[00:32] <Elleo> danilo_: I've got an MR proposed for it to be added to the ubuntu touch seed already, so as soon as that's accepted it should become part of the default image :)
[01:33] <liuxg> I am now trying to develop a location sample app. though I have set the location policy in the app, however, I still cannot get the location on Nexus 4. what could be the problem for it?
[02:42] <hackersarchangel> Hey I just realized something. Am I able to take my apn-conf.xml from Android and move to the Ubuntu Touch install and have it use that instead of the GPRS file??
[03:37]  * hackersarchangel is editing his gprs file and hoping that he will get SMS working properly...
[03:45] <hackersarchangel> question: when I do a ./list-contexts is protocol in reference to IPv4/6 or that supposed to be something else like ‘sms'
[03:46] <garyc> Im having issue after enabling USB debugging step, then reboot.  The nexus 10 stays at the google X flashing sign.. I'm trying to load ubuntu on it.. Anyone have any ideas?  thanks
[03:46] <hackersarchangel> have you actually loaded it on there yet?
[03:47] <garyc> no
[03:47] <hackersarchangel> better yet, what have you done thus far?
[03:47] <garyc> that was the next step
[03:47] <garyc> was following these steps
[03:48] <hackersarchangel> ok cool because if I can follow along with what you was doing that will help me understand where/what/why/how etc.
[03:50] <garyc> just finished these steps
[03:50] <garyc> Accept the terms of unlocking displayed on the Android device. Reboot the device to Android as follows: $ fastboot reboot
[03:50] <garyc> Now I'm stuck
[03:51] <hackersarchangel> try doing a hard power down.
[03:51] <garyc> ro.product.name=mantaray ro.build.id=JWR66V ro.product.device=manta # ro.build.product is obsolete; use ro.product.device
[03:52] <hackersarchangel> so power button+volDown is usually it on a nexus
[03:52] <hackersarchangel> in my experience
[03:52] <garyc> ok.. now I'm at a robot on back
[03:52] <garyc> belly open
[03:52] <garyc> really
[03:52] <hackersarchangel> with a ! on it?
[03:53] <garyc> no
[03:53] <hackersarchangel> recovery?
[03:53] <garyc> 12 green square buttons
[03:53] <hackersarchangel> sounds like recovery
[03:53] <hackersarchangel> hmmm
[03:53] <hackersarchangel> one second
[03:53] <garyc> by selecting volume I can get to an option for recovery
[03:54] <garyc> toggle volume give me  Recovery,start,restart boot loader,poweroff
[03:55] <garyc> I think I have to press power to select option.. I will await your reply
[04:00] <hackersarchangel> start, power button
[04:00] <hackersarchangel> so select start, that *should* start Android
[04:01] <hackersarchangel> actually!
[04:01] <hackersarchangel> wait.
[04:01] <hackersarchangel> what guide are you following?
[04:01] <garyc> http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[04:02] <hackersarchangel> ok.
[04:02] <hackersarchangel> One second.
[04:03] <garyc> I'm at  end of "Unlock the Android device"
[04:03] <hackersarchangel> so the last command was “sudo fast boot oem unlock” correcy?
[04:03] <hackersarchangel> **correct
[04:04] <garyc> Reboot the device to Android as follows: $ fastboot reboot
[04:04] <hackersarchangel> also you did back up your data and such correct?
[04:04] <garyc> new machine.. no data on it
[04:04] <garyc> Just un boxed it
[04:04] <hackersarchangel> well yeah but I mean that was the step you just did was “sudo fastboot oem unlock” then the “fastboot reboot"
[04:05] <garyc> yes
[04:05] <hackersarchangel> ok, just double checking
[04:05] <garyc> then stuck after reboot
[04:05] <hackersarchangel> I’d hate to offer advice and have it go badly.
[04:06] <hackersarchangel> Well that’s not to worry, you haven’t toasted it
[04:06] <garyc> the lock state says unlocked
[04:06] <hackersarchangel> awesome
[04:06] <garyc> maybe recovery
[04:07] <garyc> start does not work, restart boot loader does nothing
[04:07] <hackersarchangel> well that is where you are at is the recovery
[04:07] <garyc> ah
[04:07] <hackersarchangel> wait, no it sounds like you are at bootladed
[04:07] <hackersarchangel> **bootloader
[04:07] <hackersarchangel> :P
[04:07] <hackersarchangel> sorry, long day
[04:07] <hackersarchangel> type in adb list-devices
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> type in adb devices
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> correction
[04:08] <garyc> adb devices returns nothing
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> ok.
[04:08] <garyc> empty
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> right.
[04:08] <garyc> Thats when I started the chat
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> ok.
[04:08] <garyc> irc
[04:08] <hackersarchangel> yep
[04:09] <hackersarchangel> ok what are all the options? I don’t have my phone handy atm
[04:09] <garyc>  Recovery,start,restart boot loader,power off    Its a tablet.. I'm sure you knew that though
[04:11] <hackersarchangel> yep
[04:11] <hackersarchangel> Nexus 10?
[04:11] <hackersarchangel> so “manta”
[04:11] <hackersarchangel> try recovery
[04:11] <garyc> ok.. selected recovery.. now I have a !
[04:11] <garyc> in belly
[04:11] <hackersarchangel> hang on
[04:11] <garyc> ok
[04:12] <hackersarchangel> press volume down
[04:12] <hackersarchangel> does it show a menu?
[04:12] <garyc> not now
[04:12] <hackersarchangel> ok
[04:12] <hackersarchangel> press and hold power, then volume up
[04:12] <hackersarchangel> that should make a menu appear
[04:12] <garyc> When I press power + Vol..  I get an option menu to select via the vol button
[04:14] <hackersarchangel> awesome, select reboot
[04:14] <hackersarchangel> that will force a reboot to happen, and we will either get kicked into Android or be forced to try alternate measures.
[04:14] <garyc> oops  no reboot
[04:15] <garyc> restart bootloader
[04:15] <hackersarchangel> ….
[04:15] <hackersarchangel> so what options do you have displayed? you should one labeled “reboot system now”
[04:16] <garyc> came back to same menu after selection
[04:16] <garyc> robot on back no "!"
[04:16] <hackersarchangel> ....
[04:16] <hackersarchangel> dangit.
[04:16] <garyc> just start options,etc
[04:16] <hackersarchangel> right.
[04:16] <hackersarchangel> ok so select recovery
[04:17] <garyc> selecting it..
[04:17] <hackersarchangel> and press power+volume up
[04:17] <hackersarchangel> and then select wipe data/factory reset
[04:18] <garyc> so, select recovery, by pressing power button.. Then repress power+vol up
[04:18] <hackersarchangel> well do that first bit
[04:18] <hackersarchangel> then press and hold power button and volume up like before
[04:21] <garyc> i keep seeing google in white letters
[04:21] <hackersarchangel> google in white letters? does that flash or disappear at all
[04:22] <hackersarchangel> and are you seeing a padlock that is unlocked underneath it?
[04:22] <garyc> disappear
[04:22] <hackersarchangel> Ok and are you seeing the Android boot animation or still just the Google in white?
[04:23] <garyc> yes lock
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> is it closed/open?
[04:23] <garyc> blinks then repeats
[04:23] <garyc> closed
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> ...
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> then the unlock failed.
[04:23] <hackersarchangel> fantastic.
[04:24] <garyc> if I let go its back to animation X
[04:24] <hackersarchangel> oh!
[04:24] <hackersarchangel> let go dude
[04:24] <hackersarchangel> just let it boot
[04:25] <garyc> Just a blinking X
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> although it does sound like the unlock failed, but I want to see if the blasted thing will boot at this point.
[04:25] <garyc> Sorry to be a pain.
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> No its fine dude
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> these things happen
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> all I’m doing is trying to sort out my APN stuff so I can get SMS working
[04:25] <hackersarchangel> on my end
[04:26] <garyc> sounds like fun
[04:26] <hackersarchangel> Let’s give the tablet a minute to try loading
[04:26] <garyc> I do have the debug cable connected.
[04:26] <hackersarchangel> but if it doesn’t, then do a hard reset (Vol-Down+Power)
[04:26] <hackersarchangel> that shouldn’t affect it
[04:26] <garyc> ok
[04:27] <garyc> I do this kind of stuff from the bottom up.. Build u-boot, kernel, os, drivers, etc for devices all the time.. So, I'm use to stuff like this
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> ah.
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> Well I would say go ahead and try to unlock the boot loader again, start from that.
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> But first do a factory reset if it won’t load at all
[04:28] <garyc> I only dabbled with adb and fast boot with nvidia devices many years ago
[04:28] <hackersarchangel> and see if it even loads at all after you do that.
[04:29] <hackersarchangel> Although I’m guessing you already checked out Android yes?
[04:29] <garyc> i saw a downloading sceen
[04:29] <garyc> then went to X animation
[04:31] <hackersarchangel> sounds like it did the reset then, but I’m not sure without seeing it
[04:31] <hackersarchangel> Look up factory reset for the Nexus 10, follow that and do a reset, then try to unlock the bootloader.
[04:31] <garyc> while holding button it said downloading do not reset.. Then I let go of the button
[04:31] <garyc> ok
[04:33] <hackersarchangel> ok so letting go of the button wouldn’t have hurt it
[04:33] <hackersarchangel> but I’m just thinking practically that it would be best to just start from the beginning, and try again
[04:33] <hackersarchangel> sometimes that’s what get’s it rocking and rolling
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> ok so I’m having an issue here.
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> I’m gonna try something else
[04:36] <hackersarchangel> but every time I restart ofono it replaces my gprs file
[04:38] <garyc> ok
[04:39] <garyc> press and hold power.. but press vol up..  when in ! robot mode.  I see menu now
[04:39] <hackersarchangel> ok, do factory reset/data wipe
[04:40] <garyc> nice OMG question..  no,no,no,no,no,Yes wipe data.. Love that
[04:41] <hackersarchangel> Lol right?
[04:41] <hackersarchangel> it’s pretty unny
[04:41] <hackersarchangel> funny**
[04:41] <garyc> yep
[04:41] <garyc> I can relate to it
[04:42] <garyc> lots of E: Failed to mount /cache,etc..
