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lordievaderGood morning.08:28
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sgclarkmorning08:34
lordievaderHey sgclark, how are you?08:36
sgclarkpretty good. tired lol, new schedule taking some getting used to08:37
lordievaderWhoo, Beta one is still up for testing. Should do some testing today :)08:39
Riddellyes please lordievader :)08:40
valorieoh my gosh, you are on euro-sched, sgclark?08:40
sgclarkyeah valorie08:40
valoriewoman of iron08:40
valorieI can't do that08:41
sgclarkbedtime @ 4pm lol08:41
valorieuntil I get there08:41
sgclarkkinda works actually , my husband works nights08:41
valorieI hope that works for ya08:41
sgclarkhardest part is staying asleep 8 hours08:41
valoriemy way works for me....08:42
sgclarkeither way we are both up in the middle of the night lol08:45
valorieyes, but I'm about to head to bed08:46
sgclarkahh gotcha08:46
lordievaderRiddell: Will do ;)08:49
shadeslayerRiddell: might want to revert ubiquity for the time being bte09:09
shadeslayer*btw09:09
Riddellshadeslayer: oh?09:10
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah, you can't get past ubiquity-dm now09:10
shadeslayerAt least I could not last night09:11
shadeslayerRiddell: sorry :(09:14
shadeslayerScottK: why is a FFe required for the IO scheduler change, its a bug fix release 09:15
Riddellshadeslayer: yep I agree, just comes back to ubiquity-dm09:15
Riddellhmm09:16
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah, so you could spend some time investigating that, or revert and postpone for after09:16
* apachelogger points out that this could be a sign sddm crashing09:17
shadeslayerRiddell: alternatively we ask people to boot without maybe-ubiquity09:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: no logs in /var/log/sddm09:18
Riddellnothing in the logs about ubiquity-dm09:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: doesn't that make it even more likely :P09:20
shadeslayerTrue :p09:20
apacheloggerhm09:20
apacheloggershadeslayer: actually, fix the sddm upstart unit09:21
apacheloggerit appears to me that'll also fix the issue t hand09:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: what's wrong?09:21
apacheloggeras I said in the past: it should be a slightly adjusted copy of lightdm09:21
apacheloggerin fact I am reasonable certain the loop hapens because the exec sddm is inside an if which is molto wrong09:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: no it's not09:24
shadeslayeratleast indentation indicates it's not09:25
shadeslayeroh09:26
shadeslayeroh09:26
shadeslayerI see 09:26
shadeslayerlets see09:26
shadeslayerargh09:33
shadeslayerstupid sddm 09:33
Riddellwhat's it doing?09:33
shadeslayernot starting09:33
shadeslayeri.e. sudo service sddm start doesn't work09:33
yofelintel?09:33
shadeslayervbox09:33
yofelhm09:33
apacheloggershadeslayer: the version I see has it in the if09:35
apacheloggeralso random noting: a) clearing tty7 while sddm always starts on tty1 is a bit pointless b) since ubiquity-dm runs on tty7 (presumably) switching to tty1 for sddm might very well involve substantial flickering and mode setting09:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: the clear stuff is for plymouth09:44
shadeslayerplymouth is on tty709:45
yofelwhy is sddm on tty1 again?09:46
shadeslayeryofel: no clue, that's the default, and I dont see a way to change it09:46
yofelmaybe talk to upstream? AFAIK there's a bunch of things that expect X/DM to run on tty709:47
shadeslayerd_ed: ^^09:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sddm/revision/4209:48
shadeslayerdoes that look right now09:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: though I can't test because sddm doesn't really start after I stop it and edit the upstart conf -.-09:49
yofelif 'sudo sddm' doesn't do anything either you have greeter problems09:49
yofelor driver whatever09:50
shadeslayersudo sddm works09:51
