14:44] <toejam100> was this machine joined to an AD domain
[14:44] <mwic> It's a used thinkpad I got a few months ago
[14:44] <mwic> No idea about AD domains and such stuff
[14:44] <toejam100> so whenever you make any important changes to the system.. bitlocker gets mad and asks for the key for security measure
[14:44] <mwic> all of MS's documentation says "get the recovery key from your administrator"
[14:44] <toejam100> i am assuming you encrypted the hard drive
[14:45] <mwic> bought it used, was all set up when it came, had no idea it was bitlocker'd
[14:45] <toejam100> right, so the hard drive was probably encrypted by bitlocker then
[14:45] <toejam100> and unfortunately, you cant get access to the windows partition
[14:45] <mwic> I think the dualBoot doc ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Have_a_Windows_recovery_CD.2BAC8-DVD_available ) ought to warn people that they need to grab their BL recover key before resizing
[14:45] <toejam100> unless you have that key
[14:45] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ maybe my google foo is stronger   gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop trash-icon-visible true
[14:46] <philinux> http://askubuntu.com/questions/267049/how-to-display-trash-and-home-folder-icons
[14:46] <toejam100> what you should do in the future, is suspend bitlocker, make your changes, and then re-enable it
[14:46] <mwic> true
[14:46] <mwic> I'll put ubuntu in the newly-freed space
[14:46] <toejam100> but unfortunately, bitlocker is doing it's job, and it wouldnt be a very good one if it was easy to circumvent drive encryption
[14:47] <AlexPortable> thanks philinux
[14:47] <mwic> y, toejam100 it just seems like there were places where a user could be warned about this
[14:47] <mwic> either in Ubuntu install docs or in Windows partitioning tool
[14:48] <kudakwashe> how can i add /home/kudakwashe/bin to my executable path variable, an easy one liner?
[14:48] <streulma> hello, when I run Ubuntu 14.04.1 on my Macbook Pro Mid 2012 13 inch, then I get some black glitches in screen
[14:49] <mwic> wait .. bitlocker won't let me open the DVD drive?
[14:49] <cn28h> kudakwashe: PATH=/home/kudakwashe/bin:$PATH
[14:49] <kudakwashe> thanks
[14:51] <streulma> something has to do with Intel HD4000 card ?
[14:51] <mwic> been a long time since i had to do the paper-clip in the disc tray trick
[14:54] <AlexPortable> do i need 32 or 64 bit wine?>
[14:55] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, match your OS 32 or 64?
[14:56] <AlexPortable> 64
[14:56] <AlexPortable> os is 64
[14:57] <blackyboy> Hi everyone how to setup a svn server ?
[14:58] <AlexPortable> sudo apt-get install [svnserversoftwarehere]
[14:58] <rich0d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[14:58] <streulma> blackboy: sudo apt-get install subversion
[15:00] <k1l_> AlexPortable: just install wine from the repo. that will install the right wine for you
[15:00] <Sven_vB> blackyboy, are you sure you don't want git instead? :D
[15:00] <blackyboy> streulma: I need to build a Subversion server
[15:00] <blackyboy> Sven_vB: clients request but i dont have idea
[15:01] <streulma> blackyboy: yes, we used it for years
[15:01] <Sven_vB> blackyboy, there should be an svn server included in the subversion package
[15:01] <blackyboy> ok
[15:01] <streulma> blackyboy over SSL https 443
[15:01] <Blenda>  (linux demos) hi all, does someone know how to launch this: https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Linux_Demos , here i've dled the "realistic rendering demo". I've asked on #unreal chans, but no life for the moment
[15:01] <AlexPortable> k1l_: i did
[15:02] <AlexPortable> sudo apt-get install wine
[15:02] <Baluse> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exYGUgYLpJU&feature=youtu.be&t=45s
[15:03] <streulma> man, I want to use Ubuntu :( but it's doing so strange, who can help? :(
[15:03] <zorgy> strange? what do you mean?
[15:04] <MarkyMan> Hello @all...is there anyone can Help me???
[15:04] <Blenda> ask your question
[15:04] <streulma> zorgy: glitches in screen, and maybe a known bug, Dash crashes when searching and open app
[15:04] <MarkyMan> ok...once..sorry for my bad english
[15:05] <k1l_> AlexPortable: ubuntus packagemanager is multiarch, so it will choose the right 32bit or 64 for you
[15:05] <Crowe165> Hi, does ubuntu discs include a uefi shell?
[15:05] <AlexPortable> ok
[15:05] <MarkyMan> i have installed on a Android Stick ubuntu...it works..but one Problem i have. The System is on a 8gb SD Card..but i have in ubuntu only 2gb space...and only 260mb avaible
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !uefi | Crowe165,
[15:05] <MarkyMan> i have made 2 steps
[15:06] <MarkyMan> 1:echo -e "d\nn\np\n1\n81921\n\nw" | sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[15:06] <Crowe165> I wanto to start the efi shell ...
[15:06] <MarkyMan> 2:sudo resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p1
[15:06] <MarkyMan> but i still have 2gb space
[15:06] <Crowe165> How?
[15:06] <cfhowlett> MarkyMan, 2 bg is not enough to install ubuntu.
[15:07] <zorgy> ;(
[15:07] <MarkyMan> but unbutu says in System free space 260mb
[15:08] <MarkyMan> any Idea?
[15:10] <expunge> MarkyMan: about what?
[15:11] <expunge> oh you want to resize
[15:16] <Kamuela> Does anyone else find Chrome to be a real pain with these random profile corruption issues?
[15:16] <expunge> I find it to be a real pain in general
[15:17] <expunge> Google doesn't assemble software very well
[15:19] <Kamuela> WHOOOOOAAA
[15:25] <shubho> MarkyMan: try `sudo passwd`
[15:25] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : here i don't buy under 60, buy a 760 instead (i think)
[15:25] <MarkyMan> is this then root pw?
[15:25] <WhatsAnOuya> Could I ask your reasoning?
[15:25] <Blenda> perfs
[15:25] <shubho> Markyman: user password
[15:25] <Blenda> find some benchs
[15:25] <had0w-olga> Всем привет
[15:25] <WhatsAnOuya> I was also hoping for something reasonably cheap.
[15:25] <MarkyMan> shubho what?? Sorry i am a ubuntu noob ;-(
[15:25] <shubho> MarkyMan: then it will ask you to set UNIX root password
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !ru | had0w-olga,
[15:25] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : budget?
[15:25] <WhatsAnOuya> I was looking at a 750 because I see one available for £107
[15:25] <WhatsAnOuya> Under £200 really.
[15:25] <streulma> he, is anyone sometimes going to FOSDEM here?
[15:26] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : w8
[15:28] <Gatis> Hi. How do i install flash plugin for chromium please?
[15:28] <bluer> first time test
[15:28] <bluer> test
[15:28] <Patricky_Web> bluer ?
[15:29] <Patricky_Web> We  can see you
[15:29] <bluer> sorry first time using an ırc :)
[15:29] <Gatis> Hi. How do i install flash plugin for chromium please?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> Gatis: Hi. How do i wait for someone to answer ?
[15:30] <expunge> heh
[15:30] <Patricky_Web> Gatis one sec ill help you
[15:30] <expunge> Gatis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[15:31] <Blenda> WatsAnOuya : for 200 i found a 760 4Go, i'd choose this (my opinion)
[15:31] <Patricky_Web> :) expunge is faster than me lol
[15:31] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : for 200 i found a 760 4Go, i'd choose this (my opinion)
[15:31] <hualet_deepin> Gatis: why not use chrome instead, it gets better support
[15:31] <WhatsAnOuya> Could you send me a link pls?
[15:31] <Gatis> hualet_deepin, true
[15:33] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/ scroll down to find 4Go cards (french website in Euros)
[15:33] <had0w-olga_> Добрый день
[15:33] <WhatsAnOuya> Ok thanks :)
[15:33] <had0w-olga_> rus ? eng ?
[15:33] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : give yours
[15:33] <Gatis> First time i hear Pepper Flash Player
[15:33] <WhatsAnOuya> The link I have for the 750?
[15:33] <Blenda> yep
[15:34] <MarkyMan> i need Help with installed questions..is there anyone with linux end levels who can help me??
[15:34] <AlexPortable> what are linux end levels?
[15:34] <WhatsAnOuya> http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Components/cat/Graphics-Cards-Nvidia
[15:34] <AlexPortable> also how did you install your questions MarkyMan ?
[15:34] <MarkyMan> is it possible in a room??
[15:34] <pavel_> Zdarova narod!!!!
[15:35] <Gatis> What's the pacakge for Google Chrome?
[15:35] <tekk> hi guys, my ubuntu server is stuck at “Waiting for network configuration”
[15:35] <tekk> i know why (i fucked up the net config)
[15:35] <tekk> but i can’t get past that now
[15:35] <tekk> i’ve tried single user mode
[15:36] <expunge> Gatis: what's wrong with chromium?
[15:36] <AlexPortable> MarkyMan: whats possible in a room?
[15:36] <expunge> hualet_deepin: don't be ridiculous
[15:36] <expunge> Gatis: chromium is fine, read the link I gave you
[15:36] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : http://www.ebuyer.com/546764-gigabyte-gtx-760-oc-4gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-gv-n760oc-4gd and http://www.ebuyer.com/643504-msi-gtx-760-gaming-oc-4gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-n760-tf-4gd5-oc
[15:36] <AlexPortable> WhatsAnOuya: ##hardware
[15:36] <AlexPortable> Gatis: use firefox
[15:36] <Gatis> i ahve problems with firefox
[15:36] <Gatis> font problems
[15:37] <WhatsAnOuya> Thanks.
[15:37] <AlexPortable> what font problems?
[15:37] <WhatsAnOuya> That looks great.
[15:37] <MarkyMan> ok..sorry for the bad english...i have install once with svn...but at the and there is an error: svn-base no spaceleft on device
[15:37] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya : whats your comp specs? proc, ram, psu
[15:38] <Gatis> AlexPortable, letters like āēīčšņ looks stranger than other fonts
[15:38] <WhatsAnOuya> Intel i3. 8GB DDR3 RAM, not sure on the power supply though...
[15:38] <zorgy> firefox works fine with Xubuntu, like it :)
[15:38] <WhatsAnOuya> Hmmm...
[15:38] <WhatsAnOuya> Good point.
[15:38] <AlexPortable> Gatis: no idea how to solve that
[15:39] <pavel_> pidgin is good?
[15:39] <XepoofBNC> ¥€æ, ŋ€n€®æłł, →ŧ ð€þ€nðß øn ŧħ€ ©ħæ® €nŋøð€→nŋ øđ ŧħ€ đønđ :P
[15:40] <tekk> any ideas?
[15:40] <WhatsAnOuya> Could I ask what the GTX 760 requires to run properly regarding power?
[15:40] <AlexPortable> WhatsAnOuya: ##hardware
[15:41] <XepoofBNC> Gatis : generally, the Ubuntu font solves those problems, and there are some font 'expansion packs' you can get via apt
[15:41] <Blenda> WhatsAnOuya check your mp
[15:41] <AlexPortable> mp?
[15:41] <Blenda> pm sorry
[15:41] <AlexPortable> message de privates? :p
[15:41] <MarkyMan> what the fuxxxx...i will start Firefox..i didnt start..i want to make a profile...Profile not be created....maaaaaaaaaaaan
[15:41] <Gatis> maybe i need microsoft fonts?
[15:41] <Blenda> message privé yess ;)
[15:42] <WhatsAnOuya> Fine I'll go. Thanks Blenda. :)
[15:42] <Blenda> lol he quitted
[15:43] <Blenda> Markyman: you have to be patient in the first days on Linux, not the same Horse
[15:43] <justvaow> hello
[15:44] <trijntje> MarkyMan: didn't you just say you ran out of disk space? Then its not wonder nothing works, you will need to remove some stuf first
[15:44] <hualet_deepin> justvaow: hi ;)
[15:44] <MarkyMan> but know i have make a new partition..i have 6gb free space
[15:44] <justvaow> Hello, i need some help if you guys don't mind.
[15:44] <trijntje> MarkyMan: why do you have to make a new partition? How big is your partition now?
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !ask | justvaow,
[15:45] <justvaow> Okay well then, my question is how do i get FileZilla to work, ive tried the software center it keeps giving me errors.
[15:45] <MarkyMan> oh..ok..i have find the problem...i make the Profile in the new Partition..than it is ok...hm
[15:45] <justvaow> Then I downloaded from the official site and it gave me some random files
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !details | justvaow,
[15:46] <trijntje> justvaow: in ubuntu you always install software from the software center. So what errors do you get when you install it from the softwrae center?
[15:46] <justvaow> Let me check
[15:48] <justvaow> I click more info, use this source, and nothing happens
[15:48] <justvaow> Failed to download repos info check internet connection
[15:49] <justvaow> Is the error i get from the software center
[15:49] <cfhowlett> justvaow, first report the outcome of this terminal command:   cat /etc/issue
[15:49] <hualet_deepin> justvaow: try the command 'sudo apt-get update' and seek what does it give.
[15:50] <justvaow> Okay it looks like its updating
[15:50] <MarkyMan> can i make the system partiotion in ubuntu bigger???
[15:51] <trijntje> MarkyMan: not while the system is in use, you have to start the pc from the usb/dvd again and use gparted to change the partitions. Be sure to make a backup of all data first
[15:51] <k1l_> MarkyMan: yes, but only if you boot a live system
[15:51] <MarkyMan> shit...
[15:51] <justvaow> Okay its finished
[15:51] <justvaow> it says Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored
[15:52] <YamakasY> anyone building his own netinstall images ?
[15:52] <justvaow> and cat /ect/issue gives no file or directory
[15:52] <k1l_> !paste | justvaow
[15:53] <cfhowlett> justvaow, what, exactly, did cat /etc/issue return?
[15:53] <tekk> ctrl+alt+f1
[15:53] <tekk> was the answer ;)
[15:53] <justvaow> How do i copy from terminal?
[15:53] <YamakasY> s/f1/esc :P
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !paste | justvaow,
[15:53] <expunge> justvaow: X term or outside of X?
[15:54] <justvaow> !paste this does not tell me how to copy from terminal
[15:54] <justvaow> X term?
[15:54] <justvaow> What is the x term
[15:54] <justvaow> "yousufshad@yousufpc:~$ cat /ect/issue
[15:54] <justvaow> cat: /ect/issue: No such file or directory
[15:54] <justvaow> "
[15:54] <k1l_> konsole. or is it the terminal program on the desktop?
[15:54] <expunge> justvaow: e-t-c
[15:54] <cfhowlett> justavpw install and use pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:54] <Bez> again i got stuck in the installation of "ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64" i am booting from the usb flash drive and choose to install inside win7 then i press the button "restart..." to complete the installation, but when the machine is rebooted its going back to the same screens over and over again. check md5sum is fine. help pls.
[15:54] <[z]orgy> lol^^
[15:54] <mrvadon>  
[15:54] <expunge> justvaow: use /e[TAB] if you need
[15:54] <frib> can anyone recommend a good server for streaming audio ?
[15:55] <expunge> frib: icecast
[15:55] <k1l_> justvaow: etc not ect
[15:55] <expunge> frib: or ssh/fs
[15:55] <cfhowlett> Bez, goes back to WHAT "same screen"?
[15:55] <expunge> Bez: you're trying to do wubi?
[15:55] <justvaow> oops
[15:55] <justvaow> 13.04
[15:55] <frib> expunge, ssh/fs?
[15:56] <k1l_> justvaow: 13.04 is ut of support. you need to update to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[15:56] <cfhowlett> justvaow, 13.04 is dead and no longer supported - end of life.