[04:42] <garyc> I would assume thats because I never booted it up
[04:42] <hackersarchangel> right
[04:42] <garyc> no back to selection screen
[04:42] <garyc> reboot ssystem now
[04:42] <hackersarchangel> try that...
[04:42] <garyc> Data wipe clean
[04:43] <hackersarchangel> hit data wipe clean
[04:43] <hackersarchangel> then reboot
[04:44] <garyc> back to welcome screen
[04:44] <garyc> finally
[04:44] <garyc> thanks
[04:44] <garyc> Anything special I need to do to install ubuntu
[04:46] <hackersarchangel> just restart into the boot loader and try unlocking it again
[04:46] <hackersarchangel> see if it flips out
[04:49] <garyc> fastboot status - OKAYoem unlocked already
[04:49] <hackersarchangel> awesome.
[04:50] <hackersarchangel> adb devices
[04:50] <hackersarchangel> is it listed?
[04:50] <garyc> no
[04:50] <hackersarchangel> figures.
[04:50] <hackersarchangel> do a reboot
[04:50] <garyc> maybe unplug cable
[04:51] <hackersarchangel> nope just reboot it and get it to android
[04:51] <garyc> restart bootloader
[04:51] <hackersarchangel> no restart system
[04:51] <garyc> ok.. press and hold power button to turn off then on again
[04:51] <hackersarchangel> alternately if you have a terminal open just do “fast boot reboot"
[04:51] <hackersarchangel> fastboot reboot
[04:51] <hackersarchangel> there
[04:52] <garyc> ok.. it blinked..
[04:52] <garyc> It booted
[04:52] <garyc> sweet
[04:52] <hackersarchangel> AWESOME
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> now you can finish the guide you was following :D
[04:53] <garyc> ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> so go forth and godspeed
[04:53] <garyc> thanks allot dude
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> not a problem
[04:53] <garyc> Do you work for google
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> glad I could lend a hand :)
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> I wish.
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> No
[04:53] <garyc> I work for Oracle..
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> Everything I just helped you with is readily available information
[04:53] <garyc> In java team
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> dude.
[04:53] <hackersarchangel> That’s pretty epic.
[04:54] <garyc> thanks again
[04:54] <hackersarchangel> no biggie.
[04:54] <garyc> have a good night or day
[04:54] <hackersarchangel> Once you get it loaded you’ll have to let us know
[04:54] <hackersarchangel> it’s almost midnight here
[04:54] <garyc> mid west US
[04:54] <hackersarchangel> yep
[04:54] <garyc> CA here
[04:54] <hackersarchangel> ah cool
[04:55] <hackersarchangel> let me guess: Palo Alto xD
[04:55] <hackersarchangel> kidding
[04:55] <hackersarchangel> don’t need to know
[04:55] <garyc> Los gatos
[04:55] <hackersarchangel> ah
[04:57] <garyc> I end up putting linux on almost all my devices.. test java on
[04:59] <hackersarchangel> makes sense
[05:16] <garyc> Thanks aloof hackerarchangel!!!!   Ubuntu is up and running.. Thinks its a phone.. But thats ok
[05:17] <hackersarchangel> lol that’s awesome
[05:17] <hackersarchangel> it’s going to think that for awhile I think because it’s still not RTM software
[06:42] <Wellark> mzanetti: thanks for doing the pinunlock dialog the while back!
[06:42] <Wellark> wiring it now
[06:43] <Wellark> except from having a nervous breakdown on this gmenumodel stuff, it ooks good
[06:55] <dholbach> good morning
[07:06] <Wellark> mzanetti: umm.. did you test the popup dialog?
[07:28] <mzanetti> Wellark: yes. there are tests for the popup dialog, and also the lockscreen uses it if
[07:29] <mzanetti> Wellark: not saying that its impossible that there are still bugs in there. but at least it should be there and work for the most
[07:30] <Wellark> mzanetti: have you tried the dialog inside a snap decision?
[07:30] <Wellark> a.k.a. Notification
[07:30] <mzanetti> oh, no.. I didn't
[07:30] <mzanetti> is the notification still above?
[07:30] <Wellark> dunno
[07:30] <Wellark> probably
[07:30] <Wellark> can't see anything
[07:31] <mzanetti> I see
[07:31] <Wellark> the dialog is created, but not visible
[07:31] <Wellark> I will try without PopupUtlis
[07:31] <Wellark> *utils
[07:31] <mzanetti> that's what it uses internally
[07:31] <mzanetti> ah, without
[07:31] <mzanetti> sorry, misread
[07:31] <Wellark> will just slam a Dialog on top of the Lockscreen
[07:32] <Wellark> let's see if it works
[07:42] <Wellark> mzanetti: argh.. the UITK dialog component is trying to do something too fancy
[07:42] <mzanetti> ok...
[07:42] <Wellark> just slamming a black rectangle over the Lockscreen works just fine
[07:42] <mzanetti> Wellark: ok... still use the method shoInfoPopup()
[07:42] <mzanetti> Wellark: I'll fix it internally
[07:45] <Wellark> mzanetti: sure.
[07:46] <Wellark> mzanetti: I will hack something ugly up which works and then you can make it beautiful
[07:47] <mzanetti> Wellark: what I mean is that you shouldn't write your own dialog stuff
[07:48] <mzanetti> Wellark: still use the method I prepared for you
[07:48] <mzanetti> even if it doesn't work
[07:48] <mzanetti> I'll fix it today
[07:50] <Wellark> mzanetti: where's the fun in that? :)
[08:07] <Wellark> mzanetti: lp:~unity-api-team/unity8/dual_sim_pin_unlock
[08:08] <Wellark> mzanetti: see the FIXME in qml/Components/Lockscreen.qml
[08:19] <ogra_> pitti, not sure you noticed, but we had to roll back the base-files change
[08:19] <pitti> ogra_: yes, I noticed
[08:19] <ogra_> CI infra isnt ready
[08:20] <pitti> there was a long discussion in #udevel with infinity this morning
[08:20] <ogra_> ah, k
[08:20]  * ogra_ hadnt seen the backlog yet
[08:20] <pitti> he said that we shoudl leave /etc/os-release deliberately wrong, and instead find everythign which needs a correct os-release and hardcode values there (apport, add-apt-repository, etc.)
[08:21] <ogra_> yup
[08:21] <ogra_> fun ... since we have so much time left :P
[08:21] <pitti> -1 day?
[08:21] <ogra_> but i guess he is right
[08:22] <pitti> well, I disagree, but as the current reality (base-files revert) is against me, I guess I'll instead upload a hardcoded apport fork then
[08:22] <ogra_> well, what has to be fixed has to be fixed ...
[08:22] <pitti> and we leave add-apt-repository (and whatever else that breaks) broken
[08:22] <pitti> as apparently RTM is only a short-lived shim until utopic, and not something permanent?
[08:23] <ogra_> we identified that pull-lp-source (which is used by phablet-click-test-setup i think) doesnt support somethiong like --dist
[08:24] <pitti> right now it's very hard to tell for a program whether it runs on RTM/14.09 or ubuntu/utopic
[08:24] <ogra_> sergio has a fix for phablet-click-test-setup itself to support other distros ... but pull-lp-source would need fixing too ... in tests that got paul to at least have the provisioning working, but i dont know if he tried a full test run to identify all possible other issues
[08:25] <pitti> ogra_: fixing for which case? os-release saying utopic or 14.09?
[08:25] <ogra_> 14.09
[08:25] <ogra_> utopic works currently :)
[08:25] <pitti> ogra_: hm, but like that pull-lp-source etc. would pull ubuntu/utopic stuff
[08:26] <ogra_> (since tools simply assume that)
[08:26] <pitti> which is not really "working", it's wrong
[08:26] <ogra_> yeah :(
[08:26] <ogra_> well, it works as long as the distros have not diverged
[08:26] <pitti> so it may be differently broken with "utopic", but that's not os-release's fault
[08:27] <ogra_> by luck
[08:27] <pitti> but if we rely on that we don't need RTM in the first place :)
[08:27]  * ogra_ gets meeting coffee ...
[08:32] <ogra_> hmpf
[08:32] <ogra_> phablet-config:130:1: E302 expected 2 blank lines, found 1
[08:32] <ogra_> phablet-config:153:72: E502 the backslash is redundant between brackets
[08:32] <ogra_> pep8 and me will never be friends ...
[08:54] <seb128> mpt, hey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Notification?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-notifications.png ... the text on the top should use the normal font for label right?
[08:54] <seb128> (seems like somebody made the current version use large text for some reason, asking before changing that)
[08:58] <mpt> seb128, well spotted, it should be the normal size
[08:58] <mpt> And it looks like that is another list of apps with unrounded icons
[08:58] <mpt> like the list of Updates used to be
[08:58] <mpt> seb128, is the API for showing an app icon a case of “-7. The obvious use is wrong”? <http://sweng.the-davies.net/Home/rustys-api-design-manifesto>
[08:58] <seb128> mpt, ok, I can fix that as well while I'm doing changes
[09:01] <seb128> mpt, no, I think the API is fine, somebody set explicitly the "iconFrame" property there, that name is weird though
[09:01] <seb128> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.04/qml/ui-toolkit/qml-ubuntu-components-listitems0-standard.html
[09:01] <seb128> "Show or hide the frame around the icon"
[09:01] <seb128> that doesn't mention that it makes the icon ubuntushaped or rectangular
[09:01] <mzanetti> Wellark: hey, set min and max pin length
[09:01] <seb128> but it does
[09:01] <mzanetti> Wellark: 4 and 8 I guess that is
[09:02] <mzanetti> Wellark: that influences the distance of the dots being painted
[09:02] <Wellark> mzanetti: they are being set
[09:02] <Wellark> coming from the backend
[09:02] <Wellark> depend on the code being aske
[09:02] <Wellark> *asked
[09:03] <mzanetti> ah... I just tried with sd-example-simunlock.py
[09:03] <Wellark> mzanetti: I can't repro that weird  black screen anymore
[09:03] <mzanetti> in that case it seems to be unset
[09:03] <Wellark> mzanetti: yep.