shadeslayerbut thats useless09:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: better, plymouth quit apparently needs a runlevel check btw09:57
apacheloggeror so lightdm does09:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: will do, but first10:01
shadeslayerRiddell: want to rebuild the ISO's?10:01
shadeslayerafter sddm builds10:01
Riddellshadeslayer: ooh?10:03
Riddellyou fixed it?10:03
shadeslayermaybe10:03
shadeslayerI can't really test10:03
shadeslayerupstart job doesn't want to restart for some reason10:04
Riddellmm, testing ubiquity-dm is very faffy10:04
shadeslayer^^10:04
Riddellhow do you even switch from X to a linux console in virtualbox?10:04
shadeslayerRiddell: anyway, package should be up in ~10 minutes at which point you can rebuild ISO's10:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: you need to forcefully kill ubiquity10:04
apacheloggerand X10:05
shadeslayerhost key + F110:05
apacheloggerand sleep somewhere in between10:05
Riddelllooks like it's up now10:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: in the init script?10:05
apacheloggerno before you can restart ubiquity-dm10:05
apacheloggerRiddell could grep his logs, I told him the command at some point10:06
apacheloggerwhy is there no kdev ruby10:07
shadeslayerthere is10:07
apacheloggerwhat sort of evil ploy is this10:07
shadeslayerit's not packaged10:07
apacheloggernot packaged there isnt10:07
shadeslayeryeah10:08
shadeslayeranyway, I am off to the doctor, Riddell plz test if the sddm fix works, because force killing Xorg and ubiquity-dm doesn't work for me ( after updating the init script )10:08
shadeslayercya after lunch10:09
Riddellshadeslayer: doesn't seem to help :(11:04
shadeslayerRiddell: revert ubiquity then11:11
BluesKajHI all11:11
alvinI'm sorry for bothering you guys with this, but someone here will probably know it. I'm trying to use the program backportpackage from  ubuntu-dev-tools, but launchpad  rejects my upload because packages 'username@hostname' can't be identified. I tried setting DEBEMAIL and UBUMAIL in ~/.devscripts, but those values are ignored. (whilst DEBSIGN_KEYID is accepted). Any idea where I have to set my email for this?11:12
shadeslayeralvin: needs exporting11:13
shadeslayerPut it in your bashrc or equivalent11:13
alvinshadeslayer: Thanks, but I actually already tried that. Those 2 are in my environment. (I can do echo $DEBEMAIL)11:13
shadeslayerHm11:14
shadeslayerNo clue then11:14
alvinAnd strange enough, it all works on another Kubuntu machine, where the values are not exported, so I'm guessing the other computer uses ~/.devscripts11:14
shadeslayerOdd11:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8168085/ xD11:15
shadeslayeralvin: try passing them to backportpackage via the command line?11:15
alvinIndeed. Been searching for hours. I just copied the .devscripts file from the other computer too.11:15
alvinshadeslayer: Well, that should work. I'll try it. But I would really like to know what's different here.11:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: is it a spaceship11:16
apacheloggera jenkins+lxc based spaceship11:16
shadeslayerYeah, much cool11:16
shadeslayerRiddell: Better Together - Luke Wright on Scottish Indepen…: http://youtu.be/g_1ugSSiqsE11:18
shadeslayerRiddell: ubiquity reverted yet ?11:32
BluesKajseriously considering reverting to plasma 4 on my desktop pc ... plasma 5 isn't configurable enough even for testing. I don't like the look at all. It's extremely bland and I don't consider myself any more visually oriented than the norm.11:58
apacheloggerBluesKaj: reckon one should file bugs and/or send mails 12:01
BluesKajapachelogger, the bugs are obvious ..nothing works in terms of colours or themes except the defaults12:02
apacheloggerobvious != reported12:03
sgclarkhmm I can select colors otherr than default12:03
sgclarkAre you using the new ISO, just curious?12:04
BluesKajyou can select but do the colours change ?12:04
sgclarkyup12:04