[15:56] <[z]orgy> upadate to 14.04 ;)
[15:56] <justvaow> Is update a full reinstall or a quick update?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> justvaow, or you can  download 14.04.1 and clean install
[15:56] <[z]orgy> update*
[15:56] <justvaow> Will i lose all my stuff?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> justvaow, you cannot quick update.  you're out of the support window
[15:56] <Bez> screens of chossing what kind of installation i want. i am new to ubuntu so i dont know waht wubi stands for.
[15:57] <cfhowlett> Bez, "windows installer"
[15:57] <expunge> frib: mounting over ssh
[15:57] <Bez> windows installer??
[15:57] <k1l_> justvaow: its an update. but a backup is clever, no matter if you update or not
[15:57] <cfhowlett> Bez, did you use the windows/wubi installer?  yes or no ...
[15:57] <[z]orgy> you wont lose anything
[15:58] <Bez> no
[15:58] <ferrancelades> someone know how to create a dualboot with ubuntu on mac without using rEFI
[15:58] <expunge> ferrancelades: can use GRUB
[15:58] <expunge> I don't know the specifics, though =)
[15:58] <justvaow> cfhowlett, does this mean when i update from 13.04 to 13.10 i will lose all my data/files like its a clean install?
[15:58] <frib> expunge, i want to be able to browse my music collection from internet and stream songs on demand
[15:58] <frib> with a UI that maybe also exists for phone e.g.
[15:59] <cfhowlett> justvaow, if you don't format your /home you should be OK --- but you ARE going to back everything up first anyway.  right?  RIGHT?
[15:59] <expunge> frib: mmm
[15:59] <expunge> frib: there are some good walkthroughs for doing that with raspberry pis
[15:59] <frib> epxunge that's what i'm using
[15:59] <hualet_deepin> frib: cherrymusic?
[16:00] <justvaow> cfhowlett well the stuff i have on here isn't important it just took like like a full day to figure out how to install each app i have (skype/utorrent/hexchat)
[16:00] <frib> hualet_deepin, ill check it out thx
[16:00] <XepoofBNC> justvaow, apt
[16:00] <XepoofBNC> apt has all of these
[16:00] <justvaow> idk what apt is?
[16:00] <XepoofBNC> advanced packaging tool
[16:00] <XepoofBNC> it's a command line utility for downloading things
[16:00]  * expunge headdesks
[16:00] <XepoofBNC> sudo apt-get install skype hexchat
[16:01] <justvaow> "yousufshad@yousufpc:~$ cat /ect/issue
[16:01] <justvaow> cat: /ect/issue: No such file or directory
[16:01] <justvaow> "
[16:01] <XepoofBNC> ect/issue?
[16:01] <justvaow> oops sorry wrong chat
[16:01] <XepoofBNC> dat spelling
[16:01] <MarkyMan> hm...is it no possible to make the system partition bigger wwithout live cd..it is no PC..it is an android stick...
[16:01] <justvaow> "Run the update-manager application from the Unity Dash or a command line"
[16:01] <Bez> cfhowlett, may be i dont know that i'm using wubi... i described early exactly what i did. any help pls
[16:01] <justvaow> How do i run the update-manager these term are complex
[16:01] <XepoofBNC> sudo apt-get install skype hexchat : justvaow
[16:02] <XepoofBNC> and, ubuntu has transmission by default
[16:02] <hualet_deepin> justvaow: open a terminal, type 'update-manager' in and hit enter
[16:02] <justvaow> Ah okay thanks that would save a lot of time :)
[16:02] <justvaow> god its updating my steam and stuff whyyyyy
[16:02] <cfhowlett> Bez, describe what "stuck at the same screen" means.
[16:02] <XepoofBNC> BECAUSE YOU TOLD IT TO.
[16:03] <justvaow> NOOO i just typed update-manager
[16:03] <aantoon> after 2 days trying on my own, i need some help. did a fresh install ubuntu 12.04 32bit on a dell, has a 82865g integrated graphics controller. i can only start in recovery mode and only in a root shell. lshw gives "display unclaimed
[16:03] <XepoofBNC> update-manager...........
[16:03] <XepoofBNC> manages UPDATES..
[16:03]  * XepoofBNC headdesks
[16:03] <justvaow> well i needed to get into the settings i got it now thanks
[16:03] <hualet_deepin> justvaow: you see, *update*-manager
[16:03] <cfhowlett> XepoofBNC, breath, man, breath
[16:03] <XepoofBNC> I only offer tech support for people that have 1 year of terminal use
[16:04] <MarkyMan> Hello?
[16:04] <cfhowlett> MarkyMan, you are visible
[16:04] <justvaow> Oh, oops that would not include me then
[16:04] <k1l_> XepoofBNC: take a break to relax again. this is a beginners support channel, so dont freak out if someone doesnt understand all.
[16:04] <XepoofBNC> bai then
[16:05] <justvaow> Bye :)
[16:05] <MarkyMan> ok..sorry..but i still Work now 10 days...i´m at the end
[16:06] <justvaow> oo yaay its upgrading to 13.10
[16:06] <justvaow> See, i did that by myself, mostly
[16:06] <justvaow> :)
[16:06] <k1l_> justvaow: after that make the update to 14.04. then you have 5 years of time
[16:07] <justvaow> I shall :) k1l_ thanks for the help
[16:07] <justvaow> and you too cfhowlett
[16:07] <cfhowlett> justvaow, happy2help
[16:07] <xar> What's the best UML tool for Ubuntu ?
[16:08] <xar> What's the best UML tool for Ubuntu ?
[16:08] <aantoon> using internet from my laptop,
[16:08] <cfhowlett> xar, UML????
[16:08] <vamsi> 10.2.37.133
[16:08] <xar> cfhowlett, yes
[16:08] <justvaow> Unified modeling language
[16:09] <streulma> is it a known bug that Unity crashes (Dash) when browsing the dash and open apps?
[16:09] <kostkon> xar, start with dia. but there are others. just open the software centre, search for uml, read the descriptions, look at the screenshots etc.
[16:09] <xar> kostkon, dia doesn't generate code.
[16:09] <kostkon> xar, pick your favourite
[16:09] <kostkon> xar, oh you also want that
[16:09] <xar> kostkon, for sure
[16:10] <Bez> cfhowlett, when the machine boots from the usb i'm following the screens that ask me about the internet connection and if i want to install inside win7 or i want to replace the OS, and to complete the process of the installation there is a button restart the computer in order to in order to proceed. and when the machine is rebooted its start from the beginning... the same screens i mention
[16:10] <Bez> above.
[16:10] <cfhowlett> Bez, remove the USB and boot from the hard drvie
[16:11] <trijntje> Bez: that makes sense, if you keep booting from the usb the install starts again. So you have to remove the usb end then reboot
[16:12] <trijntje> streulma: you can file a bug by typing 'ubuntu-bug unity' in the terminal
[16:12] <Bez> trijntje, thx i'll try it.
[16:12] <trijntje> first trigger the bug, then do that command and follow the directions you get
[16:12] <trijntje> streulma:
[16:15] <yogeshsarwate> hi
[16:17] <[z]orgy> Does anyone use Xubuntu ?
[16:18] <streulma> ok
[16:18] <k1l_> [z]orgy: some do (and now? :) )
[16:18] <cfhowlett> [z]orgy, of course.  ask your REAL question
[16:18] <shubho> Ubuntu 14.04, File manager shows an external drive having a btrfs filesystem as mounted, even if unmounted and removed, anybody any ideas ?
[16:20] <xar> What's the best UML tool for Ubuntu ?
[16:20] <shubho> Ubuntu 14.04, File manager shows an external drive having a btrfs filesystem as mounted, even if unmounted and removed, anybody any ideas ? Even sudo umount /media/../mountpoint says device busy ??
[16:20] <[z]orgy> oh just to know... cause all my friends dont know it but it works fine on a 10 years old lappy
[16:22] <streulma> is there a proper way to update intel HD4000 drivers ?
[16:22] <streulma> not the Intel way or xorg-edgers
[16:22] <MarkyMan_> So, here i am...;-)
[16:23] <jhutchins> [z]orgy: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops/ <- you can assume that every one of those projects has users, ranging from perhaps a few dozen committed developers to hundreds of thousands of satisfied customers.
[16:24] <Blenda>  (linux demos) hi all, does someone know how to launch this: https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Linux_Demos , here i've dled the "realistic rendering demo". i tried to run the "realistic rendering" file, the icon shows loading progress, and nothing. Trying to launch the .pak gives nothing? What the Hell?!
[16:24] <xar> what's the best UML tool which includes code-generation, please?
[16:24] <jhutchins> streulma: Intel graphics drivers have been pretty stable for several years now.
[16:25] <streulma> jhutchins from where the glitches then? black blocks on Macbook Pro 13 inch 2012
[16:25] <thecha> hi everybody i need urgent help for my ubuntu 12 installation
[16:25] <jhutchins> Blenda: I think you'd have to ask the unreal folks about that.
[16:25] <thecha> pls
[16:25] <CodeGosu> hi there, if i copy single parition with ubuntu from 1 hard drive to another harddrive, after grub repair, whould it just work? do any parts in ubuntu config files bind to some specific device name that would prevent a stupid simple copy?
[16:26] <jhutchins> !macbook
[16:26] <eeee> CodeGosu: use dd
[16:26] <MarkyMan_> https://plus.google.com/+IanMORRISON/posts/P6TNn3sisa2
[16:26] <thecha> i have a live usb as an external OS
[16:26] <thecha> please
[16:26] <thecha> it is not a start usb
[16:26] <jhutchins> CodeGosu: No, that would work.  You would want to use something like clonezilla or a live disk so that you are not running from the partition you're copying.
[16:27] <jhutchins> thecha: You mean the USB does not boot?  How did you create it?
[16:28] <Blenda> jhutchins : yeah done but no answer for an hour
[16:29] <jhutchins> Blenda: I would expect that you would need to use their forums and/or mailing list, and expet a response time of days, not hours.
[16:30] <Blenda> jhutchins u're right, but at is a "simple" linux question, i was hoping help here.
[16:36] <eike_52n> Hi there. I am having problems with remmina running on ubuntu 14.04 and trying to connect to another 14.04 server instance via SSH. Error received is: "ssh_userauth_password: Wrong state during pending SSH call"
[16:36] <eike_52n> Is this a known problem?
[16:36] <nibbler_> eike_52n: normal ssh connection from commandline works fine?
[16:36] <eike_52n> yes
[16:37] <eike_52n> I am asking here before posting a bug report to launchpad, nibbler_
[16:39] <shubho> Ubuntu 14.04, File manager shows an external drive having a btrfs filesystem as mounted, even if unmounted and removed, anybody any ideas ?
[16:41] <Guest59141> menu
[16:44] <Bez> i tryed to reboot directly fron the hard drive but i didnt get any sign of ubuntu
[16:46] <[z]orgy> i gotta go, have fun! cyas ;)
[16:47] <Idealien> I'm getting GPG BADSIG errors on apt-get update - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8160877/ - which attempts like sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys [keysig] do not resolve. Looking for additional ways to resolve this issue.
[16:47] <tirdtoon> join #yii
[16:49] <YamakasY> guys which keyring am I missing ? Ign http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com:80 trusty Release                             No keyring installed in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/.
[16:49] <AlexPortable> I have some partitions, winre, boot, windows, ubuntu
[16:50] <AlexPortable> which one should i set to bootable to disable windows 8 built in boot manager?
[16:50] <AlexPortable> uefi bios
[16:50] <jhutchins> eike_52n: I'd see if they have any trobleshooting docs - check /usr/share/doc/remmina... and the project website.
[16:55] <eike_52n> jhutchins, I am currently building the latest version following https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/wiki/Compile-on-Ubuntu-14.04 to see if it is a ubuntu or remmina bug
[16:57] <TJ-> Idealien: Looks like the mirror is updating, with the Release and Release.gpg files not yet fully updated
[16:58] <TJ-> Idealien: The other cause is a local captive portal or HTTP proxy returning its own page without a 404 error, causing apt to save it as a valid Release file
[16:58] <Idealien> TJ: Thx - How can you tell eta to done and/or when it started? Been hitting this wall most of morning
[16:59] <Idealien> TJ: I suspect the latter scenario at my current location.
[16:59] <TJ-> Idealien: I dealt with a genuine bad signature on the .de mirror a few days ago; I'm actually just completing a program that verifies the signatures on all the mirrors worldwide
[17:00] <MrJones_> I sent an email to security@ubuntu.com which is officially announced on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ about CVE-2014-5461 and there is still no response (that was 4 days ago)
[17:00] <MrJones_> red hat and ubuntu both replied in less than 12 hours
[17:01] <MrJones_> err sorry red hat and debian
[17:01] <MrJones_> so maybe there is an issue with your security team
[17:01] <xar> I'm trying to install a software on ubuntu, after doing all the necassary (.desktop file, etc), I've found 2 apps having the same name into classicmenu-indicator. How do I to fix this, please ?
[17:02] <hamza_> hello
[17:02] <expunge> hi
[17:02] <hamza_> where areyou from ?
[17:03] <Idealien> TJ- How would I debug whether it is firewall or mirror issue?
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> xar  right click the menu, edit, delete one of the entries
[17:03] <hamza_> and what are you doing here ??
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> xar  or uncheck one, so it doenst show in the menu
[17:03] <xar> MonkeyDust, I can't right click on classicmenu-indicator
[17:04] <TJ-> Idealien: gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --verify <(wget -O - http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg 2>/dev/null) <(wget -O - http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg 2>/dev/null)
[17:04] <TJ-> gpg: Signature made Wed 25 Apr 2012 23:49:42 BST using DSA key ID 437D05B5
[17:04] <TJ-> gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[17:05] <wudo> I am looking for a new laptop for ubuntu OS
[17:05] <TJ-> Idealien: Sorry, there was a critical typo in the second filename - should have been "/Release" not "/Release.gpg" ! The command verifies the file on the server: "gpg: Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[17:05] <TJ-> "
[17:06] <popey> MrJones_: you can speak to the security team in #ubuntu-hardened
[17:06] <TJ-> Idealien: So, you've got a local proxy issue
[17:06] <wudo> any suggestion ?
[17:06] <hamza_> a cheap one i guess Wudo
[17:06] <hamza_> ???
[17:07] <xar> how to search a word on all of the files of my ubuntu system ?
[17:07] <wudo> no
[17:07] <hamza_> hhhhhh
[17:07] <PsynoKhi0> hey, do I need to use a 64bit version of Ubuntu to create a bootable USB of a 64bit ISO with Ubuntu's LiveUSB creator?
[17:07] <wudo> I don't care about much about money
[17:07] <hamza_> then any laptop can do it
[17:07] <xar> how to search a word on all of the files of my ubuntu system ?
[17:07] <wudo> But it has to just work with Linux out of box
[17:08] <hamza_> I mean holding the ubuntu system !
[17:08] <wudo> xar
[17:08] <wudo> do  man arc
[17:08] <wudo> ack
[17:09] <reversiblean> I'm experiencing slow boot times. This is causing the delay:
[17:09] <reversiblean> [   14.837398 <    8.990911>] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x00000b00-0x00000b07 conflicts with OpRegion 0x00000b00-0x00000b07 (\SM00) (20140424/utaddress-258)
[17:09] <reversiblean> [   19.477857 <    4.640459>] init: failsafe main process (601) killed by TERM signal
[17:09] <MrJones_> popey: thanks will do
[17:10] <wudo> d
[17:10] <rww> PsynoKhi0: no
[17:11] <genii> PsynoKhi0: All you need to do is just dd the ISO file to the USB stick/drive, it is a hybrid image that doesn't need any special converting to boot from USB
[17:11] <PsynoKhi0> rww, ok thank you
[17:11] <xar> how to search a word on all of the files of my ubuntu system ?
