| swift110 | Hey | 01:09 |
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| swift110 | Hey | 01:52 |
| Ahmuck | hi. what is the default keyboard input method for lubuntu? | 02:54 |
| Ahmuck | Sorry i do not accept the terms at https//wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService by default for using this channel. | 02:55 |
| teward | Ahmuck, if you do not accept the terms then you should leave the channel (by using the channel you automatically accept the Terms Of Service) | 03:26 |
| Ahmuck | not legally so | 03:26 |
| Ahmuck | to be legally binding you would need some sort of written or typed consent | 03:27 |
| Ahmuck | based on current privacy laws | 03:27 |
| Ahmuck | http://pastebin.com/YNTCnhqy | 03:31 |
| Ahmuck | so, it appears there are two input methods for lubuntu. my backspace key is not operating in gnucash and i'm wondering if it is because of the two input methods | 03:32 |
| swift110 | Hey all | 03:33 |
| Ahmuck | is there a spanish lubuntu channel? | 03:36 |
| swift110 | Hmm | 03:37 |
| Unit193 | Ahmuck: There is a Spanish channel, but it has the same terms. If you do not accept those terms, you must /part the channel. | 03:41 |
| Ahmuck | what is the name of the spanish channel | 03:57 |
| Unit193 | !es | 04:01 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 04:01 |
| Ahmuck | doing a search for xim input method using aptitude does not show it installed. | 04:03 |
| Unit193 | Should have lxinput and xinput installed. | 04:18 |
| Ahmuck | the error indicates that only one input method should be installed but also indicates that two are. ibus and xim | 04:19 |
| Ahmuck | i assume i should be able to remove *xin* | 04:20 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: dont assume.. just try removing, and see what depends on it | 04:25 |
| Ahmuck | ya, the problem with that is things tend to break | 04:27 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: *if* something breaks, put it back | 04:27 |
| Ahmuck | as i recall i noted a problem with networking in 14.04 and was told it wasn't a problem and then it showed up as fixed in the bug tracker. i was right the first time | 04:27 |
| Ahmuck | while ubuntu plebs told me i was the one with the problem | 04:28 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i would just leave it in place, if you are concerned.. why are you trying to remove it? hard drive space? look at see what size it is | 04:28 |
| Ahmuck | which, btw, there is still a problem with dup icons in the system tray, battery, network, etc. | 04:28 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: what is an "ubuntu pleb" ? | 04:28 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i dont have duplicate icons.. | 04:28 |
| Ahmuck | i'd like to understand the process of the system tray and how those icons are added | 04:28 |
| Ahmuck | well, seeing as you were the one telling me it wasn't broke when it clearly was as indicated by the bug reports, i would assume you are an ubuntu pleb | 04:29 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: one thing that can be happening for you is, you have had an issue, and tried to add or autostart applications or services to "fix" things | 04:29 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: ? | 04:29 |
| Ahmuck | it's got to be in the log of this channel i am sure | 04:30 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: what is an "ubuntu pleb" ? i didnt say nothings is broken.. im saying, nothing is broken here for me.. and i would be glad to volunteer some time explaing what i think could be happenging to your system | 04:30 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: friend, im asking you now.. what you mean by "ubuntu pleb". i am unfamiliar with that term | 04:30 |
| Ahmuck | "nothing is broken", not "nothings is broken". | 04:31 |
| Ahmuck | i'm not going to pursue it | 04:31 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i would like to explain to you plusible scenarios where, for only your hardware case, things can be broken | 04:32 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i literallly *cant* persue it.. i dont know what "it" is yet, and i dont have your hardware, and the behavior is not the same on my machines | 04:32 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i would need you to read.. | 04:32 |
| holstein | !bug | 04:32 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 04:32 |
| holstein | and, i would need to konw the steps by which you get to what you got to. and try and replicate it | 04:32 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: have you been able to get anyone else to replicate it? do you have other hardware to try and replicate it on? | 04:33 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: otherwise, i consider "pleb" basically name-calling, and i suggest you consider the voluntary nature of *all* the persons in this channel when trying to recieve assistance.. i understand you are frustrated, but, let us try and maintain a constructive attitude | 04:42 |
| primo_ | Hi. I got one big problem, Im new in linux, got installed Lubuntu on 3.0 ghz 2gb ram and ati radeon 9200 video card, but I think sistem is lazy like snail | 07:55 |
