[00:00] <TJ-> sakamop: "locale"
[00:00] <sakamop> correction: Whether the encoding is utf-8
[00:00] <sakamop> TJ-: Oh that was easy. I feel ashamed for asking. Thank you.
[00:00] <godbod> hello again
[00:02] <ne0> ObrienDave i transferred  the original copy of the  iso from a usb drive and it still didn't work
[00:02] <TJ-> ne0: compare the hash of the image with the hash published on the download site
[00:03] <godbod> how can I mount a usb drive?
[00:04] <ne0> ok one sec
[00:05] <godbod> hemmp
[00:07] <godbod> anyone here?
[00:07] <Adam_ActiveState> godbod: tons of people
[00:07] <ditban> godbod @fdisk -l@ mount /dev/*** /mnt
[00:07] <ObrienDave> no one but us chickens ;P
[00:08] <godbod> ahah okay thanks a lot
[00:08] <ObrienDave> ne0, did that ISO ever work?
[00:11] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know of 'mod_wsgi'?
[00:11] <ne0> ObrienDave no it didn't
[00:12] <jeffreylevesque> for running python flask scripts in apache2?
[00:12] <ne0> checked hash and it is the same as the original
[00:13] <ObrienDave> ne0, which ISO is it?
[00:16] <john_doe_jr1> can I cat a file and then redirect it to pbcopy?
[00:16] <ne0> btw this is what the error message says:  Error mounting /dev/loop0p1 at /media/mjp/BROODWAR: Command-line `mount -t "iso9660" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500" "/dev/loop0p1" "/media/mjp/BROODWAR"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: block device /dev/loop0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[00:16] <ne0> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0p1,
[00:16] <ne0>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[00:16] <ne0>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[00:17] <ne0>        dmesg | tail  or so
[00:17] <jeffreylevesque> if someone assists me setting up flask scripts in apache2, i will document it in my github :)
[00:17] <ne0> ISO is starcraft broodwar
[00:18] <cynicallemon> jeffreylevesque: we want hard cash...
[00:19] <jeffreylevesque> cynicallemon: i will send you a slice of watermellon
[00:19] <ObrienDave> no applause, just throw money ;P
[00:19] <ForeverAprentice> Hello?
[00:20] <ne0> ObrienDave i also tried fsck which fixed a couple errors involving 'superblock' but the problem still persists
[00:20] <ForeverAprentice> I've come looking for help.
[00:20] <ForeverAprentice> With ubuntu 13.04
[00:20] <shuman> so... not for gold or virgins? ;)
[00:21] <ForeverAprentice> Wellll
[00:21]  * cynicallemon slaps ForeverAprentice for even asking to be helped 
[00:21] <shuman> ForeverAprentice: just ask
[00:21] <shuman> :)
[00:22] <ObrienDave> !ask | ForeverAprentice
[00:23] <jeffreylevesque> why y'all so sassy
[00:23] <ObrienDave> it's easy
[00:24] <ForeverAprentice> I wanted to install pidgin. Just installed ubuntu 13.04 from an old iso sitting in my downloads onto the flash which I currently running off of with unetbootin. I have no idea how to go about installing pidgin on this here drive.
[00:25] <shuman> :)
[00:26] <OerHeks> ForeverApprentic, 12.04 is out of support, EOL. use a supported version, 12.04 lts or 14.04 lts
[00:26] <fits_> when buying a laptop for linux,any hardware brand should i consider bfore buying it ?
[00:26] <ObrienDave> ForeverApprentice, sudo apt-get install pidgin
[00:26] <OerHeks> 13.04 repos are down
[00:26] <cynicallemon> that was easy...
[00:27] <ObrienDave> ForeverApprentice, you need to upgrade to 14.04
[00:28] <fits_> when choosing a laptopfor linux any video card spec should i look for ?
[00:29] <ObrienDave> fits_, yes, don't get shared graphics memory
[00:29] <fits_> just wanna make sure before i purchase a laptop its all compatible to linux,but what should i look for
[00:30] <shuman> ForeverApprentic: do you plan to run ubuntu from that flash drive? or you just want to use it to install ubuntu on your hard drive?
[00:30] <ObrienDave> he's gone LOL
[00:31] <ObrienDave> oh, changed nick LOL
[00:31] <shuman> :)
[00:31] <fits_> does all laptop compatible with linux ?
[00:31] <OerHeks> !hcl
[00:31] <shuman> anyway... goo.. goo.. goodnight FOLKS! ;)
[00:32] <fits_> or should i say all laptop hardware are they all compatible to any linux ?
[00:32] <giorgio> jonny
[00:32] <ForeverApprentic> Apologies, my firefox is lagging out.
[00:32] <fits_> thanks ubottu
[00:32] <shuman> :)
[00:32] <ObrienDave> oh lordy
[00:32] <kostkon> ForeverApprentic, why not 14.04?
[00:33] <ForeverApprentic> I used an old iso
[00:33] <ForeverApprentic> I plan on using ubuntu from the flash drive.
[00:33] <ObrienDave> ForeverApprentic, in terminal, do-release-upgrade
[00:33] <ObrienDave> twice to get to 14.04
[00:34] <ForeverApprentic> One moment.
[00:34] <ObrienDave> ForeverApprentic, first time will get you to 13.10. second time will get you 14.04.1
[00:36] <evil_dan2wik> ObrienDave, why in that order?
[00:36] <ForeverApprentic> Alright, it's working on it. ALthough it did state some third party stuff was disabled in my sources list or something. Could that be unetbootin?
[00:36] <ObrienDave> you cant go from 13.04 to 14.04 directly
[00:36] <ObrienDave> ForeverApprentic, no, it disables 13.04 repos
[00:36] <odsent> how do i know if i have a virus?
[00:37] <odsent> would a virus make gifs load really slo?
[00:37] <ObrienDave> not likely
[00:37] <odsent> i'm using windows 8
[00:37] <odsent> i used to use ubuntu, but got frustrated with how installing software was more complicated
[00:37] <ObrienDave> omg, ask in windows, this is UBUNTU support
[00:37]  * cynicallemon thought windows 8 was a vius...
[00:37] <SchrodingersScat> this is ubuntu support, only ubuntu support questions welcome
[00:38] <SchrodingersScat> cynicallemon: it is.
[00:38] <odsent> you have to deal with tar.gz instead of .exe
[00:38] <SchrodingersScat> cynicallemon: still off topic
[00:39] <ObrienDave> evil_dan2wik, you cant go from 13.04 to 14.04 directly
[00:39] <cynicallemon> SchrodingersScat: if he wants to remove it and use ubuntu its on topic.
[00:39] <ForeverApprentic> 5% done. I will be afk for a bit as this downloads.
[00:39] <ObrienDave> cynicallemon, he did not ask about removing win8
[00:40] <kostkon> odsent, you are in the wron g channel
[00:40] <ne0> so i got another copy of the ISO with a different hash and it still doesn't work
[00:40] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: if we work on him enough he will :)
[00:40] <ObrienDave> cynicallemon, could not agree with you more ;D
[00:42] <juniorsa> Hi, we upgraded from 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts and now apt-get is broken - I get a bunch of errors saying "dpkg: error processing package python-secretstorage" for lots of packages any suggestions on how to fix ?
[00:43] <evil_dan2wik> Get windows
[00:43] <evil_dan2wik> apt-get install windows
[00:45] <kostkon> juniorsa, paste the full output
[00:45] <kostkon> !paste
[00:47] <juniorsa> http://pastebin.com/NpupZSMs
[00:49] <ObrienDave> juniorsa, you did not run it with sudo
[00:49] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install -f
[00:49] <juniorsa> I'm logged in as root
[00:50] <ObrienDave> ok fine ;P
[00:50] <juniorsa> :)
[00:52] <Makowa> Hey guys, how i do subscript a number ?
[00:52] <Makowa> For example, if i want to superscript, i press ^ and then number and it goes like this 4²
[00:53] <ObrienDave> ^3
[00:53] <juniorsa_> I lost my connection - sorry I missed any responses :(
[00:53] <ObrienDave> there were none
[00:53] <juniorsa_> :(
[00:54] <Makowa> ³
[00:56] <royalaxe> im about 400 grit
[00:58] <ObrienDave> i have some 8000 grit somewheres
[01:07] <royalaxe> on your bum, as smooth as 8000 grit
[01:08] <royalaxe> can anyone reccomend a great ubuntu game?
[01:09] <ObrienDave> tux racer ;P
[01:09] <OerHeks> 10 free games @ steam
[01:09] <royalaxe> yeh, ill check there
[01:10] <cynicallemon> royalaxe: what about upgrading ubuntu releases, can be a game at times...
[01:11] <royalaxe> cynicallemon: mmm the last time i upgraded paint shop pro wouldnt work anymore
[01:17] <ONI_Ghost> Hello I have a question and was wondering if someone could help me. I am running ubuntu in a virtual machine on windows. Im trying to get the internet to work on it. I have shared my wireless connection and set it in the options as legacy network adaptor
[01:18] <ONI_Ghost> in Ubuntu it showed some new connections but just keeps blinking and saying im not connected to the internet
[01:18] <ONI_Ghost> I thinking I might have some settings wrong in ubuntu but I guess it could be that it isnt sharing my wireless connection right
[01:18] <ONI_Ghost> im*
[01:20] <cynicallemon> ONI_Ghost: it will only show as a normal network connection in ubuntu and not as a wireless connection
[01:22] <ONI_Ghost> ah ok, so if I correctly shared it then it should work?
[01:23] <Beldar> ONI_Ghost, What virtual app?
[01:23] <ONI_Ghost> Hyper v
[01:23] <cynicallemon> ONI_Ghost: ah, thought you were running virtualbox
[01:23] <Beldar> ONI_Ghost, That is a windows virtual you might ask in ##windows
[01:24] <ONI_Ghost> ah i see
[01:24] <cynicallemon> hyper v is the pits
[01:24] <ONI_Ghost> i found a pretty good guide on how to share it online but maybe it was wrong..
[01:24]  * cynicallemon suggest virtualbox
[01:24] <ONI_Ghost> ah hum
[01:24] <ONI_Ghost> lol
[01:25] <Beldar> ONI_Ghost, They claim it's the bees knees, probably is in windows.
[01:25] <ONI_Ghost> I see
[01:27] <ObrienDave> ONI_Ghost, VirtualBox is available for windows
[01:28] <Beldar> ONI_Ghost, http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn531029.aspx
[01:28] <ONI_Ghost> ah ok yah I saw it on the list of best Virtual machines but I figured I would just try the one in windows as it was already installed
[01:29] <_jeremy_> :
[01:29] <Beldar> ONI_Ghost, Check the hyper -v MS link notes.
[01:32] <necro606> hi I am trying to decript a bitlocker hard drive to get some information off of it. does anyone know a good program for this?
[01:33] <ObrienDave> necro606, glwt
[01:34] <necro606> glwt?
[01:34] <ObrienDave> Good Luck With That
[01:34] <Beldar> necro606, ##windows
[01:34] <necro606> ah well so far none has come around i have been looking all day
[01:35] <necro606> Beldar, I don't have a windows machine
[01:35] <SchrodingersScat> gparted could format it into something more useful.
[01:35] <OerHeks> bitlocker, no go on linux
[01:36] <ObrienDave> necro606, how did you get a bitlocked drive?
[01:36] <ONI_Ghost> it says make sure network manager is turned off. ALso i read that network manager comes with ubuntu. does that refer to just the network option in settings?
[01:36] <ONI_Ghost> sorry im new to ubuntu
[01:36] <Patricky_Web> Y would we want bitlocker here on linux lol
[01:36] <Patricky_Web> Y do you need the network manager off?
[01:37] <ObrienDave> is Y a word or something?
[01:37] <Patricky_Web> short for why
[01:37] <ObrienDave> naw, really? you're kidding, right???
[01:37] <ONI_Ghost> lol
[01:38] <ONI_Ghost> To ensure smooth functioning of static IP injection please ensure that Network Manager is turned off completely or has been turned off for a specific network adapter through its ifcfg-ethX file."
[01:38] <Patricky_Web> lol i don't type so well so i cut out what i can
[01:38] <necro606> well i used to have a windows machine to play games on but I don't have it around and all my backup info is on a usb drive that i used bitlocker on.
[01:38] <Patricky_Web> aww hacking WEP ONI?
[01:39] <necro606> lol
[01:39] <SchrodingersScat> maybe a windows vm with usb passthrough is worth a try
[01:39] <ONI_Ghost> lol no
[01:39] <ObrienDave> necro606, your only bet is to get to a windows machine and decrypt it there
[01:40] <Patricky_Web> hmm
[01:40] <necro606> hm, ok i will get a hold of a few peeps to see if i can't use their win machine to take the bitlocker off the drive
[01:41] <ObrienDave> the suggestion by SchrodingersScat might work
[01:41] <dramon> do i have to allow skype to use the webcam in ubuntu?
[01:41] <ObrienDave> dramon, no
[01:41] <coeurdepik> yo
[01:42] <Malaika> Hello
[01:42] <ONI_Ghost> hum
[01:43] <dramon> ObrienDave, i have skype recognizing my webcam en in tool test but in the windows chat dont have the option to use it
[01:43] <ObrienDave> dramon, normal chat does not, you need to start a video call/chat
[01:43] <Malaika> Hmmm... I have an issue with my notebook keyboard... anyone??? please?
[01:44] <dramon> ObrienDave, i dont have the option
[01:44] <ObrienDave> it's separate from normal chat, iirc
[01:44]  * ObrienDave has not used skype in years
[01:45] <necro606> well thanks for the advice and I will be in soon for more questions. "I am a bit rusty with linux but plan on using only linux from now on."
[01:45] <Beldar> Malaika, Do we guess or you gonna tell us the issue?
[01:45] <ObrienDave> necro606, always welcome
[01:45] <dramon> me either but i found a friend who likes to show boobies once i a while lol
[01:45] <necro606> :)
[01:45] <ObrienDave> dramon, now THERE'S a friend ;P
[01:46] <Malaika> Beldar, lol. Sorry. Everytime I type the letter p it opens a window in Firefox
[01:47] <ObrienDave> Malaika, somehow you probably have that set as a hot key
[01:47] <Malaika> Beldar, the keyboard is acting weird... backspace isn't working properly either... I can't delete under repetition with backspace
[01:48] <Malaika> ObrienDave I don't think so
[01:48] <Beldar> Malaika, Do you have a second keyboard to test?
[01:48] <Malaika> FN keys aren't working properly also...
[01:49] <Malaika> No, Beldar
[01:50] <Malaika> It was working fine until I installed the latest version of Ubuntu
[01:51] <ObrienDave> could be a keyboard configuration issue
[01:51] <Malaika> ObrienDave How can I check that?
[01:52] <ObrienDave> well, i run Xubuntu, so in mine, under settings, keyboard, layout, i can select different keyboards
[01:54] <Malaika> ObrienDave I'm in Brazil, so I have Portuguse and English installed... it shouldn't be the issue
[01:54] <ObrienDave> ok
[01:56] <Malaika> :{
[01:57] <ObrienDave> Beldar, all yours ;P
[01:57] <Malaika> Hehehe
[01:57] <Beldar> no idea here same path to this point here.
[01:59] <Malaika> Ubuntu Trusty messed up with my kb
[02:02] <Malaika> Well, I guess I'll have to go look for help somewhere else :{
[02:03] <Malaika> Thanks anyway
[02:03] <Malaika> o/
[02:08] <usuario_> t0rete
[02:14] <pete__> I'm having a problem on xubuntu with random crashes, I think possibly due to my laptop trackpad
[02:14] <pete__> can somebody help me figure out what the problem is so i can submit a proper bug report
[02:18] <sergio> list channel
[02:19] <sershei> list
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !alis | sershei
[02:20] <sershei> hi hola oi?
[02:22] <sershei> LIST min 10
[02:22] <sershei> LIST min 10 users in channel
[02:23] <sershei> LIST min 10
[02:23] <sershei> LIST min 100
[02:24] <sershei> LIST min 1000
[02:24] <sershei> LIST max 10
[02:26] <petester> sershei put a forward slash in front of the command
[02:27] <sershei> petester i can't understand. Can u help me?
[02:29] <evad4b> hello guys.
[02:30] <rabelais> trusty desktop login screen: it only has users that have previously logged in. How do enter a different username in the login screen?
[02:34] <petester> Hello!  I suspect my trackpad is crashing my system, I'm curious what logs I can look at to confirm my suspicians
[02:35] <petester> suspicions
[02:35] <petester> i dont spell much
[02:35] <trism> rabelais: there is an option you can add to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf , greeter-show-manual-login=true to allow you to enter any name in unity-greeter
[02:35] <trism> rabelais: but it should be showing any user on your system with uid >= 1000
[02:36] <yoelis> hola por aca
[02:37] <cappicard> heya. i'm running 14.04LTS.  When lightdm loads up, I lose my keyboard and mouse...
[02:38] <cappicard> i've uninstalled my nvidia drivers... but to no avail
[02:49] <Bashing-om> cappicard: Might try changing USB devices settings in your bios and make sure "plug and play" is enabled .
[02:58] <Pixel91> Hello everyone, can you please point me to the right channel to get help for using a Galaxy S4 as a microphone for Ubuntu 14.04 via 3.5mm jack or USB?
[03:01] <Xiggz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/516974/how-do-i-make-ubuntu-14-04-recognize-my-galaxy-s4-as-a-microphone-via-3-5mm-jack
[03:09] <cappicard> uh, this is a 2012 bios. pnp is implied.
[03:09] <ObrienDave> cappicard, NOTHING is implied lol
[03:10] <cappicard> i have legacy usb enabled. both windows and osx mavericks work just fine with my keyboard and mouse
[03:11] <cappicard> my keyboard and mouse work fine in text mode. Its only when lightdm starts up i lose them
[03:12] <Bashing-om> cappicard: Maybe the kernel does not like what bios passes to it "legacy", try changing that setting.
[03:12] <cappicard> if i turn off legacy,  i cant use my keyboard at my grub screen
[03:13] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, wouldn't that put into UEFI mode?
[03:13] <ObrienDave> *put it into
[03:13] <cappicard> this is not a uefi bios
[03:13] <ObrienDave> k
[03:13] <cappicard> er-uefi motherboard
[03:13] <ObrienDave> gotcha
[03:14] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Perhaps, Lots I do not know and I have no experience with UEFI .. I just say try it, as no driver appears to be available once the kernel loads.
[03:17] <YokoBR> guys, from a month or two ago until now i'm having some strange issues. When i play 3d games, my laptop overheats and the game gets so slow
[03:17] <YokoBR> when i close the game, the whole system is slow
[03:18] <YokoBR> and now the fglrx drive isn't working, only fglrx updates
[03:21] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i have no UEFI experience either, my wife will NOT let me mess with her Win8 machine. ROFL
[03:22] <rodney77> hi, I"m running 14.04. It used to be that when I connected to another computer over ssh, the filesystem mounted at ~.gvfs
[03:22] <rodney77> is this not the case anymore? Where does it mount now?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Opposite, I will NOT touch my wife's Win8 graphics station ( reason: Adobe Flash support) .
[03:24] <Beldar> the oddest people pair up. ;)
[03:24] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, yea, but guess who she calls when something does not work right LOL
[03:24] <OerHeks> Satya Nadella?
[03:25] <ObrienDave> ;P
[03:26] <petester> ok, I'm not able to get it to work right now.  Probably because it's late and i've been drinking
[03:27] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: She has tried that a couple of times . I will put ubuntu on it ! Nope, she buckels down and finds a solution. For what she does, 'buntu was fine 'til we lost Adobe flash, even Google Chrome would not satisfy.
[03:37] <rhcp> sup guys
[03:37] <rhcp> and gals
[03:37] <rhcp> im on 12.02 LTS
[03:37] <rhcp> and trying to go 14.04 LTS
[03:37] <rhcp> via
[03:37] <rhcp> sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:37] <rhcp> keeps failing
[03:42] <Bashing-om> rhcp: I could be in error, but I think you want to do that release upgrade from 12.04.5 (??).
[03:42] <rhcp> let me see to be exact
[03:42] <rhcp> sorry it just crashed. bad PSU
[03:42] <rhcp> i had like 900 days uptime
[03:42] <rhcp> so im trying to do what i can :)
[03:42] <rhcp> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu precise (12.04.5 LTS)"
[03:42] <rhcp> VERSION_ID="12.04"
[03:42] <rhcp> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS"
[03:43] <Bashing-om> rhcp: OK, how bout proprietary drivers ? and other 3rd party software ?
[03:43] <rhcp> their may be some 3rd party stuff yes
[03:44] <rhcp> prob for older java
[03:44] <rhcp> cant think of anything else tbh
[03:45] <Bashing-om> rhcp: Is suggested that they be reverted (PPA's) - ppa-purge - and may have to disable the sources, particularly so if the 3rd party stuff is not supported in 14.04 release.
[03:45] <rhcp> root@home:/home/rhcp# cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ppa
[03:45] <rhcp> root@home:/home/rhcp#
[03:46] <rhcp> might it be someplace else?
[03:46] <rhcp> but i can do ppa-purge
[03:46] <rhcp> if you think it will fix my issue
[03:47] <Bashing-om> rhcp: -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- to look at the 3rd party directory.
[03:47] <rhcp> k
[03:48] <rhcp> Bashing-om https://pastecry.pt/18lwUw#Ud2Uc2Yp2Yf8Ryg2En5Fau4Cex
[03:48] <Bashing-om> rhcp: look'n .
[03:48] <rhcp> thx
[03:48] <rhcp> i appricate it
[03:48] <rhcp> been a LONG day
[03:50] <Backus> So I recently dual booted my macbook with ubuntu and I use another monitor as well, and for some reason I think my system thinks that my laptop monitor is the larger monitor
[03:50] <Backus> and its causing some weird visual glitches
[03:50] <drewjo> !monitor > Backus
[03:51] <Backus> Here's a screenshot, and the macbook screen is on the left: http://i.imgur.com/LWvXfpB.jpg
[03:51] <drewjo> !display > Backus
[03:51] <Backus> yeah?
[03:52] <ObrienDave> Backus, love the background, where did you get it?
[03:52] <rhcp> thats a modded Yosmite backround
[03:52] <rhcp> afaik
[03:53] <rhcp> Bashing-om brb bro
[03:53] <rhcp> need to do something
[03:53] <Backus> Its actually one of the default ubuntu backgrounds
[03:54] <lalalalalalalani> nihaoma
[03:54] <ObrienDave> been to Yosemite enough to know it don't look like that ;P
[03:54] <lalalalalalalani> xvfsgfgd
[03:55] <lalalalalalalani> qunimade
[03:55] <drewjo> !ops lalalalalalalani
[03:55] <ObrienDave> lalalalalalalani, do you actually have an Ubuntu SUPPORT question?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> rhcp: Wow, that is a buch, for starters -> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates <-. I would then disanle all of the 3rd party sources here, and check: -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list <- for any others.
[03:56] <Bashing-om> bunch*
[04:02] <Backus> Ubottu's suggestion wasn't quite what I was looking for, is there any chance someone can help?
[04:02] <Backus> I get it ubottu
[04:05] <haywire> hey guys, since ver 13.10 or so have samba issues after 15-mins of no activity on the network when i access the share i get oops something went wrong... software has aborted... then if immediately retry share it works... ubuntu  is current and have tried multiple smb.cong files
[04:06] <rhcp> Bashing-om you mind a PM?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> rhcp: Naww .. go ahead. meet ya there.
[04:06] <rhcp> thanks
[04:08] <wafflejock_> anyone know about running the PCI-DSS tests with lynis
[04:09] <wafflejock_> !info lynis
[04:12] <wafflejock_> awesome love the #ubuntu trolls
[04:12] <evil_dan2wik> who is trolling?
[04:12] <mugenzebra> Hi all, how do I disable auto-reset on a serial connection? I tried stty -F /dev/ttyACM2 -hupcl, but no
[04:12] <wafflejock_> [beto]
[04:13] <evil_dan2wik> wafflejock_, I don't see anything
[04:13] <ObrienDave> PM troll
[04:13] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: yeah actually showed in the main chat for me
[04:13] <ForeverApprentic> Okay
[04:13] <wafflejock_> don't want to repeat it since it's nonsense
[04:14] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[04:14] <ForeverApprentic> So this install has been going for a while, how can I tel if it is done?
[04:14] <ObrienDave> you still on 13.10 install?
[04:14] <ForeverApprentic> I only inputted the command once
[04:15] <evil_dan2wik> ForeverApprentic, wait
[04:15] <hemangpatel> Hi. morning.
[04:15] <ObrienDave> ForeverApprentic, what evil_dan2wik said, do NOT interrupt it
[04:16] <hemangpatel> Today i'm going to install ubuntu 14.04 LTS in my laptop, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201204-10922/
[04:16] <hemangpatel> is it preferred ?
[04:17] <hemangpatel> removing all windows stuff , only ubuntu
[04:17] <wafflejock_> hemangpatel: yeah you should go with 14.04 for longer support, it should be good for 5 years out
[04:17] <wafflejock_> hemangpatel: if you have any data on the drive you might want to preserve/retrieve you may want to grab clonezilla first to backup to an external or network attached drive
[04:17] <cynicallemon> hemangpatel: yes removing windows is much preffered :)
[04:17] <evil_dan2wik> hemangpatel, try live boot, if that doesn't work, don't use it or ask here
[04:18] <hemangpatel> I backup all my data already. Will install through USB ( LiLi ).
[04:20] <hemangpatel> I have 32 gb mSata Drive. Is it useful anyway to fast bootup ?
[04:21] <wafflejock_> not sure I understand the question
[04:22] <hemangpatel> wafflejock_, I have mSata 32 Gb + 320 GB hdd. Can i install ubuntu in mSaTa drive to fast bootup. btw, msata used by intel SRT .
[04:23] <evil_dan2wik> drewjo, where do you live?
[04:23] <wafflejock_> yeah you probably want the /home mounted on the 320 GB drive and the swap there too
[04:23] <evil_dan2wik> You use exetel, I just want to know where.
[04:23] <drewjo> Sydney
[04:24] <evil_dan2wik> hmm
[04:24] <shubho> hemangpatel: yes mount the /home partition and /swap to your HDD (spinning disk)
[04:24] <drewjo> what's that got to do with anything?
[04:24] <evil_dan2wik> work well down there?
[04:24] <wafflejock_> hemangpatel: my current Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 with quite a bit of stuff installed (GIMP, Chrome, Shutter, Lynis, LAMP stack, Thunderbird) takes up 35GB
[04:24] <drewjo> I did my own wiring so I only get 8GBit
[04:24] <shubho> hemangpatel: mount every thing else on ssd
[04:24] <drewjo> 8Mebit
[04:24] <drewjo> I mean
[04:24] <evil_dan2wik> cool
[04:24] <shubho> hemangpatel: consider mounting /var to HDD too
[04:24] <evil_dan2wik> Well, thanks for that info
[04:25] <drewjo> I bought a socket and did the stripping and everything
[04:25] <drewjo> it's $40 a month for 100 Gigs
[04:26] <evil_dan2wik> cool
[04:27] <evil_dan2wik> I don't get any wire access here, only 2-3G internet access
[04:27] <drewjo> OH god
[04:27] <drewjo> 3G destroys your credit
[04:27] <evil_dan2wik> yeah
[04:27] <drewjo> you have to keep topping up
[04:27] <hemangpatel> shubho, Can you please write me recommended  partition schemes for this drives ?, http://pastie.org/private/fbcuhurgrdkjtl5ox2a  thanks
[04:27] <evil_dan2wik> no
[04:27] <evil_dan2wik> We are on a plan
[04:28] <hemangpatel> write in pastie.
[04:28] <evil_dan2wik> so it costs $0.5 per meg over
[04:28] <evil_dan2wik> but, 10GB for $35 2-3G
[04:31] <shubho> hemang: i am not sure about the ubuntu 14.04 installation scheme. But the philosophy is that /boot and programs should be installed on your mSATA for faster performance so except /var /home and /swap everything should be on your mSATA
[04:31] <wafflejock_> ^
[04:31] <wafflejock_> agree completely on all that
[04:31] <lalalalalalalani> ubuntua
[04:31] <shubho> hemangpatel: /var /home and /swap should be on your 320GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm disk
[04:32] <roger_> salut
[04:32] <hemangpatel> ok
[04:32] <wafflejock_> hemangpatel: depends on how much space you think you'll need in terms of the actual partition size for the parts mounted for /var and /home
[04:32] <wafflejock_> hemangpatel: your swap should just be as large as your RAM if you want to be able to hibernate
[04:32] <evil_dan2wik> wafflejock_, I can't hibernate
[04:32] <evil_dan2wik> My swap is 27GB
[04:33] <Yokobr> guys, i have an strange issue. I've noticed that even installing the ati proprietary driver, ony the onboard device is being used
[04:33] <shubho> hemangpatel: if you are using btrfs then its ok, else use ext2 on mSATA partitions
[04:33] <evil_dan2wik> I only have 4GB ram
[04:33] <Yokobr> or the open source driver
[04:33] <evil_dan2wik> Yokobr, laptop with dual graphics?
[04:33] <shubho> hemangpatel: you have to change the disk scheduler to 'noop'
[04:33] <Yokobr> evil_dan2wik: in crungbang that would be too much
[04:33] <hemangpatel> shubho, / and /boot will comes in msata right ? and how much size is better ?
[04:33] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: have you tried looking into the problem at all?
[04:34] <evil_dan2wik> wafflejock_, not really
[04:34] <shubho> hemangpatel: you will find a lot of pages for optimizing your SSD performance
[04:34] <Yokobr> evil_dan2wik: an i5 with onboard gpu and a discrete driver ati 7400m
[04:34] <botnut> anyone get a touchpad working with gestures in vmware player with a guest os running ubuntu 14.04?