[17:12] <zimbres> xar, grep -R
[17:14] <Nic343> Hello! I upgraded to 14.04 and now everything is pretty much broken.
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Nic343  define "pretty much broken"
[17:16] <shubho> Ubuntu 14.04, File manager shows an external drive having a btrfs filesystem as mounted, even if unmounted and removed, anybody any ideas ?
[17:16] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: When I login I just get my desktop image, but no icons or tiles; I tried 'sudo startx' in console, got my desktop files, but nothing else. Then I rebooted, and now when I try to login the screen goes blank for a second, then returns me to the login screen. I'm pretty new at this, so sorry if I'm a little noobish.
[17:16] <expunge> xar: will take forever
[17:17] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: I tried running the boot repair utility off USB (results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8160316/).
[17:17] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: Any help would be super appreciated!
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> Nic343  and what video card is that
[17:19] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: Asus x16
[17:20] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: Sorry, Asus x1650
[17:20] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: Between the login loop and the non-loading desktop I'm pretty lost
[17:20] <Idealien> TJ- Along with some permissions errors I do get gpg: Signature made Wed 25 Apr 2012 10:49:42 PM UTC using DSA key ID 437D05B5 which matches what you suggested....
[17:21] <TJ-> Nic343: If you used "sudo startx" the "/home/$USER/,Xauthority" file will likely now be owned by 'root'. "sudo rm /home/$USER/.Xauthority" should allow the log-in to succeed again, but you'll still have the Unity disappearing panel to deal with
[17:21] <ty812> Does anyone here use everpad successfully?
[17:22] <netlar> My google account is not connecting in Evolution. The program is getting the login information from the Online accounts section of Ubuntu.  Should I be adding the account into Evolution directly instead?
[17:22] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: Stupid question but I need to swap $USER with my actual username right
[17:22] <TJ-> Idealien: You might just need to remove APT's files in "/var/lib/apt/lists/" and redo "apt-get update" to fetch them again... after ensuring that no HTTP proxy is interfering
[17:23] <nucter> Are there free software drivers for Intel HD 4400 GPU?
[17:23] <philinux> nucter;~ yep from intel
[17:23] <Idealien> TJ- Thanks. I commented out extras for the moment which it seems is giving primary offense and apt-get update completes successful. Will re-test on another network later for full resolution.
[17:23] <tim__> I'm having a Problem with my Keyboard: When I press the right arrow, it types ,*-    How can I fix this? Also the Numpad goes crazy
[17:24] <Nic343> MonkeyDust: My computer is dual-boot; I'm in my windows install right now. I'll have to reboot, try things out, and come back to IRC. :D
[17:24] <TJ-> Nic343: When a user is logged in, the shell sets the variable "USER" to the username, so using "USER" will put the correct username into the shell command as it was given to you, without you needing to change it in any way
[17:24] <philinux> nucter;~ search for intel linux driver
[17:24] <nucter> philinux: where can i get them?
[17:24] <Nic343> TJ-: oh ok thanks.
[17:25] <e> hello
[17:25] <TJ-> Nic343: "$USER" simply replaces "$USER" with the value of the "USER" variable; in my case it'd result in "/home/tj/.Xauthority"
[17:25] <ObrienDave> nucter, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[17:26] <Nic343> TJ-: Okay. Should I try fixing the login loop issue, then return to IRC and see if we can do anything about the missing Unity panel bit?
[17:26] <Guest76653> ok
[17:26] <expunge> e: terrible nick
[17:26] <TJ-> Nic343: Yes... this is the easy fix! The Unity disappearing panels is affecting many users and so far no definitive solution for all causes has been found
[17:27] <Nic343> TJ-: Oh dear. I have a lot of work over in that install...
[17:27] <Guest62403> HOLA
[17:27] <andlabs> Hi. How do I DISABLE kde wallet ssh forwarding so I can enter myu ssh key on the command line? Thanks.
[17:27] <Nic343> TJ-: Anyway I will restart, boot into ubuntu, and report back on the login loop.
[17:28] <TJ-> Nic343: OK :)
[17:28] <philinux> nucter;~ https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[17:28] <desperate_joe> good evening... absolute noob... wine and civ4 problem... installed wine 1.7 yesterday, i succeeded in installing civ4 with wine in ubuntu 14, civ does not run
[17:29] <expunge> desperate_joe: read this: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10158
[17:30] <nucter> philinux ObrienDave: thank you both, now trying to figure out how to install from source
[17:30] <philinux> nucter;~ why source?
[17:30] <ObrienDave> nucter, there are instructions on the 01.org site
[17:30] <desperate_joe> have read that, did not understand it
[17:31] <nucter> coz im running debian
[17:31] <expunge> desperate_joe: then you're fairly SOL, unless playonlinux covers civ4
[17:31] <desperate_joe> sol?
[17:31] <nucter> so ubuntu insller might not work on this machine
[17:32] <ObrienDave> nucter, ask in #debian
[17:32] <philinux> nucter;~ try install with gdebi
[17:32] <nucter> i did
[17:32] <ObrienDave> and why did debian send you here?
[17:32] <philinux> nucter;~ save file then use gdebi
[17:33] <desperate_joe> @expunge? what's sol?
[17:33] <nucter> not many willing to help guess my quests are too noobish
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> nucter  why did you come to the ubuntu channel if you're running something else?
[17:33] <TJ-> nucter: You likely need a v3.15 kernel, from the Ubuntu mainline kernel archive
[17:33] <philinux> TJ-;~ or older driver version
[17:33] <expunge> desperate_joe: supré outta luck
[17:34] <ObrienDave> no i run the latest Intel drivers on 3.13 kernel
[17:34] <nucter> i have kernal 3.14
[17:34] <desperate_joe> @expunge: the link mentions making a script... what's that/how?
[17:34] <expunge> desperate_joe: either it says or it doesn't
[17:35] <desperate_joe> it says what? don't understand the question right now
[17:35] <nucter> MonkeyDust coz ubuntu shares the most with deb? n im new to this stuff sorry if it offended you
[17:35] <xar> How to look for files in a specific directory which contain a specific word, please?
[17:35] <philinux> nucter;~ gdebi willl check dependancies
[17:36] <Nic343> TJ-, MonkeyDust: Okay! The login loop issue has been resolved. I can log in to my.... desktop background. When I do, I get the following message: "System Program Problem Detected" and asks if I should report it. Then just my mouse cursor and background.
[17:36] <OerHeks> xar, cd /to/the/folder # grep -r "thewordyouwant" *
[17:38] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ gdebi shows this error intel-linux-graphics-installer: misplaced-extra-member-in-deb _gpgorigin (unexpected member at position 3)
[17:38] <underplay> i using amarok 2.8.0 and when i search in the playlist he wrong entry gets selected and the one i searched fo doesnt show up in the reuslts
[17:39] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ Lintian finished with exit status 1
[17:39] <xar> OerHeks, thank you !
[17:39] <Nic343> TJ-, MonkeyDust: I should mention I tried googling the problem and following instructions for something called Unity-Tweak-Tool but that did not work.
[17:40] <Nic343> More generally: if I am having a problem post-upgrade where, after login, I only have my desktop background, what should I do? Are any of the suggestions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login liable to make things worse?
[17:41] <hemc> i guess alot of system admin here ,i want to create some crawlers to fecth whois dat from sites like godaddy  and storeit on my db  , just like domintools.com , can anyone please guide
[17:41] <ObrienDave> philinux, sounds like a bad d/l, try again
[17:42] <MarkyMan_> so i have not solve my Problem with the Partition
[17:42] <MarkyMan_> can anybody help me?
[17:43] <expunge> MarkyMan_: /usr/bin/fixproblem
[17:43] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ same error in the lintian output
[17:43] <OerHeks> Nic343, fix1 and fix2 seems valid to me, i think fix1 should do the trick
[17:43] <MarkyMan_> expunge..What?
[17:43] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ maybe a bad gpg key
[17:43] <expunge> MarkyMan_: hrmm?
[17:43] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ this is the 1.0.6 version
[17:44] <ObrienDave> philinux, i dunno, i have no problems with the installer in gdebi
[17:44] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ any idea what that error means
[17:44] <ObrienDave> let me run it again
[17:44] <Nic343> OerHeks: Will reboot into ubuntu and see what happens
[17:45] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ its under the lintian tab
[17:45] <Guest67869> need help installing web cam ubuntu 14......two days of searching and nothing working....cam is  Creative PD 1120 ...   PLEASE  dont send me links,  I have tried everything
[17:46] <expunge> Guest67869: what's lsusb say about it?
[17:46] <Guest67869> ex
[17:46] <Guest67869> expunge,   hang on
[17:48] <desperate_joe> "NO_PUBKEY A902DDA375E52366" What does this mean?
[17:48] <Guest67869> expunge,  sees the camera but it dosnt show in devices  and i tried the terminal command for vlc  but nothing
[17:48] <expunge> Guest67869: hrmm?
[17:48] <sarink> rm -r /path/to/dir/*  will fail if 'dir' is empty? is there some other command that will keep going?
[17:48] <ObrienDave> desperate_joe, it means you should add the public GPG key
[17:48] <expunge> sarink: what now?
[17:48] <desperate_joe> What is that and how to do it?
[17:48] <expunge> sarink: what is it you want to do
[17:48] <Guest67869> expunge, not familiar with that...please explain  thank you
[17:49] <zacharyigielman> what?
[17:49] <expunge> Guest67869: can you share the output of 'lsusb' ?
[17:49] <sarink> expunge: i want to empty all files from a directory, but that directory may already be empty, and if it is i do not want the command to fail
[17:49] <ObrienDave> desperate_joe, try researching it
[17:49] <Guest67869> expunge, it is 7 lines,,, can I share here?
[17:49] <expunge> sarink: why, using && ?
[17:49] <desperate_joe> tried it, but did not find a step by step guide
[17:49] <sarink> expunge: yes
[17:49] <expunge> Guest67869: dpaste.com
[17:50] <Guest67869> expunge, hang on
[17:50] <expunge> sarink: you can test this yourself, but && will not fail
[17:50] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ did u see that error?
[17:50] <sarink> expunge: it is...
[17:50] <expunge> sarink: what is what?
[17:50] <Guest67869> expunge, http://dpaste.com/1ZPF25A
[17:50] <expunge> sarink: oh, use -f
[17:50] <expunge> sorry I use -f out of habit
[17:50] <philinux> desperate_joe;~ see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221323
[17:50] <sarink> expunge: ahh. perfect. thanks
[17:50] <zacharyigielman> try 'find . -type f -delete'
[17:51] <ObrienDave> philinux, i get no such error
[17:51] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ is that the 1.0.6 64 bit file
[17:51] <ObrienDave> yes
[17:51] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ odd then
[17:52] <expunge> Guest67869: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=926101
[17:52] <jaccob> How can you do a recursive function call for an anonymous function. I have myanonfunc = func(){ ... myanonfunc(); }; but it doesn't work
[17:52] <ObrienDave> philinux, trying to get the terminal output, give me a minute
[17:52] <ronaldsmaziris> hello, what is kernoops process and user?
[17:53] <desperate_joe> @philinux: thanks, resolved
[17:54] <Guest67869> expunge, unable to locate package
[17:55] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ http://ibin.co/1YIKDYMLSmT1
[17:55] <expunge> Guest67869: keep looking then
[17:56] <ronaldsmaziris> hello, what is kernoops process and user
[17:56] <ronaldsmaziris> ?
[17:57] <expunge> ronaldsmaziris: dpkg -l | grep -i kerneloops
[17:58] <ObrienDave> philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8161382/
[18:00] <Nic343> Hello, I am back!
[18:00] <Nic343> I have tried fixes (1) and (2) from this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login
[18:00] <expunge> wb
[18:01] <Nic343> Unfortunately, it did not work. In both cases the side panel appeared, but the computer immediately froze up with significant digital artifacts on the desktop background image and the "system program problem detected" error message
[18:01] <eeee> Nic343: did you try to remove the compiz config files?
[18:01] <Nic343> I went back to console with Alt-Ctrl-F1 and rebooted.
[18:02] <mystogan> hello....my wallpaper keeps changing when i start my laptop?why is that?
[18:02] <eeee> Nic343: nevermind
[18:02] <Nic343> eeee: I'm not sure if I have? Sorry if that sounds dumb. I literally have no idea what I am doing. I am following console instructions to the letter and hoping it magically fixes whatever is wrong.
[18:03] <eeee> Nic343: ok, good luck
[18:04] <mystogan> hello eeee....my wallpaper keeps changing when i start my laptop?why is that?
[18:04] <mystogan> ubuntu 14.04
[18:05] <Nic343> I'm getting pretty desperate. Anyone have any experience with these kinds of problems?
[18:06] <eeee> Nic343: it happens sometimes, the guide you linked to has pretty much most of the solutions
[18:06] <marianne> can anyone recommend a decent app for torrent downloads for 14.04?
[18:06] <eeee> mystogan: sorry, no idea
[18:06] <mystogan> qbittorrent,@marianne
[18:06] <Blenda> marianne : transmission
[18:06] <Guest67869> expunge, http://dpaste.com/19YZWST
[18:07] <mystogan> marianne:qbitorent
[18:07] <marianne> thanks guys, found it in the software center
[18:08] <notore> if you use ls -l it shows file creation time? if you use find -ctime +1 it checks against last file modified time?
[18:08] <mystogan> yosh
[18:08] <Nic343> eeee: Well, I will have to see what can be done, then.
[18:09] <mystogan> marianne,transmission must be already installed ,no need to download
[18:09] <Nic343> Is there a phone support hotline from Canonical? Like, I am willing to pay money for live support?
[18:09] <ronaldsmaziris> TNx, expunge
[18:09] <marianne> mystogan: yes it is already installed...coolio
[18:10] <eeee> Nic343: i don't know, i'm sure people on this channel can help out
[18:11] <notore> if you use ls -l it shows file creation time? if you use find -ctime +1 it checks against last file modified time?
[18:11] <mystogan> nic343,whats wrong?
[18:11] <eeee> notore: yeah, i thought you were giving someone advice, what are you trying to do?
[18:12] <Nic343> mystogan: I upgraded to 14.04 and after login I only have my desktop background, no panels, no icons.
[18:12] <mystogan> ok
[18:12] <mystogan> do you have windows?
[18:12] <mystogan> dual booted?
[18:12] <jhutchins> Nic343: Try (creating and) logging in as a different user.
[18:12] <Nic343> mystogan: tried some console fixes, brought the sidepanel back but also froze everything.
[18:12] <notore> eeee: i want to find files which werent modified for X days and then delete them and in order to test if it works i wanted to use touch command to change last file modified time but i cant
[18:13] <mystogan> nic343.do you have windows dual booted?
[18:13] <notore> touch --date="2012-01-01" file doesn't change last modified time
[18:13] <Nic343> mystogan: I am in my windows install right now (dual boot)
[18:13] <jhutchins> notore: Use the find command.
[18:13] <mystogan> which graphic drivers do you have?
[18:13] <notore> jhutchins: use find command to change last modified date of a file?
[18:13] <Nic343> jhutchins: I'll try that, not sure I *can* create a new user. Login is as guest has the same effectr
[18:13] <OerHeks> Nic343, windows 8 ?
[18:13] <mystogan> nic343,which graphic drivers do you have?
[18:14] <mystogan> nic343,amd or nvidia?
