[07:45] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey all
[08:22] <qtros> Akiva-Thinkpad hello
[08:22] <qtros> popey ping
[08:24] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, whats new?
[08:25] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile changed my regular job few days ago :) What about you?)
[08:25] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, been shoring up for the RTM; I want to see Ubuntu Touch have a good opening run :)
[08:28] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile can you tell me when image for RTM will be released? I mean due date)
[08:29] <Akiva-Mobile> I keep asking that.
[08:29] <Akiva-Mobile> I am assuming monday
[08:30] <Akiva-Mobile> popey was working weekends and late into the night; presumably because of the deadline
[08:30] <Akiva-Mobile> or maybe he just loves his work :P
[08:31] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile this Monday???
[08:31] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, probably yes :)
[08:31] <Akiva-Mobile> end of month; you know how it is.
[08:32] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, have you been working on any apps?
[08:32] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile so a lot of bugs are still open (
[08:32] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile yes, Shorts RSS Reader
[08:32] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, ah neat
[08:32] <Akiva-Mobile> yah bugs; gotta fix them all
[08:33] <Akiva-Mobile> damn reddit; why did I engage in a political philosophical discusson >_<
[08:34] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile I have latest image on my nexus and I can't call - main bug)
[08:34] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile phone which can't call is more than useless)
[08:34] <Akiva-Mobile> oh golly
[08:40] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile one big issue for me at the current moment - application launch takes so long time
[08:41] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, on the actual phone?
[08:41] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, very interesting; do you know what filesystem it is using?
[08:41] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile yes) I mean time when I see app icon and running circles)
[08:41] <Akiva-Mobile> fat, ext4, or f2fs?
[08:42] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile I can't answer for now) I use dualboot wth Android
[08:42] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, yah nik90 was working on the clock startup speed.
[08:42] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile I think it must be system-wide upgrade
[08:42] <Akiva-Mobile> so I imagine a lot of threading will be implimented after application maturity
[08:43] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, it really is exciting to be in an open development environment
[08:44] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile they should use something like service qmlscene, which will be forked when app starts rather that starting new process every time)
[08:45] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile it's just idea, I don't know how it's implemented)
[08:45] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, interesting
[08:45]  * Akiva-Mobile wonders what the first phone will look like
[08:45] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile as far as I remember, in MeeGo they used something like that
[08:46] <Akiva-Mobile> qtros, performance programming is a lot of fun; it really causes you to be creative.
[08:46] <qtros> Akiva-Mobile yes! And I like it a lot)
[08:47] <popey> Akiva-Mobile: qtros heya!
[08:48] <popey> there's already been a couple of rtm images made
[08:48] <popey> i dont know about "final" though.
[08:48] <Akiva-Mobile> :| Interesting; thanks for the correction
[08:49] <Akiva-Mobile> thought this RTM was a big one
[08:49] <qtros> popey hello :)
[08:49] <qtros> popey now I already know that it isn't good time, but I proposed merge request of Shorts with new header)
[08:51] <popey>  qtros excellent, will take a look
[08:55] <qtros> popey good)
[11:37] <ybon> rpadovani: ping
[11:52] <killer> Hey , I submitted my app about 2 months ago , but it still has the status of "Pending Review " . Any suggestion what should I do ?
[11:55] <popey> killer: what app?
[11:56] <popey> killer: photo editor?
[11:57] <killer> Yes , there are two , killer photo editor pro and the "talking linux"
[12:00] <Akiva-Mobile> killer, talking linux
[12:00] <Akiva-Mobile> ?
[12:01] <killer> Yea ,it's a simple app using espeak at it's backend
[12:02] <Akiva-Mobile> oh neato
[12:03] <popey> killer: there's quite a queue, I dont work in the team that reviews them, sorry. But I will ask for an update when back at work tomorrow
[12:04] <killer> Thanx , it's quite a long time "2 months"
[12:10] <rpadovani> ybon, sorry, I was at launch, pong :-)
[12:16] <ybon> rpadovani: no pb :)
[12:16] <ybon> rpadovani: i'm stuck in 1363408 too
[12:17] <ybon> but installing drivers from nvidia doesn't seem to fix for me
[12:17] <ybon> would you maybe share the command line you have done, in case I've missed a step?