[09:05] <Wellark> mzanetti: I've tried just about anything with sd-example-simunlock.py
[09:06] <mpt> seb128, yeah, I’d call that “The obvious use is wrong” … You shouldn’t have to remember to put the frame around the icon just because it happens to be an app icon
[09:07] <seb128> mpt, well, the frame is on by default
[09:13] <Wellark> mzanetti: let's see if it's present on the phone
[09:14] <Wellark> there is still the irritating thin of seeing a little of black background when firing the pinunlock snap decision
[09:15] <seb128> mpt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1362547 is a bit confusing btw, the description speaks of badges which seems to not match the title?
[09:16] <mpt> seb128, ah, ok … Still, seems like giving an app icon the correct shape is something that should happen at a lower level, but never mind
[09:16] <seb128> mpt, yeah, not sure what is an "app icon" compared to an "icon", e.g we don't have a flag saying that the icons present apps in this context
[09:17] <mpt> seb128, resummarized
[09:17] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[09:17] <mpt> (I was being too non-specific about the particular variety of highlight)
[09:19] <mpt> seb128, surely Ubuntu can tell whether an icon is an app icon by whether/where it is inside the click package.
[09:19] <seb128> mpt, clicks can ship artwork/other content than app icons
[09:19] <seb128> but yeah, I guess we could try to be smarter about those things
[09:20] <seb128> we currently aren't
[09:20] <seb128> one step at the time...
[09:28]  * mpt discovers a bug in Windows Phone … where’s their bug tracker?
[09:32] <Wellark> mzanetti: actually come to think of it
[09:33] <Wellark> that black screen might actually be unity8 crashing on the GMenuModel c++ code
[09:33] <Wellark> while trying to load the pin unlock UI
[09:33] <mzanetti> Wellark: may I push to your branch?
[09:33] <Wellark> mzanetti: sure!
[09:33] <mzanetti> Wellark: btw. you have unwanted tags in that branch
[09:34] <mzanetti> Wellark: so I've pushed. now it should work
[09:34] <Wellark> mzanetti: I also figured out what's that little black thing that shows above the unlock dialog for a short while when it's first opened
[09:34] <mzanetti> not sure what you mean tbh
[09:34] <Wellark> mzanetti: it was a clean branch from lp:unity...
[09:34] <mzanetti> Wellark: yeah... we had an incident yesterday that we merged those tags with trunk
[09:35] <Wellark> mzanetti: the base notification dialog shows for a little while just before the Loader is finished to load the pin unlock UI
[09:35] <mzanetti> right, yeah
[09:35] <Wellark> not really a good way around it
[09:35] <Wellark> but let's hope we can get rid of the pinunlock dialog as a snap decision after the RTM
[09:35] <Wellark> that will fix it for good.
[09:36] <mzanetti> Wellark: use this script on your branch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8177093/
[09:36] <Wellark> mzanetti: that's not the srcript included in unity8 source tree?
[09:36] <mzanetti> is it? dunno
[09:37] <mzanetti> Wellark: so in any case, your showInfoPopup() problem should be gone. please let me know if there's still issues with it
[09:39] <Wellark> mzanetti: I think the error text size is too big
[09:40] <mzanetti> Wellark: hmm... you mean for localization? probably
[09:40] <Wellark> mzanetti: well, it's quite big for plain English, too :)
[09:40] <mzanetti> Wellark: that is by design though
[09:42] <Wellark> mzanetti: the script only found
[09:42] <Wellark> Deleting ./7.85+14.10.20140428.2-0ubuntu1
[09:42] <Wellark> Deleting ./0.1.16
[09:42] <mzanetti> yep
[09:42] <danilos> Elleo, all: now that ubuntu-keyboard builds ubuntu-keyboard-serbian binary package as well, how do I get that included into the default ubuntu image?
[09:43] <mzanetti> Wellark: I noticed the 0.1.16 one
[09:43] <Wellark> mzanetti: I stripped the LP branch also
[09:43] <mzanetti> Wellark: perfect
[09:43] <mzanetti> thanks
[09:44] <Wellark> mzanetti: the dialog does not wrap text properly
[09:44] <mzanetti> oh
[09:44]  * mzanetti looks
[09:45] <Wellark> or let's say.. it does not wrap.
[09:45] <Wellark> mzanetti: could you also tune down the opacity of the background
[09:45] <Wellark> it's almost black
[09:45] <Wellark> or is it from the Dialog ?
[09:45] <mzanetti> Wellark: hmmm. looks fine here: http://i.imgur.com/r8QY2lg.png
[09:46] <danilos> Elleo, I guess I need to propose a change to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-touch-meta/utopic-proposed, but I am sure there's a process involved in accepting packages into system image
[09:46] <mzanetti> Wellark: it doesn't wrap the title... yes... but that's internally in the dialog :/
[09:46] <mzanetti> Wellark: do you need a longer title?
[09:47] <Wellark> mzanetti: http://imgur.com/JBOjWP3
[09:47] <Wellark> I'm not setting title
[09:47] <mzanetti> huh
[09:47] <danilos> ogra_, hi, I see you recently committed to ubuntu-touch-meta so you must know: how do I get ubuntu-keyboard-serbian package included in the touch meta packages?
[09:47] <Wellark> mzanetti: that's all text
[09:48] <Wellark> title is ""
[09:48] <mzanetti> Wellark: ah
[09:48] <mzanetti> your text contains \n
[09:48] <mzanetti> which tells the label to not wrap because you know it better
[09:48] <mzanetti> and you should use the title :P
[09:49] <Wellark> mzanetti: well how do I have sections then?
[09:49] <mzanetti> title, text
[09:49] <Wellark> mzanetti: I need the text to be splitted in two parts
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[09:50] <mzanetti> I think that will break the wrapping too
[09:50] <mzanetti> as soon as you control the wrapping yourself, you have to do it yourself completely
[09:50] <Wellark> stupid QML...
[09:50] <Wellark> I don't want to control wrapping... I want hypertext
[09:51] <mzanetti> Wellark: you can try...
[09:51] <Wellark> mzanetti: is the dialog forced to richtext?
[09:51] <mzanetti> don't think so... but not entirely sure
[09:51] <mzanetti> Wellark: I guess I can change it though to have 3 sections
[09:52] <Wellark> mzanetti: just slam a QtWebkit item there and I will send you valid HTML
[09:52] <Wellark> deal?
[09:52] <mzanetti> no dude
[09:52] <mzanetti> not happening :D
[09:52] <Wellark> you have no idea how painful it is for me to push data trhough the freaking GAction, GMenuModel madness..
[09:52] <Wellark> mzanetti: ok..
[09:52] <Wellark> let's see now
[09:53] <mzanetti> Wellark: I guess I have an idea how painful it is to go through the G stuff :D
[09:53] <Wellark> mzanetti: actually
[09:53] <mzanetti> Wellark: you ok with showInfoPopup(string, string, string) ?
[09:53] <Wellark> I have a great idea
[09:54]  * mzanetti holds breath
[09:54] <Wellark> just slam a ColumnLayout to the widget
[09:54] <Wellark> and slam some JS
[09:54] <Wellark> to split every "\n" separated parts of the text
[09:55] <Wellark> and place them into each individual TextItems or whatever
[09:55] <mzanetti> mhm
[09:55] <Wellark> so each of them will wrap individually
[09:55] <Wellark> that's the easiest thing to do
[09:55] <Wellark> actully I can do it
[09:55] <Wellark> let me do it
[09:55] <Wellark> yes yes yes
[09:55] <mzanetti> I guess I'd prefer to have 3 Labels controlled
[09:55] <mzanetti> and you split it before feeding the lockscreen
[09:55] <Wellark> mzanetti: and what if we need 4 ?
[09:55] <mzanetti> Wellark: we don't
[09:55] <mzanetti> Wellark: keep in mind that this popup is used for the pinlock too
[09:56] <Wellark> you germans are always so un-imaginative
[09:56] <mzanetti> its not just there for you only
[09:56] <Wellark> ;)
[09:56] <Wellark> let me check the spec
[09:56] <Wellark> or the closest thing to a spec
[09:58] <Wellark> mzanetti: ok.. I could probably manage with a title + 3 lines of text
[09:58] <Wellark> separate text items that is
[09:58] <Wellark> which all wrap
[09:58] <Wellark> although, may I point out that this sucks in multiple levels :)
[09:59] <mzanetti> Wellark: well... IMO we should stick with the 2 we have
[09:59] <mzanetti> a title and the text
[09:59] <mzanetti> letting the dialog wrap it
[10:00] <mzanetti> i.e. there is only that on page 16 here: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1VajNkWbBH61iVixXJAmOvNGiG__GWQTMXGNOZijXWJw/edit#
[10:00] <mzanetti> but I can see that there's other specs which don't line up
[10:01] <Wellark> mzanetti: there is one with four sections in page 18
[10:01] <mzanetti> I see one with 3
[10:01] <mzanetti> but none with 4... anyways
[10:02] <Wellark> oh, well.. let's say it would be a corner case we can ignore
[10:02] <Elleo> danilos: I've got an MR proposed for it to be added to the ubuntu touch seed already, so as soon as that's accepted it should become part of the default image :)
[10:02] <Wellark> if you honestly get your self to a point where you have entered the puk code (+ 2 SIMS per puk round and those simms have to match) it does not matter what the phone tells you
[10:02] <mzanetti> Wellark: I still think we should stick with the default Dialog
[10:02] <Wellark> mzanetti: ok. let's do that
[10:03] <mzanetti> which has a title and a text.
