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kernixhi all00:01
eeeehello00:01
kernixhey eeee00:01
MelarI removed most of my old kernels but removed the last one... so I quick installed generic image 3.13.0-35 but still have no drivers or networking or usb on a aoa-150 netbook00:01
blackangelprguys any one know  a bit about grub i could not boot after using my ssd on another computer :p  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8192171/00:02
Melarjust need a direction to go in I got too trigger happy because my /boot had only 100mb00:02
eeee_josh: did you add the readline headers?00:03
BeldarMelarHave you run a apt-get update and dist-upgrade yet?00:04
Melarnetworking is defunct00:05
Melarifconfig gies me lo only00:05
BeldarMelar, had you modified the kernel from /etc/default/grub ?00:05
blackangelprMelar, did you disable it by mistake on bios? :(00:05
_josheeee, yes. turns out i needed to put -lreadline at the end of the gcc command instead00:06
evil_dan2wikI need the package for LibSDL 1.2, what is it called?00:06
LucasTTgoogle chrome is showing no icons00:07
LucasTThow do i fix that?00:07
blackangelprevil_dan2wik, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl-image1.2-dev00:07
blackangelpranyone knows how to remake grub from live cd? :(   http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl-image1.2-dev00:08
skylakewhen is skylake going to drop?00:09
prohoboi dunno, i guess when he decides to00:09
Melarokay dying here... any ides?00:13
Melar*ideas?00:13
expungeMelar: keep living instead?00:13
Melarlol00:14
expungeMelar: what's up?00:14
expungeso get a new kernel00:15
expungeMelar: you can get a list of drivers to work from by booting up the Ubuntu live OS (install media) and running 'lsmod'00:17
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sveinseIs it possible to list which so's a running program is using? In particular I'm speculating that something in the unity world is picking an incorrect .so file00:21
cn28hsveinse: /proc/[pid]/maps maybe00:24
cyberjunkieDoes anyone know of any good video tutorials for recompiling a kernel for ubuntu?00:27
cyberjunkieThat or a good set of instructions from a site.00:28
z9999hello Beldar00:29
z9999Beldar, are you around?00:29
cyberjunkieNot recompiling but compiling a kernel i mean.00:29
Beldarz9999, yes00:30
z9999hi Beldar i couldnt get anything done last night00:30
z9999Beldar, i tried unetbootin and it didnt load the iso into the usb00:31
z9999Beldar, i can't get winusb because of the new version of ubuntu i have00:31
z9999Beldar, yumi doesnt work because it is for ubuntu not windows00:31
z9999Beldar, what else?00:31
cyberjunkiewhy don't you use the dd command?00:31
cyberjunkieSorry to interupt.00:31
Beldarz9999, yes I saw that, my suggestion is finding someone to help you with this there. Basically you were given several tools that work, but could not figure them out, we can only do so much here. ;)00:32
z9999Beldar, no multiboot this time. right now i will be happy to get windows and later i can install ubuntu into a usb00:32
z9999Beldar, oh i see00:32
cyberjunkieAre u creating windows or ubuntu?00:33
z9999cyberjunkie, i am in ubuntu but i am trying to reinstall windows. ideally i want to do dual os but i am i can't figure it out00:34
cyberjunkieUse rufus for windows.00:34
z9999cyberjunkie, i can't even figure out how to reinstall windows right now00:34
Beldarz9999, You are welcome to keep asking, myself I can only show you so much is all.00:34
cyberjunkieWrite iso to usb using rufus00:34
z9999ok Beldar i understand. i don't mean to frustrate people tryin to help00:34
cyberjunkiethen when u get windows download wubi to install ubuntu along side windows.00:35
cyberjunkieSearch for rufus.00:35
z9999Beldar, for some reason installing ubuntu was so easy i didn't know it would be so much trouble trying to reinstall windows00:35
cyberjunkieI just used it the other day.00:35
z9999cyberjunkie rufus can take a windows.iso?00:36
cyberjunkieSearch "download rufus" in google.00:36
cyberjunkieYes, I  just installed windows three days ago with rufus.00:36
z9999thanks cyberjunkie00:36
z9999:)00:36
z9999some hope00:36
cyberjunkieNow, I a bk in linux. lol00:36
cyberjunkieI am back*00:36
cyberjunkieBut rufus is a reliable program to install windows. I used another windows laptop though to use rufus.00:38
cyberjunkieThere is many usb writers though.00:38
cyberjunkieIf you can't use a usb writer though use the dd command.00:38
cyberjunkieDo u know how to use the dd command?00:39
cyberjunkieWhat is the name of your iso file?00:39
cyberjunkieI will give you the command to put the iso on your usb from terminal.00:40
z9999hmmm ok00:40
z9999brb00:40
z9999gonna cme back00:40
faryshtahi, where is the apache error log on ubuntu?00:40
reevothelp00:42
zzzz9999hello00:42
zzzz9999i am back00:42
zzzz9999who was i speaking to?00:43
zzzz9999hello Beldar00:43
cyberjunkieMe00:43
zzzz9999i don't mean to be annoying Beldar00:43
cyberjunkiezzzz999900:43
cyberjunkieGive me the name of the iso.00:43
zzzz9999cyberjunkie, is it ok i pm you? i don't want to annoy others. i have been trying to get help since last night. some are really annoyed with me00:43
cyberjunkieIdc.00:44
cyberjunkiePm away but give me the name of the iso00:44
Jeffrey_fcan someone explain how to, once you fix code, that you can upload it?00:46
Jeffrey_fmeaning Launchpad00:46
trismJeffrey_f: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html00:47
expunge!contribute00:48
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu00:48
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judh1234hello?00:51
faryshtahi00:55
faryshtahow can i check apache error log on ubuntu?00:55
OerHekstail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log00:56
Jeffrey_fThanks trism00:56
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faryshtaOerHeks, file not found.01:05
derek-gcan anyone help me with this issue:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/464600/cant-get-monitor-image-back-on-after-toggling-monitor-power-button  ?01:08
expungederek-g: does the monitor have a light for indicating it's on?01:12
faryshtahow can i check apache error log on ubuntu?01:12
expungefaryshta: /var/log/01:12
K1rkfaryshta: Probably in /var/log/apache2/error.log01:12
K1rkderek-g: If lightdm is crashing you might find some insights in /var/log/syslog, but as it sounds like you are toggling the monitor power that should not communicate anything back to lightdm and cause a crash.  Sounds more like a monitor issue.01:14
K1rkderek-g: If you just do CTRL+ALT+F1 and then do CTRL+ALT+F7 or F8 (don't restart ligthdm, just switch off the GUI to TTY and back to GUI) does that also resolve the issue?  Maybe restarting lightdm isn't what's actually fixing it, maybe going to TTY is fixing it.01:14
faryshtaexpunge, K1rk got it, it wasthere but i needed root permissions to see it01:14
derek-gK1rk, no. I think I dfound a bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/131353901:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1313539 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "monitor shows black screen and "no input signal" after turning the monitor off and on manually" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:15
K1rkfaryshta: Ah, yeah, you will.01:15
finrodI just asked the hardware room which is the best program for monitoring my desktop PC's health, temperature and processes.  So far, my sources say Htop, Im_sensors and desert_eagle, but which is the best for an old desktop PC running ubuntu?01:16
K1rkderek-g: weird.01:16
K1rkfinrod: htop doesn't monitor temp I don't think?01:16
K1rkfinrod: What do you mean exactly by "monitor" also?01:17
K1rkIf you want to receive alerts you'll want to look at something like Nagios or Opsview01:17
expungefaryshta: it was in /var/log/, I know =)01:17
finrodYeah, it's just a task manager, so may be I don't need Htop.  May be ubuntu already has a task manager.  I have no idea.01:17
faryshtasomeone know howto configure dnsmasq? i am trying that *.faryshta.local answers on 127.0.1.1 but i haven't been able to do it01:18
K1rkfinrod: What exactly are you trying to look at?01:18
K1rkfinrod: Munin is a nice tool for trending CPU usage, memory usage, number of processes, bandwidth usage, etc -- over time.  Maybe this is what you are looking for?01:19
sveinsefaryshta: .local domain is very commonly assigned to DNS-SD (dns service discovery) in the avahi service (aka zeroconf or bonjour)01:20
K1rkMunin can probably do processor temps and stuff too if you install lm_sensors and do a plugin, but I haven't done it.01:20
rwwI'd go with munin + its lm-sensors plugin. It's what I use.01:20
K1rkrww: Ah nice I figured it had a plugin.01:20
faryshtasveinse, ok how do i do it?01:20
finrodI noticed when I opened up my PC, it's got all kinds of hardware jammed in together really close and it felt pretty hot, so I suspect I may be running it too long for the fan to handle that heat01:20
K1rkFans are cheap01:21
K1rkAnd just because it feels hot doesn't mean the temp isn't safe01:21
sveinsefaryshta: Well, you don't. Avahi look up the .local name on you local network and replies any found matches. AFAIK you can't make it reply looback addresses01:21
K1rkfinrod: Probably a good idea to just check some of your readings and see what the temps are and check what's safe for your hardware.01:22
faryshtasveinse, then why ping app.faryshta.local send error?01:22
K1rkfinrod: Trending over time with Munin certainly wouldn't be bad, you could see if it is getting hotter over time01:22
finrodThe fan is really loud but probably doing a good job01:23
sveinsefaryshta: ...if avahi is in use in the first place. How to configure dnsmasq is out of my knowledge, unfortunately01:23
faryshtasveinse, ok how do i put avahi on use in 14.04?01:23
K1rkfinrod: What components are you most concerned about in this rig?  Generally hard drives and processors are what will have thermal sensors.01:23
K1rkfinrod: smartmontools can tell you the current temp of your hard drive if it supports SMART, it can also tell you how hot it has ever been.01:24
sveinsefaryshta: How would that help you? What are you trying to do with avahi?01:24
faryshtasveinse, what i am trying to do is that *.faryshta.local answers on 127.0.1.101:24
faryshtasveinse, if you say i can do it with avahi the question is how01:24
K1rkfinrod: You may find this link useful.  http://technicalworldforyou.blogspot.com/2013/05/monitor-you-cpu-and-harddisk.html01:25
finrodthanks a lot Kirk01:25
sveinsefaryshta: No, avahi can look your machin up on your lan and give you your LAN addr, but it would never give you your loopback addr01:26
K1rknp finlstrm01:26
K1rk*np finrod01:26
faryshtasveinse, ok then do you know how to do what i need?01:27
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sveinsefaryshta: Nope. And frankly I dont see why01:27
ampygoddamn there's a lot of people here01:29
K1rklol01:29
ampySo let's say I deleted unity_support_test from my system. Anywhere I can download that?01:31
* K1rk realizes how much of a Debian person he has become01:31
puffHi, I'm trying to get sketchup working on ubuntu 14.01:33
OerHeks!find unity_support_test01:33
puffhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8192773/01:34
ubottuFile unity_support_test found in nux-tools01:34
OerHeksreinstall nux tools01:34
puffBut apt is telling me if I install wine1.7, I'll uninstalls smbclient, which cups-client recommends... how important is smbclient?01:34
ampyyeah I got nux tools thanks01:34
K1rkpuff: Are you connecting to any Windows machines?01:35
OerHeksampy, so how did you remove unity_support_test anyway?01:35
ampyrm unity_support_test01:35
K1rkampy: .... why?01:35
ampyit kept saying "unexpected ")"" when I ran it01:35
ampyand I couldn't actually look at it because it was encoded in zimbabwean or something01:36
ampySo just a general poll - did everyone else have to do a bit of tweaking after upgrading to 14?01:38
ampyThere were several system errors I had to personally resolve.01:38
sakamopHi. With multiple machines, is there some kind of way of setting up a centralised repo mirror so that everyone doesn't have to download updates separately?01:38
expungesakamop: no doubt01:39
ampyDo you already have a repo?01:39
ampyI think it's the same as setting up any other repository, but don't quote me on that.01:40
sakamopampy: expunge I meant the main Ubuntu mirror.01:40
ampyoh01:40
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expungesakamop: http://www.unixmen.com/setup-local-repository-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-04-server/01:40
sakamopexpunge: Thanks.01:41
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OerHeksi'd love to run my own mirror, how much space would that take?01:42
expungeOerHeks: for everything, or just the packages you use?01:43
K1rksakamop: You're trying to save bandwidth I assume?01:44
OerHeksexpunge, complete 32/64 bit repos, 50 gb?01:44
vadiI've got a dualmonitor setup, and games keep seeing the wrong monitor as the primary monitor. I'm on nvidia proprietary drivers. Is there any fix for this?01:45
Beldarhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror01:45
K1rkAh it looks like sakamop left.01:45
K1rkOne thing my old work did, with a great success, was we set up a reverse proxy with caching enabled of us.archive.ubuntu.com with Squid on an internal server, and redirected traffic using internal DNS01:45
K1rkSaved a lot of bandwidth and didn't require a full mirror or any administrative attention ever01:46
K1rkI think we allocated like 20GB of space and configured Squid to cache anything up to 500MB or something01:46
K1rkAnd it took care of itself01:46
ampygoddammit01:47
expungeOerHeks: is it? That sounds low01:47
ampysomeone explain this : http://postimg.org/image/ym1lqvlpz/01:47
ampythere's a bunch of files that have this "unexpected ")"" thing going on01:47
expungeOerHeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors 642? =)01:48
expungeampy: 'sh' is not bash on ubuntu01:48
OerHeksBeldar, expunge thanks, 600 gb+01:48
expungeampy: try using 'bash'01:48
expungeor re-alias 'sh'01:49
OerHeksbut that would do all versions, not only 14.04 i guess01:49
expungealthough that would probably give you problems with people assuming sh on Ubuntu is what it ordinarily is =P01:49
OerHeks!language | ampy01:50
ubottuampy: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList01:50
expungeampy: what's that wallpaper?01:50
ampyerrr I've used sh before with no problems but bash gives me "cannot execute binary file" - mayhaps it's missing an extension? should just be your ordinary executable01:50
ampyah the wallpaper is just some cool art I found online01:50
ampydon't know the artist, sorry01:50
ampybut I have more01:50
ampycould upload it later01:50
PP5JEBwine01:51
expungeampy: I can find it, if you show it to me =P01:55
ampyfind what?01:57
ampybtw those walls http://www.4shared.com/archive/z48EWthXce/wallztar.html01:57
ApteryxHello! I'm trying to configure custom options for my mouse under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-logitech.conf01:59
ApteryxThe configuration works when I'm on the login screen (lightdm) of Ubuntu.01:59
ApteryxBut as soon as I login, the configuration is reset...01:59
ampydid you just edit the conf file? you didn't try the mouse gui?02:00
expungeeh, too lazy to create a fake account just to download something =P02:00
ampyoh where's a good place to upload stuff02:00
Apteryxampy: What I want to achieve is not available via the GUI02:00
raydecampoI'm having an issue with the password collection screen after the system has been locked and I am trying to figure out which package to write the bug against02:01
Apteryxampy: I have 2 mouses connected, and I want to change the buttons mapping of just one of them.02:01
expungemice =)02:01
ApteryxIt seems udev detects the mouse two times02:01
ApteryxOne time at the login screen, and another time after the login is processed.02:02
expungeraydecampo: what issue02:02
ApteryxAnd the configuration is lost at the second detection.02:02
ApteryxCould well be a bug.02:02
ampyI've had that problem before Apteryx02:02
michael_Hello All I have just had a motherboard failure and have move my hard drive from amd64 system to intel core 2 system everything appears to be working but just wondering about change my software sources or current packages that are installed for my old system02:02
ampyI don't know how to solve it, unfortunately02:02
raydecampoexpunge: the textfield for the password is sometimes missing making difficult to log in02:02
expungemichael_: your higher level software won't care02:03
expungemichael_: you might want to tweak your lower level hardware driver type stuff02:03
expungeor potentially not =)02:03
expungeraydecampo: missing?02:03
raydecampoexpunge: right, there's nothing to type in.  I can sometimes get around it via ctrl-alt-f7 or -f8 or in a pinch -f1 and either log out other users or restart lightdm02:04
OerHeksmichael_, i would run updates to see what happens02:04
michael_expunge, ok cheers how do i check what might be need is there a guide online I can look at02:04
ampyapt-get update?02:05
michael_OerHeks, it wants to install amd64 packages02:05
sydneyfor some reason ubuntu randomly started treating my front audio port like my back one. how to fix?02:06
raydecampoexpunge: I'd use ubuntu-bug to generate a bug report but I don't have a GUI when the issue arises02:06
Basketballhow can i recover a perminate deleted file it was either a .docx or .doc it was in my downloaded folder and idk the name of it02:06
roastedhello friends02:06
OerHeksmichael_, that is fine amd64 invented the hybrid 32+64 bit processor02:06
Apteryxampy: ok! The Xorg.0.log has seems to have something to say about it, but I couldn't decryt the meaning of it. I've copied the part of it related to the Logitech mouse here: http://pastebin.com/Abnu5iyY02:06
puffK1rk: Not connecting to any windows machines, but to a printer.02:06
ampysydney do you use pulse?02:06
BasketballOerHeks, how can i recover a perminate deleted file it was either a .docx or .doc it was in my downloaded folder and idk the name of it02:06
ampyor what?02:06
roastedIs anybody having issues with appindicator1 lately? It keeps asking me when I log in if I want to install it. I see that dropbox, owncloud, etc is missing as there is no appindicator installed. Trick is, if I install it, it removes chrome....??02:06
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puffK1rk: I'm using an hp photosmart 6520 wireless printer.02:07
eeeeBasketball: try testdisk02:07
Basketballeeee,  how02:07
OerHeksBasketball, not i guess, you could try a forensic tool like testdisk02:07
expungemichael_: that is, intel core is 'amd64' arch02:07
eeeeBasketball: sudo apt-get install testdisk02:07
Basketballeeee,  ok how do i use it02:08
eeeeBasketball: was the filesystem ntfs or fat ?02:08
OerHeksi would not install something on the drive that lost a doc02:08
sydneyampy: yes,but it only shows 1 output.02:08
Basketballeeee,  idk02:08
Apteryxampy: I'll remove my custom .conf in xorg.conf.d and see if the errors in Xorg.0.log go away. If so... I'll report a bug.02:08
eeeeBasketball: was it a drive you use on windows or linux ?02:08
Basketballlinux02:08
raydecampoBasketball: install it from a live disk - stop using the disk with the data asap02:08
Basketballi only have one dive02:09
Basketballraydecampo,  i deleted it 3 hours ago02:09
eeeeBasketball: sudo testdisk, then select don't log, then select the drive, press enter when it says the partition type,02:10
ampyyeah apteryx I looked at the error message and it's a perl thing, has to do with erroneous code02:10
eeeethen quick search, when you see your partition press p to view the files, then c to copy them02:10
michael_expunge, ok cool thanks for your help have a great day02:10
michael_:)02:10
ampymaybe you messed up your syntax while editing the conf file02:10
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eeeeBasketball: or C , i forgot02:11
michael_OerHeks, cheers :)02:11
raydecampoexpunge: do you think the missing password textfield fall under lightdm, unity or unity-greeter?02:11
michael_Bye for now all02:11
Basketballeeee,  do i do analysis geometry or etc02:11
eeeeno02:11
Basketballeeee,  which do i select02:11
eeeeBasketball: select analyse02:11
Apteryxampy: Possible. Are you good at this? Would you mind taking a quick look?02:12
ampysydney this sounds dumb but did you restart? also mess around with recording applications like audacity, look at all the monitors, see where all inputs and outputs go, reinstall pulse, i dunno man there's a lot of guesswork involved02:12
expungeraydecampo: I think there are people on bug trackers who fix miscategorized things02:12
Basketballeeee,  quick serch or backup02:12
ampyapteryx: oh perl is all greek to me, that's just what google-fu came up with02:12
eeeeBasketball: quick search02:12
raydecampoexpunge: Yeah if I couldn't find someone who knew tonight I was just going to write it against something and hope for the best02:13
Basketballdeeper search or write02:13
Basketballand should i have selected swamp02:13
eeeedeeper search02:13
eeeeno02:13
Basketballok good i didnt02:13
OerHeksBasketball, my experience is: testdisk finds direct the files that are recoverable, or not.02:13
ampyapteryx: btw the information came from here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1605195/inappropriate-ioctl-for-device02:13
OerHekshttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step02:14
Apteryxampy: for reference, here's my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-logitech-mouse.conf: http://pastebin.com/rS5FmWwQ02:14
eeeeBasketball: my experience with testdisk is that if it's fat it's recoverable, ext4 ... not always02:14
expungemy experience is... oh wait I keep backups =)02:15
eeeeexpunge: lol02:15
ampyapteryx: formatting error? I honestly have no clue02:15
eeeeBasketball: when you see the partition press stop02:15
OerHeksOne who does test his backup, can be lazy02:15
Basketballeeee,  i only have 1 partition02:16
Apteryxampy: ok :) thanks. What led you to perl?02:16
Basketballeeee,  it is doinf analysis cylinder02:16
eeeeBasketball: what02:16
eeeeBasketball: testdisk isn't to mess around with02:16
voltSup pl0x02:17
eeeeBasketball: did you press stop ?02:17
Basketballeeee, i just closed it02:17
eeeeok,02:17
Basketballeeee,  whatever i will start over02:17
eeeeok,02:18
ampyInappropriate ioctl is a peperl error messagerpl02:18
eeeeif it doesn't find it in the quick search02:18
eeeethen deep search, it'll show up, then press stop02:18
eeee( should show up )02:18
eeeethen press p to view the files02:19
volt_join #help02:20
Basketballeeee,  on quick search i see my patiton no files though02:20
eeeeare you sure it's your partition ?02:20
eeeeyou mentioned swap earlier ?02:20
Basketball Linux                    0  32 33 14333 114 53  23026483202:21
Basketball1 * Linux                    0  32 33 14333 114 53  23026483202:21
Basketball 2 P Linux Swap           14333 147 23 14593  65 48    417176002:21
eeeeok and when you press p over Linux what happens02:21
Basketballeeee,  how do i get to linux my tab keys only move to quit and deep search andwrite02:22
eeeeup and down02:23
Basketballeeee,  does noting02:23
eeeeBasketball: i see, press deeper search02:23
eeeeif it comes up press p02:23
eeeeif you want i think you should try something else02:23
Basketballeeee,  if what comes up02:23
eeeeif the partition comes up02:23
eeeepress q, until you reach the drive selection02:24
Jpmhwhat is the simplest way to cause a script to be executed at the end of startup?02:24
eeeeselect the drive, this time select intel if you didn't before02:24
netlarIs there some utility that will change the close button behavior in Unity?02:25
volt/etc/init.d?02:25
eeeeJpmh: /etc/rc.local if you need root privileges, /etc/profile otherwise02:25
eeeenetlar: look into ubuntu-tweak and compiz02:26
eeeeBasketball: after selecting the drive, select intel if you hadn't before02:26
Jpmheeee: isn't /etc/profile done when users sign on rather than when the system comes up?02:27
Jpmhvolt: suspect that is what I want, I will check out the documentation02:27
netlareeee: I heard Ubuntu-tweak is not good02:28
voltWhat IDLE is preferred?02:28
eeeetry compiz02:28
Basketballeeee,  i see the file i pressed c to copy how do i paste it02:29
voltIDE*02:29
eeeeit should ask you where to copy to02:29
BasketballDirectory /home/harris/Downloads02:29
BasketballCopy done!02:29
Basketballi dont see it in downloads02:29
eeeeBasketball: that's where it was copied from, not to02:30
eeeeafter you press c, it asks you to select the destination02:31
Basketballeeee,  i will jsust start over02:31
cfhowlettnetlar, depends what you consider "good".  It does make it quite easy to do some micro-level tweaking that is normally well hidden.  Also makes it easy to break micro-level stuff because it's normally well-hidden.02:31
eeeeit's ok02:31
eeeeno02:31
eeeeBasketball: just press q02:31
Basketballeeee,  i quit it already02:31
netlarcfhowlett: Just do not want to make the system unstable02:31
* jelmd wonders, wether hands-off installation of ubuntu is possible at all …02:33
rwwyou do the same thing you do with any other OS: install it on one machine, then multicast image it out to the other machines02:33
cfhowlettnetlar, somehow, I've managed to live without it but - YMMV02:34
netlarcfhowlett: Think I am trying to make it like OSX02:34
jelmdrww: I meant installation, not doing stupid things02:35
netlarcfhowlett: The launcher minimizes too, not that bad, the Launcher does lots of cool things anyway02:36
sydneyfixed :)02:36
cfhowlettnetlar, I've got the wallpapers from OSX snow leopard and lion.  easy to set them up.  Also discovered that the theme.packs from win7 can be extracted for use. BUT I still use mostly stock ubuntu studio02:36
netlarcfhowlett: I do like the look of Unity02:37
netlarcfhowlett: Just changed Icons to Elementary ones02:37
rolleiflexanother hour, another packaging question02:38
rolleiflexI'm releasing my own app as deb02:38
cfhowlettnetlar, I do have one tasty background wallpaper that you might like = Ray Traced ubuntulogo on dark background.  Would you acccept a DCC?02:38
rolleiflexis there a recommended location to put the application binaries on ubuntu / debian?02:38
rolleiflexI couldn't find anything, I think everybody thinks it to be obvious, but I have no idea, so...02:39
netlarcfhowlett: DCC?02:39
eeeerolleiflex: you mean you're own applications?02:39
cfhowlettnetlar, file transfer via IRC.  I just sent the offer, but it won't transfer without your approval.02:39
rolleiflexeeee: no, I mean the application I develop02:39
rolleiflex(www.getaether.net)02:40
eeeerolleiflex: you can have a ~/bin and put stuff there, and it'll be added to your path on startup02:40
netlarcfhowlett: I am in irssi02:40
rolleiflexI am releasing a linux version02:40
cfhowlettnetlar, or get it from my spreadubuntu    http://spreadubuntu.org/en/users/cfhowlett02:40
voltrolleiflex: add in into bin02:40
rolleiflex~/bin or /bin?02:40
eeeerolleiflex: well, apps go to /usr/bin usually02:40
rolleiflexok, this is a locally installed app, so wouldn't usr/bin make it available to all users02:41
eeeerolleiflex: yes it would02:41
rolleiflexeeee: I see. thanks. I'd rather use ~/bin then02:42
netlarcfhowlett: I have been having trouble with some wallpapers02:42
rolleiflexanother question I have is, is there a way to add this application to startup, if the user selects it from the user settings?02:42
netlarcfhowlett: Most work ok, but some will not show up on the lock screen, just the orange background02:42
rolleiflexI know how to add it from the command line, but I was wondering if there was a 'startup' folder to which I can drop my startup file, and remove as prompted02:43
rolleiflexlike windows or os x launchd02:43
sydneyWhat of the 3 versions of mp4 is the 'normal' one?02:43
eeeerolleiflex: well, for the user, you could write to ~/.profile i guess02:44
pfsense_rookierolleiflex, shouldn't there be an application called startup?02:44
cfhowlettnetlar, I'm on xubuntu.  tried to set up a customized wallpaper folder, but the system kept reverting to the system folder.  Finally, I sudo cp'd my custom wallpapers to the system wallpaper folder.  problem solved.02:44
eeeerolleiflex: not sure if there's a better way02:44
pfsense_rookierolleiflex, on your system I mean.02:44
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rolleiflexpfsense_rookie: I don't use linux GUI very much, care to explain more?02:44
rolleiflexeeee: I'll try that, thanks02:45
eeeenp02:45
rolleiflexbtw, there is no ~/bin on my machine02:45
voltrolleiflex: it's called startup applications02:45
eeeerolleiflex: yeah, you have to mkdir it02:45
pfsense_rookierolleiflex, nevermind then.02:45
rolleiflexah I see, thanks02:45
rolleiflexvolt yes, how do I add my entry there, programmatically?02:46
eeeerolleiflex: is this app for ubuntu?02:46
rolleiflexeeee: yes, I am releasing on ubuntu first02:46
rolleiflexfor the rest of the distros I'll provide the binaries only02:46
voltrolleiflex: haven't used it before though. I suppose you add in the path to script etc02:47
eeeeok cool, was going to tell you i'm not sure all distros check if theres a ~/bin and add to the path, ( btw ~/.profile checks if the bin is there and adds it )02:47
rolleiflexyeah, I guess that's the way it goes02:48
rolleiflexI'm pretty sure there is a way to access it programmatically but I don't know how to do that02:48
eeeerolleiflex: ~/.config/autostart02:50
eeeejust googled it02:50
rolleiflexeeee: thanks! I ended up with that too it seems02:50
eeeeyou have to add a .desktop file02:50
rolleiflexI have that desktop file, yeah02:50
rolleiflexI think it goes to ~/.local/share/applications as per debian02:51
rolleiflexbut what I discovered is wherever you put this file works02:51
rolleiflexso that's good, thanks02:51
ampywhoa02:51
eeeenp02:52
voltWhat is everyone up to?02:52
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Guest42281hubba hubba02:58
luks1hello02:58
royalaxehello all, does anyone know of a url where there are heaps of useful scripts for ubuntu?03:05
OerHeksroyalaxe, https://launchpad.net/projects/+index?text=script03:07
royalaxethankyou OerHeks03:08
WonderfulheartBuon giorno a tutti!03:09
cfhowlett!it | Wonderfulheart03:09
ubottuWonderfulheart: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)03:09
royalaxemate, fantastic, that link is the ducks nuts03:09
WonderfulheartGood morning at all!03:09
royalaxehello Wonderfulheart03:10
WonderfulheartHi!03:10
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!03:14
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!03:14
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!03:14
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!03:14
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!03:14
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!!03:14
unopastefavonian_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted03:14
hephaestus|rgwebhello, could someone help me fix my packet loss? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8184798/03:15
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!!!03:15
favonian_I used to date a guy named Ubuntu.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass!!!!!!!!03:15
hephaestus|rgwebfor the driver, it says b43-pci-bridge03:16
hephaestus|rgwebit's a bcm4311 rev 01 (b/g only)03:17
zerothishow would one install android x86 using chroot under ubuntu?03:17
rwwthe same way you'd install it using chroot on any other OS, I expect03:18
rwws/OS/distro/03:18
zerothisrww: so how's that? I've never installed another distro using chroot03:19
cicero_Boa noite povâo03:19
rwwzerothis: no idea, go ask the android x86 folks03:19
cicero_estou precisando esclarecer uma duvida03:19
rwwubottu: pt | cicero_03:20
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hephaestus|rgwebany wifi experts around?03:21
rwwzerothis: (who appear to live at #android-x86)03:22
cicero_ubottu : tem ninguém la cara03:25
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cicero_de boa03:26
zerothisrww: thanks03:26
OerHekshephaestus|rgweb, this used to be the trick on 12.04, maybe it applies for you too > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880&page=10&p=13016117#post1301611703:28
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hephaestus|rgwebOerHeks: didn't work03:50
john_doe_jrI'm using the dd command to transfer some data and and I wanted to know what the error message is "Device not configured" …do u know what that means?03:50
z9999999hello cyber?04:01
CreeLuxhas anyone here run into odd issues while trying to install the latest from cd onto a solid state drive?04:05
cfhowlett!anyone04:06
aceanimationsd04:18
z9999999cyberjunkie i am here04:19
rawfodogim trying to install something on ubuntu server but im getting this error http://pastebin.com/MSGMTnYu04:21
hunescohello04:23
K1rkHello hunesco, can we help you with something?04:24
hunescoi hope yes K1rk04:24
hunescoi am runing one ubuntu server04:24
K1rkGo ahead and just ask your question hunesco04:24
hunescoand i like know how download rtmp files04:24
hunescostreaming files04:24
hunescomaybe command line or program04:24
SchrodingersScat!info rtmpdump | hunesco04:25
ubottuhunesco: rtmpdump (source: rtmpdump): small dumper for media content streamed over the RTMP protocol. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4+20121230.gitdf6c518-1 (trusty), package size 45 kB, installed size 149 kB04:25
hunescoInternet Download Manager get this files in windows, but i have no win in ubuntu by wine04:25
SchrodingersScathunesco: but mileage may vary04:25
K1rkhunesco: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1024632/rtmp-is-there-such-a-linux-command-line-tool04:25
