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diddledanso my internet seems pretty dead right now since I last spoke at midnight01:34
diddledancurrently I'm tethered via GSM EDGE speed01:34
diddledandamned vodafone having crud connectivity at home01:35
diddledanthere we go02:01
diddledanmucho bettero02:01
diddledanI'm gonna rip the naff sky router out though - it gives me nothing but trouble02:03
shaunodiddledan: you didn't consider, yaknow, just going to sleep?05:48
diddledanlol05:49
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Myrttimläh06:31
Myrttimorning, or something06:31
nigelbsomething.06:46
nigelbtoday falls under something06:46
knightwisemorning everyone06:49
Myrttiapparently the IT support has called Dell to change my laptop screen. I wish they had told me that a biiiit earlier.06:54
knightwisemornin Myrtti07:02
knightwisescreen broken ?07:02
Myrttithrip inside it.07:02
nigelbMy screen scared me the other day.07:03
nigelbI closed the laptop, and then it would only light up very dimly07:03
nigelbfixed itself a few hours later.07:03
knightwiseooh , backlit issue07:03
nigelbyeah.07:03
* knightwise staring at a glassy 10 inch display at the moment07:03
nigelband you know why I closed the laptop?07:03
knightwisenigelb: whyzzz ?07:04
nigelbso I could check my serial number to mark warranty expiration date.07:04
knightwisehaha :)07:04
knightwisei'm trying out a Ms surface pro today ( a Surface 1)07:04
nigelbI was like... yeah, defintiely buying extra warranty when it dies.07:04
nigelbs/dies/exires/07:04
knightwisehmm.. didn't do that on the company mac.07:04
knightwiseapplecare is a ripoff07:04
nigelbI've been told applecare is spectacular.07:06
nigelblenovo is shitty but their support so far has been nice.07:06
shaunoapplecare would be amazing, if they didn't marry it to their "retail experience"07:07
knightwisewe had a pretty good buying experience getting the mac07:08
directhexi have applecare on here. i wonder if they'd be vexed about it running ubuntu07:08
knightwisedidnt buy it in an actual apple store , we only have resellerrs in belgium07:08
knightwiseHahah , saw some benchmarks on how Ubuntu runs faster on the same mac then OSX does07:08
directhexfor some tasks07:09
shaunoknightwise, same in ireland.  that's where applecare fall short.  it works well if you want to treat apple-retail as a drop-in center.  if there's no retail, it gets ugly quick07:09
knightwiseshauno: we shop at a premium reseller , they have their own repair dept , so its pretty ok there07:10
knightwisethey took care of a 2 repairs on a macbook air I once bought07:11
shaunoI had to try to convince them that I really didn't fancy taking a 6 hour bus trip to take my phone to my 'local' store07:11
knightwisetrue.07:12
knightwiseI'm currently hammering away on a surface pro :)07:12
knightwiseI got a surface pro 1 second hand to play around with , need to keep my Windows skills up too.07:12
knightwise8.1 is not bad , and the pro is a half decent machine ..07:12
knightwisebut putty has a very hard time with a high res screen. Font sizing is fuzzy and I feel like i'm drunk when I look at the screen right now07:13
diddledanmorning08:22
foobarrymorning08:27
DJonesYup, it is08:30
DJonesMorning btw08:31
foobarryhave an annoying tickly cough08:31
foobarrycan't stop08:31
foobarryits very undproductive08:32
popeyyo08:49
DJonesfoobarry: I read that free book I got from Amazon last night, turned out to be quite good, seems to be the start of a scifi space opera type of series http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DSD8ZDK/ref=pe_385721_48724741_TE_M1T1DP08:53
awilkinsHmm. Chris Evans was maintaining that this is Pie Day09:13
awilkinsBut internet sources claim it is Bow Tie Day09:13
awilkinsIt's not even British Pie Week!09:15
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:29
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diddledanawilkins, mm pie10:27
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foobarryscifi space opera :-|10:40
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knightwiseafternoon11:28
brobostigonafternoodlings knightwise11:36
shaunommm noodles11:36
knightwisehey brobostigon shauno11:36
knightwisehow are you guys11:36
brobostigoncould be better, could be worse. and you knightwise ?11:36