[04:34] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: yeah that's the only thing I'm aware of that for sure prevents it but might be some other bugs
[04:34] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: personally I never hibernate the computer anyhow
[04:34] <wafflejock_> sometimes sleep mode but rarely even do that it's usually shut down or turned on
[04:34] <wafflejock_> SSD boot times are fast anyhow
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> wafflejock_, this laptop is staying on windows 8 because of 2 things, the crashing during hibernation and the problems with the AMD dual graphics only using the APU and not the discrete one.
[04:35] <wafflejock_> actually don't see a hibernate option in Gnome shutdown menu... oh well
[04:35] <evil_dan2wik> wafflejock_, it was removed from the later versions
[04:36] <evil_dan2wik> but there is a command to hibernate that I forget
[04:36] <Yokobr> http://pastebin.com/VcGUE6Dg
[04:36] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: ah yeah graphics chipsets can be promlematic, I've just got some Intel HD 4000 chipset that works pretty well (no driver problems at least, some issue with 3 monitors but don't know who to blame for that)
[04:36] <hemangpatel> shubho wafflejock_ : thank you.
[04:36] <Yokobr> as u guys can see, it's using radeon driver (opensource) but i have installed fglrx
[04:38] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: yeah just gotta get an SSD then the boots are like 20 seconds total, not so bad to just shutdown then, sleep mode if I need to keep what I have open already but seems you can still drain out the battery if you forget to wake it and shut down at some point over the course of a day or so
[04:38] <Ben64> Yokobr: have you tried any of this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[04:38] <wafflejock_> and SSD is so damn fast, and getting reasonable for price now
[04:38] <Yokobr> do i have to remove the open source driver to install the proprietary one?
[04:38] <lalalalalalalani> hello
[04:39] <drewjo> lalalalalalalani, I know you are swearing in chinese
[04:39] <drewjo> lalalalalalalani, please stop
[04:40] <lalalalalalalani> i am sorry
[04:40] <evil_dan2wik> wafflejock_, I am thinking of replacing my CD drive bay with an SSD.
[04:40] <evil_dan2wik> that way I can boot off my SSD and still have a 1TB hard drive
[04:40] <wafflejock_> evil_dan2wik: yeah I'm thinking of replacing mine with an HDD :) right now just keep it conservative and use a NAS for media stuff
[04:40] <ForeverApprentic> The terminal which was upgrading to 13.10 is still at the same line...
[04:40] <Yokobr> Ben64: i don't think that's the problem
[04:40] <cynicallemon> evil_dan2wik: but you cd's wont fit into the ssd...
[04:41] <evil_dan2wik> cynicallemon, that is what my USB cd drive caddy is for.
[04:41] <Ben64> Yokobr: ok then, good luck
[04:45] <lalalalalalalani> sorry, i am leaving
[04:45] <SaF_> y??
[04:45] <SaF_> lalalalalalalani
[04:45] <cynicallemon> dont be sorry
[04:53] <wafflejock_> ForeverApprentic: what does it say?
[04:53] <HikaruBG> yo guys
[04:53] <wafflejock_> hello
[04:53] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[04:54] <HikaruBG> thansk
[04:54] <HikaruBG> Thanks! :)
[04:55] <HikaruBG> any one have an IDEA why the CTRL+ALT+F1 won't bring me to tty1 ?
[04:55] <HikaruBG> it shows blach screen, that's it
[04:55] <HikaruBG> black
[04:55] <wafflejock_> HikaruBG: maybe going to a resolution the monitor doesn't support?
[04:55] <wafflejock_> does it appear the monitor goes to idle or anything?
[04:56] <ObrienDave> ctrl alt f1 works for me
[04:56] <wafflejock_> HikaruBG: blinking cursor or anything on display at all?
[04:57] <HikaruBG> wafflejock_, nothing - just blanc and black ...
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> im looking for handy system cleaners like bleachbit, any sugestions?
[04:57] <HikaruBG> wafflejock_, how could it go in the resolution the screen won't support - i am running Ubuntu on my Laptop
[04:58] <ForeverApprentic> I think I am going to just
[04:58] <ForeverApprentic> Wipe this drive, and reinstall ubuntu onto it, but with 14.04 this time
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> ForeverApprentic: good idea!
[04:59] <ForeverApprentic> yeah
[04:59] <ForeverApprentic> so uh, might be back
[04:59] <ForeverApprentic> Thank you all
[04:59] <cynicallemon> ForeverApprentic: good call
[05:00] <wafflejock_> HikaruBG:  possible solutions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850667&page=2
[05:00] <HikaruBG> Thank you wafflejock_
[05:00] <wafflejock_> HikaruBG: these are old posts but perhaps related plymouth-manager problem
[05:00] <HikaruBG> i got it - thanks again :)
[05:05] <YokoBR> guys, how do i check which one is my active gpu? i have 2
[05:06] <dm_> YokoBR: what do you mean by active
[05:06] <dm_> do you have displays connected to both?
[05:06] <YokoBR> well, i have 2 gpu... I need to know if ubuntu is using the onboard intel or the ati gpu
[05:08] <Guest84496> Hey does anybody know if a structural engineer can handle the construction of an offshore drilling rig installations such as oil rigs or  natural gas rigs. And why do they build them when they have ships that can just go over there and extract it out... why have the stationary rigs to the mobile ships... would this be because the mount of time in extracting the resources or having a means to extract more at anytime
[05:08] <evil_dan2wik> YokoBR, play a game?
[05:08] <YokoBR> evil_dan2wik: both would run it
[05:08] <evil_dan2wik> ok.
[05:08] <Guest84496> basically when does on chose oil rig over oil ship for extraction
[05:08] <Guest84496> and why
[05:09] <YokoBR> googlin' i've found this command
[05:09] <dm_> maybe using lspci
[05:09] <dm_> try this command "lspci | grep VGA
[05:09] <YokoBR> lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[05:10] <YokoBR> dm_: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[05:10] <YokoBR> but i can't tell which one is the current, the active one
[05:10] <evil_dan2wik> YokoBR, that means that bother are recognised
[05:10] <evil_dan2wik> both*
[05:10] <YokoBR> evil_dan2wik: but only one could be used at time
[05:12] <evil_dan2wik> YokoBR, I know
[05:12] <evil_dan2wik> Although, my laptop uses both on windows
[05:12] <Bashing-om> rhc
[05:12] <Adam_ActiveState> I'm looking to resize a partition to change my laptop so it can dual boot into elementary os and ubuntu
[05:13] <Adam_ActiveState> on ubuntu I have a couple of desktop env
[05:13] <nearst> if u install fglrx, then fgl_glxgears
[05:13] <Adam_ActiveState> is this worthwhile, or does elementary os possible with just another desktop?
[05:13] <evil_dan2wik> YokoBR, ran "lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA" ?
[05:15] <YokoBR> evil_dan2wik: on the forum where i've found this command some guy said i should know which one is the active one by  [VGA controller] flag. But both have this flag
[05:15] <evil_dan2wik> well then they are both active.
[05:15] <dm_> YokoBR: do you have the ATI drivers installed
[05:15] <YokoBR> yep, dm_
[05:23] <dm_> YokoBR:  most likely using the AMD card, graphics switching not very well supported in ubuntu
[05:23] <YokoBR> mmmm
[05:23] <YokoBR> strange.
[05:24] <OerHeks> sudo amdconfig --px-igpu #To switch to the Intel card. Should instruct you to reboot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450&p=13072363#post13072363 topic full about ati hybrid issues
[05:25] <dm_> there ya go.. good one OerHeks
[05:31] <OerHeks> still curious, as that topic starts with install ia32-libs   ..
[05:38] <kappa> Gah! Just left my desktop for a few minutes and the screen locked. Came back and the password box has disappeared.. Tried to type it in blind but it doesn't seem to work. Anyone know how to unlock another sesssion from commandline?
[05:40] <sleepy-owl> installer link on official steam site doesn't work for me, anyone else getting this ? http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/archive/precise/steam_latest.deb
[05:41] <dm_> kappa: you can try to login thru vt1 and then kill your gui and restart it
[05:41] <jprs> sleepy-owl: looks down.  You can still list the directory though http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/archive/precise/
[05:41] <kappa> sleepy-owl: try http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
[05:41] <cfhowlett> sleepy-owl, it's in the ubuntu repos.   install from there
[05:41] <kappa> dm_: thanks, will give it a go now
[05:41] <sleepy-owl> kappa, that link does not work either
[05:42] <kappa> ah so it doesn't, sorry. maybe it's dead?
[05:42] <dm_> are you running multiple monitors by any chance
[05:42] <dm_> and 14.04
[05:43] <prem> hi all
[05:43] <kappa> yep
[05:43] <kappa> 3x
[05:43] <dm_> heh..
[05:43] <prem> how to get lzo command in ubuntu
[05:43] <kappa> uh oh
[05:43] <dm_> i had a similair issue,
[05:43] <sleepy-owl> jprs, yup listing is valid, links do not work though, can't download the latest or any of them for that matter, atm.
[05:43] <dm_> no fix as of yet, but really only happened once
[05:43] <prem> in my terminal am not getting that command..which package to install?
[05:44] <kappa> ah i see
[05:44] <sleepy-owl> cfhowlett, the one in ubuntu repos is kinda outdated, should i go for it nonetheless ?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> prem  open a terminal: apt-cache terminal
[05:44] <cfhowlett> sleepy-owl, of course.  once installed, it'll update directly from steam
[05:44] <OerHeks> !find lzo
[05:45] <prem> but none of these packages gives me "lzo" command in terminal
[05:45] <sleepy-owl> cfhowlett, superb, thank you
[05:46] <cfhowlett> prem, try man lzo         will describe the linux lzo command
[05:46] <OerHeks> prem sudo apt-get install lzop
[05:47] <kappa_> oops xkilled firefox
[05:48] <OerHeks> any help with bug 1 ?
[05:48] <sleepy-owl> awesome, steam updater is rolling already
[05:49] <cfhowlett> sleepy-owl, "Now don't you feel better?  Don't we all feel better?"
[05:49] <sleepy-owl> cfhowlett, that IS for sure =)
[05:50] <sleepy-owl> and only if i can make steam kill the leftover SteamChildMonit process that some games leave on quit ...
[05:50] <atarixle> Good Morning ...
[05:50] <eng500> Hi all, I have an external ext4 formatted hdd and I always want to mount it with noatime (regardless of which machine I mount it on). I have used tune2fs -E mount_opts=noatime, but when mounting I get 'EXT4fs (sdb1): Unrecognized mount option "noatime" or missing value', and atime gets updated. Can I somehow set the default mount option for my external hdd to noatime (without putting it in fstab on every
[05:50] <eng500> machine)?
[05:51] <sleepy-owl> atarixle, to you too
[05:51] <atarixle> ty sleepy-owl ... /me just testdriving the Ubuntu-MATE Desktop
[05:52] <kappa_> and it';s back! thanks very much dm_!
[05:52] <kappa_> dm_: you have a BTC wallet?
[05:52] <dm_> heh no i dont, but thanks anyways
[05:53] <kappa_> alright then :P thanks very much mate!
[05:53] <kappa_> you've saved me hours of work
[05:53] <kappa_> enjoy your day. :)
[05:53] <dm_> no problem. glad to help
[05:55] <sleepy-owl> is there a way to backup the packages already downloaded and installed by apt-get so they can be used after a fresh install ?
[05:56] <sleepy-owl> without downloading again i mean
[05:56] <mugenzebra> hi all, are there better evernote client app than everpad?
[05:56] <atarixle> sleepy-owl, I did this once with an older Ubuntu Desktop ... I think it's Remastersys which creates a CD-ROM / DVD-ROM containing the currently installed packages
[05:57] <dm_> night all. thats enough for me today
[05:57] <sleepy-owl> atarixle, thank you, i will check it in a bit
[05:58] <atarixle> even self-built packages and e.g. user themes in /usr/share have been stored if I remember right
[06:01] <sleepy-owl> if i can find where the downloaded/guilt packages reside then it's only a matter of copy&paste i guess
[06:02] <sleepy-owl> erm built*
[06:07] <gxw> 12346
[06:08] <gxw> ubuntu
[06:19] <hoege> Hi. "Privacy" appears twice in my dash. Why and what can I do?
[06:21] <KaiserJosef1918> Euskara?
[06:25] <KaiserJosef1918> Ubuntu Euskaraz?
[06:26] <ObrienDave> KaiserJosef1918, what language do you speak?
[06:26] <KaiserJosef1918> Basque
[06:26] <KaiserJosef1918> Je parle Basqye
[06:26] <KaiserJosef1918> Basque please.
[06:27] <Blue1> !french | KaiserJosef1918
[06:28] <KaiserJosef1918> Blue1: Basque Ubuntu channel?
[06:36] <bagonzo> list
[06:38] <helmut_> hi
[06:40] <ObrienDave> helmut_, greetings and welcome
[06:40] <Turd_FartTart> Someone speaks
[06:56] <alipoor90> Hi
[06:56] <neurosis> yo
[06:57] <nydel> hellos
[06:58] <alipoor90> when i re size windows or move them fast Xorg and gnome-shell processes each will use about 20% CPU time , my graphic card is ATI m4000 firepro and cpu is core i7 , do this is normal?
[07:03] <nydel> alipoor90: you're using gnome desktop?
[07:05] <nydel> if it //is// normal, i wouldn't recommending accepting whatever is handling your window managing &or window decoration/effects
[07:05] <neurosis> the ubuntu desktop is gnome right on a defalt install
[07:05] <nydel> i believe ubuntu's "unity" is default
[07:05] <ObrienDave> neurosis, no, it's called Unity
[07:06] <nydel> ObrienDave: which window manager do you use?
[07:06] <neurosis> it's not an offshoot of gnome
[07:06] <neurosis> ?\
[07:06] <alipoor901> how can i make sure it is not on software rendering?
[07:07] <nydel> neurosis: afaik gnome had nothing to do with unity in terms of a fork-like situation etc
[07:08] <nydel> neurosis: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/gnome-3-vs-unity-which-is-right-for-you might be helpful
[07:08] <neurosis> cool
[07:08] <neurosis> thx
[07:08] <ObrienDave> nydel, i use Xubuntu, it uses XFCE and XFWM4
[07:09] <nydel> ObrienDave: i really like xfce. very much. however i had some issues i haven't resolved yet with keeping dual screen if i close my laptop lid
[07:10] <nydel> ObrienDave: it was weird and i couldn't troubleshoot it. i went so far as to write a script calling xrandr on opening the laptop lid (to bring back dual screen) but... what a clunky solution!
[07:10] <nydel> ever had any problems like that, do you use multiple monitors?
[07:12] <alexamae> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[07:12] <alexamae> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[07:12] <nydel> alipoor901: what exactly are you trying to rule out?
[07:12] <alexamae> help me
[07:12] <ObrienDave> no, i dont. i dont like how xrandr defaults to Icons on left monitor
[07:12] <neurosis> nice read thanks mydel
[07:12] <alipoor901> i think gnome is running on software rendering
[07:13] <nydel> alipoor901: oh; ignoring your graphics hardware you mean
[07:13] <alipoor901> window moving/re sizing is slow
[07:13] <alipoor901> and use high percentage of cpu time
[07:13] <alipoor901> (Xorg and gnome-shell process)
[07:13] <nydel> neurosis: you're welcome friend. and may i suggest giving kde/plasma a try, i find it a wonderful alternative to unity.
[07:14] <nydel> alipoor901: i wonder if you are using gdm or lightdm?
[07:15] <alipoor901> tried both!
[07:15] <alipoor901> no diffrence
[07:16] <alipoor901> i see same thing even on live cd ...
[07:16] <alipoor901> installed fglrx but no effect ...
[07:16] <neurosis> not a big fan of kde i ran slackware for years and KDE is the default install
[07:17] <nydel> alipoor901: well sheesh you've been down that road then ha
[07:18] <nydel> alipoor901: have you been able to try either updating or rolling back your ATI drivers?
[07:18] <mystogan> alipoor901,whats the problem?
[07:19] <alipoor901> no , but i tried last beta version and last stable version recommanded by amd for my card ...
[07:19] <justlooks> hi, how can i update vim in ubuntu?
[07:20] <alipoor901> mystogan: gnome-shell process and xorg process consuming high percentage of cpu time when moving or re sizing windows and move/ re size is slow too ...
[07:20] <nydel> justlooks: at terminal, $ sudo apt-get update && apt-get install vim
[07:21] <nydel> mystogan: note alipoor901 is using ATI m4000 firepro graphics hardware
[07:21] <justlooks> nydel: it will not upgrade the whole system ,right?
[07:21] <nydel> justlooks: are you trying to avoid a distribution upgrade?
[07:22] <justlooks> nydel: yes ,
[07:23] <nigel_yao> anybody here?
[07:23] <hateball> !ask
[07:23] <nydel> justlooks: the "update" will only download the possible updates as a list. just do not run "apt-get install" with no arguments
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[07:23] <cfhowlett> !ask | nigel_yao,
[07:24] <nydel> justlooks: and when you do the vim update, read what's happening; make sure no kernels are being replaced etc -- you'd be asked to press Yes to allow it etc
[07:24] <ObrienDave> hey cfhowlett ;P
[07:24] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, kissing up that blarney stone again, are ye?
[07:25] <ObrienDave> LOL that was supposed to be our little secret ;P
[07:25] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, do you run xubuntu 14.04?
[07:26] <ObrienDave> yup
[07:26] <ObrienDave> 14.04.1 ;P
[07:26] <nydel> alipoor901: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface enable-animations false
[07:26] <_4ls> I want run CDE in Ubuntu
[07:26] <nydel> alienspy: i wonder if you do that then check for a change? at least you'll know what part of gnome it is.
[07:26] <_4ls> :D
[07:28] <nydel> 14 has been so nice to me thus far. i always have such anxiety about dist-upgrades but this one was so painless and worthwhile
[07:28] <ObrienDave> nydel, we're happy you think so :)
[07:30] <nydel> :)
[07:34] <nydel> question.. my bootscreen writes "Xubuntu" because i somehow confused ubuntu while messing with *-desktop packages. i'd like to get it back to Kubuntu, is this a heard-of issue?
[07:34] <alexamae> my wifi can't activate please help , im using ubuntu 12.04
[07:35] <ObrienDave> alexamae, post output of "uname -a" please
[07:36] <alexamae> ObrienDave, What do yu mean?
[07:37] <alexamae> ObrienDave, Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[07:37] <alexamae> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[07:37] <ObrienDave> alexamae, in terminal type,     uname -a       , please post output here
[07:38] <alexamae> ObrienDave, Linux alexamae-Inspiron-1545 3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 14 16:19:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:38] <radnarok> hi
[07:38] <ObrienDave> alexamae, how long has wi-fi not worked?
[07:39] <alexamae> ObrienDave, after i install the ubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <alexamae> ObrienDave, when i press the activate in additional driver message error appear
[07:40] <cfhowlett> alexamae, 12.04 doesn't support wifi on this computer out of the box.  14.04 does.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> alexamae, I've the same laptop.
[07:41] <ObrienDave> alexamae, why did you install 12.04?
[07:41] <alexamae> cfhowlett, oh.. ok i just upgrade to 14.04
[07:41] <cfhowlett> alexamae, that'll do.
[07:43] <alexamae> ObrienDave, because i though they still support the driver update hehehehe..
[07:43] <Gatis> Hi
[07:43] <Gatis> Im trying to disable compiz effects
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !info hexchat
[07:43] <alexamae> cfhowlett, ObrienDave , thanks guys i just upgrade to 14.04
[07:43] <ObrienDave> alexamae, best of luck to you
[07:44] <Gatis> Is Compiz component manager for Ubunut?
[07:44] <alexamae> ObrienDave, :)
[07:45] <Gatis> Does Ubuntu have Compiz Fusion or Compiz?
[07:45] <kaushal_> Gatis,use CompizConfig Settings Manager
[07:46] <Gatis> Command not found
[07:47] <kaushal_> Gatis,  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:47] <Gatis> Thank you
[07:48] <JediMaster> hi all, why is ufw logging that it's blocked packets from an IP that is allowed (on all ports), and even after inserting it into position 1 to allow that port on that particular host?
[07:48] <mystogan> Gatis,Start the application and go to Category > Effects from the left panel
[07:48] <Gatis> mystogan, was this packages supposed to be installed by default?
[07:48] <Gatis> I will, thanks.
[07:48] <mystogan> gatis,i dont think so...
[07:49] <nydel> Gatis: if you are on 14 you'll want the package "compiz-plugins" instead
[07:49] <Gatis> I have compiz-plugins.. Checked with dpkg -l
[07:49] <JediMaster> UFW behaving badly: http://pastebin.com/BmhWuZRp
[07:50] <Gatis> ii  compiz-plugins-default
[07:51] <JediMaster> ufw status shows: Anywhere                   ALLOW       10.0.10.12 6379, and syslog shows: [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=0e:0c:a7:6c:b8:30:7a:81:9e:38:5c:06:08:00 SRC=10.0.10.12 DST=10.0.10.2 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=41643 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=48510 DPT=6379 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0
[07:51] <Bez> I am trying to install ubuntu but without success, this is the steps i made. 1. download the iso file (ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64), done. 2. checking md5sum, done. 3. making a usb drive flash using "LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.30", done. 4. booting the machine from the usb, done. following the instructions on the screen (choosing install inside win7), done. 5. when the installation process
[07:51] <Bez> rebooting the system, instead of the installation to proceed, the machine is reboot from win7. when i leave the usb flash drive plugged in the computer the entire process starts from the beginning.
[07:51] <Bez> pls some advice.
[07:52] <alexamae> ObrienDave, my wifi is activated now after the updates
[07:53] <mystogan> Bez, i think  u should change legacy settings
[07:53] <nydel> welcome to 14, alexamae :)
[07:53] <Bez> legacy?
[07:53] <Bez> in the bios?
[07:53] <Gatis> nydel, what can i do with compiz-plugins?
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Bez, same as yesterday..REMOVE THE USB and boot again.
[07:53] <ObrienDave> alexamae, YAY! \o/
[07:53] <alexamae> nydel, thanks guys :0
[07:54] <Bez> cfhowlett, i did it... and nothing
[07:54] <mystogan> Bez,didnt you get the grub?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> Bez, "nothing " = ....  what exactly?
[07:54] <Bez> win7 pops up
[07:54] <nydel> Gatis: it's necessary for window effects in Unity. at ubuntu start try "compiz" and see if a settings manager application exists
[07:55] <cfhowlett> Bez, "install inside win7"   INSIDE win7?  that means windows installer/wubi.  NOT SUPPORTED in 14.04
[07:55] <Gatis> nydel, ok i have compiz-plugins by default.. Is there a way simply disable effects?
[07:55] <nydel> i think it's hotkeyed to something like ctrl-alt-f11 but let me look it up
[07:56] <Bez> cfhowlett, this an option that the ubuntu offers me in the installation.
[07:56] <mystogan> For Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[07:56] <mystogan> To turn on/off Unity/Compiz window animations and visual effects in Ubuntu -
[07:56] <mystogan>     Go to System Settings from the Ubuntu dash
[07:56] <mystogan>     Gatis,goto system settings Under 'Personal', click on the 'MyUnity' icon
[07:56] <mystogan>     In the 'MyUnity' window, go to 'desktop' tab and set the 'Windows animations' property accordingly.
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Bez, if you installed inside windows 7, it will not work.
[07:57] <Bez> so i have to replace the SO i dont have the option of dual boot?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> Bez, didn't say that.  do a proper dual boot NEXT to windows 7
[07:58] <nydel> bez check your windows7 machine for c:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk -- if that exists, you did a wubi install. you can just remove c:\ubuntu and start over
[07:58] <mystogan> bez,you have  to select something else while installing rather than alongside windows for dual boot
[07:58] <cfhowlett> nydel, will that effect the bootloader?
[07:59] <ObrienDave> someone needs to SHOOT wubi
[07:59] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, we have.  it keeps raising from the dead.
[07:59] <Gatis> I pressed hotkey and got black screen - got to restart pc
[07:59] <nydel> Gatis: nono
[08:00] <nydel> Gatis: ctrl-alt-f7 or f6 will put that back, i remembered wrong
[08:00] <Bez> nydel, i dont have that kind of folder. mystogan, what?
[08:01] <Gatis> mystogan, i don't have MyUnity icon :)
[08:01] <nydel> cfhowlett: i don't know now..if there's no wubi .disk then.. what the heck did the install even do?
[08:01] <nydel> maybe it installed but without a bootloader?
[08:02] <Bez> cfhowlett, where can i find the instruction to do a proper dual boot
[08:03] <nydel> Gatis: ctrl-alt-f1 thru f12 changes your terminal. i made you switch to a blank potential window manager, F1 would've brought you to text, default is f7 i think. apologies for the wrong advice
[08:03] <iptable> Bez, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | bez
[08:04] <Gatis> nydel, no it closed my Desktop Environment and i got only CLI Shell
[08:04] <Gatis> hat to restart
[08:05] <trijntje> Gatis: no, you could have switched back to the Desktop with ctrl +alt +f7
[08:05] <Gatis> ok i better study myself :)
[08:05] <Gatis> trijntje, anyway it has different function
[08:06] <nydel> Gatis: trijntje is right but often if effects are on you will come back to a blank screen
[08:06] <Gatis> i think that CTRL + ALT + F7 is hotkey for LightDM
[08:07] <Gatis> to switch between sessions
[08:07] <Gatis> from cli to gui
[08:07] <nydel> that's the idea basically. often i'll log in at C-alt-f1 to do "pkill -u nydel" and kill all my processes without having to reboot.
[08:08] <ObrienDave> Gatis, ctrl alt f7 is to return to GUI from TTY1-6
[08:08] <Bez> cfhowlett, there is no way to install ubuntu from the iso file inside win7 without making a dualboot?
[08:08] <nydel> often if you have effects, there is trouble getting back to your window manager from a tty
[08:08] <Gatis> what is tty1-6?
[08:09] <ObrienDave> Bez, that is what WUBI is for. WUBI needs to die a slow painful death
[08:09] <nydel> ctrl-alt-f1 takes you to tty1, terminal 1 - f2 to tty2 & etc
[08:09] <ObrienDave> gatis ctrl-alt-f1 thru f6 are terminal screens. ctrl-alt-f7 returns to GUI
[08:10] <Gatis> OK that's not what i need but thanks for info
[08:10] <ghost_> hii all., ?
[08:11] <nydel> i am almost sure the hotkey i was thinking of was alt-shift-f11 -- instead of trusting me though, go to keyboard settings and see if i'm right
[08:11] <nydel> i know there is a key for it Gatis i just can't remember the default.
[08:12] <Bez> ObrienDave, so i need to install the wubi first in order to get this done?
[08:12] <trijntje> no, never ever install wubi, its unstable and crappy, and won't solve your problem
[08:12] <ObrienDave> Bez, i don't really know, WUBI installs are NOT supported here, afaik
[08:13] <trijntje> I dont even know why it hasn't been removed from the iso
[08:13] <ghost_> hii
[08:13] <ObrienDave> WUBI is a pox on the entire Ubuntu world
[08:13] <deb_ac> Hey guys, how do I move folders in gvfs trash:/// to ~/x ?
[08:13] <nydel> Bez: one human being to another, don't be scared of dual boot. wubi is not the answer. you can pull off a dualboot setup easily my friend, new installers make it easy.
[08:13] <ObrienDave> ghost_, greetings and welcome
[08:14] <ghost_> ok Obrie
[08:15] <deb_ac> I cant restore via nautilus because the files have root ownership and sudo nautilus dosnt load any files in the trash...
[08:15] <nydel> listen to ObrienDave please. nothing good will come of trying to wubi. it's over.
[08:15] <nydel> deb_ac: gksu nautilus should have your trash files in /home/user/.trash
[08:15] <nydel> or maybe .Trash
[08:16] <ObrienDave> Bez, if you insist on doing a WUBI install, then peace be with you and good luck
[08:16] <Bez> i am totaly confused. there is no a simple way to get ubuntu...
[08:16] <Classified2> When will Ubuntu stop spying in its users as a business model?
[08:17] <Classified2> How many people here realize that Ubuntu's default settings mean you are getting spied on?
[08:17] <deb_ac> nydel, nope.. also not in  $XDG_DATA_DIRS/trash
[08:17] <iptable> Bez, is there no simple way to get windows to run inside ubuntu or mac? no. you dual boot. same story here. ALTHOUGH, you could install virtualbox and run ubuntu in a virtual machine if you just want to test.
[08:17] <ObrienDave> Bez, a dual boot is safe, easy and supported here
[08:17] <nydel> well-put, iptable
[08:18] <mkanyicy> deb_ac: nydel it looks like gksu nautilus runs nautilus using the root environment
[08:18] <ObrienDave> Bez, well, fairly safe to dual boot
[08:18] <iptable> Classified2, every user who read the T&C. Ignorance is not ubuntu problem and this channel is not for these discussions.
[08:18] <Classified2> That is the same answer Microsoft gives
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Bez, there IS a simple way.  install virtualbox to windows.  download 32 bit lubuntu.  install to virtualbox.  install lubuntu guest additions.
[08:18] <Classified2> ...read the fine print
[08:18] <ObrienDave> Classified2, don't spread FUD here, thank you, go away
[08:19] <Classified2> How is that FUD? How is stating something that is actually TRUE, fud?
[08:19] <nydel> let's talk to the nice and sane people
[08:19] <iptable> Classified2, and if that question was a support question, feel free to install ubuntu-server and then install the GUI of your choice which doesn't share your search information by default. Or go to system settings and disable that. or use lubuntu, xubuntu, linux mint or another which doesn't have such feature. Does Microsoft give you that choice?
[08:19] <nydel> agreed?
[08:19] <nydel> only to the nice and sane people. agreed?
[08:19] <iptable> agreed
[08:19] <ObrienDave> *** NO FEEDING TROLLS ***
[08:19] <cfhowlett> Classified2, no.  fud today thank you.  Feel free to discuss somewhere else.  You've know the rules and, as previously, if you violate them you will be kicked.  again.