[18:14] <Nic343> OerHeks: eh, WinXP, I never use it except in emergencies!
[18:14] <jhutchins> Nic343: Had you logged in as guest before the upgrade?
[18:14] <Nic343> mystogan: it's an old asusx1650 --- it's a work computer for LaTeX etc. not gaming
[18:14] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ ok so installs ok despite lintian error
[18:14] <Nic343> jhutchins: nope!
[18:14] <notore> so it impossible?
[18:15] <mystogan> nic343,go to windows and try reinstalling the drivers....
[18:15] <mystogan> worked with mine
[18:15] <llorephie> Help please, error and sources.list content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8161487/
[18:15] <mystogan> the graphic drivers i mean
[18:15] <jhutchins> Nic343: ok, so there probably wasn't a profile to be "upgraded" by the new install.  This points to it being a system problme rather than a problem with your user settings/customization.
[18:15] <Nic343> mystogan: the video drivers? tried that, yeah.
[18:16] <jhutchins> mystogan: Why would graphics drivers affect some components of the desktop but not others?
[18:16] <ObrienDave> philinux, i dunno, i get no lintian errors
[18:16] <Nic343> jhutchins: It seems like the upgrade broke video card support? I really don't know.
[18:16] <geirha> notore: mtime is last time the file content was modified, ctime is last time the file metadata was changed (e.g. chmod), atime is last time the file was accessed.
[18:17] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ what does gdebi show under your lintiant output tab
[18:17] <ObrienDave> nothing
[18:17] <mystogan> jhutchins,i had the same problem once....later i got a message called the system is working in low graphics mode.....spent days to resolve it.....then i tried this
[18:17] <geirha> notore: touch --date='2012-01-01' file  changes the mtime
[18:17] <mystogan> and worked
[18:17] <Nic343> mystogan, jhutchins: i tried some other console commands and got this message: 'dconf: cannot autolaunch d-bus without X11 $DISPLAY"
[18:17] <Nic343> no idea what that means!
[18:17] <desperate_joe> good night all, thanks for the help
[18:17] <notore> geirha: and ls -l show mtime?
[18:17] <geirha> notore: correct
[18:18] <notore> geirha: does mv command changed metadata, ctime?
[18:18] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ thats odd i got three messages there
[18:18] <notore> changes
[18:18] <llorephie> Anybody?... Appeared after # dpkg --add-architecture i386
[18:18] <mystogan> nic 343,did you try compiz or unity?
[18:18] <geirha> notore: ls -lc will show ctime
[18:18] <ObrienDave> philinux, http://i.imgur.com/rFI7Kv3.png
[18:19] <Nic343> mystogan: I tried fixes (1) and (2) from http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login and also ran unity-tweak-tool from console.
[18:19] <geirha> notore: or use the stat command to see all at once
[18:19] <Nic343> mystogan: to be honest... I'm not 100% clear on teh difference between compiz and unity... sorry for being such a filthy casual. :\
[18:19] <philinux> ObrienDave;~ ah maybe cos its already installed maybe?
[18:19] <notore> oh stat is nice
[18:19] <ObrienDave> i did a reinstall
[18:20] <mystogan> i am sorry dude.....i tried my best
[18:20] <geirha> notore: if you mv within the same filesystem, only atime will be updated
[18:20] <expunge> Nic343: compiz is a window manager, unity is a frontend to gnome that utilizes compiz
[18:20] <eeee> notore: find /path/to/dir -mtime +<days> -exec rm -rf {} \;
[18:20] <ObrienDave> philinux, i did a reinstall, yes that could be
[18:20] <eeee> notore: that should find all delete all files modified after <days> , but test it out first before using it
[18:20] <expunge> notore: might want to run that without the -exec first
[18:20] <mystogan> need help for nic343,somebody attend
[18:20] <expunge> heh
[18:20] <eeee> replace rm -rf {} with echo {}
[18:20] <notore> geirha: i just moved file to the parent directory and only ctime was changed and i suppose its same filesystem
[18:21] <Nic343> Expunge: thanks. I realize my problem is vague, which is compounded by my ignorance of the guts of the OS.
[18:21] <expunge> Nic343: no worries
[18:21] <geirha> notore: oops, sorry, yes, I meant ctime
[18:21] <Nic343> I'll try this out? http://itsfoss.com/fix-unity-freezes-after-login-ubuntu-14-04/
[18:22] <geirha> notore: if it's between two filesystems, mv will do the equivalent of cp and rm instead
[18:22] <Nic343> Otherwise I just need to backup some stuff from the filesystem and reinstall from scratch I guess.
[18:22] <notore> eeee: i want to delete all files starting the time since they were moved to archive folder so i should use ctime
[18:22] <Nic343> Windows doesn't "see" my Ubuntu documents though---anyway around that?
[18:23] <mystogan> nic343,i dont think that will work.....but give it a try
[18:23] <mystogan> nic343 ,backup through ubuntu terminal
[18:23] <ObrienDave> Nic343, there is a "hack" to read ext file systems under Windows. i don't know anything more about it
[18:24] <Nic343> mystogan: the closest I got was with sudo startx that gave me my desktop icons and filesystem access but no sidepanel. I will try and move my files using that method. Is there a good link with instructions for backing up via terminal?
[18:25] <llorephie> Nic343: for view Linux filesystem in Win try use Paragon ExtFS (free)
[18:25] <eeee> Nic343: try to reinstall lightdm, sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[18:25] <ObrienDave> Nic343, have you tried installing another DE, uninstalling unity and reinstalling?
[18:25] <mystogan> obriendave,it didnt work
[18:26] <ObrienDave> k
[18:26] <Nic343> llorephie: thanks, will have a look at that
[18:26] <Nic343> eeee: added to the list of things to try!
[18:26] <llorephie> Help please, error and sources.list content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8161487/
[18:26] <llorephie> Appeared after `dpkg --add-architecture i386` (try to make own install LiveCD with i386-packages :-) )
[18:27] <Nic343> ObrienDave: sorry what is acronym DE?
[18:27] <Beldar> Nic343, The supported way to share between the two OS is a ntfs partition that both can access.
[18:27] <ObrienDave> Desktop Environment
[18:27] <dmblue> Desktop Environment
[18:27] <mystogan> nic343,the last option is try 12.04,eventhough its not, related give a try
[18:28]  * ObrienDave agrees with Beldar 
[18:28] <Nic343> dmblue: thanks--so the idea here is install another DE via console and see?
[18:28] <Nic343> mystogan: I'd love to revert back to 12.04 at this point :P
[18:29] <ObrienDave> Nic343, the idea is to have a DE gui, purge Unity and reinstall
[18:29] <ObrienDave> *add a new
[18:29] <mystogan> yes purge unity again and reinstall
[18:30] <Nic343> ObrienDave: Okay so maybe try like apt-get install lubuntu-desktop  something like that?
[18:30] <mystogan> sudo apt-get install unity
[18:31] <Nic343> Heck if lubuntu works and it's not ugly I will 100% keep it
[18:31] <ObrienDave> Nic343, i would recommend xubuntu-desktop. i'm partial ;P
[18:31]  * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu ;P
[18:32]  * llorephie runs Ubuntu Studio :D
[18:32] <Nic343> Okay, thanks everyone. I will reboot the PC, and try installing a new DE to see what happens.
[18:32] <Nic343> Will login to report back if it doesn't work, or if it does work, just to say thanks :D
[18:32] <mystogan> nic343,all the best
[18:32] <ObrienDave> we'll be here, good luck
[18:33] <mystogan> did ubuntu get released to mobiles??
[18:33] <ObrienDave> not yet
[18:34] <mystogan> obriendave,will they??
[18:34] <llorephie> mystogan: yes =)
[18:34] <mystogan> 14.04?
[18:34] <llorephie> mystogan: 14.10, I think...
[18:34] <mystogan> awesome
[18:35] <ObrienDave> mystogan, when it's READY ;))
[18:35] <llorephie> People... What is it =_=
[18:35] <llorephie> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-i383/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[18:35] <genii> mystogan: The Meizu MX3 will be currently shipping with Android but will offer an OTA update for Ubuntu Touch
[18:35] <mystogan> yeah..lets wait
[18:35] <dmblue> i will stick to android on my phone
[18:36] <mystogan> ubuntu will dominate
[18:36] <dmblue> mystogan: you really think so?
[18:36] <mystogan> yeah....
[18:36] <llorephie> mystogan: not sure. Ubuntu need much hardware resources
[18:36] <dmblue> why do you say that?
[18:37] <mystogan> yeah..once hardware resources are available
[18:37] <llorephie> mystogan: Only in Linux community.
[18:37] <mystogan> yes
[18:37] <mystogan> true
[18:37] <mystogan> is there terminal for android?
[18:37] <dmblue> i don think so, i really dont think there is room for anymore mobile os
[18:38] <dmblue> samsung is taking a big chance with their new OS
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> dmblue  take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[18:38] <mystogan> i installed python console in android .....and the console worked
[18:38] <mystogan> like terminal
[18:38] <llorephie> mystogan: gg. Android is half-linux system
[18:39] <mystogan> ohk
[18:39] <llorephie> mystogan: So, much features available
[18:39] <llorephie> Grr-h. There is really nothing in Google =\
[18:39] <mystogan> might be,dont know much about android
[18:40] <Gatis> Think about Jesus better
[18:40] <llorephie> Gatis: Agnostic ;)
[18:40] <Gatis> Don't need to fight about unimportant things
[18:41] <mystogan> any more queries??
[18:41] <llorephie> Gatis: I neeeeeeed this custom install ISO...
[18:41] <Gatis> no
[18:41] <Gatis> Youcan live without it
[18:41] <Gatis> You just need Jesus, daily bread and clothes
[18:42] <mystogan> anyone uses vi editor??
[18:42] <mystogan> gedit vs vi?
[18:42] <bekks> mystogan: Just ask your actual question.
[18:42] <llorephie> Gatis: Can`t... On work yesterday I need to install Ubuntu Studio on 25 monoblocks... Without Internet
[18:42] <llorephie> mystogan: vim
[18:42] <mystogan> okies
[18:43] <Kerameki> gedit
[18:43] <igurd> vim has a steep learning curve
[18:43] <ObrienDave> notepad++
[18:43] <igurd> but it's better.
[18:43] <ObrienDave> oops, wrong OS ;P
[18:43] <mystogan> notepad++,windows
[18:43] <Gatis> im tired of technology
[18:44] <Gatis> I hate it
[18:44] <dmblue> me too
[18:44] <Gatis> i pray God help me to rest from it
[18:44] <llorephie> ObrienDave: GitHub atom ;)
[18:44] <ObrienDave> good, then go away
[18:44] <ObrienDave> llorephie, LOL
[18:44] <Gatis> Sick sick sick sick sick scik of technology
[18:45] <Gatis> I wish world would be 1 day without thecnology
[18:45] <genii> Gatis: Please remain on topic for this channel
[18:45] <mystogan> yes 1 day
[18:45] <Blenda> #chitchat
[18:45] <Kerameki> always can be an Amish
[18:45] <Gatis> satan is destroyin mankind trough internet.. IN fact internet is the cause why americans have lost faith in God.
[18:46] <ObrienDave> Gatis, and yet you're using technology to rant OT
[18:46] <Gatis> YEEES
[18:46] <Blenda> (...)
[18:46] <mystogan> LOL
[18:46] <Gatis> stupid techno
[18:46] <genii> Gatis: This is your last warning to remain on topic of Ubuntu support or be removed
[18:46] <Gatis> genial, can you please start think like a human not a robot, please?
[18:46] <Blenda> soon we will read about conspiracy theories
[18:47] <llorephie> Grr-h... So close =_=
[18:47] <Gatis> please, admins are like robots and bots programmed
[18:47] <Blenda> Gatis, whats your purpose here, being banned?
[18:47] <ObrienDave> people, this is Ubuntu SUPPORT, not anti-technology rant room
[18:47] <Beldar> ignore trolling don't enable it
[18:48] <genii> If anyone else feels like discussing their hate of technology or the part of religion in it, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic and not here
[18:48] <mystogan> roger that,genii
[18:48] <Blenda> can also create your own chan
[18:49] <nullsign> can you enable traffic counters on virtual interfaces?
[18:49] <nullsign> so they are split from the parent interface counters?
[18:49] <dmblue> nullsign: yes
[18:49] <nullsign> tell me how please :)
[18:49] <Ojo> does anyone know why I would get unable to read /etc/init.d/teamspeak when doing update-rc.d teamspeak defaults ? teamspeak is a script I put in root folder
[18:49] <mystogan> hello....my wallpaper keeps changing when i start my laptop ....ubuntu 14.04?why is that?
[18:51] <Blenda> mystogan: maybe you installed a background randomizer or something?
[18:51] <dmblue>  nullsign what version are you running
[18:51] <mystogan> blenda,how do i know that?
[18:51] <nullsign> ah crap. im running centos on this box
[18:51] <nullsign> thought it was ubuntu
[18:51] <genii> mystogan: I found an old bug report that if your wallpapers are on a different drive this can happen
[18:51] <nullsign> maybe the method is similar tho?
[18:51] <dmblue> heh.
[18:51] <Blenda> mystogan: same here
[18:51] <dmblue> sorry not sure about centos
[18:52] <nullsign> how do you do it in ubuntu?
[18:52] <mystogan> genii,its in ubuntu pictures
[18:52] <dmblue> you can use ipac-ng
[18:52] <carbonkey> anyone want to field a vague and potentially frustrating question?
[18:52] <genii> mystogan: Hm, probably not that then.
[18:52] <dmblue> carbonkey: shoot
[18:53] <nullsign> dmblue: so there is no native way to make virtual interfaces have traffic counters/
[18:53] <nullsign> it requires thirdparty s/w?
[18:53] <carbonkey> well, my grandfather's computer is running ubuntu 12.04
[18:53] <Blenda> awesome
[18:53] <carbonkey> and, remotely, i am trying to figure out what problem he's having and find a solution
[18:53] <dmblue> nullsign: that is the way i have done it in the past
[18:53] <mystogan> and one more thing..whenever my laptop starts i get an error report......EVERYTIME
[18:53] <mystogan> why?
[18:53] <Beldar> carbonkey, state it all in one post without the extra info in detail.
[18:54] <carbonkey> sure, sorry
[18:54] <eeee> mystogan: pressing details could reveal the mystery?
[18:54] <Beldar> carbonkey, Cool gets lost otherwise.
[18:54] <mystogan> eeee, i will check
[18:55] <carbonkey> he failed a upgrade installation from 12.04 to 14, and of course he closed the error prompt, but i did get him to send some screenshots.  His desktop icons have yellow checkers across them (his hotbar icons rather) and after a restart they went solid light blue
[18:56] <samthewildone> Got this error when trying to partition/wipe my usb "http://pastebin.com/cG25BKwR"
[18:56] <carbonkey> other than that the system functionality seems to be unnafected except for an issue with skype audio
[18:56] <samthewildone> Trying to wipe my usb drive, turn it into fat32.
[18:56] <dmblue> carbonkey: my guess is an issue with graphics driver that is affecting the DE (Desktop Environment)
[18:57] <Beldar> carbonkey, Run a sudo apt-get -f install to make sure the upgrade basically finished and run a rest on the unity/compiz and load any graphic drivers needed.
[18:57] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, ok, we'll try to fix one thing at a time
[18:57] <Beldar> reset* carbonkey
[18:57] <mystogan> yes DE problem....
[18:57] <eeee> mystogan: apport, the error checking program, can be disabled safely btw, by editing /etc/default/apport and setting it to 1, i think
[18:57] <dmblue> does anybody know of a way to make terminal windows snap with each other
[18:58] <mystogan> snap??