BluesKajsgclark, yes12:04
BluesKajtheyt don't here12:04
apacheloggerreckon one should be filing a bug12:05
sgclarkBluesKaj: ok, perhaps something there, I am not, I tossed it after no power settings12:05
sgclarkwhat apachelogger said ^12:05
sgclarksomething is definitely not right12:06
BluesKajsome things are not right :)12:06
Riddellshadeslayer: no I think we can just release note that you need to remove maybe-ubiquity, it's the first beta of a tech preview so that's fine for me12:07
shadeslayerI dont think that's acceptable , but you are the release manager12:07
shadeslayerNo one reads the release notes12:08
apacheloggerlook how professionally I abused cppcheck to get lintian data into jenkins xD http://i.imgur.com/547rtVR.png12:08
shadeslayerFact12:08
Riddellsgclark, apachelogger: straw poll for plasma 5, revert ubiquity or tell people to remove maybe-ubiquity from boot line?12:08
apacheloggerrevert12:08
sgclarkIMO telling people to remove things from bootline can end badly12:08
apacheloggertesting really shouldn't be *more* of an effort than it already is :P12:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: not upworthy enough12:09
Riddellok I'll revert and rebuild12:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: what is an upworthy?12:09
shadeslayerhttp://www.upworthy.com/12:10
apacheloggerinternet weird12:11
shadeslayerYes12:11
apachelogger1 out of 1 hunk FAILED12:13
apacheloggerpatching file startkde/CMakeLists.txt12:13
apacheloggergod I love patches12:13
shadeslayer"patches are awesome" apachelogger circa 201412:23
apacheloggerthat's not what I said now is it12:27
apacheloggeruh12:42
apacheloggerthe patch has a fuzz12:43
apacheloggeromg12:43
apacheloggerworld will end right here right now12:43
Riddellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Beta1/Kubuntu ← proofreaders needed!13:27
jmuxRiddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/releases/utopic as the KDE5 link is broken13:34
Riddelljmux: right I'm hoping that's where it'll appear once it's published but nothing is published yet13:35
Riddellstill testing for now13:35
jmuxMy 6 students started development with "EasyHacks" on LO this week, so I hope I can find one starting on the KDE5 backend in two weeks...13:38
Riddelljmux: ooh nice13:38
* jmux + 2 collegues + the students will be on the LLOconf in Bern next week13:38
Riddelljmux: probably the easier way to start will be with the breeze icon theme13:38
Riddelljmux: then the widgets for the brave13:39
Riddelljmux: do you know how themes get set for libreoffice?  We have the oxygen theme installed on the kubuntu-plasma5 image but it doesn't get picked13:39
jmuxRiddell: I know there was a bug regarding icon themes a few weeks ago changing the theme pickup - sek - have to check the ML.13:40
jmuxThey dropped a bunch of defaults and changed some stuff to fix it on MS Win13:41
jmuxRiddell: Guess this'll take a little buit longer, as I have to leave for a call. I'll check after the call and report back.13:46
shadeslayerRiddell: did the ISO rebuilds go through? 14:13
shadeslayerLast one I see has 2.19.314:14
shadeslayerUbiquity  that is14:14
Riddellshadeslayer: 2.19.4 just landed and I started a rebuild14:15
Riddellshould appear shortly14:15
shadeslayerOkie14:15
Riddellnot a fast process this14:15
shadeslayerKeep a eye on those basis 14:15
Riddellshadeslayer: do you think the permissions issues we saw will have gone?14:15
shadeslayer*beasties 14:16
shadeslayerRiddell: should go away 14:16
Riddellshadeslayer: was that something up in sddm ?14:16
shadeslayerI think so14:16
shadeslayerWe will find out soon enough :p14:16
Riddell:)14:17
shadeslayerRiddell: good news,  I don't have a cold14:17
Riddellumm..14:17
shadeslayerThough I still have to take drugs to keep my throat from exploding14:17
Riddellbut if you're ill that means you have something else?14:17
shadeslayerYeah,  throat inflammation 14:17
Riddellbut not caused by a cold virus?14:18
