[04:12] <orbisvicis> I've added this ppa, and I'm wondering why I can't see "binutils-2.24-5ubuntu6", which according to launchpad is [1] successfully built [2] published last month [3] for trusty (my version) [4] built on i386 (my arch)
[04:12] <orbisvicis> ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test
[04:13] <orbisvicis> according to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/4281528/+listing-archive-extra
[04:49] <cjwatson> orbisvicis: ubuntu-toolchain-r/test ~= ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa
[04:49] <cjwatson> er !=
[04:50] <cjwatson> if you added only the former then you aren't going to see packages only published in the latter
[04:57] <orbisvicis> oh
[05:06] <orbisvicis> didn't realize they were different ppas
[05:06] <orbisvicis> cjwatson: these are semi-official repositories. Do you know if it would be ok to mix test/ppa ?
[05:07] <cjwatson> No idea.  doko might.
[05:07] <orbisvicis> doko: ping
[05:07] <orbisvicis> my hunch is probably
[05:07] <cjwatson> I wouldn't have thought that it was really safe to use ubuntu-toolchain-r/test at all, though.
[05:08] <cjwatson> You know, test builds and all.  Could be arbitrarily broken.
[05:09] <orbisvicis> true but ubuntu-toolchain-r/test only updates gcc. afaik gcc is user-only, so it couldn't break the system or any packages
[05:10] <orbisvicis> maybe dkms ?
[05:10] <cjwatson> libgcc1 is used by practically every binary on the system.
[05:11] <orbisvicis> hmm
[05:11] <cjwatson> And there's no guarantee that the set of packages in a test PPA will remain constant
[05:11] <cjwatson> Those are generally meant for build tests, not for people not familiar with the test in question to use
[05:11] <cjwatson> Well, build and does-it-work tests
[05:15] <orbisvicis> looks like I laready jumped off the deep end / no harm mixing in ppa as well.
[05:16] <orbisvicis> I need a version of gcc that fixes a bug in 4.8.2 (trusty) and is compiled with cloog/isl support (test)
[05:18] <orbisvicis> and I need a version of binutils that works with LTO (2.24.5ubuntu6), I think. autoconf is being dumb and ignoring AR=
[05:36] <orbisvicis> ah well thanks
[05:36] <orbisvicis> see how it goes after a reboot
[07:30] <Ghost1227> quick question... in 14.04, the places sidebar was moved from nautilus to gtk, does anyone know what actual package that was moved to?
[09:49] <Noskcaj> charles, Is there any chance of you porting indicator-power to upower 0.99 this cycle?
[09:50] <Noskcaj> It's the only thing blocking the transition
[10:06] <melodie> hi
[10:09] <melodie> I would like to request a mentor for a remix project (Bento, aka Ubuntu Openbox Remix). I was wondering if an Ubuntu developer would accept this hard task? :D
[10:10] <melodie> I just had the idea to jump here to ask, while filling a list of packages and default configuration files to be put into packages
[10:14] <darkxst> melodie, hi
[10:14] <melodie> the goal is to switch from doing remixes with end user tools such as Ubuntu builder to tools on build server
[10:15] <darkxst> I suspect you might get more help here, asking about very specific problems that you are stuck on ;)
[10:15] <melodie> darkxst you here! hello!
[10:15] <darkxst> melodie, I am everywhere!
[10:15] <melodie> darkxst will do eventuelly, later, for now I am working on the files which contain the lists
[10:15] <darkxst> well if ~10 channels counts
[10:16] <darkxst> melodie, you should be working on your seeds ;)
[10:16] <melodie> yes it counts :)
[10:16] <melodie> darkxst the lists come before seeds, I can't do seeds as long as I don't have everything packaged and I need to do packages starting from something: that's the lists
[10:17] <melodie> the lists are online, I'll just update them now
[10:19] <melodie> darkxst within a week or so I'll create a new account on the LP for the project and the ppa
[10:20] <melodie> darkxst can we discuss in private for a few minutes?
[10:23] <darkxst> melodie, ok, but ping me in 15mins
[10:23] <melodie> done :D
[11:03] <JEEB> I guess this is the utopic channel. I wonder if anyone else has a 1st gen macbook (the intel core duo one) around - I'm seeing various issues with the 3.16 kernel with it and I'd like to check if I'm the only one
[11:04] <JEEB> basically I think it's a single issue (probably related to the intel video driver), and it happens during boot
[11:04] <melodie> JEEB the Lubuntu team just asked for testers with Mac machines, you might want to check the qa-lubuntu ml
[11:04] <melodie> ?
[11:05] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa
[11:05] <JEEB> melodie, that seems to be PPC
[11:06] <JEEB> at least looking at the thread name
[11:06] <JEEB> > *** NEED PPC TESTERS URGENTLY *** (?)
[11:06] <JEEB> and then there's ppc and amd64+ mac testers call
[11:06] <JEEB> and I'm neither
[11:06] <JEEB> core duo is IA32-only
[11:06] <JEEB> :D
[11:06] <melodie> possible, though my guess is that all users of machines having MAC are probably very welcome (and here is not specifically Unicorn so, you could also join #lubuntu on freenode)
[11:07] <JEEB> ok
[11:07] <JEEB> I just noticed #ubuntu-next was empty
[11:07] <JEEB> so I looked at the InternetRelayChat wiki article linked @ #ubuntu's topic
[11:07] <JEEB> so which is the utopic channel?
[11:09] <JEEB> oh right
[11:09] <JEEB> ubuntu+1
[11:09] <JEEB> pardon me for the intrusion :)
[11:11] <melodie> JEEB I am 100%, no 200% sure that at #lubuntu (and you can also join #phillw) your input will be used
[11:11] <melodie> and that you will be very welcome
[11:14]  * darkxst thinks most intel macs do not need a special build anymore
[11:14] <darkxst> just use the amd64 images
[11:34] <melodie> bye
[13:35] <ricotz> cjwatson, hello, i hope you could take a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/granite/2014.2~b2-0ubuntu1 which is a rouge upload imo and overrides the original granite package
[13:35] <ricotz> cjwatson, i would appreciate if this proposed package gets removed
[13:38] <ricotz> zul, hi, please get your granite in utopic/proposed removed
[14:35] <cjwatson> ricotz: oh goodness, yes.  done
[14:35] <cjwatson> zul: ^- please use a package name that doesn't hijack something already in the archive
[14:40] <ricotz> cjwatson, thanks!
[20:37] <P-NuT> Hey all,
[20:39] <P-NuT> Is there an article describing how to make status icons in the top bar?
[21:29] <Sven_vB> i'm installing Ubuntu trusty from Live USB, and near "reticulating splines" i chroot into the target file system in order to adjust grub menu settings. my distribution name is generated by an expression that contains $(hostname -s), which currently yields "ubuntu". is there a way to change my invocation of ubdate-grub so that its lookup will yield the target hostname instead of the live session hostname, or do i absolutely have to chang
[21:29] <Sven_vB> e the distribution lookup command?