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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:35 |
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| foobarry | brobostigon: do you plot the number of online users in this chan too? | 13:39 |
| foobarry | be interested to see if there's been a downward trend in last couple of years | 13:40 |
| brobostigon | i do not, no. | 13:40 |
| foobarry | sure there used to be around 130 on average | 13:40 |
| brobostigon | ok, | 13:40 |
| popey | you could proably go back over irclogs.ubuntu.com and see how many people spoke | 13:41 |
| foobarry | when freenode splits and rejoins it tends to annouce the no of people in the join | 13:43 |
| popey | not logged unfortunately | 13:44 |
| foobarry | meh | 13:44 |
| foobarry | doesn't matter | 13:44 |
| popey | i agree with you though | 13:45 |
| popey | things are quieter | 13:45 |
| foobarry | and summer is quiet still of course | 13:45 |
| * popey tickles bigcalm | 13:47 | |
| foobarry | irc is in decline generally i suppose | 13:47 |
| shauno | last I heard most irc networks were in decline, but freenode was bucking the trend | 13:48 |
| foobarry | http://royal.pingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/irc.001.jpg | 13:48 |
| popey | 570616 | 13:48 |
| foobarry | http://royal.pingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/irc.002.jpg | 13:49 |
| foobarry | shauno: ^^ | 13:49 |
| shauno | ah yes, that's the exact article :) | 13:49 |
| popey | what do people use instead? | 13:49 |
| popey | MSN ? ☻ | 13:49 |
| popey | heh, I just pinged someone on MSN who I haven't spoken to for some years | 13:50 |
| shauno | I Think facebook's pretty much eaten everything at this point | 13:51 |
| popey | yeah | 13:51 |
| foobarry | that should go into reverse soon , | 13:51 |
| shauno | even people I used to talk to on google talk/chat/whatever, I talk to on fb now that google have broken federation | 13:51 |
| foobarry | i was messaging some people recently and only 2 have seen the message | 13:51 |
| foobarry | the other 3 haven't installed facebook messenger on their phone | 13:52 |
| popey | my wife only uses fb messenger now | 13:52 |
| popey | although she went to a party and someone introduced her to whatsapp | 13:52 |
| popey | she came home and asked why I'd never shown it to her! | 13:52 |
| foobarry | although my phone delivers fb messages still witohut the separate app | 13:52 |
| foobarry | cos its expensive ... $0.99 per year! | 13:52 |
| popey | I've started using telegram | 13:52 |
| foobarry | telegram sucks for group messages | 13:53 |
| popey | people pay for it? | 13:53 |
| foobarry | whatapp charge you after 1 yr of use | 13:53 |
| popey | news to me | 13:53 |
| foobarry | at least telegram doesn't have th esilly artificial restrictions of twitter | 13:53 |
| foobarry | or all phone types, WhatsApp is free to download and try for the first year. After, you have the option of extending your subscription for $0.99 USD per year. | 13:55 |
| DJones | Is it safe to remove the ubuntuone indicator from the top bar in 14.04? and if so what the best safest method? Synaptic lists ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client-data as being installed | 14:08 |
| popey | yes | 14:08 |
| popey | remove both | 14:08 |
| DJones | And ubuntuone-control-panel? | 14:09 |
| popey | ya | 14:09 |
| popey | you dont need any of them | 14:09 |
| DJones | Ta | 14:09 |
| DJones | To be removed includes ubuntu-desktop is that just the meta-package | 14:09 |
| popey | oof | 14:10 |
| popey | i thought we already removed it from the seed | 14:10 |
| DJones | That comes from complete removal of ubuntuone-client-data | 14:10 |
| popey | i guess not then | 14:10 |
| DJones | I think maybe I may leave it for a while & see if I can find a guide for that, certainly don't want to remove ubuntu-desktop | 14:11 |
| DJones | Ubuntuone-client wants to remove deja-dup-backend-ubuntuone and ubuntuone-control-panel | 14:12 |
| popey | makes sense | 14:13 |
| DJones | ubuntuone-client-data wants to remove deja-dup-backend-ubuntuone, python-ubuntuone-client, python-ubuntuone-control-panel, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-sso-client-qt and ubuntuone-control-panel | 14:14 |
| DJones | Removing ubuntu-desktop seems somewhat bad looking at the "depends" for the package http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-desktop | 14:17 |
| popey | it wont remove those too | 14:18 |
| popey | i thought we had this sorted with an update | 14:19 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/309122/removing-ubuntu-one | 14:19 |
| DJones | I'll give that 1st answer a go, 58 upvotes looks positive | 14:21 |
| DJones | Thanks popey, worked a charm | 14:24 |
| * DJones upvotes popey | 14:25 | |
| * foobarry removes it too | 14:28 | |
| foobarry | signs in to upvote and notices u1 logos on the openid pages | 14:29 |
| foobarry | 60 upvotes :P | 14:30 |
| popey | U1 does still exist | 14:39 |
| popey | it's only the file sharing bit that shut down | 14:39 |
| foobarry | and notes :( | 14:42 |
