[04:48] <justgreg> hey all, I can't get apt-get or the GUI to upgrade my low latency kernel. I get errors about space in /boot. I emptied my trash and ran apt-get clean already. What's next?
[04:49] <holstein> justgreg: well, personally, i dont have my production machine online, so, i would just use it without upgrading the kernel, but, what is the deal? are you on btrfs?
[04:50] <holstein> justgreg: otherwise, http://askubuntu.com/questions/142926/cant-upgrade-due-to-low-disk-space-on-boot looks like what i would do, *if* i indeed have a bunch of kernels installed
[04:50] <justgreg> holstein, ext4, I think.
[04:50] <holstein> justgreg: you think?
[04:50] <holstein> justgreg: anyways.. i would literally just try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[04:50] <holstein> ^ that should hurt anything, regarless of what you dont know about your system
[04:51] <justgreg> I've already done that, and I only have the one kernel installed.
[04:51] <holstein> justgreg: then, i would be testing my hardware, and seeing if i have something failing
[04:51] <holstein> justgreg: i would actuallly check /boot and see what is there
[04:52] <holstein> justgreg: i would try shaing the *exact* error..
[04:52] <holstein> sharing*
[04:53] <justgreg> holstein, what am I looking for there, and remind me how to get the GUI to prompt me for upgrades?
[04:53] <justgreg> *in /boot, I have it open now.
[04:53] <holstein> justgreg: it literally doesnt matter, gui or no
[04:53] <holstein> justgreg: i would do this..
[04:53] <holstein> sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:54] <holstein> then, i would reboot.. then, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share any errors
[04:54] <holstein> !paste
[04:54] <justgreg> done. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove 3 not upgraded
[04:54] <justgreg> k, brb
[04:54] <holstein> justgreg: what is "done" ?
[04:54] <holstein> justgreg: ok..
[05:02] <justgreg> holstein, no error messages
[05:02] <holstein> justgreg: so, you are upgraded, then?
[05:03] <justgreg> all except those packages around the kernel.
[05:03] <holstein> justgreg: not sure what that means
[05:03] <holstein> justgreg: what are the errors when running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:04] <justgreg> No errors, just: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-lowlatency linux-image-lowlatency linux-lowlatency
[05:04] <holstein> justgreg: i know what i would do
[05:04] <justgreg> holstein, nvm, dist-upgrade seems to be doing it.
[05:04] <holstein> justgreg: are you running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[05:05] <justgreg> I guess it didn't run when it was && w/ update a minute ago.
[05:06] <justgreg> Are kernel upgrades not considered part of LTS?
[05:06] <justgreg> or is that at all related?
[05:07] <holstein> justgreg: the lts's are frozen.. the kernel upgrades are patches, basically.. unless something gets backported
[05:07] <holstein> all the releases are frozen like that, actually
[05:07] <holstein> not rolling releases
[05:09] <justgreg> So why do I keep getting told about these upgrades?
[05:09] <justgreg> *these = kernel upgrades
[05:09] <holstein> justgreg: told?
[05:09] <justgreg> They show up in my weekly GUI software updater prompts.
[05:09] <holstein> justgreg: if you ask to upgrade, you get upgrades.. as i said, you get patches
[05:09] <holstein> if there are security patches to the lts kernel, you get them
[05:10] <justgreg> I'm just not getting the disconnect where I have to run a separate command to get them to run.
[05:10] <holstein> justgreg: you dont
[05:10] <holstein> justgreg: or, i dont..
[05:10] <justgreg> :p right. That's why I came here. I never had, either.
[05:11] <holstein> justgreg: not sure whats up.. but, we just made your system upgrade, it seems.. if you have issues, i would try what i suggested "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which doesnt upgrade the distro
[05:12] <justgreg> Well, it's looking fixed. I have an astoundingly slow connection so I won't know for sure for another couple minutes.
[05:12] <justgreg> ty
[05:12] <holstein> justgreg: sure.. anymite
[05:12] <holstein> anytime*
[05:13] <justgreg> *and a reboot, of course
[05:14] <justgreg> so uh, what do you make w/ ubuntu studio, holstein?
[05:16] <holstein> http://holsteinmusic.com/ is some of my stuff
[05:16] <justgreg> holstein, ty
[05:17] <holstein> http://www.freejazzblog.org/2014/07/shane-perlowin-jacob-wick-objet.html
[05:17] <holstein> and some other mixing projects as well
[05:17] <justgreg> holstein, looking at it now.
[05:18] <holstein> how about you?
[05:19] <justgreg> I need some idea what direction I'm headed. I recently got a mini novation launchpad and trying to write how to make an app to make it all a full app.
[05:20] <holstein> justgreg: check out #opensourcemusicians
[05:20] <justgreg> *bear with me, a little recovering from epileptic seizure.
[05:20] <holstein> justgreg: sorry to hear that..
[05:20] <justgreg> thanks.
[05:21] <justgreg> I've seen the page. I'm in Indonesia, so no a lot of folks awake when I'm awake.
[05:21] <justgreg> holstein, so are you mostly recording your upright bass? What DAW are you using?
[05:25] <holstein> justgreg: well, i have those as solo recording that i own in every way
[05:25] <holstein> justgreg: the other things, i dont control fully
[05:25] <holstein> justgreg: but, yes.. here, i use ardour DAW in linux.. in ubuntu
[05:26] <holstein> i actually just started using mixbus as well, and quite like it
[08:42] <lin> hello
[08:43] <lin> help me please
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !ask | lin,
[08:44] <lin> Sounds doesn't play on my ubuntu studio. Why ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> lin, check that sound is not muted
[08:45] <lin> where ?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !sound
[08:48] <lin> sound isn't muted. Music videos on youtube is muted and gmusicbrowser won't play musics
[08:48] <lin> (i'm french, sorry for my bad english)
[08:49] <cfhowlett> lin,  so NO sound from ANY source?
[08:49] <lin> yes
[08:50] <cfhowlett> lin, try headphones
[08:51] <lin> does'nt play with headphones
[08:52] <lin> same problem
[08:56] <cfhowlett> see the links above for your troubleshooting options.
[08:59] <lin> with this command, in terminal : sudo alsa force-reload,
[08:59] <lin> i have : /sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices:
[09:02] <lin> it's ok
[09:02] <lin> i have reinstall alsa
[09:02] <lin> thanks :)