[18:58] <eeee> dmblue: tile?
[18:58] <carbonkey> i'm sorry for my unfamiliarity with the linux/unix environment but, is that something I can easily do remotely?  I am very doubtful that I could get him to run that over the phone
[18:59] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, get him to run xchat and join us here
[19:00] <mystogan> eeee, set this to 0 to disable apport, or to 1 to enable it
[19:00] <mystogan> # you can temporarily override this with
[19:00] <mystogan> # sudo service apport start force_start=1
[19:00] <mystogan> enabled=1
[19:00] <mystogan> eeee,thats how it is,..
[19:00] <dmatt> Hi, I want to migrate from 2 hdd install (/ and encrypted /home) to one ssd install with two partitions. If I dd partitions to new ssd, will encrypted /home partition still work?
[19:00] <eeee> ok, set to 0,
[19:01] <mystogan> ok
[19:01] <dmblue> i guess you can always use CTRL+windowskey +arrow keys
[19:01] <carbonkey> I could hardly get the screenshots out of him, i'm almost 100% certain that he would not be able to do anything from his end.  He is over 90 now and my uncle got him this linux box.  I'm in a pinch here trying to fix it without getting my grandpa all worked up
[19:01] <dmblue> can you ssh into the machine?
[19:03] <carbonkey> can I? Now is the time to state that I am not very solid on any of the things mentioned so far.  I do know what ssh is but I have only done it a few times to log in to a school computer and not in a long while. :(
[19:03] <xar> How to add a Skype indicator, please?
[19:03] <Beldar> carbonkey, Someone should go there with a 14.04 disc at the least and a backup media and fix it. You're using about the worst way of fixing it for his satifaction.
[19:04] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, how far away is he?
[19:04] <xar> How to add a Skype indicator, please?
[19:04] <ObrienDave> !patience | xar
[19:04] <Beldar> xar, Should be one when on in a panel, what desktop and release are you running.
[19:04] <xar> ubottu, i did
[19:04] <carbonkey> I know :(  I'm stepping on eggshells because i'm pretty sure he doesn't want any of our relatives that actually live nearby him to know that he's having trouble with his machine.  If getting them to help is the only real solution then I'll just pursue asking them about it.
[19:05] <carbonkey> he's in florida, i'm in massachusetts
[19:05] <mystogan> secure shell-ssh
[19:05] <xar> Beldar, Unity 14.04 LTS
[19:05] <xar> Beldar, Unity - Ubuntu14.04 LTS
[19:05] <samthewildone> help...
[19:05] <samthewildone> Trying to wipe my usb drive, turn it into fat32.
[19:05] <samthewildone> Got this error when trying to partition/wipe my usb "http://pastebin.com/cG25BKwR"
[19:06] <carbonkey> it's okay if you tell me that i'm wasting my time asking here because of my situation.  I pretty much expected that answer, I just held out hope.
[19:06] <Beldar> xar, So you want a icon to launch it or see it in the top panel when on?
[19:06] <xar> Beldar, yup
[19:06] <Beldar> xar, tHAT WAS TWO QUESTIONS.
[19:06] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, no, you're cool. i don't know about ssh
[19:06] <Beldar> oops sorry for the caps
[19:07] <mystogan> ssh for secure data communiation
[19:07] <xar> Beldar, I want to display an icon on the top bar (the indicator not a shortcut)
[19:07] <mystogan> its a cryptographic n/w
[19:07] <Beldar> xar, when on it should show there does it?
[19:08] <carbonkey> so should i probably give up on a remote fix and just get my relatives involved?
[19:08] <xar> Beldar, I get nothing on the top bar related to skype
[19:08] <Ririshi> heya
[19:08] <nidalr> Hello.. How is nvidia optimus support on 14.04 ... should i install the proprietary drivers? If so which version? Should i install Bumblebee or Optirun?
[19:08] <Beldar> somewhere anyway xar, I don't use unity.
[19:08] <Ririshi> how do I search for a certain part of hardware? (eg gpus only or soundcards only)
[19:09] <Ririshi> (i mean on my own pc of course)
[19:09] <xar> How to add a Skype indicator, please?
[19:09] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, if i knew more about ssh, i would try to help you. Anyone?
[19:09] <Beldar> xar, Communication is about the subtle use of words and understanding, have you noticed I 'm using a when off or on for skype?
[19:09] <mystogan> ririshi,external hardware in settings
[19:09] <dmblue> thats a tough one to answer.. if he is connected to a router or, his ssh port may not be open
[19:10] <Ririshi> mystogan, doesn't exist?
[19:10] <xar> Beldar, nope
[19:10] <mystogan> ,ririshi,what doesnt exist?the hardware?
[19:11] <iiie> What should I check if I can't change settings after upgrading?  to 14.04, I've checked permission in my home directory, I seem to own everything
[19:11] <Ririshi> mystogan, well.. system settings > external hardware
[19:12] <Beldar> xar, Do you see and indicator anywhere for skype when you have it on, not talking just running?
[19:12] <mystogan> yes,some hardware dont get detected....
[19:12] <Ririshi> mystogan, I mean the tab external hardware doesn't exist in system settings
[19:12] <xar> Beldar, I don't see any indicator when I run Skype
[19:13] <Beldar> xar, Not even in the left side panel?
[19:13] <carbonkey> Beldar, what does the -f flag do in the apt-get?
[19:13] <xar> Beldar, in the left side yes. But not on the top bar
[19:14] <Beldar> carbonkey, That is a  update any stopped upgrade basically, you mentioned an error we have not seen in the upgrade to 14.04.
[19:14] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, forces interrupded installs to finish
[19:14] <mystogan> no idea,ririshi
[19:14] <ObrienDave> *interrupted
[19:14] <iiie> Is there a better channel to ask for help about "settings won't stay set"?
[19:15] <ObrienDave> iiie, settings for what?
[19:15] <Beldar> xar, various answers addressing this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/286233/how-to-add-a-skype-indicator
[19:16] <carbonkey> ObrienDave, that line "sudo apt-get -f install" would work as is in the terminal to force the upgrade installation to complete? Does it need to be run from a specific directory?
[19:16] <xar> Beldar, i've tried that but it wouldn't work
[19:16] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, will work from terminal
[19:16] <iiie> System settings, the one I was after was just the desktop wallpaper / background and the screen saver timer, but none of the others in the gnome(unity)-control-center save either.
[19:16] <Beldar> xar, That link?
[19:17] <iiie> To the extent that I navigate to another screen in there and back, and the settings back to default.
[19:17] <carbonkey> ObrienDave, exactly as I wrote it?  all I would have to do is, somehow, ssh into his system and run it from anywhere?
[19:17] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, not directory specific
[19:17] <ObrienDave> yes
[19:17] <mystogan> anywhere in terminal
[19:17] <xar> Beldar, yes
[19:17] <carbonkey> so....anyone know anything about ssh?
[19:18] <Beldar> xar, What ubuntu release are you using?
[19:18] <ObrienDave> mystogan, please add names to the person you're addressing. gets very confusing
[19:18] <mystogan> sorry
[19:18] <xar> Beldar, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:19] <ObrienDave> mystogan, using Tab-complete is useful for that :))
[19:19] <Beldar> xar, Have you modified the desktop with themes, compiz or the unity tweak tool?
[19:19] <mystogan> obriendave,what how?
[19:20] <carbonkey> what would I need to make happen to ssh into my grandfather's computer in Florida from up here in Massachusetts? anyone have experience with using ssh like that?
[19:20] <iiie> ObrienDave: settings in gnome/unity-control-center
[19:20] <xar> Beldar, I have just set the Theme to Radiance. Nothing else
[19:21] <ObrienDave> mystogan, type the first 3 or 4 letters of the name, hit Tab key ;)
[19:21] <genii> carbonkey: They would have to have some ssh server running, and forward port 22 to it on their router or modem. Then let you know the IP
[19:21] <mystogan> ObrienDave,
[19:21] <mystogan> yes thanks
[19:21] <carbonkey> genii: ok, so not happening :/
[19:21] <ObrienDave> mystogan, yup, just like that
[19:22] <mystogan> ObrienDave, it works like terminal :)
[19:22] <designbybeck> Odd problem I've had for awhile. There is some file or something inside my Documents folder that causes it to Crash nautilus when ever I open that folder... Nothing looks like a big file or anything that I can tell
[19:22] <ObrienDave> mystogan, yup :)
[19:22] <Beldar> xar, I don't use unity, however it seems the indicator when skype is running seems to be in the top panel, I would run a reset on the desktop and reboot. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/  If that does not work I would see if it shows in the guest account just as a test.
[19:23] <xar> Beldar, ok thank you
[19:23] <xar> Beldar, thank you very much
[19:23] <abc_harold> carbonkey: can't you just use TeamViewer with him?
[19:23] <Beldar> xar, A reset helps many issue and is a good base to be sure you are running correctly.
[19:24] <abc_harold> carbonkey: (if he has a working install)
[19:25] <carbonkey> abc_harold: TeamViewer? If, like you said, he needs a wiorking install then I don't think that is feasible.  He just wont be able to navigate his way through the install process.  All he does is start his web browser and email program on a regular basis. :/
[19:26] <abc_harold> carbonkey: I meant working install of Ubuntu, but you could probably talk him through installing TeamViewer over the phone
[19:26] <mystogan> any programming channel???
[19:27] <ObrienDave> mystogan, which language?
[19:27] <carbonkey> abc_harold: let me take a look at the info for TeamViewer.  I assume i can just google it
[19:27] <mystogan> ObrienDave, python or C..
[19:27] <abc_harold> carbonkey: yeah, it will be the top result
[19:28] <ObrienDave> mystogan, ##python or ##c++, iirc
[19:28] <mystogan> ObrienDave, C preferred....
[19:28] <abc_harold> carbonkey: http://www.teamviewer.com/hi/download/linux.aspx
[19:28] <mystogan> ObrienDave, ##c++ for C?
[19:29] <Ririshi> Hi again
[19:29] <ObrienDave> mystogan, what IRC client are you using?
[19:29] <mystogan> ObrienDave, xchat
[19:29] <Ririshi> Will disabling rx checksumming offload affect my download speeds?
[19:29] <carbonkey> abc_harold: so it doesn't require an install on the client side?  How does it work? (if you have a bit of experience with that :D)
[19:30] <ObrienDave> mystogan, ok, under server there is a channel search
[19:30] <ObrienDave> mystogan, find the channel there
[19:30] <mystogan> ok
[19:31] <abc_harold> carbonkey: it's just a .deb package that the Ubuntu Software Centre should offer to install when opened.
[19:32] <abc_harold> carbonkey: you'd need to install it too to connect to him, so if you're on Ubuntu you will get the same process
[19:32] <carbonkey> abc_harold: sorry to bother but, how would a typical use of it play out then?  I install it in the software center and then what?
[19:33] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, actually TeamViewer for windows will communicate with the Linux version, no problem
[19:33] <carbonkey> ObrienDave: oh, neat, i'm just a little confused on what he would have to do on his end
[19:33] <abc_harold> carbonkey: you'd install the .deb with help from software centre, then open it from the launcher, he'll get an ID that he tells you
[19:34] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, once running, he'll be able to copy and paste commands to terminal
[19:34] <dopie> does ubuntu have anything like this software
[19:34] <dopie> http://ditchnet.org/httpclient/
[19:35] <abc_harold> carbonkey: then you'd type it in along with the PIN he gets given
[19:35] <carbonkey> abc_harold: ObrienDave the id would display on startup if I can get him to install it from the software center? I ask because I had tremendous difficulty just getting him to navigate the file system over the phone. Luckily screenshot is bound to the print screen button on the keyboard
[19:36] <abc_harold> carbonkey: you just start it and it gives an ID and PIN to him straight away
[19:36] <rooff> Hi! I have a problem with a sound from headphone...could somebody be kind to help
[19:37] <carbonkey> abc_harold: hmm, then that is something I would seriously consider.  Is it full remote control or just screen sharing? (sorry if this is stuff i could get from the TeamViewer faq :O)
[19:38] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, iirc, it's just a one-to-one chat
[19:38] <abc_harold> carbonkey: its full remote control
[19:38] <rooff> Hi! I have a problem with a sound from headphone...could somebody be kind to help
[19:39] <carbonkey> abc_harold: so, in theory if i could get teamviewer connected i could personally run the force update command in terminal? *crosses fingers*
[19:39]  * ObrienDave was thinking of TeamSpeak, my apologies
[19:39] <abc_harold> carbonkey: yes, you'd have full control of his machine, obviously when you use sudo for the force update you'll need his password
[19:39] <ObrienDave> !ask | rooff, not without knowing the issue
[19:41] <carbonkey> abc_harold:  which i have, excellent! thanks so much.  I'll do some research on my own into teamviewer but that sounds like the perfect solution (if I can get him to install it) thanks again and have a good day/night/morning
[19:42] <carbonkey> ObrienDave: thanks for your help as well
[19:42] <carbonkey> beldar left but thank him too :P bye all
[19:42] <ObrienDave> carbonkey, not a problem, hope the best for your grandpa
[19:42] <abc_harold> carbonkey: no prob, hope it helps
[19:43] <lonewulf85> I get a "Requires installation of untrusted packages" error every time I try to update Ubuntu 12.04 any help?
[19:44] <tsuyoshi_> hello,have anyone a unlock code for nokia 100?
[19:44] <tsuyoshi_> where can i find it?
[19:45] <abc_harold> lonewulf85: that normally occurs when you have package sources that you don't have the keys for
[19:45] <nidalr> hello should i use nvidia-prime on bumblebee on 14.04 .. .whats the difference?
[19:45] <rooff> problem: Ubuntu 14.04 no sound in headphone
[19:45] <OerHeks> tsuyoshi_, wrong channel for that
[19:45] <dmatt> Hi, I want to migrate from 2 hdd install (/ and encrypted /home) to one ssd install with two partitions. If I dd partitions to new ssd, will encrypted /home partition still work?
[19:45] <nidalr> *nvidia-prime or bumblebee
[19:46] <tsuyoshi_> which channel is that for this
[19:46] <lonewulf85> abc_harold: How can I fix it?
[19:46] <OerHeks> !alis | tsuyoshi_
[19:46] <OerHeks> or google
[19:48] <abc_harold> lonewulf85: try looking at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages
[19:48] <ObrienDave> rooff, please ask for help here, it helps others that may have the same issue
[19:48] <abc_harold> lonewulf85: sorry, can't look at exact steps right now as on my phone
[19:49] <rooff> i did it
[19:49] <lonewulf85> abc_harold: that is alright.
[19:51] <electricprism> whats the easiest way to mount a hard drive at startup in 14.04?
[19:52] <Blenda> interesting question, same pb here, have to "open" my windows partition before being able to access its files
[19:53] <electricprism> I converted it from ntfs to ext4 a couple months ago
[19:53] <eeee> electricprism: Blenda add it to /etc/fstab
[19:53] <lonewulf85> abc_harold: Bang fixed it steam launcher was the problem.
[19:53] <electricprism> I realized that windows was playing dirty with my linux drive and causing anomylous problems, it was weird
[19:53] <ObrienDave> rooff, ok, sorry, i did not see your question
[19:54] <unkn-error> electricprism, encrypt your linux drives and don't mount them in windows
[19:54] <electricprism> like Windows 7 would try to initialize my ext4 drive and then rebooting to linux would run fsck on start
[19:54] <abc_harold> lonewulf85: cool, I had the same prob the other day and the culprit was my Intel driver source
[19:54] <lonewulf85> abc_harold: funny
[19:54] <electricprism> unkn-error: good idea, if I ever get windows again, 14.04 is great
[19:54] <lonewulf85> and thanks.
