[01:18] <Tarzan> hola, tengo problemas para instalarlo
[01:18] <holstein> !install | Tarzan
[01:18] <holstein> !es
[01:19] <Tarzan>  /join #ubuntu-es
[01:19] <Unit193> No leading space.
[15:38] <absk007> when will lubuntu 14.10 beta be out?
[15:39] <rafaellaguna> http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2014/08/lubuntu-utopic-unicorn-1410-1.html
[15:39] <rafaellaguna> :)
[15:39] <holstein> !14.10
[15:40] <holstein> absk007: sometimes, the flavors skip things, but, typically, they are on the same schedule.. and you can always find the current daily iso, and update to the current 14.10 lubuntu or flavor.. i would be in the appropriate channel for news
[15:41] <absk007> holstein, what would be that channel?
[15:42] <holstein> absk007: the one refernced above in  the link i had the bot provide, which is the official "support" for the upcoming, not-yet-released versions.. #ubuntu+1
[15:43] <absk007> holstein, ok. thanks.
[15:43] <holstein> "support" in that case is not the same.. since its not released.. its more about getting news, and learning how to provide information
[15:45] <absk007> holstein, and if any bug reports?
[15:47] <rafaellaguna> absk007, if you read the post of the lubuntu blog you have the links for feedback, ppc testing volunteers, and mailing lists joining
[15:47] <rafaellaguna> and we'd love you to join us and test it :)
[15:47] <absk007> holstein, actually, i need to know what exactly is the ubuntu update? What's the updates? the DE, the WM, or the apps?
[15:47] <absk007> rafaellaguna,
[15:48] <rafaellaguna> you mean details or package list?
[15:48] <rafaellaguna> think about that there will be no new apps or changes in Lubuntu desktop in 14.10, as it's a "bug fix" release
[15:49] <holstein> !14.10 | absk007
[15:49] <holstein> absk007: the *exact* schedule is there ^
[15:50] <holstein> !bug
[15:54] <holstein> absk007: there can be no official beta release from some flavors
[15:54] <holstein> absk007: you would install the daily, and update, and you are on the most recent version...
[15:54] <absk007> holstein, stop! I'm asking what does Ubuntu mean
[15:55] <holstein> absk007: welcome to our community friend.. i am a volunteer, and i am welcome to help you in any way i can..
[15:55] <holstein> absk007: you are asking what does the word ubuntu mean?
[15:56] <absk007> i mean what does ubuntu mean. I know ubuntu is derived from Debian
[15:56] <absk007> but what does ubuntu mean?
[15:56] <holstein> absk007: the word is south african in origin.. " humanity or fellow feeling; kindness"
[15:56] <absk007> what's the difference between Debian and Ubuntu?
[15:57] <holstein> absk007: ubuntu is basically a snapshot of debian that is *very* customized.. the packages are maintained in the official ubuntu repositories.. no debian sources are used
[15:58] <absk007> holstein, please be more specific...like Kernel is same. What else?
[15:58] <holstein> absk007: the kernel is *not* the same
[15:58] <holstein> absk007: it is repackaged, as i said
[15:59] <absk007> holstein, repackaged? why?
[15:59] <holstein> absk007: for whate ever reason is needed..
[15:59] <absk007> holstein, what are the reasons?
[15:59] <holstein> absk007: if ubuntu wants to add a patch, or needs to maintain, for example, the older 12.04 kernel version, they can
[16:00] <holstein> absk007: the reasons are like this.. why would you want a different kernel? hardware support? support contract length? customization? many reason.. all of which are addressed by maintaining the kernel "in house"
[16:00] <absk007> ok.
[16:01] <faLUCE> hello, how can I disable asking for password after my pc is suspended?
[16:01] <holstein> absk007: things in the repos can be "fixed", or compatibility issues can be addressed.. patches that have not or will not make it upstream into the repos naturally in time
[16:02] <faLUCE> hello, how can I disable asking for password after my pc is suspended (on 14.04)
[16:02] <absk007> faLUCE, go to Light locker settings
[16:02] <absk007> faLUCE, sry! Power Manager settings
[16:03] <faLUCE> absk007: then?
[16:03] <absk007> dig in & around
[16:03] <faLUCE> absk007: I did not find the option I want
[16:04] <faLUCE> (disable password request)
[16:04] <absk007> holstein, thanks. please help faLUCE
[16:07] <holstein> faLUCE: i use a different locker, and disable the default one.. i use xtrlock
[16:07] <faLUCE> holstein: how can I disable the default one?
[16:07] <holstein> faLUCE: i just turn it off the settings
[16:08] <holstein> faLUCE: i'll try the power settings and the monitor settings.. then, the screensaver settings
[16:10] <faLUCE> holstein: let's try, but it seems a mess and quite obscure
[16:11] <holstein> !bug
[16:11] <faLUCE> holstein: I installed xtrlock. how can I enable it?