[12:17] <ybon> command lines*
[12:19] <rpadovani> ybon, sure, just a sec
[12:19] <ybon> :)
[12:20] <rpadovani> ybon, like this comment, but step 2 is different
[12:20] <rpadovani> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1363408/comments/2
[12:21] <rpadovani> ybon, you need to create a file (like, dunno, etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-bug-unicorn.con)
[12:21] <rpadovani> ybon, and put http://paste.ubuntu.com/8196529/
[12:21] <rpadovani> ybon, the .conf in the name is important
[12:22] <rpadovani> ybon, oh, another thing: you should stop lightdm to install new drivers
[12:22] <rpadovani> so, after the reboot, do login, then do
[12:22] <ybon> ok, thanks
[12:22] <rpadovani> sudo service lightdm stop
[12:22] <ybon> it seems I've done all this yet :s
[12:22] <ybon> yup
[12:22] <rpadovani> mhh, ok
[12:23] <rpadovani> what graphic card do you have?
[12:23] <ybon> rpadovani: Quadro2000M
[12:23] <ybon> GF106GLM
[12:25] <ybon> rpadovani: do you have API mismatch warning in your syslog too?
[12:27] <rpadovani> ybon, mhh no, grep doesn't find any warning for graphic card
[12:28] <ybon> oh
[12:28] <ybon> nothing with NVRM either?
[12:28] <rpadovani> the only I have is init: udev-fallback-graphics main process
[12:28] <rpadovani> NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
[12:29] <ybon> ok
[12:29] <ybon> doesn't seem we are in the exact same situation :s
[12:31] <rpadovani> unfortunately graphic cards are a big mess
[12:35] <ybon> yep :/
[13:06] <mzanetti>  \o/ first successful flight! http://i.imgur.com/VmxWntJ.png
[13:06] <Akiva-Mobile> so I got the emulator running and all that jazz
[13:07] <Akiva-Mobile> how am I supposed to build and run an application not from qmlscene, but within the emulator?
[13:13] <popey> 55rrf mzanetti oooh!
[13:13] <popey> -typos
[13:13] <popey> Akiva-Mobile: emulator should show up in devices
[13:13] <popey> Akiva-Mobile: and you should be able to select the right kit for it (i386 needed) with the button just above the green triangle
[13:14] <Akiva-Mobile> popey, right, and that is all fine and well
[13:14] <Akiva-Mobile> but to run the application I just branched
[13:14] <mzanetti> popey: :) will hopefully manage to get into a state good enough for publishing today still
[13:15] <mzanetti> seems its working pretty well already. found some issues during the test flight. but nothing that would make it crash :)
[13:16] <popey> mzanetti: what
[13:16] <popey> BAH!
[13:16] <popey> mzanetti: will be interesting to see how you fare in the store.. it's fully automated now
[13:16] <mzanetti> popey: so no more manual checks at all?
[13:16] <popey> only if you fail or you request them
[13:17] <popey> AIUI, I haven't submitted one yet
[13:17] <popey> also, we hit 500 apps in the store
[13:17] <mzanetti> *\o/*
[13:17] <mzanetti> only 5 million to go
[13:17] <ybon> :)
[13:18] <ybon> popey: do you if the 'last published/updated apps' page will land in the ubuntu store scope?
[13:18] <mzanetti> popey: do you know if there are plans for a "new" category in the store?
[13:32] <popey> mzanetti: i asked beuno about that, I think so.
[13:33] <popey> ybon: same answer ^
[13:35] <ybon> k :)
[14:10] <nik90_> Akiva-Mobile: still having issues running apps in the emulator?
[14:10] <Akiva-Mobile> nik90_, ah yes
[14:11] <Akiva-Mobile> don't know where to start
[14:11] <nik90_> Akiva-Mobile: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/using-device-kits/
[14:11] <Akiva-Mobile> great that should do
[14:11] <Akiva-Mobile> thanks
[14:11] <nik90_> Akiva-Mobile: btw calendar, music don't work with this method due to their source code tree.
[14:11] <Akiva-Mobile> errpp
[14:12] <Akiva-Mobile> nik90_, so then for the calender?
[14:12] <ahayzen> nik90_, does audio even work on the emulator?
[14:12]  * ahayzen attempted to get music to doing something on the emulator at one point
[14:12] <nik90_> Akiva-Mobile: for calendar, you will need to create a click package using click-buddy and then install it on the emulator to try it.
