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popeyahayzen_: do you have qml-module-qtmultimedia installed?00:00
ahayzen_popey, yes00:01
ahayzen_popey, but interesting it doesn't appear on my trusty machine...$ apt-cache policy qml-module-qtmultimedia00:02
ahayzen_N: Unable to locate package qml-module-qtmultimedia00:02
ahayzen_popey, but yes it is on the VM00:02
popeyqml-module-qtmultimedia looks to be a virtual/dummy package00:02
ahayzen_popey, ah yes looks at the depends00:04
ahayzen_'breaks/replaces qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin'00:04
popeyok, progress!00:06
popeyok, progress!00:06
popeyi can get your app running00:06
popeyon a live cd install qmlscene, export QT_SELECT=qt500:07
popeythen run it00:07
ahayzen__oh god not this again00:07
popeyhah00:08
ahayzen__hmm don't think it worked for me00:08
popeyi get the usual Hello / Tap me! thing00:08
ahayzen__yeah its just the Simple UI00:09
Akiva-Thinkpadhey all00:10
ahayzen__o/00:10
popeyword00:10
popeyso all i did was install qmlscene and qtfoo5-qtmm-plugin00:10
popeyand setting the env var it works00:11
Akiva-Thinkpado_O00:11
Akiva-Thinkpadshouldnt you guys be asleep?00:11
ahayzen__hmmm00:11
Akiva-Thinkpadyou guys are never on at this time :P00:11
ahayzen__Akiva-Thinkpad, yeah probably its 1am00:11
ahayzen__popey, can u export in xterm....00:11
* Akiva-Thinkpad hates pacific time zone 00:11
popeyahayzen__: live in utc00:14
popey /exec -o date -u00:14
popey00:14
popeySat Aug 30 00:14:28 UTC 201400:14
popeylooks much better!00:14
ahayzen__popey, but then it guys dark even earlier....00:14
popeyahayzen__: dont understand the question...?00:14
ahayzen__popey, i just claim i live in american...then people think i'm 'normal' by my online times ;)00:14
Elleopopey: the new terminal with effects is so cool00:15
ahayzen__popey, well the export wasn't working for me....but then i have to use xterm not gnome-terminal00:15
popeyElleo: yay!00:15
popeyElleo: thanks for being the first to spot it00:15
ahayzen__popey, but it seems to be set....00:15
Elleopopey: I am strongly tempted to make a matching keyboard theme now :P00:15
Elleowith a nice clunky mechanical keypress sound effect00:16
popey*YES* please!00:16
popeyElleo: i have a VT100 if you need keyboard sound samples ☻00:17
Elleoheh, nice00:17
popeyneed to figure out how to add a red banner to the settings screen to let people know the ones that are dialled down to zero are deliberately done to conserve battery/cpu00:18
Elleokind of makes me wish for a fullscreen option too, to hide the head00:18
popey+100:18
popeyI thought the same00:18
popeymaybe hide the header in a bottom edge swipe00:19
Elleoyeah00:19
popeywill speak to the new maintainer ㋛00:19
Elleopopey: who implemented the new effects? want to make sure to tell them how awesome they are :)00:20
popeyFilippo Scognamiglio00:20
popeyhttps://github.com/Swordfish9000:20
popeyhe's a terrificly lovely guy00:20
Elleodoes he hang out on irc at all?00:20
popeynot  much00:21
Elleookay, maybe I'll shot him an email then00:21
Elleoshoot*00:21
popeyplease do, he'd appreciate that00:21
popeyhe's getting a lot of love for cool-old-term00:21
popeybe nice to get some from our userbase00:21
Elleo:)00:21
popeyahayzen__: so I don't know what to do at this point..00:22
popeyahayzen__:  a bug against multimedia?00:23
ahayzen__popey, neither do i...and i'm sleeepy00:23
popeyheh00:23
popeyso much for being east-coast pretender!00:23
* ahayzen__ doesn't have his uni food to snack on00:23
popeyeat a phone00:23
ahayzen__i usually stay up to 4am ...but gotta get a train tomoz.... popey i don't have any Apple phones?00:23
popeyhaha00:24
popeytouche00:24
ahayzen__hehe00:24
popeyok, ahayzen__ I'll file a speculative bug and see how we go00:24
ahayzen__popey, cool feel free to link my branch and any of the logs we posted00:24
popeykk00:24
ahayzen__popey, and add clock/music as affected apps00:24
popeywill subscribe you00:24
popeyand assign you ㋛00:24
ahayzen__if u add music i get subscribed00:24
popeyah okay00:24
* ahayzen__ receives all music mail \o/00:25
popeythats probably easiest00:25
ahayzen__thanks popey nn o/00:28
popeynn00:28
fdklqdamn00:37
fdklqwhy theres nothing at devices?00:37
fdklqtheres no option to do anything is just like a clear option00:37
fdklqand i have the ubuntu-emulator package installed00:38
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Akiva-ThinkpadI for some reason feel guilty about not really caring about 3d printing01:56
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Akiva-Thinkpadwhich component do I want to invoke for a notifcation?02:36
* reveldevel is away: I'm busy02:55
Akiva-Thinkpadokay doke02:55
Akiva-Thinkpadhey all08:01
Akiva-ThinkpadRTM here yet?08:01
Akiva-Thinkpadbah I don't get this10:22
popeywat?10:22
Akiva-Thinkpadpopey, in calender app, I am trying to have a dialogue appear for creating new events10:22
Akiva-ThinkpadThat works alright10:22