[10:03] <Wellark> mzanetti: the design might hunt as down later
[10:03] <Wellark> but anyway
[10:03] <mzanetti> Wellark: I'm sure they wont
[10:03] <mzanetti> Wellark: I had to hunt them for 2 months now to get even to this stage
[10:04] <Wellark> mzanetti: I think I will just keep the "\n" in the strings and strip them on the unity8 side
[10:04] <mzanetti> Wellark: ok... but keep that inside the Notification/ code
[10:04] <mzanetti> Wellark: because otehrwise you might break mterry's Lockscreen stuff
[10:04] <Wellark> so we can do formatting later if necessary without hosing up the indicator translations
[10:04] <Wellark> mzanetti: sure thing
[10:04] <Wellark> I will do the processing inside NotificationMessageFactory.qml
[10:05] <mzanetti> perfect
[10:05] <Wellark> mzanetti: I will finish this up and then do a quick check that my strings match that greeter "design"
[10:05] <Wellark> although as you said that is just one of the many specs
[10:06] <Wellark> but until somebody tells me to change the strings, the greeter spec is as good as any
[10:06] <danilos> Elleo, oh, cool, thanks :)
[10:07] <Wellark> mzanetti: you sure you don't want to give me a QtWebkit item there? ;)
[10:07] <Wellark> I could push the css also over dbus
[10:07] <Wellark> and GActions
[10:07] <Wellark> oh! maybe I do REST
[10:08] <mzanetti> you're insane
[10:08] <mzanetti> :D
[10:12] <Wellark> mzanetti: if I don't see the completely black screen during my testing I will declare the relevant bug fixed
[10:12] <mzanetti> :)
[10:12] <Wellark> I actually were messing around with the snapdecision menumodel before which basically could make the QMenuModel stuff crash
[10:12] <Wellark> or something
[10:13] <Wellark> which would end with black screen when unity8 crashes
[10:13] <Wellark> mzanetti: I modified the sd-example-pinunlock.py bombard unity8 with all sorts of crap
[10:13] <Wellark> and could not repro
[10:17] <mpt> seb128, I reported bug 1363015 on the icon issue
[10:25] <nik90> tvoss: ping
[10:25] <mpt> The first time I start the phone after flashing it, I get a semi-transparent notification bubble at the welcome screen complaining about a storage device. Anyone know what package that bug should be filed under?
[10:31] <Wellark> mzanetti: argh.. I need to quickly implement equavalent of QString::arg() in c++11 variadict templates
[10:31] <Wellark> mpt: did you repartition?
[10:31] <Wellark> mpt: it that is a certain dual sim phone
[10:32] <mpt> Wellark, no, and no :)
[10:33] <mzanetti> Wellark: I assume you have good reasons to reimplement that...
[10:35] <jibel> mpt, ciborium
[10:38] <Wellark> mpt: how frozen are the strings in this doc?
[10:38] <Wellark> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1VajNkWbBH61iVixXJAmOvNGiG__GWQTMXGNOZijXWJw/edit#
[10:38] <Wellark> page 18 for example.
[10:39] <Wellark> some of the strings talk about network provider and others service provider
[10:40] <Wellark> + those "Sorry, incorrect PUK" etc. won't work nicely if the user cancels the dialog and comes back again
[10:40] <Wellark> I mean the flow might start with the dialog
[10:40] <Wellark> reminding the user about the SIM getting blocked after one more attempt
[10:42] <mpt> thanks jibel, I’ve added that to the Avengers page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers?action=diff&rev2=47&rev1=46>
[10:43] <Wellark> mpt: may I just use my own judgement?
[11:30] <kickinz1> Hi!
[11:30] <kickinz1> I would like to test ubuntu touch on an emulator
[11:31] <kickinz1> I've installe ubuntu-emulator, like on this page:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[11:32] <kickinz1> So I got arm version. I'm looking at x86 version: https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/generic_x86/
[11:33] <kickinz1> How can I get this or a trusty one, if still not available, with ubuntu-emulator create?
[11:34] <davmor2> kickinz1: sudo ubuntu-emulator create --arch=i386 myinstance
[11:34] <davmor2> kickinz1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator documented here
[11:34] <kickinz1> I will get > 203 revision?
[11:34] <kickinz1> right now I got : 	ubuntu=20140821.1,device=20140811.1,version=203
[11:35] <davmor2> ah right sorry
[11:35] <kickinz1> tried that but : unknown flag `arch'
[11:35] <davmor2> rsalveti:  will be your best bet when his is available I guess
[11:36] <kickinz1> So I did without arch, and got arm version, that is very slow eve on a good machine (i7 8 cores, 16GB RAM), emulating arm cortex-a9 hurts ;)
[11:40] <Wellark> mzanetti: instead of plain html over GMenuModel I've now decided to go with small Domain Specific Language which utilizes schemas written in JSON and there is a variadict template based solution to crunch that data into pluggable QML framework that does text rendering
[11:41] <Wellark> so that I can have the <br> working
[11:53] <Wellark> mzanetti: http://i.imgur.com/p1QwRj6.png
[11:53] <mzanetti> Wellark: dude, you allright?
[11:54] <mzanetti> :D
[11:57] <Wellark> mzanetti: yes. that's from yesterday or something
[12:22] <daker> mzanetti: dash looked 4 times this week :( not sure how to reproduce it
[12:23] <mzanetti> daker: I think we have someone to look after it now...
[12:27] <daker> mzanetti: ok
[13:12] <kenvandine> gatox, i tried to land your fixing-progress branch last night, but had some troubles when testing it
[13:12] <kenvandine> gatox, i had an image update available, from 212 to 213
[13:13] <gatox> kenvandine, what happened?
[13:13] <kenvandine> gatox, which it prompted me to do... i chose install & restart, which rebooted the phone without updating
[13:13] <kenvandine> so the second time i tried to click not now and get some logs
[13:13] <kenvandine> but that button didn't respond
[13:13] <kenvandine> so i tried again... and same thing
[13:14] <kenvandine> it was very late, so i just removed it from the silo and rebuilt so i could land a critical bug fix
[13:14] <kenvandine> gatox, on the 3rd try, it did actually update after restarting
[13:14] <gatox> kenvandine, ack.... although i don't see how that is related to this branch
[13:14] <kenvandine> but twice it just rebooted
[13:14] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:14] <kenvandine> i thought it might be more of a system-image problem
[13:14] <kenvandine> but wasn't sure
[13:15] <kenvandine> so to be safe i held your's back
[13:15] <gatox> kenvandine, yep... i think so, because this code only affects clicks after installing and image update before showing that the update is available
[13:15] <kenvandine> gatox, how can i force it to find system updates to test with?
[13:15] <kenvandine> like real updates, so it should install on restart?
[13:16] <kenvandine> downgrade a rev?
[13:16] <gatox> kenvandine, modify this file: /etc/system-image/channel.ini and change the version number there..... reboot to be safe that system-image detects it and done
[13:16] <kenvandine> cool
[13:16] <gatox> kenvandine, that's how i have been doing it, it's faster than downgrade
[13:18] <kenvandine> gatox, do i need to change the ubuntu or device versions?
[13:18] <kenvandine> or just the version (image #)
[13:20] <gatox> Kebabfish, just version
[13:20] <kenvandine> lol
[13:24] <Kebabfish> ok, ty :p
[13:25] <kenvandine> gatox, ok... it seems to work fine
[13:25] <kenvandine> i wish i knew what was going on last night
[13:25] <gatox> kenvandine, great
[13:25] <kenvandine> gatox, i'll get that in a silo today
[13:25] <gatox> kenvandine, i'm trying to finish maybe 2 more branches today
[13:25] <kenvandine> ok
[13:38] <clusterboy> Q: Currently running utopic on Nexus 7 -> What can I do to get WPA2 *Enterprise* WiFi?  devel? proposed? SOL?
[13:39] <pmcgowan> gatox, do you have an updated branch for that AC check? wondering if jgdx could help there
[13:40] <gatox> pmcgowan, i'm reworking on that branch, with the latest changes that were made on updates
[13:40] <pmcgowan> gatox, oh great, hopefully can land today
[13:42] <kenvandine> gatox, is bug 1325629 on your todo list?
[13:42] <kenvandine> it isn't assigned to you, but i'd think you'd be best to fix it
[13:42] <gatox> kenvandine, no, i'm working in the battery thing first
[13:42] <pmcgowan> yeah that one is annoying
[13:42] <gatox> kenvandine, pmcgowan and i'm leaving for vacations for 2 weeks starting on monday
[13:42] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, can you help figure out why CI failed on Wellark  MR
[13:42] <kenvandine> gatox, mind if i assign that to you?
[13:43] <pmcgowan> gatox, oh man
[13:43] <kenvandine> ok
[13:43]  * pmcgowan cries a little
[13:43]  * kenvandine cries a lot :)
[13:43] <kenvandine> seb128, do you think you could look at bug 1325629?
[13:44] <seb128> kenvandine, gatox is looked at update bugs
[13:44] <seb128> oh
[13:44] <seb128> just read backlog
[13:44] <seb128> shrug
[13:44] <kenvandine> hehe...
[13:44] <seb128> I've no idea about that stack
[13:44] <seb128> between clicks and system image services
[13:44] <kenvandine> i figure you've looked at that code more than anyone else :)
[13:44] <kenvandine> ok
[13:44] <gatox> seb128, pmcgowan i'll try to finish the battery branch and some ui improves from design today
[13:45] <pmcgowan> gatox, thanks
[13:45] <seb128> kenvandine, in fact it might just be a method to call or something
[13:45] <seb128> kenvandine, I can try having a look on monday
[13:45] <kenvandine> seb128, i'd appreciate it :)
[13:45] <kenvandine> yeah... or a signal to listen for in the main page
[13:46] <kenvandine> it might be simple
[13:48] <kenvandine> seb128, this is puzzling, look at the about panel
[13:48] <kenvandine> see the divider about Storage?
[13:48] <kenvandine> it doesn't have the same margins as the other dividers
[13:49] <kenvandine> i guess that's an sdk thing right?
[13:49] <kenvandine> probably intentional
[13:50] <seb128> kenvandine, I don't see that
[13:51] <seb128> they all go from left to right
[13:51] <kenvandine> really?
[13:51] <seb128> yes
[13:51] <seb128> well, in the storage subpage
[13:51] <seb128> or?
[13:51] <kenvandine> no...
[13:51] <kenvandine> in the about page
[13:51] <kenvandine> right above the storage item
[13:51] <seb128> which line?