shadeslayerYep14:18
Riddellthat sounds like a symptom rather than a diagnosis14:18
RiddellI know.. I've seen House enough times14:18
shadeslayer:P14:19
shadeslayerWell they gave me drugs and sent me home,  good enough for ne14:19
shadeslayer*me14:19
shadeslayerRiddell: could be a general inflammation from something in the air14:20
Riddell..like a cold virus :)14:20
Riddellmaybe it's lupus?14:21
Riddell(there's always a suggestion of lupus in House)14:21
shadeslayer*shrug* could be that I had a cold.... 14:21
shadeslayerLol14:21
shadeslayerYeah lupus :p14:21
shadeslayerI know :p14:21
QuintasanHi14:21
RiddellMichael!14:21
QuintasanIt is I!14:22
Riddellwhat's going on here? http://paste.kde.org/povko21ly  why can't I run cmake to compile this qt5 app?14:22
RiddellQuintasan: just in time to test the plasma 5 images?14:23
Quintasanplasma 5 you say?14:23
QuintasanI'm downloading the regular image as we speak14:23
QuintasanMight as well as test the new one.14:23
RiddellQuintasan: great, new one should appear shortly so zsync that when it appears, current one is dead14:25
Riddellor you mean the plasma4 image? that needs testing too :)14:26
QuintasanI'll test both14:27
Riddellyay14:28
Riddelloh and upgrade on i386 still needs tested :)14:28
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BluesKajok plasma4 back on the desktop. I'll stick to testing this since it's more to my taste.14:42
apacheloggerdid you file bugs?14:46
Riddelloh I've started logging plasma5 bugs under kubuntu-ppa and tagged plasma514:50
apacheloggerxD14:51
apacheloggerI just did a solid build from jenkins14:51
apacheloggermuhahaha14:51
kdeuser56is it decided yet if neon has a future?14:52
Riddellwhy is that worthy of a muhahaha?14:52
apacheloggerwhy wouldn't it be?14:53
Riddellwell doesn't jenkins build solid all the time?14:54
Riddellalong with everything else?14:54
Riddellor is this a special package of solid from CP?14:54
apacheloggerCP14:55
apachelogger" Wrapper around checkUpload for the web service API. " such documentation14:57
jmuxRiddell: Current Icon theme is read from KDE4 global config: http://paste.debian.net/118013/15:00
Riddellah so the oxygen theme looks for what to set the icon theme?15:01
Riddellmaybe oxygen theme not working because oxygen qt4 theme isn't installed stops it finding the icon theme15:01
jmuxRiddell: This is the LO internal settings. AFAIK you need to place a ZIP file with the icons. This doesn't use any system icons.15:06
jmuxIn my development installation I have instdir/share/config/images_oxygen.zip. 15:07
jmuxMy Debian Wheezy has the zips in /usr/share/libreoffice/share/config/15:08
jmuxAFAIK current master LO (4.4) dropped the "image_" prefix of the zips. Just saw that the LO oxygen style is in pkg libreoffice-style-oxygen in trusty15:10
QuintasanChrist the USB creator is so horrible15:11
jmuxRiddell: Path to lo oxygen zip in trusty is /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/config/images_oxygen.zip15:11
yofelfix it? ^^15:11
yofelJonathan wanted to remove it from the seed15:11
QuintasanHorrible I say15:12
QuintasanIt's pythj15:12
Quintasanpython15:12
yofelwell, that's bad, not horrible...15:12
QuintasanI can take a look at that but don't expect anything15:13
yofelrather ask for more pressing things to waste your time on15:13
RiddellQuintasan: I did remove it from the plasma5 seed but since it's horribly broken (both gtk and qt frontends) I guess it should be removed entirely15:16
Riddellor fixed15:16
QuintasanI'd say the latter15:16
QuintasanIf the gtk is broken as well then let's just say lol nope15:16
QuintasanI use mkusb anyways15:16
RiddellI do think it's important to fix so that would be much appreciated if you could look at it15:16
Riddellwhat's mkusb?15:16
Quintasanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195807315:17
Riddellhmm, a shell script15:17
Riddellhardly something I'd be keen to advocate to our users15:17