Akiva-Thinkpadbut when the confirmation is done, and it returns, mouse inputs no longer work10:23
Akiva-Thinkpadand this is debugged QQmlExpression: Attempted to evaluate an expression in an invalid context10:23
popeyerk.10:23
Akiva-Thinkpadgoing back to the main calender page, the app is still responsive to left and right arrow buttons on my keyboard10:24
Akiva-Thinkpadits just I can't click any buttons with the mouse... very strange10:24
Akiva-Thinkpadthe function goes through fine too. It creates the event and everything10:25
Akiva-Thinkpadpopey, anyways, its a wishlist type of bug. I gather you are working weekends to finish the rtm. Any grunt work you need done?10:26
popeyAkiva-Thinkpad: well.. there's always http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ that list ☻10:27
Akiva-Thinkpadcool beans10:27
popeythen there's this list http://15.125.74.138:8000/10:28
popeywe have lists of lists! :D10:28
Akiva-Thinkpadha10:28
Akiva-Thinkpadwell will do what I can10:28
* popey hugs Akiva-Thinkpad 10:29
Akiva-ThinkpadScreenshotted, mounted on wall10:30
* ybon on the Utopic way10:38
* nik90_ is looking for QML reviewers for the clock app MPs10:52
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, do they need a device?10:53
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: no10:53
* Akiva-Thinkpad checks it10:53
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/conditionally-load-alarmmodel/+merge/23241210:53
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, do you intend to keep the console.log in this branch?10:55
* Akiva-Thinkpad is looking at the diff10:55
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: yeah although I am not sure about that throughout the entire app10:55
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: what do you recommend? Show console outputs or not?10:56
nik90_crap I just realised I can't land anything because of the crasher bug on utopic :/10:56
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, if the console logs serve a purpose for benchmarking; I would just comment them out. Although I am just a community contributor here; my opinion can be swayed :P10:58
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: I added them there initially to help out with debugging and see when a certain page loads.10:59
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: I think I should many of the console logs throughout the app10:59
nik90_remove*11:00
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, yah that is usually what I am using the debuggers for; to feel my way around the application. I usually take them out.11:00
Akiva-ThinkpadAgain though; if it was a benchmarking debug, I'd leave it in given its usefulness to other developers11:01
nik90_ok11:02
nik90_FYI I am also a community contributor :D11:03
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, :)11:03
Akiva-Thinkpadyou know that tab on the bottom; if there are no alarms, i think a label should be visible stating that there are none11:04
Akiva-Thinkpadsame thing exists in calender app; "No upcoming events"11:04
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: Actually we will be replacing that label with "Next Alarm in xx h x m". If there are no active alarms then, it shows "No Active Alarms"11:04
Akiva-Thinkpadah nice11:05
nik90_It was changed to "Alarms" until that feature lands as requested by QA.11:05
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: btw did you try the x86 Emulator?11:07
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, ermmm emulator?11:07
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: yes11:08
Akiva-Thinkpaddo you mean running the app on the desktop?11:08
Akiva-Thinkpadconsidering the desktop is x86 :P11:08
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: well yes but running in a emulator has its perks. It is essentially emulating the phone UI11:08
Akiva-Thinkpadoh neat11:09
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: so you will see the phone on-screen keyboard etc11:09
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: it replaces the real device nicely11:09
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/11:10
Akiva-ThinkpadI'm not sure what the commenting style is, so just correct me if I am off my rocker, but on the diff, 96,97,98 ; why do you have a 4 line comment when one suffices?11:10
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: ah that, well throughtout the clock app we try to not exceed 90 columns. When that happens we move to the next line.11:11
Akiva-Thinkpad:P11:11
* Akiva-Thinkpad takes a look at the tutorial, thanking nik90_ 11:13
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: ping me if you have trouble starting the emulator or running apps on it. I personally think it should replace the need for a real device and is quite handy.11:15
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, what package do I need to install?11:16