[08:19] <iptable> sorry
[08:20] <nydel> deb_ac: what are you trying to restore, something in trash?
[08:20] <Classified2> Ubuntu's usual tactics, label anyone that tries to warn the users with actual truth
[08:20] <deb_ac> nydel, yeah a bunch of dirs that were sent there on accident
[08:20] <ObrienDave> Classified2, strike #2
[08:20] <iptable> Classified2, warn on ##linux then
[08:20] <Classified2> ...Our business model is getting threatened, quick marginalize and label that truth teller over there!
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Classified2, no, we only lables disruptive people who troll as such.
[08:20] <nydel> thank you all for making this technical support channel wonderful. it is a technical support channel.
[08:20] <ObrienDave> *** NO FEEDING TROLLS ***
[08:21] <cynicallemon>  Classified2 are you RMS?
[08:21] <Classified2> War on Linux? Not all distros spy in it's users
[08:21] <trijntje> Classified2: look out, I hear that if you use firefox that means you are spied on!!!111!!
[08:21] <cfhowlett> !ot
[08:21] <iptable> cynicallemon, Root Mean Square? ;)
[08:21] <Bez> thanks you all i will take your advise and make a dual boot, thanks again. virtual machine is not the answer for me. i want to use ubuntu on a regular basis.
[08:21] <Classified2> I have a support question though
[08:21] <ObrienDave> RIGHT
[08:21] <cynicallemon> iptable: no, worse
[08:21] <cfhowlett> Classified2, no FUD and ubuntu support only.  ask.
[08:22] <Classified2> How can I get Ubuntu to install on users computers such that by default, it does not spy on the users?
[08:22] <iptable> cynicallemon, Royal Microscopical Society?
[08:22] <Classified2> It is not FUD, it is the truth
[08:22] <cfhowlett> Classified2, Linux From Scratch.
[08:22] <iptable> Classified2, for your definition of "spy", just install lubuntu/xubuntu/linux mint/kubuntu or other. problem solved. move on.
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Classified2, roll your own distro, include/don't include whatever you want/don't want.  Now let's all move on.
[08:23] <ObrienDave> i love a good ignore command ;P
[08:23] <Classified2> Ok I am out of here... last thought - spying on  your users by default is not cool, it is not correct, it is not ethical...it is wrong
[08:23] <Classified2> Buh bye
[08:23] <Classified2> exit
[08:23] <nydel> Classified2: filter 22
[08:23]  * nydel winks
[08:23] <nydel> any luck there deb_ac ?
[08:23] <Gatis> CmopizManager will do
[08:23] <cynicallemon> i would be more concerned about privacy from the likes of the NSA rather than canonical
[08:23] <iptable> ooh, we made a troll actually quit a channel of his own accord. I need to print and laminate this!
[08:24] <ObrienDave> YAY!!!
[08:24] <iptable> let's skip the NSA chat here
[08:24] <ObrienDave> too late, they noticed us ;P
[08:25] <cynicallemon> iptable: it was RMS and he'll be back...
[08:25] <deb_ac> nydel, nah. last night I read all the offline gvfs docs I had, now im looking through online. Its weird that you can do "gvfs-ls trash:///" but not something like "gvfs-mv trash:/// /~/x
[08:26] <ObrienDave> deb_ac, why the / in front of ~
[08:27] <iptable> ObrienDave, seen the article on Linux Journal which tells you that if you access linux journal you get flagged by NSA? (oops, too late). nasty catch 22, made me laugh!
[08:27] <ObrienDave> LOL if you search for TAILS you get flagged also ;P
[08:27] <iptable> tails?
[08:28] <deb_ac> ObrienDave, accident. My point was that gvfs doesnt have a mv command
[08:28] <iptable> cynicallemon, what is RMS?
[08:28] <ObrienDave> The Amnesic Incognito Live System
[08:28] <iptable> oooh, iptable googles
[08:28] <cynicallemon> iptable: who is RMS more like
[08:28] <ObrienDave> iptable, or anything having to do with TOR
[08:28] <deb_ac> you get flagged for tails?
[08:28] <Gatis> I disabled Compiz effects but minimze windows function is now working anymore :/
[08:29] <ObrienDave> deb_ac, yup, believe it
[08:29] <cynicallemon> <<< linux journal, tor, vpns - im high on their list...
[08:29] <iptable> ObrienDave, I recently googled for "why is tor so shit" out of annoyance, I guess I am flagged :D
[08:29] <ObrienDave> probably ROFL
[08:30] <nydel> flagged?
[08:30] <iptable> cynicallemon, do explain. abbhreviation listing doesn't pull up anything relevant
[08:30] <ObrienDave> nydel, they ARE watching you now ;P
[08:30] <iptable> ah, "linux journal" is actually classified by NSA as "extrimist forum"
[08:31] <nydel> they being NŞÁ? i doubt they are interested in a linux tech support channel.
[08:31] <iptable> for those who want to go there and read it: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
[08:31] <deb_ac> Im sure they analyze any logged ircs rooms as well. So it seems we might all be screwed
[08:31] <iptable> Gatis, compiz is your window composer, it is what draws minimise windows and makes it work
[08:32] <iptable> oh
[08:32] <Gatis> nydel, ok CompizManager worked :)
[08:32] <ObrienDave> nydel, it's not this forum, but searching for TAILS, TOR, Linux Journal, etc, gets YOU tagged for extra surveillance
[08:33] <nydel> Gatis: that's wonderful! it can be a chore getting control of compiz. way to go
[08:33] <iptable> cynicallemon, rms as in this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[08:33] <nydel> ObrienDave: do you have a source to cite on that claim?
[08:33]  * cynicallemon applauds iptable 
[08:33] <iptable> ObrienDave, I'm searching for those now ;) btw, if I search for all at the same time, do I get extra NSA points?
[08:33] <nydel> i mean not to imply doubt i just literally want the source
[08:34] <iptable> cynicallemon, took me a while :D
[08:34] <cynicallemon> :)
[08:34] <ObrienDave> nydel, look it up
[08:34] <ObrienDave> iptable, yup ;P
[08:35] <Gatis> Oh yes, nydel, im configuring how dash looks the way i like it :)
[08:35] <victoria> hello
[08:36] <nydel> it's important to remember that hacking is not illegal. hacking is tinkering with technology to understand new things. how bored an observer would be watching me accidentally make Gatis have to reboot & discussing gvfs with deb_ac ...
[08:36] <victoria> somebody knows who to install zen cart on ubuntu 14.10?
[08:36] <victoria> thanks
[08:36] <iptable> nydel, sources found here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=TAILS%2C+TOR%2C+Linux+Journal%2C+NSA%2C+extremist+terror
[08:36] <iptable> nydel, note, you will be flagged by looking for them
[08:36] <nydel> that's not a source it's a query
[08:37] <nydel> does giggle inform you that you are "flagged"?
[08:37] <iptable> nydel, yes, it points at the sources
[08:37] <iptable> nydel, nah, that would be too simple
[08:38] <iptable> victoria, ubuntu 14.10 is not yet supported. it's not out yet.
[08:38] <victoria> ops
[08:38] <bcvery> victoria, 14.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[08:39] <victoria> sorry i mean 14.04.
[08:39] <victoria> ok i take i look there
[08:39] <nydel> assuming that goggling these keywords does mark an individual.. is there anything fun about being flagged? i mean, do i want to do it? do you? if so why, what would be the result?
[08:40] <victoria> i cannot finde ubuntu+1
[08:41] <nydel> victoria: simply /join #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <victoria> ok i try
[08:41] <victoria> thanks
[08:42] <nydel> yw
[08:43]  * lavi is beating spammers face...
[08:43] <nydel> i'm serious buntufolk, have y'all intentionally gone and tried to get flagged yourselves? or intentionally avoided it? i'm curious, i don't understand exactly how we're feeling about this.
[08:44] <pennies> hi is anyone around, i have a question about running jnlp files on 64 bit ubuntu
[08:44] <nydel> go ahead pennies you don't need to ask
[08:44] <pennies> alright, that basically is my question
[08:44] <iptable> nydel, if too many people get flagged, the excercise is pointless and they stop doing that
[08:44] <pennies> when i try to open them in firefox nothing is happening
[08:45] <pennies> im kinda new to linux btw
[08:45] <nydel> iptable: aha! that is the point i was missing. of course. so we should all do it
[08:46] <iptable> nydel, although, I am just ignonrant and I don't care. I don't live in US and I do not do anything illegal as far as UK gov is concerned, so ... I simply don't care.
[08:46] <nydel> pennies: that's okay friend, let's see if we can figure out what's stopping your jnlp files from execution via firefox
[08:46] <pennies> thank you :)
[08:46] <iptable> nydel, so I find it fun to get flagged. especially searches like "NSA, please flag me for TAILS TOR Linux Journal extremist"
[08:46] <iptable> must annoy them :D
[08:47] <nydel> iptable: i'm american but i don't break the law. no clever hacker does. i also work in government though, but not directly connected to NŚâ
[08:48] <Gatis> Im trying to find in CompizManager where i can disable dash fade effect
[08:48] <Gatis> can't find
[08:49] <nydel> pennies: have you installed open-jdk?
[08:50] <pennies> i believe i did but im not sure if it installed correctly
[08:50] <pennies> is there a command i can run to make sure
[08:51] <nydel> pennies: apt-get install openjdk-6-jre openjdk-7-jre
[08:52] <cynicallemon> openjdk-7-jre should do
[08:52] <pennies> nydel i got this message
[08:53] <pennies> Could not open lock file /var/lib/
[08:53] <pennies> dpkg/lock - open (13 - permission denied)
[08:53] <iptable> pennies, sudo
[08:53] <nydel> sudo
[08:53] <pennies> o yeah oops
[08:53] <nydel> ty cynicallemon, pennies you should be fine with just 7
[08:53] <cynicallemon> sudo at the beginning pennies
[08:54] <pennies> alright it gave me
[08:54] <cynicallemon> sudo apt-get install ........
[08:54] <nydel> also (feel free to jump in here cynicallemon) i think you might need "icedtea-plugin" package
[08:54] <pennies> unable to locate package jdk-7-jre
[08:54] <nydel> sudo apt-get install opejdk-7-jre icedtea-plugin
[08:54] <iptable> for firefox and other browser support, you DO need icedtea-plugin
[08:54] <cynicallemon> openjdk-7-jre
[08:55] <iptable> let me correct the spelling mistakes
[08:55] <nydel> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-plugin
[08:55] <iptable> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-plugin
[08:55] <cynicallemon> lol
[08:55] <pennies> alright i got a few messages that give me 404s
[08:55] <iptable> hah, double we got it right :D
[08:55] <pennies> is it installed?
[08:55] <iptable> pennies, so you cannot install software. what version of ubuntu?
[08:55] <nydel> ha thank you iptable
[08:56] <nydel> pennis can you give us the output of "uname -a"
[08:56] <cynicallemon> one of those packages installs the other i think but cant remember which installs which
[08:56] <pennies> its a virtual machine idk if that makes a difference
[08:56] <cynicallemon> pennis?
[08:56] <Gatis> Anyone know how to disable dash menu fade effect, please?
[08:56] <pennies> lol
[08:56] <iptable> pennies, or better, give us the description field from this: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:57] <nydel> i don't even know what is happening. i don't make typography mistakes. have i been drugged?
[08:57] <nydel> i mean by someone other than myself of course
[08:57] <pennies> ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[08:57] <iptable> nydel, NDA doing
[08:57] <ObrienDave> it's THEM ;P
[08:57] <cynicallemon> nydel: its the nsa
[08:57] <pennies> is what i get from iptable 's command
[08:57] <iptable> pennies, ok, run this: sudo apt-get update
[08:57] <iptable> pennies, does that produce errors or goes through?
[08:57] <pennies> its going through
[08:57] <pennies> alright its done
[08:58] <iptable> pennies, then once update finishes, run again sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-plugin
[08:58] <nydel> now again then
[08:58] <Gatis> Anyone know how to disable dash menu fade effect, please? Or is it not possible?
[08:58] <nydel> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-plugin
[08:58] <pennies> ok iptable
[08:58] <pennies> and nydel
[08:58] <pennies> alright no 404s this time its loading
[08:58] <xsoultribex> gatis, configure it in ccsm goto unity
[08:59] <Gatis> xsoultribex, im there
[08:59] <nydel> there should be an extensive set of options for compiz Gatis are you not seeing that one in the list
[08:59] <Gatis> nydel, i checked all
[08:59] <pennies> alright its still going
[08:59] <pennies> unpacking things
[08:59] <xsoultribex> did you find it? @gatis
[09:00] <Gatis> xsoultribex, yes im in ccsm in unity tab
[09:00] <iptable> pennies, ok, it will take a while and at the end you will have java and java browser plugins installed. restart firefox and all good
[09:00] <pennies> ok i think its done
[09:00] <pennies> yep done
[09:00] <nydel> pennies: while you're doing this, you might consider grabbing firefox trunk / "nightly build" if you don't already use that
[09:01] <pennies> im just using the default one that came with it
[09:01] <iptable> pennies, everything working now?
[09:01] <linuxuz3r> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Next-with-Unity-8-and-Mir-on-the-Desktop-Screen-Tour-456641.shtml#sgal_5
[09:01] <pennies> let me try to open the jnlp file
[09:01] <linuxuz3r> it looks so nice
[09:01] <iptable> pennies, yeah, default fireefox is ok
[09:01] <nydel> give it a go see if it works
[09:01] <xsoultribex> just try to explore in unity tab in ccsm
[09:01] <pennies> alright it seems to be working
[09:02] <iptable> awesome
[09:02] <pennies> downloading
[09:02] <xsoultribex> you should find it..
[09:02] <Gatis> xsoultribex, can't
[09:02] <nydel> way to go pennies!
[09:02] <pennies> now nothing
[09:02] <pennies> hmmm
[09:03] <nydel> the file, pennies, is it local or online
[09:03] <pennies> its online
[09:03] <pennies> and here it goes
[09:03] <pennies> it worked!
[09:04] <pennies> thanks guys :)
[09:04] <pennies> i really appreciate it
[09:04] <nydel> clap clap! good work bud
[09:04] <Gatis> My Ubuntu Unity desktop is much faster now
[09:04] <cynicallemon> another satisfied customer :)
[09:04] <Gatis> :)
[09:05] <Gatis> xsoultribex, i read that Unity Dash is hard coded and can't disable fade effect.
[09:05] <Gatis> but i everything else i have disabled :)
[09:05] <nydel> compiz can be a monster, gotta remind it who's boss every now and then :)
[09:06] <pennies> i'm off for now, but don't be surprised if i return with more questions hehe
[09:06] <pennies> thanks again
[09:06] <cynicallemon> Gatis: disable unity and install xfce :)
[09:06] <nydel> anytime pennies you have a lovely day & be good
[09:06] <Gatis> Unfortunately, the fade/opacity animation and associated times are hard-coded in the Unity source code.
[09:06] <ObrienDave> pennies, always welcome
[09:06] <xsoultribex> when im using unity lately, ive disabled it in ccsm
[09:06] <Gatis> cynicallemon, im fine now
[09:06] <Gatis> xsoultribex, how?
[09:06] <nydel> cynicallemon's point remains valid hehe
[09:07] <drewjo> !sudo > pennies
[09:07] <xsoultribex> try to browse in workaround in ccsm
[09:07] <pennies> thanks you too nydel
[09:07] <xsoultribex> cant show u now cuz im using gnome, unity tab doesnt exist in my ccsm
[09:08] <Gatis> Gnome 3.0?
[09:08] <Gatis> xsoultribex, i read in forums that can't disable dash fade effect with ccsm
[09:09] <nydel> you could disable the dash altogether, replace it with cairo-dock :)
[09:09] <Gatis> Im fine.. now :) i configured and now it's much faster pc
[09:10] <Blenda> you can save a lot of meme with nydel advice
[09:10] <Blenda> mem
[09:10] <Gatis> what exactly is cairo-dock?
[09:10] <Blenda> osx like
[09:11] <Gatis> ah :)
[09:11] <Blenda> when login click the button above the password, choose cairo, you will save mem
[09:12] <Blenda> and top and left bar vanished
[09:12] <nydel> exactly Blenda, and it's a beautiful little dock really
[09:12] <Gatis> Is it DE?
[09:12] <Blenda> yep, higly configurable
[09:12] <Blenda> install it from soft center
[09:13] <nydel> i just installed cairo-dock and am running it on top of my kde instance
[09:13] <nydel> weeeeeeee scrolling and icon-size prettiness
[09:13] <ranjan> hi, any glusterfs guys here?
[09:13] <Gatis> You got me interesed
[09:13] <Blenda> sure
[09:13] <pennies> hey guys, quick question, i want to make a list of things to do to basically quickly install java and what not, so if anyone was here to see what was explained to me above, could you copy and paste the commands
[09:14] <pennies> i want to show someone else how to do what i just did but i dont know the commands by heart, and since i left the chan the things are all gone unfortunately
[09:14] <pennies> i know i had to update something, but i dont remember what it was
[09:14] <pennies> and then install java
[09:14] <Blenda> pennies, there should be a save discussions options in your chat client
[09:15] <pennies> im on a web client right now so theres nothing sadly
[09:15] <Blenda> oh
[09:15] <nydel> pennies: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8167290/
[09:16] <pennies> thank you
[09:16] <cynicallemon> pennies a quick way to get java, flash and other useful stuff is to install the ubuntu-restricted-extas package
[09:16] <pennies> ok
[09:16] <pennies> was this the command to update it
[09:16] <pennies> sudo apt-get update
[09:16] <nydel> i left out "apt-get update"
[09:16] <gvo> I can't seem to get my front panel audio to work. In the MB manual it talks about configuring the connector for either a AC'97 audio standard (default) or a High Definition Audio panel. The case is a cosair carbide mid-tower. Can I assume that the front panel audio is not a HD Audio Panel? The Corsair site doesn't say one way or another. Running 14.04
[09:16] <nydel> lol
[09:16] <pennies> yeah
[09:16] <pennies> lol
[09:16] <Gatis> Before i install cairo-dock.. Explain me, please what cairo-dock exactly is? DE? panel? shell? what it is based on?
[09:17] <nydel> simplified, pennies: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8167305/
[09:17] <pennies> thanks nydel
[09:17] <Blenda> dk but you take no risk intalling it really
[09:17] <pennies> thank you
[09:17] <nydel> yw always
[09:17] <pennies> hm i just experienced a problem
[09:17] <Blenda> gatis, it won't replace ubuntu one, you'll have both unitl you log with cairo only
[09:18] <pennies> my jnlp file that i opened
[09:18] <pennies> randomly closed
[09:18] <Gatis> Blenda, is it like Compiz plugin?
[09:18] <nydel> browser instance disappeared?
[09:18] <weawwe> hi, which desktop environment looks schmick ?
[09:18] <nydel> Gatis: it's tiny
[09:18] <labrador1787> hello
[09:18] <nydel> compiz and unity are gigantic thingies
[09:18] <Blenda> gatis: dk sorry
[09:18] <labrador1787> qualcuno italiano???
[09:18] <pennies> yeah it just closed out for some reason, now i have to redownload it again
[09:18] <weawwe> si
[09:19] <ObrienDave> !it | labrador1787
[09:19] <k1l> !it | labrador1787
[09:19] <pennies> i didnt do anything, i wasnt even in the VM i just noticed it closed
[09:19] <pennies> and then i checked to see what it was and it was the app
[09:19] <Gatis> !cairo-dock
[09:19] <weawwe> si senor, labrador1787
[09:20] <pennies> strange, i redownloaded and it works fine
[09:20] <pennies> is there a log i'm able to check to see why it closed out?
[09:21] <nydel> yes, error console
[09:21] <Gatis> Ok thank.s im going to install cairo-dock
[09:21] <Blenda> !cairo-dock
[09:21] <Blenda> does nothing
[09:22] <Gatis> !help cairo-dock
[09:22] <Gatis> !help
[09:22] <ObrienDave> !info cairo-dock
[09:22] <nydel> C-m-s in firefox i think
[09:22] <drewjo> !hostname
[09:22] <nydel> i mean ctrl-alt-s (alt is called 'meta' a lot)
[09:22] <k1l> Gatis: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock   its called glx dock now
[09:23] <deb_ac> Hey guys, my trash isnt in /root/.local/share/Trash ,  $XDG_DATA_DIRS/trash , or /home/user/.trash . My internet connection is shit and irc is the only thing that works (sometimes). Any ideas?
[09:23] <Gatis> Ok, thanks.
[09:24] <nydel> oh but pennies default firefox doesn't come with developer tools probably, that will be an add-on at addons.mozilla
[09:24] <pennies> nydel is there an error console built into ubuntu
[09:24] <pennies> like not from firefox
[09:24] <Gatis> So i should log out now and select cairo-dock?
[09:24] <nydel> well, filesystem /var/log
[09:25] <hateball> deb_ac: it should be in ~/.local/share/Trash, but you could "find ~/ |grep -i trash" to see if you can find it
[09:25] <hateball> deb_ac: as for IRC working and browsing not, perhaps DNS issues?
[09:25] <Blenda> Gatis, no, try it before, once you have your habits with it, yes
[09:26] <deb_ac> hasteball, its just Kenya
[09:26] <Blenda> gatis, here i save 1go doing this
[09:27] <deb_ac> hasteball, thats did it!
[09:27] <deb_ac> hasteball, thanks!
[09:27] <JohnQ> If I have a disk with two partitions, (sdb1 and sdb2), and I use parted to delete sdb1, and then get the kernel to re-read the partition table, will the old sdb2 become sdb1?  or will it remain sdb2 and there won't be a sdb1at all?
[09:27] <pennies> hm doesnt seem to be anything in there
[09:27] <pennies> ill watch for if it happens again
[09:27] <pennies> i should be looking in syslog, correct?
[09:27] <nydel> pennies: did you try "ls /var/log/"
[09:28] <iptable> JohnQ, hard to say. hence people say "use UUID instead"
[09:28] <nydel> pennies: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-view-and-configure-linux-logs-on-ubuntu-and-centos
[09:28] <iptable> JohnQ, it will most likely become sdb1
[09:28] <drewjo> !mainline
[09:28] <nydel> i spend a ton of time just looking around in /var/log :) it's like my happy place
[09:28] <JohnQ> iptable: any ideas on where to go to get an authoritative answer?  (Without actually trying it on my drive?)
[09:28] <pennies> nydel, just tried ls /var/log/ and got a few things back, not sure what i should be looking for
[09:29] <iptable> JohnQ, that IS the authoritative answer
[09:29] <JohnQ> "most likely" doesnt sound authoritative.
[09:29] <iptable> JohnQ, basically, depends. normally it should remap to sdb1, ocasionally, depending on the situation and partition table and kernel, it might not
[09:29] <iptable> JohnQ, depends
[09:30] <iptable> JohnQ, that is why we invented UUID and told people to use those instead you know.
[09:30] <gatis> Hi
[09:30] <iptable> JohnQ, install and run blkid to see UUIDs
[09:30] <TJ-> JohnQ: Partition tables have numbered slots. Those numbers don't change just because you delete the entry in the slot
[09:30] <Gatis> I installeed cairo-dock but DE didn't start
[09:30] <Gatis> im trough CLI now
[09:30] <nydel> the URL i posted to chat a minute ago is a great intro to the linux logging system, pennies .. this is getting in to some fun/hardcore real linux bones & viscera stuff
[09:30] <JohnQ> TJ-: thats what I was afraid of.
[09:30] <Gatis> using weechat :)
[09:30] <iptable> TJ-, but if I restart, the number slot will change.
[09:30] <iptable> TJ-, normally ;)
[09:30] <TJ-> iptable: No, it won't, ever
[09:31] <JohnQ> That sounded much more authoritative.  :-)
[09:31] <pennies> nydel, im reviewing it now
[09:31] <Gatis> I isntalled cairo-dock but DE didn't start. im trough CLI shell using weechat now :(
[09:31] <iptable> TJ-, you are assuming a lot about everything, including the partition tool in question.
[09:31] <iptable> JohnQ, and wrong
[09:31] <TJ-> iptable: MBR partition table has 4 slots. A PT entry is simply 16 bytes describing a start/size/type of each partition.
[09:31] <Gatis> My DE has black screen :/
[09:32] <JohnQ> It's a GPT table.
[09:32] <iptable> TJ-, yes, and some tools may also move slots around because they think it's right. partition magic used to as well
[09:32] <Blenda> Gatis: no pb here
[09:32] <JohnQ> and IM using "parted"
[09:32] <iptable> JohnQ, why are you not using UUID btw?
[09:32] <nydel> Gatis: press ctrl-alt-backspace and try again -- if it doesn't work, log in to Unity
[09:32] <JohnQ> iptable: I didnt make this disk.  I dont have the option of UUID here.
[09:33] <nydel> Gatis: from where you can just run "cairo-dock" from the launcher. if you like it you can use it with xfce or something
[09:33] <Gatis> nydel: no response from ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:33] <iptable> JohnQ, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid doesn't show? oh well...
[09:33] <nydel> Gatis: Ctrl-Z then "pkill -u (your linux username)"
[09:33] <TJ-> iptable: JohnQ :The question was in relation to "parted rm 1"
[09:33] <iptable> JohnQ, what's the actual problem btw? i=you haven't told us
[09:33] <JohnQ> Its more complicated than that.  But UUID is not an option here.
[09:33] <Gatis> I get warning: GTK warning cannot open display
[09:34] <iptable> TJ-, I missed the "parted" bit as well.
[09:34] <TJ-> JohnQ: "cat /proc/partitions" won't show an empty slot
[09:34] <JohnQ> I have a disk with an ntfs partition on sdb2, and I need it to be on sdb1.  Thats it.
[09:34] <nydel> Gatis: when do you get that warning
[09:34] <iptable> JohnQ, move the partition definition to first slot
[09:35] <nydel> if you run "pkill -u {username}" it should redirect you to login screen
[09:35] <iptable> JohnQ, you should have asked. 1. remove sdb1 partition, 2. move partition definition in slot 2 to slot 1 in MBR to map it to sdb1. note a reboot may be required.
[09:35] <Gatis> i tried sudo cairo-dock
[09:35] <TJ-> JohnQ: What relies on the partition # ?
[09:35] <JohnQ> A third party tool I cant control unfortunately.
[09:35] <nydel> are you in unity?
[09:35] <nydel> or still text
[09:35] <iptable> JohnQ, it's hardcoded to sdb1?
[09:36] <JohnQ> Yep
[09:36] <TJ-> JohnQ: Can't you simply do "sudo ln -s /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb1" id sdb1 is no longer available?
[09:36] <iptable> don't use it?
[09:36] <JohnQ> TJ-: hah that might work too.. :-)
[09:36] <TJ-> JohnQ: s/id/if/
[09:37] <JohnQ> though, /dev is a udev fs, I dont think I can muck with those.
[09:37] <TJ-> JohnQ: Failing that you can just create the device node with the same major/minor numbers at /dev/sdb1 as is at /dev/sdb2
[09:37] <TJ-> JohnQ: I do all the time :)
[09:37] <iptable> TJ-, JohnQ just tested. yes, TJ- method does work. symbolic link in /dev references correctly
[09:37] <JohnQ> I'll give that a whack.
[09:37] <TJ-> JohnQ: "mknod" is probably a 100% bullet-proof method - sym-links can sometimes not be resolved
[09:38] <JohnQ> Yeah, thats my plan.
[09:38] <gatis> hmm
[09:38] <gatis> Ok pkill -u worked
[09:39] <gatis> but i  cairo-dock doesn't work though
[09:39] <gatis> it's just not logging in i just see background
[09:40] <nydel> did you log into unity?
[09:40] <gatis> nydel: no
[09:41] <nydel> gatis: ok at the blank screen, can you call a terminal? ctrl-t?
[09:41] <nydel> ctrl-alt-t i mean
[09:41] <gatis> no
[09:42] <nydel> that's okay. log into unity
[09:42] <gatis> i tried in tty: sudo cairo-dock and recieved: error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
[09:43] <nydel> you can't do it like that
[09:43] <gatis> i guess
[09:43] <nydel> you should have it in the list of window managers
[09:43] <nydel> know what i mean? at login screen?
[09:43] <gatis> i had it at login screen
[09:43] <Bez> hello i tried to do dualboot but i got the same problem as describe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282778/ubuntu-installer-not-seeing-free-space-on-hard-disk-dual-boot
[09:43] <gatis> cairo-dock session
[09:43] <gatis> But it didn't load interface just background
[09:44] <Bez> no clue what should i do next
[09:44] <nydel> gatis: is there a cursor? mouse
[09:44] <gatis> nydel: yes
[09:44] <nydel> right-click does nothing? pushing the mouse to the screen left does nothing?
[09:45] <gatis> nydel nothing
[09:45] <nydel> ok it needs something else, just log into unity
[09:46] <nydel> you can run a cairo-dock inside of unity and if you like it you can attach it to the "something else" it needs
[09:46] <JohnQ> TJ-: iptable: Thanks, modifying /dev/sdb1 worked.   Now all I need to do is remember to change it back when Im done :-)
[09:47] <TJ-> JohnQ: It'll be gone at the next reboot :)
[09:47] <Gatis> :)
[09:47] <JohnQ> TJ-: That'll work too.  Thanks again.
[09:49] <Gatis> strange
[09:50] <mfoo> Hi, how can I query apt specifically for the names of packages with available critical updates? There seems to be a lot of information about fetching the number, but not the names
[09:50] <mfoo> s/number/quantity of packages/
[09:51] <Gatis> nydel, ideas?
[09:51] <drewjo> holy balls this kernel is taking a long time to compile
[09:52] <Bez> any help?
[09:53] <nydel> Gatis: are you back in unity?
[09:53] <Gatis> yes
[09:53] <cfhowlett> bez.  make ubuntu usb.  when you need ubuntu, boot the USB.  done.