Riddellbut it makes me really sad to be shipping broken software or telling people to use dd :(15:19
Riddellespecially where that software is needed to install the OS at all15:21
QuintasanRiddell: Funny thing is that dd has the higest success rate if you manage to choose the device wisely15:23
QuintasanIt just works 15:23
yofelhighest success and highest danger rate ^^15:24
RiddellI noticed myself typing of=/dev/sdb yesterday, good thing I did as that's the new SSD disk I installed15:26
Quintasanhmm15:28
Quintasanthe installer fails here15:28
Quintasan(plasma 5)15:28
RiddellQuintasan: what language?15:28
QuintasanPolish15:28
Riddellyeah known bug, non-english is broken :(15:29
QuintasanI'll just install utopic plasma 4 and work on top of that15:29
Riddellit's just as broken there15:29
Riddellthat obviously needs fixed15:29
Riddellbug 118278415:29
ubottubug 1182784 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install with non English language fails on Keyboard: "ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 141" or "Installer Crashed"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118278415:29
QuintasanChrist.15:32
QuintasanThere are virtually no logs for this15:35
QuintasanBloody hell all those people +1'ing it15:35
Riddellshadeslayer: yay premissions issue fixed in plasma515:37
RiddellQuintasan: seems there are people out there who don't speak english15:37
QuintasanRiddell: Yes, but +1'ing it in comments without any backtrace is not very useful15:37
Riddellshrug, it makes people happy, look how popular the Like button is on facebook15:38
yofelthere's an affects me button at the top...15:38
yofelmaybe we should make that neon yellow15:38
Riddellhmm powerdevil not great https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33767416:24
ubottuKDE bug 337674 in general "kded5 is eating CPU" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]16:24
kdeuser56Riddell: yeah :-(16:40
kdeuser56Riddell: makes utopic-plasma5 no pleasure16:40
Riddellso bugs for plasma5 images.. in kubuntu-ppa product and tagged plasma5 ?17:02
Riddelluh, plasma5 i386 has the permissions problem :(17:29
Riddellwhat the heck?17:29
Riddellshadeslayer: any idea why i386 would but not amd64?17:29
Riddellwait.. it does work in virtualbox 17:35
Riddellmaybe I got my dd command wrong!17:35
* Riddell checks he still has a functioning hard disk17:35
* apachelogger has failing jenkins jobs when the launchpad build fails \o/17:35
Riddellapachelogger: sweet!17:37
Riddellanyone used unetbootin? should we use it instead of usb-creator-kde?17:43
RiddellQuintasan: ↑17:43
apacheloggersomeone could like fix usb-creator maybe17:45
Riddellsudo dd if=kubuntu5-201408281428-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sde17:49
apacheloggerRiddell: u using uefi maybe?17:50
apacheloggeractulaly17:50
apacheloggerRiddell: did you try in vbox simply?17:50
Riddellapachelogger: yes it's using uefi17:51
apacheloggerRiddell: that iso wouldn't support uefi17:52
Riddellmy virtualbox is busy with plasma5 tests but should be free in a bit17:52
apacheloggerkthx17:52
Riddellmeh but I still can't get kubuntu-plasma5 i386 to work on real hardware, this is weird17:52
Riddellshadeslayer: I think I can hear your heartbeat17:54
RiddellI take it back about unetbootin, I can't work out how to copy the ISO to my usb drive17:59
Riddellsgclark: I don't suppose you can test kubuntu-plasma5 i386 ISO?18:02
Riddellor anyone else?18:02
sgclarkI am fixing packaging for powerdevil atm and half asleep, only got 4 hours sleep :(18:07
Riddellsgclark: fair enough then18:08
Riddellsgclark: you think there's a packaging issue?18:08
Riddellapachelogger: your iso boots into plasma 5 all good18:08
sgclarkyup, we had d-bus file in -dev package18:08
Riddellhmm, dbus files are tricksy, there's a few different types18:09
Riddellapachelogger: want me to check anything?18:09
sgclarkI went through that thread18:09
sgclarkand this one needs to be around at runtime18:09
apacheloggerRiddell: that's it thanks18:10
