[00:00] <popey> ahayzen_: do you have qml-module-qtmultimedia installed?
[00:01] <ahayzen_> popey, yes
[00:02] <ahayzen_> popey, but interesting it doesn't appear on my trusty machine...$ apt-cache policy qml-module-qtmultimedia
[00:02] <ahayzen_> N: Unable to locate package qml-module-qtmultimedia
[00:02] <ahayzen_> popey, but yes it is on the VM
[00:02] <popey> qml-module-qtmultimedia looks to be a virtual/dummy package
[00:04] <ahayzen_> popey, ah yes looks at the depends
[00:04] <ahayzen_> 'breaks/replaces qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin'
[00:06] <popey> ok, progress!
[00:06] <popey> ok, progress!
[00:06] <popey> i can get your app running
[00:07] <popey> on a live cd install qmlscene, export QT_SELECT=qt5
[00:07] <popey> then run it
[00:07] <ahayzen__> oh god not this again
[00:08] <popey> hah
[00:08] <ahayzen__> hmm don't think it worked for me
[00:08] <popey> i get the usual Hello / Tap me! thing
[00:09] <ahayzen__> yeah its just the Simple UI
[00:10] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey all
[00:10] <ahayzen__> o/
[00:10] <popey> word
[00:10] <popey> so all i did was install qmlscene and qtfoo5-qtmm-plugin
[00:11] <popey> and setting the env var it works
[00:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> o_O
[00:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> shouldnt you guys be asleep?
[00:11] <ahayzen__> hmmm
[00:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> you guys are never on at this time :P
[00:11] <ahayzen__> Akiva-Thinkpad, yeah probably its 1am
[00:11] <ahayzen__> popey, can u export in xterm....
[00:11]  * Akiva-Thinkpad hates pacific time zone 
[00:14] <popey> ahayzen__: live in utc
[00:14] <popey>  /exec -o date -u
[00:14] <popey> ☻
[00:14] <popey> Sat Aug 30 00:14:28 UTC 2014
[00:14] <popey> looks much better!
[00:14] <ahayzen__> popey, but then it guys dark even earlier....
[00:14] <popey> ahayzen__: dont understand the question...?
[00:14] <ahayzen__> popey, i just claim i live in american...then people think i'm 'normal' by my online times ;)
[00:15] <Elleo> popey: the new terminal with effects is so cool
[00:15] <ahayzen__> popey, well the export wasn't working for me....but then i have to use xterm not gnome-terminal
[00:15] <popey> Elleo: yay!
[00:15] <popey> Elleo: thanks for being the first to spot it
[00:15] <ahayzen__> popey, but it seems to be set....
[00:15] <Elleo> popey: I am strongly tempted to make a matching keyboard theme now :P
[00:16] <Elleo> with a nice clunky mechanical keypress sound effect
[00:16] <popey> *YES* please!
[00:17] <popey> Elleo: i have a VT100 if you need keyboard sound samples ☻
[00:17] <Elleo> heh, nice
[00:18] <popey> need to figure out how to add a red banner to the settings screen to let people know the ones that are dialled down to zero are deliberately done to conserve battery/cpu
[00:18] <Elleo> kind of makes me wish for a fullscreen option too, to hide the head
[00:18] <popey> +1
[00:18] <popey> I thought the same
[00:19] <popey> maybe hide the header in a bottom edge swipe
[00:19] <Elleo> yeah
[00:19] <popey> will speak to the new maintainer ㋛
[00:20] <Elleo> popey: who implemented the new effects? want to make sure to tell them how awesome they are :)
[00:20] <popey> Filippo Scognamiglio
[00:20] <popey> https://github.com/Swordfish90
[00:20] <popey> he's a terrificly lovely guy
[00:20] <Elleo> does he hang out on irc at all?
[00:21] <popey> not  much
[00:21] <Elleo> okay, maybe I'll shot him an email then
[00:21] <Elleo> shoot*
[00:21] <popey> please do, he'd appreciate that
[00:21] <popey> he's getting a lot of love for cool-old-term
[00:21] <popey> be nice to get some from our userbase
[00:21] <Elleo> :)
[00:22] <popey> ahayzen__: so I don't know what to do at this point..
[00:23] <popey> ahayzen__:  a bug against multimedia?
[00:23] <ahayzen__> popey, neither do i...and i'm sleeepy
[00:23] <popey> heh
[00:23] <popey> so much for being east-coast pretender!
[00:23]  * ahayzen__ doesn't have his uni food to snack on
[00:23] <popey> eat a phone
[00:23] <ahayzen__> i usually stay up to 4am ...but gotta get a train tomoz.... popey i don't have any Apple phones?