hunescoi try rtmpdump, but i dont know make the magic begins04:26
hunesco:(04:26
SchrodingersScatthat mplayer way is new to me, might be worth a try04:26
deddokatanahttps://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help04:27
deddokatanaworth a look..04:27
hunescohm04:28
hunescortmpdump -r rtmplink -o /home04:28
hunescoreturns >04:28
hunescoINFO: Connected...04:28
hunesco-o: command not found04:28
hunescoroot@ns308459:~# ERROR: Closing connection: NetStream.Failed04:28
russ5811can anyone help me setup my 2nd HDD to auto mount at start? Having trouble with fstab04:37
K1rkruss5811: Sure fstab is not too bad04:38
K1rkruss5811: What is the dev path to the new drive?04:38
K1rk(eg. /dev/sdX#)04:38
russ5811one sec kirk04:38
russ5811dev/sdb04:39
K1rkWhat partition number on sdb?04:39
russ5811sorry dev/sdb104:39
K1rkok04:39
K1rkSo you should be able to mount like04:39
K1rk/dev/sdb1    /path/to/mountpoint    auto     errors=remount-ro     1     104:39
K1rkThen once you add that to fstab you can just run "mount /path/to/mountpoint" to test it.04:39
K1rkMount will attempt to read the fstab04:40
K1rkIf mount throws an error you can go from there.04:40
russ5811yes. i found something similar. can i show you what i did. b/c i get an error at boot04:40
K1rksure04:40
Ghost1227Yay! Just published my first indicator applet04:40
K1rk:)04:41
russ5811K1rk, did i do the pm correctly?04:42
Ghost1227Ironically, writing the applet was the easy part... packaging it was the hard part >_<04:42
K1rkruss5811: yeah04:43
raghumdaniinternet works fine in ubuntu but not in windows... any suggestions?04:45
meganerddon't use Windows04:48
meganerdraghumdani: there are any number of things that could be wrong, might want to ask around in a Windows channel04:49
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meganerdanyone here tried standing up a MAAS network fromthe 14.4 install?04:51
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SecretFireI installed a new internal sata drive, and now grub won't load anymore i have to press f12 to boot from my other hard drive, how do I fix this?04:55
russ5811anyone available for some fstab auto mount help04:58
meganerdsure05:00
Basketballis anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab05:01
russ5811can anyone help with an fstab problem05:03
clumsy_botSecretFire, You installed a new drive and it just refused to boot after that?05:04
SecretFireclumsy_bot, no it boots when i go to the bios boot menu but grub should come up without me having to do that, i don't think it is listed in fstab05:04
clumsy_botSecretFire, Hmm, that's a little beyond my expertise.05:05
dennhi05:05
meganerdSecretFire: I would look at the disk boot order in your bios05:05
meganerdSecretFire: also, sudo update-grub might help.05:06
SecretFiremeganerd : thats a good idea05:06
dennjust intalled kubuntu 14.0505:06
clumsy_botSecretFire, If I had problems with GRUB, I'd always assume that something happened to the partition or where GRUB was loaded. If it's just a matter of it not seeing your drive, update-grub should help.05:06
clumsy_botI had my fair share of GRUB problems, but it was mostly my own carelessness and removing GRUB hastily.05:06
dennI am new to linux05:06
clumsy_botdenn, Do you need help with something in particular?05:07
dennjust looking for tips on using it?05:07
clumsy_botdenn, Well I'm not exactly very experienced myself. I just jumped ship 2 ~ 3 months ago.05:08
denntired of windows virus's05:08
clumsy_botdenn, I hope you've got lots of spare time and a keen sense of interest in reading documentation. That's where you'll find what you need the most.05:08
clumsy_botdenn, If you are interested in learning the ins-and-outs of Linux, there's a course of EdX by the Linux Foundation.05:08
russ5811meganerd, i've added the following to my fstab /dev/sdb1 /plex/russ5811/HDD auto errors=remount-ro 1 1 then i unmounted, mounted, then i get a message saying ./plex/russ5811/HDD does not exist05:09
dennwell I am somewhat familiar with linux command line and terminal05:09
clumsy_botdenn, LFS101x Introduction to Linux is the name of the course.05:09
dennas I run 2 vps servers on linux05:09
clumsy_botdenn, Well then perhaps you could read up on just the package manager syntax and how to upkeep the system. It shouldn't be hard for Ubuntu.05:10
dennjut not sure on the desktop side of linux05:11
clumsy_botdenn, I spent the last months distro-hopping. I went from Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Manjaro, and back to Ubuntu.05:11
clumsy_botdenn, There's not much difference I believe. Since you're using Ubuntu and not some rolling-release like Arch or Debian Unstable, the risks of the system breaking a minimal.05:11
clumsy_botdenn, Perhaps if you're interested in installing proprietary drivers, you'd have to type a few commands to replace xorg.conf. Other than that, I think what you got from the VPS servers should be enough.05:12
dennok i will play around and get my drivers installed05:12
clumsy_botdenn, You've always got the forums and Google by your side.05:14
samthewildoneI have a problem with playing dvds on my laptop. When I play the same movie on my desktop it works05:14
clumsy_botdenn, Have fun, and good luck.05:14
denni was hoping kubuntu had a similar start menu system to windows05:14
meganerdruss5811: I would base it on the UUID instead05:14
dennok thank05:14
meganerdruss5811: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid05:14
clumsy_botdenn, I believe you should look into System settings. But if you really wanted an experience similar to Windows, perhaps take a look at Zorin OS.05:14
meganerdruss5811:  then in the fstab start with UUID=<UUID>05:14
lrcaballerodenn: try Lubuntu05:15
clumsy_botdenn, http://zorin-os.com/05:15
meganerdruss5811: that way it will work even if the drives are re-ordered or plugged in later05:15
denni jut put zorin on my desktop a a dual boot to win 705:15
clumsy_botdenn, Oh, how was it? You didn't like it?05:15
lrcaballerodenn: or install cinnamon DE05:15
meganerdruss5811: though that error is stating that the mount point does not exist05:15
clumsy_botdenn, Linux Mint would be up your alley if you wanted Cinnamon DE.05:16
denni love it, im testing other linux version out on my laptop05:16
russ5811meganerd, i've been on ubuntu for a few years, but am new to this level of editing. would you mind telling me the lines i need to put in fstab? i think you've given me the code to find the uuid, but am not sure how to make it unique once that is found. am i making sense?05:16
Andreahola05:16
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lrcaballeroHola Andrea05:17
meganerdruss5811: when you look in the /dev/disk/by-uuid directory, you will see a sym-link to the physical device, copy the name of that symlink (looks like hex with dashes), then in the fstab instead of specifying the device name, use the uuid, starting with UUID=05:17
dennubuntu 12.04 i what i run my VP' on and I added desktop and love that05:17
meganerdruss5811: your root is probably setup this way already05:18
clumsy_botdenn, Glad to hear you're enjoying your experience.05:18
dennsorry vps*05:18
dennthanks05:18
russ5811meganerd, so i should just copy the lines used for root but change the uuid...correct?05:18
dennI want to get to the point where I can dump windows05:19
meganerdruss5811: yup, and the mount point as well05:19
dennbut I will go through the settings on kubuntu and ee what I can do05:20
clumsy_botdenn, Depends on what you require from Windows.05:20
clumsy_botdenn, Anything in particular? Work applications and so on?05:20
dennnot alot but there are a few programs I still need, I ue wine and run some stuff from windows.05:21
clumsy_botdenn, Well if speed isn't much of a concern, I've heard that some people use a VirtualBox on their *nix machines.05:22
dennmostly Games now, I almost have halo working, I need video driver lol05:22
clumsy_botdenn, I'm just a student, so I can get by with a lot of the 'free/libre' applications.05:22
samthewildoneum can someone help me ?05:22
clumsy_botdenn, Are you running an AMD or nVidia card on your system?05:22
clumsy_botsamthewildone, What's up?05:22
samthewildoneclumsy_bot, dvd on laptop not playing dvds05:23
denntyes AMD CPU and nvida video05:23
samthewildoneput in the same dvd into my desktop and works05:23
clumsy_botsamthewildone, Have you tried installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?05:23
samthewildoneI tried everything05:23
samthewildonewent to google and still nothing05:23
samthewildoneinstall ibdvdcss 4... this and that05:23
clumsy_botsamthewildone, ubuntu-restricted-extras?05:23
samthewildoneyes'\05:24
clumsy_botdenn, nVidia's proprietary drivers are nice, much nicer than the AMD ones I get...05:24
clumsy_botsamthewildone, Well, you could always install VLC Player?05:24
samthewildonedid that05:24
clumsy_botsamthewildone, Still doesn't work?05:24
samthewildonethe video seems like it loads then dosn't05:24
samthewildonenope05:24
clumsy_botsamthewildone, The desktop is running Windows or Ubuntu?05:25
dennI will try to find the video drivers and install them05:25
samthewildoneubuntu05:25
clumsy_botsamthewildone, And this machine you're trying to setup with is a laptop?05:26
samthewildoneyes05:26
samthewildoneBoth using the same ubuntu05:26
samthewildoneboth updated05:26
samthewildoneboth using the same dvd05:26
dennthen I will keep windows on dualboot for a bit to make sure it all works05:26
samthewildone...05:26
samthewildonemy desktop works with the dvd05:27
clumsy_botdenn, Yea that would be best if you've got critical applications you need access to.05:27
KarmahackerHi all !  Anyone can suggest something like "Firemin" but  for linux?  Thank you05:27
clumsy_botsamthewildone, Well it's most likely a codec problem. My Google search turns up for a package called 'libdvdread4'05:27
dennbiggest thing is getting all my photos and such all backed up.05:27
dennhate to lose thoe05:28
clumsy_botdenn, Backup utilities for Windows are quite sketchy at best. The good ones are all commercial software.05:28
interwebHi , I want to format my external hard drive from exFAT to FAT32 and I've looked at Ubuntu 14.04 Disks software and there is an option named "Compatable with all devices (FAT)" Does it format to FAT32 or other FAT versions ?05:29
clumsy_botinterweb, FAT32 most likely.05:29
dennyep luckily I keep organized folders of important items05:29
finrodI have an old desktop PC with an AMD Athlon 64 processor and a 466 GiB Maxtor hard drive, running Xubuntu.  I've been doing some research to figure out the best software to monitor the health of my PC05:29
interwebclumsy_bot, Are you sure ? because a full slow format takes me 14 hours :)05:29
denntthanks for the chat good to meet you gtg cya05:29
Beldarinterweb, man parted05:30
clumsy_botdenn, No probs.05:30
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clumsy_botinterweb, Isn't there an option for quick-format?05:30
clumsy_botinterweb, I use Gparted for all my partitioning needs.05:30
clumsy_botsamthewildone, Well, I'm sorry I can't be of much help. Theoretically with the codecs installed, it should work.05:30
finrodI cam to the conclusion that PSensor looks the best, but I have not figured out how to install APM and ACPI using the Ubuntu Software Centre and the Synaptic Package Manager05:30
Beldarinterweb, If you like a gui install gparted.05:30
interwebclumsy_bot, Yes , but I've got some bad sectors ...05:30
clumsy_botinterweb, You're wiping out the whole drive right?05:31
russ5811meganerd, as soon as i boot, i can see the hdd in my file explorer, it shows as automount in "Disks" however, plex can't see it until i click on it on the left menu of file explorer and the eject icon shows up next to it. i must be missing something.05:31
interwebclumsy_bot, yes05:31
clumsy_botinterweb, I suppose you could create a whole new partition table. MSDOS or something.05:31
interwebclumsy_bot, how  ?05:32
clumsy_botinterweb, Get Gparted first if you're new to partitioning. Even I'm afraid of using the command-line tools.05:32
finrodAPM and ACPI look useful for monitoring temperatures and my PC and keyboard batteries, but I can't install them from Ubuntu Software Centre, and Synaptic Package Manager says one of them is only good for laptop PCs05:33
interwebclumsy_bot, I have it , But can'05:33
interwebcan05:33
interwebcan't find any extended formatting in it05:33
clumsy_botinterweb, There isn't any?05:33
meganerdruss5811: so it not mounted when you boot?05:33
clumsy_botinterweb, Odd. Let me pull up Gparted on my side.05:34
russ5811no05:34
meganerdruss5811: It should be listed when you do a "df -Th " from the command line05:34
Beldarinterweb, http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual05:34
russ5811meganerd: it's there05:34
meganerdruss5811: after a clean boot?05:35
phuhI've only used Ubuntu as my server OS but people tell me debian is more solid than ubuntu for production server... Do you guys agree? What makes you use ubuntu over debian?05:35
russ5811i'll reboot, and let you know.05:35
clumsy_botinterweb, It's under Device05:35
clumsy_botinterweb, Device > Create Partition Table...05:35
clumsy_botinterweb, Make sure you select the right disk.05:35
russ5811meganerd: i'll reboot and let you know.05:36
clumsy_botphuh, It's mostly because Debian allows you to have a more minimal install.05:36
clumsy_botphuh, And mostly because Debian has got a reputation for being really stable. Ubuntu is derived from Debian's Unstable branch.05:37
cfhowlettphuh, maybe you'd like to speak to #ubuntu-server about this05:37
phuhclumsy_bot: doesn't that worry you that it's based on unstable one?05:38
russ5811meganerd: did a clean boot. it'05:38
russ5811s not there05:38
clumsy_botphuh, It does actually. But I don't run servers for a job, I just like to tinker around. However, my experiences with Debian are mostly that it leaves the choice up to you, the user.05:38
Basketballis anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab05:39
meganerdruss5811: what does the fstab line look like?05:39
russ5811meganerd: it's not there anymore??? i did gedit in sudo, i'll try again05:40
interwebclumsy_bot, Is there any command line way to format a hard drive with slow speed (full format) ?05:43
russ5811meganerd: UUID=0113ad2f-2f89-43c4-bf94-65a42d096b8c /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       105:43
clumsy_botinterweb, IIRC, yes. I'm not too fond of command-line, I'm still relatively new to Linux.05:43
meganerdruss5811: that is the root line05:44
meganerdruss5811: the "/" is where the mount point goes05:44
russ5811meganerd: it's a copy of the root line with the uuid switched out05:44
clumsy_botinterweb, Perhaps this would help. It's the Arch wiki, but it's general enough that it applies to most other Linux distros. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning05:44
interwebI've heard that fat32 has 32GB limit , but my drive came with msdos(Fat32) format . How is that possible ?05:45
clumsy_botinterweb, I don't know about that. How big is this hard drive?05:45
interwebclumsy_bot, 1TB05:46
clumsy_botinterweb, Whoa, that's not usually possible. The drive actually worked?05:46
interwebclumsy_bot, Yes ,it has came with fat32 (msdos) format05:46
clumsy_botinterweb, The only limits I know that FAT32 has is on file sizes of up to 4GB05:47
clumsy_botinterweb, Looks like your info is correct. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938432.aspx05:47
russ5811meganerd: it's a copy of the root line with the uuid switched out. should i add the mount point i want?05:47
clumsy_botinterweb, It seems that the limit only applies to Windows 2000 and beyond.05:48
meganerdruss5811: yes05:48
clumsy_botinterweb, If you're looking for a partitioning format that can be used in both Linux and Windows, NTFS should be fine. I regularly transfer files via NTFS partitions and they all seem to work fine.05:48
meganerdclumsy_bot: just slow05:49
clumsy_botmeganerd, Yes, that is true. It's not the actual copying that's slow, just the part where they try to finish off the last few bytes of the files.05:50
interwebclumsy_bot, Does Mac support NTFS ? I don't like to format it again :/05:50
meganerdclumsy_bot: no, the actual write is slower (fuse is not a high performance solution)05:50
clumsy_botmeganerd, I should go read up more of the topic then. Haha.05:51
clumsy_botinterweb, If the OSX system has fuse installed, it should read...05:51
meganerdclumsy_bot: for most people it doesn't matter :)05:51
clumsy_botmeganerd, Haha, well all that time spent waiting for copying could be used for something else. Like actually doing something for example. HAHAHA :)05:52
russ5811meganerd, that did it. Thank you. been working on this for hours. i appreciate the help05:52
meganerdclumsy_bot: I completely agree05:52
meganerdclumsy_bot: plus it bugs me on principle :)05:52
finrodshould I install APM before I install ACPI for my desktop PC?05:53
DraginHow can I get a listing of channels that5 might include Ham Radio Deluxe help?05:54
rwwubottu: alis05:55
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*05:55
Draginthank you05:55
interwebclumsy_bot, There is a default software comes with Ubuntu 14.04 named Disks , Which version of FAT does it format to ? It is just said FAT05:56
GnomeD_Guys ubuntu forums website on my computer is not opening rest all others websites open. Trying from 3 days. Can anyone help05:56
tiresiashello all05:57
malkaunsanyone know how to get audacity to stop crashing on playback05:57
malkauns?05:57
* Dragin wavews05:57
* Dragin wave also ;)05:57
tiresiasthe sound doesn't work under firefox on my laptop05:57
tiresiasany idea for a diagnosis?05:58
* Dragin waves even :P lol05:58
Draginbigger hammer?05:58
clumsy_botInternet crapped out on me.06:00
cityturbocan anyone walk me through the nvidia process? i have a gtx750ti06:02
cityturboive read about it and its over my head...06:02
finrodIs there a command to see if my desktop PC supports APM?06:04
finrodOr a terminal command used to see if I have ACPI devices in my computer?06:07
clumsy_botcityturbo, You should just try installing it via Additional Drivers.06:08
cityturbocan you point me in that direction?06:10
cityturboi believe it comes up blank06:10
cityturboi need the command to add them06:10
clumsy_botcityturbo, Huh?06:12
cityturbosorry im very noob. i'll come back when i have more info on my sifde06:13
cityturboside*06:13
clumsy_botcityturbo, Under Software & Updates is a tab called Additional Drivers.06:13
clumsy_botcityturbo, It should fetch the drivers you need and install it for you while making the necessary configurations to xorg.conf06:13
clumsy_botcityturbo, No command-line needed IIRC06:13
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cityturbosweet thats music to my ears06:14
cfhowlettmalkauns, audacity does that way too often.  run it from terminal for the error messages and ask in the #audacity or #opensourcemusicians channel for support.06:14
samthewildone!offtopic06:15
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:15
FredTomhey all.. can anyone recommend a video editing tool for ubuntu.. i basically want to be able to open up videos, and cut sections out and export them as new videos06:16
cfhowlettFredTom, openshotg06:16
cfhowlett*openshot*06:16
cityturboit says no additional drivers available, i think i need to give it more info06:16
clumsy_botcityturbo, Hmm, in that case.06:17
clumsy_botcityturbo, Have you checked the Ubuntu documentation?06:17
clumsy_botcityturbo,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:18
cityturboim sorry its really hard for me to not just understand the documentation and the process i can google, its like... i don't know it enough to trust what im typing06:18
cfhowlettcityturbo, don't type.  copy and paste.06:18
clumsy_botcityturbo, Take a deep breath, relax. It's normal to eventually screw something up, I know I have a lot of times. It's a learning process.06:18
cityturbook i'll read, cheers06:18
cityturbooh ive screwed it up 100x06:19
cityturboit nearly have to re-load every time i reboot06:19
clumsy_botcityturbo, Well make those times count and learn from them. Good luck.06:19
cityturbothanks mate :)06:19
Player_Hi, just had a quick question: does ~/.bashrc need to be marked as an executable? (chmod +x)06:21
FredTomcfhowlett, awesomet thankyou06:21
rwwPlayer_: no06:21
cfhowlettFredTom, happy2help.06:22
Player_rww, Thanks, same deal for ~/.profile?06:23
rwwindeed06:23
geirhaPlayer_: they never get executed, only sourced, and that only requires read access06:26
Player_geirha, Thanks for explaining and clearing that up, everything makes sense now.06:29
GnomeDSome websites are not opening in my computer while others open. Everything works fine in windows. Can anyone help me please?06:29
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Guest5843hi!06:38
Basketballis anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab06:39
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schultzaim looking for /etc/ssl/CA.pl .. apprently it's not in the openssl package anymore in 14.04 server. is it somewhere else?06:54
jattschultza: $ dpkg -S /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl06:56
jattopenssl: /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl06:56
schultzaah, ok. thank you06:56
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unopastekafee651 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted06:58
helmut_hi07:01
interwebIs formatting a hard drive (HDD) for a several times bad for it (Maybe break it or may cause bad sectors ?)07:01
geirhaYou can also install apt-file and search for files installed by packages not currently installed.  apt-file search CA.pl07:01
trijntjeinterweb: no, it should be fine. But why would you do that?07:02
interwebtrijntje, I were trying different file systems :/ Still don't know which is the best for an external hard drive .07:02
interwebWhen I want to a new partition on an external hard drive should I choose extended ?07:04
geirhainterweb: normally formatting only requires writing a few kilobytes, that is unless you want to also wipe the data between each formatting, which takes much longer.07:05
trijntjeinterweb: no, extended only makes sense if you want more then 4 partitions on the external drive07:06
trijntjeI think the guidelines are : fat32 if you want to use it on windwos, linux and mac, NTFS if you want linux and windows, ext4 if you only want linux07:06
trijntjefat should be read by anything, even things like smart tv etc07:07
interwebtrijntje, I want to use use FAT32 but I can not stand with its 4 GB file size limitation . Is there any fix or something for it ?07:09
trijntjeI dont think so, thats one of the limitations of fat07:10
trijntjewhat do you want to use the external harddisk for?07:10
geirhaexFAT (aka FAT64) will allow bigger files, but it's not ready yet as far as I know.07:11
interwebtrijntje, I want to keep some Videos and Audios on it and want to use it on Linux and Mac .07:11
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trijntjeinterweb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182403707:12
interwebgeirha, I've tried exFAT but its driver on Ubuntu (fuse-exfat) had some problems :/07:12
trijntjeow that forum post is really old, sorry07:13
cynicallemoninterweb: then ext4 will do for linux/mac07:13
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cynicallemoninterweb: but you will need OSXFuse07:14
interwebcynicallemon, I like it more if it was supported out of box07:16
cynicallemoninterweb: then put linux on your mac :)07:16
interwebcynicallemon, LOL07:17
interwebcynicallemon, I'm not linus :))07:17
geirhathere's HFS plus, but that's not installed by default in Ubuntu (though available through apt)07:17
interwebgeirha, Does FAT64 works on TVs too ?07:18
cynicallemoninterweb: http://osxdaily.com/2014/03/20/mount-ext-linux-file-system-mac/ - if youre interested07:18
interwebgeirha, My TV supports FAT32 What about FAT64(exfat)07:19
finrodI am having some trouble uninstalling Psensor07:19
cynicallemoninterweb: most will support fat3207:19
FredTomhttps://answers.launchpad.net/openshot/+faq/1040  << i'm trying to get x264 to work07:20
FredTomwhat's synaptic package manager?07:20
geirhainterweb: Unlikely, FAT64 isn't even finished yet, afaik. Probably another 10 years before it's become common07:20
finrodI just installed PSensor, and discovered after installing it that I should have installed lm-sensors first07:20
finrodWhen I installed PSensor, there were no Optional Add-ons listed07:21
interwebgeirha, What do you mean by it is not finished ?07:21
cynicallemoninterweb most modern LCD TV's have a network port too so a samba server on the network is very useful or a dlna server07:21
finrodbut after installation, I checked the ubuntu software Centre, and there is an optional add-on for Hard drive temp07:22
finrodwhich I want07:22
finrodso my problem is, if I uninstall Psensor, should I keep that optional add-on checkmarked or not?07:23
finrodIf it is checkmarked, I assume it should be installed, but lm-sensors was never installed, so I am guessing that's why that optional add-on is not working, even though it may be installed07:24
interwebis there any difference between these file system's speed of writing and reading ?07:27
GnomeDSome websites are not opening in ubuntu while they open i Windows. Can anyone help?07:28
interwebGnomeD, Check your DNS settings07:28
GnomeDinterweb,  how? can u guide plz?07:29
interwebcynicallemon, trijntje , is there any difference between these file system's speed of writing and reading ?07:29
interwebGnomeD, Do you use unity ?07:29
GnomeDinterweb,  Gnome shell in 14.0407:30
interwebGnomeD, Sorry I'm not familiar with Gnome Shell .07:30
GnomeDinterweb,  thanks for help07:30
shaileshHello there07:32
shaileshI  need help in dignosing my laptop's wireless card issues07:32
shaileshwirelss card is detected sometimes and sometimes not07:33
shaileshand i am not sure why07:33
loaHello, autoupdater in my system sometimes show error "The cache has no package wine1.7-i386"07:37
loabut if i do upgrade by hands, simple apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:38
loaall working good and that problem dissapear.07:38
pavillonqbittorrent scarica ma non fa la ricerca07:43
geirhainterweb: Ah nevermind, I was wrong about that. Seems it has been around for a long while now, but microsoft will not disclose the full specs, so adopting it requires getting a licence from microsoft. Not everyone will bother with that.07:44
interwebgeirha, Are you talking about NTFS or Fat ?07:44
geirhaexFAT aka FAT6407:45
interwebgeirha, Yes , I've found some packages for linux exfat-fuse and exfat-utils but they had some bugs and when copying some files they were using more processor than FAT32 I've used .07:47
geirhaIf it had been open like FAT32, I bet it would be supported by everything but toasters07:47
interwebgeirha, :)07:48
interwebgeirha, Is btrfs stable enough ?07:51
GnomeDinterweb,  I tried changing DNS settings and it worked for me. I really appreciate your help07:52
geirhainterweb: No idea07:52
interwebGnomeD, Your welcome.07:53
GnomeDMy display resolution changes automaticall after system restart. I am using full HD monitor but due to some reason, I want to change lower resolution. When changed from system settings, lower resolution remains only for a session. After restart, it again changes to full HD. Can anyone help07:54
cmishrahow to check if usb flash frive is detected?07:55
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cmishralsusb shows the device07:55
cmishrabut fdisk doesnt07:56
finrodI am having trouble installing lm-sensors, anyone familiar with it?07:56
geirhacmishra: does dmesg mention anything about it?07:57
finrodI am instaling it onto an HP dx5150 SFF desktop PC07:57
GnomeDfinrod,  I have used lm-sensors in past. May I help? (Although I m not a geek)07:58
cmishrayes it is detecting.. but not mounting07:58
cmishrausing xfce07:58
finrod it's warning me that probing the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware is risky07:58
finrodmonitoring devices is risky, though works reasonably well on most systems. What about my HP desktop PC mentioned above? Is it safe for that system?07:59
finrodfor connected hardware monitoring devices is risky07:59
geirhacmishra: What letter does it get? /dev/sdb ?  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb  outputs nothing?08:00
finrodWhen lm-sensors says "connected hardware", do they mean anything outside of the fans, hard drives and CPU inside the case?08:01
cmishrait outputs no suck file or directory08:01
finrodOr does lm-sensors mean the hardware connected to the motherboard inside the computer case?08:01
geirhacmishra: That is odd08:02
dreamonIs it possible to stream desktop view to a samsung TV without using VGA/HDMI, LAN would be fine?08:02
cmishralet me post the output08:03
finrodGnomeD, did you probe your I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware, when you installed lm-sensors?08:04
cmishrapastebin.com/4xPiQZTe08:04
malkaunsanyone know how to get audacity to stop crashing on playback?08:05
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geirhacmishra: So dmesg looks promising, but for some reason udev appears to fail at creating a device node (/dev/sdb) for it08:06
geirhaor maybe double check that you didn't make a typo earlier08:06
finrodIs it worth the risk to probe my I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware?08:07
cmishraso what to do now?08:07
geirhacmishra: I guess figure out why udevd failed to create a device node for it, but don't know where to start08:09
cmishraokay ..08:11
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Guest26961ok08:26
Name141Does Xubuntu and Lubuntu now have LTS releases, or are they only supported with common releases ?08:31
Name141Like a few years ago.08:31
kristenbbi have two ubuntus 14.04 on the same computer, one with swap, the other without. is it possible to set the swap of the second one to the same partition as the first, and if so, how ?08:31
Name141(Well when Lubuntu wasn't official)08:31
clumsy_botName141, They should have LTS releases IIRC.08:32
Name141clumsy_bot: I suppose Lubuntu would probably be the most lightweight for older machines replacing XP?08:32
clumsy_botName141, Yes, it would be the most lightweight desktop environment.08:33
clumsy_botName141, I think pure window managers may be even lighter than LXDE.08:33
Name141clumsy_bot: well we don't want to get "too low".08:33
Name141as in not looking worth anything08:33
clumsy_botName141, Between Xfce and LXDE, I feel they're about the same. Although Xfce is slightly heavier (only by 20MB diff.), it's older and by that virtue is more mature.08:34
clumsy_botName141, Xfce therefore has more themes and support for GTK and other things.08:34
clumsy_botName141, LXDE has been merged with the Razor-Qt project to form LXQt if I'm not mistaken.08:35
Name141clumsy_bot: Any idea if 4670 support came back with ATi/AMD drivers after the latest few releases ?08:35
Name141as in not the free driver08:35
clumsy_botName141, You're talking about the fglrx drivers>08:35
clumsy_bot?08:35
Name141clumsy_bot: I suppose so08:35
clumsy_botName141, Last I heard, they dropped support for that and it's now under legacy.08:35
Name141I figure it wont be any good for low level games then to run the linux versions of games ?08:36
Name141(From steam)08:36
clumsy_botName141, If you really have to get it, I think Debian has some packages around. Not too sure whether they're usable with the newer kernel versions.08:36
kristenbbi have two ubuntus 14.04 on the same computer, one with swap, the other without. is it possible to set the swap of the second one to the same partition as the first, and if so, how ?08:36
clumsy_botName141, I'm running a HD5850 on free drivers, it seems to work well enough.08:36
Name141E2160  + 4670 got me up to GTA508:36
Name141err GTA408:36
clumsy_botName141, GTA4 is apparently running faster on Linux than on Windows.08:37
Name141clumsy_bot: That isn't hard to believe.08:37
Name141Max Payne 3 was the only decent game, if you don't count STILL LOADING08:37
clumsy_botName141, Yea, well it's surprising to me. Considering it was running through wine. Not exactly native.08:38
Name141but back on topic08:38
clumsy_botName141, The current fglrx release (14.1) isn't exactly stable with the newer kernels thanks to experimental Wayland being introduced.08:38
clumsy_botName141, This was true for Fedora, but I'm not sure about Ubuntu.08:38
Name141clumsy_bot: I might swap ubuntu for mint.. but they probably end up being close to the same.08:38
clumsy_botName141, I only use the fglrx drivers on Debian stable for my laptop because it's got an AMD Trinity platform.08:39
clumsy_botName141, Yea. I tend to like to stay close to mainstream releases like08:39
clumsy_botName141, Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora etc.08:39
clumsy_botName141, Distros like Mint tend to branch out too much and too far from the original vein of development.08:40
Name141after Fedora 16, I started having major issues and swapped to CentOS before I swapped back to be able to run Spotify without hassle.08:40
clumsy_botName141, If you're wondering whether the DE would improve performance, Phoronix doesn't seem to suggest that be the case.08:40
cmishraclumsy_bot: which de?08:41
Name141DE?08:41
clumsy_botName141, Even this local guy PenguinRecording (I'm Malaysian) ran a test for L4D2 and found not much differences between DEs08:41
cmishradesktop environment08:41
Name141clumsy_bot: I was more talking about AMD/ATi drivers vs free ones08:41
clumsy_botName141, General consensus is that if performance is satisfactory, stick with the free ones.08:42
clumsy_botName141, Fglrx drivers come up with more problems than benefits.08:42
clumsy_botcmishra, He did a comparison between GNOME and Xfce IIRC08:42