[16:11] <holstein> faLUCE: should be a lot like http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts
[16:12] <faLUCE> I don't want to stop screensaver locking the screen. I want it passwordless
[16:12] <holstein> faLUCE: installing and running xtrlock *doesnt* fix the current issue.. thats what i choose to use instead of the current screenlocker.. since i prefer it, and i dont use the screensaver or locker built in
[16:12] <holstein> faLUCE: i do not know how to lock the screen without a password, friend
[16:12] <holstein> faLUCE: the term "lock" when locking the screen implies password protected.. "locked"
[16:12] <faLUCE> holstein: so, the only way is to not lock the screen
[16:13] <holstein> faLUCE: lock = password protected
[16:13] <faLUCE> holstein: yes, I used bad words. so, I want to suspend the laptop but I don't want to lock the screen
[16:13] <holstein> the way i do what you are asking, which is not having the screen lock, is to disable the automatic internal one, and i use xtrlock manually when i want to lock
[16:14] <holstein> faLUCE: sure. nothing i suggest disables or addresses suspend
[16:14] <holstein> faLUCE: my machine suspends and resumes.. no locking.. when i want locking, i use xtrlock.. i got this by disabling the settings as linked above
[16:18] <faLUCE> nothing solved. again, again and again I have to fight for this stupid problem after reinstalling lubuntu  ;-(
[16:18] <holstein> faLUCE: its working here.. what have you tried?
[16:18] <holstein> faLUCE: all the settings in the menu locations? http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts ?
[16:19] <holstein> on some machines, when i find this problematic, i'll just remove the screensaver/locker
[16:21] <holstein> faLUCE: as suggested near the bottom of the link.. sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver
[16:21] <holstein> i'll look and make sure its not pulling out anything important..
[16:21] <faLUCE> ok solved, thanks
[16:22] <faLUCE> just removed screensaver
[16:22] <holstein> faLUCE: be sure you make a note, or save a bookmark so that you can do that when you reinstall lubuntu in the future
[16:22] <faLUCE> holstein: it changes every time
[16:22] <faLUCE> this is a serious issue that lubuntu team should consider
[16:22] <faLUCE> imho
[16:22] <holstein> faLUCE: "it" would need to be defined here
[16:23] <faLUCE> it = the procedure
[16:23] <holstein> faLUCE: if you are comparing different versions, that can be the issue
[16:23] <holstein> !bug
[16:23] <holstein> faLUCE: ^ thats still the "best" way for you to communicate what is not working for you and what you would like to address
[16:24] <holstein> faLUCE: lubuntu is a community project.. you are welcome to get involved and address what you like
[16:25] <faLUCE> holstein: I know ;-) thanks for your help
[16:25] <holstein> there are many things coming up that make "fixes" challenging for lubuntu, and derivitives/flavors.. and im not making excuses, but, just trying to say, the product is mostly working "as-advertised" and is a great product from a small team
[16:25] <holstein> faLUCE: sure.. enjoy!
[16:26] <jxshxx> Anyone care to address the Power Manager not showing up after upgrade to 14.04?
[16:31] <holstein> jxshxx: sure
[16:32] <holstein> jxshxx: you upgraded what to what? what isnt showing up where? do you have a bug report you are referencing? have you tried another user account to see if its just your user config?
[16:41] <jxshxx> holstein: Actually, I can't remember not if I upgraded from 13.10 or just installed 14.04 from the disk.  Either way, Power Manager has to be started manually
[16:41] <holstein> jxshxx: i would just put an autostart for it in the autostart GUI
[16:41] <holstein> jxshxx: there are checkboxes for using gnome servies that can help address issues one has with specific hardware
[16:41] <holstein> hardware, or uses
[16:43] <jxshxx> holstein: Alright, I'll look that up.  Follow up question: If Power Manager isn't running, can that drain and/or keep the battery from charging?
[16:44] <holstein> jxshxx: on hardware that is not intended to run linux, id say, there is little one can actually do for the battery life
[16:45] <holstein> jxshxx: you can read about laptop modes and tricks.. but, the hardware vendor is the ideal candidate for providing that functionality.. and maybe, they are not interested
[16:46] <jxshxx> holstein: I ask because the battery had been fine, but suddenly had no life.  That's when I realized Power Manger was not running.  After starting it, it seems the battery is back where it ought to be
[16:46] <holstein> jxshxx: sure.. the only obvious issue i see is the word "seems". you have many stated variables that i would want to work out..
[16:47] <holstein> if you find the power manager is helping, i would use it.. you can autostart it
[17:14] <jxshxx> holstein: Alright, thanks!
[17:55] <ianorlin> wxl I think the release notes for beta 1 are wrong the alt f2 run dialog bug is fixed in beta 1 at least from my testing of lvie session and my installed vm for i386
[20:20] <switchtehbeat> can anyone help me? I have installed the ptpp vpn, I try and connect and I get connection failed?
[20:25] <switchtehbeat> nevermind, I forgot to allow my router to allow ptpp connections, oops! :/ :D
[20:28] <Unit193> Heh, contgrats on fixing it.