[09:32] <k1l> ok, just tested a fresh linuxmint. hexchat connects automatic to spotchat and the mint channels there. so every mint user comming to #ubuntu does this on purpose
[09:33] <bazhang> nice , thanks for doing that k1l
[09:37] <ikonia> they often discuss it in the mint channel
[09:38] <ikonia> the mint channels are very poor
[09:38] <ikonia> they are trying to have an ubuntu style "support" / "non-support" channel
[09:38] <ikonia> and trying really hard to have a friendly channel policy
[09:38] <ikonia> the issue is there is a.) almost no-one in there b.) the people in there are very weak, and you can't tell them they are wrong as that's not friendly
[09:38] <ikonia> so the support quality in there as the norm is pretty poor
[09:39] <ikonia> so you often see people ask in #linuxmint-help, get no/poor response, then ask in #linuxmint-chat get told either the same or "linux mint support is poor so try #ubuntu"
[09:39] <ikonia> or they rage and say "this is why mint support sucks, I'll try #ubuntu as mint is based on ubuntu"
[09:39] <ikonia> I've been watching it for a few weeks now to get an idea of how many are deciding to use #ubuntu and how many are pushed/suggested
[09:44] <k1l> well, i dont want to judge about their standard of support. but if they push the users to get help in #ubuntu or the user come to #ubuntu because they dont feel helped in their channels i dont think that is going to help them build a solid community
[09:46] <ikonia> it's not
[09:46] <ikonia> it's a very small group
[09:47] <ikonia> (from an IRC point of view)
[09:47] <ikonia> their forums seem to be more active, but not great either
[19:17] <bazhang> *!*@mysterious.mikoto-ura.be  <---- meepsheep again
[19:22] <io> ahh. I should just make the ban infinite in that case