Name141clumsy_bot: OK. I might try a few just to keep it around as a backup gaming device.08:42
Name141Probably wont be worth more than Source agmes08:42
Name141games08:42
clumsy_botcmishra, If you're interested, here's the comparison in performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqMr_JQono08:43
kristenbbcan someone please help me regarding my swap question?08:44
clumsy_botName141, Source games should be fine. I'm really hoping AMD just drops fglrx and focus on helping the free drivers. It would alleviate the problems with support and coding costs since they only need focus on one instead of two.08:44
Name141clumsy_bot: Maybe SteamOS will take off......like half life 3...08:44
Name141And help get gaming on linux08:44
clumsy_botName141, I've heard that SteamOS may not be as big of a benefit to Linux gaming as we once thought.08:44
clumsy_botName141, Seems like most manufacturers will end up just making drivers specifically for SteamOS and ignoring the rest.08:45
clumsy_botName141, I'm not too familiar with the discussion about that. r/linux_gaming seems to be having quite some discussion about it though.08:45
clumsy_botkristenbb, Two installation on diff hard drives and one swap partition on one drive? Is that it?08:46
kristenbbclumsy_bot: no it's all on the same disk08:46
clumsy_botkristenbb, I suppose you'd have to specify on both installations to use that particular swap partition.08:46
kristenbbclumsy_bot: on one it's set up correctly, on the other it's not. so how to do that ?08:47
clumsy_botkristenbb, I'm not too sure about that. Let me Google it up and see if I can find anything for you.08:47
codehackerm08:48
cmishrai guess if you try setting up for the other it will overwrite the first installations setup for swap08:48
kristenbbcmishra: do you mean that it's not possible to have two ubuntus using the same swap partition ? or that it's possible, but not advised?08:49
clumsy_botkristenbb, A few of my searches turned up08:49
cmishrai guess its not possible.. i dont know.. i used to quadboot.. but ubuntu couldnt use the swap once it was used for bio-linux08:50
clumsy_botkristenbb, It seems that it's alright to have shared swap partitions because they'd flush it out after each shutdown, but problems may come in if there's hibernation involved.08:50
kristenbbclumsy_bot: why would hibernation cause problems?08:51
clumsy_botkristenbb, Hibernation involves placing what was in RAM into the swap file, basically storing to disk.08:51
clumsy_botkristenbb, If you boot up and GRUB pops up and you select the wrong installation, the boot-up will crash.08:51
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kristenbbclumsy_bot: so you mean hibernate and then halt and boot, as opposed to hibernate and just resume from hibernate ?08:53
kristenbbclumsy_bot: i'm a bit confused as to how you can boot up after an hibernation08:53
clumsy_botkristenbb, I'm not too sure how it works, I'm merely giving you the info I've sort of picked up from some preliminary searching on Google.08:53
kristenbbclumsy_bot: but as a general rule, is it common to boot up after an hibernation ?08:54
clumsy_botkristenbb, Yes that's how most distros would be configured.08:54
clumsy_botkristenbb, The main side effect is that data could be lost if somehow you forget and bootup the other installation instead of the one that was hibernated.08:55
bekkskristenbb: thats how hibernation works.08:55
kristenbbbekks: then i think i'm confusing hibernation with something else. how is it called when you close the laptop screen and the computer goes in a deep sleep ?08:56
bekkskristenbb: standby?08:56
clumsy_botkristenbb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3369/what-is-the-difference-between-hibernate-and-suspend08:57
kristenbbbekks: no idea, i'm just asking.  but when i close the laptop screen, the computer almost shuts down, using almost no energy at all, and then i can wake him up by pressing the power button, which makes it go back to the state it was08:57
clumsy_botkristenbb, They list out the differences between all the different power states.08:57
bekkskristenbb: Thats called "standby".08:58
clumsy_botI suggest perhaps checking out the link I sent.08:58
clumsy_botCould help clarify a few confusions.08:58
Name141I wonder if I should install the 64 bit version on the 2GB DDR2 system?08:59
Name141I guess it wont hurt08:59
kristenbbi see, thanks. so as it turns out, i'm not using hibernate really often, so that won't be a problem for me. so going back to the main question, how can I set my two ubuntus to be using the same swap partition08:59
clumsy_botName141, If your processor supports it, why not?08:59
Name141clumsy_bot: 64bit linux isn't like 64 bit Windows ?08:59
Name141Using all it can ?09:00
clumsy_botkristenbb, That, my friend, is something that I cannot help you with. Sorry :/09:00
Name141The machine ran Windows 7 64 bit like junk, 32 bit ran fine09:00
clumsy_botName141, I think even for x64 Windows, you can install it even with less than 4GB of RAM09:00
kristenbbclumsy_bot: ok no problem, maybe someone else can ? (bekks ?)09:00
clumsy_botName141, It's just that x64 is more efficient with 4GB or more.09:00
Name141Oh well, Installing 64 bit09:00
clumsy_botName141, You are using something lightweight yes? Shouldn't make much difference.09:01
Blendahi all, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, should i do something particular with my sound drivers or other as i'm doing music? I have sound glitches in Bitwig, asked on their chan, but no answers. I use the internal soundcard, not the best but works fluently in Win. I hate rebooting in Win lol09:01
clumsy_botBlenda, http://ubuntustudio.org/09:01
clumsy_botBlenda, There's a version of Ubuntu specifically tailored for audio production etc.09:02
clumsy_botBlenda, Any art type production basically.09:02
ChaosBringerhi all, i'm having this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121588 but on ubuntu 14.04 LTS09:02
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1121588 in xorg-x11 "mouse pointer flickering on first 2 monitors in 2 gpu and 3+ monitor setup" [Unspecified,New]09:02
Blendahmmm, the pb is i can't go into a new install for now, i've splitted my only actual Hd, and no more space09:03
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Blendaclumsy_bot09:03
clumsy_botBlenda, Okay, I see. Have you tried perhaps asking on the Ubuntu forums?09:04
tortibhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8195268/09:04
clumsy_botBlenda, Sound glitches would have to be under the domain of PulseAudio and ALSA since those two are the main things handling audio.09:04
Blendano... hmm i like to ask here09:04
BlendaYes it's Alsa09:04
Blendaclumsy_bot: let say i want to check if my drivers are the newest, how to do ?09:05
clumsy_botBlenda, Really? I thought Ubuntu ran it's sound through ALSA and then PulseAudio.09:05
Blendai mean in Bitwig09:06
clumsy_botBlenda, Check for the latest version of your sound drivers or Bitwig?09:06
Blendayep plz09:06
Henk_Does anybody have a good tutorial on installing ubuntu next to windows 8 in a dual boot setup? Last time I tried windows 8 and ubuntu both didn't boot09:06
clumsy_botBlenda, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade09:06
Blendatrying09:06
clumsy_botBlenda, That should refresh the cache list and check for any updates for all your software.09:07
Blendaclumsy_bot, i've typed that in one line, is it the way? with the &&?09:08
clumsy_botBlenda, Yep.09:08
Blendaok thx09:08
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bekkskristenbb: Can you please repeat your problem?09:09
Blendai already updated it daily, but it's been one month i didn't, so i doubt this is the pb, but you're right, this is the firs tthing to check09:09
Blendalumsy_bot09:09
Blendaarf09:09
clumsy_botBlenda, Yep.09:11
clumsy_botBlenda, I'm checking out the forums for Bitwig. The client seems to be quite recent for Linux. Is that correct?09:11
Blendaclumsy_bot client?09:12
clumsy_botBlenda, Bitwig is quite a recent development in Linux right?09:12
Blendayep09:12
clumsy_botBlenda, A lot of forum posts saying it's buggy as hell.09:12
Blendahaaaa, i should go check myself09:13
Blendaclumsy_bot in fact, as i knew the difference between Ubuntu and Studio, i thought i just had to enhance some sound driver first before all09:14
clumsy_botBlenda, "i thought i just had to enhance some sound driver first before all" What do you mean by that?09:14
Blendatweak a little to have better sound perf09:14
Blendalike i did with nvdia drivers09:15
clumsy_botBlenda, Well I suppose you'd have to read the documentation to figure that out...09:15
popeyBlenda: you using jack?09:16
clumsy_botBlenda, On second thought, maybe you should try using PulseAudio in Bitwig09:16
Blendano Jack, no Pulse audio (or i don't know)09:17
Blendai will google about them09:17
popeybitwig recommends using jack09:17
popeyI have a friend who does a bit of audio work, and always uses jack09:17
Blendathx for the directions, i'm going to dig that09:17
clumsy_botpopey, Blenda I'll let you two sort it out. I'm not much of an audio guy. Hope I was of some help Blenda.09:17
Blendaanswered!09:18
BlendaThanks :)09:18
clumsy_botBlenda, Glad to help :D09:18
hanshenrik"grub failed to install on root device, and that is all i will tell you. i will not even give you a hint as to why.", than you very much ubuntu installer piece of shit09:18
Blendaclumsy_bot see ya09:18
popeyhanshenrik: here for help or just to rant?09:18
hanshenrikpopey, if my computer fail this reboot, ill need help09:18
clumsy_botBlenda, See ya.09:18
hanshenrikprobably09:18
hanshenrikwas running a normal apt-get upgrade09:19
hanshenrikand i guess there was a update to grub09:19
popeyhanshenrik: what version of ubuntu?09:19
hanshenrik140409:19
clumsy_bothanshenrik, You could try Grub-rescue09:19
popeyhanshenrik: do you have a separate boot partition?09:20
popeyhanshenrik: if so, is it full?09:20
clumsy_bothanshenrik, Sorry, it's Boot-repair.09:20
hanshenrikno, just 1 partition, and no, its not full09:20
popey(this can happen if you use full disk encryption and/or lvm)09:20
hanshenrikhuh, booted without problems09:20
popeyhanshenrik: i would recommend "apt-get dist-upgrade" over "apt-get upgrade"09:20
clumsy_botpopey, Isn't dist-upgrade for moving between releases?09:20
hanshenrikpopey, i don't want dist-upgrade, i want to stay on 140409:21
popeyno09:21
hanshenrikyes it is09:21
popeyno, it is not09:21
hanshenriklast i checked, clumsy_bot is right, though i havent checked since like 12.0409:21
bekkshanshenrik: dist-upgrade does not change anything about being on 1404. It doesnt update your release.09:21
popeyI am staggered that in 2014 people still don't know the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade ☹09:21
popey(this was not a dig at you) :D09:21
popeyhanshenrik: dist-upgrade will only upgrade to the next release if you edited your sources.list first09:22
hanshenrikwhat does dist-upgrade do?09:22
popeyupgrade will upgrade packages you already have installed09:22
popeydist-upgrade will upgrade them, and also, if necessary, pull in new packages required by those updates09:22
bekkshanshenrik: it updates all distribution packages - all packages you've installed to the latest version of the release you have installed.09:22
popeyupgrade will not do that09:22
hanshenrikso, if i have say, 1204, apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade", will NOT take it to next release? :o09:22
hanshenrikor, a newer release?09:23
bekkshanshenrik: No, it will not.09:23
popeycorrect09:23
cfhowletthanshenrik, correctomundo!09:23
ChaosBringerhi all, i'm having this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121588 but on ubuntu 14.04 LTS09:23
clumsy_botHere's a post on the differences between the two. http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade09:23
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1121588 in xorg-x11 "mouse pointer flickering on first 2 monitors in 2 gpu and 3+ monitor setup" [Unspecified,New]09:23
popeyI wrote a rant about this 4 years ago! http://popey.com/blog/2010/01/11/feedback-for-going-linux-podcast/09:23
ChaosBringeranyone has idea on how to fix? I'm using gnome-shell instead of KDE09:23
cfhowlettpopey, don't be.  I happily ran "update" for years thinking that I was keeping on top of good system management practices.  Imagine my face when I actually read the man page last year ...09:24
popeyheh09:24
clumsy_botWhat about aptitude then?09:25
clumsy_botI'd have to perform a full-upgrade under aptitude yes?09:25
cfhowlettclumsy_bot, no.  apt will do it09:25
cfhowlettclumsy_bot, sudo do-release-upgrade09:25
clumsy_botcfhowlett, Okay... Off to the documentation for me.09:26
alsheft516hi everyboooooody09:27
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ahadCan a battery problem be associated with installing Ubuntu?09:29
ahadanyone?09:29
popeywhat kind of battery problem?09:29
ikoniasorry what ?09:29
ikoniado you mean a problem installing ubuntu ?09:29
ahadyes. can it be?09:29
ikoniaubuntu will not "change" your battery, it can use the power system differently09:29
cfhowlettahad, don't see how, although ubuntu does recommend AC power during install.   but so long as power continues through the install, not really an issue.09:30
ahadas in the battery bar is stuck on 46% and its only operatable using the power cable09:30
ikoniaubuntu won't stop your machine charging09:30
clumsy_botahad, Most probably a power management bug.09:30
ikoniathats not true09:31
ahadso any possible suggestions?09:31
ikoniait could be a dead battery, no longer accepting charge09:31
popeymy battery won't charge beyond about 30%09:31
popeythats because the battery is broken09:31
ikoniapopey: yes, this sounds more realistic09:31
Nero_I have a D845GVSR Intel Motherboard. 1 GB RAm, P4 processor 2.2 GHz. Can I install ubuntu 14.04 on such configuration?09:31
Nero_Hey ikonia !09:32
ikoniaNero_: it's the bottom end of the spec, but sure09:32
popeyNero_: yes, but it might prefer more ram. or you might want a leaner desktop09:32
clumsy_botNero_, I don't see why not. It might be a little too heavy though. Try Xubuntu or Lubuntu.09:32
ahadguys it was working just fine yesterday. and yesterday only i installed Ubuntu09:32
popeyahad: what make/model of laptop?09:32
ahadHp pavilion G609:33
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Nero_and one more thing. I'm currently on WinXP. the 720p movies stutter on VLC player. Would Ubuntu be able to fix this glitch?09:33
ikoniaahad: batterys can die, a reboot/power surge (such as the end of an install) can be enough to finish a dying battery09:33
cfhowlettNero_, it would probably use less memory so ... possible09:33
popeyNero_: it might be able to frameskip to compensate09:33
ikoniaNero_: if it's a resource issue, no09:33
ikoniaNero_: if it's a bug with the software, possibly09:33
popeyNero_: but sounds like a low end machine, so you may need to set your expectationa accordingly ☻09:33
Nero_I can alternatively install an older version of Ubuntu. say 12.04.09:34
ahadikonia: thanks for your help :)09:34
ikoniaNero_: still the bottom end of the spec09:34
popeyNero_: maybe re-encode your videos to a lower resolution ☻09:34
Nero_So, I have no other go but to pick Lubuntu or Xubuntu? :(09:35
popeyno, there are many desktops09:35
cfhowlettNero_, those are not BAD choices ...09:35
popeythose are just two well supported lightweight ones09:35
clumsy_botahad, PuppyLinux?09:35
cfhowlettNero_, transcoding is quite easy with avconv09:35
ikoniapuppylinux wil not fix anything09:35
popeyNero_: seems like you want software to fix a hardware problem (lack of power)09:35
Nero_If it isn't that pain, would you please recommend some?09:36
alsheft516how can i install flash player in xubuntu09:36
clumsy_botikonia, It's certainly the lightest option if he wanted a really light desktop.09:36
ikoniaclumsy_bot: no, sorry09:36
ikoniathat won't fix anything09:36
cfhowlett!flash | alsheft51609:36
ubottualsheft516: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash09:36
popeyclumsy_bot: the issue he's mentioned is about video playback, not desktop weight09:36
popeyNero_: video playback will be the same on any linux distro really09:36
clumsy_botMy mistake then.09:36
alsheft516sorry i mean flash player09:36
clumsy_botalsheft516, A dedicated player for Flash files?09:37
Nero_Ok. here's the thing. I see my computer frequently getting affected by some f**** viruses off late. And with such an old motherboard I have, I thought why not switch to ubuntu which is sleek and secure.09:38
ikoniaNero_: tone down the language - there is no need for it09:38
ikoniaNero_: it's only as secure as you make it09:38
ikoniaNero_: swapping to linux is not a magic fix - you need to change your approach to using a computer09:38
clumsy_botNero_, wattOS could be a good alternative to Lubuntu and Xubuntu09:38
ikoniawattsOS would be a bad choice09:38
cfhowlettNero_, you have old hardware.  lubuntu is optimized for old hardware.  xubuntu is also quite good.  download.  test.  choose.09:39
ikoniaagain changing distros is not an issue09:39
Nero_the second thing is the video issue on Win XP. The moment i play a 720p or a 1080p, the screen goes blank and I will have to manually restart to again work on my system.09:39
clumsy_botIt seems like I can't really ascertain what he really wants...09:39
cfhowlettNero_, something else you can EASILY test ...09:39
popeyNero_: you could boot off a live cd/usb and install vlc then try and play a 720p video off your hard disk to test it.09:39
popeyNero_: that would let you know whether ubuntu would work at that or not09:40
Nero_popey. that's a good idea ! thanks !09:40
popeyNero_: you could also try a few desktops that way, grab an ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu iso and compare them09:40
popeyNero_: just note that on the live cd the "universe" pocket is disabled by default, so you'd need to 1) boot from live cd/usb, 2) edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add in universe, 3) sudo apt-get update, 4) sudo apt-get install vlc, then 5) navigate to your local hard disk in file manager and play video in vlc09:41
popeyNero_: might be a bit slow going with 1GB RAM and everything on a CD/USB though!09:41
Nero_ikonia Basically, I want my curent system config to perform upto its mark using a lightweight OS. Win XP or Win7 is pretty heavy on such config. Moreover Ubuntu is awesome.09:42
ikoniaNero_: you'll not really get anything better against your hardware09:43
ikoniaeg: a windows 7 install is a reaonable mirror in resources of a modern linux distro09:43
ikoniaNero_: there are other lighterweight ones as popey has suggested but if you don't have the resource ot play a 720p video on windows - you won't on ubuntu09:44
ikonia(or any linux distro)09:44
ikonia(bottom line)09:44
Nero_ikonia. true.09:44
Nero_popey Thanks  a lot for the timely help!09:45
popeynp09:45
Nero_ikonia Thank you ! :)09:45
Nero_ah! one more query. How do I get a secure connection on freenode IRC?09:50
ikoniathe guys in #freenode can help/explain that to you09:50
HaPutI upgraded to 14.04  when i restarted the system get stuck at the ubuntu screen with dots lighting forever09:50
ahadcan you guys tell me a channel for ubuntu beginners?09:52
ikoniaahad: here is just fine09:52
cfhowlett!manual | ahad,09:52
ubottuahad,: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/09:52
ikoniaahad: all levels welcome09:52
cfhowlettahad, you might also read some ubuntu magazine:  www.fullcirclemagazine.org09:52
ahadhaha, thanks alot guys :)09:52
jordanstjacquesare there any channels that discuss Ubuntu Server specifically?09:53
ikoniajordanstjacques: #ubuntu-server09:53
ahadthanks for the resources, i really could use them09:53
ikoniaahad: https://help.ubuntu.com09:53
ikoniaahad: pretty much walks you through any of the steps a new user would need09:53
ahadikonia: thanks alot09:53
HaPutI upgraded to 14.04  when i restarted the system get stuck at the ubuntu screen with dots lighting forever09:53
jordanstjacquesthanks ikonia09:55
littlebithello people, I have been trying to install xubuntu amd64 onto my lenovo x201i. Booting from the usb stick was no problem at all. Neither did I run into any problem during the installation process. But when I reboot my newly installed OS, I land directly into a kernel panic.09:56
littlebitcan someone help09:56
cfhowlettlittlebit, this is the lenovo carbo?09:57
cfhowlett*carbon*09:58
ikonialittlebit: try to get some key words from the kernel panic, there is normally a summary line before all the bumf eg: "unable to find disk UUSD-o44985739853-9483094-4098534509:58
littlebitcfhowlett: no it isn't09:58
menaceHi, i ssh (with -X) from Machine A into Machine B. On Machine B there's a video with sound. on A i type into my ssh session vlc file.mpeg. now i get the video on machine A, but the sound on machine B. how do i reroute the sound so that the sound is outputted on Machine A?09:58
littlebitikonia: the funny thing is that everything works find when I install xubuntu i38609:58
ikoniamenace: sounds is not a network protocol09:59
cfhowlettlittlebit, umm... problem solved then?  right?09:59
ikoniamenace: you're forwarding X11 - not sound09:59
vol4ko_y_zi am wondering if i go with ubuntu, it can be slow? Unitly looks too full with features so...09:59
ikonialittlebit: that's interesting,09:59
ikoniavol4ko_y_z: really depends on your hardware09:59
littlebitcfhowlett: well I have an i5 cpu and using a 32 bit os09:59
cfhowlettvol4ko_y_z, try lubuntu or xubuntu09:59
menaceikonia: i know that. but how could i solve that problem? any idea?09:59
littlebitI cant go above 4GB ram09:59
kristenbbbekks: you still there ?10:00
ikoniamenace: menace to be honest, I wouldn't approach it as you're doing10:00
ikoniamenace: I'd run the video player locally, with the file remote10:00
menacewhy?10:00
kristenbbi have two ubuntus 14.04 on the same computer, one with swap, the other without. is it possible to set the swap of the second one to the same partition as the first, and if so, how ?10:00
ikoniakristenbb: installs can share swap10:00
littlebitcfhowlett: well I have an i5 cpu and using a 32 bit os10:01
ikoniakristenbb: just add the swap partition to the fstab10:01
kristenbbikonia: how?10:01
HaPutGraphical display stopped working after upgrade to 14.04.10:01
ikoniakristenbb: on the ubuntu with swap look at /etc/fstab - use that as a template for the swap line in /etc/fstab on the ubuntu machine without swap10:01
littlebitcfhowlett: and I cant go above 4GB ram10:02
ikonialittlebit: how much ram do you actually have ?10:02
littlebitikonia: 1x 4GB10:02
littlebitikonia: and 1 slot is unused10:02
ikonialittlebit: ok, so you're not actually held back at this time while the problem is worked through10:02
littlebitikonia: well... kinda10:03
ikonialittlebit: in what way ?10:03
littlebitikonia: I'm held back on ram that is all10:04
ikoniayou've only got 4gb of ram, so you're not held back10:04
ikoniathis gives time to work through the problem10:04
kristenbbikonia: it's the same line, but it works on one, not the other10:05
ikoniakristenbb: what's the error ?10:05
kristenbbikonia: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 010:05
ikoniaaaah crypt10:06
ikoniain that case "no"10:06
ikoniayou've encypted it10:06
kristenbbikonia: there is no 'error', it's just that "free" shows no swap10:06
kristenbbikonia: how do you mean ?10:06
littlebitikonia: true, since this is the first time i ran into a kernel panic, what information is important to look at?10:06
ikoniakristenbb: you've encypted your swap partition so the other OS can't see it10:07
ikonialittlebit: first thing is to get any of the human reable information, there is normally a very basic error summary before all the memory dump information10:07
kristenbbikonia: why ? is swap not flushed in between boots ?10:07
ikoniakristenbb: it's ENRCYPTED10:08
ikoniaENCRYPTED10:08
m3n3chm0hello, i'm getting this error since 2 days ago on xubuntu 14.04 >> lightdm-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_focus10:08
kristenbbikonia: but why couldn't this partition be used with another encryption key for the swap of the other os ?10:08
ikoniakristenbb: becayse it's encypted, so the other OS doesn't know about it - the point of encyption is to not allow it to be accessed10:09
kristenbbikonia: i don't want to access the info on it, i just want to use the space.10:10
Nero_m3n3chm0 do you get a blank screen after the error?10:10
ikoniaright - using the space is "accessing it"10:10
ikoniakristenbb: you've encypted the disk to stop other systems accessing it10:10
kristenbbikonia: i've not encrypted the disk, just the home partition - but apparently the installer did the rest10:10
m3n3chm0Nero_ no, just after login i receive that error and appears the bug window "aport.." to send a notification crash.10:10
m3n3chm0but i continue without problems just on login10:11
Nero_m3n3chm0 have you updated any kernel recently?10:12
kristenbbikonia: can a partition not be used as a blank bunch of blocks, and use it as an empty partition, whether the data on it is encrypted or not ?10:12
ikoniakristenbb: it's encrypted - you've locked it10:12
ikoniakristenbb: nothing else matters10:12
m3n3chm0Nero_  mmm i fon't know, now i'm runnging 3n3chm0@m3n3chm0-laptop:~$ uname -r10:12
m3n3chm03.13.0-35-generic10:12
Name141Hm I can't seem to get the new machine online10:14
kristenbbikonia: i'm sorry but i don't understand what you mean by that. from what i understand, data encryption is at a higher degree than just block read/write. I can always access the blocks, I just won't be able to understand them because the data on it is encrypted. Am I wrong ?10:14
Name141after install10:14
ikoniakristenbb: you can't read/write to the disk as it's encyrypted, there is no other way to explain it10:15
gorgath!chrome10:15
gorgathhow do I install chrome10:15
Name141!chromium10:16
* Name141 shrugs10:16
ubottuYou can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa10:16
MonkeyDustName141  it's called chromium-browser10:17
okkoI need to install an unicorn-update for my trusty-tahr. How should I do it?10:18
gorgathokko, install it through the ubuntu software centre10:19
gorgath!update > okko10:19
ubottuokko, please see my private message10:19
Name141Maybe 2 NICs is creating an issue for me ? In ifconfig, it has the right information like I'm actually connected to the internet.10:19
ikoniaName141: what's the actual problem10:20
Name141ikonia: I can't seem to get back on the internet after restarting.10:20
Name141Or to the modem page even10:21
Nero_m3n3chm0 try logging using "other" and input your credentials.10:21
ikoniaName141: what is the error you get ?10:21
m3n3chm0Nero_ ok, i'll try10:21
m3n3chm0using other ? user ?10:22
Name141ikonia: None from anything other than browsers10:22
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Nero_m3n3chm0 see if this helps. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/80989010:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 809890 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lightdm-example-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in __strcmp_ssse3()" [Medium,Fix released]10:22
ikoniaName141: you obviously know how to use ifconfig, what is the IP address your network card is given10:22
Name141ikonia: eth0 has the correct information, eth1 is nothing.10:23
ikoniaName141: that's not what I asked10:23
ikoniaName141: what is the IP address your network card has been given10:23
Name141ikonia: inet addr (something that my ISP gives me) , Bcast (a number slightly different from ISP) , mask 255.255.240.010:23
Name141(slightly different from inet addr)10:24
ikoniaName141: ok, I'm not going to be able to help if you're not giving me information10:24
Name141ikonia: inet addr: 99.197.115.221 bcast:99.197.127.22510:24
Nero_Name141 you will have to seperately configure the ethernet cards.10:25
Name141Nero_: can I just disable one?10:25
ikoniaName141: so it's giving you a public IP - not a private one10:25
ikoniaName141: ignore what Name141 is saying10:25
Name141ikonia: pretty much, there is only a switch10:25
Name141ikonia: modem is supposed to do DHCP10:25
ikoniaName141: ok, perfect10:25
ikoniaName141: so if you do "netstat -rn" what is the default gateway10:25
Nero_Name141 there sure is an IP address conflict. ikonia asks for the Ip addresses to see if there is any conflict.10:26
ikoniano I did not ask to see if there is a conflict10:26
ikoniathere is NOT an ip conflict10:26
Name14199.197.112.110:26
ikoniathere is nothing to suggest anything to do with an IP conflict10:26
Name1410.0.0.010:26
ikoniaName141: thats plausable, as a basic test can you ping 99.197.112.110:27
Name141Yes10:27
ikoniaName141: cool10:27
ikoniaso can you "ping 8.8.8.8"10:27
Name141Hm.  It seems stuff just started connecting like nothing was wrong10:28
Name141Maybe I should get a real router.10:28
ikoniaName141: looks like you're on the internet10:28
Name141One ViaSat friendly10:28
Name141ikonia: Yeah pages are coming up fine now....10:28
Name141ikonia: I been told on the wildblue forums I should really get a router so that the modem will give us all one IP# instead of different ones.10:29
ikoniaName141: give "us" ?10:29
ikoniamultiple people cannot share 1 ip10:30
Name141ikonia: Each computer (which is each user)10:30
ikoniaName141: that's nothing to do with your modem - that's your ISP's dhcp allocation10:30
Name141ikonia: Also not being able to share files/printer is annoying10:30
Nero_ikonia what are you into? as in computer sciences.10:30
ikoniaName141: you can setup a router to give multiple non-public IP addresses and then masqurade out of your one public IP10:30
Name141ikonia: That's what I meant.  192.168.0.whatevers10:31
ikoniaName141: your ISP should be able to explain what it will allow/not allow10:31
ikoniaName141: perfect,10:31
Name141ikonia: I just been putting it off since the BEFSR41 wont work as a true router on Hughesnet, Wildblue, or Exede. (Sat)10:31
Name141It'll work for a few mins, then disconnect.  Have to set it back up as a switch with computers in the switch ports and internet too.10:32
Name141That and the ones listed are like $60+10:32
Name141People got working on the forums10:33
ikoniawell, that's a bit outside the scope of this channel10:33
Name141Yeah10:33
Nero_ikonia how can I Pm you?10:33
ikoniaNero_: why do you need to pm me ?10:33
Nero_you seem approachable!10:34
Name141ikonia: upon restarting I get "requesting an ethernet network address for Wired Connection 2"10:34
ikoniaNero_: if you need ubuntu help, just ask the channel10:34
Name141Then saying it's disconnected.  I been having to reset the router (Power off/up)10:34
ikoniaName141: thats fine, dhcp will broadcast requests on all network cards10:34
ikoniaName141: it just won't get a response10:34
Name141ikonia: It's all disconnected on restart now.10:35
Name141I'm starting to think something is wrong with the switch even.10:35
ikoniaName141: it sounds like your modem is only activating on traffic10:35
ikoniaName141: ping 8.8.8.8 and see if it comes to life10:35
Name141ikonia: Network is unreachable10:36
ikoniaName141: ping the gateway again10:36
ahadikonia: what does ping 8.8.8.8 do?10:36
Nero_ikonia You shall be remembered for generations to come for the support you give to users all day ! I salute you Matthew!10:36
ikoniaNero_: err ok10:36
ikoniaahad: just hits a google server that has icmp on, so it's just a random "ok" box on the internet to do a test with10:36
Name14199.197.112.1 ?10:36
ikoniaName141: yes10:36
ikoniaahad: any known working box will do10:37
Nero_ikonia I wonder how it would be to be something good at something like you !10:37
Name141ikonia: Network is unreachable10:37
ikoniaName141: interesting10:37
ikoniaName141: do you have an IP address on eth0 again ?10:37
Name141ikonia: no.  It's been doing the same thing on windows machines (as seen above).10:37
Name141Have to power down/up just on restart of a machine.10:37
Name141(The switch)10:37
Name141I'm not sure of software update on modem conflicting, or switch gone nuts ?10:38
ikoniaName141: sonds like you need to talk to your ISP10:38
AlexPortableSo10:38
AlexPortableHow do I disable the 'switch user' on the lockscreen?10:38
Name141ikonia: They'll just tell me to call Linksys or Trednet10:38
Name141depending on which I'm using as the switch10:39
ikoniaName141: they can see what/when your modem sends auth requests/dhcpd requests, that will be useful to know whats failing and why10:39
Nero_AlexPortable what OS are you on?10:39
ikoniaName141: but this doesn't sound like ubuntu is an issue - more your network hardware10:39
Name141ikonia: Now when I clicked network to retry it, it came back.... interesting.  Everything's connecting again.  Seems something has gone wrong somewhere with hardware.10:40
AlexPortableNero_: i think this is ubuntu channel10:40
Name141Yes indeed.10:40
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AlexPortable14.0410:40
kristenbbikonia: so if i cant use one partition, then how can i set up swap on the ubuntu without it?10:40
ikoniakristenbb: you need to setup another non-encypted swap partition for your other install10:41
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kristenbbi would like it encrypted, just like the other, is that not possible ?10:41
kristenbbikonia: ^10:42
ikoniakristenbb: sure, setup a different encypted partition for your other install10:42
kristenbbikonia: ok. how can I do that ?10:42
ikoniakristenbb: first make the partition, then use the encyption method that you like to use10:42
ikoniaeg: luks10:42
netmoleGood day , i had strange issues with new install of ubuntu 14.04 used mini iso cd my network card AR8161 is offline and as well all usb devices keyboard  they worked with install cd10:43
Nero_AlexPortable open gconf-editor. Navigate through the desktop, gnome and then lockdown.10:43
