| === lool- is now known as lool | ||
| Akiva-Thinkpad | hey all | 07:45 |
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| qtros | Akiva-Thinkpad hello | 08:22 |
| qtros | popey ping | 08:22 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, whats new? | 08:24 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile changed my regular job few days ago :) What about you?) | 08:25 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, been shoring up for the RTM; I want to see Ubuntu Touch have a good opening run :) | 08:25 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile can you tell me when image for RTM will be released? I mean due date) | 08:28 |
| Akiva-Mobile | I keep asking that. | 08:29 |
| Akiva-Mobile | I am assuming monday | 08:29 |
| Akiva-Mobile | popey was working weekends and late into the night; presumably because of the deadline | 08:30 |
| Akiva-Mobile | or maybe he just loves his work :P | 08:30 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile this Monday??? | 08:31 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, probably yes :) | 08:31 |
| Akiva-Mobile | end of month; you know how it is. | 08:31 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, have you been working on any apps? | 08:32 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile so a lot of bugs are still open ( | 08:32 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile yes, Shorts RSS Reader | 08:32 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, ah neat | 08:32 |
| Akiva-Mobile | yah bugs; gotta fix them all | 08:32 |
| Akiva-Mobile | damn reddit; why did I engage in a political philosophical discusson >_< | 08:33 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile I have latest image on my nexus and I can't call - main bug) | 08:34 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile phone which can't call is more than useless) | 08:34 |
| Akiva-Mobile | oh golly | 08:34 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile one big issue for me at the current moment - application launch takes so long time | 08:40 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, on the actual phone? | 08:41 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, very interesting; do you know what filesystem it is using? | 08:41 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile yes) I mean time when I see app icon and running circles) | 08:41 |
| Akiva-Mobile | fat, ext4, or f2fs? | 08:41 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile I can't answer for now) I use dualboot wth Android | 08:42 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, yah nik90 was working on the clock startup speed. | 08:42 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile I think it must be system-wide upgrade | 08:42 |
| Akiva-Mobile | so I imagine a lot of threading will be implimented after application maturity | 08:42 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, it really is exciting to be in an open development environment | 08:43 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile they should use something like service qmlscene, which will be forked when app starts rather that starting new process every time) | 08:44 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile it's just idea, I don't know how it's implemented) | 08:45 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, interesting | 08:45 |
| * Akiva-Mobile wonders what the first phone will look like | 08:45 | |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile as far as I remember, in MeeGo they used something like that | 08:45 |
| Akiva-Mobile | qtros, performance programming is a lot of fun; it really causes you to be creative. | 08:46 |
| qtros | Akiva-Mobile yes! And I like it a lot) | 08:46 |
| popey | Akiva-Mobile: qtros heya! | 08:47 |
| popey | there's already been a couple of rtm images made | 08:48 |
| popey | i dont know about "final" though. | 08:48 |
| Akiva-Mobile | :| Interesting; thanks for the correction | 08:48 |
| Akiva-Mobile | thought this RTM was a big one | 08:49 |
| qtros | popey hello :) | 08:49 |
| qtros | popey now I already know that it isn't good time, but I proposed merge request of Shorts with new header) | 08:49 |
| popey | qtros excellent, will take a look | 08:51 |
| qtros | popey good) | 08:55 |
| ybon | rpadovani: ping | 11:37 |
| killer | Hey , I submitted my app about 2 months ago , but it still has the status of "Pending Review " . Any suggestion what should I do ? | 11:52 |
| popey | killer: what app? | 11:55 |
| popey | killer: photo editor? | 11:56 |
| killer | Yes , there are two , killer photo editor pro and the "talking linux" | 11:57 |
| Akiva-Mobile | killer, talking linux | 12:00 |
| Akiva-Mobile | ? | 12:00 |
| killer | Yea ,it's a simple app using espeak at it's backend | 12:01 |
| Akiva-Mobile | oh neato | 12:02 |
| popey | killer: there's quite a queue, I dont work in the team that reviews them, sorry. But I will ask for an update when back at work tomorrow | 12:03 |
| killer | Thanx , it's quite a long time "2 months" | 12:04 |