[09:53] <nydel> ok at launcher type cairo-dock
[09:54] <nydel> it'll run on top of unity
[09:55] <Gatis> nydel, it asks me if i want to use OpenGl
[09:55] <Gatis> SHould i use it? I have 128 mb ATI integrated video card :/
[09:55] <Bez> cfhowlett, in other words no ubuntu for me?
[09:55] <nydel> you do. i do. i dunno. we're having fun, no wrong answers :)
[09:55] <nydel> i would use opengl.
[09:56] <Gatis> o
[09:56] <Gatis> ok
[09:56] <nydel> i /am/ using opengl. i'm running cairo right now on top of kde & plasma
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Bez, not quite.
[09:56] <ObrienDave> bez, you can use the "something else" option to get it to install to the empty partitions
[09:57] <Gatis> nydel, ok it's running :)
[09:57] <nydel> woo! is it pretty
[09:57] <Gatis> yes it is
[09:57] <Bez> ObrienDave, this is my problem ubuntu does not recognize the empty partitions
[09:57] <nydel> it's super-customizable, right-click it someplace nice & find config
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Bez, reinstall windows.  wipe the entire HDD.  assign half to windows7.  install.  boot ubuntu.  install.  if you use the dualboot instructions referenced earlier this should work without issue.  NO LDM or weird stuff like that, just a regular partition scheme and dual booting will work.
[09:58] <Gatis> nydel, now i need to know if it will work from login screen :)
[09:58] <nydel> well if you wanna run it, i would run it with openbox
[09:58] <nydel> that's what i do when i don't need kde
[09:58] <nydel> openbox, cairo-dock & lxpanel
[09:59] <nydel> you don't need lxpanel i just like having a clock hehe
[09:59] <nydel> don't think of it like "i have to choos one way to do this"
[09:59] <nydel> *choose
[09:59] <nydel> think "look at all this crazy stuff, i can make whatever workspace i feel is best for me that day"
[10:00] <nydel> :) fun. woo!
[10:00] <Gatis> nydel, ill logout and login in will see if it works now
[10:00] <nydel> wait wait
[10:01] <nydel> i don't think it WILL work with just a cairo-dock session, let me see something real quick about why
[10:02] <nydel> actually i'm going to log out and try it myself and see what happens, hell, maybe it will work
[10:02] <nydel> back in a few minutes either way
[10:02] <Gatis> ok
[10:04] <drewjo> I'm compiling mainline linux
[10:04] <drewjo> taking soooooo long
[10:05] <ObrienDave> why would you want to do that?
[10:06] <nydel> Gatis: i'm in a "Cairo-Dock Gnome Session" which was my only cairo-dock option
[10:06] <nydel> Gatis: any luck for you?
[10:07] <nydel> brb
[10:11] <Gatis> nydel, CD gnome session doesn't work for me
[10:12] <nydel> Gatis: i'd update gnome. or install openbox! openbox is great
[10:13] <Gatis> i have openbox
[10:13] <nydel> Gatis: the important thing is don't think of cairo as a window manager all its own. it's more a tiny program to slap on top of a tiny window manager
[10:13] <nydel> does openbox work for you, sessions don't blank out?
[10:13] <Gatis> openbox works
[10:14] <Gatis> nydel, http://glx-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=Cairo-Dock%20Session&lang=en
[10:14] <Gatis> I think i need to do that
[10:14] <nydel> i'm tweaking some things so i'm back in kde/plasma but i'm going to try openbox session with a tiny cairo-dock on the bottom & a lxpanel on the top
[10:15] <nydel> oooo Gatis now you're talking! that looks great
[10:15] <nydel> i don't have a "with gnome without effects" for cairo in my list but that sounds awesome
[10:15] <Gatis> me neither
[10:16] <nydel> ha well i bet there's a gnome/no effects (or we can make gnome sessions and turn off effects)
[10:16] <nydel> then throw a cairo on top of it. same exact thing
[10:16] <nydel> did you download lxpanel? i feel i need it with cairo because cairo does launching and all but i like a taskbar and system tray
[10:17] <nydel> lxpanel is the tiniest little super-customizable panel i know of.
[10:17] <Gatis> yes
[10:17] <Gatis> maybe tint2?
[10:18] <nydel> oh i haven't tried this
[10:18] <nydel> is it in ubuntu repo?
[10:18] <nydel> hah it IS
[10:18] <nydel> installing
[10:18] <ObrienDave> !info tint2
[10:19] <Gatis> I tried it on Crunchbang it was tinier than lxpaner
[10:19] <nydel> we're on a grindhouse window-manager bloodlust binge
[10:19] <nydel> welcome to join ObrienDave
[10:19] <Gatis> strange that cairo-dock session work i have it in xsessions
[10:19] <Gatis> gatis@HP-Compaq-6715s-GR618ES-AK8:/usr/share/xsessions$ ls
[10:19] <Gatis> cairo-dock.desktop  openbox.desktop  ubuntu.desktop
[10:19] <nydel> or suggest? i bet you know of some thingies i don't
[10:20] <ObrienDave> nydel, i have enough trouble with XFWM4, thanks anyway ;P
[10:20] <nydel> see, i need to read the cairo-dock source. i don't know where it gets off trying to be a session on its own
[10:22] <nydel> to me it seems like trying to tell linux "use calculator as my wm session" ... calculator does stuff and has buttons but what does that have to do with being a window manager
[10:22] <darksider> hi all
[10:23] <ObrienDave> darksider, greetings and welcome
[10:23] <darksider> can anyone please point me to how to change the network interface name in ubuntu 14.04?
[10:24] <ObrienDave> umm, through edit network connections, i assume
[10:24]  * ObrienDave needs food
[10:25] <Gatis> Nydel, i don't know why my cairo-dock session doesn't work but yours work
[10:25] <Gatis> nydel what's in your /etc/lightdm/ folder?
[10:26] <TJ-> darksider: Using custom udev rules
[10:27] <darksider> hi TJ-
[10:27] <VictorCL> hi , how can I install opentype fonts?
[10:28] <darksider> TJ-: can you pls point me to some tutorial?
[10:29] <VictorCL> if I click on the font file  I get = Could not display “SourceCodePro-Black.eot”.
[10:30] <TJ-> darksider: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[10:31] <Arkai> Bonjour, une personne parle francais?
[10:31] <hateball> !fr | Arkai
[10:33] <VictorCL> !es
[10:37] <gabriel_> Quick question, if I (from trusty) want to install apache2 2.2.11 with all the dependencies from same version setup, how can I achieve this?
[10:38] <Gatis> nydel, there?
[10:40] <mrvadon> sssdffsfsssdsfdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd
[10:45] <bobbiy> where can i find the keymap file
[10:46] <Deaf_Mule> Do you mean for your keyboard?
[10:46] <bobbiy> yes
[10:48] <Deaf_Mule> What stoped you from setting it correctly while installing if I may ask?
[10:48] <Deaf_Mule> Or do you need it for another reason?
[10:50] <TLoFP> good morning guys. How might I benchmark an SSD Raid 0 array?
[10:50] <bobbiy> I need it for A other reason I think I can t use it but I think it should be almost the same as fedora
[10:51] <Deaf_Mule> Why not set it through the GUI? Or console only?
[10:51] <Gatis> I don't know why cairo-dock session doesn't work
[10:52] <Deaf_Mule> What do you mean doesn't work?
[10:52] <bobbiy> I need to do it in console
[10:52] <Gatis> Deaf_Mule, doesn't work
[10:53] <aantoon> after 2 days trying on my own, i need some help. did a fresh install ubuntu 12.04 32bit on a dell, has a 82865g intel integrated graphics controller. i can only start in recovery mode and only in a root shell. lshw gives "display unclaimed"
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> !details | Gatis
[10:53] <Deaf_Mule> Upgrade to 14.04 and try again, and for keymaps, if you have a gui "sudo apt-get install console-common && sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data" should do it
[10:53] <Deaf_Mule> If you don't have a gui I will quickly search around on how to set it from terminal
[10:54] <Gatis> MonkeyDust, I installed cairo-dock and it doesn't load upon login cairo-dock session.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> Deaf_Mule  make sure you put a name in front of your comments, so everybody knows who you are talking to
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  define "doesnt load", what happens when you try?
[10:55] <aantoon> Deaf-Mule are you talking to me?
[10:55] <Gatis> nothing just my desktop backround
[10:55] <Gatis> only mouse works
[10:55] <ObrienDave> aantoon, why oh WHY 12.04?
[10:56] <Gatis> hmm
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> ObrienDave  i use 12.04 too, because 14.04 has fan issues, causing my laptop to heat up and shut down
[10:57] <frib> i have gnome-power-manager installed, using fluxbox, but i can't execute the command .. it doesn't exist .. what's up with that?
[10:57] <Gatis> MonkeyDust, i will reinstall cairo-dock
[10:57] <aantoon> ObrienDave i have the same on my laptop, makes things easy  for me (spent a lot of time tweaking it, don't want to change)
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> frib  fluxbox is not gnome, try fuxbox's own power manager
[10:58] <frib> MonkeyDust, fluxbox doesn't have a power manager
[10:58] <ObrienDave> hmmm, i have no fan issues on my laptop. maybe yours needs a decent cleaning?
[10:58] <frib> you wouldn't believe how difficult it is to just find a simple system tray icon with battery percentage!
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> ObrienDave  it doesn have those fan issues with 12.04, so that's not it and i'm happy with 12.04
[10:59] <ObrienDave> ok then
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> frib  if you did find one, share with others where and how you found it
[11:00] <frib> MonkeyDust, i didn't that's why i'm here
[11:00] <frib> of course i will share i always share! :D
[11:01] <Gatis> Nice
[11:01] <Gatis> It works no
[11:01] <Gatis> now
[11:01] <frib> i think it doesn't exist beacuse i've been looking for a good 4-5 days
[11:01] <Gatis> :)
[11:01] <Gatis> I don;t know what was problem
[11:01] <Gatis> I think i didn't have Gnome session
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> frib  first hit in DDG http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/fluxbox-and-power-manager-4175499885/
[11:02] <Gatis> i installed sudo apt-get install gnome-session
[11:02] <Gatis> then cairo-dock and now works
[11:03] <frib> MonkeyDust, i tried that :\ but i'll try again
[11:03] <frib> MonkeyDust, https://bugs.launchpad.net/fluxbox/+bug/1074570
[11:04] <zoidberg-> Does anyone here use a DrayTek Vigor 120 ADSL modem? I just recieved mine in the post today and on the side, it has 4 exposed pins (i assume this is an RS232 port) was quite surprised to see these poking out of the router allowing me to play with it from a lower level? Wondered if they all come with this or if mine is just a special one? :)
[11:04] <Gatis> DO you know how to remove that small desktop icon at left from cairo-dock?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> zoidberg-  how is that question ubuntu related?
[11:04] <Gatis> Ah ok found it was switcher
[11:04] <Gatis> awesome
[11:05] <Gatis> I recommend cairo-dock :)
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  use what you like most
[11:05] <xubuntu> siemka
[11:06] <Gatis> Guest88517, siemka
[11:07] <Guest88517> czy xubuntu jest faktycznie takie szybkie ?
[11:07] <Guest88517> czy xubuntu jest faktycznie takie szybkie ?
[11:07] <zoidberg-> MonkeyDust: it isn't its a general question
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> zoidberg-  this channel is for ubuntu support only
[11:08] <Guest88517> sorry
[11:09] <Blenda> Gatis, so you enjoy cairodock? im linux noob, but don't advice when not sure :)
[11:09] <drewjo> !xubuntu > Guest88517
[11:09] <Gatis> Blenda, it's nice
[11:09] <drewjo> !english > Guest88517
[11:09] <Blenda> Gatis: could turn off top and left ubuntu bars?
[11:10] <ObrienDave> !cz | Guest88517
[11:10] <Gatis> Blenda, yes just use cairo-dock session in login screen!
[11:10] <frib> would it be easy to make one's own system tray icon?
[11:10] <Deaf_Mule> Blenda, I just installed Gnome classic instead, unless you like Unity
[11:10] <Gatis> frib, yes
[11:10] <zoidberg-> MonkeyDust: Really? I would never of guessed that.
[11:10] <TLoFP> hi, I am getting slower then expected write throughput to my disk array in Ubuntu, what might be going on?
[11:10] <frib> Gatis, can you point me in the right direciton, please?
[11:11] <Gatis> frib, you need an image editor
[11:11] <Gatis> gimp for an example..
[11:11] <frib> that i know
[11:11] <frib> i mean to load it from cli
[11:12] <drewjo> !unity
[11:12] <drewjo> !notunity
[11:12] <Gatis> Blenda, if you want something beatiful on slow pc and still want good performance then cairo-dock is perfect
[11:12] <Gatis> Unity is slowing down pc
[11:13] <Gatis> drewjo, thanks for tip
[11:13] <Gatis> I will install gnome-panel
[11:13] <Deaf_Mule> Gatis, Gnome classic, and Docky work well together, if you're after a windows feel.
[11:14] <Gatis> Deaf_Mule, yes
[11:14] <Gatis> Hmm it doesn't feel windows though
[11:14] <aantoon> how can i get 12.04 to claim my display from fresh install (no internet so apt-get don't work)
[11:14] <Deaf_Mule> I know what you mean, but I still like it, works well on my hardware for how sh!# it is
[11:15] <aantoon> i need some help. did a fresh install ubuntu 12.04 32bit on a dell, has a 82865g intel integrated graphics controller. i can only start in recovery mode and only in a root shell. lshw gives "display unclaimed"
[11:16] <drewjo> aantoon, try 14.04.1
[11:16] <ObrienDave> drewjo, i already went there and got shot down LOL
[11:17] <drewjo> ?
[11:17] <aantoon> drewja0 it is a old dell desktop, what makes you think 14.04 will work
[11:17] <drewjo> linux kernel never drops support
[11:17] <ObrienDave> aantoon, what makes you think it will NOT work?
[11:17] <drewjo> it's backwards compatible
[11:17] <drewjo> why on earth would they remove a kernel driver?
[11:18] <drewjo> I'm compiling a kernel and it's taking 10 years
[11:18] <tarelerulz> I'm using Windows and I wanted to  use my  sd card like a live cd / install cd .  How would I do that
[11:18] <drewjo> !liveusb > tarelerulz
[11:19] <aantoon> ObrienDave because i tried debian on it and mint and now 12,04 and all give "display unclaimed" so...
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> tarelerulz  better ask in ##windows how windows works
[11:19] <Gatis> Can you tell me please, how can i remove 2nd panel in Gnome-2?
[11:19] <Gatis> The bottom panel
[11:20] <drewjo> gnome tweaking
[11:20] <ObrienDave> right click, properties, remove panel 2
[11:20] <frib> anyone know how i can compile this? http://blog.sacaluta.com/2007/08/gtk-system-tray-icon-example.html
[11:21] <aantoon> OrbienDave drewjo beside do you say to all people who have problems "try 14.04?"
[11:26] <Deaf_Mule> aantoon, it helps when your up to date, as not all software gets pushed down the release tree if you know what I mean
[11:28] <aantoon> Deaf_Mule yes for new hardware and bleeding edge software but my problem has nothing to do with that, i'm sure it is someting stupid in the bios or something, no need for bleeding edge tech
[11:28] <Laurenceb_> https://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458
[11:31] <tarelerulz> That tells me how to make  the  live cd on sd card from Ubuntu.   Is there way to make it from Windows 7
[11:32] <soman> xubuntu 14.04 ntfs partition was mounted as /xxx1 and then I renamed in fstab to /xxx2. Now I have /xxx1 and /xxx2 in my root. How to remove unused /xxx1?
[11:32] <aantoon> Why is recovery shell read only??? i mean thats the point being root and not able to write??
[11:33] <Gatis> Please tell me how to remove bottom panel from Gnome 2
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  that is gnome, it just *looks* like gnome2
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  that is gnome3, it just *looks* like gnome2
[11:34] <Gatis> ok
[11:34] <Gatis> I want to remove bottom panel and put there cairo-dock :)
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  logout, switch to cairo, login
[11:36] <Gatis> MonkeyDust, i want Gnome top panel + Cairo dock :)
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  feel free to create a new distro then
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  or find a distro that has this combination
[11:37] <Gatis> no
[11:37] <Gatis> I just want to remove bottom panel of Gnome fallback
[11:38] <Fr0Zn_> MonkeyDust: hey you are always there
[11:39] <Gatis> MonkeyDust, ok i found.. I can do that trough dconf-editor
[11:39] <sergio__> Hello
[11:41] <Fr0Zn_> sergio__: hello
[11:41] <guraX> hola
[11:42] <Fr0Zn_> guraX: hola
[11:42] <wdwhn> Hi!
[11:42] <frib> MonkeyDust, i was able to get a basic gtk systray icon program working in c
[11:42] <frib> MonkeyDust, now i will try to couple it with acpi to have it display battery status
[11:42] <wdwhn> It seems that notifications don't show in Xubuntu
[11:42] <wdwhn> I got ubuntu
[11:42] <wdwhn> Then got xubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <wdwhn> The network manager is accessible via adding a unity applet to the bar
[11:43] <wdwhn> HOwever this crashes whenever I go out of the desktop
[11:44] <sergio__> I got Ubuntu 14.04 and I enjoyed it
[11:44] <sergio__> very stable
[11:44] <Fr0Zn_> sergio__: yes it is
[11:45] <sergio__> Fr0zen: what your OS?
[11:45] <momomo> hello
[11:45] <sergio__> hi momomo
[11:46] <Fr0Zn_> sergio__: use lot of OS, but am in OS X 10.9.4
[11:46] <momomo> sergio__, I am loggedin to the ##java channel but I cant send messages there, why I tried here ... any idea as to why?
[11:46] <bcvery> !register | momomo
[11:47] <bcvery> momomo, Likely to be restricted to registered nicks
[11:48] <momomo> I am registered and logged in, it is the same username as this one ... perhaps the channel has a limitation?
[11:48] <Gatis> Yey
[11:48] <Fr0Zn_> momomo: use /msg NickServ register password email
[11:48] <Gatis> it worked Gnome-Panel + Cairo-Dock = awesome
[11:49] <bcvery> momomo, Perhaps, but this is not an Ubuntu issue.
[11:49] <sergio__> what's the ubuntu terminal command to check system stability?
[11:49] <Munt> hey folks I was wondering if anyone knows how to listen for bluetooth serial data via comand line ?       i can send using echo somechars > /BTDEVICE       but i’d like to be ableto receive data too
[11:49] <Munt> sergio__      uptime ?
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> momomo  better ask in the freenode channel
[11:51] <momomo> bcvery, i know, thanks ... i will try the freenode channel... it seems as if they might have blocked tor users
[11:51] <sergio__> what DDoS means?
[11:52] <bcvery> sergio__, Distributed Denial of Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack)
[11:52] <Munt> It means sending lots of data maliciously to hinder a network location ?
[11:52] <Gatis> aah
[11:53] <sergio__> thanks
[11:53] <ObrienDave> momomo, using TOR without using SASL will get you banned
[11:53] <ObrienDave> momomo, i know, it happened to me LOL
[11:53] <sergio__> is TOR 100% safe of trakking?
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> sergio__  nothing's 100% safe
[11:54] <ObrienDave> sergio__, NOTHING is 100% safe
[11:54] <Fr0Zn_> sergio__: not
[11:54] <momomo> I think I am using SASL ... what is SASL anyway? will that hide the fact that you are using tor ... because right now my nickname info reveals tor usage
[11:54] <momomo> ObrienDave, bad luck :p
[11:54] <cursera> hi. sometimes my computer logs out.      last command shows some lines with this     reboot   system boot  3.2.0-67-generic Sun Aug 10 12:05 - 16:10 (2+04:04)
[11:54] <ObrienDave> momomo, yes, you're using SASL
[11:55] <sergio__> what do all think about 4chan?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> cursera  3.2 ... that's ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:55] <anon293> sergio__ what about 4chan?
[11:55] <cursera> MonkeyDust,  yes
[11:55] <iptable> sergio__, I prefer channels 1 and 2
[11:55] <Gatis> How to reset Gnome panel defaults? I messed up mistakenly
[11:56] <anon293> Gatis delete the appropriate (most likely hidden) folders in your /home dir
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> cursera  does your pc heat up rapidly, making it logout?
[11:56] <sergio__> Gratis is in the setting option
[11:57] <Gatis> how can i see hidden folders and files in terminal?
[11:57] <anon293> ls -all
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  ls -a
[11:57] <sergio__> ls -a
[11:57] <cursera> MonkeyDust,    could be. is there a  way to find out way it loged out?
[11:57] <sergio__> is ubuntu virus free?
[11:57] <Fr0Zn_> sergio__: not
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !av  sergio__
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !av
[11:58] <sergio__> is linux Distros better then Windows?
[11:58] <Gatis> i don't knwo which files refer to Gnome2 panel
[11:58] <Gatis> Gnome fallback panel
[11:58] <Fr0Zn_> sergio__: haha thats personal opinion
[11:58] <cursera> MonkeyDust, i dont discard the possibility of pc temperature or power  supply issues
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> sergio__  it's better if you like it more
[11:59] <Gatis> I edited Gnome trough dconf-editor and mistakenly deleted panel configuration
[11:59] <Munt> I’d imagine it’s only as virus free as your own common sense allows.    executing code from untrustworthy sources would surely still have the potential for harm ?
[11:59] <anon293> Munt, yeah. I've been using Windows for many years without ever using an AV. Never had a virus. It's all about the user.
[11:59] <anon293> So technically speaking the victim of a virus isn't exactly a 'victim'. It all comes from not knowing what you're doing.
[11:59] <Fr0Zn_> Munt: that's true
[12:00] <sergio__> I agree
[12:00] <Munt> anon293 :  you could get unlucky with a security flaw in your web browser or email client no ?      some 0-day exploit that allows code to be run.    I’d feel naked without an AV on windows
[12:00] <sergio__> how can one slow fan spin?
[12:01] <anon293> Munt: Good point. I guess the monthly scan and checking the system (Regedit, Autostart folder) and it shouldn't be something to worry about much. As long as your normal User doesn't have Admin privileges the system should be fairly save too.
[12:02] <Gatis> I edited Gnome panel trough dconf-editor and mistakenly deleted panel configuration. Please tell me how to reset to defaults, plaesE?
[12:02] <Munt> It’s a mean old world out there on the internets :p
[12:02] <Fr0Zn_> Munt: it's only user usage. I don't feel naked without AV if you know what you run. I check too Regedit monthly and MBR
[12:03] <Fr0Zn_> anon293: but what about UAC in windows?
[12:03] <anon293> Gatis: Open a terminal in your home dir and execute the following commands:
[12:03] <anon293> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[12:03] <guraX> What is the best reference for linux commands?
[12:03] <anon293> Fr0Zn_ How'd you mean?
[12:03] <sergio__> Gratis go to the synactic packet tool and reinstall it
[12:03] <Munt> Fr0Zn:   I always assumed there was some far corner of registry a virus could staple itself to a dll or the like and get execution rights
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> guraX  'best' depends on how skilled you are
[12:03] <Gatis> Anom01y, ok
[12:03] <Gatis> anon293, ok
[12:03] <Vladimir_> I don't get it, I setup tftp server but it says ?invalid command when typing open localhost
[12:03] <guraX> oh I'm a beginner
[12:03] <guite_> hi everyone, I am in trouble with my brand new laptop asus X550L: the touchpad is not recognized. I tried many method like recompiling the driver or using dkms with the elantech drivers, but there is always an error somewhere… did anyone faced (and solved) this issue so that I fix the problem ?
[12:04] <anon293> Gatis: And don't forget to restart the session afterwards
[12:04] <Munt> sergio__ :  Im not sure … but http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[12:04] <Gatis> ok
[12:04] <Fr0Zn_> Munt: yes it's true get privileges by himself
[12:04] <sergio__> Thanks Munt!
[12:04] <Munt> no problem
[12:04] <Fr0Zn_> anon293: i mean new dual account in windows, normal user and admin togheter in one account
[12:05] <cursera> guraX,  hey edx.org is ofering  a free course on linux (beginner) from the linux foundation- moc type course self paced
[12:05] <anon293> Fr0Zn_ Then yes. The UAC prompt could be bypassed and administrator permissions to the system could be achieved. Which is why it isn't recommendable to run an Administrator account as your daily usage one.
[12:05] <guraX> thanks cursera I'll check that
[12:06] <Munt> Sometimes I cant even get windows software to run without disabling UAC     :s
[12:06] <Gatis> anon293, doesn't work
[12:07] <Fr0Zn_> anon293: Yes, and there are some ways that a malware can riseup privil by himself using process like windows use by default in UAC
[12:07] <Fr0Zn_> Munt: there are some ways to do it
[12:07] <ikonia> how does this windows/UAC stuff fit into the ubuntu channel ?
[12:07] <anon293> Fr0Zn_ Surely not as a user without SYSTEM privileges? A normal user can't inject into processes without the appropriate privileges.
[12:07] <Fr0Zn_> ikonia: yea.
[12:08] <anon293> Gatis: Maybe create a new account and see if the error persists? If not, move all your stuff to the new one.
[12:08] <ikonia> Fr0Zn_: "how does" - "yes" is not a valid question
[12:08] <anon293> lol
[12:08] <Munt> ikonia :   natural flow of conversation from talking about viruses :p
[12:08] <ikonia> Munt: right, so it's probably not really meant for this channel
[12:08] <ikonia> there are lots of offtopic channels or private chats for that sort of thing please.
[12:09] <Munt> ikonia :  I have nothing invested in talking about windows.   if it’s not for this room thats fine
[12:09] <alexamae> anyone here please help me what ubuntu software can i play windows game?
[12:09] <ikonia> Munt: super, thanks
[12:09] <ikonia> alexamae: to be honest, my personal view is "don't"
[12:09] <anon293> alexamae Look for PlayOnLinux
[12:09] <ikonia> alexamae: there is no stable good solution, the options are a moving target and can work for one day, break the next
[12:09] <Gatis> Yes i found solution! This worked perfectly: dconf reset -f /org/gnome/gnome-panel/
[12:09] <ikonia> alexamae: if you want to play windows games, install windows
[12:10] <Vladimir_> does tftp use tcp to be able to accept files?
[12:10] <Gatis> If you mess up Gnome panel use this: "dconf reset -f /org/gnome/gnome-panel/"
[12:10] <anon293> Gatis Happy you could solve it.
[12:10] <ikonia> Vladimir_: it's trvial - it's udp
[12:10] <Vladimir_> ikonia: I don't know what's wrong, can get it to work
[12:10] <Munt> alexamae :   Have you tried Virtual Machines, Wine and things of that nature ?
[12:10] <Vladimir_> ikonia: I edited the xinetd.d file
[12:10] <alexamae> Munt, not yet, ok i try
[12:11] <rudra101> dfd
[12:11] <anon293> Munt; gaming on virtual machines? Without using vga-passthrough this seems severely inefficient.
[12:11] <Fr0Zn_> alexamae: try Wine, but to play games you will have bad performance
[12:11] <Munt> anon293 :   if its an old game and he REALLY doesnt want to have a windows partition …. /shrug
[12:12] <anon293> Munt depending on how old it is he could even consider DOSBox.
[12:12] <Munt> hehe
[12:12] <alexamae> Fr0Zn_, ah... ok
[12:12] <Munt> true story
[12:13] <ls007> i love counter strike\
[12:13] <anon293> ls007 Counter Strike Source is even natively supported on Steam :)
[12:13] <ls007> but i am unable to install it \
[12:14] <anon293> How so?
[12:14] <ls007> bad internet connection
[12:14] <alexamae> anon293, YAH.. i hear about this steam is this ok with ubuntu?
[12:14] <ls007> only able to use chat
[12:14] <anon293> ls007: That sucks.
[12:15] <Munt> yeah … I thought the new steam box was bringing in a load of games for linux ?
[12:15] <anon293> alexamae: Well there is an official Linux version of Steam, but it has very poor game support as of now. You won't have many titles available.
[12:15] <ls007> when will it support need for speed ???
[12:15] <anon293> I do hope Valve will make a difference in the gaming scene and motivate more producers and especially the big companies to move to OpenGL.
[12:16] <alexamae> anon293, thanks anyway..
[12:16] <anon293> The only reason I still have a Windows installation are games.
[12:16] <Munt> Im a bit naive on the subject but it seems like GFX card manufacturers need to get on the case as well for OpenGL.     MacOSX ports of 3D games always made me cry a little on the inside
[12:17] <k1l_> ls007: best is to ask the game publishers to support native linux. there is quite less what the ubuntu community can do about that
[12:17] <ikonia> this really isn't an ubuntu discussion
[12:17] <gruwibble> I'm getting an error when I try to install updates and I can't solve it in terminal
[12:17] <anon293> Yeah, given there is NO support from most companies it is quite extraordinary how well some games run on Linux. Like, seriously.
[12:17] <ikonia> gruwibble: explain the error please.
[12:18] <thecha> is there an ubuntu version of microsoft one note?
[12:18] <gruwibble> when I run sudo apt-get install -f, I get dpkg was interrupted
[12:18] <gruwibble> but when I run sudo dpkg --configure -a, I get a read-only error
[12:19] <ikonia> gruwibble: pastebin the full errors please.
[12:19] <gruwibble> one moment
[12:19] <cfhowlett> thecha, nope.  but evernote runs perfectly in wine
[12:19] <anon293> Have you restarted yet gruwibble?
[12:19] <gruwibble> yes.
[12:20] <Munt> thecha : http://nevernote.sourceforge.net/          never tried it but its an opensource evernote client
[12:20] <Gatis> Tell how to run application as service trough terminal?