kristenbbikonia: but it's not a full disk encryption, it's just home encryption.10:43
ikoniakristenbb: thats fine10:43
Nero_AlexPortable and you have an option to disable the user switching.10:43
ikonianetmole: the mini-iso doesn't have all the packages10:43
ikonianetmole: I suggest using a standard install10:43
AlexPortablewell won't this disable user switching at all?10:44
netmolewell it is posible to install them in rescue console or you consider to burn full image and reinstall ?10:44
Benyaminhello everyone. i need help, i just wana figured why why ubuntu and xubuntu install ext3 file system by default not ext4. can anyone explain it? and why when using e4defrag using sudo, there's still some part on the HDD cant be defrag? thanks for answering, anyone...10:45
kristenbbikonia: so I have created an empty space by shrinking an existing partition with gparted, then what ?10:45
ikoniakristenbb: make a new partition and encypt it using whatever tool you like10:46
kristenbbikonia: how ?10:46
ikonianetmole: I'd suggest a clean full install10:46
ikonianetmole: unless you have a reason to use the mini.iso10:46
elhadjslt10:46
netmoleikonia only one reason was i did not had  dvd medium and i am replaced disk so that is reason why i am used  mini iso10:47
mouhamadou-moustmomo10:47
elhadjiguitikgkgjjjjjjjkj10:47
ikonianetmole: do a full install then10:47
kristenbbikonia: how can I make the unallocated space be used as an encrypted swap for the current system ?10:48
ikoniakristenbb: you need to format it for swap/encypt it using the methond you like to use10:49
ikoniakristenbb: I've said this 4 - 5 times now10:49
kristenbbikonia: yes but i'm sorry i don't know how to do that, can you be more precise please ?10:49
ikoniakristenbb: it sounds from what you've said so far like you have no need for encypted swap10:49
ikoniakristenbb: I'd suggest not using it as you're making your system more complex10:49
kristenbbikonia: i just want to end up with the same configuration as the other system that I have. How can I make it use the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 ?10:50
Nero_AlexPortable that would help.10:51
ikoniakristenbb: I don't think you have need for it so I'm going to back away from it10:51
Benyaminhello everyone. i need help, i just wana figured why why ubuntu and xubuntu install ext3 file system by default not ext4. can anyone explain it? and why when using e4defrag using sudo, there's still some part on the HDD cant be defrag?10:51
AlexPortableNero_: no i mean, i want to keep user switching10:51
AlexPortablebut just not on the lockscreen10:51
ikoniaBenyamin: what version of xubuntu ?10:51
ikoniaBenyamin: and what version of ubuntu10:51
Benyaminikonia: Both of them 14.0410:52
netmoleikonia: one reason  why i am trying to fix it is reason  because my supliers can deliver me dvd medias in monday so i am try to find out how to make it working without full reinstall10:52
ikoniaBenyamin: then it defaults to ext410:52
Benyaminikonia: now i on win7 for while10:52
ikonianetmole: just wait until monday10:52
ikonianetmole: do a proper install10:52
Benyaminikonia: but why on ext2fs it read as ext3?10:53
ikoniaBenyamin: what ?10:53
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AlexPortableWhat do I have to change in gparted to make it boot ubuntu by defualt?10:53
AlexPortableuefi mode10:53
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eeeeAlexPortable: do you get a grub menu?10:54
kristenbbikonia: it is said on the ubuntu.com help page that it is strongly recommended to encrypt the swap, so I would like that please, can you help me to achieve that ?10:55
ikoniakristenbb: no10:55
kristenbbikonia: :10:55
kristenbb!(10:56
ikoniakristenbb: it's recommened if you have a genuine need for it10:56
kristenbb:(10:56
kristenbbi do have the need for it10:56
ikoniaI don't believe you do, I believe you are going to make a problem with your system, so I'm not going to progress this10:56
Benyaminikonia: http://s12.postimg.org/lb0do5awt/Untitled.jpg check this10:56
kristenbbam I not able to say what I need or not ? :(10:56
ikoniaBenyamin: that's windows10:56
Nero_AlexPortable You are looking for this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153930/how-to-permanently-disable-user-switching-in-gnome-310:57
ikoniaBenyamin: that's nothing to do with linux10:57
ikoniaBenyamin: the ext file system driver for windows is poor, do not use it as a judgement for whats going on within your linux system/filesystems10:57
Benyaminikonia: yeah. but why as ext3?10:57
ikoniaBenyamin: it's not10:57
ikoniaBenyamin: ignore it10:57
Benyaminikonia: okay, i just asking bro, don't be angry lol10:57
ikoniaBenyamin: I'm not angry10:57
Benyaminikonia: i confused sometimes so i ask here10:57
ikoniaBenyamin: fine, and I'm explaining to you,10:58
Benyaminikonia: but thanks for answering,10:58
AlexPortableNero_: well that's permanently. i want to allow user switching, just not from the lockscreen10:58
kristenbbikonia: you do look angry, i'm just asking something and you're saying i don't need it, so you won't answer even though you know :(10:58
ikoniakristenbb: ok.10:59
Nero_AlexPortable So, you basically want to change the GRUB boot order?10:59
AlexPortablenot grub11:00
AlexPortableit boots on efi file windows by defualt11:00
AlterIWAlexPortable, download EasyBCD and use it to add Linux to the MBR for Windows11:01
AlexPortablembr is for bios right?11:01
AlterIWAlexPortable, no it's basically the Windows grub11:01
ikoniayes11:01
ikoniayou need efi11:01
ikoniano it's not the windows grub11:02
ikoniambr is nothing to do with windows11:02
Nero_it is not the windows grub at all.11:02
BlendaI want to install JackAudio, search in SC gives many answers, is it "jackd" (version5) ?11:02
eeeeAlexPortable: he means add it to the bootmgr of windows, AlterIW you don't need easyBCD for that,11:02
Nero_AlexPortable you can use a software called easyBCD on windows. or alternatively you can also have ubuntu as the defalut boot OS from the command line interface of ubuntu.11:03
jpickettHi, I've accidently downloaded the amd64+mac iso image, can I install that on a non-mac PC?11:03
AlterIWjpickett, no it only holds mac drivers not windows.11:04
AlterIWHardware related not windows sorry11:04
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Nero_kristenbb ikonia is patiently looking into your queries since long. None is angry here about anything. Please do not jump to conclusions.11:06
AlexPortablehow to do it as default os?11:06
backSlashercurrent pip breaks with latest "requests" package. Should I file a bug on it?11:06
Nero_AlexPortable. have you downloaded the easyBCD on windows?11:06
AlexPortableno11:08
AlexPortablei meant "alternatively you can also have ubuntu as the defalut boot OS from the command line interface of ubuntu."11:08
Nero_AlexPortable do that. It will help.11:08
AlexPortablehow?11:08
bazhangbackSlasher, on debian?11:09
AlexPortablei prefer not to use windows11:09
backSlasherbazhang, actually on ubuntu 14.0411:09
backSlasherbazhang, http://paste.debian.net/118541/11:10
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AlexPortablesome parts of ubuntu interface in system settings are not in my native language. how can i solve this?11:10
Nero_AlexPortable here you go. https://neosmart.net/Download/Register/111:11
eeeeAlexPortable: you don't need easyBCD to modify anything11:12
Nero_AlexPortable. This software must be installed on windows and you can configure what OS you want to primarily boot into.11:12
cfhowletteeee, ^^^ this11:12
cfhowletteeee, agree with eeee that easyBCD should NOT be required and ... by any chance are you using the windows installer / wubi?11:13
BlendaI want to install JackAudio, search in SC gives many answers, is it "jackd" (version5) ?11:13
Nero_AlexPortable. Like I said you can run these commands on the ubuntu terminal if you don't prefer windows to alter your boot priority.11:13
eeeeAlexPortable: http://superuser.com/questions/696838/installed-updated-windows-8-uefi-after-ubuntu-restore-grub11:14
eeeehave a look at solution2 ( use bcdedit in windows )11:15
AlexPortablehow can I put ' on e to make é ?11:16
eeeeunicode 003911:17
geirhadepends on your keyboard layout (language)11:17
eeeesorry 00E911:17
AlexPortablehttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Keyboard_heatmap_for_German_%28QWERTY%29.png11:17
backSlasherSo pip breaks on Ubuntu but not on Debian when python package "requests" is updated to latest. Should I file a bug on it?11:17
AlexPortablegeirha: ^11:18
AlexPortablei set it to us internation with dead keys11:18
eeeeAlexPortable: press ctrl+shift+u, then type 00e9, then press space11:19
geirhaThen someone from the US can probably tell you11:19
AlexPortableeeee: well that's not usable11:19
eeeeactually just e9 works, without 00e911:19
AlexPortablei want to do it like windows11:19
AlexPortablepress ' and press e and then é appears11:19
geirhaWith norwegian keyboard layout, it's RightAlt + key just left of backspace  then hit e11:20
eeeectrl+shift+u, then e911:20
AlexPortable...11:20
AlexPortabledo you really think I can learn my grandma how to do this?11:20
AlexPortablewhile on windows i press ' and then e ?11:20
AlexPortableinstead of ctrlshiftu + e911:20
geirhaAlexPortable: Same in Ubuntu if you use a layout with dead keys11:20
rturHey guys. The package libopenni-sensor-primesense0 from universe is also provided by a third party mirror I use. I want to install the version from universe and thought to use the packagename/archive syntax for it but it's the same for both mirrors. Is there an other way to tell apt to use a package from one mirror and not the other ? In what order does apt source the files from sources.list.d ? Maybe I could11:21
AlexPortablenope11:21
rturjust rename the files so the universe mirror would be sourced first.11:21
AlexPortablegeirha: it shows ' right when i press it11:21
AlexPortablenot waiting for space or something11:21
geirhaAlexPortable: your Mac keyboard didn't have the ' character anywhere though11:21
AlexPortableim not on a mac11:21
AlexPortableit's similar layout as that11:21
AlexPortablecan't find good layout11:21
YamakasYwhere are dependencies of a packages checked before it installs ?11:22
geirhahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_keyboard_layout  this is similar to norwegian layouut. I hit Alt gr + ' (the one next to backspace), then e11:23
geirhaAlexPortable: Alternatively, try #ubuntu-de11:23
backSlasherbazhang, do you knwo if a bug report will be helpful?11:23
AlexPortablehttp://dry.sailingissues.com/keyboard-US-International.png11:23
AlexPortablethis is the right layout11:23
geirhaAlexPortable: So not german ...11:25
AlexPortableno11:26
Nero_ikonia11:26
geirhaAlexPortable: Alt Gr+E ?11:27
AlexPortablewell somehow it changed back to normal now11:27
AlexPortablebut it still allows me to put ' s on the s11:28
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RirishiHey there11:28
AlexPortablehi11:28
RirishiI have a dual monitor setup and I'd like my right monitor to be the primary monitor, while he launcher is on the left one. Is that possible?11:29
AlexPortablesettings > monitors11:30
AlexPortable'show starter on..'11:30
RirishiUsing that option automatically makes the monitor with starter/launcher the primary one...11:31
RirishiAt least in Trusty with Unity11:31
Eliophello, i'm trying to install a plugin for keepass, but it doesnt work11:31
Eliopit says this: To install simply drop the KeeOtp.dll and the OtpSharp.dll in the root of your KeePass directory. The dlls can be obtained either by building the source yourself using msbuild or by downloading the latest zip file on the downloads section of this site.11:31
Eliopthe root of my keepass directory11:32
Eliopis usr/share/keepass?11:32
hualet_deepinEliop: dynamic libs are not called *.dll, perhaps the wrong instruction?11:33
hualet_deepinEliop: sorry, i mean under linux11:34
Eliophttps://bitbucket.org/devinmartin/keeotp/wiki/Home11:34
Eliopive found it here11:34
Eliopoh11:34
Eliopwhat shall i do then? im ost11:35
Elioplost11:35
namenickDoes anybody know is it possible to add a global menu item in Unity Launcher? By 'global menu item' I mean something like 'Unlock from Launcher' and I would like to add something like 'Uninstall this application'.11:37
Nero_Eliop Shoot !11:38
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ikoniaNero_: what ?11:41
Nero_ikonia I thought you went offline!11:43
ikoniawhat do you want ?11:44
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Nero_So, should i go ahead with xubuntu or lubuntu?11:44
ikoniayou can install what you want, why are you asking me ?11:44
Nero_ikonia or the system config I've mentioned will i be missing a lot on Ubuntu if I go ahead with Lubuntu ?11:45
Nero_*for11:46
hualet_deepin_Nero_: if Unity can't make you happy, just do the switch, it's not that hard11:48
ikoniaNero_: it's a totally different desktop experience11:49
Vesiniktere11:50
SirLagzhas anyone had a multiseat setup where whenever the second set logs in, the main seat drops to a flashing cursor and needs a ctrl-alt-f7 to get back into X ?11:50
Nero_ikonia all right. :/11:50
Vesiniktk11:52
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unopasteVesinik you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted11:52
Netham45Is there an ARM bootstrap image?11:56
Netham45Er, a core system image, I should say.11:56
MonkeyDust!arm11:57
ubottuARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.11:57
Unmatthewping11:59
MonkeyDustpong12:00
Nero_Ask !12:01
Nero_Please ask !12:03
Nero_dammit !12:04
Nero_who the fuck did that?12:04
ikoniatone the language down12:05
ikoniaI've already warned you - please stop12:05
Nero_ikonia I'm extremely sorry about it. It was my brother !12:05
ikoniano it wasn't12:05
ikoniajust stop it12:05
compdocheh12:05
Nero_it was !12:05
ikoniaNero_: you've done it twice now, I don't care who it is, stop it12:06
Nero_My sincere apologies !12:06
Cuppa_coffeeit doesnt matter, all those offended type /clear and we should be good to go12:06
bialykothi12:06
Nero_ikonia My vendor (Lenovo) hasn't wriiten software for accessing some features on my laptop using the function keys. How do I get over this impediment?12:08
ikoniaNero_: there are packages for thinkpad and toshiba laptops for hot key configuration12:09
ikoniaNero_: failing that you'd have to manually map them12:09
deepubuntuhow can I turn on automatic updates for any software or browser in ubuntu12:09
Nero_ikonia is there a way i can compile the software myself for ubuntu? if so, how?12:09
ikoniaNero_: you don't need to12:09
ikoniathere are pacakges in the ubuntu repos (universe I think) for hotkeys on thinkpads12:10
Nero_Hello?12:14
anonymous8171225Hi12:14
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kantex-wolfHello12:16
jiaanqwhy can't I see people talking12:20
cfhowlettjiaanq, ask your ubuntu question12:20
cvetanbecause no one is talkind :D12:21
cvetan*talking12:21
mx_cvetan, if nobody has a question - its normal ^^12:22
cvetanjust kiddin12:22
mx_anyone facing issues with qjack and changin settings?12:23
mx_UST 14.04 that is! i had same problem on 13.0412:23
WojoHi, anyone on 12.04 with stable google-chrome misbehaving - constantly freezing upon start, coorupting profile - after latest upgrade from google repo?12:23
cfhowlett!ubuntustudio | mx_, or ask #opensourcemusicians12:24
ubottumx_, or ask #opensourcemusicians: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org12:24
mx_Wojo, had issues on 12.10 with it - still some on 14.04 - use firefox12:24
Wojomx_: not for me, but user wants google-chrome specifically12:24
cvetanwhy don't you use chromium?12:25
mx_Wojo, its coming from the silverlight - flash package - chromium should work but a bit unstable12:25
cvetanhaven't noticed.12:25
mx_cfhowlett, ask?12:26
Wojochromium might do the trick, but additional lib for flash would be necessary12:26
nick9933#horriblesubs@irc.rizon.net12:26
nick9933?12:26
cfhowlettmx_, ask #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians for jack help12:26
nick9933join ?12:26
cvetanchromium is in ubuntu repositories.12:26
qjqqyynick9933: you're on freenode12:26
cvetanit is and open source project, therefore i always use chromium.12:26
nick9933join #horriblesubs@irc.rizon.net12:27
cfhowlett!join12:27
cvetanin ubuntu.12:27
mx_Wojo, it will be inside already12:27
qjqqyynick9933: https://lolicon.eu/stuff/boku%20no%20piko/12:27
qjqqyyoops wrong paste12:27
qjqqyynick9933: https://qchat.rizon.net/12:27
Wojomx_: you mean pepper flash plugin already in the bundle for chromium packet in the repo?12:28
mx_cfhowlett, oh right yeah sorry wrong box12:28
Wojoor is there an additional packet I need to obtain to get it working while getting rid of google-chrome and its repos12:28
cvetani think it is already there.12:28
Wojocool, thanks for the info. I will let the user know.12:29
mx_Wojo, no idea if is salt or pepper dude - it works out of the box i know that much - i dont remember even adding anything for flash to work -12:29
cvetani now there is a ppa for the pepper flash.12:29
cvetanbut i also thing that is for the latest versions.12:30
cvetanjust if you want to update it.12:30
andylandNågon som är bra zfs här?12:30
mx_Wojo, but flash never really worked and never will on linux - im affraid....12:30
Wojomx_: that's another thing :)12:31
mx_Wojo, will still be a bit unstable and laggy and fewer option (eg setting HD or turn it off and so on~)12:31
Wojomx_, cvetan: looks like there is a pepperflashplugin-nonfree on 14.04 and ppa for other releases https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/ubuntu/pepper-flash12:31
Wojothanks for your support12:31
mx_Wojo, no worries - thats why we are here -  we are not all caustic d*** :P12:33
nick9933irc.rizen.net12:35
simonashello12:35
cfhowlettsimonas, greetings.  your ubuntu issue???12:36
simonasnothin, just chilling12:36
simonasi use xubuntu12:37
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melaniebonjour12:54
mx_Mellett68, bonjour -12:56
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_unreal_hum net split party12:57
patateshi,can't display ISO-8859-2 encoded files, ".srt" files, in text editors, any idea how to display them?12:58
loahow i can make something like sticky notes under ubuntu?12:58
loasometimes i need to record little things.12:59
mx_patates, tried a notepad?12:59
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hualet_deepin_loa: tomboy?12:59
loaand don't want to loose them.12:59
mx_loa, in accesories there is a note app12:59
patatesyeah tried geany, scite and some others, mx_12:59
mx_patates, and liboffice? via their word app?13:00
mx_patates, ultimately what are you trying to achieve?13:00
patatesyep, it looks bad with writer too, I want to display them. they look corrupted, but they look fine on windows, mx_13:01
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mx_omg my football socks are stinky as fuck13:01
loahualet_deepin_, wow https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.31-17%3A01%3A24.png13:01
loai am not ready for this.13:01
mx_patates, try paint - or gimp like apps and impliment it then -13:01
loamx_, where i need to search?13:01
loaaccesories?13:02
loawhat is it?13:02
mx_loa, ubuntu logo -> accesories -> notes13:02
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loamx_, you using gnome or what?13:02
mx_loa, no...? ubuntu?? as per channel's name???13:03
loai have search when i click on ubuntu logo13:03
mx_loa, the one top left corner? (or wherever you put it?) - what version of ubuntu you have?13:04
loamx_, 14.0413:04
mx_ohhh i get it - type note in that then loa13:04
loai have russian locale13:04
trijntjemx_: you are not running ubuntu, ubuntu has a search menu when you open the menu13:04
loamx_, i have there only note from wine13:05
loamx_, i typed that already.13:05
trijntjeand there is note app installed by default, only gedit13:05
trijntje!info tomboy13:05
ubottutomboy (source: tomboy): desktop note taking program using Wiki style links. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.15.4-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 962 kB, installed size 8045 kB13:05
loatrijntje, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.31-17%3A01%3A24.png13:05
mx_trijntje, I HAVE 14.04 AND ust - AND BOTH HAVE THAT GRAPHIC CONF - YOU KNOW YOU CAN SET ALL OF THAT UP RIGHT??13:05
hualet_deepinloa: too much dependencies?13:06
loahualet_deepin, mono13:06
mattxtnmx_ you're trying to read subrip .srt files?13:06
hualet_deepinloa: alright, i hate it, either ;)13:06
mx_mattxtn, nope - patates is the man13:07
mattxtnoh, oops13:07
patatesI am trying to read ISO8859-2 srt files13:07
loahualet_deepin, it is not about hate. I think just too heavy for such solution.13:08
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mattxtnpatates: those are subtitles right?13:08
patatesyeah, mattxtn13:08
mx_patates, i just dont get why you would wnat to read them via text and not via the movie directly but whatever flaots your boat dude13:09
hualet_deepinpatates: there's a python lib for reading srt files called python-srt, perhaps that can help you?13:09
mattxtnpatates you may want to check out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/428355/how-to-open-srt-files-in-ubuntu13:09
mattxtni imagine the file would open in gedit, emacs, vi, etc..13:11
louisdkOne that have bugged me a lot is that my DHCP doesn't get refreshed when I connect to a new network on my Ubuntu 14.04 laptop (both wlan and wired). I manually have to run "sudo dhclient" if I want to get updated resolv.conf and be able to resolve domain names.13:12
patatesmx_ I sometimes edit a few chars so I wanna read them with text editors too, hualet_deepin I don't think it will help, mattxtn the prblem is not the srt files, iso ISO8859-x(?) encoded files13:13
_unreal_hello ok I'm trying to remove all of the wl wireless drivers and moduals etc.....13:18
mattxtnpatates: the only thing i can find is that link i already gave you and http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/srt which says any text editor can open it. the encoding iso*** i'm not sure about.13:19
_unreal_http://paste.ubuntu.com/8196929/13:19
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MasterOfDisasterpatates: read them with what? text editor?13:20
_unreal_dmesg |grep wl |pastebinit  gave me the output on that pastebin13:20
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hichamatI'm using ubuntu 14 in VM, I can't type | or ~ in terminal13:20
patatesthanks, I will change my locale to ISO-8859-9 from utf-8 to check if it works, mattxtn, yes text editor, MasterOfDisaster13:20
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MeteHi all, I cannot use my recorder after upgrading 14, is there anybody to help?13:21
mattxtnpatates I was going to mention that but I wasn't sure about changing the locale as I've never done it.13:21
MasterOfDisasterpatates: I wouldn't do that.13:21
MasterOfDisasterpatates: convert the srt file with iconv to unicode13:21
praeconiumTrying to login on 14.04, when I type proper pass, screen blacks and shows login again. I use same pass to login over ssh, normally. And when I type invalid pass it says 'invalid' but no blackscreen etc.. What is going on?13:22
MasterOfDisasterpatates: vi(m) can be forced to a certain charset with :set charset=xxx IIRC13:22
_unreal_can any one help with a broadcom wireless driver issue?13:23
MasterOfDisasterpraeconium: did you mess with PAM?13:23
trijntjepraeconium: the graphical environment is crashing13:23
patatesWhy not? MasterOfDisaster, I did that but I that would bring a work overhead (correct term?). Thanks, I can't use vim yet :|13:23
_unreal_http://paste.ubuntu.com/8196929/13:23
praeconiumOk, I understand MasterOfDisaster and trijntje, I think I did, what can I do to get it back to normal?13:23
_unreal_any one?13:24
MasterOfDisasterpraeconium: check if your WM/DE is erroring out (~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg*.log), if that checks out check /var/log/secure for PAM errors13:25
praeconiumMaster13:25
MasterOfDisasterpatates: I don't get "work overhead", sorry :-)13:25
MasterOfDisasterpatates: ah, nevermind13:26
praeconiumMasterOfDisaster: I have over dozen xorg.conf, could this be an issue?13:26
praeconiumOk, wil check errors ..13:26
MasterOfDisasterpraeconium: if you see a graphical login screen, it's unlikely that your Xorg config is that broken.13:27
praeconiumOk, I see GUI properly. And reading now logs..13:27
_unreal_can any one help me?13:31
mx__unreal_, erm... your issue is broadcaomm haha13:32
_unreal_I'm trying to remove the propritary stuff13:32
_unreal_I posted links above13:32
mx__unreal_, ok so what you are looking at is a perfect example of how broadcaom are d****13:32
_unreal_no argument13:33
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_unreal_its the only wireless card I have currently and its a long range capable which is the only reason I want to use it.13:33
mx__unreal_, i've read the log yes -  what you can try (and is defo not a holy bible that im about to offer you) - is the NDIS wrapper to get the BC 64xx driver to work -13:34
_unreal_gave me a real run for my money yesterday with locking up apt-get with a dpkg issue where it would freeze on a task and never finish. clearly broadcom's crap caused corruption in the files which I had to clear13:34
_unreal_hum13:35
_unreal_I have the bcm4318 rev2 card13:35
mx__unreal_,  with that solution it wont work full capacity -13:35
_unreal_the first thing I need to do is get the WL crap off of the system, and I'm not sure how to do that.13:36
praeconiumMasterOfDisaster: I am looking through log file, I've actually deleted all of them, rebooted, and checked it again. Its over 1000 lines, I have no clue what to look at.13:36
mx__unreal_, should work or one of this list anyways - another option would be to use the originial windows driver (again) but via wine13:36
mx__unreal_, oh - well the same way than any other uninstall13:36
_unreal_as far as I know nothing is installed any more for BCM.    I've done apt-get remove * bcm stuff I believe13:36
_unreal_though i could have missed something....    I'd prob get better results with wine driver13:37
mx__unreal_, well then you did what is needed - then restart and retry with NDIS13:37
_unreal_I'd assume >:)13:37
_unreal_already have rebooted13:37
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mx__unreal_, for wine driver i am not sure 100% it exists (just some vague memory of reading ti somwhere when i faced the same issue) - but i'd assume it takes a bit of ressources thus needing a bigger config (not what im aiming for personnaly )13:39
mx__unreal_, now one thing i did is passing from N to G on the router and card setup and it never failed afterwards tho13:40
_unreal_this card is wifi G only I believe13:41
_unreal_interesting: sudo modprobe wl       hangs13:42
_unreal_well first off have you any ideas how I could remove all of the remaining wl code/files data etc....13:43
MasterOfDisasterpraeconium: try installing openbox or fluxbox and choose this at your graphical login. This should confirm that your regular window manager/desktop environment chokes on something.13:46
famax_unreal_, if uninstall - apt get didnt work - see what libraries it depends on (and onnly this prog has to depend on this librabry in order to dont mess up your system) and see if this is not the problem but id say u on for a lonnnggg time of tweaking to find out what is wrong here -13:46
famax_unreal_, to be honest with you i litteraly gave up and went for a dongle that works - 10e and i was sorted - even if you get it working it wont work at full power therefore the long distance will be at 50% max - there is a tweak to get it working up to 128 max....13:47
_unreal_I believe the issue is wl I had an issue trying to remove drivers before and it hung. I'm not sure what loads WL to begin with.13:48
_unreal_if I knew that I may be able to reinstall and remove again? or just find my self doing a circle :)13:48
_unreal_:) its got an 18" antenna13:49
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_unreal_famax, from what I understand, the WL drivers etc.. are for a different version of card then what I have and thats what is cuasing the majority of my issues. and its making it so I can remove it.13:51
awestrokeapt-get upgrade does not upgrade my linux-image. How can I make it start updating again? I can't install virtualbox because my linux-image is too old for the linux-headers package of the same version to be installable13:51
trijntjeawestroke: what do you mean with linux-image? Can you put the output of apt-get upgrade on pastebin.com?13:53
awestroketrijntje: it just says everything up to date13:53
awestrokeI'm installing linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic manually now13:53
trijntjesounds good, whats the problem?13:53
awestrokeshouldn't it see new linux-image packages as upgrades? even dist-upgrade ignores it13:54
trijntjeawestroke: if everything is up to date there are no updates available13:54
trijntjewhat is the output of lsb_release -a?13:54
awestroketrijntje: but now I have the newest kernel installed, so it could have installed that13:54
awestrokebut now I did that upgrade manually13:54
awestroketrusty13:55
trijntjeawestroke: what update did you do manually?13:56
melvincvHow many years is 14.04 supported for?13:56
awestroketrijntje: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic"13:56
awestrokeI was on 3.813:56
awestrokespecifically, "3.8.0-19-generic"13:56
salarhow can i recover my xchat login password which i forgot?13:57
famax_unreal_, sorry got sidetracked by a live sampling machine here -  ok so the drivers you installed form a previous hardware are messing right?13:57
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trijntjeawestroke: what is the output of lsb_release -a? and can you put your/etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?13:58
itaihi, just lost my ethernet on ubuntu, wifi still works , any ideas how to get it back?13:58
melvincvHow many years is ubuntu 14.04 Desktop supported for?13:58
trijntjemelvincv: 5 years13:59
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melvincvGreat.. Can I see my previous ubuntu notifications (the ones that have faded away) ?14:02
trijntjemelvincv: I dont think so14:02
rysiekplohai14:03
rysiekplso, I am trying to remount a vfat volume to a different umask/uid14:03
melvincvThere was an issue with the 'Online Accounts' feature yesterday. Let me reboot and see if the same occurs today after a system update...14:04
rysiekplwhen I try remounting it, options are not being heeded14:04
rysiekplhttp://wklej.org/id/1453890/14:04
rysiekplwhen I umount and then mount it, it works14:04
AAM_hey guys can you tell me if there is a specific channel present for asking programming related questions?14:09
olivierrrr#learnprograming14:10
AAM_olivierrrr: thanks14:10
Seven_Six_TwoUpdate last night left me unable to start any desktop. After login, I get black screen with mouse cursor. Unity, xfce, and kde14:11
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Seven_Six_TwoCorrection. Xfce, unity, gnomeshell14:12
salarhi. i have a problem with my virtual machine...i used these commands to install kvm(   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197258/    ) then when i run virtual machine manager and press create new virtual machine there is a warning saying : KVM is not available. this may mean the KVM package is not installed or the KVM kernel modules are not loaded. yout virtual machines may perform poorly.I have ubuntu 12.04 and Sony Vaio E Series VPCEA35FG, core i3-370M 2.4GHz  4GB of14:13
salar ram14:13
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cipherboyHey, is anyone here familiar with recovering squashfs files? I consistently get the error (read_uids_guids: failed to read id index table) when trying to extract a squashfs archive of mine. I have tried it with the default version (4.2) and compiling 4.1 and 4.0 from source and have gotten the same error. Interesting to note that the -s flag to list attributes looks the same as a valid squashfs that I can extract. Any help would be m14:20
Sven_vBis there a command i can run to make the current Unity session (later ones optional) switch to low graphics mode, or at least forgo most fancy animations, or a kernel boot option or config file setting to do so?14:20
Seven_Six_Twosalar, sudo apt-cache search kvm14:21
Seven_Six_Twosalar, look for other KVM packages that may have been missed14:21
thuducxin chao`14:22
thuduchello14:22
salarat Seven_Six_Two ok ill give it a try thanks14:22
thuduccan you help me?14:22
melvincvUbuntu 14.04 keeps asking me to authorize it to access my Google account. I did that many times. Why? http://i58.tinypic.com/245ad0i.jpg14:22
eeeethuduc: whats up?14:22
thuducI'm vietnamese14:22
Basketballis anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab14:22
Seven_Six_TwoSven_VB, unity is a compiz plugin, and requires 3d rendering. Try installing other desktop like xfce maybe14:23
thuducI can't speak english14:23
jayviuhhhhh idk if I'm even in the right place but can someone point me in some sort of direction please? I have never used a linux OS in my life nor have I used irc ever. Tired of Windows 8 I spent the last couple hours getting Ubuntu 14.04.1 to work properly and now I have no idea what to do and I feel damn lost14:23
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thuducubuntu studio14:23
thuduc???14:23
thuducjack?14:23
thuducsetup?14:24
salarSeven_Six_Two there are like 100 of packages when i search them and i dont know which to install14:24
Basketballeeee, are you14:24
Seven_Six_TwoJayvi you are in the right place. Just ask a specific question for help, and be patient.14:24
