[04:45] <pitti> Good morning
[06:15] <dkessel> good morning :)
[07:59] <pitti> jibel: so, we did get some fallout from proxy (gcc upload should have uncovered most of them :) )
[07:59] <pitti> but indeed better to fix those
[14:54] <Nothing_Much> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/ubuntu-installer-bug-wipes-partitions#disqus_thread I think this bug should get fixed soon.
[14:57] <elfy> is that a statement or a comment?
[14:59] <knome> Nothing_Much, i think patches are welcome :)
[15:00] <jpds_> Nothing_Much: Blog posts are not Launchpad bug reports.
[15:00] <knome> well, bug 1325786 for linux mint
[15:00] <knome> and it's fixed for them, so if it is in ubuntu and considered a bug, it should be relatively easy to land the patch
[15:01] <jpds_> Right, but there's no Ubuntu task on that bug.
[15:01] <Nothing_Much> Well it's this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 But I thought I linked to the disqus comments, there should be some explanation about this bug and stuff.
[15:02] <knome> right, so it's assigned. good. now wait for it to be fixed.
[15:06] <elfy> was assigned 2nd April
[15:06] <Nothing_Much> knome: Well a reassurance of WHEN it'll get fixed would be nice
[15:06] <elfy> but heyho - I can't fix it, so will wait
[15:07] <Nothing_Much> elfy: lack of knowledge or is there something else that's keeping you from fixing it?
[15:07] <Nothing_Much> erm.. "lack of knowledge" sounds nasty, lemme think of something else
[15:08] <elfy> knowledge and interest - I know which option to pick on the installer ;)
[15:08] <elfy> and frankly - if the wording gets changed - which is all that needs to happen
[15:08] <Nothing_Much> the "reinstall" option may not exist anymore
[15:09] <elfy> someone will STILL get it wrong and blame everyone but themself
[15:09] <jpds_> elfy / Nothing_Much: Poking people about it.
[15:09] <jpds_> "If the text read something like “Erase entire hard drive and reinstall Ubuntu” expectations would be set accordingly."
[15:09] <elfy> jpds_: don't involve me :)
[15:09] <Nothing_Much> That sounds better
[15:09] <jpds_> That's what I seem to recall it says.. I installed my laptop earlier this week.
[15:10] <Nothing_Much> But that may not have been on 13.10
[15:10] <elfy> jpds_: and yes - but even so, someone somewhere will get it wrong and blame everyone but them
[15:10] <jpds_> People still use that?
[15:10] <elfy> no idea - I don't even use 14.04 anymore lol
[15:11] <Nothing_Much> jpds_: I spoke to someone who was on LM 14, which is based on 12.10, yes there are some people who either have really bad internet or are just lazy enough to use EOL distros
[15:11] <jpds_> ...
[15:11] <elfy> indeed
[15:12] <Nothing_Much> It's crazy, yes; however the bugreport was from Dec. 2013 and he installed 13.10 and it may not have said that phrase which may or may not be in 14.04, lemme check it out on 14.04.1 on a VM install
[16:43] <balloons> elopio, just fyi, seems jenkins is getting the same error as the dashboard, so reminders mp's are stuck too: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/updateStrings/+merge/231125
[16:47] <elopio> balloons: oh, so maybe I can get the error on my desktop.
[16:47] <elopio> it seems to fail while deleting the account.
[16:49] <balloons> elopio, yes, that means you can debug on the desktop
[17:54] <knome> Nothing_Much, there's never any scheduled dates for bugfixes. it's fixed when the assignee has had enough time to triage and fix it.
[18:53] <teward> do we have any utopic daily images yet?
[18:54] <elfy> yea
[18:54] <knome> for a long time
[18:55] <teward> the fact i haven't had internet access that's reliable makes it hard to check things :p
[18:55] <teward> blame comcast for that >.>
[18:55] <teward> NOW i have 100 Mbps so i'm happy :P
[20:13] <balloons> ubuntu-qa, anyone want to have a peek at https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-terminal-app/ap-restruct/+merge/232748?
[20:17] <robotfuel> balloons: I'll look
[20:21] <robotfuel> balloons: from a quick look I see that class DbMan should be moved in to it's own helper file. It would be nice if the helpers also had some tests.
[20:26] <robotfuel> balloons: I take that back it's probably ok there since it's not in the test/__init__.py anymore
[20:28] <balloons> yea, I could split it out I guess.. I also split the tests up inside test_terminal.py but didn't make them seperate files
[20:28] <balloons> the helpers need upstream helpers :-(
[20:34] <robotfuel> balloons: it seems like all other projects have a custom_proxy_objects or emulator file and then a helper file. I think they should be separate files like other projects to keep them all similar.
[20:34] <robotfuel> balloons: it helps with debugging if there are issues as well.
[20:36] <balloons> robotfuel, sure. So you want me to split just the DbMan class out or ?
[20:36] <balloons> you'll notice I killed the 'emulators.py' file
[20:37] <elfy> you almost got me to look and see - then I saw someone talking about foo.py ...
[20:40] <robotfuel> balloons: a _custom_proxy_objects and a helper would be nice to stay consistent with the uitk. I wouldn't block the mp because of my personal preference style guide :)
[20:41] <balloons> elfy, :p
[20:42] <balloons> robotfuel, ohh.. that is consistent with uitk, but not with the core apps I don't think
[20:42] <balloons> I tried to follow stylistic guidelines for the core apps in this case.
[20:42] <balloons> ty for the review :-)
[20:43] <robotfuel> balloons: ah I didn't know there was one. can you point me to the guide or a "golden" app?
[20:44] <balloons> robotfuel, lol.. we probably should write up something I suppose as we've more or less settled now
[20:44] <balloons> it keeps changing
[20:44] <balloons> robotfuel, I used reminders
[20:45] <balloons> I usually dig into whatever app I find handy if I like the way the implementation went, or I did something different
[20:46] <balloons> it's kind of scatterbrained I suppose. Clock is also nice to look at, and music is chugging along in the same vein
[20:46] <robotfuel> balloons: ack, it's separated out of the test code, that's good enough for me :D
[20:51] <balloons> robotfuel, that's not to say your idea isn't a better one.. Trust me elopio and I would both love more input into the layout and setup
[20:52] <robotfuel> balloons: lines lp610 - 614 would be nice to have in the custom proxy object for the terminal page as a method
[20:54] <balloons> robotfuel, the center screen tap?
[20:54] <balloons> makes sense
[20:57] <robotfuel> balloons: yes, it's easier to see what the test is doing if the method has a nice name. And you might want to reuse that in the future in a UX test.
[20:58] <robotfuel> balloons: maybe not you, but someone might ;)
[20:58] <balloons> robotfuel, totally correct. done