[01:08] <kubutech> hi
[01:09] <kubutech> im new to kubuntu
[01:09] <kubutech> lost my plasma window panel on desktop can i ge tthat back?
[01:10] <kubutech> can't seem to find it-how to get it back on the desktop like it was when i finished the installation?
[03:29] <ArkaneCow> hmmm so if i install kubuntu 14.10 plasma 5 beta, can i upgrade later to the main releases? or is kubuntu 14.10 plasma 5 beta strictly for previewing purposes?
[03:30] <ArkaneCow> umm anyone? :S
[04:43] <branyon> join #1
[04:43] <branyon> #join 1
[05:13] <kubuntu_> ciao
[05:14] <il_cartaio> ciao a tutti
[05:22] <SporkWitch> after a fresh install of 14.04, i'm intermittently receiving a notice that an application (which it doesn't name) is repeatedly trying to access the wallet and that it might be malicious in nature.  the first of these was within a few minutes of the first boot.  what is a likely culprit for this, also, where can i find logs indicating access attempts? (also worth noting that i've yet to receive a
[05:23] <SporkWitch> single request for me to enter the master password; maybe something related to entering account info in kontact before i was prompted to set up the wallet?)
[08:59] <Mmike> Hello!
[09:00] <Mmike> Is there a way to configure muon in such way so that it actually shows packages being downloaded, and installed?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:00] <ljunggren> Hi, someone knows of a ppa with breeze themes?
[11:01] <BluesKaj> plasma5, ljunggren
[11:05] <ljunggren> BluesKaj: is that a ppa?
[11:05] <ljunggren> or you meant like *plasma5
[11:06] <SaEeDIRHA> hey guys , how can i have an individual  panel for my each Virtual Desktop ?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> ljunggren, most likely , i tried plasma 5 daily build on 14.10, but it's not ready for general usage
[11:07] <SaEeDIRHA> atm all the virtual desktops show the same panel and when i have an application open its visible in all panels of my virtual desktops
[11:08] <ljunggren> BluesKaj: i know, thats why im trying to theme kde4
[11:09] <SaEeDIRHA> well , no worries , found out how
[11:10] <BluesKaj> well afaik it's meant for 14.10 , dunno if it will run on 14.04
[11:10] <ljunggren> BluesKaj: it's just themes
[11:10] <ljunggren> BluesKaj: like this http://www.iwillfolo.com/2014/07/give-kde-plasma-5-looks-based-breeze-free-customization/
[11:10] <BluesKaj> probly freeze
[11:11] <ljunggren> freeze?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> ljunggren, ask in #kde
[11:12] <ljunggren> BluesKaj: they told me to ask in #kubuntu
[11:12] <BluesKaj> heh
[11:12] <ljunggren> since ppa is ubuntu specific lol
[11:12] <ljunggren> *buntu
[11:12] <ljunggren> but anyway, there dosent seem to exist a ppa of it so whatever, i just install it oldschool
[11:12] <BluesKaj> it might be found in kde-look
[11:12] <ljunggren> thanks for the help
[11:13] <BluesKaj> ljunggren, kde-look
[11:13] <BluesKaj> http://kde-look.org/
[11:14] <ljunggren> i know thanks, i was just wondering if anyone knew of a ppa that gathers them
[11:15] <BluesKaj> check launchpad
[11:18] <BluesKaj> ljunggren, or here, http://kde-look.org/content/search.php?PHPSESSID=04f7c602fccbf029c321ba035afa413e
[12:10] <ShalokShalom_> hi there :)
[12:11] <ShalokShalom_> how is the kubuntu logo called, on boot and shutdown ?
[12:11] <ikonia> plymouth
[12:11] <ShalokShalom_> thanks
[12:37] <allon> Hi
[12:37] <allon> I have two kubuntus on my pc a 10.04 and a 12.04
[12:38] <allon> I would like to replace the 10.04 by a 14.04
[12:39] <allon> I am in the installation program
[12:40] <allon> I can see my two ubuntu in the graphic bar
[12:41] <allon> I can see that my ubuntu 10.04 is on sda1 and my 12.04 on sda6
[12:42] <BluesKaj> allon, why not upgrade the 12.04 to 14.04 , much easier over the internet rather than having to do a clean install
[12:43] <allon> but from this point I can not click in the click box close to sda1
[12:44] <BluesKaj> then upgrade the 10.04 to 13.04 if you must
[12:44] <BluesKaj> err 10.04 to 12.04
[12:44] <allon> because all my zork is on the 12.04 and I don t want to loose it
[12:44] <BluesKaj> zork
[12:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:45] <allon> work
[12:45] <allon> french keyboard
[12:46] <allon> internet upgrade is safe?