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, i'm looking for a solution for the install stage before xfce is being installed ;)14:24
eeeeBasketball: am i what?14:24
Basketballeeee,  good with rtcwake and crontab14:24
Seven_Six_TwoSven I don't know what you mean14:25
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, on my netbook, unity seems to enter 2D mode on its own, i'd like to reproduce that on other machines14:25
eeeeBasketball: i know abit about crontab14:25
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eeee!vietnam | thuduc14:26
ubottuthuduc: Để được trợ giúp về Ubuntu bằng ngôn ngữ Việt, xin vui lòng /join #ubuntu-vn. Rất vui lòng được giúp đỡ14:26
jayviSweet thank you I appreciate it. I guess more specifically what is some decent beginner software I should download? I feel like I own on Windows yet feel so noob here14:26
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, i'm optimizing my auto-install procedure, and it would be nice if i could have it snappier even before xfce is being installed.14:26
Seven_Six_TwoSven you'd have to disable your video module, but I don't know of a way to do that on the fly. Try the alternate install disc instead of the normal one.14:27
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, that would be against the purpose of the project. still, thanks for the video module hint.14:28
Seven_Six_TwoJayvi there is no beginner software, but you should have some good defaults already installed. Unlike win, Linux comes wit manybthings already. Open Ubuntu software centre to find more.14:29
reversibleanCan anyone tell me the latest default kernel version of Ubuntu trusty?14:29
eeee3.13.0-35-generic14:29
jayviokay thank you.14:30
Basketballeeee,  check pm14:30
Seven_Six_TwoSven, is this for quick install on a bunch of machines?14:30
eeeeBasketball: ok14:31
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, yes, at least the base install is rather quick. after first reboot, it enters customization stage, where my puppet scripts run less quickly. ;)14:32
jayviHow do I get the toolbar thing to not stick to the left of my window? I am a freak when it comes to organization and it kills me to just have that thing blinking me in the face the entire time, Id rather have it at the bottom and hide it that way is that possible?14:32
eeeejayvi: try xeyes in the terminal14:33
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, i could install just xfce and then reboot again, but adding yet another reboot doesn't seem elegant, as unity does have a 2D mode14:33
eeeejayvi: disclaimer, i'm not responsible for any seizure you might have14:33
bongo12345how can i get modprob to run on boot ? i replaced my driver but no every boot i need to open terminal and modprob and ifup14:33
jayviummm okay14:33
jayviwtf lol14:34
eeeehehe :P14:34
eeeeare you on unity?14:34
jayviwhats unity14:34
Sven_vBbongo12345, check the wiki for rc.local14:34
eeeethe desktop environment14:35
cipherboy!unity | jayvi14:35
ubottujayvi: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity14:35
jayviliterally my first time EVER using a linux os so gotta dumb things down a whoooooole lot14:35
jayvii believe so though14:35
Basketballeeee,  can you gp to that website14:35
escapereality!nounity14:35
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 and up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:35
eeeeBasketball: ok14:35
Sven_vBbongo12345, rc.local isn't the best way to load modules, but the quickest that i currently know of14:35
reversibleaneeee: but I only have 3.13.0-24, 3.13.0-30, 3.13.0-34, 3.13.0-24 Why?14:36
_unreal_I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT!!!!!!!!! I figured out the wifi issue14:36
eeeereversiblean: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:36
jayviI downloaded 14.04.1 so I think thats Unity14:36
cipherboyjayvi: its is typically referred to as the desktop environment with a more "mac" feel. It has a side launcher bar and application-specific menues are removed from the applications themselves and put up top.14:36
famax_unreal_,  !share14:36
eeeereversiblean:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:36
jayviyup14:36
jayviexactly that14:36
_unreal_http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197449/14:36
eeeejayvi: ok, the launcher can autohide, if you want it at the bottom, you'll have to install a package14:37
bongo12345Sven_vB,  so not to /etc/modules?14:37
_unreal_ok so I got the correct modules loaded before but the problem was the WL. and I couldnt remove them14:37
famax_unreal_, answer threads on the forum as well please so many people have this issue broadcam being widely used by dell and so on14:37
_unreal_I had to manually remove the drivers and moduals one at a time using DKMS AND DPKG14:37
reversibleaneeee:  I'm not sure which kernel to log in before I could dist-upgrade14:37
Sven_vBbongo12345, if that works, it's a better approach.14:37
_unreal_once I did that all I did was reboot and all is happy14:37
eeeereversiblean: 0-3414:37
cipherboyjayvi: So if you want to play around with that for a bit, you can find most things via the search bar (accessible by clicking the Ubuntu logo in the top left corner or by hitting the windows key). Firefox is the default browser, chrome can be installed if you prefer that though of course.14:38
bongo12345Sven_vB, i actually have no idea what all this means14:38
_unreal_http://paste.ubuntu.com/8197462/14:38
jayviyea i found the autohide but it seems pretty unresponsive but from the bottom of the page I think I could manage. Where would I look to find such a package? or use it after that -_- i feel like14:38
_unreal_so I did a: sudo dkms - bcmwl14:38
_unreal_so I did a: sudo dkms -r bcmwl14:38
reversibleaneeee: you mean 3.13.0-34 ?14:39
eeeereversiblean: yeah14:39
_unreal_and : sudo dpkg deinstall bcmwl-kernel-source14:39
eeee!cairo | jayvi14:39
eeee!find cairo14:39
ubottuFound: libcairo-gobject2, libcairo-script-interpreter2, libcairo2, libcairo2-dbg, libcairo2-dev, libcairo2-doc, libcairomm-1.0-1, libcairomm-1.0-dev, libcairomm-1.0-doc, libmono-cairo2.0-cil (and 50 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cairo&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all14:39
_unreal_so I did a: sudo dkms -r bcmwl/modual#14:39
reversibleaneeee: I also have an upstream kernel installed. would that be a problem?14:39
bongo12345Sven_vB, i see on /etc/modules that there are just names like lp or rtc ,so if i was to add my module i just write  "r8169">14:39
bongo12345?14:39
eeee!info cairo-dock | jayvi14:40
ubottujayvi: cairo-dock (source: cairo-dock): Light and eye-candy dock to launch your programs (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.99.beta1.2.really.3.3.2-0ubuntu2.1 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 46 kB14:40
eeeejayvi: ^^^^14:40
Sven_vBbongo12345, that could work14:40
jayvicool thank you14:40
melvincvGoogle chrome install fails, via the software center, using the .deb file. I had to also do 'sudo apt-get -f install'14:40
reversibleaneeee: *for upgrade, i mean14:40
bongo12345Sven_vB, i'll try , thanks14:40
_unreal_is there a log of console commands????14:41
_unreal_I rebooted so I dont have the exact info14:41
eeee_unreal_: ~/.bash_history14:42
eeee_unreal_: you can use the up and down arrows in the shell, or ctrl+r for a reverse search14:42
_unreal_I rebooted14:42
eeee_unreal_: doesn't matter14:42
_unreal_bluetower@bluetower:~$ sudo ~/.bash_history14:43
_unreal_sudo: /home/bluetower/.bash_history: command not found14:43
_unreal_I dont have a bash history anywhere?14:44
jayviugh I just dont get any of this... how do you even download something? like starting ubuntu i had to type some stuff into the terminal and it did some weird things so my best guess is that i have to do something with that but i just seriously have never been so confused in my life when it comes to computers and that is so uncommon14:44
eeee_unreal_: less ~/.bash_history14:44
eeee_unreal_: type that14:44
eeee_unreal_: you don't need sudo for it, and you have to specify some program to view the file with14:45
_unreal_there it it14:45
cipherboyjayvi: Software is installed through multiple routes. For most users what works best is the Ubuntu Software Center (type it into the Unity menu up top). There you can search for and install every piece of software that Ubuntu has. However, yes, you can also install packages via the terminal, but give the software center a try first.14:46
jayviok thank you14:46
sapikyou'll get the hang of it14:47
cipherboyIn the mean time, I assume nobdoy here knows anything about recovering squashfs?14:51
sapiknever heard of squash14:52
famax_unreal_, please answer the forums then and/or make a thread about it - it will be really appreciated by the community :)14:53
Seven_Six_TwoIts the fs on the lived. I can't help though. Sry14:53
Seven_Six_TwoLivecd14:53
cipherboysapik: like Seven_Six_Two said, its a compressed, read-only filesystem that is used on just about every LiveCD to store the root fs.14:54
_unreal_I'm working on it14:54
sapikneed some real expert on that.14:54
Basketballis anyone here good with rtcwake and crontab14:55
Basketballhey sergey  are you good with rtcwake14:56
cipherboyHere's a good one for somebody: hexdump and hexedit/ghex are reporting two different set of hex values for a file.14:59
sapiki thought hex is the same, for the same file.15:01
_unreal_ok I've put my info together.15:01
_unreal_!share15:01
cipherboysapik: https://i.imgur.com/DiAnlPP.png15:02
_unreal_famax where is the forum your refering to15:02
cipherboysapik: it looks like one of the two is switching the first two grouping of four digits. 7368 vs 6873. Pattern continues all the way down...15:03
UNIm95Hi 2 all. Can someone help me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/515864/how-to-reinitialize-processor-for-sys-and-disable-integrated-graphics15:04
UNIm95How can I reset processor information?15:04
sapikyeah. weird..15:05
sapikhow about with different file15:07
Sven_vBSeven_Six_Two, seems like you were right after all, it's been a while since i had the unity 2d experience and just read it's now removed. i'll see what my netbook will choose instead.15:08
sapikbless shows different hex too. i guess hexdump is just backward15:08
memimeI have lost the menu in my Ubuntu installation. All I have is "Run" and "Logout" Can someone talk me through?15:10
BuJitsuBrownAre there any know problems with updating "linux kernel and headers" recently eg. past week? My software updater informs me that a complete update is not possible. I then go to settings to un-check to backports and reload  same error. I have tried to check which ones can not be up dated and i get this ... http://imgur.com/ciz03u615:11
sapikthe -C switch fix it. it's in the man15:12
_unreal_how would I add info to the ubuntu broadcom info base about how I fixed the driver issue15:12
jacob___hi15:13
jacob___I use wine and wine creates these files  in the subdirectory desktop15:13
jacob___I created successfull a desktop *.desktop file etc15:13
jacob___if i double clikc it all works15:13
ubuntu-studioi have install win7 on my laptop but i can not run my ubuntu now. what can i do now15:14
jacob___If i associate a file *.pdf with SumatraPDF.exe (open source pdf reader) the Sumatra loads but gives an error15:14
bazhangchecked the appdb yet jacob___15:15
jacob___"there is no windows program associated with this type of file"15:15
jacob___bazhang: i got it working but somehow it refuses to work now(15:15
jacob___appdb,.., ok do you have a link to what this appdb is?15:15
bazhangjacob___, #winehq for individual app support after checking the appdb15:16
bazhang!appdb15:16
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help15:16
_unreal_famax, you live?15:16
bazhangjacob___, ^15:16
Basketballbazhang,  are you good with rtcwake15:16
bazhangnever heard of it Basketball15:16
BuJitsuBrown Are there any know problems with updating "linux kernel and headers" recently eg. past week? My software updater informs me that a complete update is not possible. I then go to settings to un-check to backports and reload  same error. I have tried to check which ones can not be up dated and i get this ... http://imgur.com/ciz03u615:17
Basketballbazhang,  how do i switch hardware clock to utc time15:17
bazhangBuJitsuBrown, tried a dist-upgrade yet15:17
jacob___bazhang, i think this is an ubuntu thing for unity15:17
jacob___wine works fine and the application also15:17
jacob___but the file is in linux and how cani make a "double click" start the wine app15:18
BuJitsuBrown@<bazhang> i presently have 14. lts15:18
bazhangjacob___, #winehq is the place where you'll get the best answers on that15:18
bazhang!dist-upgrade | BuJitsuBrown15:18
ubottuBuJitsuBrown: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.15:18
bazhangBuJitsuBrown, it's not a version upgrade15:19
bazhangsudo apt-get dist-upgrade BuJitsuBrown15:19
jacob___bazhang,  just a general question, how does unity associate a file with an application, this is a non-wine question15:19
BuJitsuBrownokay thank you. I have not tried dist- upgrade ,never have acutly, but i wiil give it a go thank you15:20
bazhangjacob___, I'm on gnome-shell, no idea sorry15:20
eeeejacob___: /usr/share/applications15:20
jacob___gnome-shell?, thats something different i guess15:20
eeeejacob___: take a look at the .desktop files15:20
bazhang!notunity | jacob___15:21
ubottujacob___: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.15:21
jacob___i have examined the desktop files15:21
jacob___what is better gnome shell or unity?\15:21
ubuntuhello15:22
_unreal_where would I go to submit my info about how to fix the broadcom drivers seeing as how I just solved it.15:23
bazhangjacob___, personal choice, try them15:23
jacob___ok15:24
bazhang_unreal_, askubuntu.com15:24
jacob___the "Icon" in the *desktop file, doesnt always point to an ICOn file how is that possible?15:24
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oznthi guys, how  you create the debian tar.xz file needed for building a package?15:35
tmlphi,is there a way to fix the problem with ethernet port with atheros ar816115:35
trackerHello .. My name is Daniel, I'm from Brazil. Sorry bother your channel but no channel in Ubuntu-br has tips on Ubuntu for Smartphones. Since I lost mine and I will have to buy a new one, would like to know some basic things before leaving compulsively buying ... 1 - What is the name of the Linux distributions for Smartphone and where can I download? 2 - What devices are compatible with these versions? Anyone out there have a clue? Thank you ..15:35
bazhang!touch | tracker15:36
ubottutracker: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch15:36
jayvi_okay seriously i dont think im gonna last much longer without throwing this operating system out the window and going back to the horrid windows 8. I can't figure out how to do ANYTHING like absolutely nothing! All I've heard and read about was that Ubuntu and Linux was so good and so much better than windows but I spent 3 hours getting it to work in the first place and now spent another 3 hours and all I've accomplished is syncing my firefox ac15:36
jayvi_count. this is getting ridiculous please can someone point me in the direction of a manual or something because Ive about had it15:36
cipherboyI figured it out finally! Apparently the file got truncated... >_<15:37
bazhang!manual | jayvi_15:37
ubottujayvi_: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/15:37
bazhang!rute | and this too jayvi_15:37
ubottuand this too jayvi_: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com15:37
sapikhow cipherboy15:37
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bodhi_zazenjayne, it takes a bit of time to learn a new os is all. you may also like a different interface, such as kubuntu15:38
bazhangfor some tougher issues there is askubuntu.com jayvi_15:38
tmlphi,is there a fix for ethernet w/ atheros AR816115:38
bazhangbodhi_zazen, jayvi15:38
jayvi_thank you15:38
tmlpit always deconnect every 5mn15:38
jayvi_how do I get that launcher bar or whatever it is to go to the bottom of my screen instead of locked to the side15:39
sapikyou mean like the one in mac os15:40
cipherboysapik: we have had such terrible luck with our NAS, shouldn't have ever thought to store a necessary backup there. Guessing in one of its failures the end of the file got overwritten. Missing the last 14MB of it. >_<15:40
CodeGosuis there a way i can setup text rendering gamma, i like to modify lut of monitor changing gamma to my preference, however this leads to washed out fonts, is there a way i can force font rendering to use other gamma to force it to be very black?15:40
bazhangjayvi_, the unity dock is fixed15:40
jayvi_wow15:41
bazhangjayvi_, try gnome-shell if you dont like unity15:41
jayvi_how do i do that?15:41
jayvi_cuz maybe thats just whats wrong lol15:41
CodeGosubasicaly when font rendering is to my preference, everything else is very dark. when everything looks well, font is washed out15:41
bazhangsudo apt-get install gnome-shell jayvi_15:41
bazhangjayvi_, log out once installed, then login window choose gnome-shell15:42
cipherboyjayvi_: you can also do it via the ubuntu software center searching for GNOME Shell15:42
jayvi_ill try the software center15:42
oznthi guys, I am trying to package mongodb, and I get this error: dpkg-genchanges: error: file ../mongodb_2.6.4-1.debian.tar.xz has size 43228 instead of expected 4329215:42
oznt, can someone tell me how to resolve this?15:42
jayvi_thank you15:42
sapikglad you figure that out cipherboy. actually i had no idea what you talking about. man i'm noob15:42
bazhang!find mongo15:43
ubottuFound: python-pymongo, python-pymongo-doc, python-pymongo-ext, python3-pymongo, python3-pymongo-ext, falconpl-mongodb, juju-mongodb, libmongo-client-dev, libmongo-client-doc, libmongo-client0 (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mongo&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all15:43
BuJitsuBrownConsult /var/lib/dkms/rtbth/3.9.3/build/make.log <<<<<<how do i copy and past this in to terminal to make it open?15:44
bazhangoznt, why compile it, it's in the repos15:44
ozntbazhang, an old version15:44
bazhang!info mongodb | oznt15:44
ubottuoznt: mongodb (source: mongodb): object/document-oriented database (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.9-1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 42 kB (Only available for amd64; i386; kfreebsd-amd64; kfreebsd-i386; armhf; ppc64el; arm64)15:44
cipherboyBuJitsuBrown: if its a long file, use `less /var/lib/dkms/rtbth/3.9.3/build/make.log`15:44
bazhangoznt, why do you need the very newest of new15:44
BuJitsuBrownok thanks i give it a go15:45
cipherboyBuJitsuBrown: Else `cat /path/to/file` would work if you don't care about how many lines it is. `tail /path/to/file` shows only the end... head shows the top, etc.15:45
ozntbazhang, because my boss said. My problem is the above, can you help solving the probelm with dpkg?15:45
BuJitsuBrown@<cipherboy> firts one gve me this15:46
BuJitsuBrown...15:46
ozntwhere is dpkg reading the file size ? is it calculated?15:46
BuJitsuBrownDKMS: command not found15:46
cipherboyBuJitsuBrown: if you want to share the entire file with us, pastebinit is a useful command.15:47
BuJitsuBrown@<cipherboy> i cant even open it15:48
BuJitsuBrownhere  is wht i get... 'cat /var/lib/dkms/rtbth/3.9.3/build/make.log'15:49
BuJitsuBrownbash: cat /var/lib/dkms/rtbth/3.9.3/build/make.log: No such file or directory15:49
BuJitsuBrownjustin@justin-HP-Pavilion-Sleekbook-15:~$15:49
BuJitsuBrownforget it ill track tru gui15:49
cipherboyBuJitsuBrown: Can't open it why? Permissions issue or...?15:49
cipherboyOh um. hm. Likely a path issue.15:50
BuJitsuBrownnope path was good. but know i know what this is about a problem i have ignored for a good while it has to do with me not being able to get my bluetooth working15:52
BuJitsuBrownthank you tho15:53
rustyraptorwhat are the advantages of using sudo and disabling su?15:53
jayvi_well idk what just happened but upon installing what I hope was the right file in the software center my screen just lost all its color and faded and it looks like that is supposed to be frozen or something? this is getting ridiculous15:54
rustyraptordoesn't it rely on the sudo user having a strong password?15:54
cipherboyjayvi_: In case you don't like gnome shell either... Check out Cinnamon (http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/).  Also gray == thinking, so give it a minute to finish thinking15:54
cipherboyrustyraptor: su and sudo are two entirely different constructs. su means "switch user", but if a username is not specified it defaults to root. then you have to enter the password of the user you want to become (su root (enter root password) su rustyraptor as a non-rustryraptor user, you have to enter rustyraptor's password).15:56
jayvi_I read the "more info" stuff and all three options said the same thing but two had ratings equal to the other so I picked one of them15:56
BuJitsuBrown@<bazhang> or any one i was doing a dist-upgrade everything was going good up untill  this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8198062/15:56
JoshunHi15:56
jayvi_Im thinking I needed to choose "Gnome Shell" not the extensions preferences15:56
rustyraptoroh I see then15:56
JoshunThe Unity Autohide doesn't work properly for me when using the mtrack input driver. Is there a workaround for this?15:56
cipherboyrustyraptor: However, sudo is more like "super user do" where if you are allowed to use sudo, you can enter _your_ password and you can run things as root/admin.15:57
_unreal_there http://askubuntu.com/questions/518422/broadcom-wifi-card-driver-install-solved-how-to-get-it-working15:58
rustyraptorso it is more secure at least you are not running so much as root. It doesn't make it more secure technically but if you are unable to just run everything from a root terminal and just run sudo with specific tasks then that makes it more secure such that it forces you to practice good security15:58
cipherboyrustyraptor: Oh and lastly, "sudo su" enables you to use sudo to run the su command as root -- in effect, you use your password to log in as root. (since the result of a sudo command gets run as root, and logging in as the same user doesn't require a password, then sudo su gives you root access without having to change the root password).15:58
rustyraptoryeah I understand now. Well I knew this but isn't it better if you aren't running every single program you use as root?15:59
rustyraptorlike doesn't this force most users to just use sudo [program] instead of running it all from root?16:00
jayvi_okay so now that i have gnome installed what do I do16:00
BuJitsuBrownhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8198062/--<<<problem with the dist-upgrade any ideas?16:00
cipherboyjayvi_: log out and log back in, clicking the ubuntu icon next to your username and selecting gnome shell instead of Ubuntu default interface or whatever unity is called lol.16:01
Basketballanyone here good with rtcwake16:01
rustyraptore.g on my debian server I usually have my root terminal open not the normal user and I run it all from there which is a security issue. If I enable sudo and disable root I will run most things from a limited user16:01
jayvi_ugh thanks for all your help. I like to think of myself as pretty competent when it comes to computers and this is just stressing me out lol16:01
Unknown0BCSuddenly after a reboot my Ubuntu laptop, has only low graphics, nou sound and the network interfaces will not come up. Nothing on the system changed that I know of.16:01
cipherboyrustyraptor: Generally speaking, changing the root password is frowned upon, especially if you change it to a weak password. And no, it isn't if you run every single program as root. What if say, firefox was running as root and you were served one of the rare few  viruses. Then that virus would be allowed to run as root. Generally, avoid using sudo/root unless you really need to (e.g., updates, installing software, etc).16:02
sapiklinux is a whole new world jayvi16:02
Unknown0BCI am due to upgrade anywy. So i'm wondering if the install disk will be smart enough to see that the system needs an upgrade...16:02
Unknown0BC( before I start downloading )16:02
cipherboyjayvi: Not a problem. Just take your time and realize its just like learning anything else. When you first start out, you aren't all that good, but with time and practice you get better.16:02
Unknown0BCI would not mind fixing the probelm though and upgrade when i'm at a faster internet connection.16:03
BuJitsuBrown@<jayvi_> dont give up16:03
claytonboa tarde a todos16:03
ozntat what stage of the package build is the <software>.debian.tar.xz is being built? how can I create this file ?16:03
claytonpoderiam me ajudar16:03
Basketballanyone here good with rtcwake16:04
claytonsou novo no ubuntu16:04
DJones!pt | clayton16:04
ubottuclayton: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:04
rustyraptorcipherboy that is what I mean. If you are running the system from a normal user you usually won't run firefox with sudo you will just run it using the firefox command directly and it will have little access to your system. but if you are running it from root you are running firefox from root and it will have access to the whole system.16:04
cipherboyrustyraptor: yes, separation of privledges is very good. Some people would even go so far as creating a second user account without sudo privileges and use that for most everything and only log in as an admin user when needed.16:04
claytoninfelizmente não estou conseguindo me conectar16:04
claytonvia wi fi16:04
rustyraptoryeah that's what I meant ok16:04
cipherboyrustyraptor: yeah exactly. Sorry, it sounded like you were advocating for running everything as root, my bad!16:04
claytono wi-fi aparece, mas ao tentar se conectar16:05
claytonele não autentica16:05
sapikwhat16:05
AhadI recently switched from windows to Ubuntu, can anyone tell me that does Ubuntu consumes the same battery when it is in suspended mode as Windows did?16:06
cipherboyAhad--sorry not played much with suspend mode, but I would imagine it wouldn't consume that much power....16:07
sapikpretty much the same i guess16:07
ubuntu-studioi need thunderbird support16:07
Ahadcipherboy: i am referring to the sleep mode on the laptop :/16:07
sapiksleep mode on windows. suspend on linux right16:08
claytoncomunidade portuguesa16:08
DJones!pt | clayton16:08
Ahadsapik: yes16:08
jayvioh wow this is much better16:08
sapiki think its pretty much the same Ahad.16:09
DJones!br | clayton16:09
ubottuclayton: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:09
jayvistill have some things I need to figure out but just wow16:09
claytonthank you16:09
claytonvery much16:09
jayviokay one HUGE thing on my list of annoyances: how do you put applications onto the desktop? or is that kind of stuff locked too?16:10
Ahadsapik: ok, so now the thing is i am encountering heating problems on my laptop, how to avoid it?16:10
bazhangjayvi, right click drag16:12
jayvithat doesnt work16:13
jayviwhen i right click it just instantly opens up the context menu16:13
sapikAhad if its heating problem than maybe installing tlp might work. I don't really know much about this.16:14
cipherboyLeft click drag?16:14
cipherboyjayvi: ^16:14
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jayviunfortunately no that doesnt workeither...16:15
claytonalguem fala portugues aqui16:15
jayviwhen i drag any icon anywhere it instantly flings back to its original place16:16
jayviexcept for files on my desktop that I put there myself.16:16
a1ghello people16:18
gooberfoobI have a question about reverse vnc using Vinagre16:19
gooberfoobI am trying to help a friend that has a media server, when he remotes into his media server he gets a blank screen16:19
a1gi have a question about libxml2_2.9.016:20
a1gon precise16:20
a1ggetting this error16:20
rypervenchegooberfoob: You might try a different VNC client.16:20
a1gImportError: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2: version `LIBXML2_2.9.0' not found16:20
BeckettHello ?16:20
claytonalguem fala portugues aqui?16:21
DJones!pt | clayton16:21
ubottuclayton: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:21
hamidrezahello !16:21
DJonesclayton: This channel is English language only16:22
BeckettI have no idea what you are saying, sorry. I only speak english.16:22
a1gif i look at raring-updates, where the right version does exist, i can't download it because error 40416:22
a1ghttp://packages.ubuntu.com/raring-updates/libxml216:22
BeckettWhat is the best way to begin Ubuntu development ?16:22
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a1gany possible way we can get this package back on the ubuntu updates server?16:23
DJones!contribute | Beckett The bot's link should give you a few suggestions on how to help contribute,16:23
ubottuBeckett The bot's link should give you a few suggestions on how to help contribute,: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu16:23
BeckettAbout to study Software development in Uni. I have above beginner knowledge in Java :)16:23
BeckettOh okay. Thanks!16:23
hamidrezawhy my second kernel in ubuntustudio(generic kernel) start without mouse and net and start like recovery mode?16:23
a1gif anyone can help me, would be greatly appreciated, i'm sure other people may have this problem also16:24
hamidrezacan anyone help me, please?16:25
a1g404 not found http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.9.0+dfsg1.orig.tar.gz16:25
a1gWTH!!!!16:25
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Basketballanyone here good with rtcwake16:27
hamidrezacan anyone help me, please please please ...?16:28
sapiknever use rtcwake. its a wake up program it seems16:29
sapiki had never use it i mean16:29
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Basketballsapik,  i want my computer to suspend for a certain period of time16:29
Basketballand then wake16:29
rypervenchea1g: Why can't you use versino 2.9.1?16:29
sapikthere's auto mode, local mode, and utc mode.16:30
sapiklemme try Basketball16:31
Basketballsapik,  http://collabedit.com/akt6e16:31
sapikso Basketball i manage to get it to wakeup at 10 seconds time16:34
sapikusing command sudo rtcwake -s 10 -m mem16:34
sapikyou need to be admin user16:34
a1grypervenche: because the python lxml requires 2.9.016:36
Istalantarhey there. I used this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_Share - guide to make internet available for my raspberry pi, it worked fine for some time, but now it suddenly doesn't, and i didn't change anything (at least not purposely). Ethernet connection is working, i checked that, it must be something wrong with the tunneling i guess ... does anyone know how to fix this?16:37
a1gI'm just gonna have to try a newer ubuntu version in my vagrant now16:38
ItsAWrapAnybody who can help me setting up fstab?16:38
deafpoolHey, everyone. The other night I was installing kdevelop via terminal - sudo apt-get install kdevelop. Later on I was looking through my history, and one line before I noticed the following: 'kdevelop! -s {d07736be-55c1-4791-8ab5-a3b6f0280603}' which I didn't input myself. Does anyone know why it appeared and what it means?16:40
Bashing-omItSANgo__: Maybe, What is the issue with fstab ?16:40
a1gi still don't understand why if a package has page on the ubuntu repo archives that it doesn't exist, i still should be able to download it16:41
rypervenchea1g: Personally, I would fix the problem (lxml) instead of the symptom (libxml2). But you can check your cache to see if you still have the 2.9.0 package, then install it and then mask it.16:41
a1gok, i will try that16:41
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a1gthx rypervenche, i appreciate it16:42
spark_any one know where bluetooth releated message are at ? because x freeze everytime i pair back my keyboard and mouse16:42
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Bashing-omItSANgo__: , soory bout the ups ping, itsawrap left I guess in a hurry and I not paying attention to the 'tab' .16:42
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MonkeyDustdeafpool  kdevelop is cor c development, so better ask in a c channel, i guess16:44
MonkeyDustfor*16:44
switchtehbeatwhat happens if I dual boot win7 and ubuntu but install ubuntu first?16:45
kklimondaanyone familiar with intel rapid start? would it be possible to use the same partition for IRST and swap?16:45
deafpoolThanks, MonkeyDust. WIll do.16:45
bekkskklimonda: Thats a Windows based technology, so the answer is a "no".16:45
sapikthe bootloader will change16:45
switchtehbeatsapik, ?16:46
sapiki guess16:46
sapiki mean no grub216:46
bekkssapik: The bootloader will not change. It is a windows based software solution.16:46
switchtehbeatno one got an answer for me?16:46
Basketballsapik, come here http://collabedit.com/akt6e16:47
Basketballbekks,  your good with rtcwake rigjht16:47
switchtehbeatno one got an answer for me?16:47
sapikyou mean it's not linux way?16:47
waykool99this new laptop has WD 500 GB drive. why on earth would it use GPT EFI partition instead of MBR?16:47
bekksBasketball: No.16:47
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switchtehbeatso that's a no then.16:48
bekksBasketball: Whats your actuall issue besides the assumption it has to do with rtcwake?16:48
bekkswaykool99: Because GPT is the state of the art nowadays.16:48
MonkeyDustswitchtehbeat  then windows will ruin your grub16:48
kklimondabekks: not really, it does work with linux16:48
bekkssapik: Intel Rapid start is a Windows way.16:48
Basketballbekks go to the website and see16:48
bekksBasketball: Go to which website?16:48
Basketballbekks, come here http://collabedit.com/akt6e16:49