[19:55] <unkn-error> electricprism, Windows 8 is not really shutting down, it is Hibernating
[19:55] <Blenda> eeee: found the fstab.d folder, but what to do exactly, create a shorcut in?
[19:55] <unkn-error> electricprism, I don't know about windows 7
[19:55] <abc_harold> abc_harold: no problem!
[19:55] <Nic343> I can't stay, but I just wanted to thank everyone who tried to help me earlier. Unfortunately installing different DEs did not work.
[19:55] <unkn-error> electricprism, use EXT3 if you wish to mount them in windows, as EXT3 is more compatibile, mounting EXT4 in windows is not supported well
[19:56] <Nic343> During the install process I did see scroll by a bunch of messages about DBUS / without X11 $DISPLAY etc. that I did not transcribe or log, alas.
[19:56] <Nic343> But I think I am going to simply back up the files, format, and reinstall from scratch. Cheers.
[19:57] <unkn-error> electricprism, http://www.kourosh.net/post/data-loss-windows-8-and-linux-dual-boot/
[19:57] <Neurome> Hey
[19:58] <OerHeks> Nic343, have fun
[19:58] <Neurome> I updated my graphics driver but im still now getting troubles with audio for downloaded video'(s) youtube plays fine but if i skip anywhere throughout a downloaded video the audio cuts off
[19:59] <Neurome> Any idea's ?
[19:59] <Neurome> or recommendations i've tried to search but i didn't find anything
[20:00] <rooff> problem: Ubuntu 14.04 no sound in headphone
[20:01] <scoutmastershake> Hey guys I have a 14.04 question concerning user auth and proftpd. I have an account I set up using useradd username -p password -d /home/dir -s /bin/false . Then, I did passwd username. Now, all of a sudden the account stops working and my log says incorrect password well if I do passwd again it starts working again. Has anyone ran across this?
[20:02] <scoutmastershake> anyone?
[20:05] <thesnark> I just compiled a package from source and installed it, yet I keep getting a message saying the package hasn't been installed and that I need to contact my administrator
[20:05] <thesnark> even though I added the binary to my path
[20:05] <ObrienDave> thesnark, which package?
[20:05] <thesnark> julia
[20:05] <eeee> scoutmastershake: when you used -password, did you enter it in the encrypted form ? SHA512 or whatever ur using?
[20:06] <hmuller> Notebook owners on Trusty! What's the best way to disable, or keep bluetooth from starting at boot?
[20:06] <thesnark> ObrienDave: Really if I could somehow just tell ubuntu that I already have the package installed then I'll be set
[20:07] <thesnark> ObrienDave: Do you know of a way to mark a package as installed without using the apt repository package?
[20:09] <thesnark> question answered. Thanks google! For anybody who's curious:
[20:09] <thesnark> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man8/apt-mark.8.html
[20:10] <hmuller> thesnark: good to know, thanks for sharing!
[20:12] <scoutmastershake> eee: I just entered the password following these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[20:12] <ObrienDave> better yet, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/apt-mark.8.html
[20:13] <scoutmastershake> I've also double checked my proftpd config next to one of my webservers but its running 12.04
[20:16] <hmuller> best google answer for turning bluetooth off at boot: add "rfkill block bluetooth" to /etc/rc.local
[20:17] <eeee> scoutmastershake: you can check /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow to see what's going on with the passwords
[20:18] <eeee> scoutmastershake: also check /var/log/auth.log , it will say something like password changed ...
[20:19] <scoutmastershake> eeee: What would I be looking for out of the ordinary? /etc/passwd has all my users and they're valid and /etc/shadow has a password for my user. It;s as if the password just changes or stops working and soon as I do passwd it fixes the problem I have restart my proftpd service
[20:19] <eeee> scoutmastershake: cat /var/log/auth | grep -C10 "password changed"
[20:19] <eeee> scoutmastershake: sorry, cat /var/log/auth.log | grep -C10 "password changed"
[20:22] <scoutmastershake> eeee: Just where I changed it, I am seeing this tough before I changed it. proftpd: pam_unix(proftpd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=/dev/ftpd12372 ruser=9906 rhost=10.10.14.52  user=9906
[20:22] <Masterjedi688> Afternoon/Evening everyone
[20:23] <Masterjedi688> Can someone tell me how to fix the digital clock please.  It keeps going back to military time and I hate that.
[20:23] <scoutmastershake> Learn to read military time ?
[20:24] <Masterjedi688> LOL
[20:24] <Masterjedi688> no thanks
[20:24] <Masterjedi688> I like regular time
[20:25] <scoutmastershake> lol, I just count it up till noon then add the hour 12 + 5PM = 17:00:00
[20:25] <k1l_> Masterjedi688: which ubuntu? which desktop?
[20:25] <vitimiti> I hate pm/am clock
[20:25] <Masterjedi688> I have lubuntu 14.04
[20:25] <scoutmastershake> I get use it to for timestamps in my tables
[20:26] <eeee> Masterjedi688: you could add this to your ~./profile , gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.datetime time-format 12-hour
[20:26] <k1l_> Masterjedi688: doesnt the clok with a right click offer a settings menu?
[20:26] <Masterjedi688> It does
[20:26] <eeee> ( if it keeps resetting )
[20:26] <eeee> * ~/.profile
[20:27] <Masterjedi688> Yes, it keeps resetting to that dam military time
[20:28] <vitimiti> scoutmastershake, I just watch it and understand it, 12 hour clock is weird in this country
[20:29] <Masterjedi688> In the digital clock settings its set at %R
[20:30] <scoutmastershake> so, has anyone had this error with a user and proftpd ? pam_unix(proftpd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=/dev/ftpd12371 ruser=<username> rhost=<ip address>  user=<username>
[20:31] <Masterjedi688> So how do I fix it?
[20:31] <Zodiak> can i have all 3 os on the same screen ?
[20:32] <Blenda> virtualbox?
[20:32] <Zodiak> i wnanna play OS X, Windows "treshold" "ununtu"
[20:32] <clahey> Zodiak: vmware player is another option.
[20:32] <Zodiak> i wnanna play OS X, Windows "treshold" "ununtu" on the same screen
[20:32] <Blenda> answered!
[20:32] <clahey> Zodiak, Oh, you need OS X... then you'd need VMware fusion.
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[20:33] <Zodiak> aight chech it
[20:33] <Masterjedi688> Is there anywhere on the forums where I can go to find out how to fix the digital clock?
[20:34] <ObrienDave> Masterjedi688, if you click help, there is a variable list, iirc
[20:35] <scoutmastershake> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900448
[20:35] <Blenda> what if you set the settings to manual mode?
[20:36] <nikitha> hi
[20:36] <nikitha> oracle 11gR2 installation on ubuntu is struck with 68% at Link Libraries option showing as in progress , that is it is showing for Linking  SQLPLUS executables .... it has taken almost 10-15 mins , is it working or got failed ... ?  please assist
[20:37] <grodius> Hi I need help. Running 14.04, seems like something to do with permissions or my OS having restrictions to my home folder. I am able to see my files via terminal, but it says Nautilus is not installed. my KB shortcuts do not work anymore, my desktop icons are gone, wallpaper is at default. I recently reinstalled libgail and installed a program called Crashplan
[20:37] <Masterjedi688> Problem solved
[20:37] <Masterjedi688> Thank you Scoutmastershake
[20:37] <scoutmastershake> np anytime
[20:38] <OerHeks> nikitha, not really supported here, oracle gives a howto https://community.oracle.com/thread/2461988?tstart=0
[20:38] <Masterjedi688> gtg
[20:38] <Masterjedi688> Thanks again evryone
[20:38] <OerHeks> nikitha, ubuntu is not *certified*  lolz  http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/install.112/e24321/pre_install.htm#CIHFICFD
[20:40] <mnms_> Hi, how where I can disable shortcut alt+s, I was looking in compiz without success ?
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> mnms_: what does alt+s do? might be in your keyboard settings, but that's a blind guess.
[20:43] <mnms_> SchrodingersScat: When Im in application window it goes to menu on the top border
[20:44] <LucasTT> can i use Python to develop a screenshot app for ubuntu?
[20:44] <XepoofBNC> Sure,
[20:44] <XepoofBNC> just import screenshot.
[20:44] <LucasTT> can i also use it to screenshot other windows?
[20:46] <Farva> can anyone tell me what this is: http://pastie.org/9508098
[20:46] <mnms_> Or is there any way to find which plugin use shortcut ?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> LucasTT  shutter is a nice screenshot app
[20:47] <LucasTT> MonkeyDust, none i've tried have the features i like
[20:47] <LucasTT> i'm currently using Lookit
[20:48] <LucasTT> i wish Lightshot had a Ubuntu build
[20:48] <ferrance1ades> anyone using irssi hear?
[20:48] <LucasTT> + i've been wanting to learn python
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> ferrance1ades  what if yes?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> LucasTT  type /j #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:48] <OerHeks> awesome, asking a question then change name
[20:49] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:49] <LucasTT> thanks MonkeyDust , didn't know that chan
[20:49] <Fr0Zn> sorry
[20:49] <david38400> Any help please : I have just connected a flat screen tv to my computer. I must have something wrong with the energy saver screen saver. It goes off after 10 mins or so. How can I change this
[20:49] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: how can i permanent change nick in irssi
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> Fr0Zn  type /nick blah, then !register it
[20:50] <Fr0Zn> !register
[20:51] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: just because everytime i connect to irc i have my pc username
[20:52] <david38400> Can anyone help with screen saver, energy?
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> Fr0Zn  ok, then use: irssi -c [server] -n [nick]
[20:52] <willow_> hello guys
[20:53] <willow_> any1 knows how to use magnet links to download from linuxdcpp??
[20:53] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: i have to do it everytime to conect or there is some setings i can change ?
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> Fr0Zn  or ope ~/.irssi/config ... scroll down to the end and change your nickname
[20:55] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: yes i will try to do it ty :)
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> Fr0Zn  or type /set and see what you can change
[20:55] <Fr0Zn> i try and come back
[21:00] <mnms_> Anyone has any idea how to unbind or how to find where is set this shortcut (alt+s) ?
[21:01] <eeee> mnms_: what's it doing?
[21:01] <mnms_> it opens menu in top bar
[21:01] <mnms_> eeee: app in application context
[21:01] <eeee> yeah, that's what alt+something does
[21:01] <eeee> why do you want to stop that?
[21:02] <mnms_> eeee: cause I have better idea for this shorcut
[21:02] <mnms_> I want to customize my IDE as much as possible
[21:02] <eeee> well i can't argue with that
[21:03] <eeee> ah, ok
[21:03] <mnms_> I tried to find it in compiz manager but without success ...
[21:03] <eeee> are you running unity?
[21:03] <mnms_> yes
[21:03] <Ben64> maybe you should use a shortcut that isn't already used
[21:03] <eeee> settings > keyboard > shortcuts
[21:03] <mnms_> Ben64: why ?
[21:03] <eeee> mnms_: if you dont mind me asking, what will the shortcut do btw?
[21:03] <mnms_> Im using shorcut which best fit to my habits
[21:04] <Fr0Zn> hello back
[21:04] <Ben64> because it won't be easy to change it
[21:04] <eeee> it could already be set... like super_s or something as accessible
[21:04] <mnms_> eeee: It will execute git status command
[21:04] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: hello again
[21:04] <eeee> mnms_: ok, well, settings > keyboard ..get's you there
[21:04] <mnms_> super + S dont think it is hard to change I think I saw it in keyboard -> shortcutts
[21:04] <Guest40813> Question about an ubuntu server on DO, when I log in it says "7 packages can up updated, 7 updates are security updates"
[21:05] <Guest40813> But apt-get upgrade doesn't update them
[21:05] <Guest40813> How do?
[21:05] <Fr0Zn> MonkeyDust: i changed config file and set and works perfect ty
[21:05] <Ben64> Guest40813: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:05] <Fr0Zn> whoid MonkeyDust
[21:05] <Guest40813> Excellent, thanks ben64
[21:05] <eeee> mnms_: if you want to add your own, use the custom shorcuts
[21:06] <eeee> that'll over ride any alt+s
[21:06] <OerHeks> mnms_, it is not in the keyboard menu, open dconf > org → gnome → desktop → wm → keybindings → toggle-shaded (nearly bottem list)
[21:06] <eeee> again, super+s would be better i guess
[21:06] <mnms_> eeee: No, I very often put my finger on left alt
[21:06] <mnms_> I dont want to move it
[21:07] <mnms_> OerHeks: Im checking now..
[21:07] <eeee> then add it to the custom shortcuts
[21:07] <OerHeks> eeee, doesn't override AFAIK
[21:07] <eeee> > ( + ), type the command, then select it, and press alt+s
[21:07] <mnms_> eeee: I want to use this shortcut from application
[21:07] <eeee> OerHeks: it does, i just tried it
[21:07] <mnms_> I just want to unbind this combination
[21:07] <mnms_> to use it in app
[21:08] <mnms_> OerHeks: With dconf editor for example ?
[21:09] <OerHeks> mnms_, yes, install it as it is not standard
[21:09] <OerHeks> find a replacement first, saves time
[21:09] <nikitha> incase i abort the installation , i will remove /app directory and re-install it with ./runInstaller -ignoreSysPrereqs
[21:10] <mnms_> OerHeks: There is Control Alt s
[21:10] <mnms_> Not alt s
[21:11] <eeee> mnms_: just use the custom shortcuts
[21:11] <Glorfindel> how can I set tty 1 so it will auto login and run irssi?
[21:11] <mnms_> eeee: To unbind this shortcut ?
[21:12] <eeee> mnms_: to set it to whatever you want!
[21:12] <Glorfindel> or ANY TTY for that matter
[21:12] <mnms_> I dont want to set it from OS level. I want to set it in application, Sublime text
[21:13] <zzxc> Alright I got a question. I have someone wanting to to a SFTP connection in my machine (chrooted with a rbash shell to prevent anything but SFTP). The guy keeps insisting that I need to send him a public key. Is it just me or does that make absolutly no sense?
[21:13] <eeee> mnms_: you're not making sense
[21:14] <SchrodingersScat> zzxc: right, he shouldn't need the public key, I would think you would need his, if you were going for not using passwords
[21:14] <eeee> mnms_: you want it to do something, only in a specific application you mean?
[21:14] <Zodiak> www.allismen.blogspot.se
[21:15] <zzxc> SchrodingersScat: Yeah, were specifically doing a key exchange to avoid passwords.
[21:15] <eeee> why would you want to unbind it in the OS then ?
[21:15] <mnms_> eeee: I want to use this shortcut in my editor, but I cannot because it is intercepted by system
[21:15] <alexander> _ander
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> zzxc: at the same time, it's the public key, so not sure if there's harm in giving it to him, at the same time I'm not sure why/what he would do with it.
[21:16] <Farva> when I try to run this .sh: http://pastie.org/9508166 I recieve this: http://pastie.org/9508188 it was working yesterday just fine, I didn't change a thing in it and now its not working. Can some one help me?
[21:16] <mnms_> eeee: I dont use this shortcut it is useless for me, so I want to bind it in my editor
[21:17] <zzxc> Yeah true. still just doesn't make any damn sense to me.
[21:17] <SchrodingersScat> zzxc: hmm, unless he can confirm he's connecting to you with it, like the warning it gives to add a machine the first time.
[21:17] <SchrodingersScat> zzxc: but not sure on that one.
[21:18] <zzxc> Yeah I was thinking about sending him the sshd's public key, but I still need to have his public key as well.
