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Tarzanhola, tengo problemas para instalarlo01:18
holstein!install | Tarzan01:18
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holstein!es01:18
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Unit193No leading space.01:19
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absk007when will lubuntu 14.10 beta be out?15:38
rafaellagunahttp://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2014/08/lubuntu-utopic-unicorn-1410-1.html15:39
rafaellaguna:)15:39
holstein!14.1015:39
ubottuUbuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the next development release of Ubuntu due for release in October 2014. Support in #ubuntu+1. For more info, see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136315:39
holsteinabsk007: sometimes, the flavors skip things, but, typically, they are on the same schedule.. and you can always find the current daily iso, and update to the current 14.10 lubuntu or flavor.. i would be in the appropriate channel for news15:40
absk007holstein, what would be that channel?15:41
holsteinabsk007: the one refernced above in  the link i had the bot provide, which is the official "support" for the upcoming, not-yet-released versions.. #ubuntu+115:42
absk007holstein, ok. thanks.15:43
holstein"support" in that case is not the same.. since its not released.. its more about getting news, and learning how to provide information15:43
absk007holstein, and if any bug reports?15:45
rafaellagunaabsk007, if you read the post of the lubuntu blog you have the links for feedback, ppc testing volunteers, and mailing lists joining15:47
rafaellagunaand we'd love you to join us and test it :)15:47
absk007holstein, actually, i need to know what exactly is the ubuntu update? What's the updates? the DE, the WM, or the apps?15:47
absk007rafaellaguna,15:47
rafaellagunayou mean details or package list?15:48
rafaellagunathink about that there will be no new apps or changes in Lubuntu desktop in 14.10, as it's a "bug fix" release15:48
holstein!14.10 | absk00715:49
ubottuabsk007: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the next development release of Ubuntu due for release in October 2014. Support in #ubuntu+1. For more info, see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136315:49
holsteinabsk007: the *exact* schedule is there ^15:49
holstein!bug15:50
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.15:50
holsteinabsk007: there can be no official beta release from some flavors15:54
holsteinabsk007: you would install the daily, and update, and you are on the most recent version...15:54
absk007holstein, stop! I'm asking what does Ubuntu mean15:54
holsteinabsk007: welcome to our community friend.. i am a volunteer, and i am welcome to help you in any way i can..15:55
holsteinabsk007: you are asking what does the word ubuntu mean?15:55
absk007i mean what does ubuntu mean. I know ubuntu is derived from Debian15:56
absk007but what does ubuntu mean?15:56
holsteinabsk007: the word is south african in origin.. " humanity or fellow feeling; kindness"15:56
absk007what's the difference between Debian and Ubuntu?15:56
holsteinabsk007: ubuntu is basically a snapshot of debian that is *very* customized.. the packages are maintained in the official ubuntu repositories.. no debian sources are used15:57
absk007holstein, please be more specific...like Kernel is same. What else?15:58
holsteinabsk007: the kernel is *not* the same15:58
holsteinabsk007: it is repackaged, as i said15:58
absk007holstein, repackaged? why?15:59
holsteinabsk007: for whate ever reason is needed..15:59
absk007holstein, what are the reasons?15:59
holsteinabsk007: if ubuntu wants to add a patch, or needs to maintain, for example, the older 12.04 kernel version, they can15:59
holsteinabsk007: the reasons are like this.. why would you want a different kernel? hardware support? support contract length? customization? many reason.. all of which are addressed by maintaining the kernel "in house"16:00
absk007ok.16:00
faLUCEhello, how can I disable asking for password after my pc is suspended?16:01
holsteinabsk007: things in the repos can be "fixed", or compatibility issues can be addressed.. patches that have not or will not make it upstream into the repos naturally in time16:01
faLUCEhello, how can I disable asking for password after my pc is suspended (on 14.04)16:02
absk007faLUCE, go to Light locker settings16:02
absk007faLUCE, sry! Power Manager settings16:02
faLUCEabsk007: then?16:03
absk007dig in & around16:03
faLUCEabsk007: I did not find the option I want16:03
faLUCE(disable password request)16:04
absk007holstein, thanks. please help faLUCE16:04
holsteinfaLUCE: i use a different locker, and disable the default one.. i use xtrlock16:07
faLUCEholstein: how can I disable the default one?16:07
holsteinfaLUCE: i just turn it off the settings16:07
holsteinfaLUCE: i'll try the power settings and the monitor settings.. then, the screensaver settings16:08
faLUCEholstein: let's try, but it seems a mess and quite obscure16:10
holstein!bug16:11
faLUCEholstein: I installed xtrlock. how can I enable it?16:11