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: if you installed ubuntu-sdk you should already have everything, no?11:16
Akiva-Thinkpadnvm11:16
Akiva-Thinkpadlabel confused me11:16
Akiva-Thinkpadred herring :P11:17
nik90_also make sure you have ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa11:17
Akiva-ThinkpadCreating new emulator instance.11:18
Akiva-Thinkpaderrm11:18
Akiva-Thinkpad /bin/sh: 1: ubuntu-emulator: not found11:19
Akiva-Thinkpadam I creating an arm version, or an i386 version?11:20
nik90_i386 version11:20
nik90_try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-emulator11:20
Akiva-Thinkpadah yes11:21
nik90_I will make sure that gets appended to the tutorial11:21
Akiva-Thinkpad\o/11:21
Akiva-Thinkpadah man I am about to fall asleep11:24
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: ?11:24
Akiva-Thinkpad424 am :P11:24
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: oh..which timezone are you in?11:25
Akiva-ThinkpadPacific11:25
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: damn11:25
Akiva-Thinkpadno wonder why jono left :P11:25
nik90_lol11:25
Akiva-Thinkpadlol; tis fine. Whens RTM? Sunday?11:26
Akiva-Thinkpaderm monday ?11:26
nik90_not sure11:27
rpadovanipopey, hey :-)11:27
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rpadovanipopey, I'm not sure, but I think bug #1363314 is related to https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-33400 : on utopic there is gstreamer 1.0(?), but qtmultimedia needs gstreamer 0.1, and they aren't compatible11:31
ubot5bug 1363314 in Ubuntu Clock App "App fails to launch on up-to-date utopic desktop" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136331411:31
nik90_ybon: does postionSource start(), stop() work for you as expected on trusty?11:46
ybonnik90_: I'm not using them, as position is always active on OSMTouch :s11:47
nik90_ybon: isn't that bad for battery since you are constantly trying get the GPS coordinates of the user?11:48
ybongiven how much the 3G connection already consume, I fine with adding a bit more :p11:48
ybonI may need to add a switch, yes11:49
nik90_:)11:50
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popeyrpadovani: yo11:57
Akiva-Thinkpadnik90_, very cool to get this emulator up and running11:57
Akiva-Thinkpad!cookie11:57
ubot5Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!11:57
popeyrpadovani: interesting, maybe11:58
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Akiva-Thinkpadokay its 5am; time to head out11:58
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: alrite..gnite11:58
Akiva-Thinkpado/11:58
popeyAkiva-Thinkpad: o/11:58
nik90_Akiva-Thinkpad: awesome though11:58
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popeynik90_: text seems quite small on krillin12:00
popeynik90_: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-30-130348.png12:05
nik90_popey: that's what was recommended by design. I checked with them 3-4 times. Do the designers have krillin?12:06
popeypass12:06
popeydidnt kaleo bring this up?12:06
nik90_that's the issue I am afraid12:06
nik90_he did12:06
nik90_and I told him what I told you12:07
popeyok12:07
nik90_not sure how to proceed. If I ask again, they will insist it is fine. So they need krillin to make that decision12:08
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popeyI'll find out on monday what they have. May have to pop into London office and wave one under their noses.12:11
nik90_hehe12:13
Ghost1227Anyone know a good reference on writing indicator applets?12:20
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gerlowskijaballoons: ping16:58
popeygerlowskija: i dont expect balloons to be around this weekend.17:04
gerlowskijapopey: Yeah, I figured it'd be a little empty this weekend..but always worth a shot : )17:06
popey17:07
gerlowskijaI'm trying to work on this bug that appears in the calendar-app: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1347836.  I want to add some debugging into qtorganizer5-eds to see if the problem lies there, or in the calendar-app itself.  Does anyone know how I can run the calendar-app against my modified version of the qtorganizer5-eds plugin17:29
gerlowskija?17:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1347836 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Events saved to birthdays calendar don't appear in timeline" [High,Confirmed]17:29
gerlowskijaI'm looking for an alternative to installing the plugin across my whole system I guess.17:30
Ghost1227So i just finished writing an app and i'm trying to build a deb for it... thus far, the guides i've found (including the official one) have failed. Following the official guide fails with an error indicating it can't find upstream sources (there aren't any).17:41
hakermaniaGhost1227, maybe try #ubuntu-packaging?18:00
Ghost1227oooh didn't know that existed, thanks18:01
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dakerhi t1mp_20:50

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