Riddellkubuntu-plasma5 iso definately busted on i38618:14
sgclarkRiddell: and I don't know that this will end all issues, it sounds like there is more to that story18:15
Riddellyeah I don't think it will but let's see what happens18:15
Riddellkubuntu-plasma5 iso definately works on amd6418:16
Riddellthat is weird18:16
Riddellmega weird18:16
d_edon different machines or the same iso in two places?18:17
d_edlet me try again..18:17
d_edon different machines or the same machine with two ISOs18:17
Riddelld_ed: virtualbox and real hardware18:20
Riddellweird permissions issue exists on i386 but not on amd6418:20
Riddelland that's after I reverted the ubiquity-dm not being able to transition to sddm issue (so it doesn't load ubiquity-dm now)18:21
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Riddellsgclark: I reported bug 1362756 and bug 136275118:40
ubottubug 1362756 in Kubuntu PPA "powermanagement kcm broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136275618:40
ubottubug 1362751 in Kubuntu PPA "powerdevil makes kded have 100% CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136275118:40
sgclarkRiddell: ok. I don't seem to have second issue. As for the first yeah all the logs say powermanagement loaded successfully...18:44
ahoneybunhey Riddell sgclark18:44
sgclarkhey ahoneybun18:44
Riddellhi ahoneybun, you're just in time for the first beta release featuring plasma5 images18:44
ahoneybunRiddell: am I ?18:45
Riddelland to fix the 12 bugs I just reported :) http://goo.gl/B527rj18:45
sgclarkRiddell: I will download the new images and test first thing in the morning err night err whatever I am lol. I should hopefully get more than 4 hours sleep18:46
ahoneybunRiddell: I think you know I know nothing of bug fixing18:46
Riddellsgclark: we'll be releasing in an hour or so, so it's not urgent after that but more testing always good18:48
sgclarkRiddell: ahh ok my apologies then, new schedule was going fine till last night.18:49
sgclarkmaybe I will try my hand at a bug or two :)18:51
Riddellahoneybun: but you can.. proofread! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Beta1/Kubuntu18:54
ahoneybunRiddell: is there anything else to do for the Docs>18:55
ahoneybunRiddell: there are doubles of (1362598) No Install icon on desktop  and (1362599) ubiquity-dm does not run on kubuntu plasma5 images 18:56
ahoneybunplus the kde plasma 5 link is dead18:57
Riddellsgclark: bug 1362752 will test your shell scripting :)18:57
ubottubug 1362752 in Kubuntu PPA "no SDDM autologin even if ubiquity box is set" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136275218:57
Riddellahoneybun: plasma5 link should come alive once it's published18:57
ahoneybunok18:57
Riddellahoneybun: duplicate links killed thanks18:58
ahoneybunRiddell: sweet18:58
Riddellahoneybun: I don't think docs have been touched this cycle18:58
ahoneybunthey have not18:58
ahoneybunI wish that docs.kubuntu.org could look better18:58
sgclarkI thought we moved to wiki?18:59
Riddellthe kubuntu-docs document is still docbook generating html for khelpcenter and docs.kubuntu.org18:59
sgclarkRiddell: challenge accepted18:59
sgclarktomorrow that is, off to relax a few and get some sleep.19:01
Riddellsleep well19:06
MichaelPI downloaded a ISO the otherday. that was to supose to be plasma5 but it turned out to be kde 4.14.... is kubuntu using the ppa repo or it's own for that ?19:44
RiddellMichaelP: the use our own PPA for plasma 519:48
RiddellMichaelP: you just downloaded the wrong ISO, the right one will have plasma 5 on it19:49
MichaelPRiddell: i clicked on the plasma 5 32 bit....19:50
Riddellbut the md5 you posted was for the plasma 4 image :)19:50
MichaelPmaybe the iso on the 32 bit was mixed up in the directory on the server19:51
kdeuser56Riddell: how can I checkout the source for the kubuntu ubiquity installer? simply check out ubiquity?19:52
MichaelPSo it still using the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next repo19:53