| foobarry | look out for the vulcan | 14:43 |
| foobarry | on its way to bournemoth | 14:43 |
| foobarry | just passed newbury | 14:44 |
| popey | grrr, utopic desktop is not using the nvidia driver for some reason | 14:52 |
| popey | nvidia driver installed and built. | 14:53 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8188295/ xorg.log | 14:53 |
| popey | [ 12.756] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) | 14:53 |
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| foobarry | those uujkji~. | 15:08 |
| foobarry | woops. lost internet | 15:09 |
| Buffy743687 | Slight problemo /uk http://paste.ubuntu.com/8188486/ | 15:24 |
| foobarry | Buffy743687: did you succesfully change thepassword? | 15:26 |
| Buffy743687 | no | 15:27 |
| Buffy743687 | It said I had a token manipulation error. | 15:27 |
| foobarry | maybe you changed the root password | 15:27 |
| foobarry | To reset your password type this in | 15:27 |
| foobarry | passwd <username> | 15:27 |
| foobarry | did you do that? | 15:27 |
| Buffy743687 | yes .. but I didn't change the password using sudo .. Is that what you mean ? | 15:28 |
| foobarry | i wondered why the To reset your password type this in | 15:29 |
| foobarry | woops | 15:29 |
| foobarry | i wondered why the lost password link didn't work | 15:29 |
| foobarry | on help.ubuntu | 15:30 |
| foobarry | using init=/bin/bash at the end of grub line | 15:31 |
| foobarry | then changing the password | 15:31 |
| Buffyy34257 | foobarry: Still problemos .. you there .. I pinged out for 5 minutes, sorry. | 15:43 |
| foobarry | are you following the directions exactly? | 15:50 |
| Buffyy34257 | I believe so .. I tried several times .. including the appending the grub menu .. What is a token Manipulation error, then ? | 15:55 |
| foobarry | try passwd -d <username> first | 15:59 |
| foobarry | to delete the password | 15:59 |
| Buffyy34257 | foobarry: Oh maybe notit says cannot lock /etc/shadow .. I'm am sorry I am a new user. | 16:00 |
| Buffyy34257 | foobarry: It Says= passwd: cannot lock /etc/shadow; try again later. | 16:02 |
| Buffyy34257 | I only have four hours to sort this mess out . I'm in a bit of a fix . | 16:04 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: What's the output of this command? ls /etc/*.lock | 16:05 |
| Buffyy34257 | No such file or directory .. ls: cannot access /etc/*.lock | 16:07 |
| Buffyy34257 | I may need to mount first .. but I am at my username .. alright. | 16:07 |
| Buffyy34257 | back soon .. dinner just pinged. #nomnomnom | 16:08 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: mount? Did you boot from a LiceCD or something? | 16:09 |
| moreati | *LiveCD | 16:09 |
| Buffyy34257 | no .. standard install . | 16:09 |
| Buffyy34257 | 14.04 desktop +Unity | 16:09 |
| Buffyy34257 | here's wat I did : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8188486/ Althou I may have just altered the 'root' password thou ? #notAquestion .. but you get my meaning. | 16:11 |
| moreati | Unless you did something unusual, then the user called root has no password on Ubuntu | 16:13 |
| Buffyy34257 | fair enough .. but wat does " Token Manipulation error " sound like to you ? | 16:15 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/91188/authentication-token-manipulation-error | 16:15 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: What does the command prompt you're at say. Type it or paste it exactly as you see it | 16:15 |
| popey | fs is mounted ro probably | 16:16 |
| popey | need to mount -o remount,rw / | 16:16 |
| popey | then do the passwd change | 16:16 |
| * popey goes to play games | 16:16 | |
| Buffyy34257 | root@FseidScreeuyn:~# | 16:16 |
| Buffyy34257 | cheers popey | 16:16 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: popey's almost certainly right | 16:17 |
| moreati | (price I pay for taking the long route) | 16:17 |
| Buffyy34257 | I dont understand wat to put on the grub 'linux' line after pressing 'e' .. | 16:20 |
| Buffyy34257 | after the root=UUID= ... it says ro quiet splash $vt_handoff | 16:21 |
| Buffyy34257 | where do I put it in there ? | 16:21 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: you don't need to do anything at grub. You're already at the command prompt where you type that remount command | 16:21 |
| Buffyy34257 | Oh Ok .. will do. | 16:21 |
| Buffyy34257 | how do I know that is has mouned .. what command s that to find out ? | 16:30 |
| Buffyy34257 | **mounted .. please ? | 16:31 |
| moreati | mount | grep ' / ' | 16:31 |
| moreati | note the spaces between the quote marks | 16:31 |
| Buffyy34257 | it Says " /dev/sda1 on / type ext 4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) .. have I done that part, then ? | 16:33 |
| moreati | yes, rw means "read write" | 16:34 |
| Buffyy34257 | I'm typing # mount -o remount,rw / at the terminal hash sign. Oh .. O .. proceeding as planned then .. hang-on .. | 16:35 |
| Buffyy34257 | no it didn't work .. the password prompt just comes back up again .. Huh ? | 16:37 |
| Buffyy34257 | It said it changed it successfully though .. go figure. (?) | 16:38 |