holsteinfaLUCE: should be a lot like http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts16:11
faLUCEI don't want to stop screensaver locking the screen. I want it passwordless16:12
holsteinfaLUCE: installing and running xtrlock *doesnt* fix the current issue.. thats what i choose to use instead of the current screenlocker.. since i prefer it, and i dont use the screensaver or locker built in16:12
holsteinfaLUCE: i do not know how to lock the screen without a password, friend16:12
holsteinfaLUCE: the term "lock" when locking the screen implies password protected.. "locked"16:12
faLUCEholstein: so, the only way is to not lock the screen16:12
holsteinfaLUCE: lock = password protected16:13
faLUCEholstein: yes, I used bad words. so, I want to suspend the laptop but I don't want to lock the screen16:13
holsteinthe way i do what you are asking, which is not having the screen lock, is to disable the automatic internal one, and i use xtrlock manually when i want to lock16:13
holsteinfaLUCE: sure. nothing i suggest disables or addresses suspend16:14
holsteinfaLUCE: my machine suspends and resumes.. no locking.. when i want locking, i use xtrlock.. i got this by disabling the settings as linked above16:14
faLUCEnothing solved. again, again and again I have to fight for this stupid problem after reinstalling lubuntu  ;-(16:18
holsteinfaLUCE: its working here.. what have you tried?16:18
holsteinfaLUCE: all the settings in the menu locations? http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts ?16:18
holsteinon some machines, when i find this problematic, i'll just remove the screensaver/locker16:19
holsteinfaLUCE: as suggested near the bottom of the link.. sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver16:21
holsteini'll look and make sure its not pulling out anything important..16:21
faLUCEok solved, thanks16:21
faLUCEjust removed screensaver16:22
holsteinfaLUCE: be sure you make a note, or save a bookmark so that you can do that when you reinstall lubuntu in the future16:22
faLUCEholstein: it changes every time16:22
faLUCEthis is a serious issue that lubuntu team should consider16:22
faLUCEimho16:22
holsteinfaLUCE: "it" would need to be defined here16:22
faLUCEit = the procedure16:23
holsteinfaLUCE: if you are comparing different versions, that can be the issue16:23
holstein!bug16:23
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.16:23
holsteinfaLUCE: ^ thats still the "best" way for you to communicate what is not working for you and what you would like to address16:23
holsteinfaLUCE: lubuntu is a community project.. you are welcome to get involved and address what you like16:24
faLUCEholstein: I know ;-) thanks for your help16:25
holsteinthere are many things coming up that make "fixes" challenging for lubuntu, and derivitives/flavors.. and im not making excuses, but, just trying to say, the product is mostly working "as-advertised" and is a great product from a small team16:25
holsteinfaLUCE: sure.. enjoy!16:25
jxshxxAnyone care to address the Power Manager not showing up after upgrade to 14.04?16:26
holsteinjxshxx: sure16:31
holsteinjxshxx: you upgraded what to what? what isnt showing up where? do you have a bug report you are referencing? have you tried another user account to see if its just your user config?16:32
jxshxxholstein: Actually, I can't remember not if I upgraded from 13.10 or just installed 14.04 from the disk.  Either way, Power Manager has to be started manually16:41
holsteinjxshxx: i would just put an autostart for it in the autostart GUI16:41
holsteinjxshxx: there are checkboxes for using gnome servies that can help address issues one has with specific hardware16:41
holsteinhardware, or uses16:41
jxshxxholstein: Alright, I'll look that up.  Follow up question: If Power Manager isn't running, can that drain and/or keep the battery from charging?16:43
holsteinjxshxx: on hardware that is not intended to run linux, id say, there is little one can actually do for the battery life16:44
holsteinjxshxx: you can read about laptop modes and tricks.. but, the hardware vendor is the ideal candidate for providing that functionality.. and maybe, they are not interested16:45
jxshxxholstein: I ask because the battery had been fine, but suddenly had no life.  That's when I realized Power Manger was not running.  After starting it, it seems the battery is back where it ought to be16:46
holsteinjxshxx: sure.. the only obvious issue i see is the word "seems". you have many stated variables that i would want to work out..16:46
holsteinif you find the power manager is helping, i would use it.. you can autostart it16:47
jxshxxholstein: Alright, thanks!17:14
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ianorlinwxl I think the release notes for beta 1 are wrong the alt f2 run dialog bug is fixed in beta 1 at least from my testing of lvie session and my installed vm for i38617:55
switchtehbeatcan anyone help me? I have installed the ptpp vpn, I try and connect and I get connection failed?20:20
switchtehbeatnevermind, I forgot to allow my router to allow ptpp connections, oops! :/ :D20:25
Unit193Heh, contgrats on fixing it.20:28

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