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bluesabreUnit193: poke00:07
Unit193bluesabre: I didn't do it, it was ochosi.00:08
bluesabreah00:08
bluesabreochosi: poke00:08
Unit193:D00:08
bluesabreUnit193: so, where is the xfwm4+patch hiding?00:08
Unit193https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfwm4_4.11.2-0ubuntu2.dsc where it normally is.00:09
bluesabrethanks00:09
Unit193Sure thing.00:10
bluesabrelooks good, pushed00:13
Unit193brainwash: ^00:13
Unit193Thanks.00:13
bluesabrepower-manager time00:14
bluesabre:)00:14
Unit193Ah, at least one thing out of there.00:14
Unit193bluesabre: So, got it figured out or need a pointer?00:27
bluesabrehave a pointer to give?00:27
Unit193In shlibs, -xxfce4-panel00:27
Unit193Tell me if it actually works, didn't look too far into it. :P00:30
bluesabrein shlibs...00:31
bluesabredebian/shlibs?00:32
* bluesabre is in unknown territory00:32
holsteinknome: ok :)00:35
Unit193override_dh_shlibdeps -- -xxfce4-panel, if I read correctly, bluesabre.00:36
bluesabreah00:37
bluesabreok, I know where that goes at least ;)00:37
Unit193If you read the manpage, you may get a different understanding than I do though.00:38
bluesabrehm, no good, Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.37.3), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), libupower-glib1 (>= 0.9.0), libx11-6, libxfce4ui-1-0 (>= 4.9.1), libxfce4util6 (>= 4.9.0), libxfconf-0-2 (>= 4.6.0), libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.99.2), xfce4-panel (>= 4.11), xfce4-panel (<< 4.13), xfce4-power-manager (>= 0.8.0~), xfce4-panel (>= 4.11.0) | lxpanel00:44
bluesabreoh wait00:47
bluesabretypo00:47
Unit193Not going to version that lxpanel ?00:47
bluesabre1 thing at a time :)00:47
Unit193:D00:47
Unit193Another thing to think about when the time comes, looking at a bottom limit or a roof?00:48
bluesabreI think ochosi said the api is completely different with the next lxpanel release00:49
bluesabreso, << 0.700:49
Unit193Exactly what I'm referring to, yep.00:49
bluesabredang, still didn't work00:49
Unit193Yeeeep, read that one wrong, I see.00:50
bluesabrehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8173916/00:50
Unit193 X != x00:51
bluesabre       -Xitem, --exclude=item00:52
Unit193-- means pass it to dpkg-shlibdeps.00:52
Unit193http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/dpkg-shlibdeps.1.html I could be reading that part wrong though, but looks right to me.00:52
bluesabreoh00:53
bluesabremanpage is different there00:53
bluesabrelonger00:53
bluesabreI'll try little x now00:53
Unit193dh_shlibdeps != dpkg-shlibdeps00:53
Unit193(Also, why do you think I took the lxpanel side?)00:53
bluesabre:D00:54
bluesabreyay!01:07
bluesabreDepends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.37.3), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), libupower-glib1 (>= 0.9.0), libx11-6, libxfce4ui-1-0 (>= 4.9.1), libxfce4util6 (>= 4.9.0), libxfconf-0-2 (>= 4.6.0), libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.99.2), xfce4-power-manager (>= 0.8.0~), xfce4-panel (>= 4.11.0) | lxpanel01:07
Unit193There you go, sparky!01:12
bluesabreyou still did all the work, but now I'll know for next time01:13
Unit193Heh, well there is that, yeah. >_>01:14
Unit193Remember to version the b-dep on 0.6.2-0ubuntu2 else you won't get the headers, and I guess we need to bump that bug now. :/01:14
bluesabrewell, this won't build with that until we get the lxpanel in there01:15
bluesabredo we want to do it all at once?01:15
Unit193Just waiting on someone to sponsor lp 136145901:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1361459 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "lxpanel is missing the development files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136145901:17
bluesabrewe could also subscribe gilir to that bug01:18
Unit193Might be good, also give a heads up he'll want to seed -plugins unless it's too late.01:19
Unit193+could, I meant could.01:19
bluesabrewant to subscribe him?01:20
bluesabre:)01:20
Unit193Done.01:22
bluesabreyay!01:22
bluesabre:D01:22
Unit193And...01:23
Unit193For good luck and all.01:23
bluesabrenice01:25
Unit193Anything else I need to look at?01:27
bluesabreI think you're clear01:27
bluesabrego have some fun01:28
bluesabre:D01:28
Unit193Eh, no fun to be had.01:28
bluesabreD:01:28
bluesabremake one of these http://uk.reuters.com/video/2014/08/20/hoverbike-aims-to-take-aviation-to-a-new?videoId=34055384901:31
Unit193Hah, also funny because it redirected me to "Genetically modified mosquitoes to combat dengue in Brazil"01:32
bluesabreI tried01:33
bluesabremicahg_, mr_pouit: if either of you are around, would you mind adding me to https://launchpad.net/~gtk-theme-config-maintainers so I can make a release :)01:35
elfygood day peeps08:38
elfyochosi: front page of xubuntu.org - do we want to add the beta to that - or replace LTS with the beta?08:40
brainwashUnit193: thanks for re-introducing the patch :)09:24
ochosielfy: i think adding the beta might be a good idea. the lts announcement is still fairly recent and might interest09:28
ochosias soon as we're at the final beta or RC of 14.10, we can always remove it09:28
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elfyochosi: agreed - and so did whoever did it :p10:06
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elfybug 1294209 got fixed then the fix was reverted - is the bug going to be fixed again for trusty?10:22
ubottubug 1294209 in xfdesktop "Deleting files from desktop freezes machine for short period" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129420910:22