[00:24] <popey> haha
[00:24] <popey> touche
[00:24] <ahayzen__> hehe
[00:24] <popey> ok, ahayzen__ I'll file a speculative bug and see how we go
[00:24] <ahayzen__> popey, cool feel free to link my branch and any of the logs we posted
[00:24] <popey> kk
[00:24] <ahayzen__> popey, and add clock/music as affected apps
[00:24] <popey> will subscribe you
[00:24] <popey> and assign you ㋛
[00:24] <ahayzen__> if u add music i get subscribed
[00:24] <popey> ah okay
[00:25]  * ahayzen__ receives all music mail \o/
[00:25] <popey> thats probably easiest
[00:28] <ahayzen__> thanks popey nn o/
[00:28] <popey> nn
[00:37] <fdklq> damn
[00:37] <fdklq> why theres nothing at devices?
[00:37] <fdklq> theres no option to do anything is just like a clear option
[00:38] <fdklq> and i have the ubuntu-emulator package installed
[01:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I for some reason feel guilty about not really caring about 3d printing
[02:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> which component do I want to invoke for a notifcation?
[02:55]  * reveldevel is away: I'm busy
[02:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay doke
[08:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey all
[08:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> RTM here yet?
[10:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bah I don't get this
[10:22] <popey> wat?
[10:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> popey, in calender app, I am trying to have a dialogue appear for creating new events
[10:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> That works alright
[10:23] <Akiva-Thinkpad> but when the confirmation is done, and it returns, mouse inputs no longer work
[10:23] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and this is debugged QQmlExpression: Attempted to evaluate an expression in an invalid context
[10:23] <popey> erk.
[10:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> going back to the main calender page, the app is still responsive to left and right arrow buttons on my keyboard
[10:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> its just I can't click any buttons with the mouse... very strange
[10:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> the function goes through fine too. It creates the event and everything
[10:26] <Akiva-Thinkpad> popey, anyways, its a wishlist type of bug. I gather you are working weekends to finish the rtm. Any grunt work you need done?
[10:27] <popey> Akiva-Thinkpad: well.. there's always http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ that list ☻
[10:27] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cool beans
[10:28] <popey> then there's this list http://15.125.74.138:8000/ ㋛
[10:28] <popey> we have lists of lists! :D
[10:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ha
[10:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> well will do what I can
[10:29]  * popey hugs Akiva-Thinkpad 
[10:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Screenshotted, mounted on wall
[10:38]  * ybon on the Utopic way
[10:52]  * nik90_ is looking for QML reviewers for the clock app MPs
[10:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, do they need a device?
[10:53] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: no
[10:53]  * Akiva-Thinkpad checks it
[10:53] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/conditionally-load-alarmmodel/+merge/232412
[10:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, do you intend to keep the console.log in this branch?
[10:55]  * Akiva-Thinkpad is looking at the diff
[10:55] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: yeah although I am not sure about that throughout the entire app
[10:56] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: what do you recommend? Show console outputs or not?
[10:56] <nik90_> crap I just realised I can't land anything because of the crasher bug on utopic :/
[10:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, if the console logs serve a purpose for benchmarking; I would just comment them out. Although I am just a community contributor here; my opinion can be swayed :P
[10:59] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: I added them there initially to help out with debugging and see when a certain page loads.
[10:59] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: I think I should many of the console logs throughout the app
[11:00] <nik90_> remove*
[11:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, yah that is usually what I am using the debuggers for; to feel my way around the application. I usually take them out.
[11:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Again though; if it was a benchmarking debug, I'd leave it in given its usefulness to other developers
[11:02] <nik90_> ok
[11:03] <nik90_> FYI I am also a community contributor :D
[11:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, :)
[11:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> you know that tab on the bottom; if there are no alarms, i think a label should be visible stating that there are none
[11:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> same thing exists in calender app; "No upcoming events"
[11:04] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: Actually we will be replacing that label with "Next Alarm in xx h x m". If there are no active alarms then, it shows "No Active Alarms"
[11:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah nice
[11:05] <nik90_> It was changed to "Alarms" until that feature lands as requested by QA.
[11:07] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: btw did you try the x86 Emulator?
[11:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, ermmm emulator?
[11:08] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: yes
[11:08] <Akiva-Thinkpad> do you mean running the app on the desktop?
[11:08] <Akiva-Thinkpad> considering the desktop is x86 :P
[11:08] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: well yes but running in a emulator has its perks. It is essentially emulating the phone UI
[11:09] <Akiva-Thinkpad> oh neat
[11:09] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: so you will see the phone on-screen keyboard etc
[11:09] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: it replaces the real device nicely
[11:10] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/
[11:10] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm not sure what the commenting style is, so just correct me if I am off my rocker, but on the diff, 96,97,98 ; why do you have a 4 line comment when one suffices?