[12:20] <ikonia> Gatis: it will depend on the application
[12:20] <ikonia> Gatis: and I'm not clear what you mean by "as a service"
[12:20] <Gatis> ikonia, i want to run gnome-panel without keeping terminal open
[12:21] <k1l_> Gatis: just use "alt+f2" for that if that is just one time now
[12:21] <ikonia> Gatis: there should be a startup application in unity
[12:21] <hateball> Gatis: "command &" will detach it from the terminal
[12:22] <vak> hi all
[12:23] <Gatis> I tried: gnome-panel & but whenever i quit terminal gnome-panel closes
[12:24] <eeee> Gatis: quit using exit
[12:24] <eeee> not the button
[12:24] <Gatis> ALT+F2 doesn't work in cairo-dock session
[12:24] <hateball> ^
[12:24] <eeee> btw there is a better way around this..
[12:24] <hateball> what eeee said
[12:24] <Gatis> eeee, aaah
[12:24] <vak> does ad-hoc wifi connection between two notebooks work at all in ubuntu 14.04?..
[12:24] <Gatis> i costumized nice DE :)
[12:24] <Gatis> ill show screen
[12:24] <eeee> Gatis: add it to the startup apps, or maybe add it to ~/.bashrc , so it runs every time
[12:24] <ikonia> Gatis: don't need to see it
[12:25] <Gatis> eeee, ok
[12:25] <Gatis> later
[12:25] <ikonia> Gatis: the startup apps would be the better way to go
[12:25] <Munt> hateball : if you use & to detach a process from the terminal but sudo it … will it be run with sudo every time its used until the process is closed ?
[12:25] <Gatis> ikonia, im testing
[12:25] <vak> if i create a hotspot on one Ubuntu 14.04 notebook, then connection from other Ubuntu 14.04 never succeeds.
[12:25] <eeee> yeah startup apps is better
[12:25] <eeee> ~/.bashrc would run every time you opened a shell
[12:25] <eeee> nevermind
[12:25] <vak> according to logs it breaks on stage 4 of connection workflow:  device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable')
[12:25] <xar_> can someone help me on this, please ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/516867/how-to-display-the-skype-indicator-on-the-status-top-bar?noredirect=1#comment701463_516867
[12:25] <hateball> Munt: As long as the process runs, it'll be owned by whoever started it. If that's what you're asking
[12:26] <gruwibble> ikonia: log http://pastebin.com/7JsZdkt0
[12:26] <vak> for me it looks like ad-hoc connection on Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't work at all
[12:26] <ikonia> gruwibble: ok, so you are missing a directory and it appears your file system has dropped into read only move
[12:26] <ikonia> mode
[12:27] <Munt> hateball … at the moment I’m having to type sudo echo TEXT > /dev/tty. ….              everytime i  want to send data on a serial connection.    I’m hoping adding & at the end will mean everytime echo is used from the initial time onwards that it will be run with sudo
[12:27] <eeee> Munt: so
[12:27] <eeee> *no
[12:27] <hateball> Munt: Well no.
[12:27] <gruwibble> ok.
[12:27] <Munt> ahh ok
[12:28] <eeee> if you dont want to type sudo echo you could use a root shell
[12:28] <hateball> Munt: Since when you've done "sudo echo" and it exits, well then then the process is gone
[12:28] <gruwibble> well, I don't want to risk corrupting the disk by fsck, so I'm not sure how to proceed
[12:29] <Munt> Thanks folks !    Much appreciated :)
[12:29] <hateball> Or one could set appropriate permissions for the user on the device
[12:29] <drewjo> my router a sh*t
[12:29] <Munt> can i specifically set the permissions for echo ?
[12:30] <eeee> Munt: you'd still have to use sudo, i think, just wouldn
[12:30] <ikonia> sounds like you're making a problem
[12:30] <eeee> sorry, just wouldn't have to type the password
[12:30] <eeee> unless you used an alias, but this is getting silly
[12:30] <Munt> that’s interesting
[12:30] <gruwibble> so it's a hardware problem?
[12:30] <eeee> i'm pretty sure there's a better way i guess
[12:30] <aantoon> problem solved, installed debian, thanks for nothing
[12:31] <drewjo> ban aantoon
[12:31] <Munt> at the moment i make a c++ program that is sudo’d once then it handles the echo commands without needing verification everytime
[12:32] <eeee> cool
[12:32] <Munt> im currently trying to find a command that allows my c++ program to listen and recieve characters via serial
[12:32] <eeee> Munt: yeah you could either have it with sid bit, and root user, or you could use echo <pass> | sudo -S <command> , if you didn't want to modify the sudoers file
[12:32] <Gatis> How to make screenshot? :)
[12:33] <Ironwave> Good day fair people.
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  hit PrtScr
[12:33] <eeee> Gatis: printscreen, shutter is a really nice program for taking screenshots though
[12:33] <Munt> eeee: Thanks !
[12:33] <ikonia> Gatis: please don't post screen shots of your desktop in this channel
[12:34] <Gatis> Why not?
[12:34] <ikonia> Gatis: it has nothing to do with this channel
[12:34] <ikonia> Gatis: unless there is a reason we need to see your desktop
[12:34] <drewjo> ikonia is an OP, don't argur
[12:34] <Gatis> I want to show how i configure ubuntu
[12:34] <ikonia> Gatis: we don't need to know
[12:34] <Gatis> What's bad in it?
[12:34] <Ironwave> I want to make a server on ubunto. I want to keep the os intackt to use at other wise.  Can someone direct me to a tutorial for what I want to acomplish please?
[12:35] <ikonia> Gatis: this is a support channel.
[12:35] <Gatis> ikonia, so?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !server | Ironwave,
[12:35] <drewjo> nearly finished compiling linux 3.17-rc2
[12:35] <ikonia> Gatis: so your screen shot is nothing to do with support
[12:35] <Gatis> ikonia, what harm does it ?
[12:36] <ikonia> Gatis: none - but it's not something we want, as if you do it, everyone can do it
[12:36] <Ironwave> :cfho
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Gatis, !ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for sharing your screen - if anyone is interested.  let's end the silly argument now..
[12:36] <Gatis> yeah but what bad does it/
[12:36] <Ironwave> :cfhowlett Thanks, Ill check it out
[12:36] <ikonia> Gatis: enough, please don't do it, clear.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> Ironwave, happy2help
[12:36] <Gatis> ikonia, no it's not clear
[12:36] <lego_> Gatis: dont worry they havnt had their valium
[12:36]  * Munt is thankful for the support recieved and gratefuly leaves the room until another linux related issue troubles his mind.
[12:36] <Gatis> I just wanted to share my experience with ubuntu
[12:36] <Gatis> :/
[12:36] <ikonia> Gatis: you're wellcome to pm me if you have any concerns but we are spamming the channel now.
[12:36] <Gatis> ikonia, im not spamming
[12:37] <lego_> hey how do i recover my encrypted home drive?  my system wont boot
[12:37] <ikonia> lego_: you'll need to manually decrypt it
[12:37] <ikonia> lego_: fix any issues from there
[12:37] <ikonia> lego_: whats the error you get
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Gatis, it is.  send your screenshot to the ubuntu forums.  this is not the place for it.
[12:37] <iptable> lego_, got the password? in that case you can mount it with ecryptfs
[12:37] <lego_> im reasonably technical and am comfortable following a procedure if someone will linke me one
[12:37] <Gatis> ikonia, let me share my pic of my desktop to show new ubuntu users how you can customize it.
[12:37] <Gatis> IM new too
[12:37] <ikonia> Gatis: no more discussion please.
[12:37] <ikonia> Gatis: no
[12:37] <lego_> iptable: ecryptfs , cool, is that the same as my account passwd?
[12:38] <Gatis> What's bad in it?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> lego_  enter the encryption key
[12:38] <lego_> MonkeyDust: is that the same as my account passwd?
[12:39] <iceroot> lego_: the encrpytion key is not a password but normally the key is just protected with your user-password. depends which solution you are using exactly. Your password would just unlook the key but the key itself is not your password
[12:39] <cfhowlett> lego_, your encryption passphrase should not be the same as your login password.
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> lego_  you got the instruction to print it and keep it somewhere safe
[12:39] <lego_> MonkeyDust: dude that is freaking hilarious
[12:39] <iptable> lego_, yes. it is encrypted using your account password
[12:39] <lego_> cfhowlett: , iceroot you know where the key is stored on this system?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> lego_, nope but it is not in readable form ... "encryption" = security.
[12:40] <iptable> lego_, or yes, actually, the key is protected by the password and key is used to encrypt your home dir.
[12:40] <iptable> lego_, have you got the key?
[12:40] <lego_> iptable: thx but where on my system do i look for the key?
[12:41] <iceroot> lego_: the key is normally encrypted with your user-password (if you are using the ubuntu home encryption and not a full disc encryption)
[12:41] <lego_> iceroot: yeah but where on my system do i look for the key?
[12:41] <iceroot> lego_: sorry dont know
[12:41] <lego_> iceroot: cool ill try to look that up
[12:41] <lego_> lol
[12:42] <iceroot> lego_: /home/user/ should be the location (there is only the key) if it is entered successful your home will be mounted into /home/user/.private
[12:42] <iptable> lego_, I believe in /home/user/Private you have the encrypted contents, whereas in /home/user/.ecryptfs (or similar, ls -la /home/user) you will find the key
[12:42] <iptable> .private, not Private
[12:42] <iceroot> lego_: yeah, iptable is right
[12:42] <lego_> iptable: dude that is pimp, let me check
[12:44] <iptable> pimp?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !pimp
[12:44] <eeee> lol
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !info pimp
[12:44] <iptable> interesting
[12:45] <lego_> ok, i am going to chroot first, that will prolly make my life easier.
[12:45] <drewjo> I'm going to rice the f*** out of ubuntu
[12:46] <drewjo> first thing is first, kernel 3.17-rc2
[12:46] <iptable> rice?
[12:46] <eeee> iptable: car reference
[12:46] <iptable> damn, my dictionaty seems lacking. pimp, rice...
[12:46] <iptable> eeee, oh, as in pimp my ride kind of thing?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> iptable, couldn't find the man pages for either
[12:47] <drewjo> you know ricers?
[12:47] <iptable> nope, still not with you
[12:47] <drewjo> people who put crap on their cars
[12:47] <iptable> uhm, like rice?
[12:47] <drewjo> people who get stupid things for their cars
[12:48] <TJ-> square wheels?
[12:48] <iptable> oh
[12:48] <cfhowlett> obviously far, far off-topic.  let's get back to ubuntu, please.
[12:48] <eeee> iptable: yeah, like riced out japanese pieces of junk
[12:48] <eeee> iptable: you know, a civic with a 4" exhaust and 100hp
[12:48] <iptable> in UK we call them boy-racer
[12:48] <matthew_||> hi there
[12:48] <drewjo> I want to boy-race ubuntu
[12:48] <iptable> TJ-, spare wheels are aparently overrated. no new cars in UK come with a spare
[12:49] <TJ-> Any gnupg gurus with insights into MD signatures?
[12:49] <eeee> iptable: no, see rice pertains to jap cars only, and it means you do something unrelated to performance,
[12:49] <lego_> drewjo: dude you need to compile yr own kernel bro
[12:49] <drewjo> I am
[12:49] <drewjo> mainline
[12:49] <lego_> drewjo: stock kernels are for lamers
[12:49] <drewjo> 3.17-rc2
[12:49] <lego_> sweet
[12:49] <sansone> ciao
[12:49] <cfhowlett> eeeee     "jap" ?  end your racist junk here and now
[12:49] <sansone> !lista
[12:49] <eeee> iptable: like.... using wubi would be the equivalent of ricing out a car
[12:49] <sansone> ok
[12:49] <iptable> and yes, eeee they annoy the hell out of me. some very old ford modded to look almost like a formula one was enticing me to race the other day... well, I got a 160bhp 7-seater familywagon and he lost to it... that says it all for them people
[12:50] <eeee> iptable: yeah but nothing against modifying a car though, if it's done correctly..
[12:50] <matthew_||> @matthew_|| ds
[12:50] <iptable> well, if it's done to serve an actual purpose, yes.
[12:50] <drewjo> you can change the desktop environment of ubuntu
[12:50] <drewjo> I want to get a window manager instead
[12:51] <iptable> but if the purpose is to make the exhaust wake me up middle of the night on their 90bhp ford, they can go and die now.
[12:51] <drewjo> !windowmanager
[12:51] <iptable> drewjo, apt-get install it
[12:51] <lego_> iptable: using apt is inferior to compiling from source
[12:51] <sysop2> oh I have a user I created on my desktop that appears every morning shortly before 8am in my auth logs. I even installed auditd and it didnt tell me anything more.  can anyone give me an idea to find out what is causing this? and the weird thing is its not at the same time everyday, its always shortly before 8am, but never exactly at the same time.  so it doesnt sound like a cron job.  Here is the fun part. I had that user setup for ssh
[12:51] <sysop2>  and ssh port forwarded to the box, well when I noticed this happening I portfordwarded it to another box yet I still see these logins every morning.
[12:52] <sysop2> sorry running kubuntu 13.10
[12:52] <iptable> lego_, aptitude then
[12:52] <cfhowlett> sysop2, 13.10 has reached end of life - no more security updates and no more support.  update.
[12:52] <iptable> lego_, apt-get source
[12:53] <lego_> iptable: kk
[12:53] <iceroot> sysop2: /var/log/auth.log should show you where the user is comming from and what service he is trying to use
[12:53] <sysop2> iceroot, not in this case, it shows no ip likes its coming from the box itself. and the audit log didnt reveal much more.
[12:54] <the_drow> How do I enable the jit when installing libpcre3?
[12:54] <eeee> cfhowlett: just saw your comment, sorry if i'm offending anyone, i'm used to car forums, and they are called jap tuner cars, nothing racist about it, i just think some japanese cars shouldn't be modified, i'll take a supra any day.. and put a japanese flag on it too :D
[12:54] <iceroot> sysop2: and no service?
[12:54] <ikonia> the_drow: the jit ?
[12:54] <the_drow> ikonia: https://redmine.openinfosecfoundation.org/projects/suricata/wiki/Installation_from_GIT_with_PCRE-sljit
[12:54] <cfhowlett> eeee, ... ... ... okay
[12:54] <sysop2> hold on making a pastie
[12:55] <ikonia> the_drow: that document tells you the exact commands
[12:55] <the_drow> ikonia: pcre has a jit that you can enable which ubuntu supports
[12:55] <the_drow> ikonia: I don't want to compile from source.
[12:55] <ikonia> the_drow: what is not clear ?
[12:55] <ikonia> the_drow: then you can't enable it
[12:55] <ikonia> the_drow: it's a compile time option
[12:55] <the_drow> I'm wondering if there is an envvar I can use with apt-get
[12:56] <ikonia> the_drow: if it's not set at build time - you can't enable it
[12:56] <iptable> the_drow, no, you can apt-get source and compile with that option yourself
[12:56] <lego_> iptable: thx bro.  hey how do you set the locale on a system your chrooting ?
[12:56] <ubuntu> hi
[12:56] <lego_> urgh, how do i set the environment?
[12:56] <iptable> lego_, one sec, I got the perfect line for it
[12:56] <lego_> kk
[12:57] <Guest96792> any one from ghaziabad
[12:57] <Guest96792> hello
[12:57] <Guest96792> hello
[12:57] <compdoc> never heard of ghaziabad
[12:57] <Guest96792> hi
[12:57] <lego_> is that in pakistan?
[12:57] <Guest96792> india
[12:57] <sysop2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8168774/
[12:58] <cfhowlett> Guest96792, what is your ubuntu question
[12:58] <iptable> lego_, 1. type in bash 2. make sure you have .bashrc present in home to have correct environment, 3. to just set locale ignore previous 2 poitns, use this: update-locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LANGUAGE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" LC_CTYPE="C"
[12:58] <Guest96792> hello
[12:58] <sysop2> iceroot,  does that help? I cant see anything in there, thats two days see the similar time.
[12:58] <Guest96792> hello
[12:58] <iptable> lego_, you may need this before: apt-get --force-yes -y install language-pack-en ; locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[12:59] <lego_> iptable: thx ill do that
[13:00] <the_drow> ikonia: It seems that the jit is not supported yet on Ubuntu 14.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcre3/+bug/1270862
[13:03] <comradestalin> i installed emacs goodies ( sudo apt-get install emacs-goodies-el ). it installed, although i kept seeing an error ( ERROR: emacs-goodies-el is broken - called emacs-package-install as a new-style add-on, but has no compat file. ) i'm using ubuntu
[13:03] <lego_> iptable: thanks that appears to work, next i get Inserted auth tok with sig into the user session keyring
[13:03] <lego_> and then error - no such device
[13:03] <itcrashed> Hi! One of my disks seems to have crashed. Its a 3TB disk but lshw -C disk only reports a size of 4000MB.
[13:04] <comradestalin> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and GNU Emacs 24.3.1
[13:04] <ikonia> itcrashed: what does the partitions show
[13:04] <itcrashed> sfdisk just gives me input/output error
[13:04] <itcrashed> Any ideas how to correct?
[13:04] <ikonia> itcrashed: run parted against it (or gparte if you like a gui)
[13:05] <comradestalin> should i remove emacs-goodies-el because of the errors?
[13:05] <ikonia> comradestalin: if it's causing you a problem, remove it
[13:06] <itcrashed> If I run the command "gparted" it just gives me "cannot open display"
[13:06] <comradestalin> ikonia: the error was during the install, i haven't tried to use it
[13:06] <ikonia> comradestalin: so apply logic then, look at the error and make a decision
[13:07] <hualet_deepin> comradestalin: what does emacs-goodies-el contains?
[13:07] <Blenda> Deaf_Mule Gatis: sorry i was away, roger that
[13:08] <sergio> Hi Hackers!
[13:09] <Blenda> hi victim :)
[13:11] <ikonia> itcrashed: do you  have X11 (a deskto running)
[13:11] <comradestalin> removed the package, i think it hasn't been updated for emacs 24*
[13:11] <llllllll> hi
[13:12] <itcrashed> ikonia: yeah I tried parted instead. It just gives me (translation might not be exact) "unknown disk label"
[13:12] <lego_> hey i just had a *crazy* idea
[13:12] <lego_> since i can chroot into the system, why dont i re-install the initramfs or whatever?
[13:12] <lego_> no?
[13:12] <ikonia> itcrashed: do you have a desktop running though ?
[13:13] <llllllll> do you have a desktop running though ?
[13:13] <itcrashed> ikonia: no, only a ssh session
[13:13] <ikonia> itcrashed: ok,
[13:14] <llllllll> puppy
[13:14] <ikonia> llllllll: what do you need help with ?
[13:15] <ThePadawan> i may be derping but write and if in bash is probably just
[13:15] <ThePadawan> if [ "$line" == "sometext" ]; then
[13:15] <ThePadawan>       echo "found it"
[13:15] <ThePadawan> fi
[13:15] <itcrashed> ikonia: If i try mount -a it says that the Id does not exist. The problem seems to have occured while the machine was up and running. I tried rebooting, but same problem persists
[13:15] <ikonia> itcrashed: if there is no disk label or partitions on the disk it won't mount
[13:15] <ikonia> itcrashed: you need to check the partions exist with parted,
[13:15] <ikonia> itcrashed: that is the first thing
[13:16] <itcrashed> ikonia: I tried parted's "list" option, it just gives me unknown label /dev/sdd
[13:16] <ikonia> itcrashed: that doesn't sound positive
[13:16] <ikonia> itcrashed: use "print"
[13:17] <itcrashed> ikonia: print gives the same error. No additional information.
[13:17] <Blenda> itcrashed : what if you replace your name with "itworx" first? :p
[13:18] <ikonia> itcrashed: that sounds like the disk maybe corrupted
[13:18] <ikonia> itcrashed: what's happened to the machine
[13:18] <itcrashed> ikonia: Nothing to my knowledge. I was away on vacation, it must have broke down during me vacancy. I discovered something was wring when I tried to SFTP into the machine
[13:19] <frezix> hi, I was transferring a directory using rsync to a local partition using this command - "rsync -a --progress Videos /media/Windows7_OS/film/" and I suddenly interrupted using Ctrl+C. Now according to the rsync man page, when I resume it should just copy all the files it was copying when it was interrupted. In my case however it skips those files, even when I add the -P (--partial --progress) flag.
[13:20] <frezix> so is this normal rsync behavior?
[13:21] <ikonia> frezix: it picks up where it left off
[13:21] <itcrashed> ikonia: can I run gparted through Xming?
[13:22] <ikonia> itcrashed: why would you that ?
[13:22] <iptable> frezix, rsync syncs. it will pick up where toyu interrupted and continue. that's per design. it will not start from sratch as file are there already
[13:22] <ikonia> itcrashed: you already have the info from parted
[13:22] <rumpel> hi there. I have ubuntu 12.04. Is skype still supported for linux? Seems to be that I have to upgrade but I can't find any linux client on their website.
[13:22] <itcrashed> ikonia: Ah allright then
[13:22] <iptable> rumpel, yes. on skype website you can download skype for linux
[13:23] <hualet_deepin> rumpel: its definately there
[13:23] <k1l_> !skype | rumpel
[13:23] <hualet_deepin> on their site
[13:23] <itcrashed> ikonia: damn it. Ironic my back up drive is the one crashing...
[13:23] <ikonia> itcrashed: whaht happened to the machine/disk
[13:23] <iptable> rumpel, following the big "get skype" button on their website homepage and choosing linux ubuntu 64bit form the list got me that: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64
[13:24] <pin> hi
[13:24] <TimeVirus> fred
[13:24] <frezix> iptable: hmm, then that means it would also copy the interrupted file so that the interrupted file will end up on the destination right? In my case it does not. Very strange.
[13:24] <res0000> Question: I need to rename a single file in /usr/share/backgrounds. In terminal, after "sudo -i" and entering password, I enter "mv /usr/share/backgrounds/file.png  /usr/share/backgrounds/newname.png", but the mv command only seems to change the prompt to just ">". It seems to be waiting for some sort of input, but what?
[13:24] <pin> hi
[13:24] <iptable> rumpel, when you dpkg -i to install it will say error on dependencies. you then apt-get -f install. this will resolve dependencies and finish installing skype.
[13:24] <pin> who in here use backbox linux
[13:24] <itcrashed> ikonia: I don't know. I havent been home for 2 weeks. I only discovered the input/output error a few days ago. The drive worked fine when I left 3 weeks ago
[13:24] <k1l_> pin: its only ubuntu supported here
[13:24] <ikonia> pin: no-one
[13:24] <ikonia> pin: this channel is for ubuntu, backbox has it's own channel on a different network
[13:24] <rumpel> iptable, hualet_deepin   there is no mention of any skype. It refers me directly to http://skype.gmw.cn an there is no linux client anywhere. Just windows, mac, android, ...
[13:24] <iptable> frezix, the interrupted file will be continued (or restarted, depending on process)
[13:25] <pin> why? backbox is ubuntu based
[13:25] <iptable> rumpel, China?
[13:25] <iptable> rumpel, I gave you direct skype download link
[13:25] <rumpel> iptable, right.
[13:25] <k1l_> pin: no discussion needed. ask their support. not here
[13:25] <TimeVirus> they r smarter :P
[13:25] <iptable> rumpel, skype China is special...
[13:26] <TimeVirus> is there no one there?
[13:26] <iptable> rumpel, the download link I gave you doesn't work?
[13:26] <rumpel> iptable, it's not a direct link to the package... I get refered to their main page.
[13:26] <rumpel> iptable, no :(
[13:26] <iptable> rumpel, it IS a direct link to the package
[13:26] <rumpel> iptable, do you have a direct link I could use with wget maybe?
[13:26] <iptable> rumpel, but their website recognises you are from China
[13:26] <iptable> rumpel, the link I gave you with wget from UK and US DOES download the deb package
[13:26] <lego_> iptable: not reallly a safe assumption
[13:27] <iptable> rumpel, I'm guessing skype linux is not supported in China :/
[13:27] <pin> iptable, rumpel, timevirus.. where are you come from
[13:27] <ThePadawan> wondering why my branching doesn't work => http://dpaste.com/13ZFKN0
[13:27] <iptable> lego_, which one
[13:27] <lego_> iptable: that skype's software would correctly recognize his location
[13:27] <TimeVirus> USA
[13:27] <lego_> iptable: most software is still *terrible* at that
[13:27] <k1l_> pin: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only. to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:27] <iptable> lego_, not software, website. and for China it's simple, not terrible. if you come from Chinese gov firewall IPs, you are in china
[13:28] <rumpel> iptable, doesn't work.           Does anyone have a link directly onto the package? like: wget http://foo.bar/skype.deb or something like that?
[13:28] <iptable> rumpel, as I said, skype on linux in china is not supported as you legally need the version that supports monitoring of skype by china gov
[13:28] <rumpel> iptable, I guess it's some Microsoft magic :/
[13:28] <iptable> rumpel, and that doesn't exist for linux
[13:29] <iptable> rumpel, it's Microsoft being told by your government they need to release special versions for China to support monitoring
[13:29] <iptable> rumpel, someone might download it and share with you, but since I am unsure if that is legal in your country, I will not do that, sorry.
[13:29] <rumpel> iptable, thanks, that make sense.
[13:30] <iptable> rumpel, find a US/UK free proxy you can use. if your gov allows that to download skype for linux, should be ok.
[13:30]  * iptable goes for a break
[13:30] <streulma> hi when I make a backup on OnApp in my vps cloud panel, my /var/cache and /tmp are removed by a restore
[13:30] <streulma> what's the best method to not do that ?
[13:30] <rumpel> iptable, would be awesome :D
[13:31] <TimeVirus_> fred
[13:32] <rumpel> iptable, the thing is: they still offer it for all other devices (windows, apple, smartphones...)  ... so I doubt somehow that it's government related.
[13:32] <iptable> streulma, talk to your vps cloud provider
[13:32] <streulma> iptable, yes
[13:32] <cfhowlett> rumpel, ?  I installed skype from the ubuntu repos - works great in Beijing
[13:32] <iptable> rumpel, diffing skype for china and skype for rest of world (yes I have a proxy in Cn) shows that they are different versions, even though the yare multilang
[13:33] <cfhowlett> rumpel, they are indeed different versions
[13:33] <TJ-> itcrashed: have you checked the SMART info from the failed drive?
[13:33] <iptable> rumpel, also, yes, it is. Microsoft and a lot of other companies are obliged to allow Cn gov to monitor your conversations
[13:33] <iptable> rumpel, hence google got kicked out of China at some point
[13:33] <iptable> they refused
[13:33] <lego_> iptable: more accurately, google wasnt making any money in china
[13:34] <lego_> iptable: and baidu pushed them out of the market
[13:34] <hualet_deepin> iptable: that scared me :<
[13:34] <rumpel> cfhowlett, me too. But it's 12.04.   ... Maybe I don't have to upgrade. Hm.
[13:34] <lego_> iptable: they didnt ragequit china, they got routed
[13:34] <cfhowlett> rumpel, eh?  try this: apt-cache policy skype
[13:34] <iptable> no, google cn got blocked off by cn governemtn for not sharing user information
[13:34] <itcrashed> TJ-: doing this now. I had not
[13:34] <iptable> after that they quit
[13:35] <iptable> lego_, and even they tried routing via google HK for google CN at some point to fight back but that got blocked too at some point. it DID go political.
[13:35] <rumpel> cfhowlett, I don't have access to the machine right now, sorry.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> iptable, closer to what I recall.  using google in china now defaults to the Hong Kong google.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> rumpel, enable your partner repos and download 4.3.0.37 skype
[13:36] <ThePadawan> wondering why my branching doesn't work => http://dpaste.com/13ZFKN0
[13:36] <ikonia> ThePadawan: try #bash
[13:36] <rumpel> cfhowlett, I already did install skype using partner repos. I will check that, thanks.
[13:37] <itcrashed> TJ-: Smart check returns: Read SMART Data failed: scsi error aborted command
[13:37] <TimeVirus_> seems cn is no different than USA these days -  NSA
[13:38] <itcrashed> TJ-: Actually all smart tests seem to fail. But it ends with "self test/logging not supported"
[13:38] <hwilde> ThePadawan, you probably don't need quotes around "$line"    that would not substitue the variable it would compare the literal string  $line
[13:38] <Siente> Hello guys, I couldn't install ubuntu, when I've setup the swap area and clicked continue it was loading for 30 minutes and nothing was happening any ideas why so?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> Siente, not near enough information
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !details
[13:39] <itcrashed> TJ-: on the other hand it also says "device has smart capability" and that it is enabled. Weird.
[13:39] <Siente> I've created a 16gb swap partition and clicked continue and it was loading 30 minutes and nothing was happening
[13:39] <TimeVirus_> 16gig swap :O
[13:39] <TimeVirus_> ?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Siente, 16 gig swap?  ??? seriously?
[13:39] <Siente> I have 8 gb ram
[13:39] <TimeVirus_> lol
[13:39] <iptable> TimeVirus_, it is different. NSA don't block
[13:40]  * iptable really goes for a break now. time to order pizza for a house full of kids
[13:40] <TimeVirus_> no need 4 swap w/ that much ram i bet
[13:40] <ikonia> depends on hibernation ?
[13:40] <ikonia> other than that, swap of that ammount would be mental
[13:41] <Siente> anyway why it was loading 30 minutes and nothing happened
[13:41] <res0000> Greetings ... Can anyone help me, please? By mistake, I renamed a critical file in /usr/share/backgrounds/, and I haven't been able to restore the original name. Now I can't get to the desktop, but using CTRL-ALT-F2, I can get to terminal. But when I enter "sudo -i", then password, then "mv /usr/share/backgrounds/file.png /usr/share/backgrounds/newname.png", instead of changing the name, it comes back a ">" prompt, like waiting for 
[13:41] <ikonia> res0000: there are no critical files in /usr/share/backgrounds
[13:41] <ikonia> res0000: the worst you should see is an incorrect desktop wallpaper
[13:42] <cfhowlett> ikonia, download the background .deb and reinstall it.
[13:42] <Chaos_Zero> Has anyone ever heard of something which will backup a file when it is modified?
[13:42] <ikonia> cfhowlett: ?
[13:42] <Chaos_Zero> as opposed to on a time interval?