[13:52] <seb128> it goes from left to right here
[13:52] <kenvandine> the dividers that are including in the list items have a margin
[13:52] <kenvandine> but the ListItem.ThinDivider touches the sides
[13:52] <kenvandine> ListItem.Divider that is
[13:52] <kenvandine> line 121 in about/PageComponent.qml
[13:53] <seb128> kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/divider.png
[13:54] <kenvandine> oh!
[13:54] <seb128> kenvandine, or I don't understand what you describe
[13:54] <kenvandine> try it on the device ;)
[13:54] <seb128> well, same
[13:54] <seb128> there is serial/IMEI before
[13:54] <kenvandine> the lines don't touch the sides...
[13:54] <seb128> but same look
[13:54] <seb128> they do for me
[13:54]  * kenvandine takes a screenshot
[13:55] <kenvandine> what's the command to take a screenshot of the device?
[13:55] <jgdx> phablet-screenshot foo.png
[13:56] <kenvandine> http://people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/dividers.png
[13:56] <kenvandine> seb128, ^^
[13:57] <seb128> kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/device.png
[13:57] <seb128> kenvandine, mine is r209 with updated toolkit by dist-upgrade
[13:57] <seb128> so should be current
[13:58] <seb128> kenvandine, yours is locally hacked, right?
[13:58] <kenvandine> nope...
[13:59] <seb128> hum
[13:59] <seb128> I wonder why I don't have a phone number at the top
[13:59] <seb128> I've a SIM/valid number in that phone
[13:59] <kenvandine> interesting
[13:59] <kenvandine> you should then
[14:00] <kenvandine> seb128, which device
[14:00] <kenvandine> ?
[14:00] <jgdx> https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/show-ip-and-mac/+merge/232487 is up
[14:00] <kenvandine> jgdx, awesome
[14:00] <kenvandine> i'll review it
[14:00] <jgdx> kenvandine, having issues styling the textinput
[14:00] <seb128> kenvandine, it's written on the screenshot :p
[14:00] <kenvandine> seb128, so it looks right on krillin... not on mako
[14:00] <jgdx> kenvandine, saw you did a great job on that in callfowarding. Care to help?
[14:00] <seb128> kenvandine, weeeird
[14:00] <kenvandine> seb128, your's is a desktop :)
[14:01] <seb128> kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/device.png ?
[14:01] <kenvandine> sorry, missed that one :)
[14:01] <seb128> kenvandine, or you didn't see the url, I copied it around the time you gave yours
[14:01]  * jgdx -> lunch, relocating
[14:01] <kenvandine> seb128, ah... so it looks right for me on that device too
[14:01] <kenvandine> not on mako though
[14:01] <seb128> kenvandine, :/
[14:01] <seb128> wth?
[14:01] <seb128> we didn't change that code for ages
[14:01] <kenvandine> yeah... odd!
[14:01] <seb128> and it's just a column of listitems
[14:01] <seb128> I blame the toolkit
[14:01] <kenvandine> indeed
[14:02] <kenvandine> so there was a toolkit landing a couple days ago
[14:02] <kenvandine> maybe that isn't in rtm yet
[14:02] <kenvandine> what image rev is your's?
[14:02] <kenvandine> mine is 5
[14:02] <kenvandine> so just built
[14:02] <kenvandine> nm... clearly the diff is on mako :)
[14:03] <seb128> kenvandine, no, my image is 209
[14:03] <seb128> I didn't try switching channel yet
[14:03] <kenvandine> ok
[14:03] <kenvandine> try updating to latest utopic
[14:03] <seb128> I dist-upgraded this morning though (since image updates seems to be discontinued)
[14:03] <kenvandine> ah
[14:04] <seb128> desktop runs current utopic as well
[14:04] <seb128> kenvandine, is your krilin displaying a phone number?
[14:05] <kenvandine> no...
[14:05] <seb128> great
[14:05] <kenvandine> but i don't have a SIM in the first slot
[14:05] <seb128> I feel less alone :p
[14:05] <seb128> I do
[14:07] <kenvandine> jgdx, did i see a branch at some point that handled dual sim for phone numbers on the about panel?
[14:07] <kenvandine> oh right... he's afk :)
[14:08] <nik90_> tvoss: ping
[14:25] <cm-t_> Hi, i try to report an issue, but don't know where
[14:26] <cm-t_> I tryed launchpad, but i don't find a project to attach the bug
[14:26] <dobey_> cm-t_: report what issue?
[14:27] <cm-t_> translation issue dobey_ (sry on the phone, slow to write)
[14:27] <cm-t_> The french translation, but could be others
[14:27] <cm-t_> IFor example
[14:28] <dobey> ubuntu-translations is the project for translations
[14:28] <cm-t_> The copy/paste little popup, some bottom panel, or the unity8 dash at the sentence 'get new app on the store..'
[14:28] <dobey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+filebug
[14:29] <cm-t_> Those places are translated with too long traduction
[14:29] <cm-t_> The translator or not aware about that or no shirt word
[14:29] <cm-t_> need A rethink
[14:30] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, any thoughts on the APN branch? love to see that landing
[14:30] <kenvandine> i am looking at the tests now
[14:30] <kenvandine> i watched the videos of the test failures
[14:30] <kenvandine> they are all tests that switch to the APN editor
[14:30] <kenvandine> i think
[14:30] <kenvandine> instead of carrier selection
[14:31] <cm-t_> dobey: are you sure it's a translation bug, and not design? if there are no shirter word in a lanhuage, the issu is more about design, no?
[14:31] <cm-t_> shorter
[14:32] <dobey> cm-t_: not necessarily, no
[14:32] <dobey> cm-t_: anyway, ubuntu-translations is the place to file issues with translations. if they're determined to be further issues, they'll get moved around appropriately
[14:32] <cm-t_> OK, thank dobey
[14:36] <dobey> Tassadar: hi, is the hammerhead build broken? i'm not seeing any image updates available.
[14:37] <Tassadar> not enough free space on the server
[14:37] <Tassadar> will fix
[14:42] <Tassadar> hmm, actually might have been something else
[14:43] <Tassadar> but once one build failed, it left temp files in place, which then caused all other builds to fail because they didn't have the space
[14:43] <Tassadar> I have to add try/finally thing to always delete the temp folders
[14:53] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, found the problem with the apneditor autopilot tests
[14:53] <kenvandine> Wellark, your branch changes the carrierSelector item from a ItemSelector to an OptionSelector
[14:53] <kenvandine> Wellark, but didn't change the autopilot tests to match
[14:54] <kenvandine> it looks for an item with objectName=carrierSelector and type ItemSelector
[14:54] <kenvandine> Wellark, there are actually 5 tests that would be broken from this, but 2 of them are skipped... but please fix the type for all 5
[14:55] <dobey> cwayne: do you have working lte/3g on n5 with ubuntu?
[14:55] <kenvandine> Wellark, easy to reproduce by running the autopilot tests on the desktop
[14:56] <cwayne> dobey: 3g, lte isnt supported i dont think
[14:56] <dobey> cwayne: oh, well lte used to work for me, around the malta sprint timeframe
[14:56] <dobey> cwayne: do you have t-mo us as provider?
[14:56] <pmcgowan> thanks kenvandine
[14:56] <cwayne> dobey: yea
[14:57] <dobey> cwayne: weird. i am getting no data on either my n5 or n4
[14:57] <Wellark> kenvandine: ok. thanks!
[14:57] <Wellark> I'll try
[14:58] <Wellark> kenvandine: the OptionSelector just looks so much better :)
[14:58] <kenvandine> Wellark, no problem
[14:58] <kenvandine> Wellark, agreed :)
[14:58] <pmcgowan> dobey, the apn database stuff changed since malta, wonder if that screwed it up, but you would have seen that weeks ago
[14:58] <kenvandine> so leave it as an OptionSelector
[14:58] <kenvandine> just fix the tests
[14:58] <dobey> pmcgowan: yes, i've been having this issue for some time now
[14:58] <Wellark> kenvandine: if you find your self wondering "wth, was that dude thinking when writing this code"
[14:58] <kenvandine> Wellark, i do wish the apneditor branch had tests for the new functionality :)
[14:59] <Wellark> kenvandine: well.. http://i.imgur.com/p1QwRj6.png
[14:59] <Wellark> kenvandine: we have a working item post RTM
[14:59] <kenvandine> Wellark, haha :)
[15:00] <Wellark> to fix the testing story around NM, Ofono, URfkill, Bluez..
[15:00] <Wellark> instead of going with half-assed mocks (no pun) we want to do something that goes deeper
[15:00] <Wellark> kernel / test plugins for the actual services
[15:01] <kenvandine> Wellark, well that is a different type of testing... the mocks are useful to some level
[15:01] <kenvandine> but we do need integration testing as well
[15:02] <Wellark> kenvandine: majority of stuff we do are shallow dbus wrappers with some brains on top
[15:02] <kenvandine> Wellark, back to those asserts, what does "throw" do in qml?
[15:02] <Wellark> so, getting a meaningful coverage and test harness really calls for integration level testing
[15:02] <Wellark> at least for majority of my components :)
[15:03] <Wellark> kenvandine: they actually don't do anything fatal
[15:03] <Wellark> they just print a nasty error when they hit the JS Engine top level
[15:03] <kenvandine> right... so for things like ofono, we can safely use dbusmock to mock the well known dbus api for ofono
[15:03] <Wellark> with file names, line numbers, etc
[15:03] <Wellark> kenvandine: it's too broad to be mocked in sufficient level
[15:03] <Wellark> just take a look under ofono /doc
[15:03] <kenvandine> that's probably nicer than console.error then... i like line numbers :)
[15:04] <Wellark> for example, I've been using ofono-phonesim as development aid
[15:04] <Wellark> provides nice way of testing different scenarios
[15:04] <kenvandine> Wellark, a considerable amount of ofono is readily available from a dbusmock template
[15:04] <kenvandine> Wellark, yeah, i do too
[15:04] <Wellark> yes, templates
[15:04] <Wellark> but not business logic
[15:05] <kenvandine> dbusmock can be pretty time consuming for sure... like i never did get proper emitting of property changes for arrays
[15:05] <kenvandine> drove me nuts :)
[15:05] <Wellark> when you have components that actually require the test bench to produce same business logics
[15:05] <Wellark> been there, done that
[15:05] <Wellark> and hopefully we get away from the mocks as much as possible
[15:06] <dobey> cwayne: did you have to modify the apn info for t-mo?