[21:19] <zzxc> SchrodingersScat: Its not like he can connect ot me without giving a public key to but in the authorized keys
[21:19] <wafflejock_> yup
[21:20] <SchrodingersScat> zzxc: should maybe explain it as you understand it, then ask him what he's trying to do.
[21:21] <zzxc> SchrodingersScat: Might be a good idea. I'm really wanting to bite he head off right now simplly because he is being kind of irrate about it.
[21:21] <mkanyicy> SchrodingersScat: zzxc: im curious guys, what's the situation
[21:21] <wafflejock_> SFTP connection person is asking for public key from the server
[21:21] <wafflejock_> but they shouldn't need it as discussed above
[21:23] <wafflejock_> perhaps as mentioned they want to verify the fingerprint using the public key
[21:23] <SchrodingersScat> that and reverse connection/tunnel is the only thing I can think of, but if he's locked to sftp i'm not sure if that's even an option.
[21:24] <mkanyicy> so who is the SFTP problem guy?
[21:25] <wafflejock_> someone zzxc is dealing with
[21:25] <wafflejock_> makes sense to verify the fingerprint really but just can't think of any other reason, but giving out the public key shouldn't be a problem really hence being public
[21:26] <zzxc> mkanyicy: Sorry Looked away for a second and didn't hear any mentions.
[21:27] <zzxc> mkanyicy: He's a vendor who is trying to basically drop of xml to our server.
[21:28] <zzxc> mkanyicy: Is the main contact of a third party software vendor who is trying to interface with out software. I can't really say a whole lot more than that through.
[21:29] <mkanyicy> zzxc: i understand, so where is the problem then?
[21:30] <SchrodingersScat> mkanyicy: I think it's deciding if he can give the public key, if he gains any risk, which is tied to the 'why' other guy needs it
[21:31] <zzxc> mkanyicy: He develops the software that some of our volume costomers use to basically format a bunch a zip of xml files via sftp, we're using a chrooted director with rssh. His instisting that we need to send him the public key.
[21:31] <necro606> what cannel would be good to access a usb hard drive with an encryption..
[21:32] <necro606> I need to get some information off my backup and can't find anything that will help
[21:32] <zzxc> mkanyicy: I'm a little worried he's configured it for a ftps connection and is wanting our public key from our cert so he can sign and go.
[21:34] <Guest26000> I'm having issues with my framerate. Specifically, Chrome is taking 2-3 seconds between each tab switch. How can I diagnose and fix this issue?
[21:34] <mnms_> I checked compiz manager, unity tweak tool and I still cannot disable this shortcut..
[21:34] <mkanyicy> zzxc: im out of my depth, but there should be no worries about dishing out your public key
[21:34] <mnms_> also in gconf editor I didnt find it too
[21:34] <zzxc> But I asking him why he gets irrate. I just wanted to make sure that this wasn't the I some who missed something and am going to get int a stupid arguemnet
[21:35] <Red_X> anyone in here feel like helping someone that should be able to figure it out =p
[21:35] <Red_X> i am having issues with VLC
[21:35] <zzxc> mkanyicy: Yeah I'm not worried about that. But I still need a public key FROM him in order to sign him in. Him having the finger print doesn't do any good without him having the abilitiy to sign in.
[21:35] <lego_> heya
[21:36] <ObrienDave> Red_X, without knowing what the issue is, it's kind of difficult to help you
[21:36] <Red_X> oh yeah =p
[21:36] <Red_X> anyway, when i try to play a video
[21:36] <Red_X> it lags hardcore
[21:36] <Red_X> and skips
[21:36] <ObrienDave> !enter
[21:36] <Red_X> !enter?
[21:37] <pentel> hello guys
[21:37] <SchrodingersScat> Red_X: try to use your enter key less, commas and punctuation help keep the channel free of clutter.  You might even think of a solution as you are explaining, via rubber ducky debugging.
[21:37] <ObrienDave> Red_X, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:37] <mkanyicy> zzxc: yes, that's true.
[21:37] <kike_> Hello everybody
[21:37] <pentel> i need hep with ubuntu 14.04 on acer 5738z with radeon mobility 4570
[21:38] <pentel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIx7TCzEB8 heres what is going on
[21:38] <Red_X> Obriendave, not sure.  I just instaled the new one the other day.
[21:38] <pentel> i got external screen connected to laptop througth hdmi
[21:38] <ObrienDave> Red_X, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:39] <necro606> need help decrypting a ntfs hard drive.....
[21:39] <Red_X> Thank you Obriendave, it is downloading them now
[21:39] <pentel>  i need hep with ubuntu 14.04 on acer 5738z with radeon mobility 4570,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIx7TCzEB8 heres what is going on.  i got external screen connected to laptop througth hdmi, and when i only run ubuntu i go stripes on the screen as you can see on vido
[21:39] <elijah> How can I find out what version of systemd Ubuntu 14.04 has?
[21:40] <Bashing-om> pentel: Are you aware that ATI droped support for that series of cards ? There is no propretary driver available after 12.04.1 .
[21:41] <jhutchins> Red_X: Please let us know if that fixes the problem.
[21:41] <Red_X> i am downloading it now, thanks guys.
[21:41] <pentel> @Bashing-om hm you open my eyes;p
[21:41] <mikemikemike> I'm having issues with my framerate. Specifically, Chrome is taking 2-3 seconds between each tab switch. How can I diagnose and fix this issue?
[21:42] <elijah> ahh, nvm, I see Ubuntu 14.04 does not have systemd https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd#Warning.21_Experimental_code
[21:42] <Bashing-om> pentel: It do put a different slant on things .
[21:42] <Red_X> jhtchins, a window poped up about agreeing to windows stuff, lol
[21:42] <kike_> One question : I have just re-instaled my system in a 256GB SSD drive at /dev/sda1. As usual my current home folder is /home/kike . I have a backup unit (2TB) at /dev/sdb1  containing  my old /home folder. ¿can i mount somehow one specific folder at /dev/sdb1 as my home folder? so i can keep my download and stuff in the NOT SSD drive. or is there any workarroud about something like that?
[21:42] <pentel> but there is one more thing. I've installed 12.4.1 and i was unable to install drivvers
[21:43] <pentel> i encounter problem with propertiary drivers to install them
[21:43] <Bashing-om> pentel: Are you sure exact release 12.04.1 not any other .2/3/4/5/ ?
[21:43] <pentel> yes 100% sure
[21:44] <pentel> iso is ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386
[21:44] <Bashing-om> pentel: OK, have you enabled HWE in 12.04.1 .. as that salso breaks the xserver compatibility .
[21:45] <Bashing-om> /salso/also*
[21:45] <pentel> sorry cant remember if HWA was on ;/
[21:46] <pentel> but i haven;t done any think in this direction so it may be possible it was no on
[21:46] <k1l> pentel: why install the 12.04.1 iso and not the actual .5?
[21:47] <pentel> because my radeon mobility 4xxx is not supported any more
[21:47] <k1l> it is, its just that amd dropped the fglrx support. but the free driver should work
[21:47] <Bashing-om> pentel: Terminal command -> X -version <- see that the version is less than v1.13 .
[21:48] <k1l> at least there were several users with amd 4000er last days which worked with 14.04 and free driver
[21:48] <bangbang> G'day folks!
[21:48] <bangbang> I'm trying to figure out how to run the "xinput" command through SSH.
[21:48] <pentel> k1l i'm not able t owork normally on my laptop
[21:49] <pentel> Bashing-om i'm on microsoft shit now ;/
[21:49] <k1l> pentel: did you try the 3.13 lts-trusty kernel and x-stack?
[21:49] <bangbang> pentel: nothing wrong w/ M$ stuff :D
[21:49] <jhutchins> Red_X: So works better now?
[21:49] <lego_> hey
[21:49] <Red_X> just finished installing
[21:49] <Red_X> about to try
[21:50] <felixruina> Hi, everyone, a very noob question: I'm getting ready to upgrade my system, and I would like to do a complete system backup first. I have my home dir all backed up, but I want the system backed up, too...
[21:50] <jhutchins> bangbang: We reserve the right to disagree on that.
[21:50] <ObrienDave> Red_X, you might need a reboot
[21:50] <felixruina> I know I could do this with dd, but have never tried it, and wasn't sure how easy a restore would be
[21:50] <jhutchins> bangbang: What are you trying to accomplish by running xinput?
[21:50] <bangbang> jhutchins: I'm on a Macbook Pro Retina... lol
[21:50] <bangbang> jhutchins: i'm trying to rotate my touch drivers remotely for a device.
[21:51] <felixruina> Any suggestions or different recomendations?
[21:51] <jhutchins> ObrienDave: You never need to reboot linux for a package install unless it's the kernel.
[21:51] <Bashing-om> pentel: Ya mihgt want to try 14.04, with the open source driver. A lot of improvemnets have been made in the opens source drivers .
[21:51] <ObrienDave> right
[21:51] <pentel> k1l: on 14.04?
[21:51] <bangbang> it works when i'm on the machine directly, but in order for me to remotely troubleshoot without using remote desktop, I'd liek to handle everything through SSH.
[21:51] <necro606> what program can i use to decrypt a ntfs drive....
[21:51] <k1l> pentel: there is a backports kernel and x-stack from 14.04 for 12.04
[21:51] <Red_X> yeah, i think i will need to reboot.  THanks for all the help guys
[21:51] <Ben64> bangbang: DISPLAY=:0 xinput
[21:51] <jhutchins> bangbang: Do you have x forwarding working?
[21:52] <bangbang> Ben64: let me try that
[21:52] <jhutchins> Sigh.  rebooting is a microsoft solution.
[21:52] <necro606> lol
[21:52] <bangbang> jhutchins: No, I'm not familiar with x forwarding. Is that what you'd recommend I search for when looking for documentation? "x forwarding" ?
[21:52] <pentel> Bashing-om: open source drivers are installed in default
[21:52] <bangbang> xserve forwarding?
[21:52] <Red_X> lol
[21:52] <jhutchins> bangbang: You're running osx on the mac, right?
[21:52] <pentel> am i correct?
[21:53] <Red_X> i do think rebooting is a winblows answer, but sometimes the programs suck =p
[21:53] <bangbang> jhutchins: yes
[21:53] <k1l> pentel: but free drivers depend on the kernel. and there is a lot of progress
[21:53] <pentel> i undarstand
[21:53] <pentel> kernell was up to date
[21:53] <frezix> hi, I'm a bit new to this and I just had a question. If I download the 14.04 mini ISO and update+upgrade it later on, would I then have the most up-to-date 14.04.1 release?
[21:53] <k1l> pentel: which kernel it was?
[21:53] <jhutchins> bangbang: I think you need to run an xserver for it to work.  Basically your local display becomes the output of the GUI commands.
[21:53] <ObrienDave> frezix, yes
[21:54] <bangbang> ah ok
[21:54] <piyush1911> Yes, run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:54] <felixruina> frezix: yes!
 Yes, run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:54] <k1l> frezix: its like the servicepack on windows. if you do the updates you are fine
[21:54] <bangbang> jhutchins: I'm curious... i'm going to try and SSH to the remote box from my Ubuntu VM
[21:54] <Bashing-om> pentel: Generally so IF "3rd party software install" is not checked in that initial install stage. ( not real sure what would result in the case of non-support driver if 3rd party were enabled) .
[21:54] <pentel> even after update the stripes on the screen appears here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIx7TCzEB8
[21:54] <Multbrelch> hi der_amma
[21:54] <k1l> pentel: 12.04.1 got kernel 3.2, 14.04 got kernel 3.13.
[21:55] <pentel> k1l  3.13 on 14.04
[21:55] <frezix> got it, thanks ObrienDave piyush1911 felixruina and k1l :)
[21:55] <CodeGosu> i want to cline drive, tools like clonezilla run at boot time, is there any reason why wouldn't i simply use 'dd', while doing other stuff insead of booting from clonezilla image?
[21:55] <ObrienDave> welcome
[21:55] <frezix> does 14.04.1 have different repo's than 14.04?
[21:55] <der_amma> hey Multbrelch
[21:55] <frezix> (is this the reason behind dist-upgrade?)
[21:56] <pentel> the stripes intesifies when desktop is only on external hdmi screen
[21:56] <ObrienDave> CodeGosu, because "doing other stuff" can render your drive image useless
[21:56] <jhutchins> bangbang: https://it.engineering.illinois.edu/user-guides/engineering-workstation-services/x-forwarding-mac
[21:56] <pentel> *connected througth hdmi
[21:56] <pentel> on 1920xxxx resolution
[21:56] <Beldar> frezix, Security and kernel upgrades is all
[21:56] <bangbang> jhutchins: i'll be damned - let me poke around that for a minute. :D
[21:56] <k1l> frezix: no, apt-get dist-upgrade is needed to install packages which actually need a new install of another package. so technically its not a update. like a new kernel package
[21:57] <Beldar> frezix, Same repo.
[21:57] <Ben64> bangbang: aren't you trying to run xinput as if you were on the computer locally
[21:57] <bangbang> Ben64: that is correct.
[21:57] <k1l> pentel: to me it looks like its the issue of the video card as is. does it work on windows? i mean amd dropped support for that old cards iirc
[21:57] <Ben64> bangbang: then you don't want x forwarding
[21:57] <jhutchins> bangbang: You might need to use ssh -X if it's not enabled in the config files.
[21:58] <bangbang> I've tried the ssh -X
[21:58] <frezix> ah ok but dist-upgrade seems to just remove some packages in a smart way according to this post I found - http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[21:58] <bangbang> no luck
[21:58] <pentel> k1l works ok on windows and ubuntu 13 and lower
[21:58]  * jhutchins is not familiar with xinput
[21:58] <pentel> also works good withoud external screen
[21:58] <The_Challenger> hello..
[21:58] <Ben64> bangbang: have you tried my suggestion
[21:58] <bangbang> jhutchins: it's okay... neither was I until recently
[21:58] <ObrienDave> frezix, trust us, use dist-upgrade
[21:58] <pentel> i got connected eizo 21" screen througth hdmi
[21:58] <bangbang> Ben64: the DISPLAY:=0; thing?
[21:58] <Ben64> bangbang: yep
[21:58] <pentel> to laptop
[21:59] <bangbang> Ben64: not quite sure what to do with that
[21:59] <k1l> pentel: dont compare different setups. i am only talking about that hdmi issues
[21:59] <Ben64> bangbang: you type it
[21:59] <bangbang> lol
[21:59] <frezix> ObrienDave: will do, should I always use it instead of just upgrade?
[21:59] <bangbang> it does nothing
[21:59] <Beldar> frezix, Any update/upgrade can remove some and others, smarter I doubt is a differential. What is you end issue on this, and use nicks here.
[21:59] <Ben64> bangbang: it does not do nothing, what are you typing exactly
[21:59] <ObrienDave> frezix, i always use dist-upgrade
[21:59] <Beldar> your*
[21:59] <The_Challenger> which chmod should I gave to a user, so he can modify his files permissions?
[21:59] <bangbang> Ben64: DISPLAY=:0 xinput
[22:00] <pentel> hdmi issues are only on ubuntu 14.04
[22:00] <bangbang> oh wait
[22:00] <bangbang> i lied
[22:00] <bangbang> I totally lied.
[22:00] <Ben64> bangbang: i know
[22:00] <ObrienDave> oh no, the gods weep ;P
[22:00] <bangbang> omg
[22:00] <bangbang> Ben64: ty sir
[22:00] <Ben64> thats why i said that like 5 mins ago :|
[22:00] <frezix> Beldar: not really an issue, just wondering why to use dist-upgrade vs. just upgrade.