| primo_ | i try install drivers from ati site, but I dont know how, I try with catalyst and fglrx and same result all over | 07:57 |
| primo_ | I find few answers "radeon 9200 is not supported in catalyst and flgrx and must install open drivers, but here Im stuck | 07:59 |
| primo_ | I find solution on upstream git | 08:02 |
| primo_ | but I dont have any idea how to install something from there ? | 08:02 |
| primo_ | is anyone here who know how I can make that radeon 9200 usable ? Thank you | 08:04 |
| primo_ | loto | 08:09 |
| primo_ | lol sorry I put google search here | 08:11 |
| bong1 | hi i have messed around with lxpanel settings like adding the application launch bar and i have removed it, and now what used to be icons on the right side on the panel are now in the middle, how do i get them back to the right? | 09:27 |
| testdr | bong1: you have modified more than only the deleted item - you can right-click on a free panel-space and in the panel-config-window select the panel-addons and check the list, special the end of the list, because there might be still something taking the space - and feel free to look with google-search for more info about lxpanel-configuration | 09:34 |
| bong1 | testdr: there is nothing at the end of the list. and also when i open a program , theres two windows of it running now. | 09:42 |
| bong1 | testdr: ok i have looked at it long and hard and i have found that it contains 2 instances of TASK BAR (WINDOW LIST ) running. i removed the last one and now all is back to what it should be. thanks. | 10:07 |
| testdr | bong1: fine - so the list of addons in the lxpanel was not empty - and maybe as a hint, if you will try more desktop-config-changes it is better to create an additional user and do those tests with such a "dumb" user (that can be deleted completely) | 10:09 |
| bong1 | ok. i have another issue now.. in my messing around, i have also deleted pcfm and the browser icons in the panel which came preinstalled, how do i get them back? | 10:16 |
| testdr | bong1: first, dont forget to check some simple docs for lxde -- about icons for programstarts in the panel, same procedure: right-click on free panel-space and add a starter-entry and for this starter-entry you can add programstarters (like for pcfman, firefox, terminal..) | 10:23 |
| testdr | bong1: this is a double procedure. You need to add such a starter-addon to put the startprograms(incl.the icons that appear) -- and from your question about double-started-programms: a icon-starter in the lxpanel is started with only one (1) mouse-click and 2 mouse-clicks will start double | 10:25 |
| testdr | bong1: you may check: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel | 10:25 |
| bong1 | testdr: when i right click on the panel, there is nothing that says add a starter entry. | 10:34 |
| testdr | bong1: warning for this procedure! You can reset the lxpanel to the default, if you "cat" the default over your local config like this: cat /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu/panels/panel .config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | 10:35 |
| testdr | bong1: after this "reset" you have to logut and login - (instead of killing the panel) | 10:35 |
| testdr | bong1: sorry for my bad english - i dont know the exact name of this panel-addon (for program-starter-list) in the english version | 10:37 |
| testdr | bong1: and the "cat"-sample-command above is missing the > to overwrite your user-panel-config -- cat only display the content in the terminal | 10:38 |
| bong1 | testdr: is what youre saying the same as 1 down vote accepted | 10:41 |
| bong1 | 10:41 | |
| bong1 | Copy the default config | 10:41 |
| bong1 | sudo cp /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu/panels/panel ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels | 10:41 |
| bong1 | Change owner:group to the local account from root. | 10:41 |
| bong1 | sudo chown owner:group ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | 10:41 |
| bong1 | now restart the panel | 10:41 |
| bong1 | lxpanelctl restart | 10:41 |
| testdr | bong1: using chown needs your user-account and group-account, not this dummy-entry owner:group | 10:43 |
| testdr | bong1: thats why i suggested to do a "cat" (=copy the content over the content of your panel-config), because then the owner and group rights would not be changed and still be yours | 10:44 |
| testdr | bong1: in the other way - you may end with an readonly panel-config, that you as the user cannot change | 10:45 |
| testdr | bong1: after some search found this (and the last entry without sudo seems better): http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel | 10:52 |
| Unit193 | Correct, dropping 'sudo' is a good choice. | 10:53 |
| bong1 | just logout, not shutdown? | 10:55 |
| Unit193 | logout and back in would do it. | 10:56 |
| testdr | bong1: yes - this is better than this lxpaneltctl restart thing, because this sometimes ended with 2 running panels | 10:56 |
| bong1 | ok will try this. | 10:57 |
| bong1 | beautiful. that did it. thanks testdr and unit193. | 11:02 |
| Unit193 | Congrats. | 11:07 |
| bong1 | there was once a web page to change the date formats. where was that again? | 11:08 |
| Unit193 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/strftime | 11:11 |