Bashing-omswitchtehbeat: In that case when Wndows is installed, Windows over writes the boot code, and ubuntu can not be booted 'till ubuntu's boot code is (re-)installed {same same hard drive, right ?} .16:49
bekksBasketball: What will I see there?16:49
Basketballbekks,  what i am trying to do16:49
sapikit's allright either way. use livecd to fix the grub after that.16:50
bekksBasketball: Why dont you just tell us what you are trying to do?16:50
BasketballSunday-Thursday: Suspend at midnight until 6 am the next day.16:50
BasketballMonday-Friday: Wake at 6 am and suspend at 7 and wake back up at 3 pm16:50
BasketballFriday-Saturday: Suspend at midnight until i manually wake it up by pressing keyboard16:50
_unreal_well my fix for wifi worked on a second computer that was a DELL and has a broadcom wifi16:50
waykool99ok. thank you bekks. i'll use gparted, delete partitions, use GPT in Testdisk, attempt to correct the drive errors and re-install Ubuntu.16:51
switchtehbeatBashing-om, lubuntu won't detect my windows install that's why I asked. could I fix grub if I install ubuntu then windows?16:51
BasketballI want this loop only when school is in session i.e. not fall break or holidays16:51
Basketballbekks,  ^16:51
MonkeyDustswitchtehbeat  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub16:52
Bashing-omswitchtehbeat: IF ubuntu does not detect Windows, I have to assume there is indeed a problem - somewhere - . what results from terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- ?16:52
switchtehbeatBashing-om, will try16:53
switchtehbeatMonkeyDust, ?16:53
waykool99never thought i'd see the day MS would use brute force BIOS to block Linux installs.16:53
rypervenchea1g: Check PM16:53
sapikms are nasty16:53
wertIs it OK if I install Adobe Flash in Ubuntu 14.04?16:54
sapikyeah it's ok16:54
expungewert: what sapik said16:55
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wertI mean the Adobe Flash player from the Adobe's website16:56
expungewert: it can theoretically work, but it's the wrong way to go about it16:57
expungewert: what browser do you want it for?16:57
sapikyeah. there's a terminal command for that.16:57
bekks!flash | wert16:58
expungewert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash16:58
ubottuwert: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash16:58
Basketballbekks,  did you see waht i posted16:58
bekksBasketball: I did.16:58
Basketballbekks, ..16:58
wertexpunge: For Mozilla16:58
expungewert: you took too long =P the link explains either16:59
expunges/either/whichever/16:59
sapikhey where do you guys got that ! command for this chat?17:03
Basketballsapik,  can you please help me17:05
jacob___HI17:05
jacob___what is tghe name of ubuntu explorer17:05
sapiki'm not that good with that basketball.17:06
expungejacob___: 'nautilus'17:06
jacob___compiz?17:06
jacob___ok17:06
jacob___how does nautilus associate file time with an executable?17:06
jacob___where does it do that?17:06
expungejacob___: probably in a dconf or gconf registry17:07
jacob___where is that?17:07
expunge#gnome could tell you17:07
expungein some awful file somewhere, you're meant to use gconftool, etc.17:08
jacob___so you will not tell me here? ok, hopping around 5 groups to get one issue solved17:08
expungeor theoretically you can use xdg-settings17:08
expungejacob___: what does it matter?17:08
jacob___what are you asking expunge ?17:09
jayvigahhhhhhh this stupid os! 12 hours now and i still cant even just drag and drop icons to my dash like seriously wtf who made this thing?17:10
expungejacob___: what does it matter where the file is17:10
sapiklol jayvi17:10
jacob___wot?17:10
mattxtnsounds like gnome jayvi17:10
cYmenHow do I find out which fonts are available for setting for urxvt in the xresources file?17:10
jayviim so upset right now :(17:10
sapikit's cleaner that way jayvi17:10
yoshua_____Sexy?Sex17:10
expungecYmen: xfontsel17:10
yoshua____?Sexy?Sexy17:11
yoshua___y?Sexy?Sexy?17:11
yoshua___?Sexy?Sexy?S17:11
yoshua___?Sexy?Sexy?S17:11
jacob___expunge: aah yeah coz, i dont have telepathic ability to change to file, i really have to vi it or something so i would need to know WHAT the file actually is17:11
yoshua__?Sexy?Sexy?Se17:11
jacob___duuuh17:11
yoshua_?Sexy?Sexy?Se17:11
unopasteyoshua you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted17:11
expungejayvi: run app, right click icon, pin17:11
DJonesyoshua: stop that17:11
jayviwell gnome was working alright for a second but i still couldnt use the desktop in a conventional way17:11
mattxtndont use gnome17:11
mattxtnif thats an issue17:11
expungejayvi: conventional?17:11
jayvilike just put anything I want onto the desktop17:12
yoshua______?Sexy?17:12
yoshua______?Sexy?17:12
yoshua______?Sexy?17:12
jacob___wtf?17:12
jayviI went into the settings and disabled the one click option so at least I found out how to get my right click back but still idk what the deal is like did I install the whole thing wrong or somethigng?17:12
expungejayvi: right click, add launcher17:13
cYmenexpunge: What about things that it doesn't display like terminus, droid, monospace?17:14
jayvibut thats just it i despise this launcher at this point its just always there no matter what and then when I turn it to auto hide I cant get it back! which wouldnt be a problem if I could just get what I wanted on the desktop in the first place lol its like this never ending loop im stuck in17:14
jayvior at least put it to the bottom of the desktop but nope. not happening either lol17:15
sapikhave to manually create the .desktop file right17:15
yoshuajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja http://paste.ubuntu.com/8198679/17:15
jayviuhhh i just downloaded the newest ubuntu iso from the website and then unetbootin to create the bootable usb drive then read some random website on "configuring" a few things in the terminal17:16
jayviand then I had to go into windows again and use the command prompt to type some weird stuff in17:16
jayviguess i probably should have mentioned that im dual booting a windows 8 hp and got sick of that disgusting os and instead of dual booting windows 7 i decided to give ubuntu a try17:17
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sapikso jayvi you want either the bottom application launcher or program shortcut on the desktop?17:18
jayviExactly :)17:18
jacob___hi17:18
jacob___when i double clikc a file in nautilus17:18
jacob___i see it runs this17:18
jacob___start /ProgIDOpen SumatraPDF <filename>17:18
jacob___where did /ProgIDOpen come from?17:19
expungecYmen: what about them?17:19
cYmenexpunge: Well, I know I have them installed but the are not displayed with this.17:19
sapikgimme me a second jayvi17:19
* ilk gives sapik17:19
jayvithaaaaaaaank you :)17:19
jayviin all seriousness though this os looks fantastic and it has capabilities that I know exist that far supercede windows17:20
jayviI just need to relearn how to use a computer lol17:21
sapikthe magic is in the terminal jayvi17:22
Moon_Doggydoes anyone know why when copying from ntfs to ext4 that the speed drops17:22
sapikhey jayvi try installing plank dock17:22
Basketballsapik, since it is using utc time will it wake up at 6:00 local time like i want it to17:22
jayvikk one sec17:23
Basketballjayvi, plank as in elementary os dock17:23
sapiksudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/docky && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install plank -y17:23
sapiktry that command in your terminal jayvi17:23
josePHPagodawhat's the recommended way to set environment variables in 14.04?17:24
sapikyes i think so basketball17:24
jayviso what does that all mean? Im pretty familiar with command prompt but NONE of the terminology used here is a language I recognize >.<17:24
sapikcan you open the terminal jayvi?17:25
jayviyeah its installing right now17:25
jayviactually it just finished :)17:25
rand:)17:26
jayvishould I restart?17:26
expungecYmen: what makes you think they're installed17:26
useringsjosePHPadoga, depends if you want to set some variables permanent or just temporary?17:26
sapikyeah do it17:26
jayvikk you rock ill be back17:26
josePHPagodauserings: this is permanent, else I'd just use export on PATH17:28
josePHPagoda:P17:28
useringsType the export PATH command in .bashrc file.17:29
useringsFrom this moment, the new environment variables will be seted when bash starts.17:30
userings*setted17:30
fokaffset?17:30
josePHPagodauserings: from what I read, that won't affect desktop environments though17:31
josePHPagodaonly bash17:31
useringsjosePHPagoda, yes, what you want to do at all?17:32
kevinhi everyone17:32
fokaffhi! "-)17:33
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randhi17:33
josePHPagodauserings: I want the DE to also have access to that PATH17:33
josePHPagodanot just when I fire up bash17:33
jayviyo17:33
useringsWhat DE it is?17:33
josePHPagodakde17:34
sapikit's not showing up is it jayvi17:34
jayvinope lol17:34
sapiklol yeah i thought so17:34
jayviactually though it booted up kinda weird17:34
useringsjosePHPagoda, https://userbase.kde.org/Session_Environment_Variables17:34
sapikhow weird17:35
jayviwhen i loaded before into gnome i tried loading gnome cairo dock17:35
josePHPagodauserings: that's exactly what I was looking for.17:35
userings" KDE will execute any script it finds in $HOME/.kde/env whose filename ends in .sh, and it will maintain all the environment variables set by them."17:35
josePHPagodaI searched, but I guess my google fu isn't strong enough :)17:35
jayviand there I was able to move the tiles around but it got hella glitchy and tripped out so I logged off17:35
useringsjosePHPagoda, first result in Google, actually. :)17:36
jayviand when i booted up this time it like retained the icon sizes and stuff on the desktop17:36
jayvihow do you delete files I cant even figure how to do that >.<17:36
expungejayvi: what file do you want to delete?17:36
jayvicairo dock17:37
jayvithe one i downloaded earlier17:37
expungejayvi: where'd you download it to17:37
josePHPagodauserings: what did you search for?17:37
josePHPagodaI tried kubuntu environment variables17:37
sapiki think he meant uninstall17:37
josePHPagoda:P17:37
jayvihahahaa i have no idea17:37
josePHPagodaand a few variations on it17:37
konnorrocks2hey does anyone host a mumble server on ubuntu?17:38
useringsjosePHPagoda, 'kde set environment variables'17:38
expungejayvi: neither do we if you don't answer questions17:38
expungekonnorrocks2: probably someone does17:38
josePHPagodaand a few variations on it17:38
jayviI mean how do you find out17:38
sapiktry sudo apt-get purge cairo-dock -y17:39
josePHPagodaah, well, now I have learned to search for just kde, not kubuntu :P17:39
konnorrocks2well if anyone hosts a mumble server her on ubuntu i have issues seting it up17:39
expungejayvi: you tell us17:39
josePHPagodathanksa ton userings :)17:39
useringsnp :)17:39
jayviI cant even run a basic file explorer17:39
jayvior at least find one17:39
jayviI keep looking for like a "main" file to start in but even that proves futile17:39
konnorrocks2here is my issue with mumble >>17:39
konnorrocks2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSjxKeCfe4Q&list=UULtL07XLmj8QcPYMEd0pcXw17:39
expungejayvi: click on the desktop, hit CTRL+n17:40
expungekonnorrocks2: your issue is a video?17:40
MonkeyDustkonnorrocks2  for the people witghout GUI, what's in the video?17:40
jayvikk17:40
sapiknice expunge. i didn't know that17:40
Bashing-omjayvi: OK, What distribution and release are you running ? ( the desk top environment is different ) .17:41
konnorrocks2the problem i'm having with setting up mumble is i register the superuser password but the superuser does not work in the client17:41
jayviIm not too sure what that all means but im running ubuntu 14.04.117:42
jayvior like where can that info be found?17:42
expungejayvi: that's what it meant17:42
jayviahh17:42
jayvibeen using computers for over 20 years now and this is my first time using linux ever so my bad if it feels like youre talking to a four yr old lol17:43
* expunge shrugs17:43
expungekind of how it feels no matter who I talk to =)17:43
* expunge pets ego17:43
MonkeyDustjayvi  we were all beginners, once, but drop the lol's please17:43
randhehe17:44
jayvihahaa17:44
jayviyup17:44
sapikyou can't lol here?17:44
odisaHi, I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 on an Acer Aspire One, but it's tremendously slow to the point that I fear even Windows was running faster.. would switching to KDE or GNOME (partially) resolve these performance issues?17:44
Bashing-omjayvi: A great indroduction to using ubuntu : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty  .17:44
expungeodisa: not using Unity/compiz might17:44
expungeodisa: or trying another graphics driver17:44
MonkeyDustsapik  no need to lol, this is the support channel17:44
expungeodisa: or using an entirely lighter DE, like Xfce or LXDE17:45
sapikyeah you're right. i forgot17:45
odisaexpunge: that's what thought; it seems compiz is pretty heavy on resources17:45
odisaexpunge: which of those 2 is lighter?17:45
expungeodisa: LXDE, but you can try either and then the other17:45
jayvithx for the link ill def check it out before i spam here again. thanks for all the help my comp would have been in pieces already17:46
odisathanks, I'll have a go at that expunge17:46
Damncoldhi all17:46
expungehi damn17:46
Damncoldi have a hugh problem, and dont know how to solve .. if i login to my root account on ubuntu xbmc starts automatically and i cant get to the desktop. if i close xbmc i get to the login screen.17:46
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MonkeyDustjayvi  and this http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:46
Bashing-omjayvi: :D . That is what we do, help.17:46
Basketballanyone here good with rtcwake17:46
expungeDamncold: you should be able to choose from available desktop sessions (other than xbmc, if they exist) from the login screen17:47
expungeBasketball: probably someone is17:47
MonkeyDustBasketball  ask your question to find out17:47
Damncoldomg thx expunge ... i tried the little white dot at loin screen .. and voila :>17:48
Basketballhey guys i need help writing a rtcwake that i does the following17:49
BasketballSunday-Thursday: Suspend at midnight until 6 am the next day.17:49
BasketballMonday-Friday: Wake at 6 am and suspend at 7 and wake back up at 3 pm17:49
BasketballFriday-Saturday: Suspend at midnight until i manually wake it up by pressing keyboard17:49
vl4kn0What is the optimal FPS reported by glxgears for gaming on linux?17:49
bekksglxgears performance is useless for gaming, since glxgears is a software renderer only.17:49
drebin01using irssi, unable to set theme, displaying; Irssi: Error reading theme file17:50
expungevl4kn0: optimal is a few hundred/thousand more than what you require, which is around 3017:50
vl4kn0How do I measure my performance for gaming then?17:50
vl4kn0glxgears reports: 34224 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6844.776 FPS17:51
bekksvl4kn0: by starting your game and just look at its performance and wether you are satisfied or not.17:51
expungevl4kn0: play a game, if it doesn't bother you, success17:51
expungebekks: heh17:51
bekksvl4kn0: glxgears is pretty much useless, it doesnt use any hardware capabilities.17:51
vl4kn0fair enough17:52
MonkeyDustwhat's this site with all the benchmarks, i forget the name ...17:52
expungeuselesssite.com ?17:52
expungepseudoscience.org ?17:53
josePhoenixHi all17:53
expungehi jose17:53
josePhoenixI'm trying to set up wpa_supplicant17:53
expungejosePhoenix: neato17:53
josePhoenixand I'm not sure how to get the ca_cert file everyone talks about for configuration17:53
josePhoenixMy Mac seems to download it somehow in the negotiation process17:53
josePhoenixCan I accomplish the same thing with Ubuntu?17:53
MonkeyDustvl4kn0  it's phoronix.com17:55
bekksmoronix is known for useless benchmarks, indeed.17:55
MonkeyDustok, wasnt awaronix17:55
expungeit's just that most benchmarks are useless whether they're accurate or not17:56
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jack_guruis there any way I can make the firefox icon show notifications on the dock of unity when something is triggered (ex facebook notification)?18:06
jbeezanyone know roughly how much ram a fresh ubuntu server install will use up?18:06
expungejack_guru: sure18:06
expungejbeez: all of it18:06
expungejbeez: unused ram is wasted ram18:06
jbeezi ordered an asus chromebox, its a celeron that runs 2gb of ram18:07
jbeezand im trying to figure out if i really need to add more18:07
expungejbeez: the minimum reqs are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation but they're largely mere guidelines18:07
expungejbeez: depends on what sort of work it'll be doing18:07
jbeezPHT18:07
jack_guruexpunge: is it an addon or something else I should do?18:08
jbeezthx expunge for the link18:08
bekksjbeez: you'd need to replace the processor and add more RAM. I've used that thing for ten minutes, and it was horribly slow.18:08
expungejack_guru: probably be work, but you might check the GNOME extensions DB18:08
jbeezbekks: used it how, in a gui?18:09
expungeyes, because things that computers did a decade ago as servers can't possibly be done with 2GB of RAM...18:09
bekksjbeez: It is hardware. I sat in front of it, and used it.18:09
gr33n7007hdoes any one find the in ubuntu 14.04 unity you have to keep the mouse down a couple of secs to drag things?18:10
jack_guruexpunge, you mean gnome shell extensions?18:10
expungejack_guru: yup18:10
jack_guruI don't think they are compatible with unity18:10
odisathanks expunge, LXDE seems to have solved my issues for now :)18:10
expungejack_guru: that's another matter18:10
expungeodisa: well done18:11
jbeezbekks: did you use it for PHT?18:11
bekksjbeez: What is "PHT"?18:11
jbeezplex home theater, you basically open the chromebox and put it in dev mode, wipe it and just install a bare ubuntu server install, then put a few packages on for plex and let'er rip18:11
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jack_guruexpunge, well, when I was on gnome shell and I was receiving something, the window would blink. Same with KDE. On unity it just won't notify18:12
jack_gurualso I could not find something on google18:13
ironhulkAnyone now why Ubuntu keeps telling my update information is out of date, but every time I check it says software is up to date and even after restart still not changing18:14
jabagaweeafter i tried to resume from hibernate, i got only a black screen where no ctrl-alt-fx commands would do anything, subsequent reboots also lead to the same screen. i'm in recovery mode now, so how do i make the next boot a fresh boot instead of a resume from hibernate?18:14
Basketballharris.sh: line 139: warning: here-document at line 26 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF')18:14
Basketballharris.sh: line 26: deborphan: command not found18:14
jack_guruironhulk, have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?18:15
ironhulknot yet will give it a go now18:15
bekksironhulk: Try running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:15
randbekks, we used to use glxgears to test opengl and that capability of the graphics card, are you saying that's not correct?18:15
bekksrand: Correct. It does not test any hardware capabilities at all, glxgears is softwareonly. It tests software capabilities of the graphics driver.18:16
randthat doesn't make sense18:17
bekksrand: It perfectly makes sense. glxgears does not use any capabilities requiring hardware capabilities, but software capabilities only.18:18
eeeejabagawee: try to boot into recovery mode18:20
eeeei think it uses noresume in the cmdline18:20
eeeejabagawee: hold shift while booting > advanced options > recovery18:20
jabagaweei'm in recovery mode now18:20
eeeeok18:21
eeeedid you boot it ?18:21
jabagaweeoh boot from recovery mode18:21
jabagaweei dropped myself to a root terminal18:21
eeeeyeah18:21
jabagaweehang on18:21
superlouOn a default apache install, /var/www is owned by root:root.  Is it bad to chgrp /var/www to www-data?18:22
randok bekks18:22
jabagaweehm, i'm not sure if it hung, but the line is stuck at "Stopping Read required files in advance [ OK ]"18:22
ironhulkbekks, jack_guru, thanks seems to have worked but had to restart....will see if it persists18:23
jack_guruironhulk, glad we could help :)18:23
eeeejabagawee: ?18:24
jabagaweeit's just.. stuck18:24
eeeejabagawee: reboot, press e to edit the grub menu18:25
jabagaweekay, i'm there18:25
eeeeadd noresume after where it says quiet splash18:25
eeeethen execute it18:25
jabagaweesame black screen ><18:26
uRockHi all. How do I kill Ubuntu Software Center when it is failing to finish installing something? I was trying to install Wine and I have an error in notifications, but can't get it to start the repair process because it still shows Wine as installing.18:26
eeeehmm18:26
jabagaweeis it safe to delete this file /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume18:26
jabagaweeand then run update-initramfs?18:27
bekksjabagawee: Why do you think deleting that file will change something?18:27
jabagaweebecause from what i can tell, this is what describes the uuid of the swap partition to resume from18:27
eeeejabagawee: in the black screen, can you press ctrl+alt+f1 ?18:28
jabagaweenope18:28
bekksjabagawee: And whats the actual issue?18:28
jabagaweehibernated, now i only boot to a black screen, even when i add the noresume kernel option18:28
bekksjabagawee: And why do you think deleting that named file will change that behaviour?18:29
bekksjabagawee: It's like "oh, that car doesnt start, lets shoot one window."18:29
jabagaweei was hoping it'd be more like "oh i closed that road now the car will be forced to take another"18:30
jabagaweebut you're right, that's not a smart move, since i definitely don't know what that would do18:30
jabagaweewhat do you suggest?18:30
eeeei think you can swapoff, mkswap, then update-initramfs -u18:30
Basketballhow can i install deborphan in 12.0418:30
eeeenot sure if it's ok though18:30
eeeei think something else is wrong though, dunno18:31
bekksjabagawee: Can you still boot normally, after powering off your notebook?18:31
jabagaweeit's a desktop, but i don't know how to boot normally. a cold start goes straight to the black screen18:31
eeee!find deborphan18:31
ubottuFound: deborphan18:31
bekks!nomodeset | jabagawee18:31
ubottujabagawee: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:31
trattore450ciao a tutti18:32
trattore450!list18:32
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Basketballeeee,  it says no package or whatever18:32
jabagaweethanks for the tip, just gave it a shot, but i'm still at blackscreen18:32
eeeeBasketball: sudo apt-get install deborphan18:33
eeee!info deborphan18:33
ubottudeborphan (source: deborphan): program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.28.8ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 90 kB, installed size 496 kB18:33
jabagaweeto be sure, adding boot parameters is just typing them in and hitting f10, right?18:33
eeeedo you have universe enabled?18:33
Basketballeeee,  i did18:33
eeee^^18:33
trattore450ciao a tutti18:33
interwebHi , I was using with my mouse and after a reboot its red light shows but can not move the pointer . What's the problem18:33
interweb?18:33
eeeeinterweb: try to unplug and plug back in18:34
bekksinterweb: change batteries?18:34
interwebbekks, I uses cables to connect to my Laptop18:34
interwebeeee, I've done that and rebooted for several times and nothing happend18:34
eeeeBasketball: do you have the universe repository enabled?18:35
eeeejabagawee: yes, you add and execute18:35
jabagaweein that case, nomodeset and noresume both do not work (tried separately)18:35
eeeedrop to root shell then18:36
jabagaweealright done18:36
eeeecat /var/log/syslog18:36
TJ-jabagawee: The black screen, does it happen directly after GRUB hands over to the kernel, or do you see a splash screen for a while?18:37
jabagaweeno errors, just some dhcp stuff and a "will run cron jobs soon"18:37
jabagaweeTJ-: direct18:37
interwebeeee, bekks , Can't I use command line to see what is its problem18:37
eeeeinterweb: no idea, you can use xev to see the input18:37
eeeeand xinput to see other stuff18:37
TJ-jabagawee: How many monitors does the system have?18:37
Basketballeeee,  idk it running the script screwed up my computer i cant open software center18:38
jabagaweeTJ-: two18:38
jabagaweei've booted the system fine many times until this most recent one, which came directly after a hibernate, but do you think the multimon could be a cause?18:38
interwebeeee, Nothing changes while using xev18:39
TJ-jabagawee: I'm just trying to reduce the possible issues we might need to investigate. Before the hibernate, had there been any system updates, such as kernel or the X server video drivers, that you know of?18:39
jabagaweenone18:39
bekksBasketball: Running which script?18:39
TJ-jabagawee: Any recent changes to the system configuration (not user config) ?18:40
jabagaweenone18:40
jabagaweeno apt upgrades between last good boot and this current broken one18:40
TJ-jabagawee: Ideally we need to see a log in these circumstances.  Have you tried booting with an older kernel from the GRUB menu?18:41
Basketballsapik, since it is using utc time will it wake up at 6:00 local time like i want it to18:41
jabagaweethere are no older kernels in my grub menu18:41
Basketballbekks, this is the script http://pastebin.com/G855Dfha18:41
TJ-jabagawee: That solves that! which Ubuntu release and architecture is it?18:41
jabagaweelatest x6418:42
TJ-jabagawee: 14.04 Trusty?18:42
bekksBasketball: Is that your script, or did someone else wrote it?18:42
Basketballbekks,  someone helped me write it it is made for my pc18:42
TJ-jabagawee: You've got a Recovery root shell I think? What does "uname -r" report ?18:42
Basketballharris.sh: line 139: warning: here-document at line 26 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF')18:42
Basketball<Basketball> <Basketball> harris.sh: line 26: deborphan: command not found18:42
jabagaweelemme boot into root real fast18:44
expungeBasketball: apt-file18:45
TJ-jabagawee: You're on a different PC for IRC I assume?18:45
jabagaweeyeah18:45
jabagaweealso everything just started working18:45
jabagawee....18:45
TJ-jabagawee: haha!18:45
TJ-jabagawee: I usually have that effect :p18:45
jabagaweehaha18:45
jabagaweei moved that resume file to /root18:45
jabagaweeas a backup18:45
jabagaweeupdate-initramfs'ed18:46
jabagaweeand then rebooted18:46
TJ-jabagawee: so it was resuming, despite "noresume" on the kernel command line?18:46
jabagaweeyeah18:46
jabagaweebekks, eeee, TJ-: thanks for all you guys' help18:47
jabagaweeyou're all great people18:48
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TJ-jabagawee: before you go, maybe you can help me understand why that happened - it might need fixing18:49
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jabagaweei actually still don't know why it happened18:50
jabagawee:/18:50
Guest67428ПИЗДА ПИЗДА 228!18:50
TJ-jabagawee: When you added "noresume" to the kernel command-line, via GRUB, did you add it at the end of the "linux ..." line?18:51
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jabagaweeand then i hit f1018:51
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ubottuGuest67428: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:52
bekksThats macedonian.18:52
TJ-Guest67428 ве молиме запрете овој канал е само за поддршка18:52
LucasTTcan anyone send me a pastebin of your google chrome desktop file?18:53
Guest67428Сяп18:53
Guest67428Спасибо18:54
Guest67428Но всё равно иди нахуй18:54
pavlos!ru | Guest6742818:55
ubottuGuest67428: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:55
bekksGuest67428: Слушаат проклетство.18:55
TJ-Guest67428: Гэты канал прызначаны толькі для падтрымкі англійскай мовы, вы можаце паспрабаваць # Ubuntu-ру, калі вы таксама гавораць па-руску.18:55
bazhang-ru18:55
FauzrukIs there a way on ubuntu to get a elementaryOs feel?18:57
FauzrukI mean in terms of layout18:57
eeee!poland | Guest6742818:57
ubottuGuest67428: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.18:57
Guest67428Блядь, я понял, нахуй иди18:57
bekkseeee: He is talking in the macedonian language, not polish language :)18:57
LucasTTFauzruk, i think you could try using the pantheon DE18:58
eeeebekks: no idea, his IP points to minsk, and google says the official language was Polish, thought to give it a shot18:58
OerHeks!mk18:58
bekkseeee: Minsk is in the Ukraine.18:58
FauzrukThat seems to be exactly what I'm looking for LucasTT, thanks18:58
LucasTTnp18:59
OerHeks#ubuntu-mk -  Macedonia18:59
eeee!macedonia | Guest6742818:59
eeeenever thought i'd see the day ubottu failed18:59
eeeebekks: must be a different minsk?19:01
eeeesaid the country code was BY19:01
eeeei think Belarus ? not sure19:02
bekkseeee: Oh, I'm sorry. Minsk is in Belarus, and polish is not the official language there.19:02
eeeebekks: yeah it said at some point it was, so just gave it a shot19:02
bekksI didnt ment to open up another territorial conflict in th that regian ;)19:02
eeeehehe19:02
Guest67428hey, i'm from Belarus :D19:06
Guest67428And.. I'm not well speak in english, but will understand what you say ^^19:06
Guest67428Sorry, guys :)19:06
OerHeksnp Guest67428  have fun19:07
logyhey guys i need help, how to put win 7 iso to usb (unetbootin cant recognize ntfs usb)19:07
OerHekslogy,  maybe you need to format it to fat32, better ask in ##windows19:08
logyOerHeks not, it19:09
nicholas_I would like to install a mail server to recive email (not send) what should I search for?19:09
logyOerHeks no fat32, install gets error19:09
logyDo you know any other software than unet?19:09
bekkslogy: you need to ask ##windows on how to create a windows bootable usb media, I'm afraid.19:10
switchtehbeatwhy is my lubuntu install not reconizing windows?19:10
bwaxxloHi All, how do I increase my linux drive size through gparted?19:10
bwaxxloI can only view the partition and increase/decrease my windows partition but linux size remains stuck19:10
bwaxxloI'm booting from a USB linux image if it helps19:11
famazlogy> here you are: http://www.windows7.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1415.0.html19:11
shadaloohi friends. i have noticed that when i leave transmission running over night, many times i will come back and the program will not be running19:12
famazlogy> this page is in polish, but some printscreen may hgelp19:12
shadalooany ideas?19:12
shadaloois ubuntu stopping my process when the screen becomes locked?19:12
MonkeyDustshadaloo  if there are no seeders, nothing continues19:12
shadalooMonkeyDust: no that is not it19:13
shadaloothe entire program is closed19:13
shadaloowith plenty of seeders19:13
delinquentmeSOOOO Is there any way I can sort out what kind of memory I CURRENTLY have running in my ubuntu laptop without yanking off the keyboard and checking out the physical stick?  Also does it actually matter to have matched brands of ram ?19:14
shadaloois there some way to 'safelist' a program to keep it running?19:14
bekksdelinquentme: look at the output of "free -m"19:14
delinquentmeI kinda just need more memory  -- would I be safe to just check the type of DDR on the ram and buy another stick to shove in it?19:14
bazhangdelinquentme, what does dmidecode say19:14
shadalooBeldar: my transmission is closing when i go to sleep, any idea how to ensure it continues to run?19:14
bekksdelinquentme: And yes, it matters to have matching types of memory.19:15
OerHeksdelinquentme, sure, lshw should tell19:15
switchtehbeatwhy is my lubuntu install not reconizing windows?19:15
delinquentmebazhang, https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/6a18afc495ebfd1649d919:16
OerHeksdelinquentme, sudo dmidecode --type 1719:17
shadaloohrmm19:17
delinquentmeMaximum Capacity: 16 GB  <<<???19:17
shadaloowell i needed to switch to a different client anyway19:17
delinquentmedoes that mean this machine will handle 16gb of ram??!19:17
delinquentmeI might go buy this today >_<19:18
delinquentmehttps://gist.github.com/carlcrott/6a18afc495ebfd1649d919:18
delinquentmemanufacturer : samsung?19:18
OerHeksmax adressable memory = ram + videoram+cpu cache + hdd cache19:18
delinquentmePWEH!19:18
delinquentmeOerHeks, it looks like it supports up to 16GB! http://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-thinkpad-t430-2344-14-core-i7-3520m-windows-7-pro-64-bit-8-gb-ram-500-gb-hdd-series/specs/19:19
delinquentmeOhhh craapppppp19:19
* delinquentme happy19:19
bekksdelinquentme: That will be expensive.19:19
delinquentmebekks, I thought RAM is typically cheap19:20
delinquentmebut it also depends on size / type / speed19:20
bekksdelinquentme: About 2x 90€.19:21
delinquentmeoh still though.19:21
delinquentmeSODIMM DDR3 matched 8gb RAM << is the search string I want right?19:21
bekksdelinquentme: No. "PC3-12800 8GB" - you need two S0-204 DIMM.19:22
MonkeyDustdelinquentme  iirc, ls -lh /proc/kcore tells you how much RAM your machine can allocate (theoreticaly)19:23
Beldarswitchtehbeat, Can you pastebin sudo parted -l19:23
delinquentmebekks, hmmmm all Im seeing is stuff for desktops19:23
delinquentmeMonkeyDust, root root 128T Aug 31 12:23 /proc/kcore19:24
bekksdelinquentme: so search for "PC3-12800 S0 204"19:24
switchtehbeatsudo parted -1?19:24
Beldarswitchtehbeat, small L19:24
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daskdtI have a 17 inch laptop screen, a processor, and 5gb of ram. Anyone know a DIY I could do using all of that hardware?19:24
delinquentmenew egg is returning nothing ( suprising? )19:24
MonkeyDustdaskdt  how is that ubutu related?19:25
MonkeyDustubuntu*19:25
daskdtIt's not, but I know lots of people on linux also know those types of things19:25
bekksdelinquentme: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239697&cm_re=PC3-12800_204_8GB-_-20-239-697-_-Product19:25