[12:46] <allon> I did it a couple of years ago and it killed everything
[12:47] <allon> I thouht a clean install would be easier
[12:49] <BluesKaj> allon, do you have / and /home partitions?
[12:52] <allon> From Kubuntu installer I can only see /dev/sda /dev/sda1 etc
[12:53] <BluesKaj> allon, use manual partitioning
[12:53] <allon> I am in the manual partitionning par
[12:53] <allon> I am in the manual partitionning part
[12:53] <allon> I have copyed all my data to an external drive
[12:54] <allon> so I am ready to delete everything from the 10.04
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ok what's on sda?
[12:55] <allon> nothing on sda 10.04 on sda1 12.04 on sda6 swap on sda5
[12:59] <BluesKaj> so you have no /home partitions ...recommend you create separate / and /home
[12:59] <allon> ok
[12:59] <allon> but I also have no place anymore on my disk
[13:00] <allon> should I delete sda1?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> if you don't need 10.04 then yes
[13:01] <allon> I don t need it
[13:02] <allon> ok I delete it fro; the partition screen
[13:03] <allon> Ok now I have 186Megs free
[13:03] <allon> Create a nez partitionM
[13:03] <allon> ?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> now create a new / partition there , make it about 15G
[13:03] <allon> Create a new partition?
[13:04] <allon> Use as ?
[13:04] <allon> ext4?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ext4 yes
[13:05] <allon> mount point / or /home ?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> allon / first then resize to 15G , use /home with the remainder
[13:09] <BluesKaj>  / will probly be sda1 , then /home will be sda2
[13:10] <mcstr_> anyone knows where can i find the website template for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[13:10] <mcstr_> or any other good template where you can see on the first look that its linux/software//distro related
[13:12] <allon> so now I have /dev/sda1 ext4 /home 14998MB
[13:13] <BluesKaj> mcstr_, http://www.kubuntu.org/ dunno if the template is available tho
[13:14] <BluesKaj> allon the / shoud be 14998MB, /home should be much larger
[13:15] <allon> ok I see I change it
[13:15] <allon> so I assign the rest of the free space to my /home?
[13:16] <allon> its about 170 megs
[13:18] <BluesKaj> 170 mb is too small for anything 170G perhaps ?
[13:18] <mcstr_> BluesKaj i can't see any link to a template there but afair there was once somewhere the ubuntu/kubuntu templates for download
[13:18] <allon> 170G sorry
[13:19] <allon> Will Kubuntu be written to /
[13:19] <BluesKaj> ok allon then that's fine , did you create the /home mountpoint ?
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yes kubuntu will be written to /
[13:20] <allon> Yes I just did
[13:20] <allon> it is sda7 now
[13:20] <BluesKaj> then you're ready to install
[13:21] <allon> ok I have my button Install now
[13:22] <allon> but where do I tell him to install to sda1?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> allon, ok
[13:22] <BluesKaj> you already did
[13:23] <BluesKaj> by  creating the / and /home mountpoints
[13:23] <allon> oh great
[13:23] <BluesKaj> kubuntu will now install to /
[13:24] <allon> started !!!!!!
[13:25] <allon> great help
[13:25] <allon> I cqn continue to develop a bit of gcompris
[13:26] <allon> I could not since a few weeks use muon, it would not find packages
[13:27] <allon> I tryed to change repositories to old_archive or something like this, worked for some packages but not for phpmyadmin for exemple
[13:27] <allon> so I decided to jump to a new version
[13:28] <BluesKaj> allon, from now on if you wish to upgrade to the next OS release you just install it to / and /home will still have your config files and settings for the default apps
[13:29] <BluesKaj> and it's much faster if you need to reinstall for some reason
[13:29] <allon> this is great yes
[13:29] <allon> and by magic my keyboard went to french layout !!!
[13:29] <allon> much easier
[13:31] <allon> do you know if grub will update itself?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> yes it wiil, right at the finish of the install
[13:52] <allon> I am back but no 14.04 in my grub!
[13:52] <allon> only the old 10.04 and 12.04 is working perfectly
[13:53] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> allon, odd , did you update grub?
[13:54] <allon> no but I think I made a mistake
[13:55] <allon> before I started to put the / and the /home
[13:56] <allon> I set boot to /sda6 because there was no sda1 anymore
[13:56] <BluesKaj> look at your partitioner , you should see a / and a /home partition if you installed 14.04 correctly
[13:57] <BluesKaj> you edited a boot flag?