[13:43] <Vladimir_> which command can I type to see if tftp listens on port 69 ?
[13:43] <res0000> ikonia - wartifinal-ubuntu.png is the default wallpaper (whose name I changed by mistake). All I can say is that caused the desktop to be totally screwed int garbage.
[13:43] <cfhowlett> res0000, download the backgrounds .deb and reinstall it.
[13:43] <cfhowlett> ikonia, sorry
[13:43] <cfhowlett> res0000, for that matter, if you have your ubuntu usb, it's in there
[13:43] <res0000> ikonia - that's warty-final-ubuntu.png, sorry
[13:44] <res0000> all i need to do is change the name back, but how?
[13:44] <ikonia> res0000: this is not a critical file
[13:44] <res0000> it's critical in teh sense that I can't get to the desktop
[13:44] <ikonia> res0000: mv file1.png file2.png
[13:44] <TJ-> itcrashed: how is the drive connected to the system now? If through a USB bus it may well not be possible
[13:44] <TimeVirus_> i'd bet NSA needs no permission to listen in, huh iptable?
[13:45] <ikonia> res0000: no wall paper will not stop you getting to a desktop
[13:45] <bipul> Hello I need to know the setting to install Minix3 inside my VirtualBox. Is it a 32 bit Architecture?
[13:45] <ikonia> res0000: it will just stop your desktop having a wall paper
[13:45] <z3kd> hi
[13:45] <bipul> sorry wrong channel
[13:45] <res0000> ikonia - yes, that's what I did, but the result is that instead of renaming, it returns with a ">" prompt.
[13:45] <k1l_> TimeVirus_: keep this channel clear from that nonsense. this channel is for technical ubunut support
[13:45] <z3kd> how to write in live-cd mode?
[13:45] <snufft> hi guys!
[13:46] <ikonia> res0000: that means it has renamed it
[13:46] <iptable> TimeVirus_, they do. it's just preliminary granted. but they don't block. Only hollywood has the right to block websites
[13:46] <ikonia> res0000: or it means you've used " marks to quote the command
[13:46] <res0000> ikonia - yes, what you say is probably true in theory -- but in this case!
[13:46] <ikonia> depending on if it's is a ">" prompt or a "$" prompt
[13:46] <res0000> ikonia --not in this case
[13:46] <ikonia> res0000: show me the exact command you used please.
[13:46] <ikonia> res0000: and I do mean exact
[13:46] <TJ-> res0000: You're including unbalanced quote marks in the comand; the shell is waiting for the closing quote
[13:47] <snufft> i'm connecting to a machine through Citrix Access Gateway's browser plugin. There's not real support for linux that I'm aware of, so I've got to connect through my windows machine. my windows machine isn't really setup for dev work, so I as wondering if it's possible to route my network connection on my ubuntu machine, through my windows machine, that's connected via the CAG?
[13:47] <snufft> wuld I ssh tunnel or vpn into the windows machine? or something else?
[13:48] <itcrashed> TJ-: It is an internal SATA hard drive at 3TB, however depending on what option I run, it only says its size is is 4GB, or 147GB
[13:48] <ubuntu-studio> HELLO
[13:49] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, ask your ubuntu question
[13:49] <res0000> ikonia - the exact commands are: "sudo -i" and entering password, then "mv /usr/share/backgrounds/```warty-final-ubuntu.png  /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png". This last results in the prompt changing from "root@res-pc$" to just ">".
[13:49] <ikonia> res0000: why ```
[13:49] <theadmin> res0000: You opened a bunch of quotes, bash expects you to enter a complete command -- so it asks you to finish it and close the quotes, but they ain't supposed to be there in the first place.
[13:50] <res0000> ther are NO quote marks in the commands
[13:50] <ThePadawan> hmmm whydoesn't http://dpaste.com/3YAZ3HJ work
[13:50] <cfhowlett> res0000, drag/drop your source file.
[13:50] <hwilde> res0000,     replace that ```  with \`\`\`
[13:50] <hwilde> res0000, or, put the entire file name inside single quotes
[13:50] <TJ-> itcrashed: I've seen that kind of issue with PATA drives with wrongly configured size jumpers, but not with SATA. Check the system dmesg log for more clues
[13:50] <theadmin> ThePadawan: Why do you need that, use grep
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> snufft  is this page useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[13:51] <res0000> oops, I guess those backticks ``` are a kind of quote mark.
[13:51] <ubuntu-studio> i want to software
[13:51] <itcrashed> TJ-: I am afraid I dont understand the output from there. Googling it takes me somewhat above my head. I tried gparted just now, it immediatley throws up "input output error during read on /dev/sdd"
[13:51] <theadmin> ThePadawan: Anyway, it doesn't work because of the < input.txt part
[13:51] <TJ-> itcrashed: Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[13:51] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[13:52] <ThePadawan> theadmin: o ok how do i fix it?
[13:52] <ubuntu-studio> no something
[13:52] <theadmin> ThePadawan: You need to put that when you call the script: bash myfile.sh < input.txt
[13:52] <ikonia> ThePadawan: try #bash
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !details | ubuntu-studio,
[13:53] <res0000> hwilde - I'll try that. I'm having to IRQ in Windows as a workaround, so I'll be a while rebooting, etc.
[13:53] <itcrashed> TJ-: Yes one sec!
[13:53] <hwilde> res0000, or rename the file, the ``` characters are special characters.
[13:53] <hwilde> res0000, install xchat and you can irc from linux
[13:54] <ubuntu-studio> ubottu...
[13:54] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[13:54] <TimeVirus_> hexchat too
[13:54] <res0000> hwilde - ohhh... I look into xchat. Thx
[13:54] <TimeVirus_> or
[13:54] <hwilde> !xchat
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> TimeVirus_  can i pm you?
[13:55] <itcrashed> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/TAKiv1eZ
[13:58] <aukun> how to open openoffice from terminal?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> aukun, openoffice-writer
[13:58] <punkgeek> how to change ubuntu welcome cli message?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !motd
[13:59] <TJ-> itcrashed: wow - that is what you call a failed drive!#
[13:59] <itcrashed> TJ-: lol, thank you :(
[13:59] <theadmin> punkgeek: There are scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ that are executed to create the MOTD
[13:59] <theadmin> punkgeek: Edit those as you wish.
[13:59] <snufft> MonkeyDust, I think ICA/XenApp are different to the CAG setup :( Thank you though :)
[14:00] <TJ-> itcrashed: I've recently seen some SATA drives with firmware failures showing like that; some manufacturers offer warranty replacement, so check make/model and support options
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> snufft  XEN is hypervisor technology, iirc, if you don't get an anser here, try #ubuntu-server
[14:01] <itcrashed> TJ-: I'm pretty lazy when it comes to that stuff. Conclusion, there is no saving it? I have another drive, exactly the same model. Should I be worried about that one too?
[14:01] <TJ-> itcrashed: Yes
[14:01] <aukun> openoffice-writer don't work
[14:01] <cfhowlett> aukun, did you install openoffice?  I thought the default is now libreoffice
[14:02] <hwilde> aukun, just type open and hit the tab key a bunch
[14:02] <theadmin> cfhowlett: It has been for ages
[14:02] <TJ-> itcrashed: That's why I say check up carefully on the make/model... if there is a firmware fix upgrade, you'll need to apply that to other drives even if you don't get a warranty replacement of the failed drive
[14:02] <hateball> The default is Libreoffice, and you'd launch with lowriter
[14:02] <theadmin> aukun: Don't use OpenOffice, it's ancient and is a bad idea, use LibreOffice which comes with Ubuntu
[14:02] <rypervenche> aukun: You can run "dpkg -L openoffice | grep bin" to find what the command should be.
[14:03] <snufft> MonkeyDust, thanks! Will do :)
[14:03] <snufft> MonkeyDust++
[14:03] <rypervenche> aukun: But yes, I would use libreoffice. And you should be able to open the LibreOffice writer with "lowriter"
[14:03] <itcrashed> TJ-: I see. Can you tell what's wrong with it if I am asked?
[14:03] <theadmin> rypervenche: Hint: "grep bin/" instead, filters out regular files with "bin" in the name
[14:03] <rypervenche> theadmin: Good idea. :)
[14:04] <theadmin> Or even /bin/
[14:04] <theadmin> Wait, no, that wouldn't work if files are installed to /bin itself since there's no starting slash in the output
[14:05] <fly___> hello
[14:06] <fly___> my wired connection doesn't work (I get network unreachable error whenever I try to ping something). wifi works fine. I am on ubuntu 14.04
[14:07] <res0001> hwilde -- it was indeed the backticks causing the problem, and single-quoting the file name in the mv command fixed it. I'm posting this using xchat from ubuntu desktop -- how can I use it from terminal?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> fly___: what Ethernet chip are you using>
[14:07] <fly___> ifconfig:  eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr ec:f4:bb:13:f6:6b
[14:07] <fly___>           inet6 addr: fe80::eef4:bbff:fe13:f66b/64 Scope:Link
[14:07] <fly___>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[14:07] <fly___>           RX packets:4604 errors:0 dropped:170 overruns:0 frame:0
[14:07] <fly___>           TX packets:1242 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[14:07] <fly___>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[14:07] <unopaste> fly___ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:07] <TJ-> itcrashed: "It doesn't respond to any SCSI commands"
[14:08] <frezix> when installing the netinstall on my VM, I can't seem to find a mirror in my country and I have to enter it manually - http://imgur.com/a/efxRZ - is this expected behavior?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> frezix: yes
[14:08] <itcrashed> TJ-: Allright. Thank you very much for your time and help! I'll check my options. I rather care alot about my other drive.
, don't know, how can I check it?
[14:10] <Piranah> lol 1700 people 1 op
[14:11] <strixUK1> hi: i've just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS and have noted what might be considered a bug in packaging dependencies: munin-plugins-core  should probably depend on package conntrack (or some of the plugins won't work)
[14:11] <strixUK1> would you agree that this is a bug, and should i raise a ticket for it?
[14:11] <fly___> so my internet card is Intel  82579LM
[14:12] <frezix> hmm, there also doesn't seem to be an HTTPS mirror on the mirror list - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:12] <frezix> I am disappoint
[14:12] <strixUK1> frezix: um, why do you need an HTTPS mirror?
[14:12] <g105b> An error occurred: null. Nice error message when trying to run jmeter. Any help?
[14:13] <fly___> here is output of ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/8169310/
[14:14] <frezix> strixUK1: so there's less chance of a MITM when installing file
[14:14] <frezix> *files
[14:15] <Benyamin> hello all, i have a question.. how to intgrated the new google Chrome(Not chromium) with wget ? my chrome version is 37. etc
[14:16] <bsdbandit> good morning all
[14:17] <Benyamin> morning, its night here
[14:17] <hualet_deepin> bsdbandit: good midnight ;)
[14:17] <strixUK1> frezix: well, packages certainly have MD5 or SHA1 hashes, though i don't know whether apt checks them, or if so when.  anyway, as i understand it, MITM is a lot harder to accomplish than people commonly suppose.
[14:17] <bsdbandit> im setting up a ubuntu kickstart using usb my question is there a way to add patches to the usb so my ubuntu box does not have to go out to the net  to patches itself
[14:17] <bsdbandit> ?
[14:18] <strixUK1> bsdbandit: AIUI yes, you can roll your own installer with whatever packages you want, but it might be simpler to make a local mirror so your box doesn't have to go to the outside net itself.
[14:20] <bsdbandit> yes i have a mirror but its on another network that i cannot get to
[14:20] <bsdbandit> this box is running on a off network
[14:20] <bsdbandit> so that is why i need to get the pacthes from the usb stick
[14:21] <mq|chromebook> :(){:|:&}:
[14:21] <genii> !offline
[14:21] <mq|chromebook> (in case anybody is wondering)
[14:21] <genii> Hm, that needs updating
[14:21] <TJ-> !ops | fork-bomb from mq|chromebook
[14:22] <mq|chromebook> :(
[14:22] <bsdbandit> !APTonCD
[14:22] <bsdbandit> !offline
[14:22] <ikonia> TJ-: thanks,
[14:23] <fly___> no wired connection on ubuntu 14.04, wifi works ok. My network card is I218-LM (rev 04). Here is the output of ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/8169310/ .   Any ideas?
[14:23] <hwilde> fly___, it has no IP address.
[14:24] <strixUK1> bsdbandit: well, you could just as as easily put a mirror of updates and security on the usb filesystem and point apt at that for its updates
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> fly___: what Ethernet controller do you have?
[14:24] <strixUK1> (by which i mean you can specify custom mirrors, which can be file:/// URLs)
, what has no ip? and why does wireless works?
[14:25] <hwilde> fly___,  eth0 is your wired ethernet device, and it has no IP address.
[14:25] <fly___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8169373/
[14:25] <fly___> so what can I do with it?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> fly___: tried:   sudo modprobe -r e1000e; sleep 2; sudo modprobe e1000e
[14:26] <deb_ac> Is it possible to pause badblocks?
[14:26] <strixUK1> ubottu: that would require knowing what packages he wanted beforehand.  bsdbandit wants whatever upgrades are required to freshen his new isolated box.
[14:26] <strixUK1> ah, i did wonder.
[14:27] <hwilde> fly___,  go to the network manager and configure it, and follow the steps there.     is it plugged into a router that provides DHCP addresses?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> fly___: wireless works as the driver is ok and the interface is configured. I thought that would be obvious....
[14:29] <kouakou> slt
 I tried that, and nothing changed
[14:29] <fly___> also no output
[14:30] <hwilde> fly___,   sudo dhclient eth0             will attempt to get a dhcp address.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> fly___: does the ethernet port have flashing lights around it?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> fly___: have you unplugged and replugged in the ethernet cable?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> fly___: have you tried a different port on the router / switch / whatever
, yes to all of the above
, dhclient just hangs
[14:42] <geekstay> Hi everyone. Yesterday I reinstalled Xubuntu 14.04 on my laptop and installed prime, but computer fan still running, and it's on intel card.
[14:42] <prp-e> Hello
[14:43] <netlar> prp-e: Hi
[14:43] <geekstay> It didn't make noise before I reinstalled.
[14:43] <wrongplace> hi
[14:44] <wrongplace> do you know of any linux game to waste my time? im sick at home
[14:44] <geekstay> Hi.
[14:44] <cfhowlett> wrongplace, open software center.  search for games.  don't be lazy.
[14:44] <netlar> wrongplace: Free game?
[14:44] <wrongplace> free game
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> !games | wrongplace
[14:46] <Guest23712> Hello world
[14:46] <serraphyn> Is it okay to install ubuntu 14.04 on a Virtual Machine on a dual xeon (12-core) Mac Pro Tower? Is there any issues I might run into?
[14:46] <hwilde> serraphyn, try the livecd and see if it works
[14:47] <rypervenche> wrongplace: teeworlds and xonotic, go nuts
[14:48] <frib> is there a platform-dependent way to refresh a gtk system tray icon ?
[14:48] <serraphyn> is there something wrong ubuntu.com?
[14:49] <geirha> serraphyn: appears so
[14:49] <cfhowlett> serraphyn, nope:  http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.ubuntu.com
[14:49] <geirha> stylesheet is gone apparently
[14:49] <serraphyn> cfhowlett: perhaps load the site before commenting, there is something wrong as geirha is saying
[14:50] <cfhowlett> serraphyn, loads.. fine in China .
[14:50] <geirha> cfhowlett: doesn't find the stylesheet here
[14:51] <goose> I'm trying to install 14.04 "Server Edition" on a laptop with a USB drive, I've flashed the ISO via Rufus onto the USB drive, but every time I try to boot from it I get to the main menu, select "Install Ubuntu Server", and then kernel panic
[14:52] <ikonia> goose: why are you installing server edition on a laptop?
[14:52] <ikonia> goose: what's the kernel panic base complaint ?
[14:52] <goose> ikonia: irrelevant question, but because I"m going to use it as a home server
[14:52] <ikonia> goose: bye then
[14:53] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | goose, 1. verify the ISO         2. verify the USB
[14:53] <geirha> goose: Use the desktop version
[14:53] <lego_> Just to update you guys, it worked.  i can now access my files.  you guys just helped save me about 18 hours of work
[14:53] <goose> cfhowlett: thanks, I couldn't find the URL for the md5sum for the torrents
[14:53] <goose> I'll start with that
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !hash
[14:54] <cfhowlett> goose, http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS
[14:55] <goose> Interesting, the hash doesn't match. I guess the torrent is corrupt or something, as I downloaded it and verified it twice.
[14:55] <goose> I'll try the ISO from the web page then.
[14:56] <cfhowlett> goose, rare for torrents to corrupt.  are you checking 14.04 or 14.04.1                and which did you actually download?
[14:56] <goose> ah, 14.04.1
[14:56] <goose> good catch
[14:57] <goose> though still a different hash
[14:57] <cfhowlett> goose, tsk.  well, download/torrent again then.
[14:57] <prp-e> Funny fact : Iranian Ubuntu community designed their own magazine by Adobe InDesign :D
[14:58] <goose> I'll give up on torrent and try the official site for now
[14:58] <brontosaurusrex> prp-e: what would you use on linux?
[14:59] <prp-e> brontosaurusrex, ???
[14:59] <brontosaurusrex> prp-e: what software would you use for desktop publishing on linux?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> brontosaurusrex, scribus
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !info scribus
[14:59] <brontosaurusrex> cfhowlett: did you actually publish something using scribus?
[14:59] <prp-e> Scribus does not support Persian, I use XeTeX, and there's a package called XePersian.
[15:01] <_0xff> scribus is really cool, I used it for a weekly magazine
[15:01] <brontosaurusrex> _0xff: an example, link ?
[15:01] <prp-e> The problem is, they used cracked InDesign on cracked Windows!
[15:02] <cfhowlett> brontosaurusrex, there's always LaTex - which does have farsi support.  http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Farsi
[15:02] <Miquel> hai all
[15:02] <prp-e> I think Iranian community must be restarted. I can adopt new community's management.
[15:02] <Miquel> hi all
[15:03] <brontosaurusrex> cfhowlett: yeah, i suppose latex is the way to go for some ...
[15:03] <cfhowlett> prp-e, if you're in a position to help them out, please do.
[15:03] <_0xff> brontosaurusrex: it's been like 6 years ago, I lost all the material. However I found it simpler than InDesign
[15:03] <cfhowlett> brontosaurusrex, me, publish?  Not yet, but I have played with scribus.
[15:03] <prp-e> cfhowlett, current one is so corrupted and my user is banned after a protest.
[15:04] <cfhowlett> prp-e, banned after protest?  In Iran?  NO!
[15:04] <brontosaurusrex> prp-e: in such cases its usually better to start fresh and just ignore them.
[15:04] <AlexPortable> Hi. My brightness is inverted.
[15:04] <prp-e> Yes, I protested against moderators, and they banned my username, I only can read posts!
[15:04] <Jeanette22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.ly/1mFMmyS
[15:05] <cfhowlett> Jeanette22, take your porn spam and go away..
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> such spammers justify a 'invite only' policy
[15:07] <AlexPortable> Slider goes to less bright, monitor goes more bright. Slider goes to more bright, monitor goes to darker..
[15:07] <prp-e> cfhowlett, What Iranian community does for now, is only a fraud!
[15:07] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, or registered use only.
[15:07] <prp-e> nothing useful!
[15:07] <goose> Still no dice, kernal panic on trying to install. Also kernel panic when I try to verify contents of the USB drive. I previously (2 days ago) installed Debian with the same method, so I know USB installation will work.
[15:07] <cfhowlett> prp-e, nothing we can do about that here in technical support channel.
[15:08] <goose> though I suppose I could bite a bullet and waste a DVD
[15:08] <prp-e> cfhowlett, where can I say about their fraud?
[15:08] <cfhowlett> goose, try a different usb port.  ( I know, but humour me)
[15:08] <goose> cfhowlett: did :(
[15:08] <cfhowlett> prp-e, wait one minute
[15:09] <goose> cfhowlett: tried with 14.04 and 14.04.1, additionally. I'll just burn a DVD and try that.
[15:10] <prp-e> cfhowlett, 3 minutes :D
[15:10] <AlexPortable> goose: why not usb?
[15:11] <goose> AlexPortable: wondering if that's the weak link in the system, as none of the USB drives or images I've tried will start successfully
[15:11] <anonymous_> Olá galera
[15:11] <cyber_ed> hello. pls. help i need to reset root password from unauthorized ubuntu server
[15:12] <cfhowlett> prp-e, seems like this might be the place to start http://community.ubuntu.com/community-structure/governance/
[15:12] <cfhowlett> !password | cyber_ed
[15:12] <cyber_ed> ubottu: yes
[15:12] <prp-e> Thanks
[15:14] <cfhowlett> geirha, seems www.ubuntu.com is back to normal ...
[15:15] <goose> welp, DVD blinks my caps lock key as well
[15:18] <ForeverApprentic> So how do I configure Pidgin to connect to this here support channel?
[15:22] <squeakytoy> Hey all. I have a newbie question. In a terminal I can without any problems run a command that is in my PATH; "sonar-runner". But if I put "sonar-runner" in a .sh file and execute that, I get "No command found".
[15:22] <squeakytoy> what could be the reason behind that?
[15:23] <streulma> how can I solve "No module named linecache" python error apt-get while dpkg install ?
[15:23] <expunge> streulma: you might ask apt-file what provides linecache
[15:33] <ForeverApprentic> How can I connect to this with pidgin?
[15:35] <expunge> ForeverApprentic: what, IRC?
[15:35] <ForeverApprentic> yeS i THINK SO.
[15:36] <ForeverApprentic> .......Yes I think so.
[15:36] <pgar23> ForeverApprentic: in pidgin u need to add an irc account and join #ubuntu
[15:36] <pgar23> ForeverApprentic: I am using pidgin
[15:40] <ForeverApprentic> Okay so I made an IRC account and set the server to #ubuntu. Now what?
[15:41] <fabrizio> salve a tutti
[15:41] <expunge> salvete
[15:41] <expunge> ForeverApprentic: /join this channel?
[15:41] <fabrizio> io uso zorin dove posso trovare un chat dedicata?
[15:42] <k1l_> !it | fabrizio
[15:42] <bazhang>  /msg alis list
[15:42] <k1l_> but zorin is not supported there
[15:42] <bazhang> perhaps alis can help him find the zorin chan
[15:44] <streulma> now I get dpkg-preconfigure unable to re-open stdin
[15:44] <ForeverApprentic> All I see is an empty buddy chat
[15:48] <Zorgy> hi everyone
[15:49] <kevin> I'm trying to assemble/mount a raid array in a new installation. I took the drives out of an old machine that did work.
[15:49] <Guest89132> Anyone want to take a stab at it?
[15:50] <expunge> raid, asking for trouble
[15:50] <Guest89132> heh
[15:50] <Guest89132> i'll just take mounting one of the drives so i can pull the data off it
[15:55] <pratz> Hello guys
[15:56] <Guest858_> Good evening, for a few reasons on this computer I use Ubuntu 9.10, and it's all good, I only have a one problem, Firefox 3.6 will not play all videos on the internet (eg some Flowplayer) I can somehow upgrade to view all the videos? without having to update the entire operating system, Thank you for your answers
[15:56] <kamal__> how to install VB through WIne??
[15:56] <pratz> I bought a Jabra Helo2 wireless headsets, but I am facing problems to pair it with ubuntu 14.04
[15:56] <expunge> kamal__: VB?
[15:56] <kamal__> visual basic
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest858_: 9.10 is EOL and no longer supported in any way
[15:56] <pratz> I have nexus 5 and headphone works well with it
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest858_: remove 9.10 and reinstal with 14.04, it will give you support til April 2019
[15:57] <xangua> Guest858_: you can download latest firefox from firefox.com but you don't get assured it will work, please upgrade to a supported release.
[15:57] <expunge> kamal__: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=94
[15:58] <Guest858_>  no website yet support these versions EOL?
[15:58] <data> hi, i am trying to rebuild this kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.16.1-utopic/ Where to I find the ubuntu sources for this? I need to enable the openvswitch plugin in the kernel, as I need both 3.16.1 and openvswitch
[15:58] <pratz> my laptop is lenovo thinkpad
[15:59] <Guest89132> expunge, wop wop    i got it. My array was assembled under /dev/md0p1 instead of /dev/md0. odd. just mounted it.
[15:59] <k1l_> Guest858_: 9.10 is way out of life. please reinstall a new version like 12.04 or 14.04
[15:59] <D3STROY>  hola
[15:59] <D3STROY>  aqui se cuecen abas?
[15:59] <Blenda> how do i make my .blend files opens directly when launch them, until now i have to dragndrop
[15:59] <k1l_> !es | D3STROY
[15:59] <source47> hi there. i am having some problems running apt-get update
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest89132  you can use 9.10 if you like, but you can' ask support/help for it
[15:59] <source47> after adding the source for zfs
[15:59] <kamal__> expunge i have visit site but, cant understand
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest89132: i'd say your browser is full of security holes which the newer versions will close
[16:00] <source47> i get stuck Building initial module for 3.13.0-32-generic
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest89132  can't*
[16:00] <source47> but it works fine if i run it natively
[16:00] <expunge> kamal__: click on a version on the left, follow any instructions
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest858_ ^
[16:00] <expunge> kamal__: platinum is the best rating
[16:00] <KMart4130> MonkeyDust, I think you were talking to wrong user.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest858_: but you will get no updates, as the sources of packages are turned off
[16:00] <kamal__> ok
[16:00] <k1l_> Guest858_: you could try to upgrade, but from 9.10 you need to do all upgrades and that will take way more time
[16:00] <KMart4130> ActionParsnip, You were talking to wrong user i thinks
[16:00] <D3STROY>  shit!
[16:00] <expunge> kamal__: mono can run VB.NET, FWIW
[16:00] <ikonia> D3STROY: no need for that language
[16:00] <ikonia> please control your langauge
[16:00] <pratz> can any one help with bluetooth on 14.04 please
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> KMart4130: yeah, people with the 'guest' name drive me nuts
[16:00] <expunge> kamal__: and also old vbscript
[16:01] <KMart4130> haha sorry
[16:01] <Guest858_> ok, Thanks all! Goodbye
[16:03] <Blenda> how do i make my .blend files opens directly when launch them, until now i have to dragndrop? i don't know how to associate files with softwares
[16:03] <Blenda> or in fact it doesnt work with blender
[16:04] <expunge> Blenda: right click, properties
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Blenda  right click on a file > properties > opene with > make default
[16:06] <Blenda> brb
[16:08] <Blenda> http://send-picture.com/img-53ff53755cd2d.html maybe someone will find this usefull, though incomplete
[16:08] <Blenda> oops wrong place
[16:09] <expunge> UK keyboard!
[16:09] <Blenda> we used to say "qwerty" as in France too
[16:10] <Blenda> we had azerty on Amstrad, since pc its qwerty
[16:10] <expunge> enter/\ keys are all goofy =)
[16:10] <pratz> any help with bluetooth ?
[16:10] <pratz> blueman does not detect device
[16:10] <expunge> using Xfce?
[16:11] <expunge> is the device in discovery mode?
[16:11] <Blenda> expunge monkeydust the pb is i don't have blender in "other apps", i think i messed up with the install of it, the folder is in my downloads folder
[16:11] <TimeVirus> fred
[16:12] <pratz> expunge: yes
[16:13] <expunge> Blenda: yup, you messed up
[16:14] <Blenda> tell me how i will do it right for the future near release plz
[16:16] <mint> how can i copy the text from nano to pastebin?
[16:16] <expunge> Blenda: enable the 'universe' repo and sudo apt-get install blender; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding_the_Universe_and_Multiverse_Repositories
[16:16] <expunge> mint: in X?
[16:16] <mint> well terminal
[16:17] <mint> using mint live cd now
[16:17] <Blenda> expunge, that will download the latest release? when i tried it install the old 2.66
[16:17] <expunge> mint: so outside of X
[16:17] <expunge> Blenda: depends on your Ubuntu version
[16:17] <m0rtex> hi, i know is an OCD question.. but i have my kali system set up perfectly except for one thing niggling at me, the battery icon in the top corner only shows half of the icon. i know it is supposed to show the full icon as i have seen it on othes. anyone know how to fix it?
[16:17] <mint> yes
[16:17] <Blenda> expunge 14.04
[16:17] <expunge> Blenda: you'd get 2.69
[16:18] <Blenda> yeah 2.69
[16:18] <expunge> something you need from a higher version?
[16:18] <Blenda> 2.72 sure
[16:18] <expunge> mint: if your mouse is working (via gpm), you can select something, and middle click to paste
[16:18] <thumpba> how can i exclude apps from a dist-upgrade
[16:18] <expunge> mint: otherwise you'd want something like GNU 'screen'
[16:18] <expunge> mint: or you can save the file and run it through pastebinit
[16:19] <mint> pastebinit?
[16:19] <mint> how do i do that?
[16:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info pastebinit | mint
[16:19] <Noiro> hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu server and downloaded and installed xfce4, how can I set it to start when ubuntu-server does?
[16:21] <ikonia> m0rtex: try #kali-linux we don't support kali here
[16:21] <expunge> Noiro: what exact package did you install?
[16:21] <m0rtex> thanks ikonia
[16:21] <Noiro> expunge: xfce4
[16:21] <expunge> Noiro: you should probably install a DM, like lightdm
[16:22] <Noiro> expunge, how much configuration do I need to do once I install it?
[16:22] <expunge> Noiro: likely none, short of telling it to start at boot
[16:22] <Noiro> how do I do that?