| moreati | reboot and try it | 16:38 |
| Buffyy34257 | I shall try a complete shut down then stating it up again at the log-in screen. | 16:39 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: sorry, that's what I meant | 16:39 |
| Buffyy34257 | It says something about skipping 'mount' Is that something I need to be worried about ? | 16:40 |
| moreati | I don't know, without the full message | 16:40 |
| Buffyy34257 | Just a startup thing .. nothing serious .. anyway back to the log-in screen. | 16:41 |
| Buffyy34257 | Interesting. | 16:41 |
| Buffyy34257 | When I type the password in improperly it ust refreshes the "Password Box" however .. | 16:42 |
| Buffyy34257 | When I type my new password in 10x "z" .. It just goes blank for a second then return to he same log-in screen .. two passwords (one correct) .. same resulting login screen .. | 16:43 |
| Buffyy34257 | However when I type the correct password in It negates to say " Invalid password, please try again " .. which it does when I type the Password in incorrectly . | 16:44 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: press Ctrl+Alt+F1, try the password at the command prompt | 16:44 |
| moreati | Ctrl Alt F7 to return to the GUI | 16:45 |
| Buffyy34257 | yes!I'm In .. that did it. | 16:45 |
| moreati | right so your password is working, but Ubuntu can't load your desktop (.e.g. Uunity, KDE etc) | 16:46 |
| foobarry | next things to check might dmesg, disk free (df) and xserver logs. | 16:46 |
| Buffyy34257 | it says " signature ot ound in user keyring " OK .. what command Do you want me to bash out ? | 16:47 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: at the command prompt run ls - does it show the correct contents of your home directry? | 16:47 |
| Buffyy34257 | it says .. | 16:47 |
| Buffyy34257 | Access-Your-Private-data.desktop .ecryptfs .Private README.txt | 16:48 |
| Buffyy34257 | I did " ls -a " | 16:48 |
| popey | ruh roh | 16:49 |
| moreati | oh right, you had encryption setup then | 16:49 |
| Buffyy34257 | Rowing tonight ? | 16:49 |
| foobarry | maybe having a scooby snack | 16:49 |
| moreati | Scooby do speak for Uh oh! | 16:49 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: do you care about the contents of this home directory? | 16:50 |
| Buffyy34257 | There are files that I want to keep .. but privacy .. No. | 16:50 |
| moreati | Buffyy34257: Do you have backups of those files? | 16:51 |
| Buffyy34257 | Not yet. | 16:51 |
| foobarry | what you've esentially done is what a thief can do to your laptop | 16:51 |
| Buffyy34257 | That was this weekend's plan , actually. | 16:51 |
| foobarry | if the files are encrypted, you can't access them without password | 16:51 |
| Buffyy34257 | So there no way back .. if you forget your password, it would seem ? | 16:52 |
| foobarry | no, since you are in the same position as the thief atm without yuor old password | 16:53 |
| moreati | The whole point of an encrypted home is that you can't see the contents if you don't have the password | 16:53 |
| * Buffyy34257 consults bits of paper furiously around the lounge for clues :O | 16:54 | |
| popey | yeah, you need the old password | 16:54 |
| popey | then you can do this http://askubuntu.com/a/383269 | 16:55 |
| * popey goes out for curry. | 16:56 | |
| foobarry | mmm curry | 16:57 |
| popey | nom nom http://www.gurkhapalacerestaurant.co.uk/ | 16:58 |
| hirectdex | gah, another freeview renumbering? | 17:01 |
| foobarry | i havemnt retuned in yonks | 17:04 |
| foobarry | maybe ~1yr | 17:05 |
| foobarry | rescanned | 17:05 |
| Buffyy34257 | foobarry: Well I can't find it .. but there a $10 bounty going if anyone wants the mithering ? http://ow.ly/ATAsB | 17:22 |
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| Buffyy34257 | bye bye Septemberists. | 18:21 |
| * Myrtti raises an eyebrow | 18:26 | |
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| * popey returns from curry | 19:24 | |
| MartijnVdS | curreh | 19:25 |
| * foobarry returns from drwho | 19:40 | |
| foobarry | i need to find out how to block "hot on google" posts | 19:58 |
| foobarry | they are all chicks firing guns lately | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1686118?hl=en-GB | 19:59 |
| foobarry | ta | 20:01 |
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| foobarry | non intuitive | 20:01 |
| ali1234 | it's the same as muting posts from someone you follow | 20:01 |
| foobarry | i already had fewer, but the gun loving yanks just decided it for me | 20:02 |
| ali1234 | i had to mute my "canonical" circle during the edge campaign because they would all repost the exact same article every day and flood my stream | 20:03 |
| foobarry | heh | 20:05 |
| foobarry | yeah, i think i muted castro, bacon et al around the same time and didn't unmute after | 20:05 |
| ali1234 | g+ really needs to detect when everyone shares the same thing and only show it once | 20:05 |
| foobarry | yeah | 20:05 |
| foobarry | and a few other improvements needed | 20:06 |
| popey | yeah, it could do with a de-dupe | 20:11 |
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