bekksdelinquentme: There you go...19:25
switchtehbeatBeldar, what does it do? I'm on windows right now, also. lubuntu is not installed. I want to dual boot win7/lubuntu but it won't recoize any parition or windows 7 :(19:26
bekksdelinquentme: Or even more results: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=PC3-12800+204+8GB&N=-1&isNodeId=119:26
Beldarswitchtehbeat, Than why did you say your lubuntu install? Boot the lubuntu live so we can woek from there19:26
Beldarwork*19:27
delinquentmeok wow so LOTS of choices then19:27
switchtehbeatbecause i can't install it because it doesn't reconize windows :S19:27
bekksdelinquentme: And remember, you need 2x 8GB to get your 16GB.19:27
delinquentmeja19:27
bekksdelinquentme: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=PC3-12800+204+16GB&N=-1&isNodeId=119:28
delinquentmebekks, haha yeah we updated the same for search :D19:28
delinquentmeso at this point its " do more research on whos the companys ram to go with "19:28
Beldarswitchtehbeat, Right it helps if you are clear and are on the live, trying to give info for a person whom is lost to is like try.ing to memorize a song after playing once19:28
switchtehbeatBeldar,19:29
switchtehbeatokay19:29
switchtehbeatbut....19:29
switchtehbeatthis is doing my nut in!19:29
switchtehbeatso boot the live cd now?19:29
Beldarswitchtehbeat, Is this process gonna take 5 posts each time just to get to the instructions I gave already?19:30
Beldarfree help here I have limited patience is all others have higher19:31
Guest42154A quick question: I met a problem on apache2 someone can help me feature ?19:32
MonkeyDustGuest42154  ask and wait19:32
Guest42154ok thanks19:33
daskdtIRC usually adheres to don't ask to ask, just ask and someone will assist you when they can19:33
Guest42154I recently installed apache, and I'd like to know how to run it, test for php19:34
delinquentmebekks, Should I be worried that the prices im paying online are comparable to those for Best Buy  ??19:34
delinquentmeor is RAM really that cheaply / evenly distributed ?19:34
daskdtnewegg ram prices are usually very acurate19:35
MonkeyDustGuest42154  do some book reading, follow tutorials etc19:35
bekksdelinquentme: I dont see a reason to be concerned about cheap prices.19:35
daskdtunless you buy some cheap (in a bad way) offbrand19:35
daskdtGuest42154: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-test-php-installation-with-a-phpinfo-page/19:36
delinquentmedaskdt, yeah that was my worry.  I checked on new egg and also a big package store out here and they're really similar19:37
daskdtdelinquentme: how much for how much ram19:37
bekksdaskdt: 150$ for 16GB S0-204 PC3-1280019:38
delinquentmedaskdt, PNY 2*8gb laptop ram PC3-1280019:38
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delinquentmeyeah $143 at best buy19:38
daskdtthats about right for 16gb19:39
Guest42154daskdt: Ok, thank you for your answer, but I think I misstated my question. I am trying to create a website with php file thus. I just need to see if it works on the browser19:40
daskdtGuest42154: http://php.net/manual/en/tutorial.firstpage.php19:40
daskdt?19:40
Beldarsince when was support on ram issues other than when broken19:42
Beldartake it to #ubuntu-offtopic19:43
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sanhi!19:45
=== san is now known as Guest70875
useringsHi.19:45
=== ubuntu is now known as Guest37011
=== Guest37011 is now known as blackangelpr
blackangelprhi all can some one tell me how to upgrade grub from live cd i used my ssd  on usb for a while  until i finish fixing my old laptop now the laptop bios see the ssd but do not boot :( had try boot repair without luck :(19:47
blackangelpr<skylake> when is skylake going to drop?19:50
blackangelprups19:50
ideas#ubuntu.at19:52
ideas#ubuntu-at19:53
daskdtblackangelpr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd19:54
emxi compiled a kernel and for some reason i can't get my logitech unified receiver working. i do have hidraw, hiddev and the module for the receiver selected but no sign of life (dmesg line that is). any ideas? do i need to select something specific in input device support section?19:55
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daskdtis it a usb device?19:57
daskdtexm ^19:57
marby188hello19:58
jayvihow do i install the latest version of ubuntu tweak (8.7)?19:58
marby188somebody know how i can access my lamp server over local network from a windows computer?19:58
Beldarjayvi, There is a ppa look there19:59
jayvii thought I used the ppa but I think somewhere along the line I did it wrong19:59
blackangelprdaskdt, thanks19:59
daskdtjayvi: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak20:00
jayvithank you20:00
Beldarjayvi, 8.7 is not the latest, what ubuntu release are you running?20:00
daskdtjayvi: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak --update20:00
jayviim running 14.0420:00
Busserlmarby188: what do you mean exactly?20:00
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blackangelprfound this one seems more detailed http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd20:01
jayvistill pretty new to ubuntu so my only knowledge comes from the user manual you guys and google so far20:01
Beldarjayvi, 8.8.1 is in the ubuntu tweak ppa trusty build20:01
marby188Busser1: i have a lamp server installed on my ubuntu computer, from there i want to browse a page i have created on the local network20:01
daskdtjayvi: is it broken? you could --remove all20:01
marby188Busser1: the other machine is a windows 7 computer20:02
jayviahh20:02
Beldardaskdt, You need to check your apt-get commands20:02
jayviim still pretty new to the whole command line as far as doing things on my own so Im not too sure how to go about doinganything specific20:02
daskdtmarby188: if your windows computer is on the local network you should be able to just navigate to the IP address20:02
Busserlmarby188: you should try entering the ip of the ubuntu server20:02
marby188yes, i've done that, wich is 10.0.0.26, but it only works on the local machine20:03
Busserlmarby188: http://10.0.0.26/ as URL in the browser only works locally?20:03
zykotick9marby188: is this a VM?  is your win7 box getting a 10.x.x.x ip address (i'd guess not).20:04
marby188Busser1: yes20:04
marby188zykotick: sorry, what is a VM? :p20:05
jayvii got it to work thx yo20:05
Busserlmarby188: Weird, check the port setting on the webserver, maybe it is not 80. Also check if a firewall is blocking.20:05
blackangelprrouter port fowaring20:05
Busserlmarby188: firewall on the server, I mean20:05
zykotick9marby188: your lamp install box?  that 10.0.0.26 sounds like it might be a VM natted IP address20:06
marby188Busser1: i know, it feels weird, i've checked that it listens to port 80 in apache2.conf20:06
Busserlzykotick9: 10.x.x.x is a valid private range20:06
jbeezrfc191820:07
zykotick9Busserl: sure, but is you win7 in that same range?20:07
Busserlmarby188: Well if your browser debugger doesn't help, you could try looking at the IP packets with tcpdump or wireshark20:07
darkangelIs Ubuntu Forums a place to Post things that are coming to Ubuntu that 1 is currently Developing?20:07
Busserlzykotick9: My box is on the range my ISP's router is, my former ISP used that range instead of 192.168.0.x20:08
Nero_hello amigos!!20:08
marby188Busser1: maybe i've got a firewall on the server, i've though not installed any20:08
Nero_ssup niggas!20:09
marby188Busser1: are there any by default?20:09
zykotick9Busserl: well, if both machines have a 10.x.x.x then that's fine - good luck.20:09
Nero_join #ubuntuforums20:09
Busserlmarby188: Not sure, sorry. Have you tried telnetting to port 80 from the win machine?20:09
blackangelprNero_, hola , hi, priviet , ni hao :)20:09
Busserlzykotick9: I hope they are. :)20:09
marby188Busser1: sorry, don't know what that mean :P20:10
Busserlmarby188: First, does the browser say, it times out?20:10
marby188Busser1: yes20:10
Busserlmarby188: can you ping it?20:10
Froodle(14.04) When I click on the Files icon in the launcher, I open a new window instead of switching to the currently open window.  It works normal on any other application, even across workspaces but not the Files icon.  Also, the Files icon has a red background when it's open (the icon itself is white and blue).  Can anyone help?20:11
daskdtmarby188: telnet 10.0.0.26 8020:11
Busserlmarby188: unfortunately windows doesn't install telnet by default, it is available though.20:11
marby188Busser1: i pinged it from cmd and it timed out20:11
Nero_ikonia Hope you are in good health !20:12
bekksmarby188: Is your Ubuntu running in a VM?20:12
marby188bekks: it's installed on side of windows20:12
bekksmarby188: What does that mean?20:12
daskdtinside of windows marby188?20:12
bekksmarby188: How did you install it?20:13
marby188daskdt: not inside of windows20:13
Nero_he means "beside"20:13
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marby188bekks: from usb20:13
bekksmarby188: And currently you are in Windows?20:13
Nero_blackangelpr ssup?20:13
marby188bekks: yes, on the other computer20:13
bekksmarby188: ah ok.20:13
marby188Busser1: do i need telnet?20:14
Busserlmarby188: can you ping your internet router?20:14
bekksmarby188: which IP does the Ubuntu computer have, which one does the computer you are at currently have?20:14
Busserlmarby188: no, you have no network connection at all.20:14
marby188Busser1: yes, 192.168.1.1 responds20:14
daskdtmarby188: try in cmd ping http://10.0.0.2620:14
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blackangelprNero_,  trying to upgrade grub on my  ssd without sucess :( i dont want to re install ubuntu :(20:14
blackangelprupdate20:14
Busserlmarby188: well, ubuntu is on a different network20:15
Guest42154Someone could tell me what is a web root folder? I create a folder for listed different php page html and css; is that right ?20:15
Nero_blackangelpr what's the issue?20:15
daskdtblackangelpr: is the SSD mounted?20:16
useringsGuest42154, search for 'public_html' or 'www' folders on the server.20:16
marby188Busser1: i can though browse the xampp setup i have in the windows machine on the ubuntu machine20:16
Busserlmarby188: I don't get your setup, you say both are real PCs on the same LAN?20:16
blackangelprNero_, used my ssd on the house computer as usb until i repair my old laptop but now can not boot :P the driver is mounted on  mnt /sda1 but the binding process mentioned on http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd   do not work since there is no dev sys and proc on mnt20:16
marby188Busser1: yes20:16
zykotick9!xampp | marby18820:17
ubottumarby188: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.20:17
bekksmarby188: If they are on the same LAN - why do they have addresses from different networks?20:17
marby188bekks: interesting, i'll have another look on that20:18
daskdtblackangelpr: what partition is your ubuntu install on for your SSD20:18
blackangelprhere is some information   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8192171/20:18
bekksmarby188: 10.0.0.x and 192.168.1.x are different networks.20:18
captain_haddockHi, anybody familiar with ufw?20:18
daskdtblackangelpr: sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt in your case20:19
marby188bekks: that's probably right20:19
marby188bekks: how did you know that just looking at the ips?20:19
zykotick9daskdt: blackangelpr warning /dev/sda is the drive - NOT a partition20:19
blackangelprdaskdt,  a;readu mounted20:20
Nero_blackangelpr have you run sudo mount /dev/sda/mnt ?20:20
blackangelpryes20:20
Nero_what was the outcome/20:20
bekksmarby188: 10.x.x.x is a class A network, while 192.168.1.x is a class C.20:20
blackangelprmount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt busy20:21
blackangelprmount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt20:21
marby188bekks: how do you see that?20:21
blackangelprlittle bit confusing XD20:21
bekksmarby188: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address#IPv4_addresses20:21
Nero_Have you created a boot partition?20:21
zykotick9blackangelpr: note, it's sda1 that's mounted at /mnt20:21
captain_haddockAnybody?20:22
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captain_haddockI've a script that makes multiple ssh calls to my server to perform tasks. This is triggering ufw's rate limit. How do I disable or adjust it?20:22
Guest72939Hi, how do I know that the .iso I downloaded from ubuntu.com is safe? I followed the md5sum tutorial and everything came out ok20:23
Nero_captain haddock20:23
bekksGuest72939: So it is "safe".20:23
Guest72939but how do you know when using open source software that it is safe20:23
daskdtGuest72939: then its safe20:23
FreeNowguest72939 define "safe"20:23
Guest72939I mean,, couldn't anyone just change the code?20:23
Nero_captain haddock http://serverfault.com/questions/368523/rate-limiting-with-ufw-setting-limits20:24
FreeNowguest72939 and if it was a malicious change then anyone could remove it20:24
Guest72939FreeNow: ahhhh20:24
FreeNowguest72939 unlike with closed source software, where you can't remove malicious changes even if you know they exist20:24
arooni-mobilei accidentally dropped my WD external hard drive.  its in a fat32 format.  how can i run a check via ubuntu 14.04 to see the structural integrity of the data/drive?  thanks!20:24
blackangelprzykotick9,  Nero_ ,  so i am trying to mount the usb with live ubuntu again LOL ?   EFI its on the ssd /dev/sda120:24
daskdtGuest72939: open source is more often "safer" than closed source because anything suspicious would be pointed out by the users and no one would use the software and no, if you download from an official source (website, or software center) no one is plotting evil20:24
Guest72939FreeNow; but couldn't it have a secret key logger? that way no one would know20:24
Guest72939who would be using it that is20:25
bekksGuest72939: It will be noticed that the source has been changed.20:25
FreeNowguest72939 no, anyone could remove the keylogger if they saw the change20:25
Guest72939Ahhh I see20:25
Nero_guest72939  when the md5 checksum is intact. there's nothing you should worry about.20:25
Guest72939I get it20:25
zykotick9blackangelpr: sorry, i know nothing of EFI.  best of luck!20:25
FreeNowguest72939 :)20:25
blackangelprthanks zykotick920:25
eeeeGuest72939: closed source is open source at some point20:25
FreeNowguest72939 if you start installing proprietary software on your linux machine, then you don't know20:26
eeeeif you get what i mean20:26
FreeNoweeee um, no20:26
daskdtblackangelpr: that link i sent you should work but you need to use sda120:26
jattarooni-mobile: there is ntfsfix check the man page for details20:26
elementary-site4harris.sh: line 139: warning: here-document at line 26 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF')20:26
captain_haddockNero_: Thanks. That solution seems to involve hacking /lib/ufw/user.rules. Is this really kosher?20:26
FreeNoweeee "open-source" doesn't just mean the source is available20:26
piglitwhat is the command line command to see what is connected to the local pc?20:26
OerHeksarooni-mobile, testdisk maybe, i would use ubcd20:26
eeeeFreeNow: i mean to say closed source is also written by people, then distributed as closed source20:26
daskdtblackangelpr: if the linnk i sent doesn't work please let me know at which step you run into an issue20:26
elementary-site4OerHeks:  harris.sh: line 139: warning: here-document at line 26 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF')20:26
FreeNoweeee yes but that doesn't mean it goes from open-source to closed-source20:26
Nero_captain haddock is it solved?20:26
blackangelprdaskdt,  already try but when try to bind the dev sys and proc are not found20:26
Guest72939FreeNow: So I can be confident that the version of ubunut I installed today ( that passed the md5sum check) is safe to use and not going to steal my passwords etc?20:26
captain_haddockNero_: It also states that this is for 10.04. Any changes for 14.04?20:27
eeeeFreeNow: Santa clause doesn't have his elfs build windows magically.20:27
OerHekselementary-site4, stop that script please, thanks20:27
arooni-mobileOerHeks, you would not use ntfsix?20:27
FreeNowguest72939 correct20:27
arooni-mobileOerHeks, and why testdisk over ubcd20:27
elementary-site4OerHeks:  what do you mean?20:27
FreeNoweeee i know, but that doesn't make windows at any point open-source20:27
eeeeFreeNow: it was a matter of speech20:27
FreeNoweeee ok20:27
daskdteeee: but its not correct in any way20:27
captain_haddockNero_: Trying now. But I'd just as well simply use iptables if I'm going to have to do stuff like this.20:27
arooni-mobileto be fair i can see all the current files on it20:27
OerHeksarooni-mobile, ntfs-fix for fat32?20:27
FreeNowopen-source, shared-source, and closed-source are all terms that refer to the user/developer relationship20:27
FreeNowand they all have specific definitions20:28
Nero_captain haddock you basically need to limit the rate, or disable it.20:28
eeeedaskdt: i'm referring to the logic of Guest ... i get that it doesnt make sense20:28
arooni-mobileOerHeks, im guessing ntfs-fix doesnt support fat3220:28
Nero_how can i stop seeing these 'has joined in", "has logged out" here?20:28
Nero_whats the command?20:28
FreeNownero_ what irc client20:28
blackangelprdaskdt, so i should reinstall? :(20:29
daskdteeee: sorry i thought he nickchanged to you20:29
eeeedaskdt: as he seems to think if it's open source then a keylogger could be there vs closed source cant20:29
eeeeget it ?20:29
daskdtyes i thought you weere him20:29
pavlosNero_, right click on the channel, settings, hide messages20:29
eeeenp :)20:29
Guest72939FreeNpw: If someone makes a change in the code, it might take days for someone to sport the error, right?20:29
FreeNoweeee the opposite is true lol20:29
arooni-mobileOerHeks, i'm sorry its in NTFS20:29
eeeeFreeNow: i know! :D20:29
darkangelHey i got a question... is Ubuntu Developers and workers cruel?20:29
FreeNowguest72939 yes but new ubuntu releases take months20:29
marby188_to you guys i was talking to recently: thank you, i got it working now, my computers had connected to different routers on the wlan20:30
FreeNowguest72939 so the code is evaluated before being released20:30
marby188_thank you very much :)20:30
zykotick9!quietirssi | Nero_ if you happen to be using irssi ;)20:30
ubottuNero_ if you happen to be using irssi ;): To ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi:  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS20:30
Nero_I got it.20:30
arooni-mobileOerHeks, so is ntfs-fix safe to run?  im reading some stuff online that it corrrupted data20:30
bekksarooni-mobile: Without a backup, there is no such tool which is "safe" to run.20:31
FreeNowguest72939 open-source software is by nature better for your privacy because you know what it is doing because the source code is available and can be changed if need be20:31
FreeNowguest72939 with closed-source/proprietary software there can be many privacy problems (Windows is an example that comes to mind, and every other piece of software identified as part of PRISM)20:32
Busserlmarby188_: nice :)20:32
OerHeksarooni-mobile, the fastest way to be sure that your files are good, is to copy them :-)20:33
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Guest72939FreeNode: ahhh ok20:33
Nero_guest72939 your question has diverse answers! And you don't seem to come to terms of the fact that open source is authentic and developed by people who value time and technology beyond their prima insignia 'life'.20:34
arooni-mobileOerHeks, i mean mostly there is just a lot of movies/music etc20:34
calinda@FreeNow Weeell, you potentially could find out what it is doing. But we all know how trusting in someone checking the source code lead to the OpenSSL disaster...20:34
FreeNowcalinda that's a good point but companies should have been putting more money into it if they were so dependent on it20:35
calindaAbsolutely true!20:35
TJ-I think the larger benefit of using Open Source is that someone else's priorities can't prevent you from implementing bug-fixes or feature improvements, if you need them20:36
OerHeksno security through obscurity20:37
zykotick9arooni-mobile: i honestly would run ntfs correction stuff from gnu/linux... but i'm conservative... YMMV20:37
zykotick9s/would/wouldn't/20:37
Nero_I told you guys. its diverse!20:38
OerHeksubcd is the safest way and open source, if you do not have a copy of windows20:38
Guest72939How about server mirrors, when I downloaded the iso it was from a mirror not from ubunut.com20:39
Nero_md5checksum, boy !20:39
OerHeks!mirrors20:40
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Trusty, and help keeping the servers' load low!20:40
Guest72939what if the person hosting the mirror  changed the iso, and changed the m5sum, I would never know and they could be snooping on me20:40
eeeeGuest72939: if the md5sum is the same as the official one you should be ok, i think20:40
guest2535Hi20:40
Nero_eeee yes! I totally agree with you!20:40
bekksGuest72939: Then dont use mirrors but only official websites. And/or compare the official md5 sum with the mirrors' md5sum.20:41
Nero_Guest72939 I suggest you have a low understanding on md5 checksum. read !20:41
rww(official MD5 list is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes )20:41
OerHeksTes, there are sites that offer ubuntu with a different name, mint, elementary and such20:42
OerHekstes=yes20:42
Nero_md5 checksum isn't a beanstalker's grape fruit that's colored orange. the whole point in coming up with the md5 checksum is to make sure the release is authentic and untampered.20:42
zykotick9Nero_: NO don't suggest reading about md5!  that'll add to the problem ;)  md5 is broken, and quasi-deprecated...20:43
Nero_zykotick9 and you expect the guest user would get it? now?20:43
* rww sighs20:43
running_rabbit07If you are that paranoid, build a monitoring system like this one to see what is going through your network. http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Firewall-and-Intrusion-Detection-Syst/?ALLSTEPS20:44
Guest72939Well even the ubuntu website states that it has been broken20:44
bekksGuest72939: Then use SHA-256 instead. And the above still applies. :)20:44
rwwmd5 is broken in the sense that it's less non-trivial than it should be to find some input that hashes the same as your ISO. getting "some input" to be something that 1) will boot, and 2) is malicious, is pretty much impossible20:45
arooni-mobilehey everyone i have a NTFS external hard drive that ubuntu 14.04 isnt letting me write to.  however looks like its mounted rw; /dev/sdb1 on /media/david/HardDriveArooni type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)... ideas?20:45
Beldararooni-mobile, Might need a chkdsk, that a fstab notation?20:47
Guest72939I suppose nothing secure really. I mean when you buy a windows PC is usually comes installed with a windows OS who knows who could have tampered with that20:48
elementary-site4harris.sh: line 139: warning: here-document at line 26 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF') harris.sh: line 26: bad substitution: no closing "`" in `20:48
zykotick9rww: <OT> i was going to point out tails as only offering sha checksums, but turns out they use signed gpg now </OT>20:48
bekksGuest72939: And thats totally unreleated to Ubuntu support. :)20:48
eeeeGuest72939: the question is, why would someone want to snoop on a random person anyways20:48
arooni-mobileBeldar, its a NTFS drive.  but on  the command line i can run the cp command and it works;  it appears its just nautilus20:48
Guest72939eeee: true20:49
Guest72939eeee: well they could use your machine as a bot20:49
* Beldar has a tin hat that vibrates at A 44020:49
rwwactual Ubuntu support here, tin-foil hat discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, ta20:49
running_rabbit07Guest72939, Did you see my last post? Set that up and catch someone in the act, if you are worried about your system being used as a bot or being snooped upon.20:50
Guest72939Just interested guys20:50
Guest72939thanks for allowing me to pick your brains20:50
Beldararooni-mobile, Not really sure your issue, however if you have no windows computer involved nor need a ntfs I would make it a linux ext partitioning, NTFS has issues requiring chkdsk's on occasions if read by linux.20:52
rwwelementary-site4: pasting some warning message into the channel with no context when you're not even using Ubuntu is not going to get you anywhere in #ubuntu, fyi20:52
arooni-mobileBeldar, im gonna boot up a windows xp comp20:52
arooni-mobileas a VM20:52
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awildmousehas appeared.20:55
Guest72939How do you stop unity from search the web everytime you search for an application20:56
Guest72939?20:56
rwwGuest72939: System Settings -> Privacy, there's an option in there20:56
Guest72939cool!20:56
chzI accidently deleted all the desktop entries in /usr/share/applications/,  is there a easy way to get them back20:59
Beldarchz, accidently?21:01
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Nero_wtf is wrong with some people here? they keep changing nicks like TV channels when you know the satellite's dead a decade ago !21:04
Guest-66679lots of ppl have this channel bookmarked but dont really use it unless they need something21:05
SchrodingersScat!language | Nero_21:05
ubottuNero_: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:05
rwwNero_: once every 10 or 20 minutes doesn't seem like something to get unhappy about...21:05
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chzBeldar: Yes, being stupid, put a line in Makfile, and didn't recheck the whole file21:07
chzAny one here??21:13
pax2youhello!21:14
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FreeNowhi pax2you and chz21:14
Nero_yes21:15
pax2youit's quite now21:15
SthNotTakenI've been spending time with a rijx instance. I am using 14.04-64 bit and I can't seem to be able to configure anything21:16
SthNotTaken"ls" shows nothing21:17
SthNotTakenexcept for the result of "php setup/cli/manage.php deploy --setup /var/www/htdocs/osticket/"21:17
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SthNotTakenI've successfully installed phpmyadmin but I can't find it on the server.21:19
SthNotTakenI fllowed this (but didn't make it to step 4) https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-0421:20
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: How did you install phpmyadmin?21:20
Psil0CybinWhy I am asking is that usually, I place the folder within /usr/share/nginx/www, if i am using nginx obvviously and it just works, I do not need to install anything for it..?21:21
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: apt-get install phpmyadmin21:21
SthNotTakenI'm trying to navigate through ubuntu. I only have 1 folder21:22
SthNotTaken1 folder total when I hit "ls"21:22
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: okay question, once installed did you already have Apache, Nginx? or something similar installed?21:22
SthNotTakenapache2-v21:22
SthNotTakenreports Apache/2.4.721:23
Psil0Cybindo you have /etc/phpmyadmin ?21:23
SthNotTakenlike I said... I only have /osTicket-1.821:23
SthNotTakenand I'm currently in there... and I can't go 'back'21:23
Psil0Cybinare you in the terminal?21:23
SthNotTakenI suppose I could close and re-open21:23
SthNotTakenyes21:23
Psil0Cybinokay type this "cd /etc/phpmyadmin/"21:24
SthNotTakenI thought "cd.." brings me up21:24
ikoniaNero_: is there a reason you keep randomly highlighting me ?21:24
Psil0Cybincd .. does bring you up.21:24
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: that worked. I'm not in /etc/phpmyadmin21:24
Psil0CybinSorry you are not in /etc/phpmyadmin?21:24
SthNotTakenI'm now in*21:24
Psil0Cybinokay, perfect21:24
Psil0Cybinokay now since you have that folder/files there...we are on the right track21:25
Nero_ikonia yes. Your service to this community is impeccable ! I salute !21:25
Psil0Cybinwhat we need to do now is modify Apache2, so that it loads phpmyadmin21:25
ikoniaNero_: can you please stop randomly hilighting me.21:25
Psil0Cybinso what you are going to do is type "sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf"21:25
dylanm312Hi all, I have a question when you have a minute21:25
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: let me know when you are in that document.21:25
blackangelprdylanm312, just ask :P21:25
SthNotTakenI have opened it21:25
Nero_ikonia ok. i wouldn't randomise you! My apologies !21:26
Psil0Cybinnow SthNotTaken type at the bottom, "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf"21:26
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: after you did that , type "sudo service apache2 restart"21:26
Nero_ikonia am i forgiven?21:26
dylanm312Ok so I have a server running 12.04 server (14.04 wouldn't install for some reason) and although it pings fine, apt-get commands don't work21:26
dylanm312In addition, service network start results in network stop/waiting21:26
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: now you can do "youripaddress/phpmyadmin."21:27
Psil0Cybinafter you restart apache2 :D21:27
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: I followed what you said, now it works21:27
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: Good :D21:27
dylanm312Anyone have a guess as to why I can't access the internet?21:27
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: I also need to add osTicket the same way, yes?21:27
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: with linux, installing a program is often not enough it is the small configurations that do not actually get made, that you have to get your hands dirty for :D21:27
ikoniadylanm312: does not your network card have an ip address ?21:27
SthNotTakenapache2 needs to load OSTable in the same way?21:28
dylanm312It does21:28
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: Let me double check, never used osTicket, but I will help you get it running today :D21:28
ikoniadylanm312: what is the ip address21:28
dylanm312there's a lot21:28
dylanm312one sec21:28
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: You're a lifesaver21:28
ikoniadylanm312: there should only be one21:28
dylanm312wlan0 output of ifconfig:21:28
ikoniadon't paste it in here21:28
SthNotTakenosTicket information: http://paste.ee/p/9oIT321:28
ikoniause a pastebin21:28
dylanm312Good idea21:29
ikoniaSthNotTaken: please don't spam21:29
Psil0CybinSthNotTaken: Haha, this channel is the real life saver...I was in ur same boat like a few months ago annoying everyone here, :P Warnings like crazy, but you learn man that is why i love Linux :D and everyone here.21:29
SthNotTakenikonia: sorry?21:29
TJ-chz: This will reinstall all the packages that install files to "/usr/share/applications/":  "sudo apt-get --reinstall install < <(dpkg -S /usr/share/applications/ | sed 's/\(.*\): .*/\1/') "21:29
ikoniaSthNotTaken: my apologies, read the wrong paste21:29
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: I spent a few hours installing "nano". It's 5:30AM here. It's less painful now and a little more 'interesting'21:30
genoobiehey all having a bit of a problem with my wireless21:33
genoobieit looks like the adapter is "up" but cannot find any networks21:33
genoobienothing blocked in rfkill21:33
blackangelprguys i am trying to fix my grub from live cd so anyone knows why  this is happening:  root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev/21:33
blackangelprmount: mount point /mnt/dev/ does not exist21:33
SthNotTakenPsil0Cybin: I installed osTicket-1.8 before according to lines 45/46 on the paste above. This is what I got afterwards: root@scrapy2:~/osTicket-1.821:34
ikoniablackangelpr: does it exist ?21:34
blackangelprikonia, seems not dont know why21:34
ikoniablackangelpr: because you've not made it21:34
SthNotTakenI'm not sure what the "~" stands for. I believe I can re-install the software in 'var/osTicket-1.8' and then try to find the .config file and add it to apache21:34
blackangelprikonia, its the original ssd ubuntu boot drive21:34
ikoniablackangelpr: yes ?21:34
dylanm312ikonia here is the pastebin of my ifconfig output21:34
dylanm312http://pastebin.com/dTTznZhb21:35
blackangelprhttp://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/installrecover-grub-from-linux-live-cd.html21:35
ikoniablackangelpr: and ?21:35
blackangelprdo 14.01 use something different ?21:35
ikoniano21:35
blackangelprhum so21:35
blackangelpr?21:35
blackangelprwhy i do not have that folders already on mnt?21:35
ikoniablackangelpr: I don't understand whats the issue ?21:35
ikoniablackangelpr: because /mnt has no directories in by default21:36
dylanm312ikonia did you see my pastebin output?21:36
ikoniablackangelpr: thats why the guide you are not following correctly tells you to make the directory21:36
ikoniadylanm312: yes, looks good21:36
dylanm312pings work fine too21:36
Felix12hola21:36
ikoniadylanm312: ping what ?21:36
dylanm312ping google.com21:36
ikoniadylanm312: so what's the issue then ?21:36
dylanm312ping is the only thing that works21:36
blackangelprFelix12, hola21:36
dylanm312everything else that needs internet just times out21:36
dylanm312also, when i do service networking restart, i get this:21:37
dylanm312stop: Unknown instance:21:37
dylanm312networking stop/waiting21:37
ikoniadylanm312: reboot your workstation, lets look at the machine from a clean boot21:37
dylanm312i already did that a million times21:38
ikoniare-read what I said21:38
dylanm312ok i can reboot it if you want me too but i already tried that21:38
ikoniathis is not to fix it - this is to look at the machine from a point where you have not been messing with it21:38
dylanm312OH clean boot right21:38
dylanm312how do you do a clean boot again?21:39
ikoniayes21:39
ikoniathats why I've just asked you to reboot21:39