kdeuser56Riddell: nevermind19:53
RiddellMichaelP: yep19:54
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MichaelPRiddell: i notice on kde site it says apt update ...apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop ... apt full upgrade..... another site says... apt update ... apt dist-upgrade ... apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop  .... whats the right way19:58
MichaelPthe dist-upgrade or full-upgrade19:58
yofelonly aptitude has full-upgrade, apt would be dist-upgrade (they both pretty much do the same thing)20:00
yofeler20:01
yofelapt does have full-upgrade actually (when did they add that...)20:01
yofelso it doesn't really matter what you use, both ways get you to the same destination20:01
MichaelPjust woundered... cause i done apt apt full-upgrade before.. and ended up having to still upgrade plasma-desktop in order to have plasma in login screen20:03
Riddellapt full-upgrade  or  apt-get dist-upgrade20:06
RiddellI like the new "apt" over "apt-get" now20:06
Riddellexcept it doesn't do everything20:06
RiddellMichaelP: what sites are you looking at?20:07
MichaelPhttp://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/08/kubuntu-plasma-5-14-10-utopic-unicorn-daily-build-released/     ....    https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu20:07
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Riddelloh he left20:20
MichaelPfinaly power management working in plasma520:21
Riddelloh?20:24
Riddellmaybe sgclark did some magic for it20:24
kdeuser56where is dolphin now in frameworks? (not the kde version)20:27
kdeuser56is there a git repository?20:27
kdeuser56(not the kde4 version I meant:-)20:28
shadeslayerkde-baseapps I think20:28
shadeslayeruse the frameworks branch20:28
Riddell#20:30
kdeuser56shadeslayer: whats the name of the frameworks branch exactly?20:31
shadeslayerframeworks20:31
kdeuser56shadeslayer: I don't get it ... git clone git://anongit.kde.org/frameworks.git does nothing 20:32
shadeslayerwhat20:32
shadeslayerI said branch?20:32
shadeslayergit clone kde:kde-baseapps --branch frameworks20:32
kdeuser56shadeslayer: oh damn, sorry thanks20:33
shadeslayercheers20:33
* Riddell spots http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/releases/utopic/beta-1/20:53
shadeslayer:320:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: yofel Quintasan be proud : "Yep all I see it called is KDE 5 or KDE plasma 5 or even KDE Neon."20:58
shadeslayerfrom http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2egdof/kde_releases_in_the_future_albert_astals_cid/20:58
shadeslayerwe have a brand around Neon :320:58
yofel:D20:58
yofelwe're amazing \o/20:58
shadeslayer^^20:58
* Riddell spots http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/beta-1/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/releases/utopic/beta-1/ with content21:07
* Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/14.10-beta-121:11
shadeslayerRiddell: shouldn't we be waiting for the ubuntu-announce to go through21:15
Riddellshadeslayer: stgraber gave us the all clear so I pushed21:15
Riddelland I need to cook tea for nim21:15
shadeslayercool21:15
MichaelP14.10 beta1... whats the version.. the one person asked me to help test the otherday ?21:18
Riddellproably a beta 1 candidate21:18
MichaelPi know it's utopic21:18
* Riddell snoozes21:19
ahoneybunoh21:24
MichaelPDo we have to get skype from skype site... onlything i see in repo is empathy-skype and pidgin-skype21:27
yofel!partner21:33
ubottuCanonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »21:33
yofel^ has skype21:33
MichaelPok thanks21:33
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: ping21:37
MichaelPguess all i had to do was put check mark for partner repository from muon21:40
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valorieerrors on upgrading the utopic laptop: http://paste.kde.org/poz1qs9LL23:56

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