[15:06] <Wellark> into actually running the services with their exact business logic as in production
[15:06] <Wellark> and only driving them through fake devices and data mocks
[15:06] <cwayne> dobey: yeah, there was a bug somewhere, let me find it
[15:06] <kenvandine> Wellark, i respectably disagree... :)  i think we need to do both, just my opinion
[15:07] <Wellark> kenvandine: ok, let's disagree by some pints on the next sprint! :)
[15:07] <kenvandine> indeed
[15:07] <kenvandine> that would be fun
[15:08] <jgdx> kenvandine, no, but I can pick that up
[15:09] <Tassadar> dobey: all right, it is generating an image right now and I've enclosed all places when temp files are used with try/finally, so this shouldn't happen again
[15:09] <Tassadar> but I've also merged with upstream system-image-server, which might break stuff :x
[15:09] <dobey> Tassadar: ok, thanks
[15:09] <dbarth_> ogra_: hey; a syslog that is stuck around the 21st, do you have an idea how to fix?
[15:09] <kenvandine> jgdx, great... i really thought i saw a branch that did that :)
[15:09] <ogra_> dbarth_, how do you mean ?
[15:09] <dobey> Tassadar: if it seems off, don't worry, i'll bug you. :)
[15:09] <jgdx> kenvandine, a good dream
[15:10] <dbarth_> ogra_: my syslog doesn't "log" since the 21st or so
[15:10] <ogra_> dbarth_, you mean rsyslog is not running ?
[15:10] <ogra_> or is your disk full
[15:10] <dbarth_> ogra_: it runs
[15:10] <cm-t> dobey : i made bug #1363126 but i wrote it very fast because i have to go
[15:10] <dbarth_> disk not full
[15:10] <ogra_> dbarth_, then i dont know ... never seen such a thing ...
[15:10] <cm-t> plus my english sux..
[15:11] <dbarth_> ogra_: i noticed usermetrics became the owner of some files
[15:11] <ogra_> ugh
[15:11] <dbarth_> and mardy has the same issue
[15:12] <dobey> cwayne: was it the ipv6 needs to be ipv4 or something? the rest of the stuff in the gprs file looks correct, according to the t-mo web site :-/
[15:13] <kenvandine> Wellark, just posted another inline comment too, there was a typo in a string
[15:14] <Wellark> kenvandine: thanks!
[15:15] <cwayne> dobey: i dont uqite remember, maybe awe_knows
[15:16] <dbarth_> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/1363129 with some files / mounts details
[15:16] <dbarth_> on the wrong package, but i didn't know really where to file it
[15:16] <dobey> cwayne: i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1331813
[15:18] <dobey> cwayne: the workaround in there seems to work
[15:18] <dobey> i get a [4G] icon now at least
[15:20] <Wellark> kenvandine: I will try to stay awake long enough to fix the AP tests and what ever you find
[15:20] <Tassadar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8179533/ hm
[15:20] <Tassadar> that's weird
[15:21] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8179537/
[15:21] <Wellark> kenvandine: thostr_ said I will not get any biscuits before the AP tests pass
[15:21] <kenvandine> Wellark,  ^^ that fixes the tests
[15:21] <kenvandine> i just ran them
[15:21] <popey> Tassadar: maybe stgraber can help?
[15:21] <Wellark> kenvandine: OMG!
[15:22] <Tassadar> I'm gonna try it with updated s-i-server
[15:22]  * Wellark asks thostr_ to give kenvandine some biscuits, too
[15:22] <kenvandine> hehe
[15:22] <Wellark> kenvandine: please, push to the branch
[15:22] <Wellark> you should have permissions
[15:22] <kenvandine> ok
[15:22] <Wellark> kenvandine: thanks a million!
[15:22] <dobey> still no mms though i guess :(
[15:23] <Wellark> dobey: where?
[15:23] <Wellark> I have MMS editor
[15:23] <kenvandine> Wellark, pushed...
[15:23] <kenvandine> you fix the typo though :)
[15:23] <Wellark> kenvandine: cheers!
[15:23] <Wellark> kenvandine: nobody will notice..
[15:23] <Wellark> ;)
[15:29] <ogra_> dbarth_, is that an untouched readonly image or did you make it writable, install debs etc ?
[15:32] <ogra_> looks like your GIDs changed underneath you and rsyslog runs as its own user/group ... so it wont have access
[15:32] <ogra_> slangasek, stgraber, is there any progress on the UID/GID "transfer on s-i upgrades" bug ?
[15:37] <dbarth_> ogra_: writable, had debs installed, yes
[15:38] <ogra_> that might have screwed things up ... is there more thna pthe phablet user in the passwd/group files in /var/lib/extrausers
[15:50] <kenvandine> Wellark, don't forget the typo fix... i'd like to get all that in a working CI build soon
[15:53] <rickspencer3> alecu, I'm trying the app purchasing from the dash. I ran the script, I was already logged in via System Settings ... The Sign in Dialog keeps saying that I have an incorrect password
[15:53] <alecu> rickspencer3: weird, let me try it now.
[15:57] <alecu> rickspencer3: I can't reproduce it. Let me check if has to do with my 2fa being disabled, because I've been playing with that.
[15:57] <rickspencer3> alecu, so, to be clear, I added my U1 account days ago
[15:57] <rickspencer3> and just enable purchasing today
[15:58] <alecu> rickspencer3: your u1 account is a production one, right?
[15:58] <rickspencer3> alecu, yers
[15:58] <rickspencer3> yes
[15:58] <rickspencer3> so far as I know, anyway :)
[15:59] <rickspencer3> alecu, it's the one I use for SSO
[15:59] <alecu> rickspencer3: great. Are you using the script from the mail I sent to olli earlier this week?
[15:59] <rickspencer3> alecu, yes
[16:00] <rickspencer3> alecu, I looked at https://bugs.launchpad.net/pay-ui/+bug/1361888
[16:00] <rickspencer3> but it didn'e seem to be relevant, since the domains in the script looked correct already
[16:00] <SturmFlut> Has anybody tried to create a 3D accelerated app without using WebGL? I don't know of any and I would like to fill bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-touch/+bug/1356566 with more info
[16:03] <alecu> rickspencer3: yes, with that script the domains are correct; anyway, that bug seems to be fixed on rtm#12
[16:03] <rickspencer3> 12?
[16:03] <rickspencer3> I'm on 5!
[16:03] <rickspencer3> :)
[16:04] <rickspencer3> which I just got this morning
[16:04] <elopio_> tedg: I have a question about upstart env vars. Can you help me with that or do you know who can?
[16:04] <rickspencer3> alecu, ok, I'll try again when I have 12 :)
[16:04] <jgdx> uname -a
[16:04] <dobey> -proposed is where it's at
[16:04] <jgdx> hm
[16:04] <dobey> 5 is so last week :)
[16:04] <pmcgowan> SturmFlut, I think thats due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1352631
[16:04] <alecu> rickspencer3: I'm on nexus 4, and I think the image numbers do not match if you are on some other device
[16:05] <rickspencer3> I'm on proposed!
[16:05] <rickspencer3> alecu, hmmm, updates has PayUI in it
[16:05]  * rickspencer3 tries
[16:06] <dobey> rickspencer3: i just opened updates and it wants me to install 14. are you *sure* you're on proposed? :)
[16:06] <Wellark> kenvandine: ok ok..
[16:06] <Wellark> fixingin it :)
[16:06] <rickspencer3> ubuntu-device-flash  --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed
[16:06] <rickspencer3> dobey, ^
[16:06] <dobey> huh
[16:06] <rickspencer3> dobey, I'm on krillin
[16:06] <tedg> elopio_, I can probably help, but ask and I'll find who can if I can't :-)
[16:06] <dobey> i guess krillin is a little behind?
[16:07] <Wellark> kenvandine: any idea what's going on with that binding loop?
[16:07]  * rickspencer3 shrugs
[16:07] <cwayne> krillin is behind
[16:07] <rickspencer3> alecu, Monday is a holiday here, I'll give it a try again on Tuesday :)
[16:07] <kenvandine> Wellark, sorry, i don't
[16:07] <alecu> dobey: I think the image numbers do not match, but they ought to have the same contents
[16:07] <elopio_> tedg: on the phone when I set-env without --global, the value seems to be set global because get-env --global returns it.
[16:07] <elopio_> on desktop that doesn't happen.
[16:08] <elopio_> I'm writing a test for a helper that sets global vars, and I'm not sure what is the right behaviour.
[16:08] <alecu> rickspencer3: great, thanks. You are the second brave soul testing this on prod, so I'm sorry if it doesn't work quite right.
[16:08] <elopio_> I would say desktop is correct and phone is wrong, but I know nothing.
[16:08] <rickspencer3> alecu, that's what dogfooding is all about :)
[16:08] <tedg> elopio_, It depends on whether the process you're under is an upstart job. So on the desktop your terminal is started by gsd (probably) so you set it in the gsd frame. But if you come in other ways on the phone you're not under upstart so you set global.
[16:09] <tedg> elopio_, Basically it's based on the values of $UPSTART_JOB
[16:09] <tedg> Probably it should error in that case, but eh.
[16:09] <SturmFlut> pmcgowan: Maybe, I don't know enough about browser engines to debug this properly. That's why I'm looking for an app that uses 3D acceleration via Qt or something else beside WebGL, to find out if it is a general problem on my devices or just related to the browser
[16:10] <elopio_> tedg: it makes sense. On the phone that var is not set, on my desktop terminal is set to unity-settings-daemon
[16:10] <Wellark> kenvandine: fixed
[16:11] <elopio> ok, I can just remove one of my assertions then. No need to check if it's not set global when setting it local. It will be consistent anyway.
[16:11] <elopio> thanks tedg.