[11:11] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: ah that, well throughtout the clock app we try to not exceed 90 columns. When that happens we move to the next line.
[11:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :P
[11:13]  * Akiva-Thinkpad takes a look at the tutorial, thanking nik90_ 
[11:15] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: ping me if you have trouble starting the emulator or running apps on it. I personally think it should replace the need for a real device and is quite handy.
[11:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, what package do I need to install?
[11:16] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: if you installed ubuntu-sdk you should already have everything, no?
[11:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nvm
[11:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> label confused me
[11:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> red herring :P
[11:17] <nik90_> also make sure you have ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[11:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Creating new emulator instance.
[11:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> errm
[11:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad>  /bin/sh: 1: ubuntu-emulator: not found
[11:20] <Akiva-Thinkpad> am I creating an arm version, or an i386 version?
[11:20] <nik90_> i386 version
[11:20] <nik90_> try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-emulator
[11:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah yes
[11:21] <nik90_> I will make sure that gets appended to the tutorial
[11:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> \o/
[11:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah man I am about to fall asleep
[11:24] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: ?
[11:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> 424 am :P
[11:25] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: oh..which timezone are you in?
[11:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Pacific
[11:25] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: damn
[11:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> no wonder why jono left :P
[11:25] <nik90_> lol
[11:26] <Akiva-Thinkpad> lol; tis fine. Whens RTM? Sunday?
[11:26] <Akiva-Thinkpad> erm monday ?
[11:27] <nik90_> not sure
[11:27] <rpadovani> popey, hey :-)
[11:31] <rpadovani> popey, I'm not sure, but I think bug #1363314 is related to https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-33400 : on utopic there is gstreamer 1.0(?), but qtmultimedia needs gstreamer 0.1, and they aren't compatible
[11:46] <nik90_> ybon: does postionSource start(), stop() work for you as expected on trusty?
[11:47] <ybon> nik90_: I'm not using them, as position is always active on OSMTouch :s
[11:48] <nik90_> ybon: isn't that bad for battery since you are constantly trying get the GPS coordinates of the user?
[11:48] <ybon> given how much the 3G connection already consume, I fine with adding a bit more :p
[11:49] <ybon> I may need to add a switch, yes
[11:50] <nik90_> :)
[11:57] <popey> rpadovani: yo
[11:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90_, very cool to get this emulator up and running
[11:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie
[11:58] <popey> rpadovani: interesting, maybe
[11:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay its 5am; time to head out
[11:58] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: alrite..gnite
[11:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> o/
[11:58] <popey> Akiva-Thinkpad: o/
[11:58] <nik90_> Akiva-Thinkpad: awesome though
[12:00] <popey> nik90_: text seems quite small on krillin
[12:05] <popey> nik90_: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-30-130348.png
[12:06] <nik90_> popey: that's what was recommended by design. I checked with them 3-4 times. Do the designers have krillin?
[12:06] <popey> pass
[12:06] <popey> didnt kaleo bring this up?
[12:06] <nik90_> that's the issue I am afraid
[12:06] <nik90_> he did
[12:07] <nik90_> and I told him what I told you
[12:07] <popey> ok
[12:08] <nik90_> not sure how to proceed. If I ask again, they will insist it is fine. So they need krillin to make that decision
[12:11] <popey> I'll find out on monday what they have. May have to pop into London office and wave one under their noses.
[12:13] <nik90_> hehe
[12:20] <Ghost1227> Anyone know a good reference on writing indicator applets?
[16:58] <gerlowskija> balloons: ping
[17:04] <popey> gerlowskija: i dont expect balloons to be around this weekend.
[17:06] <gerlowskija> popey: Yeah, I figured it'd be a little empty this weekend..but always worth a shot : )
[17:07] <popey> ☻
[17:29] <gerlowskija> I'm trying to work on this bug that appears in the calendar-app: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1347836.  I want to add some debugging into qtorganizer5-eds to see if the problem lies there, or in the calendar-app itself.  Does anyone know how I can run the calendar-app against my modified version of the qtorganizer5-eds plugin
[17:29] <gerlowskija> ?
[17:30] <gerlowskija> I'm looking for an alternative to installing the plugin across my whole system I guess.
[17:41] <Ghost1227> So i just finished writing an app and i'm trying to build a deb for it... thus far, the guides i've found (including the official one) have failed. Following the official guide fails with an error indicating it can't find upstream sources (there aren't any).
[18:00] <hakermania> Ghost1227, maybe try #ubuntu-packaging?
[18:01] <Ghost1227> oooh didn't know that existed, thanks
[20:50] <daker> hi t1mp_