| rpadovani | ybon, sorry, I was at launch, pong :-) | 12:10 |
| ybon | rpadovani: no pb :) | 12:16 |
| ybon | rpadovani: i'm stuck in 1363408 too | 12:16 |
| ybon | but installing drivers from nvidia doesn't seem to fix for me | 12:17 |
| ybon | would you maybe share the command line you have done, in case I've missed a step? | 12:17 |
| ybon | command lines* | 12:17 |
| rpadovani | ybon, sure, just a sec | 12:19 |
| ybon | :) | 12:19 |
| rpadovani | ybon, like this comment, but step 2 is different | 12:20 |
| rpadovani | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1363408/comments/2 | 12:20 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1363408 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "nvidia proprietary drivers are broken" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 12:20 |
| rpadovani | ybon, you need to create a file (like, dunno, etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-bug-unicorn.con) | 12:21 |
| rpadovani | ybon, and put http://paste.ubuntu.com/8196529/ | 12:21 |
| rpadovani | ybon, the .conf in the name is important | 12:21 |
| rpadovani | ybon, oh, another thing: you should stop lightdm to install new drivers | 12:22 |
| rpadovani | so, after the reboot, do login, then do | 12:22 |
| ybon | ok, thanks | 12:22 |
| rpadovani | sudo service lightdm stop | 12:22 |
| ybon | it seems I've done all this yet :s | 12:22 |
| ybon | yup | 12:22 |
| rpadovani | mhh, ok | 12:22 |
| rpadovani | what graphic card do you have? | 12:23 |
| ybon | rpadovani: Quadro2000M | 12:23 |
| ybon | GF106GLM | 12:23 |
| ybon | rpadovani: do you have API mismatch warning in your syslog too? | 12:25 |
| rpadovani | ybon, mhh no, grep doesn't find any warning for graphic card | 12:27 |
| ybon | oh | 12:28 |
| ybon | nothing with NVRM either? | 12:28 |
| rpadovani | the only I have is init: udev-fallback-graphics main process | 12:28 |
| rpadovani | NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. | 12:28 |
| ybon | ok | 12:29 |
| ybon | doesn't seem we are in the exact same situation :s | 12:29 |
| rpadovani | unfortunately graphic cards are a big mess | 12:31 |
| ybon | yep :/ | 12:35 |
| === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin | ||
| mzanetti | \o/ first successful flight! http://i.imgur.com/VmxWntJ.png | 13:06 |
| Akiva-Mobile | so I got the emulator running and all that jazz | 13:06 |
| Akiva-Mobile | how am I supposed to build and run an application not from qmlscene, but within the emulator? | 13:07 |
| popey | 55rrf mzanetti oooh! | 13:13 |
| popey | -typos | 13:13 |
| popey | Akiva-Mobile: emulator should show up in devices | 13:13 |
| popey | Akiva-Mobile: and you should be able to select the right kit for it (i386 needed) with the button just above the green triangle | 13:13 |
| Akiva-Mobile | popey, right, and that is all fine and well | 13:14 |
| Akiva-Mobile | but to run the application I just branched | 13:14 |
| mzanetti | popey: :) will hopefully manage to get into a state good enough for publishing today still | 13:14 |
| mzanetti | seems its working pretty well already. found some issues during the test flight. but nothing that would make it crash :) | 13:15 |
| popey | mzanetti: what | 13:16 |
| popey | BAH! | 13:16 |
| popey | mzanetti: will be interesting to see how you fare in the store.. it's fully automated now | 13:16 |
| mzanetti | popey: so no more manual checks at all? | 13:16 |
| popey | only if you fail or you request them | 13:16 |
| popey | AIUI, I haven't submitted one yet | 13:17 |
| popey | also, we hit 500 apps in the store | 13:17 |
| mzanetti | *\o/* | 13:17 |
| mzanetti | only 5 million to go | 13:17 |
| ybon | :) | 13:17 |
| ybon | popey: do you if the 'last published/updated apps' page will land in the ubuntu store scope? | 13:18 |
| mzanetti | popey: do you know if there are plans for a "new" category in the store? | 13:18 |
| popey | mzanetti: i asked beuno about that, I think so. | 13:32 |
| popey | ybon: same answer ^ | 13:33 |
| ybon | k :) | 13:35 |
| nik90_ | Akiva-Mobile: still having issues running apps in the emulator? | 14:10 |
| Akiva-Mobile | nik90_, ah yes | 14:10 |
| Akiva-Mobile | don't know where to start | 14:11 |
| nik90_ | Akiva-Mobile: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/using-device-kits/ | 14:11 |
| Akiva-Mobile | great that should do | 14:11 |
| Akiva-Mobile | thanks | 14:11 |
| nik90_ | Akiva-Mobile: btw calendar, music don't work with this method due to their source code tree. | 14:11 |
| Akiva-Mobile | errpp | 14:11 |
| Akiva-Mobile | nik90_, so then for the calender? | 14:12 |
| ahayzen | nik90_, does audio even work on the emulator? | 14:12 |
| * ahayzen attempted to get music to doing something on the emulator at one point | 14:12 | |
| nik90_ | Akiva-Mobile: for calendar, you will need to create a click package using click-buddy and then install it on the emulator to try it. | 14:12 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: not to my knowledge no | 14:12 |
| Akiva-Mobile | nik90_, cool beans | 14:13 |