elfybug 10778 is the bugzilla one10:22
ubottubug 10778 in texinfo (Ubuntu) "info needs UTF-8-Support" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077810:22
elfyhttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077810:22
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10778 in General "Deleting file from desktop freezes system" [Normal,Reopened]10:22
knome_xfce 1077810:23
ubottuxfce bug 10778 in General "Deleting file from desktop freezes system" [Normal,Reopened] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077810:23
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knomeelfy, ^10:23
elfyknome: aah :)10:23
elfythanks 10:23
knomenp, and good afternoon10:23
knomewait, it's still morning there10:23
elfyit is :)10:23
knomecalculation fail10:24
elfyI'll bank that for 36 minutes time :p10:24
knomeheh10:24
brainwashelfy: bug 131902910:27
ubottubug 1319029 in xfdesktop " Deleting files from desktop freezes machine for short period" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131902910:27
brainwash^ the reason why it got re-opened10:27
elfybrainwash: yes I know - I didn't see the need in spamming the channel with a whole bunch of bug lines :)10:35
elfythat though isn't what I'd like to know - what I'd like to know is if it's going to fixed - again :p10:36
elfyglorious - I'm stuck in nvidia/nouveau limbo again :( 10:37
elfynvidia installed, nouveau being used 10:37
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ochosielfy: yeah, i changed it10:56
ochosi(i mean the frontpage)10:56
elfyochosi: thanks 10:56
elfyyep - guessed 10:56
brainwashochosi: should the 14.10 beta page inform the user about our compton config? some may want to test it11:01
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knomebrainwash, aren't you a bit late? we worked on the release announcement the other day11:01
brainwashbeta 211:02
brainwash:P11:02
knomeright... is there a beta 2 page yet?11:02
elfyI'd say if we wanted people to do that - would be useful to do so seperately, much like the mucking about with core11:02
ochosibluesabre was against it, since we're not actively endorsing compton (and i agree)11:02
brainwashthe thing is, I've just noticed it 2 minutes ago11:02
ochosibrainwash: feel free to blog about it ;)11:02
knomei've been jumping on and off, so i might have missed something...11:03
brainwashochosi: but we could need some feedback11:04
ochosibrainwash: not sure, we're supplying a config that might work for most11:04
ochosibut that's about it11:04
ochosiit might work great for some, not at all for others11:04
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ochosi(which is also the reason why we won't ship compton by default)11:04
ochosiso yeah, it is exactly that, i don't want a bugreport with 100 different users endorsing different configs. with all the types of hardware and drivers we wouldn't know what to ship anyway11:05
brainwashmmh, so we should place the config somewhere else, so it's not picked by default when compton is installed11:07
brainwashthese are not the default settings of compton11:08
ochosiyeah, ofc they're not. they're made to resemble our default theme visually11:08
brainwashok fine11:10
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brainwashwhere is mr_pouit ? I could need some help with cleaning up launchpad reports :P12:45
knomehe's mostly inactive. why do you need him specifically?12:48
brainwashhe used to be very active on launchpad, well, few years ago12:49
brainwashit's just that people do report bugs, but many don't receive an answer during the release cycle (if any answer at all)12:56
knomeright... so replying is up to those who are actually available and active during the cycle, not people who used to be active 2 years ago, do you agree?12:57
brainwashI do12:57
knomeso why do we need to poke lionel, who isn't really active any more?12:57
brainwashworth a try12:58
brainwashhe might feel the urge to fight against army of zombie launchpad reports one more time :D12:59
* ochosi doubts anyone has ever felt that urge12:59
brainwashit helps the project12:59
brainwashideally the current package maintainer(s) would do this, but I know that it's a time consuming task13:01
ochosibrainwash: frankly, one bug tracker is enough for me13:09
ochosii've been cleaning up bugs.xfce for quite a while now, mostly for the components i contribute to13:09
ochosibut another bugtracker would mean getting even less done13:09
brainwashI know that13:09
brainwashochosi: I need some help with bug 118806513:42
ubottubug 1188065 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager describes battery capacity incorrectly" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118806513:43
brainwashvalid request?13:43
brainwashthis has not been reported upstream yet13:43
ochosiit's somewhat valid, but i'm not sure what upower offers exactly13:47
ochosiwe don't calculate these values ourselves13:47
brainwashah I see13:49
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Unit193brainwash: So yes, thanks for keeping the bug reports down.  Usually when I look, it's several "$package failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" or one of those. :/18:49
lbracherHi there! Do you know if it's possible to do a PXE boot using a xubuntu iso? TIA!21:28
Unit193Yep.21:29
Unit193Or if not, I better undo doing it. :P21:30
Unit193...Though yeah this is the development channel.21:30
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