[13:58] <allon> just midified the choice in the drop box in kubuntu manual installer
[13:59] <BluesKaj> did you set the mountpoints in sda  by using the change button in the partitioner ?
[13:59] <allon> yes
[13:59] <allon> and I set it to sda6 which is the 12.04
[13:59] <allon> that was maybe my mistake
[14:00] <allon> I am in gparted and I can see the partition which correspond to / and /home
[14:00] <allon> no problem there
[14:00] <BluesKaj> are they on sda1 and probly 7 now
[14:01] <allon> yes you are right
[14:01] <BluesKaj> ok run sudo update-grub in the terminal ..see what comes up
[14:02] <allon> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (14.04) trouvé sur /dev/sda1
[14:02] <allon> fait
[14:02] <allon> :)
[14:02] <allon> I guess I just have to reboot now?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> bon!
[14:02] <allon> parfait
[14:03] <allon> I reboot
[14:03] <BluesKaj> hehe, no need to reboot
[14:11] <allon> Under 14.04 :) :) :)
[14:11] <allon> and managed to install pidgin
[14:11] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:12] <allon> Really thanks a lots, you spared me hours of forums reading
[14:12] <shattingduck> hello!
[14:12] <BluesKaj> glad to help allon
[14:13] <allon> Now a bit of data reinstallation
[14:14] <shattingduck> I h ave following problem: when I have 2 external harddisks connected to a pc running kubuntu 14.4 and try to copy 680 GB using the dolphin (copy and paste from one window to the other) after some minutes the source drive is unmounted and the files cannot be copied anymore. when I then abort the copying operation I can remount the drive..  same things happens when I use cp -r
[14:14] <shattingduck> so i am trying to copy from one external hdd to the other
[14:14] <shattingduck> what could be the problem
[14:16] <shattingduck> anyone here?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> shattingduck, and your permissions are properly set to full control for your user on both drives in share?
[14:18] <shattingduck> yes
[14:18] <shattingduck> the copying starts without problems... but doesn't last for long
[14:19] <BluesKaj> also make sure you have samba installed even if you use the network folder option
[14:19] <shattingduck> they are both connected through usb.. why would I need samba?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> exactly the question I asked, but after installing samba i had no more issues
[14:21] <BluesKaj> even tho i don't use the samba gui
[14:22] <shattingduck> you had the same problem?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:22] <shattingduck> hmmm....
[14:23] <shattingduck> these linux distros still have their quirks... what I like about kubuntu though is that it doesn't come to a stall during big file copying operations.. I have linux mint installed and the entire system is slowed because of it... it has to do with the prirority dolphin gets in linux mint. but how do I change it?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> think it's an smb config problem that samba seems to fix , that's all I can come up with
[14:24] <shattingduck> well there are soms samba-VFS modules being loaded.. maybe that does something
[14:25] <BluesKaj> did you check /var/log/syslog for time out errors ?
[14:26] <shattingduck> no
[14:26] <shattingduck> you mean on the linux mint ?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> not that a time out error will you much
[14:26] <BluesKaj> tell
[14:27] <BluesKaj> on whatever OS you use to transfer the files
[14:28] <shattingduck> well .... I will look into it
[14:47] <shattingduck> I still have this problem where the system tray does not show if the disk is mounted or not.. it always shows it the same, whether it's mounted or not
[14:50] <Ab3L> hi. are you having muon crashes while installing/uninstalling applications?
[14:53] <shattingduck> no
[14:54] <shattingduck> try synaptics instead...
[14:55] <Ab3L> there's a segmentation fault
[14:56] <Ab3L> it seems to be a known bug, but it affects me only from today.
[14:56] <shattingduck> restarting?
[14:59] <Ab3L> do you mean resatart the system?
[14:59] <shattingduck> yes
[15:00] <Ab3L> i'll try. thx
[15:31] <tmlp> hi,is there a way to fix the problem with ethernet port with atheros ar8161
[15:35] <tmlp> join #ubuntu
[15:35] <tmlp> join #ubuntufuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 hi all. i am trying to start kwallet but i am getting the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197906/ . Any idea to make this application to be strated and loaded on xubuntu 12.04? I googled this issue already but i didnt find any appropriate answer.
[16:18] <SporkWitch> so when i boot the kubuntu 14.04 livecd i get the shiny Kubuntu name/logo splash while it loads up.  once i install, though, i get this bland text terminal while it's starting.  any idea why that might be?  there doesn't appear to be any errors occurring...
[16:19] <soee> SporkWitch: are you using propriety drivers ?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> SporkWitch, no lightdm login page ?
[16:20] <SporkWitch> soee: yup, the recommended nvidia 331's; so that's the cause?