| nik90_ | Akiva-Mobile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197301/ | 14:15 |
| Akiva-Mobile | great | 14:15 |
| Akiva-Mobile | bah 715 am | 14:15 |
| Akiva-Mobile | time to go to bed :P | 14:16 |
| nik90_ | lol | 14:16 |
| * Akiva-Mobile should burn reddit in a fire, such a bloody waste of time | 14:16 | |
| popey | ybon: rpadovani i have the same issue with nvidia-331 on my desktop :| | 14:45 |
| * popey files a bug | 14:46 | |
| ybon | ouch | 14:46 |
| ybon | popey: there is one yet | 14:46 |
| popey | yeah, saw that one | 14:46 |
| ybon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1363408 | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1363408 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "nvidia proprietary drivers are broken" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:46 |
| popey | gonna file my own so it captures my logs etc | 14:46 |
| ybon | oh ok | 14:46 |
| popey | I'll mark it as dupe | 14:46 |
| ybon | I'm about to reinstall on 14.04 | 14:47 |
| * DanChapman is well chuffed!!! Reply modes now working | 14:47 | |
| popey | erk | 14:47 |
| popey | daker: yay! | 14:47 |
| popey | er DanChapman ☻ | 14:47 |
| ybon | now that you submit new infos, maybe this will speed up a workaround, so I'm gonna play around a bit more | 14:47 |
| ybon | can we run ubuntu-bug from tty? | 14:49 |
| nik90_ | popey: which framework version should apps be using now? ubuntu-14.10-qml-dev3? I remember there was some discussion around this | 14:52 |
| popey | bug 1363675 | 14:52 |
| ubot5 | bug 1363675 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363675 | 14:52 |
| popey | ybon: yes, I ssh'ed into my desktop to run ubuntu-bug | 14:52 |
| ybon | ok | 14:53 |
| ybon | so I'm gonna do that too | 14:53 |
| popey | good call | 14:53 |
| popey | nik90_: thats the latest, yes | 14:55 |
| nik90_ | ok | 14:56 |
| ahayzen | popey, nik90_ do we have a plan about 'what to do next' with bug 1363314 ? | 14:56 |
| ubot5 | bug 1363314 in Ubuntu Clock App "App fails to launch on up-to-date utopic desktop" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363314 | 14:56 |
| popey | ahayzen: I'll be poking people tomorrow | 14:57 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: atm I am working around it by testing the clock straight in the emulator or phone. | 14:57 |
| nik90_ | ahayzen: but yes it is blocking landings | 14:57 |
| ahayzen | popey, ok thanks :) | 14:57 |
| ahayzen | nik90_, yeah i use the device most of the time to test...but landings is the real issue | 14:57 |
| popey | unfortunately I can't really poke anyone before that, but will certainly send a mail before EOD so it's seen tomorrow morning | 14:57 |
| ahayzen | popey, thanks hopefully someone can figure out what is going on | 14:58 |
| nik90_ | popey: thnx | 14:58 |
| beuno | ybon, popey, it will land, but not super soon | 15:08 |
| ybon | humm, I've tried installing xorg-edgers ppa, so I'm not sure my logs are anay useful now | 15:08 |
| ybon | ok :) | 15:08 |
| DanChapman | popey, how can i discard a new version waiting approval through myapps UI? | 17:33 |
| popey | DanChapman: discard? | 17:40 |
| popey | rpadovani: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-31-184016.png | 17:40 |
| popey | fyi | 17:40 |
| popey | (nexus 7 2013) | 17:40 |
| DanChapman | popey, yeah i've just uploaded a new version but I uploaded the wrong click and it's now waiting for approval. So how can i discard/cancel the one I uploaded? | 17:42 |
| popey | I can bounce it back to you, one moment | 17:42 |
| popey | done | 17:42 |
| popey | now you just need to upload a new version with a higher version number | 17:42 |
| rpadovani | popey, mhhhh, yes, it's as expected, changing the size of the game to adapt to the mainview causes problem, so thanks to Stefano Verzegnassi I added this fade. Anyway, you can believe me or note, but I'm rewriting a lot of things about 100balls right now, I hope to have a better implementation of this one too :-) | 17:42 |
| popey | heh okay ☻ | 17:42 |
| DanChapman | popey, great thanks :-) | 17:44 |
| nik90_ | ybon: I can't figure out how to check the status of the GPS on the phone :/. I tried everything from "valid", "supportedPositionMethods" etc etc | 18:59 |
| nik90_ | ybon: so I asked a question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/518470/how-to-detect-if-gps-sources-are-enabled-using-qtpositioning-in-ubuntu-touch | 18:59 |
| nik90_ | let's see if someone is able to answer that | 18:59 |
| ybon | yeah, this API needs love | 19:07 |
| popey | nik90_: poke tvoss tomorrow to get an answer on that | 20:40 |
| nik90_ | popey: yup will do | 22:06 |
| Commonuser | Hi everyone | 23:39 |
| Commonuser | you are the guys responsible for ubuntu development right? | 23:40 |
| Commonuser | I came up with an idea and I was wondering if it can be possible somebody may take it for an implemetation on the interface | 23:42 |
| Commonuser | I wonder if someone is reading this because I fell a little dumb writing by myself here :p | 23:43 |
| Commonuser | See ya | 23:46 |
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