shaunoI'm in pain.  I'm trying to do this "performance review" tripe.  but I've been told not to try to be funny this time.11:37
* knightwise has accountant whoes11:37
knightwise2 accountants disagreeing on how to organise my company.11:37
brobostigon:(11:37
knightwiseand its all about tax law and crap (and thats not my strong suit)11:38
knightwiseSo i just called in a THIRD opinion.11:38
brobostigonresult?11:38
knightwisestill need to sit with the third party11:39
knightwisegonna run through the numbers with the SECOND opinion guy on monday11:40
knightwiseour original accountant is probably going to get fired.11:40
brobostigonah, i see. good luck.11:41
knightwiseIn other news .. i got a MS surface tablet ! :) Not an RT one, a Pro one.11:41
zmoylan-pishouldn't you just put the 2 accountants in one room and which ever one wins is the winner?11:41
knightwise(second hand) i would never pay money .11:41
knightwisezmoylan-pi: that would probably be a good idea too.. but first we need to make up our own minds where we should be going.11:42
zmoylan-pithe amount of ms hardware i've landed when others have discarded it...11:42
knightwisethe cute thing with this surface is when you run Ubuntu on it in a VM.11:42
knightwiseseems "unnatural"11:42
zmoylan-piwell it is ms on a mobile device so unnatural was a given11:43
knightwisebut in essence its a little I5, 4gig laptop with a 128 SSD drive and high resolution screen.11:43
zmoylan-pican you run linux natively?11:43
knightwiseits not really a mobile device since it doesnt run RT.11:43
knightwisezmoylan-pi: I'm not sure , uefi boot would be in the way i guess11:43
* zmoylan-pi casts ward evil at mention of uefi11:43
knightwisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu0yFGczNY11:44
knightwiseit has been done apparently11:44
knightwiseright now i'm running 8.111:44
knightwiseSince most of my workflows are cross platform friendly its not really important what OS is under the hood.11:45
shaunoI'm loving efi.  I can netboot over wifi!11:45
knightwiseusing mobaxterm as a terminal client at the moment. brilliant app11:45
knightwiseand i let chrome run fullscreen as a metro app , so the thing also feels like a chromebook11:46
zmoylan-pibut nowhere near as cheap11:46
knightwisetrue.11:46
knightwisebut a chromebook is just a thin client . this thing can run VM's :)11:46
knightwise(plus i didnt PAY for it , i traded off an old laptop fo mine for it)11:46
zmoylan-pia chromebook can run linux natively if you really want11:46
knightwisezmoylan-pi: also true. and then we call it a netbook.. (been there done that ? )11:48
zmoylan-pibut few netbooks left on sale so they're my only hope to replace my 4 year old hp 210 netbook11:51
zmoylan-pithough it looks like ms is pushing for new netbooks to counteract chromebooks undercutting them11:52
zmoylan-pias long as they all run linux \o/11:52
knightwisetrue.12:00
zmoylan-pithough if someone made a z88 case that took a rasp pi i'd jump on it in a heart beat12:00
zmoylan-piall console apps, but with modern usb, wifi, sd card slots... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Z8812:02
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BigRedSyeah, I keep wanting a modern psion 5mx before realising that that's a small tablet and a bluetooth keyboard12:11
* zmoylan-pi misses the psions12:12
zmoylan-pirun a week on 2 aa batteries, with full desktop apps, not cut down silly apps12:12
foobarrypsion revo was great12:13
zmoylan-pii think they still sell them12:13
foobarryi read a whole book on it too12:14
foobarrybest agenda software i ever used12:14
zmoylan-pithe psion 3a keyboard has never been beaten12:14
foobarrythen you go on holiday and forget to charge it12:14
foobarryand it loses its memory12:14
zmoylan-piagenda... make a recurring appointment for 3rd wednesday of every 2nd month.  ok...12:14
zmoylan-pinever found a pim that could do that since12:15
zmoylan-piand it understood that every 4th wednesday of the month and last wednesday of the month were not always the same12:16
foobarryand it fit in my suit pocket12:20
zmoylan-pii had a rather expensive leather belt holster for psion 5s.12:20
dwatkinssome companies are making devices with Kindle-like displays which you can write on, I think there's a prototype available in Japan from Sony.12:31
dwatkinshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJuLK65dio12:31
zmoylan-pithere was mention of a 7" screen kit for rasp pi so might have to make my own sub netbook :-)12:33
awilkinsI wanted a PalmOS cart for the Nintendo DS12:34
awilkinsIt would be an awesome organiser12:34
zmoylan-pithe ds really could be an excellent pda/playform if nintendo allowed it12:34
zmoylan-pithe new non folding ds screams for a real keyboard and apps12:35
popeyzmoylan-pi: http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/feature.asp?t=how_to&c=421912:40
zmoylan-pinice12:41
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knightwiseFrack :)12:51
knightwisetype covers for the Surface are only in available in hot pink and hot blue !12:51
diddledanknightwise, pink for you12:52
knightwisediddledan: I thought somebody would say as much12:52
knightwise(don't google knightwise mega-mindy incident)12:52
* diddledan googles knightwise mega-mindy incident12:53
dwatkinsoh my, I may have to do this now - I was just going to use it to control my DSLR...12:53
dwatkinshttp://www.hdrlabs.com/occ/ for details12:54
knightwiseI reinstalled the mac mini last week12:54
knightwisesingle booted it in ubuntu to make a fileserver / vmware server out of it.12:54
knightwisenot bad at all12:54
knightwisebut I had to install the package that runs the fans and temperature control12:55
knightwiseAlmost had my own little meltdown here in the cupboard12:55
diddledanMELTDOWN!12:56
knightwisevery true12:59
awilkinsGBBO ICE CREAM MELTDOWN12:59
foobarrymelton mowbray13:03
zmoylan-pipink makes it less stealable13:03
directhexmsata ssds are tiny13:04
foobarryturns out that they didn't keep records of who's done all this crappy compulsory training13:05
foobarryand they are asking us to tick next to each one we have done \o/13:06
foobarrythats easier than doing the trainign surely13:06
zmoylan-piyou should be made bring all your certificates in! :-)13:06
zmoylan-pifoobarry bsc ssc :-p13:07
foobarryits all this H&S for managers trainign etc13:07
foobarrywhere you have to sit in a room and be bored for a day13:08
foobarrywhen you raise a H&S query it gets ignored13:08
zmoylan-pithat's why pdas were invented, it looked like you were taking notes but actually running simcity.  doesn't work as well with mobile phones :-(13:09
foobarrythis is waht happens when you make me do H&S training13:10
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/3GVfFcz.jpg13:10
awilkinsDS Organizer : includes IRC client. Coolio.13:10
zmoylan-pithought it was going to be buzzword bingo card13:11
zmoylan-pii have a java based irc client on my feature phone :-)13:15
knightwisehmmm. one of my external disks failed on the server14:12
knightwiseperhaps its a good time to get a NAS drive14:12
foobarrymicroserver14:49
diddledan+114:58
diddledanI want a microserver14:58
awilkinsWas all excited to discover that you can get full runtime on AWS for free14:58
awilkinsBut only for 12 months :-(14:58
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Myrttiwell, atleast the good part about the Dell service thing is that I've cleaned a bit, and my mobile's battery has lasted a bit better because I've had to keep the phone in a place where it actually gets some mobile signal.17:03
Myrtti(no, they've not called or been here yet)17:03
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MartijnVdShttp://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/08/28/nightmare-at-the-office/?utm_source=feedly&utm_reader=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nightmare-at-the-office17:17
j0sh^_Hey guys, whats the best way to deal with DNS propagation during a hosting switcheroo? Iptables to redirect old -> new ?19:01
SuperMattj0sh^_: that's quite doable, but personally I just like to lower the ttl to 5 minutes a day before the switch19:16
j0sh^_aye, but client/ISP caching world wide can cause issues19:17
j0sh^_so I want a redirect on old anyway19:17
SuperMatttbh, I tell my customers that any client caching is the client's fault if they see the site down19:18
mappshi all20:02
mapps;]20:03
mappsdamn wifi in this hotel goes eveyr fewmins20:03
mapps;((20:03
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