[04:48] <justgreg> hey all, I can't get apt-get or the GUI to upgrade my low latency kernel. I get errors about space in /boot. I emptied my trash and ran apt-get clean already. What's next?
[04:49] <holstein> justgreg: well, personally, i dont have my production machine online, so, i would just use it without upgrading the kernel, but, what is the deal? are you on btrfs?
[04:50] <holstein> justgreg: otherwise, http://askubuntu.com/questions/142926/cant-upgrade-due-to-low-disk-space-on-boot looks like what i would do, *if* i indeed have a bunch of kernels installed
[04:50] <justgreg> holstein, ext4, I think.
[04:50] <holstein> justgreg: you think?
[04:50] <holstein> justgreg: anyways.. i would literally just try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[04:50] <holstein> ^ that should hurt anything, regarless of what you dont know about your system
[04:51] <justgreg> I've already done that, and I only have the one kernel installed.
[04:51] <holstein> justgreg: then, i would be testing my hardware, and seeing if i have something failing
[04:51] <holstein> justgreg: i would actuallly check /boot and see what is there
[04:52] <holstein> justgreg: i would try shaing the *exact* error..
[04:52] <holstein> sharing*
[04:53] <justgreg> holstein, what am I looking for there, and remind me how to get the GUI to prompt me for upgrades?
[04:53] <justgreg> *in /boot, I have it open now.
[04:53] <holstein> justgreg: it literally doesnt matter, gui or no
[04:53] <holstein> justgreg: i would do this..
[04:53] <holstein> sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:54] <holstein> then, i would reboot.. then, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share any errors
[04:54] <holstein> !paste
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[04:54] <justgreg> done. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove 3 not upgraded
[04:54] <justgreg> k, brb
[04:54] <holstein> justgreg: what is "done" ?
[04:54] <holstein> justgreg: ok..
[05:02] <justgreg> holstein, no error messages
[05:02] <holstein> justgreg: so, you are upgraded, then?
[05:03] <justgreg> all except those packages around the kernel.
[05:03] <holstein> justgreg: not sure what that means
[05:03] <holstein> justgreg: what are the errors when running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:04] <justgreg> No errors, just: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-lowlatency linux-image-lowlatency linux-lowlatency
[05:04] <holstein> justgreg: i know what i would do
[05:04] <justgreg> holstein, nvm, dist-upgrade seems to be doing it.
[05:04] <holstein> justgreg: are you running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[05:05] <justgreg> I guess it didn't run when it was && w/ update a minute ago.
[05:06] <justgreg> Are kernel upgrades not considered part of LTS?
[05:06] <justgreg> or is that at all related?
[05:07] <holstein> justgreg: the lts's are frozen.. the kernel upgrades are patches, basically.. unless something gets backported
[05:07] <holstein> all the releases are frozen like that, actually
[05:07] <holstein> not rolling releases
[05:09] <justgreg> So why do I keep getting told about these upgrades?
[05:09] <justgreg> *these = kernel upgrades
[05:09] <holstein> justgreg: told?
[05:09] <justgreg> They show up in my weekly GUI software updater prompts.
[05:09] <holstein> justgreg: if you ask to upgrade, you get upgrades.. as i said, you get patches
[05:09] <holstein> if there are security patches to the lts kernel, you get them
[05:10] <justgreg> I'm just not getting the disconnect where I have to run a separate command to get them to run.
[05:10] <holstein> justgreg: you dont
[05:10] <holstein> justgreg: or, i dont..
[05:10] <justgreg> :p right. That's why I came here. I never had, either.
[05:11] <holstein> justgreg: not sure whats up.. but, we just made your system upgrade, it seems.. if you have issues, i would try what i suggested "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which doesnt upgrade the distro
[05:12] <justgreg> Well, it's looking fixed. I have an astoundingly slow connection so I won't know for sure for another couple minutes.
[05:12] <justgreg> ty
[05:12] <holstein> justgreg: sure.. anymite
[05:12] <holstein> anytime*
[05:13] <justgreg> *and a reboot, of course
[05:14] <justgreg> so uh, what do you make w/ ubuntu studio, holstein?
[05:16] <holstein> http://holsteinmusic.com/ is some of my stuff
[05:16] <justgreg> holstein, ty
[05:17] <holstein> http://www.freejazzblog.org/2014/07/shane-perlowin-jacob-wick-objet.html
[05:17] <holstein> and some other mixing projects as well
[05:17] <justgreg> holstein, looking at it now.
[05:18] <holstein> how about you?
[05:19] <justgreg> I need some idea what direction I'm headed. I recently got a mini novation launchpad and trying to write how to make an app to make it all a full app.
[05:20] <holstein> justgreg: check out #opensourcemusicians
[05:20] <justgreg> *bear with me, a little recovering from epileptic seizure.
[05:20] <holstein> justgreg: sorry to hear that..
[05:20] <justgreg> thanks.
[05:21] <justgreg> I've seen the page. I'm in Indonesia, so no a lot of folks awake when I'm awake.
[05:21] <justgreg> holstein, so are you mostly recording your upright bass? What DAW are you using?
[05:25] <holstein> justgreg: well, i have those as solo recording that i own in every way
[05:25] <holstein> justgreg: the other things, i dont control fully
[05:25] <holstein> justgreg: but, yes.. here, i use ardour DAW in linux.. in ubuntu
[05:26] <holstein> i actually just started using mixbus as well, and quite like it
[08:42] <lin> hello
[08:43] <lin> help me please
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !ask | lin,
[08:43] <ubottu> lin,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[08:44] <lin> Sounds doesn't play on my ubuntu studio. Why ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> lin, check that sound is not muted
[08:45] <lin> where ?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !sound
[08:46] <ubottu> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[08:48] <lin> sound isn't muted. Music videos on youtube is muted and gmusicbrowser won't play musics
[08:48] <lin> (i'm french, sorry for my bad english)
[08:49] <cfhowlett> lin,  so NO sound from ANY source?
[08:49] <lin> yes
[08:50] <cfhowlett> lin, try headphones
[08:51] <lin> does'nt play with headphones
[08:52] <lin> same problem
[08:56] <cfhowlett> see the links above for your troubleshooting options.
[08:59] <lin> with this command, in terminal : sudo alsa force-reload,
[08:59] <lin> i have : /sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices:
[09:02] <lin> it's ok
[09:02] <lin> i have reinstall alsa
[09:02] <lin> thanks :)
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