[16:20] <soee> SporkWitch: yes
[16:20] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: no, the Kubuntu[logo] splash before lightdm comes up
[16:20] <SporkWitch> gotcha; any way to bring it back while still using them? or is it just gonna be that little thing that annoys me? lol
[16:20] <soee> BluesKaj: plymounth
[16:22] <BluesKaj> yeah plymouth. ok what about a VT/TTY , can you get a shell. SporkWitch ?
[16:23] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: oh the system is fully functional, it's purely an aesthetic thing
[16:23] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: just while starting up it shows me text and debug info, as opposed to the shiny Kubuntu logo; it's hardly important, i just liked the shiny splash while booting lol
[16:25] <SporkWitch> will look into plymouth after this install finishes (i borked kontact and the related apps hard while trying to copy this laptop's settings to the desktop, and it's still fresh enough it's easier to just nuke it than to try to figure it out lol)
[16:26] <BluesKaj> ok SporkWitch , I was seeing some artifacts too a while back on 14.04, but I'm running 14.10 which also shows some strange notifications and still loads fine
[16:27] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: yeah, soee is saying it's basically normal behaviour when using closed-source drivers, which would explain why i see it on the desktop but not the laptop
[16:27] <SporkWitch> had the same situation in 12.04 as well (I only use LTS releases on these two machines, since i use them for uni and don't want to have to waste time fixing things when i have assignments due)
[16:29] <BluesKaj> right, I'm a home user so I fool with prereleases a lot
[16:30] <soee> if i remember it right, it is nvidias fault and some bug in their drivers
[16:30] <SporkWitch> makes sense; least the system behaves fine, just a single graphical nuisance that i only see once every couple months when i actually reboot the thing lol
[16:31] <deafpool> hey all
[16:31] <deafpool> i have a question about something that showed up in my terminal after an apt-get install, i'm not sure if anyone can help me get to the bottom of it
[16:32] <SporkWitch> don't ask to ask, mate
[16:32] <deafpool> roger
[16:32] <deafpool> so i installed kdevelop via apt get
[16:33] <deafpool> but when i was going through my history later, this showed up one line before sudo apt-get install kdevelop:
[16:33] <deafpool> kdevelop! -s {d07736be-55c1-4791-8ab5-a3b6f0280603}
[16:33] <deafpool> i didn't input that into my terminal, so why did it appear in my history before
[16:33] <deafpool> 'sudo apt get install kdevelop'
[16:36] <SporkWitch> seems like it would just be a package id; a lot of times when you go to install something you're just listing the name of a virtual package, that links to the latest version or a collection of others
[16:36] <SporkWitch> also, \n is not punctuation
[16:37] <soee> its more like session hash
[16:37] <deafpool> I see, thanks! It just seemed strange to see it in my terminal commands since I didn't put it in myself. Kind of a linux noob.
[16:37] <deafpool> So would it be normal to see something like that in my history again after an apt-get install?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> deafpool, one is bound to see all manner of strange notifications in the terminal when installing packages, don't become too concerned if you don't understand them
[16:44] <deafpool> BluesKaj, yeah, I know - but it still seems strange to see it in the bash history
[17:16] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!
[17:16] <josePHPagoda> What's the recommended way to add a custom entry to my PATH for a specific user?
[17:22] <josePHPagoda> i see that I can use /etc/environment
[17:22] <josePHPagoda> but the folder I want in my path is dependant on the user that is logged in
[17:54] <krise> hi, how can i enable java in firefox , i can see that i have java installed but can not find the place where i can enable it
[18:04] <krise> anybody?
[18:04] <krise> somebody?
[18:05] <krise> Nobody ??
[19:21] <tobiasBora> Hello,
[19:21] <tobiasBora> I've a copy problem with KDE
[19:22] <tobiasBora> Sometimes the process of copy is REALLY slow, I need 8 days to copy 70Go...
[19:22] <tobiasBora> While in console I don't have any problem.
[19:23] <tobiasBora> The speed is written "0 o/s" in the information window
[19:23] <tobiasBora> Do you know how I could solve that ?
[19:24] <rohlik> to máš blbý...
[20:09] <allon> Hi
[20:09] <allon> I upgraded this afternoon from kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[20:10] <allon> I can see that lots has been done, I am very impressed
[20:10] <allon> I just have one small details which bother me
[20:10] <allon> I can not find phpmyadmin in muon like before
[20:11] <soee> it should be there i think
[20:11] <soee> im on 14.10beta and i have it here
[20:11] <lordievader> !info phpmyadmin
[20:11] <allon> I am going to "Découvreur Muon" soory in french
[20:11] <lordievader> allon: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[20:12] <soee> do you have Universe checked in sources ?