[16:22] <Noiro> I assume I just edit a file somewhere, just don't remember which one
[16:23] <expunge> Noiro: sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults, maybe
[16:23] <expunge> not real familiar with the init on Ubuntu
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> m0rtex: kali isnt supported here
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> m0rtex: ask in #kali-linux
[16:25] <Noiro> hmmm, maybe. Worst case, I think /etc/rc.local I can manually edit
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> mint: you can pipe text streams to the pastebinit binary, as long as you have web access in liveCD, you will get a URL back
[16:25] <Blenda> expunge: thx will study once needed
[16:25] <mint> was trying to get wireless working in gentoo
[16:25] <mint> i give up
[16:26] <TimeVirus> lol
[16:26] <TimeVirus> ndiswrapper
[16:26] <k1l_> mint: neither mint nor gentoo is supported in this channel. please ask in ##linux
[16:26] <mint> i know.. sorry.. just got frustrated
[16:26] <expunge> mint: or #gentoo
[16:26] <TimeVirus> no venting allowed in here! official business only!
[16:27] <mint> biolinux supported here?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> mint: no, as its no an ubuntu release from Canonical
[16:27] <mint> okay
[16:27] <k1l_> !guidelines > TimeVirus stop that offtopic and nonsense
[16:28] <TimeVirus> exactly
[16:29] <frib> what is a reasonable interval at which to poll battery levels ?
[16:30] <expunge> frib: whatever would give you time to plug in a cable
[16:30] <expunge> you could even poll more if the last poll suggested a certain threshold of low-ness
[16:30] <expunge> and less if not
[16:30] <expunge> although it's not likely to matter much
[16:30] <expunge> polling battery level is not exactly intense
[16:30] <frib> every 10 seconds too much?
[16:30] <expunge> that sounds like extreme overkill
[16:30] <kamal__> wine/home/kamal/.wine is not owned by you
[16:31] <kamal__> what may be the problem
[16:31] <kamal__> ???
[16:31] <expunge> kamal__: are you 'kamal'? (whoami)
[16:31] <kamal__> yup
[16:31] <frib> kamal__, you don't own the directory/file ?
[16:31] <kamal__> i have tried but, it said this
[16:31] <expunge> is it really 'wine/home/kamal/.wine' ?
[16:31] <kamal__> whats that mean
[16:32] <frib> expunge, 30s ?
[16:32] <kamal__> reallhy no
[16:32] <kamal__> really not
[16:32] <k1l_> kamal__: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[16:32] <data> hi, i am trying to rebuild this kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.16.1-utopic/ Where to I find the ubuntu sources for this? I need to enable the openvswitch plugin in the kernel, as I need both 3.16.1 and openvswitch
[16:32] <kamal__> m using mint 17
[16:32] <k1l_> !mint | kamal__ see their channels please
[16:33] <kamal__> oh
[16:34] <k1l_> kamal__: mint uses a different versioning system. so please ask them since it could be not an ubuntu issue at all.
[16:34] <kamal__> site didn`t open??
[16:35] <kamal__> k1l : Is this possible to install??
[16:36] <Noiro> I can't get lightdm working, I have it boot on startup but when I try to login it says "failed to start session" what's going on?
[16:36] <bngle> what could be wrong. I have ufw firewall, and it is using almost the default config... but when I enable it, I can connect to port 21 even if my server is not listening on port 21
[16:36] <k1l_> kamal__: this is not a ubuntu issue. so ask the mint guys or the wine guys. thanks
[16:37] <bngle> when i disable ufw i cannot connect to port 21 anymore
[16:37] <kamal__> ok thnks
[16:37] <vicente> has anyone tried videotrans for converting video files?
[16:37] <bngle> i cannot do anything on port 21 put it still feels strange.
[16:38] <expunge> vicente: I use ffmpeg, 'cause it's the best
[16:38] <cuddylier> Is it possible to find the directory a python script was started in?
[16:39] <expunge> vicente: I don't make DVDs anymore, though, 'cause it's the 21st century and life is too short
[16:39] <vicente> expunge: ffmpeg is an alternative to mplayer right?
[16:39] <expunge> vicente: no not really
[16:39] <expunge> mplayer uses a lot of ffmpeg stuff for its backend, though
[16:40] <pompi> Hi
[16:40] <expunge> hi pompi
[16:40] <pompi> Hun?
[16:41] <pompi> Hungary?
[16:41] <momomo> How do you connect to a pptp using hexchat or pidgin? On this site, they make it sound easy: http://freevpn.me/accounts .. i am thinking of the one to the left .. i have no idea what to do with the certificate
[16:41] <immmune> hi
[16:41] <pompi> Hi
[16:41] <immmune> how is everyone ?
[16:42] <IdleOne> !hungary
[16:42] <immmune> need some help with fedora
[16:42] <IdleOne> immmune: try #fedora
[16:42] <immmune> okay
[16:42] <immmune> i want to install ubuntu over my dell e4300
[16:43] <Noiro> I can't get lightdm working, I have it boot on startup but when I try to login it says "failed to start session" what's going on?
[16:43] <immmune> but can not it says no os found when i boot from dvd
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> immmune  i think you copied the .iso to dvd, without extracting it
[16:44] <expunge> Noiro: maybe you should just install xubuntu-desktop
[16:44] <immmune> my friend did it. i just did it with fedora and its running. may be he did it wrong
[16:44] <Noiro> expunge, I have it installed, it just doesn't like the password for some reason, I just want something lightweight
[16:45] <immmune> any classy distro with a cool and super look ?
[16:45] <ronaldsmazitis> I installed skype on ubuntu 14.04 and shortcut seems to not start it
[16:45] <ronaldsmazitis> instead I have to use terminal
[16:45] <expunge> immmune: SLS
[16:45] <ronaldsmazitis> any way to fix this?
[16:45] <k1l_> immmune: ubuntu! (since you ask in a ubuntu channel)
[16:46] <immmune> :)
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> immmune  you can give it the look you want, with !themes
[16:46] <nullbyte_> ubuntu haves serious problems with display (specialy with nvidia cards)
[16:46] <k1l_> immmune: so if you have a technical ubuntu support question ask it. for chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:46] <immmune> thanks will join later when i get it on my pc. thanks for the help guys
[16:46] <nullbyte_> after new updates-kernel or video driver i think video driver screen (X) is gone
[16:47] <nullbyte_> and can't be fixed
[16:47] <nullbyte_> from version 11 to 14
[16:47] <k1l_> nullbyte_: do you want to rant or actually want to solve an issue?
[16:47] <nullbyte_> k1l_: that cant be fixed
[16:48] <nullbyte_> k1l_: they are too many people with this problems
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  if it can't be fixed, what do you want
[16:48] <ronaldsmazitis> hello, I installed skype on ubuntu 14.04 and shortcut seems to not start it
[16:48] <ronaldsmazitis> instead I have to use terminal
[16:48] <k1l_> nullbyte_: what do you want? if you just want to rant leave this channel please
[16:48] <yvess> bonjour
[16:48] <ronaldsmazitis> where are dash shortcuts stored?
[16:48] <yvess> tijb
[16:50] <Blenda> hi yvess
[16:50] <ronaldsmazitis> hello, anybody can help me?
[16:54] <ronaldsmazitis> I can be read?
[16:54] <ikonia> you can
[16:54] <ronaldsmazitis> tnx, ikonia
[16:54] <ronaldsmazitis> I just can't push on icon skype
[16:54] <ronaldsmazitis> from dash
[16:58] <cuddylier> What is the best way to see the IPs spamming my box with http requests?
[16:58] <cuddylier> Without checking the nginx log each time
[16:59] <eeee> ronaldsmazitis: dash shortcuts are in /usr/share/applications
[17:00] <ronaldsmazitis> tnx, eee, althought I found
[17:00] <ronaldsmazitis> I changed command to just skype without %U
[17:00] <ronaldsmazitis> still can't push it
[17:00] <eeee> if you run the command in the terminal does it work?
[17:00] <pixman> Why this version of Ubuntu named "Trusty Tahr"?
[17:01] <ronaldsmazitis> yes
[17:01] <ronaldsmazitis> only it closes with terminal itself even if I use &
[17:01] <eeee> ronaldsmazitis: you have to quit the terminal by typing exit
[17:01] <ronaldsmazitis> pixman: it's in that horned beast http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Stuffed_Arabian_Tahr-750x5243.jpg
[17:02] <ronaldsmazitis> eeee, tnx for tip
[17:03] <genii> pixman: "The tahr navigates Himalayan heights, shaggily suited, sure-footed and steady. A small tourist tahr population lived on my favourite Table Mountain, and while they’ve made way for indigenous animals, for a long time they symbolised hardiness and fearlessness, perched as they were against the cliffs. We’ll do well together. Let’s get cracking!"  http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> asketh and thou shalt know
[17:04] <pixman> ok, thx
[17:07] <ronaldsmazitis> http://9gag.com/gag/aGVwQzX genii
[17:10] <Alexander_> Alex_ander
[17:12] <darksider> hi guys, when I issue a "shutdown now" command over an ssh connection, the computer starts the shutdown sequence and after "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility", it asks for root password. How can I avoid it?
[17:13] <Jake> I have passwordauthentication set to yes in my ssh config but when I try to connect the server still only supplies publickey
[17:13] <ikonia> darksider: avoid what ?
[17:13] <darksider> ikonia: computer asking for the root password
[17:13] <ikonia> darksider: change your sudo rules to no password
[17:14] <Mark____> Hey guys, I had a question about ubuntu.. I attempted to install 12.04 which I burned to a disk a little back; and the installer kept coming up with errors and crashed. Somehow the 22GB partition I created is still in existence in windows 7 on my SSD.. And I cannot figure out how to get rid of it or even find it
[17:14] <darksider> it is a headless computer, and by the time it asks for the password, the ssh connection is down
[17:14] <ikonia> darksider: what ???
[17:14] <ikonia> darksider: it should ask for a password before it begins the shutdown
[17:14] <darksider> ikonia: i issue the command as root
[17:14] <ikonia> darksider: what is the exact command you issue as root
[17:14] <felon> can i install software to decode movies and burn them while using the ubuntu live cd without installing the distro along side windows 7?
[17:15] <darksider> ikonia: "shutdown now"
[17:15] <ikonia> darksider: then it will not prompt you for a password
[17:15] <darksider> not if i do it as root
[17:15] <darksider> :)
[17:15] <darksider> tried sudo shutdown now
[17:15] <darksider> same result
[17:15] <ikonia> darksider: I don't understand ? you're saying it's asking you for a password but then you're saying it's not
[17:15] <ikonia> darksider: same result ??
[17:15] <ikonia> darksider: using sudo / root are totally different situations
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> felon  you want to use a live session to burn dvd's? yes, it can be done, if you boot from usb
[17:16] <felon> oh
[17:16] <felon> im booting from dvd.
[17:16] <darksider> ikonia: to simplify the problem, problem is that it does the same with "sudo shutdown now"
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> felon  or if you have more than one cd/dvd player
[17:17] <ikonia> darksider: it does the same ? what is "the same"
[17:17] <felon> duh! i didnt think of that
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> felon  you cannot take out the dvd and continue using the live session
[17:18] <darksider> ikonia: lets try again: I issue "sudo shutdown now" over ssh, it starts the shudown process and midway tru it, it asks for root password
[17:18] <metaspike> there's always "toram=1"
[17:18] <hwilde> felon, use the dvd, go to the menu and make a live usb stick,  reboot from the usb stick
[17:18] <metaspike> or there was anyway...
[17:18] <felon> why didnt i think of that i feel retarted now
[17:18] <ikonia> darksider: it will not do that
[17:18] <ikonia> darksider: it will ask you for a password before it starts anything to do with shutdown
[17:19] <YokoBR> hi guys
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> felon  don't have to, if you're not familiar with it
[17:19] <metaspike> you can authourize commands like shutdown without the root password in /etc/sudoers
[17:19] <pixman> A Thirsty Goat http://imgur.com/gallery/civQQne
[17:20]  * m3n3chm0 hi
[17:20] <Rory> pixman: Very nice, but better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:20] <YokoBR> hi guys, anybody using virtualbox on ubuntu server?
[17:20] <felon> i didnt think about the second dvd burner while using the disk for a live session for some aparent reason
[17:20] <Rory> YokoBR: Probably! Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:20] <YokoBR> Rory, sorry...
[17:21] <rangergord> Hi. I'd like to remove the package qt-chooser, which according to its properties in Synaptic, breaks a few dev tools. However, when I try to remove it, it says that will also remove Skype and Quassel, non-dev apps that just happen to use Qt. Why? And How can I avoid this?  I just want development Qt libs off my system.
[17:21] <Rory> Ah, didnt meant to come across as rude :)
[17:21] <YokoBR> Guys, how can i set up my virtualbox vm to access the external world?
[17:21] <darksider> ikonia: ill try again, just in cas
[17:21] <darksider> case
[17:21] <metaspike> NAT
[17:21] <metaspike> yoko^
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  set the network to 'bridged'
[17:22] <metaspike> and that
[17:22] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust: i've done it
[17:22] <felon> i was trying to bypass adminisstrator privliges for installing software at a different location without reseting the pass using chntpw
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  great, now launch the virtual machine
[17:23] <felon> but oh well
[17:23] <YokoBR> done, MonkeyDust .
[17:23] <YokoBR> I can access from lan, but can't access from outside.
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  sounds like a port forward issue to me, then
[17:24] <rangergord> YokoBR: do you want the VM To connect out (ie to google.com), or for the outside to connect in (your friend connects to your VM)
[17:24] <darksider> ikonia: issued "sudo shutdown now" -> after stopping V runlevel compatibility is says: "Give root password for maintenance (or type Ctrl-D to continue)"
[17:24] <ikonia> darksider: you're giving theh wrong command
[17:24] <ikonia> darksider: sudo shutdown -h now
[17:25] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I am in a bit of a pickle. I just installed 14.04, but I need Windows7 to be the default boot option (no UEFI). I found instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS but I can't find the menu.lst file in /boot/grub, it's not there.
[17:25] <darksider> lets try it :)
[17:26] <YokoBR> rangergord, i want my friends connecting to my vm
[17:27] <YokoBR> rangergord, i just want it to get a public ip
[17:27] <YokoBR> and anybody could connect
[17:28] <Mathuin> I would like to submit a request to update the golang packages for trusty.  How do I do this?
[17:28] <natsu> bennypr0fane, try altering in grub.cfg
[17:30] <voidfire> any ideas as to why greek keyboard  layouts no matter which one you choose xubuntu will deny putting tones above the letters?
[17:30] <thumpba> after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 i have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo.list.distUpgrade should i delete the distUpgrade ones
[17:30] <natsu> bennypr0fane, /boot/grub/grub.cfg - This is the main configuration file that replaces menu.ls
[17:30] <Mark____> Hey guys, I had a question about ubuntu.. I attempted to install 12.04 which I burned to a disk a little back; and the installer kept coming up with errors and crashed. Somehow the 22GB partition I created is still in existence in windows 7 on my SSD.. And I cannot figure out how to get rid of it or even find it.
[17:31] <voidfire> like any special greek character you need to press the ';' key before the letter to get it with a tone above it like the i letter has a tone above it
[17:31] <Mathuin> k
[17:31] <voidfire> im using xubuntu 14.04 and ofc ive done the casual research on the matter but no solution
[17:32] <vicente> Mark____: have you done the disc integrity test to confirm your installation medium is not corrupted?
[17:33] <Blenda> Q: runnin firefox Ubuntu, a little thing annoying me is when a function such as "show file" or "show folder", the "explorer" doenst appear on top, i have to minimize or alt tab, asked on #firefox still waiting
[17:33] <Blenda> is when *i use* a fnction
[17:33] <darksider> ikonia: you are right, it works, i have used "shutdown now" until today and it worked fine, putting the computer into a sleep state, but "shutdown -h now" turns it completely off
[17:33] <Mark____> I have not vicente.. How may I do that?
[17:35] <Zorgy> using Xubuntu 14.04, i can't access to the power manager, it says " error, FAilure to load the Xfce power manager ", any ideas ?
[17:35] <vicente> Mark____: when you boot from the disc, it will give the option to Check for CD defects. select that and let it run through its process
[17:36] <ska> How can I get apt-get -f install and "aptitude -f install" to agree ?
[17:38] <YokoBR> found the problem :D was on guest os, route add default gw (gatewayip) eth0
[17:40] <alipoor90> I can't describe how much happy I am from migrating from windows to Linux! :D
[17:41] <natsu> alipoor90, so are we
[17:44] <unkn-error> is it possible to install into ecrypted partitions but when the system is starting to ask only One Password at the boot time for mounting the encrypted partitions? As "/" and "swap" partition is encrypted the system is asking TWO passwords, even if the passwd is the same. ( unencrypted "/boot" => sda1 , encrypted "/" => sda2 and encrypted "swap" => sda3 )
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Zorgy  run: xfce4-power-manager
[17:46] <bennypr0fane> natsu, it says in that file not to edit it
[17:48] <natsu> bennypr0fane, try through nautilus
[17:48] <bennypr0fane> natsu: anyhow, this file also looks quite different. Can you help me find the line I need to edit?
[17:48] <icarus> hello all
[17:49] <icarus> i have a question about the disk encryption level that ubuntu uses when you select "encrypt drive" during install
[17:49] <bennypr0fane> natsu: I have it open, I just don't know what to change. It's differnet from menulst
[17:49] <icarus> it is dm_crypt i know, but what encryption level does it use?
[17:51] <Zorgy> ok done, ty MonkeyDust ;)
[17:51] <natsu> bennypr0fane, do you need to change the priority?
[17:51] <mJayk_> Anyone have ubuntu currently running on a u430
[17:51] <bennypr0fane> natsu yes.
[17:52] <bennypr0fane> natsu nearching some more: this says to edit /etc/defAULT/GRUB
[17:54] <mJayk_> icarus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems is your best bet
[17:57] <Guest85405> where were you when the fire nation attacked?
[17:57] <natsu> bennypr0fane, http://askubuntu.com/questions/52963/how-do-i-set-windows-to-boot-as-the-default-in-the-boot-loader
[17:58] <shaker_> hi
[17:58] <natsu> bennypr0fane, this must help
[17:59] <natsu> shaker_, hi,whats the problem?
[18:01] <adnauseam> salut, do you guys tihnk btrfs is ready for production if one it use ubuntu for some containers and virtualization ?
[18:01] <Guest85405> depends
[18:01] <Guest85405> where were you when the fire nation attack, adnauseam?
[18:02] <adnauseam> :p
[18:02] <mJayk_> adnauseam, would not concider it production ready, but that is a personal choice you have to make after weighing up all the facts
[18:02] <arla> Yo. Ubuntu 14.04. How can set the key combination AltGr+W to type the letter ŭ without changing the keyboard layout chosen in System Settings?
[18:03] <bennypr0fane> natsu: got it, thanks!
[18:03] <desperate_joe> ubuntu 14, HP laptop 64bit... noob ... is it possible to make the desktop appear lika a smartphone with apps?
[18:03] <adnauseam> mJayk_: i'll be testing it to boot, to see if it fits our needs. i was wondering if anyone here uses it and if there are some ubuntu clusters out there using it in production
[18:04] <natsu> bennypr0fane, yo...welcome :)
[18:04] <matt__> Hey! I've been trying to get my Analog output/Input ports working, I have tried every possible way on the forums, But my computer doesnt seem to react or do anything, Any suggestions?
[18:09] <adnauseam> mJayk_: do you think zfs on linux is more mature than btrfs currently?
[18:16] <intx> dd
[18:19] <lucaslinux> test
[18:19] <mJayk_> hi
[18:19] <lucaslinux> hi
[18:21] <natsu> lucaslinux, hi anything wrong?
[18:21] <sajan> wafflejock,
[18:21] <lucaslinux> no thanks for asking
[18:21] <lucaslinux> just trying irc in irssi
[18:21] <natsu> ok
[18:22] <sajan> hello friends, i am using linux mint 17 32 bit......i have installed abode flash player and even in some sites i am not able to load the page
[18:22] <sajan> can anyone help me
[18:22] <sajan> ???
[18:22] <DJones> !mint | sajan
[18:23] <natsu> sajan,search for plugins
[18:23] <metaspike> use html heh
[18:23] <metaspike> 5
[18:28] <thumpba> im unable to run bundle install
[18:28] <thumpba> i get Bundler::GemfileNotFound
[18:29] <SpNg> Issues with a Cisco IPSec VPN connection. I’m able to connect using VPNC, but I’m not able to ping any hosts. On another machine I can ping everything fine. Any ideas?
[18:30] <trism> thumpba: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15393462/what-can-i-do-about-a-bundlergemfilenotfound-error
[18:31] <livingegg> fnord
[18:31] <natsu> any command for switching laptop off after a certain time?
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> natsu  sleep [time you want]; sudo shutdown -h now
[18:33] <natsu> MonkeyDust,  not now ,maybe after time say 't'
[18:34] <tommaso> hi there
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> natsu  like so: sleep 10; sudo shutdown -h now    <-- 10 seconds
[18:35] <tommaso> could i ask you some question about ubuntu? i ve got some problems
[18:36] <sershei_> Buenas, necesitaría conocer algo como Works para windows que funcione en Ubuntu. Gracias
[18:36] <SchrodingersScat> tommaso: feel free to ask, if anyone knows and sees they might chime in
[18:36] <natsu> MonkeyDust, yes ok
[18:36] <natsu> sershei_, english
[18:36] <tommaso> some days ago i ve installed Blender 2.71beta using some additional ppa (not official i mean)
[18:36] <SchrodingersScat> !es
[18:38] <tommaso> now i notice that the name of blender in the column in the left is Blender 2.71+2.71 git42444189.1222cgg
[18:38] <tommaso> but i would change it into Blender 2.71 and stop
[18:39] <sershei_> Hello, i need a program like Works in WinVista for Ubuntu. Thanks and sorry for my bad english
[18:39] <tommaso> how can i do that?
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> sershei_  and what is it supposed to do?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> ah Works is a program
[18:40] <sershei_> MonkeyDust, it's very difficult to explain in english.
[18:40] <sershei_> yes MonkeyDust
[18:40] <natsu> sershei_, Works?what is that?
[18:40] <sershei_> data base natsu
[18:41] <st0rmy> hello
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> sershei_  better go to a channel where you can explain your problem or question
[18:42] <sershei_> MonkeyDust, can u help me with channel pls?
[18:42] <st0rmy> I am planing to install ubuntu latest on my laptop , but i have my doubts about hyperd graphics card
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> sershei_  type /j #ubuntu-es
[18:42] <st0rmy> does anyone have a problem with hyper graphics and ubuntu ?
[18:42] <sershei_> thanks MonkeyDust
[18:45] <asarih> hello. I would like to find an older openjdk-7-jdk (and friends) package than 7u65. I looked in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openjdk-7/ but that doesn't seem to exist. Is there a way?
[18:47] <roronoa> asarih,type sudo apt-get install openjdk then press tab and you can find the packages if it exists
[18:48] <kali-rao> hi
[18:48] <roronoa> hi,kali-rao
[18:49] <kali-rao> whts up roronoa??
[18:49] <roronoa> kali-rao, anything wrong?
[18:49] <asarih> roronoa: thank you for the suggestion. but it gives me this error:
[18:50] <asarih> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pSdxDgiN
[18:50] <kali-rao> nop all is fine <roronoa> th
[18:50] <kali-rao> thx
[18:50] <asarih> or am I supposed to hit <tab> before <return>?
[18:50] <asarih> let me check…
[18:50] <roronoa> asarih,yes
[18:50] <asarih> nope. at least this bash doesn't let me.
[18:51] <OerHeks> asarih, you would need an archive ppa for that, https://launchpad.net/~openjdk-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa not sure why you want an unsafe jdk
[18:51] <shant> eu.undernet.org
[18:51] <asarih> OerHeks: thanks. funny you should ask: I'm trying to resolve https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/2725.
[18:51] <tommaso>    how can i change the name of a software?
[18:52] <Beldar> tommaso, design it yourself and name it.
[18:52] <kali-rao> lol elder
[18:53] <roronoa> tommaso, i dont think you can rename a proprietary software
[18:53] <tommaso> the software is blender
[18:53] <st0rmy> .o/
[18:53] <st0rmy> any one with experience on hyperd graphics and ubuntu ?
[18:56] <tommaso> when i leave the mouse above the icon on the left bar a comic strip appears with the name of the software
[18:56] <tommaso> how can i change that name
[18:57] <tommaso> now it' s Blender 2.71 and some numbers
[18:57] <tommaso> but i' d like to change that name
[18:58] <john_doe_jr> how do I convert postscript to html?
[18:59] <trism> tommaso: that's in the .desktop file, copy /usr/share/applications/blender.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/blender.desktop and edit the Name= line
[19:00] <trism> tommaso: you'll have to remove and add blender back to the panel if you have it pinned there
 check this link https://cloudconvert.org/ps-to-html
[19:00] <tommaso> ok now i'll try
[19:00] <trism> tommaso: sometimes you have to logout/login again to see the changes too
[19:00] <tommaso> ok
[19:01] <WispaBar> Um. Could I ask about compatability between versions of Ubuntu. I'm looking into modding a Steam game to give it a launcher, which it has in Windows but not in Linux. Problem is the launcher is made for 12.10. I'm wondering if the program and the instructions given to install it will work very well in Ubuntu 14.04.
[19:02] <AlexPortable> Hi
[19:02] <AlexPortable> How do I change the name of an usb stick?
[19:02] <vicente> WispaBar: there is really no way of telling if it will work until you execute the game.. perhaps it would be best to run from a terminal and take note of any warning or error messages?
[19:03] <WispaBar> Maybe. The launcher is here. https://github.com/sxxx/Qt-CK2-Launcher
[19:04] <WispaBar> Oh wait.
[19:04] <WispaBar> Looks as if a launcher has been added since the last time I played lol.
[19:04] <WispaBar> Nevermind. Thanks a lot anyway :)
[19:07] <lclark> Hello.  The "configure apt" step of the installer wouldn't execute.  I skipped it and booted the system, but apt isn't configured.
[19:07] <lclark> Is there a way to run the "configure apt" step of the installer from a booted system?  Or somethine equivalent?
[19:15] <cynicallemon> lclark: how do you know apt isnt configured, what have you done to test this?
[19:15] <lclark> sources.list contains the default reference to the CD-ROM
[19:16] <lclark> I just added a couple entries by hand, updating now.
[19:16] <Beldar> lclark, I tink I would run a sum check on the install medium the iso and  dvd/usb, could be bad and who knows what else is broken
[19:16] <Beldar> think*
[19:16] <Farva> Hello everyone. I need to setup a dev group for my server, I need to give them read/write/execute perms through sftp as well as access to backend server management like DNS and vIP modification etc. What perms are best for something like this?
[19:17] <lclark> Beldar: I know the install medium is screwed up a bit; the partition table was overwritten during a previous install.  But this is remote, so I'm trying to make due.
[19:17] <harris> ,
[19:18] <Beldar> lclark, famous last words. ;)
[19:18] <harris> hi
[19:18] <lclark> Worst case scenario I have onsite create a new flash drive.
[19:18] <harris> ok
[19:18] <lclark> But that can't happen until tomorrow.
[19:19] <harris> if yo dont have steam visit www.steam downlaod .com
[19:19] <Farva> I need to setup a dev group for my server, I need to give them read/write/execute perms for specific directories, sftp access, as well as access to backend server management like DNS and vIP modification etc. What perms are best for something like this?
[19:19] <harris> ok
[19:20] <harris> hi xar
[19:22] <ronin> should this work %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[19:22] <ronin> I would like to use sudo without password
[19:22] <ronin> I'm in the admin group
[19:22] <ronin> doesnt work
[19:22] <ronin> asks Every time
[19:23] <Beldar> ronin, Why would you have no password, it is not supported here.
[19:23] <Farva> I need to setup a dev group for my server, I need to give them read/write/execute perms through sftp as well as access to backend server management like DNS and vIP modification etc. What perms are best for something like this?
[19:24] <Farva> I really jumped in with 2 feet here so I could use some advice xD
[19:24] <ronin> Beldar, ?
[19:24] <Beldar> simple question and answer
[19:24] <ronin> Beldar, it's annoying to write password 100 times a day
[19:24] <ronin> :D
[19:25] <vitimiti> What about you sudo su?
[19:25] <Beldar> buck up that is your protection get used to it.
[19:25] <ni1s> ronin, try loggin out and logging in again
[19:25] <ronin> vitimiti, then I lose my environment
[19:25] <ni1s> ronin, as in, restart your session
[19:25] <ronin> vitimiti, then I'm "root"
[19:25] <Beldar> bad support option in so many ways
[19:25] <ronin> ni1s, i tried
[19:26] <ronin> you mean logout whole ubuntu
[19:26] <ronin> i tried also service sudo restart
[19:26] <ronin> and restarting virtual console
[19:26] <vitimiti> Then, type the password several times, man
[19:27] <ni1s> ronin, no login with that users on some tty you forgot?
[19:27] <ronin> I closed each console
[19:27] <ronin> :(
[19:27] <ni1s> ronin, also try %admin ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[19:28] <ronin> no difference
[19:28] <ronin> maybe it's disabled in the kernel
[19:30] <ronin> I think I tried it also something like few years ago without getting it working
[19:31] <Beldar> ronin, There is a timeout once you have used sudo in the cli, if you are running a password 100 times a day, 4 times an hour you are just barely missing that time out for continued sudo without additional password input. Big security risk and not supported here none the less.
[19:32] <ni1s> ronin, and you are editing this with 'sudo visudo'
[19:32] <ronin> yup
[19:32] <JoeIsenberg> not sure if this is the right channel, but I need some help getting IP injection to work from a HyperV host in 12.04
[19:32] <Beldar> vitimiti, ni1s That is not supported here why are you participating?
[19:33] <vitimiti> Beldar, I'm telling him to use sudo, though
[19:34] <ni1s> ronin, well I'm out of ideas
[19:34] <Beldar> JoeIsenberg, hyper -v is a windows virtual, I would look for MS pages on this.
[19:35] <ronin> ni1s, maybe it's disabled in the core
[19:35] <ronin> :D
[19:36] <vitimiti> That sounds like something good to have
[19:36] <ni1s> ronin, its almost surely not
[19:36] <Beldar> ronin, Honestly if you can't even edit that you hardly show the skills to run without a password, it is a dumb idea all around.