| Unit193 | Something like that? | 11:11 |
| bong1 | yes i remember strftime but its kind of automatic. just select what we want and copy paste it to digital clock settings. | 11:16 |
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| talsamon | hello - can't login after update to linux-headers-3.13.0.35 - login screen returns back to login screen - xsession-errors unable to open display ":0" No protocol specified | 22:13 |
| talsamon | no errors in Xorg.0.log | 22:13 |
| phillw | talsamon: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85782/error-no-protocol-specified-when-running-from-remote-machine-via-ssh | 22:16 |
| talsamon | phillw, no i am starting not from a remote machine, normal boot | 22:16 |
| talsamon | i have reinstalled xorg xserver lightdm nvidia - doesn't help | 22:17 |
| phillw | talsamon: you have done a sudo operation, which really breaks the system | 22:18 |
| talsamon | i make apt-get update apt-get upgrade - next boot i can't login | 22:19 |
| talsamon | linux-header-3.13.0.35-generic was half-installed | 22:19 |
| phillw | we can battle, or you can bite the bullet... | 22:19 |
| talsamon | f... complete reinstall ? | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | !xhangs | 22:20 |
| ubottu | If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority | 22:20 |
| talsamon | ubottu, I have also tried this... | 22:20 |
| ubottu | talsamon: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | talsamon: Can you try the guest account? | 22:21 |
| talsamon | no | 22:21 |
| phillw | talsamon: I'd suggest a seperate home 1st... makes re-install much easier as you keep all your stuff. | 22:21 |
| talsamon | just a moment i will try | 22:21 |
| phillw | Unit193: I'll leave talsamon in your tender mercies :) | 22:22 |
| talsamon | ok, bye : | 22:23 |
| phillw | talsamon: do not run away :) we're here to help. | 22:29 |
| talsamon | wait a minute a testing something | 22:30 |
| phillw | talsamon: be careful of saying such words... Borg mode now enforced.... | 22:33 |
| talsamon | ?? | 22:33 |
| phillw | talsamon: you will be absored into the collective.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek) | 22:35 |
| talsamon | don't believe i am indigestible (unsure my english is not very good) | 22:36 |
| menace | Hi, i have on lubuntu 14.04 (with updates) in kvm/libvirt/qxl/spice a lubuntu 14.04 guest-install and i sometimes get font errors in my display. but on launchpad i just find errors for $ubuntu 13.10? | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | phillw: How about we leave that for the offtopic channels? | 22:36 |
| menace | any idea? | 22:36 |
| menace | that font error is really frustrating.. | 22:38 |
| phillw | Unit193: you tell me (23:13:27) talsamon: hello - can't login after update to linux-headers-3.13.0.35 - login screen returns back to login screen - xsession-errors unable to open display ":0" No protocol specified | 22:38 |
| Unit193 | phillw: What? | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | menace: What errors exactly?? | 22:39 |
| phillw | I see it as a lubutu bug | 22:39 |
| menace | like that: http://imgur.com/r/linux/aG2dL6u | 22:40 |
| menace | it is a *ubuntu bug in my view | 22:40 |
| menace | but that is not my imgur | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | Hah, oh dear. | 22:40 |
| menace | urgs.. my lady wants to go to bed.. | 22:41 |
| menace | gn8 | 22:41 |
| phillw | menace: I'm just a tester and Unit193 is a boss on IRC, so he can tell people to go away. | 22:41 |
| Unit193 | ... | 22:42 |
| phillw | Unit193: well, that is one less person to report bugs... well done. | 22:42 |
| Unit193 | talsamon: Were you able to test another account? | 22:43 |
| talsamon | Unit193, guestaccount also not works | 22:43 |
| talsamon | I have tried reinstall xorg, xserver, lightdm and nvidia-driver | 22:44 |
| talsamon | Unit193, after updated to linux-header-3.13.0.15 - i cant'login, linux-header-3.13.0.15 was half installed | 22:45 |
| Unit193 | Mmmm, this sounds like a but I remember somewhere. If you switch to a TTY, you should be able to fix that. 1. Is lightdm-gtk-greeter fully up to date? 2. What session have you selected? | 22:45 |
| talsamon | I purged it and reinstalled it without problems, but this all nothings help - I am back on the login-screen | 22:45 |
| talsamon | Unit193, I had openbox | 22:46 |
| talsamon | have | 22:46 |
| Unit193 | Top right there should be a session selection, is that what it says now? | 22:46 |
| phillw | talsamon: you can do a complete install of kernel... not too much fun, but do-able | 22:47 |
| talsamon | hmm | 22:47 |
| talsamon | If try this and something...I consider a complete new install, I think it's faster | 22:48 |
| phillw | talsamon: try http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 | 22:49 |
| phillw | it was written by the now defunct UBT team It is safe. | 22:50 |
| talsamon | Thank, I will try it | 22:51 |
| phillw | talsamon: if that does not work, please do ask. | 22:57 |
| talsamon | In moment I make a disc-check... | 22:58 |
| phillw | talsamon: waits | 23:02 |
| talsamon | bye for the moment, i will back later... ;-)) | 23:23 |
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