[20:12] <allon> I think so
[20:13] <allon> I look again
[20:13] <allon> yes it is checked
[20:13] <allon> what I do is that I type phpmyadmin in the search area top rigth
[20:14] <allon> but nothing is proposed
[20:14] <lordievader> allon: Are you using the Muon Discoverer thingie?
[20:14] <soee> type in concole: apt-cache policy phpmyadmin
[20:15] <lordievader> Since that one does not show individual packages.
[20:15] <lordievader> The Muon Packagemanger does though, if it still exists.
[20:16] <soee> oh i thought we are tlaking about Muon
[20:16] <BluesKaj> allon, install muon itself , that muon discover app is klunky
[20:16] <lordievader> soee: Muon has a few different counter-parts ;)
[20:16] <soee> yup
[20:17] <BluesKaj> muon is still available, using it as a reference here on 14.10
[20:17] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The package manager?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> yes plain old muon
[20:18] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install muon , allon
[20:23] <allon> sorry was gone (baby emergency ;) )
[20:24] <allon> ok this is what I wanted to ask, in 12.04 there was two muon, one like the one I have there and one much more powerful
[20:24] <allon> so this is the same there
[20:24] <lordievader> allon: The powerfull one is probably the package manager BluesKaj is talking about.
[20:25] <BluesKaj> lordievader, no doubt :)
[20:33] <allon> my muon is back :)
[20:33] <allon> thanks for the help I would not have searched for it
[20:33] <allon> it should really be there by default
[20:36] <BluesKaj> it's optional i believe, like a lot of my favourite old kubuntu apps, but I give thanks that most are still available
[20:37] <BluesKaj> like konversation for example
[20:41] <allon> My Konversation did not works so well on 12.04
[20:41] <allon> I had to move to pidgin
[20:41] <allon> maybe it is better now
[20:42] <lordievader> Bitlbee :D
[20:44] <BluesKaj> allon, running konverstion 4.14.0 and it's just fine
[20:44] <allon> I will try it then, my problem was about the notifications, they did not always worked
[20:45] <allon> which was annoying
[20:48] <BluesKaj> allon, think I ould use quassel before pidgin , but it depands on the chat protocols you want to use
[20:48] <BluesKaj> would
[20:49] <allon> I only want to use irc
[20:49] <allon> I am out of msn skype etc
[20:49] <allon> and I feel free :)
[20:52] <BluesKaj> konversation is still maintained and new versions are available periodically
[20:52] <soee_> i couldnt get used to quaselle, so iv been using x-chat for a while but than moved to konversation and im happy with it since then :)
[20:58] <SporkWitch> what could cause a program to run fine from a terminal, but not even start when run from the kicker menu? (specifically Steam in this case; "steam" at a terminal works, launching from the kicker gives me launch feedback but never opens steam)
[21:13] <BluesKaj> SporkWitch, permissions maybe, using kdesudo to launch ?
[21:14] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: shouldn't need it, never has before (even on this same machine, freshly installed from the same disk, before i nuked it and did another fresh install today)
[21:18] <BluesKaj> SporkWitch, understood
[21:18]  * BluesKaj <--- not a gamer
[21:19] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: that's just what's so weird about it.  literally "steam" from the terminal works 100% fine.  a kicker entry of "steam" or "/usr/games/steam" starts it downloading the initial updates, then it disappears as if it exited cleanly when it hits about 25MB/~250
[21:19] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: after letting it run and update from the terminal, we switch from still running fine in terminal, to NOTHING occurring when launched from the kicker
[21:19] <SporkWitch> i can't figure out what it sees as being any different
[21:19] <SporkWitch> and i've never run into the issue before, with anything
[21:20] <SporkWitch> (normally if it doesn't launch from the kicker, it at least gives me error output while STILL not running from the terminal)
[21:20] <BluesKaj> SporkWitch, maybe check the logs , hate to state the obvious but...
[21:20] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: i can't find any :'(
[21:20] <SporkWitch> BluesKaj: and there's never anything wrong with stating the obvious; the obvious is always the first to be overlooked
[21:21] <SporkWitch> plenty of superusers that miss a cable and think they already plugged it in :)
[21:21] <BluesKaj>  /var/log/syslog ?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> yeah been there
[21:21] <SporkWitch> no mention of steam in it :(
[21:21] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:23] <SporkWitch> ah well, flatmate needs a ride, will come at it with fresh eyes in a bit
[21:23] <SporkWitch> thanks for the advice
[21:26] <BluesKaj> SporkWitch, look in  ~/.local/share/Steam ~/