[16:11] <Wellark> kenvandine: well, system-settings and unity8 are having constant binding loops anyway
[16:11] <Wellark> if it does not affact the UX I would say it's a minor issue
[16:11] <Wellark> pmcgowan: ^
[16:12] <Tassadar> stgraber: hi, I'm getting this error with import-images http://paste.ubuntu.com/8179533/ - perl is a hardlink to "./system/usr/bin/perl5.20.0" (says tar -tvf), which means this code sets wrong path for it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-system-image/ubuntu-system-image/server/view/head:/lib/systemimage/diff.py#L220
[16:14] <Tassadar> (that also means this code fails for broken symlinks, not sure if that is intention or not)
[16:15] <Wellark> pmcgowan, kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/ubuntu-system-settings/apneditor/+merge/227534/comments/567325
[16:15] <dobey> rickspencer3: oh, do you have 2fa set to "Always required" on login.ubuntu.com for that account?
[16:15] <beuno> the phone should support 2fa though, right?
[16:15] <rickspencer3> dobey, yeah
[16:16] <dobey> rickspencer3: that's the problem
[16:16] <dobey> beuno: the pay-ui doesn't yet though
[16:16]  * beuno gives dobey the stink eye
[16:16] <beuno> ah
[16:16] <beuno> I see
[16:16] <rickspencer3> ah
[16:16] <rickspencer3> well
[16:16] <rickspencer3> there you go
[16:16] <pmcgowan> Wellark, its an issue with itemlists a lot we can find a fix later
[16:16] <beuno> well, it shouldn't need 2fa to validate the password
[16:16] <dobey> i've already filed a bug for it
[16:16] <beuno> that's too much validation
[16:16] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, ^^
[16:16] <dobey> beuno: it does because the only way to validate the password is to request a new token
[16:16] <beuno> hmmm
[16:16] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, agreed
[16:17] <beuno> that's uncomfortable
[16:17] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, maybe we learn a technique and fix them all
[16:17] <beuno> dobey, I'll think about it, see if there's something we can do
[16:17] <beuno> I guess you should still add it
[16:18] <beuno> but maybe we can allow an exception if you have an existing valid token
[16:18] <dobey> beuno: yeah, it's not great. i think it would be even better if we could just ask for only a 2fa code there, instead of the password
[16:18] <beuno> and allow to refresh it
[16:18] <beuno> without 2fa
[16:18] <beuno> I'd need someone from security to think about it as well
[16:20] <beuno> rickspencer3, I guess your expections for Spencer Rolls must be really ramping up
[16:23] <Wellark> pmcgowan: I will be taking next week of for my long overdue summer holiday
[16:23] <Wellark> if there is anything you need, turn to thostr_
[16:24] <dobey> anyway, need to get lunch now. bbiab
[16:25] <pmcgowan> Wellark, omg another one
[16:25] <pmcgowan> Wellark, thanks for the hard work
[16:29] <alecu> rickspencer3: after setting the 2fa to "always required", as dobey spotted, I was able to reproduce the issue.
[16:30] <rickspencer3> alecu, ok
[16:30] <rickspencer3> so, I guess we need to fix that one way or the other
[16:30] <rickspencer3> as in, I don't think we should ask people to turn that off so they can buy apps
[16:30] <alecu> rickspencer3: sure
[16:30] <rickspencer3> alecu, do you want me to log a bug?
[16:30] <thostr_> rickspencer3: no, we won't go live yet... we need at least another two rounds of testing... it's about money after all
[16:31] <rickspencer3> thostr_, are you saying I shouldn't log a bug?
[16:31] <thostr_> no, you should. just wanted to confirm that we're not yet planning to go live
[16:32] <rickspencer3> thostr_, sure, np
[16:32] <alecu> rickspencer3: no need to file a bug; please mark this one as "affects me also": https://bugs.launchpad.net/pay-ui/+bug/1356879
[16:32] <rickspencer3> \o/
[16:33] <rickspencer3> thanks alecu that was faster :)
[16:33] <alecu> rickspencer3: and feel free to set the 2fa to "Require only when logging into sites that request it" and to try the purchase again :-)
[16:33] <alecu> in this page: https://login.ubuntu.com/
[16:37] <rickspencer3> alecu, ok
[16:37] <rickspencer3> now it just says: Purchase failed, The purchase could not be completed.
[16:37] <rickspencer3> (after I log in)
[16:37] <alecu> gatox_lunch: ^
[16:38] <alecu> rickspencer3: did it ask for the credit card or anything?
[16:38] <rickspencer3> alecu, no
[16:38] <rickspencer3> that was the response after I gave it my password
[16:39]  * rickspencer3 tries rebooting and retrying
[16:39] <alecu> rickspencer3: please remember to re-run the script after rebooting
[16:40] <rickspencer3> ack
[16:41] <rickspencer3> alecu, same effect
[16:41] <jgdx> kenvandine, hey, get a look at the mac/wifi/ip branch? there are some debs in the mr
[16:42] <kenvandine> jgdx, yes, i reviewed it and will test the debs in a few
[16:42] <kenvandine> got distracted by ofono-phonesim blowing up on my desktop again
[16:42] <kenvandine> so annoying
[16:42] <kenvandine> fails to power and modems
[16:43] <kenvandine> s/and/any
[16:44] <jgdx> okay
[16:44] <kenvandine> jgdx, does this ever happen to you?
[16:44] <kenvandine> seems to happen often to me... and i never really know what i did to fix it
[16:45] <alecu> rickspencer3: I just completed the purchase of another of the fake apps; it's likely that I have something different in my credit card settings in ubuntu-pay than what's in your account.
[16:45] <jgdx> kenvandine, nop :s
[16:45] <rickspencer3> alecu, I don't know that I have any credit card info in my account
[16:45] <kenvandine> maybe it has something to do with urfkill...
[16:45] <alecu> rickspencer3: I'll give this more testing and will ask you to retest next week
[16:45] <rickspencer3> or maybe it's out of date
[16:46] <alecu> rickspencer3: can you check in https://login.ubuntu.com/
[16:46] <alecu> sorry
[16:46] <alecu> https://pay.ubuntu.com/
[16:46] <rickspencer3> alecu, is says there is an error for each attempt
[16:47] <jgdx> kenvandine, right, I have urfkill stopped by default
[16:47] <alecu> rickspencer3: can you check on the "My Account" link on top of that page?
[16:48] <rickspencer3> alecu, ok
[16:48] <alecu> rickspencer3: I've got "Allow automatic payments: yes" and a valid credit card there.
[16:48] <rickspencer3> I have Allow Automatic Payments (Yes), Default Payment Method (Credit or Debit - with old CC info)
[16:49] <thostr_> what is shown under "wallet" on the phone?
[16:51] <thostr_> rickspencer3: initiating a purchase, but then click "view wallet". will that show any CC?
[16:51] <rickspencer3> thostr_, I just updated my cc info in the pay.ubuntu.com ui
[16:52] <thostr_> that web ui should also be visible in the payment wizard when viewing the wallet
[16:52] <rickspencer3> looks like it is purchasing now
[16:52] <rickspencer3> thostr_, so, I had no idea
[16:52] <thostr_> if that is not visible then something is screwed up before
[16:52] <rickspencer3> I think we need to look a bit more at the user flows for error conditions
[16:52] <alecu> thostr_: I don't think we've tested with outdated cc info yet
[16:52] <rickspencer3> anyway, I have the app now, and it' sepic
[16:52] <rickspencer3> anyway, I have the app now, and it's epic
[16:53] <alecu> :-)
[16:53] <alecu> rickspencer3: indeed: we need much more testing of this kind of error conditions
[16:54] <alecu> anyway, happy that you've gotten this far.
[16:54] <elopio> mterry_: are you the one working on the wizard?
[16:54] <thostr_> alecu: I think we should add those possible error conditions right away to our testing wiki
[16:54] <alecu> thostr_: sure, I'll work on that.
[16:54] <thostr_> alecu: thanks
[16:54] <rickspencer3> thostr_, alecu, dobey so, once I had it set up correctly, it worked well
[16:55] <rickspencer3> seemed fast
[16:55] <rickspencer3> I bet if you just popped up that mobile web site for me when I hit the error, I would have been able to resolve it easily
[16:55] <rickspencer3> tbh, I didn't even realize that I already had payment info set up
[16:55] <beuno> there are define flows to replace/add/remove credit cards
[16:56] <beuno> so I think they just need to be hooked up on errors
[16:56]  * beuno waves hand
[16:57] <rickspencer3> thostr_, alecu, dobey, beuno and everyone ... nice job!
[16:57] <alecu> thanks :-)
[16:58] <dobey> thanks :)
[17:07] <ahayzen> rickspencer3, FYI if u didn't see the mail about the useDeprecatedToolbar (although you were probably in the discussion) https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-coreapps/msg00780.html
[17:16] <mterry_> elopio, mostly yeah
[17:17] <elopio> mterry_: I'm a little confused on the location screen.
[17:17] <elopio> it says I have to agree with the Ubuntu terms and conditions. But they are not Ubuntu's, they are the HERE tos.
[17:18] <elopio> why doesn't it say something like "agree with the location terms and conditions" ?
[17:18] <mterry_> elopio, I'm fixing that now.  Design gave me the word Ubuntu, but it's being corrected
[17:18] <mterry_> to HERE T&C
[17:18] <elopio> mterry_: awesome, thanks.
[17:18] <mterry_> elopio, also making it optional instead of required
[17:18] <elopio> mterry_: and second thing, if I don't select the first checkbox, why do I need to select the second one?
[17:19] <elopio> oh, ok, I think that's what you mean with optional.
[17:19] <elopio> but if I select the first checkbox, the second is required, right?
[17:19] <mterry_> elopio, I don't think so, I think we just use a shittier algorithm for gps I believe
[17:20] <mterry_> lool, ^
[17:20] <elopio> um, that's a little confusing. So maybe it needs some more words.
[17:20] <rickspencer3> ahayzen, thanks for the heads up, I hadn't seen that
[17:20] <ahayzen> rickspencer3, no problem
[17:20] <mterry_> lool, if user doesn't want us to "use mobile network to find location" but doesn't accept license, we still do some worse location finding, right?