[19:37] <ni1s> ronin, what does sudo -l tell you?
[19:37] <Beldar> that is simple stuff
[19:38] <Chaos_Zero> how can I make a script I added to /etc/init NOT start on startup but still be startable with the "service" command?
[19:40] <jhutchins> Chaos_Zero: Don't enable it.
[19:41] <jhutchins> Chaos_Zero: That's not what /etc/init.d/ is for though.
[19:41] <ni1s> Chaos_Zero, IIRC, echo "manual" > /etc/init/my_script.override
[19:41] <Beldar> ronin, There are OS made to run how you want a root account already the, for example fedora or debian, running ubuntu this way is a bad idea it's not in the design and will screw up permissions eventually.
[19:41] <perre> oii
[19:41] <Chaos_Zero> it seems to run on startup by default
[19:42] <cynicallemon> Chaos_Zero: update-rc.d <service> disable  ?
[19:42] <ronin> it's only a risk if someone gets to my computer physically
[19:42] <ronin> or through ssh
[19:42] <ronin> ssh password = secure
[19:42] <Beldar> ronin, Not true, we had this conversation before you are clueless.
[19:42] <jhutchins> Chaos_Zero: Kinda depends which release you're on.
[19:43] <k1l_> ronin: oh well, pw login is never secure
[19:43] <ni1s> ronin, sudo -ll(double L) should tell you what your user can or can't do with sudo
[19:43] <jhutchins> Chaos_Zero: If it's not meant to run at startup though, you're better off putting it in somewhere like /usr/local.
[19:43] <k1l_> Chaos_Zero: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-rc.d.8.html
[19:44] <k1l_> you can set the levels on which it should start manually with that command
[19:44] <perre> can i add // in front of a line with sed ?
[19:44] <spikedbanana> Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone has experience with 14.04 on a macbook air (mid) 2012, I have installed most of the packages for the fans (macfantel, sensors, etc) but my machine still seems to run. I have configured mactelfan to run at min 3500.
[19:44] <spikedbanana> run hot***
[19:45] <ronin> Beldar, I sure am, but yeah, maybe I should just login with sudo -i
[19:45] <AlexPortable> How do I change the name of an usb stick?
[19:46] <AlexPortable> the script im using expects me to put in a volume stick thats called XYZ12
[19:47] <Beldar> ronin, Not really a good idea, in the end it is a permissions issue. So what brought you to linux could it be infections in windows?
[19:48] <ronin> not good idea to login with sudo -i?
[19:48] <ronin> I don't understand
[19:48] <ronin> :(
[19:49] <k1l_> ronin: why do you want to be root in the first place?
[19:49] <ronin> k1l_, becase I'm quite often configuring something that needs root
[19:50] <ronin> and im lazy to write sudo -i every time so is it dangerous to keep terminal open with root access
[19:50] <ni1s> AlexPortable, depends on the filesystem, if its FAT?
[19:50] <k1l_> ronin: that is just a bad idea from the start.
[19:51] <k1l_> ronin: it is like a loaded weapon and the finger on the trigger, just because there maybe will be some day some situation where you need that. but all other time it will make a mess.
[19:51] <SpaghettiCat> ronin:  Yes because changes you make to your system that require root can be quite devastating if you don't know what you're doing. Better that you know the change you're about to make is powerful and to double check
[19:51] <thegoat> anyone here running dovecot under 14.04 lts.  i just did a do-release upgrade to go from 12.04 to 14.04 and now dovecot seems to be borked with the following error: Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: inbox=yes namespace missing
[19:52] <SpaghettiCat> ronin:  Besides after you use sudo once in a terminal, it will remember and won't ask you for the password to all further sudo commands for the next X minutes
[19:52] <k1l_> ronin: ubuntu is setup with the idea that the user doesnt need to be root all the time. in the very few situations you need that you can use sudo (or sudi -i if its for several commands and you dont want to type sudo infront of all). but to be permanent root is just plain stupid
[19:53] <JoeIsenberg> Beldar, I have it working on the Hyper-V side. It's in the guest where it doesn't work. It works on 14.04 guests, but not 12.04
[19:53] <k1l_> it is like not locking your car, because you want to get in the next day anyway :)
[19:53] <SpaghettiCat> ronin:  make an alias in your .bashrc so that `s` is mapped to `sudo`. Easy peasy
[19:54] <ronin> the harder part is that my password is 15 chars long
[19:54] <Beldar> JoeIsenberg, And the host is windows correct?
[19:54] <k1l_> ronin: sudo remembers your pw for "some time"
[19:54] <JoeIsenberg> Yes. the host is windows. the guest is Ubuntu
[19:54] <ronin> k1l_, maybe ill change that time
[19:54] <ronin> at least a bit safer than using no passw
[19:55] <k1l_> ronin: i think you are stuck with the old bad windows habbit to be the super-user all the time
[19:55] <k1l_> that was one issue that lead to that virus mess in windows.
[19:55] <SpaghettiCat> ronin:  If you don't use SSH you can make your p/w shorter and it won't make a difference security-wise AFAIK
[19:56] <ronin> k1l_, I have never used windows in my life
[19:56] <ronin> my father bought me apple when i was a teenager :(
[19:56] <JoeIsenberg> Beldar, my real problem is I'm trying to find the hv_kvp_daemon compiled for the backported trusty kernel
[19:56] <AlexPortable> How do I change the name of an usb stick? the script im using expects me to put in a volume stick thats called XYZ12
[19:56] <ronin> i wanted windows but he said: well boy, no..
[19:56] <Beldar> JoeIsenberg, I have no idea.
[19:56] <ronin> but yes, maybe I don't need root access
[19:56] <k1l_> ok, then something other made you that bad habbit :)
[19:56] <ronin> maybe the 5min limit is just annoying
[19:56] <ronin> maybe 10 or 15 would be better
[19:57] <ronin> then I wanted commodore 64, but my father said, well boy no, let's buy amiga 500
[19:57] <ronin> tragic life
[19:57] <Beldar> ronin, What you may have not learned is living outside the minute, I.E. being prepared correctly, for example your dad buys car insurance in case there is an accident.
[19:58] <stevendumani> hello ubuntu! I have this problem with flash player in Chromium - 14.04 LTS, I did
[19:58] <stevendumani> sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[19:58] <stevendumani> sudo apt-get update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[19:58] <stevendumani> but no joy...
[19:58] <SpaghettiCat> ronin:  Amiga had better games, who would want the c64?!
[19:58] <ronin> populous was cool yeah
[19:58] <thegoat> nm figured out my dovecot issue
[19:58] <ronin> and syndicate
[19:58] <spikedbanana> I believe pepper is in a ppa stevendumani
[19:59] <Beldar> stevendumani, Chrome has pepper built in, you can use FF with it or chromium.
[19:59] <ajalkane> there was plenty great C-64 games that were never ported to Amiga :)
[19:59] <Beldar> pepper flash is in the 14.04 ubuntu repos
[20:00] <SpaghettiCat> ajalkane:  why port? From a gaming perspective C64 is a generation behind the amiga
[20:00] <stevendumani> Beldar http://itsfoss.com/fix-flash-player-issue-chromium-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[20:00] <ajalkane> I had it much worse. I said, hey poppa, I wanna have C-64. He said, no son, we're gonna get Sharp MZ-800
[20:00] <guntbert> ronin: how to change that timeout: http://lifehacker.com/make-sudo-sessions-last-longer-in-linux-1221545774
[20:00] <ronin> Beldar, yes, I'm just trying to make everything as easy as possible, but yeah I understand the security issue. I'm just too blue-eyed and think: "yeah, nobody will steal my car if i leave the doors open"
[20:00] <stevendumani> Beldar I believe it's only the shockwave that is not working. try miniclip.com pool8 game
[20:01] <ajalkane> SpaghettiCat: true that, but great game is a great game regardless of generation of hardware
[20:01] <SpaghettiCat> ajalkane:  that's because you called your father "poppa"
[20:01] <SpaghettiCat> fyi it means "butt" in russian
[20:01] <pbx> how can i assign a key shortcut (or a gnome-do action) to switching to a different account? (i.e. as if i had selected it from the menu in the upper right)
[20:01] <ronin> pepper what? :D
[20:01] <SpaghettiCat> ajalkane:  if I was to play 1 C64 game in my life which should it be?
[20:01] <ronin> I'm I in a cooking channel or no :/
[20:01] <guntbert> !ot | SpaghettiCat
[20:02] <ajalkane> Heh, luckily I was using finnish. But perhaps I used some other word finnish word in my sentence that could mean something nasty in russian (I've learned there's plenty such words in finnish)
[20:02] <Beldar> stevendumani, I'm not a gamer, would not where to start on that link.
[20:03] <stevendumani> Beldar http://www.miniclip.com/games/8-ball-pool-multiplayer/en/#t-n-H
[20:03] <ajalkane> SpaghettiCat: hard to say, as time and youth colors memories - they're probably not as great games as they felt back then. Last Ninja, one of the verisons of Mario Bros (with two players), Exploding Fist etc.
[20:03] <guntbert> ajalkane: back to support please
[20:04] <stevendumani> Beldar btw I can't reach http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ in case i have to download it from there
[20:04] <ronin> ajalkane, #amiga
[20:05] <ajalkane> sorry guntbert, didn't actually even notice what channel I was on. Will stop now blabbering about this tuff here.
[20:06] <Beldar> stevendumani, You can't install a up to date flash from adobe, you are far from understanding, and I am not going to lay out where and why, nor sign up to a gaming website with my email when I'm not even a gamer because you are not able to understand.
[20:06] <Beldar> I bid you adieu. ;)
[20:09] <stevendumani> Beldar: I understand that I can't install an up-to-date flash player from adobe because I'm using linux, but in the other hand, I can't even reach that site because I'm in Syria and adobe decided to forbid it, also, you don't need to sign in with anything, you can play as a guest, sorry for bothering you but if you have any additional info about this issue then tell me.
[20:10] <ronin> interesting that my flash player works in firefox but not in chromium
[20:10] <ronin> but i dont mind, i dont want to support google or even the os version of their browser
[20:10] <vicente> /quit
[20:12] <Impaloo> Hey all. I'm having problem restarting the sshd service on my VPS running Ubuntu 14.04. I've tried `kill <pid> -HUP`, as well as `reload ssh`. But it doesn't seem to reload..
[20:12] <eeee> Impaloo: maybe sudo service ssh restart ?
[20:13] <stevendumani> ronin if you're using 14.04 then that's why : http://itsfoss.com/fix-flash-player-issue-chromium-in-ubuntu-14-04/ however, I tried this solution but no joy
[20:14] <Impaloo> eeee: That seems to have restarted it, thanks.
[20:15] <eeee> np
[20:15] <Impaloo> eeee: How do I ensure that you can't login via shs as root using password?
[20:15] <pbx> no key shortcut tips for fast user switching eh?
[20:16] <SpaghettiCat> Impaloo:  there's an option in the sshd config something like DisableRoot
[20:16] <thegoat> Impaloo: PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:17] <ronin> stevendumani, 12.04 :(
[20:17] <thegoat> then restart sshd
[20:17] <Impaloo> thegoat: SpaghettiCat: I changed the PermitRootLogin option to "without-password". But when I try to connect from a machine without an authenticated key it prompts for a password
[20:17] <ronin> I'm afraid to upgrade my Xubuntu since the last two upgrades broke my os
[20:17] <Impaloo> But I can't seem to log in using password, it says denied.. Can I assume it's working?
[20:18] <SpaghettiCat> Impaloo:  try to connect as root user and supply the password
[20:18] <thegoat> Impaloo: it won't come back and say "root logins not allowed"
[20:18] <Impaloo> Ok, so it's working?
[20:18] <Impaloo> I just want to be 100% sure :)
[20:18] <SpaghettiCat> Impaloo:  try to connect as root user and supply the password
[20:19] <thegoat> impaloo: try to login as root with the password and see what happens
[20:19] <joseph_> hello world
[20:19] <Impaloo> login to try as root with the happens and see what password
[20:19] <Impaloo> :D
[20:19] <ronin> and also after Windows has been delivering updates that break everything I'm afraid even to upgrade my linux
[20:19] <Impaloo> SpaghettiCat: i did that but it simply says dnied
[20:19] <Impaloo> denied*
[20:19] <Impaloo> But should it even prompt for password if that option is disabled?
[20:19] <thegoat> ronin:  i just went from 12.04 LTS server to 14.04 and only ran into minor issues
[20:19] <SpaghettiCat> Impaloo:  if you're giving the correct password why aren't you convinced?
[20:20] <Impaloo> SpaghettiCat: I might have misspelled it or something
[20:20] <Impaloo> But anyways thanks for the help. It works as it should now (i hope)
[20:20] <ronin> what is the biggest new improvement in 14.04
[20:20] <ronin> i mean is there something new designed
[20:20] <ronin> ofc updates and drivers etc.
[20:21] <ronin> is there a ubuntu zit-zat channel on freenode
[20:23] <stevendumani> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8172144/
[20:24] <guntbert> ronin: zit-zat? maybe #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[20:24] <ronin> guntbert, thanks :)
[20:24] <thegoat> ronin: it's supposed to be faster, more dev on Unity, etc.
[20:25] <stevendumani> also, I changed my password during ubuntu restricted extras installation, (from the software center) and now I can't even remove them, it hangs, how can i fix this?
[20:25] <godbod> <a href=\"http://qt.nokia.com\">Nokia Qt DF</a>
[20:25] <sajan> wafflejock,
[20:29] <jhutchins> stevendumani: Changing your password doesn't have anything to do with software installation.
[20:30] <jhutchins> stevendumani: Do you have universe enabled?
[20:31] <stevendumani> jhutchins howcome? if the software is using the old password to authenticate as a sudoer?! it caused an installation failure. and yes I have universe enabled.
[20:31] <jhutchins> stevendumani: Once the authentication is done it's done.  It did NOT cause an installation failure.
[20:33] <jhutchins> stevendumani: You can try manually installing that package.
[20:34] <stevendumani> OK jhutchins, I did sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras --reinstall, and I hope it'll be fine, but what about this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8172144/ please? also, this http://itsfoss.com/fix-flash-player-issue-chromium-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[20:35] <jhutchins> stevendumani: Read it.  That's the package you need to reinstall. ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:36] <stevendumani> thank you jhutchins
[20:39] <iLICKwindows> hello out there
[20:42] <doctorpepper> hi guys !!!
[20:43] <stevendumani> I'm stuck in the Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer license agreement! <Ok> is not clickable
[20:44] <eeee> hi doctorpepper
[20:44] <doctorpepper> can anyone please help me, after a forced  reboot  because system hard lockup   my wired network card  is no longer detected by the system
[20:45] <stevendumani> let's face it: I didn't read the license agreement :(
[20:45] <stevendumani> and I accepted
[20:45] <genii> stevendumani: tab key and enter key
[20:45] <stevendumani> genii it was f12
[20:48] <genii> doctorpepper: So:  ifconfig      ...does not show eth0?
[20:48] <doctorpepper> yes
[20:49] <genii> doctorpepper: What happens if you try:  sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[20:49] <TJ-> doctorpepper: Does the system have alternate network connections?
[20:49] <doctorpepper> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[20:50] <doctorpepper> i have my wifi activated
[20:50] <TJ-> doctorpepper: Can you show us "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[20:51] <doctorpepper> TJ-:  is pastebinit a command
[20:52] <k1l_> !pastebinit | doctorpepper
[20:52] <TJ-> doctorpepper: Yes; most systems have it installed by default. If not "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[20:52] <eeee> doctorpepper: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:52] <eeee> it sends paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[20:53] <yorwos> um i just ran skype and it loaded invisible
[20:54] <stevendumani> can anyone tell me why this is happening? http://s27.postimg.org/6dvrekbv7/Untitled.png
[20:54] <yorwos> indicator plugin was off got it
[20:55] <guntbert> stevendumani: no, what is it?
[20:55] <doctorpepper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8172395/
[20:56] <doctorpepper> for the dmesg dump
[20:57] <stevendumani> guntbert please take a look at it, I don't know why conky starts normal and then becomes like this after a while http://s27.postimg.org/6dvrekbv7/Untitled.png
[20:58] <godbod> Hi
[20:58] <pshemeck> hello
[20:59] <adoniscik> while tweaking my system I accidentally stopped pulseaudio from starting automatically and now I see no audio devices. What should I run to fix it?
[20:59] <godbod> ntu :n
[21:00] <TJ-> doctorpepper: and now "sudo lspci -nnvvvk | pastebinit" please
[21:01] <godbod> Hello, what is the size of a int on a 64 bits machine?
[21:01] <doctorpepper> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8172437/
[21:03] <TJ-> godbod: Depends upon the compiler options but the standards generally suggest natural size of the architecture
[21:03] <godbod> I see. Thanks
[21:04] <godbod> Can it be the same for char ? why only int value can have different size according to architectures x
[21:04] <TJ-> doctorpepper: The Ethernet card has gone AWOL ... if it is a discrete card, try reseating it. If it is a port on the mobo, it has died, or firmware options have disabled it
[21:05] <doctorpepper> TJ-:  ok thanks for the help.
[21:05] <adoniscik> while tweaking my system I accidentally stopped pulseaudio from starting automatically and now I see no audio devices. How can I fix it?
[21:06] <TJ-> godbot "char" is the smallest word size a CPU can handle, generally the same as a byte - 8 bits
[21:06] <godbod> ntu :n
[21:06] <doctorpepper> TJ-:  by the way  i have a cable connected to the card  and the card  some green light like it active
[21:07] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:07] <TJ-> doctorpepper: That shows the port is connected. The problem is between the mobo's PCI bus and the card
[21:07] <zumba_addict> hey guys, I would like to know how much memory my application is using
[21:07] <zumba_addict> i tried pmap but not sure how to decipher the output
[21:08] <Fr0Zn> adoniscik: have you tried to sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[21:08] <doctorpepper> TJ-:  i gonna reboot  and see if the issue persist
[21:09] <adoniscik> Fr0Zn, it's already there
[21:09] <Fr0Zn> adoniscik: first purge it and then install it
[21:10] <Fr0Zn> adoniscik: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio #then# reinstall it
[21:12] <drags> can someone help me to find the correct place to enter nameserver information for statically configured wired connection in 12.04LTS? I have the nameservers configured in both in my /etc/network/interfaces file and configured in the network manager tray applet, however shortly after the network coming up the /etc/resolv.conf file is reduced to the comments about resolvconf(8)
[21:14] <adoniscik> Fr0Zn, that didn't work, even after restrating
[21:17] <Fr0Zn> adoniscik: check bootup aplications in settings
[21:18] <igor_44> Доброй ночи... Есть кто-нить на русском??
[21:18] <Fr0Zn> adoniscik: then try pulseaudio -D
[21:18] <TJ-> !ru | igor_44
[21:20] <jprs> drags: double check your syntax in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:20] <jprs> I think if you've got it wrong it'll just leave it blank
[21:21] <jprs> should be "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4"
[21:21] <igor_44> Спасибо большое (ubottu)
[21:21] <jprs> or whatever your servers re
[21:25] <Guest-66679> is there a good NAS solution for raspberry pi?
[21:26] <k1l_> Guest-66679: since there is no ubuntu for rasberry-pi its the wrong channel in here
[21:27] <sajan> wafflejock,
[21:27] <k1l_> !ru | igor_44
[21:32] <Bray90820_> Is ubuntu touch being developed for x86 chipset or onlyarm
[21:32] <Bray90820_> only arm
[21:33] <k1l_> Bray90820_: best is to ask the specialists in #ubuntu-touch
[21:33] <Bray90820_> oops my bad
[21:34] <adoniscik> when you add-apt-repository for the root, does it also affect other users?
[21:34] <Ben64> for the root?
[21:34] <adoniscik> as root
[21:34] <Ben64> well root is the only one who can do that
[21:34] <adoniscik> well that settles that
[21:34] <k1l_> adoniscik: that is systemwide and is for all users, yes
[21:36] <adoniscik> is it safe to add a site's www user to the sudoers?
[21:36] <Ben64> probably not
[21:40] <rohit> hi guys
[21:44] <rohit> exit
[21:55] <Guest3077> What I should do if dd tels me about I/O errors and terminates?
[21:56] <k1l_> Guest3077: use dd_rescue
[21:59] <NeedsHelpBad> Hi guys, I've inherited an old intel core 2 duo desktop and I decided to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 on it, I'm just wondering what normally is used on Servers for running VMs?
[22:00] <zumba_addict> hey guys, what's the difference between & and && on this command, echo test & echo test2    vs echo test && echo test2
[22:00] <Guest3077> & runs command in background.
[22:00] <Alex_ander> && runs the second command if first succeeds, i think
[22:00] <Guest3077> && runs next command if previous complected with zero status
[22:01] <TJ-> Gacnt: libvirt, virsh, and a wide range of other tools more suited for multi-server configurations
[22:01] <zumba_addict> i'm used to && but not &
[22:01] <Gacnt> TJ- Ok, thanks, I was reading about KVM
[22:01] <zumba_addict> it's my first time seeing &
[22:01] <Alex_ander> mine too
[22:01] <zumba_addict> ah, looks like the example I found makes it as a background
[22:01] <TJ-> Gacnt: libvirt will manage QEMU/KVM, LXC and Xen
[22:01] <zumba_addict> looks like incorrect response from author
[22:01] <Alex_ander> but running in background is interesting
[22:02] <zumba_addict> that's why i saw this, [1]+  Done                    echo test
[22:02] <jack> libc6-i386...huh
[22:02] <Gacnt> TJ- Okey doke, is it like a web-based GUI or something?
[22:02] <zumba_addict> i'll use && then
[22:02] <Gacnt> TJ- Or do you know of any with a web-based GUI, like VMWare had>
[22:02] <zumba_addict> found it here, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11102/cron-running-job-every-15-seconds
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Got a problem. I'm stuck in a login loop. Tried purging .Xauthority, no go. [ dmesg | tail ] gives me "systemd-logind: failed to abandon scope session-cX.scope" ($X is the X session). What do I do?
[22:03] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: Check .ICEauthority also .
[22:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om: Smashed that too, still doesn't work.
[22:03] <TJ-> Gacnt: It's a server; it uses the shell
[22:03] <k1l_> SonikkuAmerica: does all stuff in /home belong to user:user?
[22:04] <Gacnt> TJ- Yeah I know, but you know how like transmission-daemon supports Web based GUI over the network? That's what I meant.
[22:04] <Gacnt> Just for easier management
[22:05] <TJ-> Gacnt: Easier with command-line; scriptable, fast, easy for automated control and monitoring
[22:05] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l_: Just [ chown ]'ed everything in ~ just to make sure
[22:05] <Gacnt> TJ- Yeah maybe if you've been running Ubuntu for a few years and know all those things, I've only been playing with it for a few months off and on, but now that I have an old computer to run a server on I plan on learning more about it
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Lemme give it a go
[22:08] <Gacnt> TJ- So, sorry, do I google KVM Tutorial, QEMU Tutorial, Virsh tutorial?
[22:08] <Squ4lli> Hello can someone help me? I can't get my tv tuner working i've tried many things
[22:08] <k1l_> SonikkuAmerica: are you sure its a 14.04 issue?
[22:08] <compdoc> i think its called qemu-kvm
[22:08] <TJ-> Gacnt: libvirt has a GUI interface as well as virsh CLI, called "virt-manager", which can connect to remote hosts to manage them
[22:09] <compdoc> but should find stuff under any of those
[22:09] <Gacnt> TJ- Yeah I'm just reading through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293199
[22:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om, k1l_ : No such luck with either.
[22:10] <TJ-> Gacnt: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager
[22:10] <k1l_> SonikkuAmerica: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim/+bug/1359439  this seems to be a 14.10 issue. are you sure you are on 14.04?
[22:10] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l_: Oh duh, I keep forgetting, I should've told +1
[22:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Sorry for bugging y'all
[22:11] <k1l_> ok, see the linked bug from debian, too. if there is a solution/workaround
[22:12] <Gacnt> TJ- Thanks, but this seems to be a walk through using the GUI, I'll try to do best I can, maybe MAN virt-manager will help
[22:13] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: Well, I was scrambling how to proceed .. better auccess in +1 .
[22:13] <TJ-> Gacnt: virt manager is pretty self-explanatory.... it has wizards for creating guests and configuring their virtual hardware, and installation method
[22:13] <Bashing-om> success*
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> :D
[22:13] <Gacnt> TJ- Yeah, but I can't see the GUI from my Macbook :/ so I gotta do it all through terminal I would assume?
[22:14] <TJ-> Gacnt: Install a minimal Xubuntu in a VM on the Macbook, then use that to install/run virt-manager and connect it over the net to the server :)
[22:15] <Gacnt> TJ- Good idea, maybe I'll just partition a few gigs and install it directly
[22:17] <Gacnt> TJ- ssh -X user@linux-box then running virt-manager runs virt-manager through vnc
[22:17] <Squ4lli> Hello can someone help me? I can't get my tv tuner working i've tried many things but I can't find any channels with kaffeine
[22:17] <Gacnt> So now I have it running on my macbook :D yay
[22:18] <TJ-> Gacnt: Yes, it will
[22:19] <jprs> squ4lli: it might help if you provided more information about the card
[22:20] <Squ4lli> Yes it's a Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL, I've installed the firmware and it seems ok
[22:21] <danhedron> hi, will the trusty version of libnss3 ever be updated to whatever is required to make Netflix work in the Chrome unstable channel>
[22:21] <Squ4lli> Because the last line of dmesg | grep tda1004x is [37598.048017] tda1004x: found firmware revision 20 -- ok
[22:21] <danhedron> I tried to google around for information but I could only find articles about updating it to the 14.10 verison
[22:22] <frezix> hi, I'm now doing a netinstall and I'm now at this stage - http://imgur.com/ba9qcCc - how do I remove that partitioning scheme and start fresh?
[22:23] <jprs> squ4lli: not sure how good these are, but it looks like someone else has had this issue before.  Maybe this will work for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1751026.html
[22:24] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:24] <kostkon> danhedron, probably it won't. You really need to install the nwer version manually or update to 14.10 when the time comes
[22:25] <kostkon> update -> upgrade*
[22:25] <danhedron> ok
[22:25] <Squ4lli> thx jprs i will try
[22:25] <danhedron> is there any information on what the bug is? I couldn't even find any information on what the problem is
[22:25] <jprs> I'm no expert on tv cards, that's just my best google-fu
[22:25] <jprs> good luck
[22:29] <Gacnt> TJ- So I got everything running here I went through the install wizard picked Ubuntu ISO local but when I go to boot it, it tells me No Bootable Device
[22:46] <Sacryo> I installed drivers for my rtl8188ce but i still can't see 802.11n networks.  anyone have experience with this? I've been googling for about half an hour but haven't found anything
[22:50] <Gacnt> TJ- Everything is working now thanks a lot for the help.
[23:00] <woomi> How do I install BitCoin client in Ubuntu?
[23:01] <german_> hello
[23:01] <Poppabear> hello
[23:01] <sad> Hi
[23:01] <Poppabear> hiya
[23:02] <sad> i ve a problem
[23:02] <Poppabear> yay
[23:02] <german_> just tryin' IRC
[23:02] <sad> i cant open a tar gz file
[23:03] <Poppabear> tar zxvf filename.ext
[23:03] <Poppabear> that will extract the contents
[23:03] <german_> you can run tar with any option in the command line
[23:04] <sad> I go try it . Thanks
[23:10] <codeyman> is there a way to query the package in preinst to check if it contains a particular file or not (during .deb creation)
[23:14] <xcyclist> Say, on Ubuntu there is a junit command, but I don't see how to execute tests with it.  Given I can execute a test with java -cp /usr/share/java/junit4.jar:. org.junit.runner.JUnitCore TestEuclid, how would I use the shell junit command instead?
[23:17] <Pr0lific> Trying to find help to manage startup applications on 14.04
[23:29] <unkn-error> is it possible to see the password which one user is having from the root account?
[23:34] <eeee> unkn-error: why do you ask?
[23:34] <wrongplace> what do I use to crop the beginning of a movie?
[23:35] <OerHeks> wrongplace, time.
[23:37] <OerHeks> lightworks, cinerella, openshot, all fine movieeditors
[23:38] <unkn-error> eeee: I am curious, as when I installed openSUSE there was a question in the installer, on "how do you wish to encrypt your passwd, with AES, Twofish, BlowFish" but on ubuntu the installer is not asking this question
[23:39] <eeee> unkn-error: well no, the passwords are 1 way encrypted
[23:40] <unkn-error> eeee: I know that I can change my username password from the username or from the root account (sudo su) but if i give the root account to my employee for example, will him be able to see my user-name password which can also be the email passwd?
[23:40] <eeee> unkn-error: of course being root can allow him
[23:41] <unkn-error> eeee: so the passwd in ubuntu is encrypted by default?
[23:41] <eeee> yeah, but he could still get it easily
[23:41] <eeee> 1) gpu based hash cracking
[23:41] <eeee> 2) easily social engineer it out of you
[23:41] <eeee> like add a "password incorrect please reenter:" to your ~/.profile
[23:42] <unkn-error> hmm but that involves to install "exploit/cracking" stuff on the system
[23:42] <ubuntu292> hi, is there anybody here knowledgable in ddrescue or reasons surrounding why it may be running for a bit then freezing in the terminal?
[23:42] <eeee> unkn-error: he'd only need the /etc/shadow file for the hash cracking
[23:43] <unkn-error> eeee: okay, thank you very much
[23:43] <eeee> unkn-error: the please reenter, could be written in a couple lines
[23:43] <eeee> np
[23:48] <rypervenche> ubuntu292: I've used it before.
[23:48] <ubuntu292> ok pm :)
[23:57] <Hexagonite> Could anybody help me with my brightness issue?
[23:58] <Hexagonite> When I try to change it through my fn-keys it flashes black and nothing happens