[14:12] <nik90_> ahayzen: not to my knowledge no
[14:13] <Akiva-Mobile> nik90_, cool beans
[14:15] <nik90_> Akiva-Mobile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197301/
[14:15] <Akiva-Mobile> great
[14:15] <Akiva-Mobile> bah 715 am
[14:16] <Akiva-Mobile> time to go to bed :P
[14:16] <nik90_> lol
[14:16]  * Akiva-Mobile should burn reddit in a fire, such a bloody waste of time
[14:45] <popey> ybon: rpadovani i have the same issue with nvidia-331 on my desktop :|
[14:46]  * popey files a bug
[14:46] <ybon> ouch
[14:46] <ybon> popey: there is one yet
[14:46] <popey> yeah, saw that one
[14:46] <ybon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1363408
[14:46] <popey> gonna file my own so it captures my logs etc
[14:46] <ybon> oh ok
[14:46] <popey> I'll mark it as dupe
[14:47] <ybon> I'm about to reinstall on 14.04
[14:47]  * DanChapman is well chuffed!!! Reply modes now working
[14:47] <popey> erk
[14:47] <popey> daker: yay!
[14:47] <popey> er DanChapman ☻
[14:47] <ybon> now that you submit new infos, maybe this will speed up a workaround, so I'm gonna play around a bit more
[14:49] <ybon> can we run ubuntu-bug from tty?
[14:52] <nik90_> popey: which framework version should apps be using now? ubuntu-14.10-qml-dev3? I remember there was some discussion around this
[14:52] <popey> bug 1363675
[14:52] <popey> ybon: yes, I ssh'ed into my desktop to run ubuntu-bug
[14:53] <ybon> ok
[14:53] <ybon> so I'm gonna do that too
[14:53] <popey> good call
[14:55] <popey> nik90_: thats the latest, yes
[14:56] <nik90_> ok
[14:56] <ahayzen> popey, nik90_ do we have a plan about 'what to do next' with bug 1363314 ?
[14:57] <popey> ahayzen: I'll be poking people tomorrow
[14:57] <nik90_> ahayzen: atm I am working around it by testing the clock straight in the emulator or phone.
[14:57] <nik90_> ahayzen: but yes it is blocking landings
[14:57] <ahayzen> popey, ok thanks :)
[14:57] <ahayzen> nik90_, yeah i use the device most of the time to test...but landings is the real issue
[14:57] <popey> unfortunately I can't really poke anyone before that, but will certainly send a mail before EOD so it's seen tomorrow morning
[14:58] <ahayzen> popey, thanks hopefully someone can figure out what is going on
[14:58] <nik90_> popey: thnx
[15:08] <beuno> ybon, popey, it will land, but not super soon
[15:08] <ybon> humm, I've tried installing xorg-edgers ppa, so I'm not sure my logs are anay useful now
[15:08] <ybon> ok :)
[17:33] <DanChapman> popey, how can i discard a new version waiting approval through myapps UI?
[17:40] <popey> DanChapman: discard?
[17:40] <popey> rpadovani: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-08-31-184016.png
[17:40] <popey> fyi
[17:40] <popey> (nexus 7 2013)
[17:42] <DanChapman> popey, yeah i've just uploaded a new version but I uploaded the wrong click and it's now waiting for approval. So how can i discard/cancel the one I uploaded?
[17:42] <popey> I can bounce it back to you, one moment
[17:42] <popey> done
[17:42] <popey> now you just need to upload a new version with a higher version number
[17:42] <rpadovani> popey, mhhhh, yes, it's as expected, changing the size of the game to adapt to the mainview causes problem, so thanks to Stefano Verzegnassi I added this fade. Anyway, you can believe me or note, but I'm rewriting a lot of things about 100balls right now, I hope to have a better implementation of this one too :-)
[17:42] <popey> heh okay ☻
[17:44] <DanChapman> popey, great thanks :-)
[18:59] <nik90_> ybon: I can't figure out how to check the status of the GPS on the phone :/. I tried everything from "valid", "supportedPositionMethods" etc etc
[18:59] <nik90_> ybon: so I asked a question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/518470/how-to-detect-if-gps-sources-are-enabled-using-qtpositioning-in-ubuntu-touch
[18:59] <nik90_> let's see if someone is able to answer that
[19:07] <ybon> yeah, this API needs love
[20:40] <popey> nik90_: poke tvoss tomorrow to get an answer on that
[22:06] <nik90_> popey: yup will do
[23:39] <Commonuser> Hi everyone
[23:40] <Commonuser> you are the guys responsible for ubuntu development right?
[23:42] <Commonuser> I came up with an idea and I was wondering if it can be possible somebody may take it for an implemetation on the interface
[23:43] <Commonuser> I wonder if someone is reading this because I fell a little dumb writing by myself here :p
[23:46] <Commonuser> See ya