[17:21] <elopio> isn't there a mode to consume HERE data, but don't upload anything to it?
[17:23] <om26er_> ogra_, Hi! regarding USB tethering, it keeps connecting but never connects. What do I need to do ?
[17:24] <ogra_> om26er_, heh, good question ... here it works automatically on all devices
[17:24] <ogra_> om26er_, on what hw do you test ?
[17:24] <om26er_> ogra_, its mako
[17:24] <ogra_> myko or krillin ?
[17:24] <ogra_> err mako
[17:25] <lool> mterry_: Yes
[17:25] <lool> mterry_: first setting controls data usage from location-service and can be turned on later
[17:25] <ogra_> om26er_, i dont have an up to date mako around ... gimme a bit, i need to charge one and upgrade, then i'll try to reproduce
[17:25] <lool> mterry_: secnod checkbox controls inclusion of HERE: that cant be turned on later
[17:26] <om26er_> ogra_, alright, thanks
[17:26] <mterry_> lool, why don't we let them turn it on later?
[17:26] <lool> mterry_: it's dramatically faster to use the HERE provider
[17:26] <mterry_> just out of curiousity
[17:26] <lool> mterry_: cause we dont have that implemented
[17:26] <lool> mterry_: if we could, that'd be nice, but we have to validate all the user experience with them
[17:26] <lool> mterry_: if you feel like doing this after this pass, we should totally do it
[17:26] <ogra_> om26er_, meanwhile dbus-property-service is the package that ship tethering support ... feel fre to open a bug and assign to me
[17:26] <lool> mterry_: we'd have to check with design where to put it
[17:30] <om26er_> ogra_, bug 1363187
[17:31] <ogra_> om26er_, thanks
[17:31] <ogra_> om26er_, hmm, works fine on krillin ... interesting
[17:32] <ogra_> (i just wiped and flashed one here)
[17:32] <om26er_> ogra_, mine is a clean install as well.
[17:32] <ogra_> yeah, my mako isnt yet ... but i can repro
[17:34] <ogra_> cyphermox_, any idea why tethering would work on krillin but not mako ? all i'm doing is to put a NM config in place
[17:35] <ogra_> hmm, looks like janimo didnt include the rndis,adb case in the udev rules
[17:35] <ogra_> i wonder if that has any influence
[18:08] <cyphermox> ogra_: it should work just the same, NM isn't different per device :)
[18:12] <jgdx> kenvandine, seb128, thanks for looking at the ip/mac branch. Pushed fixes for the comments.
[18:13] <ogra_> cyphermox, well, tell that to my phones :P
[18:13] <jgdx> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/about-dual-sim-phonenumber/+merge/232742 not exactly dream come true
[18:30] <jgdx> but it works!
[18:31]  * jgdx dinners
[18:44] <shubham> hiii
[18:44] <shubham> ??
[18:48] <jdstrand> mterry_: hi! if I were going to file a bug against the lockscreen dialog, what package/project would I file it against?
[18:48] <mterry_> jdstrand, unity8
[18:49] <jdstrand> ok
[18:49] <jdstrand> there is a security issue
[18:49] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx
[18:49] <jdstrand> right now there is no enter key, which is nice from a users perspective, but an attacker can ascertain the password length
[19:02] <jdstrand> s/password/pin/
[19:19] <popey> jdstrand: pins are always 4 digits though
[19:19] <jdstrand> ?!
[19:19] <jdstrand> why?
[19:19] <popey> passphrase isn't of course, but the pin seems to be 4
[19:20] <jdstrand> I will update the bug
[19:20] <jdstrand> 4-digit passcode
[19:20] <jdstrand> meh
[19:20] <popey> its called a "4 digit pin code" in the UI http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-29-202036.png
[19:21] <sergiusens> popey: my banking PIN is 8 digits
[19:21] <popey> i dont mean in general
[19:21] <sergiusens> ah, if it says 4 digit in the UI, fine :-)
[19:21] <popey> i meant "currently on the phone, the PIN is always 4 digits"
[19:22] <jdstrand> yes, I am rewriting the bug now :)
[19:33] <kenvandine> jgdx, could i get a review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/dialpad_sounds/+merge/232606
[19:45] <rickspencer3> hmmmm
[19:45] <rickspencer3> we still have to reboot to launch click apps that got updated?
[19:46] <popey> rickspencer3: or search
[19:47] <rickspencer3> oops music app won't launch now :/
[19:47] <nhaines> popey: wait, search fixes that?
[19:48] <nhaines> rickspencer3: good news, though.  You can't reboot anymore because you shouldn't need to, even though you need to.  So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
[19:48] <rickspencer3> man, this is a bummer
[19:49] <rickspencer3> I use my phone for music a lot
[19:49] <popey> it launches here, just updated
[19:49] <rickspencer3> nhaines, well, don't worry about me, I can click the button after my phone shuts down
[19:49] <rickspencer3> popey, on krillin?
[19:49] <popey> no, i dont have krillin yet
[19:49] <nhaines> rickspencer3: hax!  :)
[19:49]  * rickspencer3 tries rebooting again
[19:49] <rickspencer3> nhaines, :)
[19:50] <popey> nexus 7, lemme update nexus 4
[19:51] <popey> wheee so many updates ☻
[19:53] <jelkner> hi all, i'm trying to install touch on a new nexus 10 and i've managed to put it in an unusable state :-(
[19:54] <jelkner> it is stuck on the 4 circles at boot
[19:54] <popey> rickspencer3: yeah, fine on nexus 4 too
[19:54]  * popey celebrates by going to the shops for beer
[19:54] <jelkner> if i put it into recover mode
[19:55] <jelkner> i get the ubuntu screen with options for wiping and restoring boot loader
[19:55] <jelkner> if i do that, it boots once into the spinning ubuntu logo
[19:55] <jelkner> then reboots back to the 4 circles again
[19:56] <nhaines> jelkner: spinning Ubuntu logo takes a ridculous amount of time on first boot from a clean flash.
[19:56] <jelkner> nhaines, but it doesn't finish
[19:56] <jelkner> if reboots on its own back to the 4 spinning android circles
[20:00] <cm-t> wow, lot's of update :)
[20:00] <cm-t> is there a wiki page and or a table and or a graphic that show channel timeline/shedule?
[20:01] <cm-t> I was told to stay on devel, but I would like to understand a bit what's happening
[20:08] <cm-t> or maybe http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ (but I am not sure to understand what rtm is, except it is suposed to be stable)
[20:08] <beuno> cm-t, yes, RTM is the branch that is being stabilised
[20:08] <beuno> so getting less features, more bug fixes
[20:10] <cm-t> because there are some release date to keep, does that mean devel will not be pushed for a while (all team stabilizing, etc) ?
[20:10] <cm-t> thanks beuno
[20:10] <beuno> cm-t, yeah, the focus of the whole team has shifted towards stabilizing
[20:10] <beuno> some features will still make it through, but much less for a while
[20:11] <beuno> it's sort of like the desktop works
[20:11] <beuno> feature freeze, UI freeze, etc
[20:11] <cm-t> oh, I didn't even think that way, sound too much logic like that
[20:16] <jelkner> should i try restoring android and then starting over?
[20:16] <jelkner> the ubuntu flash will not finish
[20:16] <jelkner> after the the 2nd reboot during the install, here is what happens:
[20:17] <jelkner> 1. i get the spinning ubuntu logo with the thin orange bar below it for about a minute
[20:17] <jelkner> 2. it stops spining for 1/2 a second, starts again, then stops again
[20:18] <jelkner> 3. the tablet reboots, and i get the android logo, stuck in the boot loader
[20:21] <dobey> jelkner: the big white "Google" logo, or the green robot with missing heart or something like that?
[20:26] <jelkner> I was able to restore Android using instructions here: http://nexus10root.com/nexus-10-unroot/how-to-unrootunbrick-nexus-10-factory-firmware/
[20:26] <jelkner> i'll try install Touch again...
[20:31] <jelkner> dobey, i think they were with older versions of android
[20:31] <jelkner> i'm reinstalling touch now
[20:33] <jelkner> it's rebooting into recovery to flash (/me has his fingers crossed)
[20:34] <dobey> jelkner: did you boot into android after flashing it?
[20:34] <jelkner> dobey: yes, and it worked
[20:35] <jelkner> the flashing process has now continued longer than it did before
[20:35] <ahayzen_> rickspencer3, if mediascanner2 is out of date that could be an issue...have you any logs for the failing music-app?
[20:35] <jelkner> (i hope that's a good sign ;-)
[20:35] <rickspencer3> ahayzen_, hey
[20:35] <ahayzen_> rickspencer3, o/
[20:36] <rickspencer3> well, I already traced it back to what I think is an app armour issue
[20:36] <rickspencer3> the music player was an innocent victim :)
[20:36] <jelkner> yeah, touch!
[20:37] <ahayzen_> rickspencer3, ah ok :) ... oh did u do a store update? you sometimes have to restart?
[20:37] <rickspencer3> ahayzen_, well, yeah, but it was a little deeper than that
[20:37] <ahayzen_> rickspencer3, ok well at least not us :)
[20:38] <rickspencer3> indeed :)
[20:49] <cwayne> sergiusens: i dont suppose you ever got that untappd account-plugin?
[20:50] <sergiusens> cwayne: nope; I finally have "free" time though; so I might look into it
[20:51] <jelkner> now that i have touch running, can someone point me in the direction of the best resource to learn how to use it?
[20:51] <jelkner> i can't seem to close things once i open them
[20:51] <dobey> jelkner: full swipe from right edge
[20:52] <dobey> jelkner: then swipe the app you want to close upward from the app overview
[20:53] <jelkner> thanks, dobey!
[20:53] <jelkner> that works
[20:53] <jelkner> how do i get the keyboard to go away?
[20:54] <jelkner> never mind
[20:54] <jelkner> swipe down
[23:39] <SturmFlut> I took one of the Qt3D examples and got it working on my Ubuntu Touch device (mako). Works like a charm, seems like https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-touch/+bug/1356566 only affects the browser and not the whole platform