=== lool- is now known as lool [07:45] hey all [08:22] Akiva-Thinkpad hello [08:22] popey ping [08:24] qtros, whats new? [08:25] Akiva-Mobile changed my regular job few days ago :) What about you?) [08:25] qtros, been shoring up for the RTM; I want to see Ubuntu Touch have a good opening run :) [08:28] Akiva-Mobile can you tell me when image for RTM will be released? I mean due date) [08:29] I keep asking that. [08:29] I am assuming monday [08:30] popey was working weekends and late into the night; presumably because of the deadline [08:30] or maybe he just loves his work :P [08:31] Akiva-Mobile this Monday??? [08:31] qtros, probably yes :) [08:31] end of month; you know how it is. [08:32] qtros, have you been working on any apps? [08:32] Akiva-Mobile so a lot of bugs are still open ( [08:32] Akiva-Mobile yes, Shorts RSS Reader [08:32] qtros, ah neat [08:32] yah bugs; gotta fix them all [08:33] damn reddit; why did I engage in a political philosophical discusson >_< [08:34] Akiva-Mobile I have latest image on my nexus and I can't call - main bug) [08:34] Akiva-Mobile phone which can't call is more than useless) [08:34] oh golly [08:40] Akiva-Mobile one big issue for me at the current moment - application launch takes so long time [08:41] qtros, on the actual phone? [08:41] qtros, very interesting; do you know what filesystem it is using? [08:41] Akiva-Mobile yes) I mean time when I see app icon and running circles) [08:41] fat, ext4, or f2fs? [08:42] Akiva-Mobile I can't answer for now) I use dualboot wth Android [08:42] qtros, yah nik90 was working on the clock startup speed. [08:42] Akiva-Mobile I think it must be system-wide upgrade [08:42] so I imagine a lot of threading will be implimented after application maturity [08:43] qtros, it really is exciting to be in an open development environment [08:44] Akiva-Mobile they should use something like service qmlscene, which will be forked when app starts rather that starting new process every time) [08:45] Akiva-Mobile it's just idea, I don't know how it's implemented) [08:45] qtros, interesting [08:45] * Akiva-Mobile wonders what the first phone will look like [08:45] Akiva-Mobile as far as I remember, in MeeGo they used something like that [08:46] qtros, performance programming is a lot of fun; it really causes you to be creative. [08:46] Akiva-Mobile yes! And I like it a lot) [08:47] Akiva-Mobile: qtros heya! [08:48] there's already been a couple of rtm images made [08:48] i dont know about "final" though. [08:48] :| Interesting; thanks for the correction [08:49] thought this RTM was a big one [08:49] popey hello :) [08:49] popey now I already know that it isn't good time, but I proposed merge request of Shorts with new header) [08:51] qtros excellent, will take a look [08:55] popey good) [11:37] rpadovani: ping [11:52] Hey , I submitted my app about 2 months ago , but it still has the status of "Pending Review " . Any suggestion what should I do ? [11:55] killer: what app? [11:56] killer: photo editor? [11:57] Yes , there are two , killer photo editor pro and the "talking linux" [12:00] killer, talking linux [12:00] ? [12:01] Yea ,it's a simple app using espeak at it's backend [12:02] oh neato [12:03] killer: there's quite a queue, I dont work in the team that reviews them, sorry. But I will ask for an update when back at work tomorrow [12:04] Thanx , it's quite a long time "2 months" [12:10] ybon, sorry, I was at launch, pong :-) [12:16] rpadovani: no pb :) [12:16] rpadovani: i'm stuck in 1363408 too [12:17] but installing drivers from nvidia doesn't seem to fix for me [12:17] would you maybe share the command line you have done, in case I've missed a step? [12:17] command lines* [12:19] ybon, sure, just a sec [12:19] :) [12:20] ybon, like this comment, but step 2 is different [12:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1363408/comments/2 [12:20] Ubuntu bug 1363408 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "nvidia proprietary drivers are broken" [Undecided,Incomplete] [12:21] ybon, you need to create a file (like, dunno, etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-bug-unicorn.con) [12:21] ybon, and put http://paste.ubuntu.com/8196529/ [12:21] ybon, the .conf in the name is important [12:22] ybon, oh, another thing: you should stop lightdm to install new drivers [12:22] so, after the reboot, do login, then do [12:22] ok, thanks [12:22] sudo service lightdm stop [12:22] it seems I've done all this yet :s [12:22] yup [12:22] mhh, ok [12:23] what graphic card do you have? [12:23] rpadovani: Quadro2000M [12:23] GF106GLM [12:25] rpadovani: do you have API mismatch warning in your syslog too? [12:27] ybon, mhh no, grep doesn't find any warning for graphic card [12:28] oh [12:28] nothing with NVRM either? [12:28] the only I have is init: udev-fallback-graphics main process [12:28] NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. [12:29] ok [12:29] doesn't seem we are in the exact same situation :s [12:31] unfortunately graphic cards are a big mess [12:35] yep :/ === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [13:06] \o/ first successful flight! http://i.imgur.com/VmxWntJ.png [13:06] so I got the emulator running and all that jazz [13:07] how am I supposed to build and run an application not from qmlscene, but within the emulator? [13:13] 55rrf mzanetti oooh! [13:13] -typos [13:13] Akiva-Mobile: emulator should show up in devices [13:13] Akiva-Mobile: and you should be able to select the right kit for it (i386 needed) with the button just above the green triangle [13:14] popey, right, and that is all fine and well [13:14] but to run the application I just branched [13:14] popey: :) will hopefully manage to get into a state good enough for publishing today still [13:15] seems its working pretty well already. found some issues during the test flight. but nothing that would make it crash :) [13:16] mzanetti: what [13:16] BAH! [13:16] mzanetti: will be interesting to see how you fare in the store.. it's fully automated now [13:16] popey: so no more manual checks at all? [13:16] only if you fail or you request them [13:17] AIUI, I haven't submitted one yet [13:17] also, we hit 500 apps in the store [13:17] *\o/* [13:17] only 5 million to go [13:17] :) [13:18] popey: do you if the 'last published/updated apps' page will land in the ubuntu store scope? [13:18] popey: do you know if there are plans for a "new" category in the store? [13:32] mzanetti: i asked beuno about that, I think so. [13:33] ybon: same answer ^ [13:35] k :) [14:10] Akiva-Mobile: still having issues running apps in the emulator? [14:10] nik90_, ah yes [14:11] don't know where to start [14:11] Akiva-Mobile: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/using-device-kits/ [14:11] great that should do [14:11] thanks [14:11] Akiva-Mobile: btw calendar, music don't work with this method due to their source code tree. [14:11] errpp [14:12] nik90_, so then for the calender? [14:12] nik90_, does audio even work on the emulator? [14:12] * ahayzen attempted to get music to doing something on the emulator at one point [14:12] Akiva-Mobile: for calendar, you will need to create a click package using click-buddy and then install it on the emulator to try it. [14:12] ahayzen: not to my knowledge no [14:13] nik90_, cool beans [14:15] Akiva-Mobile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197301/ [14:15] great [14:15] bah 715 am [14:16] time to go to bed :P [14:16] lol [14:16] * Akiva-Mobile should burn reddit in a fire, such a bloody waste of time [14:45] ybon: rpadovani i have the same issue with nvidia-331 on my desktop :| [14:46] * popey files a bug [14:46] ouch [14:46] popey: there is one yet [14:46] yeah, saw that one [14:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1363408 [14:46] Ubuntu bug 1363408 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "nvidia proprietary drivers are broken" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:46] gonna file my own so it captures my logs etc [14:46] oh ok [14:46] I'll mark it as dupe [14:47] I'm about to reinstall on 14.04 [14:47] * DanChapman is well chuffed!!! Reply modes now working [14:47] erk [14:47] daker: yay! [14:47] er DanChapman ☻ [14:47] now that you submit new infos, maybe this will speed up a workaround, so I'm gonna play around a bit more [14:49] can we run ubuntu-bug from tty? [14:52] popey: which framework version should apps be using now? ubuntu-14.10-qml-dev3? I remember there was some discussion around this [14:52] bug 1363675 [14:52] bug 1363675 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331 (Ubuntu) "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363675 [14:52] ybon: yes, I ssh'ed into my desktop to run ubuntu-bug [14:53] ok [14:53] so I'm gonna do that too [14:53] good call [14:55] nik90_: thats the latest, yes [14:56] ok [14:56] popey, nik90_ do we have a plan about 'what to do next' with bug 1363314 ? [14:56] bug 1363314 in Ubuntu Clock App "App fails to launch on up-to-date utopic desktop" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363314 [14:57] ahayzen: I'll be poking people tomorrow [14:57] ahayzen: atm I am working around it by testing the clock straight in the emulator or phone. [14:57] ahayzen: but yes it is blocking landings [14:57] popey, ok thanks :) [14:57] nik90_, yeah i use the device most of the time to test...but landings is the real issue [14:57] unfortunately I can't really poke anyone before that, but will certainly send a mail before EOD so it's seen tomorrow morning [14:58] popey, thanks hopefully someone can figure out what is going on [14:58] popey: thnx [15:08] ybon, popey, it will land, but not super soon [15:08] humm, I've tried installing xorg-edgers ppa, so I'm not sure my logs are anay useful now [15:08] ok :) [17:33] popey, how can i discard a new version waiting approval through myapps UI? [17:40] DanChapman: discard? [17:40] rpadovani: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-31-184016.png [17:40] fyi [17:40] (nexus 7 2013) [17:42] popey, yeah i've just uploaded a new version but I uploaded the wrong click and it's now waiting for approval. So how can i discard/cancel the one I uploaded? [17:42] I can bounce it back to you, one moment [17:42] done [17:42] now you just need to upload a new version with a higher version number [17:42] popey, mhhhh, yes, it's as expected, changing the size of the game to adapt to the mainview causes problem, so thanks to Stefano Verzegnassi I added this fade. Anyway, you can believe me or note, but I'm rewriting a lot of things about 100balls right now, I hope to have a better implementation of this one too :-) [17:42] heh okay ☻ [17:44] popey, great thanks :-) [18:59] ybon: I can't figure out how to check the status of the GPS on the phone :/. I tried everything from "valid", "supportedPositionMethods" etc etc [18:59] ybon: so I asked a question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/518470/how-to-detect-if-gps-sources-are-enabled-using-qtpositioning-in-ubuntu-touch [18:59] let's see if someone is able to answer that [19:07] yeah, this API needs love [20:40] nik90_: poke tvoss tomorrow to get an answer on that [22:06] popey: yup will do [23:39] Hi everyone [23:40] you are the guys responsible for ubuntu development right? [23:42] I came up with an idea and I was wondering if it can be possible somebody may take it for an implemetation on the interface [23:43] I wonder if someone is reading this because I fell a little dumb writing by myself here :p [23:46] See ya