[22:01] <bangbang> Long day :\
[22:01] <Ben64> 9 mins ago
[22:01] <pentel> k1l i think it's drivers issues
[22:02] <Beldar> frezix, Mainly to get kernels. When someone uses the word intelligent in a software reference that is a bit of a red flag, it is only as intelligent as the code writer or user.
[22:02] <ObrienDave> frezix, and usually not very intelligent
[22:02] <frib> anyone know how to go about enabling japanese font for styles in fluxbox?
[22:02] <frezix> Beldar: I suppose my main concern is whether dist-upgrade is always safer than plain upgrade. So assuming the 'intelligent' aspect of dist-upgrade, would you still say it's a safer option than dist-upgrade?
[22:03] <mikemikemike> I'm having issues with my framerate. Specifically, Chrome is taking 2-3 seconds between each tab switch. How can I diagnose and fix this issue?
[22:03] <frezix> ObrienDave: ^
[22:03] <Beldar> ObrienDave, Sorta like one word answers here like, "what" ;)
[22:04] <ObrienDave> frezix, i use, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:04] <ObrienDave> ALWAYS
[22:04] <jhutchins> Ben64: Thanks for stepping in.
[22:04] <Beldar> frezix, Either an upgrade or dist-upgrade give you a yes or no that is the key issue to avoid partial upgrades, I use dist everytime.
[22:04] <jhutchins> banister: x forwarding is still pretty cool.
[22:04] <Ben64> jhutchins: no prob
[22:05] <ObrienDave> frezix, caps lock intended ;P
[22:05] <Ben64> jhutchins: indeed it is, just it runs it as if it were on your computer, not the one it is forwarding from
[22:05] <Beldar> frezix, Always look at what is to be installed what is to be upgraded and or if anything is held in a apt-get run, that is the real key.
[22:05] <necro606> the upgrade is safer then just update.  update just does partial file replacement. upgrade does fresh install of newer version of program.
[22:06] <ObrienDave> necro606, NOT quite right
[22:06] <Beldar> necro606, Update and upgrade are not the same.
[22:06] <flatlined> \4
[22:06] <frezix> update updates the repo cache IIRC
[22:07] <ObrienDave> frezix, correct
[22:07] <Ben64> 'update' updates the apt cache, 'upgrade' upgrades packages, and 'dist-upgrade' upgrades packages, but can remove or add brand new packages
[22:07] <frezix> then one should do upgrade to upgrade according to the newly updated repo cache
[22:07] <ObrienDave> frezix, i use, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:07] <ObrienDave> ALWAYS
[22:07] <ObrienDave> frezix, caps lock intended ;P
[22:07] <Ben64> without doing dist-upgrade, you won't get new kernels
[22:08] <frezix> ObrienDave: haha nice :p
[22:08] <frezix> and it always worked without any glitches?
[22:08] <ObrienDave> yes
[22:08] <frezix> cool, I'll make an alias of that then
[22:09] <gnu> hello guys, i need help getting sound work on my eee pc
[22:09] <frezix> or a function, but I'm not yet sure what the differences between those 2 are
[22:09] <Guest55564> hello guys, i need help getting sound work on my eee pc
[22:09] <Ben64> frezix: man apt-get
[22:09] <Beldar> frezix, NOte the importance of looking at the upgrade before just hitting Y=yes, an partial upgrade can brick you.
[22:10] <Bashing-om> frezix: Like so: update, updates packages, does not install new stuff, whereas dist-upgrade will install new stuff as in a new kernel.
[22:10] <ObrienDave> frezix, the && is a logical "trap" that does not let the remaining commands execute if the previous command errors out
[22:10] <Guest55564> hello guys, i need help getting sound work on my eee pc. I have a fresh install of lubuntu
[22:10] <frezix> Ben64: yeah I've been reading that for some time now
[22:11] <frezix> Beldar: I'm not sure I have the expertise to determine whether my new updates will brick my machine :(
[22:13] <pentel> Bashing-on the xorg version is 1.15.1
[22:14] <pentel> on 14.,04
[22:15] <Beldar> frezix, The apt-get commands and what you see after run and get a yes or no option to install are a clue on this. lookm closely at them, if you see any held packages check on these first before continuing. The basic reason is the developer base is large with ay time groups not connected to a specific app or dependencies are working together although not on the same team. So at time an upgrade will be
[22:15] <Beldar> missing a dependency, this will show as a held package E.G partial upgrade. This is easy to understand I think you can do it. ;)
[22:15] <Beldar> in spite of my misspelling
[22:16] <pentel> Bashing-om the xorg version is 1.15.1
[22:17] <Beldar> frezix, Really on any OS, you want to have backed up to the point that any failure type is addressable, including bricking the whole unit.
[22:18] <Guest55564> guys, im using a eee pc and i dont even found a sound card on lspci. can someone help?
[22:18] <frezix> Beldar: yeah I'm working on bootstrapping a backup solution. Not quite there yet though unfortunately.
[22:18] <Beldar> !sound | Guest55564
[22:19] <xar> can someone help me on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/516867/how-to-display-the-skype-indicator-on-the-status-top-bar?noredirect=1#comment701463_516867 please ?
[22:19] <Beldar> frezix, There are easier ways, always be prepared. ;)
[22:19] <frezix> Beldar: so in essence I should be wary of upgrades if there's a held package and I should wait accordingly until it's not held back?
[22:19] <frezix> yeah true
[22:19] <Bashing-om> pentel: That means with the m4520 card you are restricted to open source driver.
[22:19] <kirmair> a
[22:19] <kirmair> a
[22:19] <kirmair> a
[22:19] <kirmair> a
[22:19] <kirmair> a
[22:19] <kirmair> a
[22:19] <unopaste> kirmair you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:20] <Beldar> frezix, Basically yes, I rarely have a held upgrade package, most of the time it is ajust a dependency missing that shows up within a day or so.
[22:21] <frezix> cool, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks :)
[22:23] <Beldar> frezix, However I'm running pretty much  just the ubuntu repos. If you start adding 3rd party repos and other packages which may be different versions than stock this can cause issues in regular updates/upgrades and a release upgrade.
[22:23] <zzxc> \quit
[22:24] <Beldar> frezix, My only concern for you was more info to work with, rather than a brick wall of you don't understand, when you obviously can. ;)
[22:24] <thslinuxlite> hello
[22:26] <thslinuxlite> i have Linux Lite 2.0 and downloaded a bunch of wallpapers anyone know how to get them to work as wallpapers?
[22:26] <calisto_> Heya
[22:26] <calisto_> I need help with Xfce on Ubuntu (not Xubuntu, real Ubuntu)=
[22:26] <calisto_> I have gedit and other metacity/gnome apps
[22:26] <calisto_> and they look terrible on Xfce XD
[22:27] <Beldar> thslinuxlite, This is ubuntu support
[22:27] <ObrienDave> calisto_, Xubuntu IS real Ubuntu
[22:27] <frezix> Beldar: ah I see. I might use something like docker for the purpose of 3rd party stuff then. Thanks for giving me a heads up :)
[22:27] <Calisto`> ObrienDave: Well, i mean the Unity/GNOME equiped Ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[22:27] <thslinuxlite> sorry but kinda new at this Lite is bassed on Ubunto i think
[22:27] <Beldar> thslinuxlite, Register with freenode and try ##linux or see if there is a channel for that OS.
[22:28] <Calisto`> thslinuxlite which os do you need support for?
[22:28] <Calisto`> Maye i know the chan :D
[22:28] <thslinuxlite> Linux Lite
[22:29] <Calisto`> mmh
[22:29] <thslinuxlite> sorry got to go wife says time to eat :)
[22:29] <Calisto`> wait a moment
[22:29] <Calisto`> lol
[22:29]  * Beldar wishes they had a 1000$ for every linux distro having been made over 1000
[22:29] <Calisto`> Ok, Linuxlite just closed irc support :P
[22:29] <Calisto`> 1000$ for linux? hum?
[22:29] <ObrienDave> oh my
[22:30] <Beldar> lump cash
[22:30] <ErbBetaPatched> Xubuntu is best buntu
[22:30] <Beldar> it is a metaphor
[22:30] <ObrienDave> !best | ErbBetaPatched
[22:31] <ObrienDave> oh sheesh, who messed with ubottu?
[22:31] <Beldar> !cookie | ObrienDave
[22:31] <ObrienDave> ;P
[22:32] <Beldar> just testing
[22:32] <ObrienDave> test this ;P
[22:32] <ObrienDave> !42
[22:35] <trindaz> browsing a directory structure. What's the "best" way to do that? typing out `cd [name]` then 'ls' then `cd ..` is getting a little tedious
[22:35] <joshsamuelson> like tree?
[22:35] <trindaz> find . -maxdepth 1 and find . -maxdepth 2 weren't so great
[22:35] <Alex_ander> thats how i do it too, trindaz.. im excited for an answer, haha
[22:35] <trindaz> maybe. what's tree?
[22:35] <ObrienDave> use a gui file manager?
[22:36] <trindaz> I want to confine myself to command line only so that everything I learn is AWS friendly
[22:36] <joshsamuelson> it'll show you the subdirectories and files in a tree
[22:36] <joshsamuelson> you'll probably have to install it first
[22:37] <tsimpson> trindaz: 'ls -lAR' will recursively list everything in the directory
[22:37] <trindaz> `tree` works great, but `man tree` says there's no manual! how is that possible?
[22:37] <joshsamuelson> meh, I dunno
[22:38] <joshsamuelson> weird, man tree works for me
[22:38] <Alex_ander> thanks tsimpson
[22:39] <Alex_ander> thats really cool
[22:41] <_Doktor_> is it possible to install a windows 7/8 image for qemu without installed x11 desktop (ubuntu server lts)?
[22:41] <_Doktor_> I have not windows image yet...so I have to "boot" an empty image and have to install windows on it....
[22:45] <Blenda> Guys 'n Girls, wish you a good day/night, time to bed here! Thanks a lot again for all your invaluable help, and see ya :)
[22:59] <professor_> olla!
[23:00] <fredman> Anyone here using gnome-shell on ubuntu 14.04? I find it more stable than unity tbh
[23:02] <kostkon> fredman, if you have a support question, just state your problem
[23:05] <q_a_z_steve> hey, I am trying to work through the guide http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ... After I use dd it pops up that this volume needs initialized??? I can't get the USB to boot on the target machine.
[23:09] <Beldar> fredman, Try #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[23:11] <a_p3rson1> Having some problems with Teamviewer - logging in to a Teamviewer account isn't remembered between restarts, it always asks me to log in again. Any ideas? Running 14.04, also, Teamviewer runs through Wine on all linux distros, if that helps.
[23:13] <Beldar> q_a_z_steve, Is there an make a partition active in apple, linux it is a boot flag, windows calls it active.
[23:14] <q_a_z_steve> I don't think I have ever seen that.
[23:15] <Beldar> q_a_z_steve, That link does not explicitly name the file type in it's instructions is one built, I'm not sure what it should be in your context.
[23:16] <Beldar> q_a_z_steve, I have seen a more verbose method for loading a usb, rather than a dd in general.
[23:16] <q_a_z_steve> Filetype as far as...
[23:16] <Beldar> an apple type a fat32...etc
[23:18] <q_a_z_steve> Well that was a thought, but I've tried a few formats for the initial. Obviously it changes once I dd.
[23:19] <OerHeks> a_p3rson1, use the linux version for ubuntu, else ask in #winehq
[23:20] <OerHeks> !wine
[23:20] <TJ-> q_a_z_steve: Those instructions are for creating a USB device that will boot *a Mac* not a PC
[23:21] <a_p3rson1> OerHeks: The linux version is bundled with (a customized version of) Wine, so there isn't a native linux package per se (only one based on Wine). I'm also in #winehq.
[23:21] <TJ-> q_a_z_steve: If you want to boot a regular ISA PC, ommit the "hdiutil" step 3 and go to step 4
[23:21] <q_a_z_steve> TJ-: I highly doubt it would work either way, since the drive doesn't show up correctly upon completion.
[23:21] <q_a_z_steve> maybe I'll try /dev/disk rather than rdisk
[23:22] <TJ-> q_a_z_steve: how the USB device is seen by Mac might have no bearing on how the image is booted by a PC, provided all the bytes are written to the raw device
[23:23] <a_p3rson1> OerHeks: Unless you can think of a different channel I should ask in. Pretty sure TeamViewer doesn't have one.
[23:23] <q_a_z_steve> I assume so, I'm just expecting not to have an error. I believe I've done this before... I kind of expect a WUBI pop up in Windows...
[23:24] <q_a_z_steve> At this point it's not worth worrying about - I'll just burn a dvd.
[23:24] <ObrienDave> someone PLEASE shoot wubi ;P
[23:24] <TJ-> q_a_z_steve: Wubi isn't used any more
[23:24] <eeee> i think wubi was discontinued a while ago
[23:24] <hey_joe> use unetbootin
[23:24] <q_a_z_steve> oh ok.
[23:24] <ObrienDave> it's still in the release ISOs
[23:24] <hey_joe> not in anything recent
[23:24] <TJ-> q_a_z_steve: The image will boot directly at power-on if the USB device is the first boot device for the PC
[23:25] <TJ-> ObrienDave: really? I didn't notice it last time I looked :)
[23:25] <q_a_z_steve> I'm mostly sure I've got the BIOS set for that. I wish I had F8 boot options...
[23:25] <a_p3rson1> q_a_z_steve: What kind of BIOS doesn't let you change your boot device on the fly?
[23:26] <ObrienDave> TJ-, yup, in 14.04.1 ISO
[23:26] <xar> how to write » via keyboard please ?
[23:26] <q_a_z_steve> a_p3rson1: I've only got a split second, you know how it is. I messed with it to get USB emulation over to HDD... Seems likely it would work just fine. AMI...
[23:26] <ObrienDave> TJ-, i have ALL 14.04.1 ISOs ;P
[23:26] <TJ-> ObrienDave: Yeah; mounted an image to check - shows how much I miss :)
[23:26] <xar> how to write » via keyboard please ?
[23:27] <q_a_z_steve> !patience
[23:28] <q_a_z_steve> I'll see what happens and try more later. Thanks folks.
[23:29] <eeee> xar press ctrl  + shift and type u, then release them and type 00BB , and press space
[23:29] <OerHeks> xar complete list https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable
[23:30] <TJ-> Grrr, trying to get "gpg --verify" to display the Message Digest hash shouldn't be this difficult!
[23:43] <xar> how to split windows horizontally using tmux, please ?
[23:43] <l_r> do i have full control with graphical installation?
[23:43] <l_r> sorry
[23:43] <l_r> bad channel
[23:43] <xar> how to split windows horizontally using tmux, please ?
[23:44] <cynicallemon> xar: man tmux  - your best friend
[23:44] <enchilado> Google is also helpful
[23:45] <enchilado> Top result for "tmux horizontal split": http://lukaszwrobel.pl/blog/tmux-tutorial-split-terminal-windows-easily
[23:45] <xar> cynicallemon, thank you so much !!!
[23:50] <godbod> hello world
[23:50] <kostkon> godbod, hi
[23:52]  * cynicallemon thinks godbod is c code
[23:52] <ne0> anyone know how to fix iso mount error?
[23:53] <cynicallemon> ne0: maybe if you elaborate some more
[23:53] <ne0> ok
[23:54] <ne0> a couple of days ago i had mounted an iso using the context menu and my computer froze so i did a hard reboot
[23:54] <ne0> ever since then i get an error when trying to mount this iso
[23:55] <ne0> other iso's work fine
[23:58] <ObrienDave> you probably trashed the ISO
[23:59] <sakamop> hi. From terminal, how I can I determine my locale and whether it is utf-8?