dylanm312so just reboot normally or do i have to go into recovery mode or something?21:39
ikoniajust normally21:39
dylanm312ok i did that21:39
dylanm312and i logged in21:39
blackangelprikonia, even if i create it the sudo chroot /mnt     outputs root@ubuntu:/mnt# sudo chroot /mnt21:40
blackangelprchroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory21:40
ikoniaok, if you open a browser and try to see google.com - what happenes21:40
dylanm312i'm running ubuntu server21:40
ikoniablackangelpr: a.) why are you root b.) why are you using sudo with root21:40
chzTJ-:  Thank you, although I am not in Ubuntu/Debian, but you give me a solution,  I'll figure out what programs put their desktop entries in /usr/share/applications/ and then reinstall them..21:40
dylanm312so everything is cli21:40
dylanm312and i don't have a browser in it21:40
blackangelprikonia,  good question sorry i am sleepy21:40
ikoniadylanm312: so what are you trying to do21:40
dylanm312i'm trying to run apt-get update successfully21:40
ikoniablackangelpr: you're not following the guide very well - do this when you are not sleepy21:40
dylanm312and apt-get upgrade, apt-get install, etc. etc.21:41
ikoniadylanm312: what is the eror you get ?21:41
blackangelprokay i will go to sleep see you later guys21:41
dylanm312it says "Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com ([some ipv6 address]) Connecting to security.ubuntu.com ([ipv6 address])"21:42
dylanm312and it hangs21:42
dylanm312i'm sure if i left it long enough it would timeout21:42
SthNotTakenmy apt-get update gets The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:21:42
ikoniadylanm312: so you said "nothing works" - do you actually mean apt isn't working21:42
ikoniadylanm312: or do you mean other things are broken21:42
dylanm312well the networking service refuses to start21:43
k1l_SthNotTaken: which ubuntu is that?21:43
ikoniait's already started21:43
SthNotTakenk1l_: 14.0421:43
dylanm312no it isn't21:43
ikoniadylanm312: it is - that's how you're on the network21:43
dylanm312if i run service networking start i get networking stop/waiting21:43
ikoniadylanm312: if it wasn't started you wouldn't be on the network21:43
ikoniadylanm312: why ar eyou running networking start on a running service ?21:43
dylanm312even if i stop it and then start it it still says networking stop/waiting21:44
ikoniadylanm312: us.archive.ubuntu.com  has no ipv6 addresses on it21:44
ikoniadylanm312: why are you stopping/starting services for no reason21:44
dylanm312it isn't for no reason21:44
dylanm312it's because i'm trying to figure out why apt-get isn't working21:44
ikoniawhy then ?21:44
ikoniaso lets be clear21:44
dylanm312and why the networking service isn't starting21:44
dylanm312or doesn't appear to be starting21:44
ikoniathe internet "is" working - you just can't use apt-get21:44
ikoniaso you're randomly trying to stop/start /start services21:45
k1l_SthNotTaken: hmm, can you try to switch to the main servers? maybe your local mirror got some issue21:45
dylanm312ok21:45
dylanm312i see your point21:45
dylanm312so how do i go about fixing my apt-get problem21:45
SthNotTakenk1l_: W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release: ... then the words that I wrote before21:45
ikoniadylanm312: I suggest you check your dns/name servers as us.archive.ubuntu.com has no ipv6 addresses21:45
dylanm312and why does the networking service say it isn't running when it actually is21:45
ikoniadylanm312 where does the network status say it's not running ?21:46
k1l_SthNotTaken: please pastebin the whole command and output21:46
k1l_!paste | SthNotTaken21:46
ubottuSthNotTaken: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:46
rwwdylanm312: because there isn't a continuously-running process tied to that service file, it just runs all the network config stuff and then stops (and networking continues working)21:46
dylanm312oh ok21:46
dylanm312that makes sense21:46
SthNotTakenk1l_: http://paste.ee/p/mnj9i21:46
dylanm312ok my /etc/resolv.conf reads: nameserver 8.8.8.8 [newline] nameserver 8.8.4.4 [newline] nameserver 192.168.1.121:47
ikoniadylanm312: who set them to google ?21:47
dylanm312i did21:47
k1l_SthNotTaken: see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/235880/how-to-fix-gpg-in-updater21:47
rwwikonia: us.archive.ubuntu.com has three AAAA records on it.21:47
dylanm312i can take that out if you think it will help21:48
ikoniarww: yes, none of them ipv621:48
ikoniadylanm312: why did you set them to google ?21:48
rwwikonia: ?21:48
SthNotTakenk1l_: works now, thanks21:48
ikoniarww: when he does apt-get it resolves to us.archive.ubuntu.com that tries to connect (and fails) to an ipv6 address21:48
dylanm312because before i set them to google I was getting a bunch of Err: logs when i ran apt-get update and now it says connecting and hangs21:49
dylanm312idk i thought it would help21:49
rwwikonia: AAAA is for ipv6 records, and the three records are 2001:67c:1562::15 2001:67c:1562::13 and 2001:67c:1562::1421:49
ikoniarww: I get no ipv6 records at all21:49
SthNotTakenls21:49
ikoniarww: sorry, I thought you where saying there are 3 A records21:49
dylanm312so i don't know how i edited it before but now it's overwriting my changes and putting google back in21:50
rwwanyways, point being that it's reasonable for his computer to be resolving to ipv6. I suspect he doesn't, however, have working ipv6 connectivity21:50
rwwdylanm312: does ping6 ipv6.google.com work?21:50
dylanm312it says unknown host21:51
rwwwith ping6 and not ping?21:51
dylanm312yes21:51
rwwhuh.21:51
ikoniahe's on an ipv4 address with no ipv6 routing21:51
ikoniahence why I didn't understand his ipv6 resolution21:52
ikoniamy ipv4 box shows no ip6 routing, however my ip6 box does21:52
ikonia(for us.archive.ubuntu.com)21:52
ikonia(resoluion, not routing sorry)21:52
rwwsounds like broken ipv4/ipv6 dual-stack on his local machine or network21:53
rwwcould disable ipv6 completely to paper over it i guess *shrug*21:53
dylanm312how do i do that?21:54
ikoniafrom what he's said (which does contradict itself a bit) there is no ipv6 setup at all, so there should be no ipv6 setup21:54
rwwikonia: his ifconfig shows ipv6 addresses21:54
ikoniaso it does21:55
ikoniaI totally missed it21:55
ikoniagood spot21:55
rwwwhy he has Comcast globally-routable ipv6 addresses, I don't know21:55
rwwbut then I have yet to upgrade my networking kit at home to support ipv6 so...21:56
OerHeksdylanm312, is this a hosted server?21:56
dylanm312no it's at my house21:56
beaugHello21:56
rwwdylanm312: for right now, adding http://paste.ubuntu.com/8200675/ to /etc/sysctl.conf should help21:56
dylanm312i'm sitting right in front of it in fact21:56
Footyikonia I had issues recently with ipv6 routing on NTT  it seems it just broken21:57
dylanm312rww: trying that now21:57
rwwdylanm312: but in the long run you should probably take a look at your network and see what's going on with it21:57
ikoniaFooty ntt ?21:57
beaugWhere do you set time limits on idle login sessions for 14.0421:58
Footyikonia they own a bunnch of networks now,   http://www.ntt.com/index-e.html21:58
ikoniaFooty: ipv6 routing works fine here - so I don't think it's "broken"21:58
FootyI got my DC to route a different way and it worked21:58
Footyikonia  you tried a tcptracroute6 to ubuntu ?21:59
ikoniaFooty: not today no21:59
dylanm312rww: that worked, thanks so much!21:59
dylanm312wait21:59
dylanm312it *almost* worke21:59
dylanm312d21:59
ikoniaFooty: are you saying the ip6 routes to canonical mirrors are broken ?21:59
dylanm312ok now it looked like i have some kind of GPG signature problem22:00
Footythey were in one of the US providers22:00
FootyI reported it but noone seemed to care22:00
Footyso we bypassed22:00
Footyapparently been broken for over 6 months22:00
SthNotTakenmy problem so far: http://paste.ee/p/VhV3222:00
ikoniaFooty: ahh they are hosted with the one you say is broken22:00
Footyill dig out my post22:00
methodizeJust installed a VPN, how do i connect to my local server? it used to be on 192.168.1.*22:02
jhutchinsmethodize: You need to know what that last number actually is.22:03
Footyikonia: so nlayer are owned by NTT and they were the ones causing my issues22:04
ikoniaFooty: interesting22:04
Footyhttp://hastebin.com/kapewiyaze.avrasm22:04
methodizejhutchins: ah i do know, it's 7. but i've tried it and it just gives a blank page22:05
Footyikonia: do you route via nlayer too?22:05
ikoniaFooty: I don't know, I'll have to look22:05
Footyikonia: I coulg get to most of the rest of the web, like google and other places22:06
Footyikonia: didnt check the routing to start because you just kinda expect it to work, or if it doesnt its fixed in hours not weeks or months22:06
ikoniaFooty: very interesting22:07
Footyikonia: i rpeorted to nlayer, they wdidnt care as i wasnt their customer, my DC didnt care because.... not many ppl use ipv6, they actually told me to use ipv422:07
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arooni-mobilecan't write to a western digital NTFS hard drive on ubuntu 14.04;  chkdsk on windows says the drive is fine.  drive is mounted as rw: /dev/sdc1 on /media/david/HardDriveArooni type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096);  ideas on how to fix?22:11
Footyikonia: if your interested my route now goes via layer322:11
Footyarooni-mobile have you tried a reboot?22:11
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arooni-mobileFooty, of ubuntu?22:12
yshhello, i want to install ubuntu on about 10 odd machines..... what would be best way to do that....?22:12
Footyarooni-mobile: yup, I see often small disruptions to connectivity make drives RO even throuh they report RW22:12
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Footyarooni-mobile: admitadly this is most common with iscsi and fc22:13
yshPS. i m lazy to manually install on each machine22:13
Footyarooni-mobile: I always reboot as a first point of call these days22:13
arooni-mobileok ill give it a shot22:14
tobiasBoraHello !22:14
tobiasBoraI've a problem : the Bluetooth isn't recognized (I've an error "bluetooth adaptator not found. Please connect one"), do you know how I could activate it ?22:15
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beaugWhere do you set time limits on idle login sessions for 14.04,  I see no /etc/timeouts or timeoutd22:17
evil_dan2wikI need 2 things, Java runtime and libSDL1.2, how do I get these?22:21
Footywell arooni left, i hope it fixed it for him22:22
arooni-mobilecan't write to a western digital NTFS hard drive on ubuntu 14.04;  chkdsk on windows says the drive is fine.  drive is mounted as rw: /dev/sdc1 on /media/david/HardDriveArooni type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096);  ideas on how to fix?22:25
Beldararooni-mobile, Not sure how your mounting but my auto mount of a shared ntfs in fstab is this. /dev/sda3 /mnt/Windows   ntfs-3g   defaults   0   022:28
arooni-mobileBeldar, how can i change that ?  /etc/fstab?22:29
Beldararooni-mobile, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab22:29
arooni-mobileBeldar, i dont think i ever added an entry for this drive; yet i see one already listed on fstab;  is that from auto mounting?22:29
arooni-mobileor did i forget that i actually put a line there from befroe?22:30
Beldararooni-mobile, You have to add to fstab, mine is not a UUID note.22:30
beaugWhere do you set time limits on idle login sessions for 14.04,  I see no /etc/timeouts or timeoutd22:30
arooni-mobileBeldar, meaning if there is an entry already in fstab; it means a user added it (me) ; its not auto mounted?22:30
Beldararooni-mobile, fstab is an auto mount auto boot scenario, note the OS is there and your swap if you have one. You seem to not know fstab or know if you have been there, what is the end goal here?22:32
Beldarthe addition has to be correct22:32
UserUhi all22:32
arooni-mobileBeldar, the drive allows me to read from it; but i cant write to it even though its mounted as rw;  its just an external ntfs drive i use for movies/music etc22:33
arooni-mobileBeldar, the goal is to be able to write to it from ubuntu 14.0422:33
arooni-mobileBeldar, im vaguely familair with fstab;  would you recommend changing this entry for the drive?22:34
arooni-mobile   11 UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222,nosuid,nodev       0       022:34
Beldararooni-mobile, If your mount is what you have used it seems to be bad is all, not an area I know a a lot about code wise except to get it correct. If you need a detailed analysis as to why yours is not working I'm not your guy.22:35
arooni-mobileBeldar, what would i change the fstab entry to to get it working?22:35
Beldararooni-mobile, use the one I do and modify it for yours.22:36
BeldarI got it off the fstab wiki I believe22:36
running_rabbit07beaug, Settings > Brightness & Lock22:36
Beldar!fstab22:36
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions22:36
Beldararooni-mobile, should start with UUID no numbers in front unless you use /dev/sdXX22:37
arooni-mobileBeldar, should i unmount the drive first before modifying fstab?22:38
Beldararooni-mobile, I would modify and reboot and see if it is rw.22:38
arooni-mobilei have to reboot?22:39
arooni-mobilecant i just unmount and unplug the hard drive22:39
arooni-mobileand plug it back in (its a usb drive)22:39
Beldararooni-mobile, fstab is for automounting on boot basically. Even easier would be remove it from fstab and just mount when needed by plugging in or clicking it, again what is the end goal?22:40
htmli had a failed mate gui install.  http://pastebin.com/MxP8ab2R what do i do? i cant remove it or reinstall or install the .deb package.22:40
arooni-mobileBeldar, goal as i mentioned before is just letting me plug it in on occasion and copy files from my ext4 laptop to my the drive (wd ntfs usb drive)22:40
Beldararooni-mobile, Fstab mounts are not a unplug scenario, it is an auto moount, I'm not sure the command to correctly unmount.22:41
eeeearooni-mobile: you can't write cuz you set umask to 022222:41
eeeethat's r-xr-xr-x22:41
arooni-mobileeeee, can i simply remove the fstab entry?22:41
Beldararooni-mobile, Than remove the fstab notation and do a reboot and plug when needed.22:41
arooni-mobileand let it auto mount?22:41
html!mate | html22:41
eeeearooni-mobile: it won't auto-mount per say, you'd have to click it in nautilus22:42
html!mate22:42
Beldarhtml, Mate desktop?22:42
kernixhi all22:42
htmlBeldar,  yes22:42
eeeeyou could modify the umask if you wanted it to automount22:42
OerHeks!info mate-desktop22:42
ubottumate-desktop (source: mate-desktop): Library with common API for various MATE modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.2-1 (trusty), package size 17 kB, installed size 95 kB22:42
Beldarhtml, Was in 14.04's repos.22:42
arooni-mobileeeee, if i add the correct read/write fstab entry; and then plug the drive in will it auto mount?  i must i restart ubuntu for fstab changes to take affect?22:43
eeeearooni-mobile: type df , do you see it mounted?22:43
Beldararooni-mobile, No, you have just had it mounted through fstab.22:43
htmlBeldar,  i am using it on my laptop tried to install for a guide then found out i did it wrong. i had a failed mate gui install.  http://pastebin.com/MxP8ab2R what do i do? i cant remove it or reinstall or install the .deb package.22:44
arooni-mobileeeee, no i have it unmounted now;  and ive commented out my etry in fstab;22:44
OerHeksBeldar, cinamon is removed, but will be back in 14.1022:44
eeeearooni-mobile: ok22:44
eeeearooni-mobile: do you see it in nautilus?22:44
arooni-mobileeeee, one sec let me plug it back in22:44
skinuxI have python-gtk2 package installed, but Python is saying pygtk is undefined?22:45
OerHekshtml, did you use a PPA for that?22:45
Beldarhtml, Can we see your guide, always paste everything run in a terminal.22:45
arooni-mobileeeee, yes i can see it in nautilus22:45
eeeearooni-mobile: ok, just click it to mount22:46
arooni-mobileeeee, now its mounted with: /dev/sdb1 on /media/david/HardDriveArooni1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)22:46
arooni-mobileeeee, weird thing is ; its still not letting me copy to the drive via naitlous22:46
eeeewhat happens when you copy in the terminal?22:46
arooni-mobileeeee, just tested that; works flawlessly22:47
arooni-mobilehow can i copy via nautilous?22:48
eeeethat's odd22:48
htmlOerHeks,  yes and Beldar  ok22:48
eeeewhen you paste, what happens in nautilus ?22:49
arooni-mobileeeee, its greyd out22:49
eeeearooni-mobile: odd, try gksu nautilus /media22:50
arooni-mobileeeee, ok so that allows me to copy/paste22:50
arooni-mobileeeee, how can i do that without sudoing nautilus?22:51
Beldarhtml, PPA's are a support issue here, mate is in the repos, do a ppa-purge at some point.22:51
Beldar!ppa-purge | html22:51
ubottuhtml: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html22:51
kernixhey all22:51
eeeearooni-mobile: i have no idea :) ntfs isn't supposed to hold permissions in the first place!22:52
arooni-mobile eeee : take a look at this: drwxr-x---+ 4 root  root  4096 Aug 31 18:45 david .... the hard drive is located at /media/david/HardDriveArooni122:53
arooni-mobileeeee, so shouldnt i chown /media/david to be david:david ?22:53
arooni-mobilemy user name on ubuntu?22:53
eeeeyeah you could22:53
eeeebtw when you copied in the terminal, it was a root shell?22:54
eeee( just trying to add stuff up )22:54
arooni-mobileeeee, do permissions cascade in linux?  for instance if i have root:root as a parent folder and put a folder david:david inside of it;  which permission wins?22:55
arooni-mobileeeee, no just a normal terminal22:55
SchrodingersScatarooni-mobile: you can make a test directory and try that22:55
eeeearooni-mobile: no, it's only for the folder, you'll have to use -R so it is recursive22:55
htmlBeldar,  OerHeks  http://pastebin.com/FNftJQAm22:56
stoopkidcould somebody give me some advice to start me in the right direction with a project i'm working on? I haven't really done anything of this scale before22:56
eeeearooni-mobile: whoever creates the folder will be the owner22:56
deaddebAnyone know how I can have 2 parallel firefox installs and profiles? is there a firefox ppa so I can get another version?22:56
OerHekshtml, yes seen that, maybe the ppa is broken, we don't know. remove that ppa and install mate-desktop, see Beldar22:56
htmlBeldar,  how do specially purge mate ppa?22:57
arooni-mobileeeee, still stumped about why nautilus isnt letting me paste22:57
deaddebIf you want Mate-Ubuntu, there's Ubuntu-Mate https://ubuntu-mate.org/22:57
stoopkidi have about 10 slightly old computers, and i'm trying to build a data center out of them22:57
Beldarhtml, By reading the link to start with, you added the ppa.22:57
deaddebstoopkid: If they're all 64-bit clustering can be done... not much use though22:58
eeeearooni-mobile: try to mount it manually22:58
eeeearooni-mobile: press the eject button to unmount22:58
stoopkiddeaddeb why is that?22:58
eeeethen sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt22:58
deaddebstoopkid: with mixed hardware you're kinda stuck with the lowest common denominator22:58
Beldardeaddeb, You are incorrect if you want mate and are run'ning 14.04 it is in the ubuntu repos22:58
stoopkiddeaddeb: what do you mean?22:59
htmlOerHeks,  i look at some others suggestions and they say to install all the components separately   Beldar22:59
htmlOerHeks,  Beldar  yeah and i blindly at that.22:59
deaddebBeldar: true, but 14.04 isn't a complete up to date mate, the 14.10 alpha pretty much is, however 14.04 will get support soon via backports23:00
Beldarhtml, The web is full of instructions, it is your job to critically think and get good help when needed.23:00
arooni-mobileeeee, if i mount as sudo i can also copy/paste23:00
Beldardeaddeb, This is ubuntu support, not your opinion pushing platform for release not supported.23:00
htmlOerHeks,  Beldar  i was getting errors left ,right and center with  the standard ubnutu gui[ i forget the  name]23:00
arooni-mobileeeee, is there a way i can have this auto mounted to be able to copy/paste in nautilus without having to run sudo each time?23:01
arooni-mobileeeee, perhaps something i can throw in the fstab file?23:01
eeeearooni-mobile: when you mounted manually, you were able to copy/paste without gksu nautilus?23:01
deaddebBeldar: so old unstable good, new unstable bad? might as well direct people to #debian23:02
Beldarhtml, We were not there nor what you have done, if you want help you have to be exacting.23:02
arooni-mobileeeee, when i mounted with this sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/david/testdir23:02
arooni-mobileeeee, i was able to copy/paste23:02
htmlarooni-mobile,  rsynce to a create pration and have it autorun at startup?23:02
eeeeok23:02
arooni-mobileeeee, without gksu nautilus23:02
arooni-mobilehtml, but its an external usb hard drive23:03
arooni-mobilei dont always have it plugged in23:03
arooni-mobilei use a laptop23:03
Beldardeaddeb, mmm more subjective opinions, is as if you think any one really cares for yours. ;)23:03
htmlBeldar,  what ? im confused with your last statement23:03
stoopkidwell, i have several standalone desktops but then i have several extra hard-drives and more ram, and i want to get more recycled computers and just integrate them into the data-center somehow23:04
OerHekshtml, did you use this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa23:05
Beldarhtml, You have made broad statements with no details I.E. "i was getting errors left ,right and center with  the standard ubnutu gui[ i forget the  name]" this means nothing23:05
stoopkidi figured i would use linux of some form as the OS to run it, but i don't have any capital to get new computers23:06
htmlarooni-mobile,  still rsync is a possibility and i think as the felxibleness to do as you ask.  if your not good with cli then Grsync is th gui version.23:06
deaddebBeldar: Mate's devs officially support 14.10 but not 14.04. It's not opinions, it's fact.23:06
arooni-mobilehtml, i dont know how i would use rsync to appraoch this problem; doesnt it keep two directories in sync?23:06
arooni-mobilei  tried this fstab entry which restults in an auto mount when drive is inserted; but same problem no ability to paste via nautilus: UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    ntfs-3g  defaults,windows_names,locale=en_US.utf8  0 023:07
eeeearooni-mobile: what's your UID ?23:08
eeeeand GUID23:08
arooni-mobileUUID=5197956C4FE35CD0; not sure how to find GUID23:09
arooni-mobileeeee, i also tried with just ntfs;  no change23:09
arooni-mobilesame results23:09
eeeearooni-mobile: no, your uid and guid, type id23:09
htmlarooni-mobile,  yes.23:09
arooni-mobileuid=1000(david) gid=1000(david)23:10
arooni-mobileok gonna try that in the fstab23:10
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: This is a really stupid default that most distros currently have, and I haven't found anybody who can justify it.23:11
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: That will probably make it writable by your user.23:11
arooni-mobilejhutchins, which default?23:11
Beldarstoopkid, This is ubuntu support, your questions are not really within that and need a lot of help as you have no idea.23:11
arooni-mobileso this would be the line then?23:11
jhutchinsTo mount removables user read-only23:11
arooni-mobile0> 15 UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    ntfs    defaults,windows_names,locale=en_US.utf8  1000 100023:11
eeeearooni-mobile:  UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    ntfs defaults,uid=1000,rw 0 023:11
eeeeadd that, it will be writable by you23:11
arooni-mobileeeee, why not the 1000 ?23:11
arooni-mobileahyes23:12
deaddebarooni-mobile: do you have the same problem with a different FM?23:12
arooni-mobilewhat are the last 0 0 options eeee ?23:12
arooni-mobiledeaddeb, what is a FM?23:12
deaddebarooni-mobile: file manager23:12
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: This is what I use: /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,users,dmask=000,fmask=000 0 023:13
eeeearooni-mobile: the last field means fsck won't check the system23:13
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: That covers anything that udev labels sdb1.23:13
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: I believe the rw,users options cover the user writability.23:13
jhutchinsI just thought of something...23:13
arooni-mobiledeaddeb, havent uesd a different file manage23:14
arooni-mobileeeee, tried your fstab entry; same problem :\23:15
jhutchinsI think if I add the "user" option that will fix an error I get when I try to mount/umount it.23:15
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: You can just leave the last two numbers off.23:15
rootbearQuestion for you all.23:16
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: You should look at the manpage for fstab and mount.23:16
rootbearI am trying to install linux mint alongside my Ubuntu setup23:16
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Those entries determine how the system will handle fsck on startup.23:16
arooni-mobilesame problem with this one:  UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    ntfs    auto,users,uid=1000,rw 0 023:17
eeeearooni-mobile: you could add mount /dev/sdxY /media/Harddrive... to /etc/rc.local i guess, would be an ugly hack though23:17
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Since the drive presumably won't be there no option necessary.23:17
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Mine works.23:17
rootbearBut I have a problem23:17
eeeetry jhutchins'23:17
Beldar!MINT | rootbear,23:17
ubotturootbear,: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org23:17
arooni-mobileok let me copy that one23:17
deaddebrootbear: update grub so you can boot both if it does not automatically let you, no you can't share install partitions, yes you can share swap and home partitions23:17
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Adjust the device accordingly of course.23:17
rootbearRead my mind deaddeb23:18
deaddebrootbear: i'm a wizard23:18
vhjerseyya23:18
arooni-mobilejhutchins, dont i add in ntfs ?23:18
arooni-mobileinstead of auto?23:18
arooni-mobileso like: UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    auto rw,users,dmask=000,fmask=000 0 023:18
jhutchinsrootbear: For some reason it usually doesn't add other OSs on the first run in the install.23:18
rootbearMy real question was if I install dual OS do I have to download every program and duplicate all of my files etc?23:18
arooni-mobilesorry i mean: UUID=5197956C4FE35CD0   /media/david/HardDriveArooni    ntfs rw,users,dmask=000,fmask=000 0 023:18
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: auto should work for ntfs or ext.23:18
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Either should work though.23:19
rootbearIt keeps skipping the darn iso disk on boot. I even changed jumpers and bios settings.23:19
arooni-mobilewow i must have bad luck23:19
arooni-mobilenone of these fstab lines work for me23:19
arooni-mobilesometimes i love ubuntu23:20
mkanyicyarooni-mobile: i think its user not users23:20
arooni-mobiletonight is one of the times i hate it23:20
jhutchinsrootbear: Yes.  They are different operating systems and different programs.23:20
deaddebrootbear: why do you want mint? ubuntu has every desktop and package except cinnamon, there's ubuntu kde/mate/gnome/xfce/etcetc.23:20
arooni-mobileit shouldnt be so hard to connect an external usb hard drive23:20
jhutchinsrootbear: Mixing and matching usually leads to clean reinstall.23:20
mkanyicyarooni-mobile: as in rw,user,... instead of rw,users,...23:20
deaddebrootbear: ok now that's a mint problem23:20
arooni-mobilemkanyicy, thans but didnt seem to make any chagne :\23:21
rootbearI've heard a lot of good stuff.23:21
running_rabbit07deadeb rootbear there is also aa PPA for Cinnamon23:21
rootbearLive disc isn't launching23:21
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: I agree.  Making it default to read-only is just stupid.23:21
deaddebrunning_rabbit07: ah, so ubuntu has EVERYTHING mint has :P23:21
arooni-mobilei give up23:21
arooni-mobilei dont know how to make this work23:21
SthNotTakenThe instructions for what I want (osTicket) and the steps I have taken to get it. Current problem: setup doesn't work. http://paste.ee/p/BRovI23:21
rootbearUbotto23:22
jhutchinsmkanyicy: user is to allow regular users to mount, users is supposed to make it rw.23:22
arooni-mobilei guess i need a gksudo natilus23:22
running_rabbit07everything but the green deadeb23:22
arooni-mobilewhen i need to copy stuff via the nautilus system23:22
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: That's very dangerous.23:22
arooni-mobileis there another file system23:22
arooni-mobilejhattara, why23:22
arooni-mobilejhutchins, why23:22
rootbearUbboto23:22
eeeearooni-mobile: just add it to /etc/rc.local , it is equivalent to you typing sudo mount /dev/sdxY /media which worked23:22
rootbearUbotto23:22
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: You can change permissions on key files and mess up your home directrory.23:22
htmlBeldar, do i have to install ppa-pruge?23:23
jhutchinsrootbear: ubottu is a bot.23:23
rootbear! Info bots23:23
rootbear!Info bots23:23
arooni-mobileeeee, what do i add to /etc/rc.local23:23
running_rabbit07rootbear, why are yout trying to talk to the bot23:23
mkanyicyarooni-mobile: i did not get your problem, i see you want to mount something, but what's the issue?23:23
eeeearooni-mobile: mount /dev/sdxY /media/Hard...23:23
rootbearOkay. Screw it.23:23
htmlBeldar, if so it fail. this mate gui is not allowing me to install anything or remove anything.23:24
eeee( mkdir the folder first )23:24
rootbearWho knows how to install an operating system in each hard drive in a 2 hard drive sata raid?23:24
deaddebI want to have firefox stable AND beta/aurora... how? in windows/macos i simply install both, but on ubuntu all have the same package name, firefox23:24
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Apparently you're dealing with gnome's automount, which is why it's working differently,23:24
arooni-mobilemkanyicy, nautiulus wont let me write to a wd external usb hard drive;  even though the terminal will23:24
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB23:24
running_rabbit07!raid | rootbear23:25
ubotturootbear: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto23:25
rootbearOr. More specifically. Allow me to choose which I want to boot into at startup23:25
arooni-mobileeeee, will an entry in rc.local work if i already have the laptop booted up then i decide to plug in the hard drive later23:25
eeeearooni-mobile: nope23:26
mkanyicyjhutchins is that 'users' a mount option on fstab? also dmask and fmask, are they doing what umask is doing?23:26
eeeebut neither will fstab23:26
arooni-mobilewhat a mess23:26
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Please read the info on that link.23:26
running_rabbit07!grub | rootbear23:26
eeeei think23:26
ubotturootbear: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:26
rootbearSoftware raid???23:26
arooni-mobilebad job gnome auto mount23:26
jhutchinsmkanyicy: My advice was not valid for gnome automount.23:26
jhutchinsmkanyicy: I don't use gnome on that system, so...23:26
netlarI need help, Google chrome has created some kind of app called "New Tab - Google Chrome"23:26
netlarHow can I get rid of it23:26
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Yeah, but that page says exactly how to fix it.23:27
rootbearLol I can't even get chrome install to succeed23:27
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: You can even start a program when the device is mounted.23:27
eeeearooni-mobile: go to dash > disks23:27
rootbearNetlar: you are one step ahead of me23:27
running_rabbit07netlar, do you mean the little button to open a new tab?23:27
eeeearooni-mobile: select disk, press on the play button, does it mount correctly?23:27
arooni-mobilejhutchins, whats your suggestion?  im pretty tired and hungry and ive been working on this for an hour already23:27
arooni-mobilei have th epage open23:27
running_rabbit07!chrome \ rootbear23:28
ubotturunning_rabbit07: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:28
netlarrunning_rabbit07: yes, it appears to be a new app or shortcut23:28
running_rabbit07!chrome |rootbear23:28
jhutchinsrootbear: Two drives are either a single RAID array or they're seperate drives.  You might want to install two operating systems to two partitions on a raid.23:28
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB23:28
arooni-mobileeeee,  id ont know how to acces the disk23:29
arooni-mobileyou mean the start menu ubuntu dash?23:29
running_rabbit07If it is in the browser, then it is supposed to be there23:29
arooni-mobilejhutchins, id rather not hunt through the whole doc;  what specifically should i change23:29
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Step by step instructions - you can either print it off and check off the steps.23:29
eeeearooni-mobile: yeah23:29
running_rabbit07If it is in the browser, then it is supposed to be there netlar23:29
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Just read it.  It's right at the top.23:29
Beldarnetlar, https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2918032?hl=en23:29
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: I gotta go start the grill.23:29
rootbearDrive 1 my Ubuntu lts. Not looking to mess that up. Drive two is junk files. Nothing I need. I know if I just unplug the sata cable I'll install to the second drive. But then my boot order is just preset to run drive 1 like a "master" Aka read first.23:30
arooni-mobilejhutchins, its not clear to me what you solution is23:30
arooni-mobilei wish you wouldnt make me feel like i'm trying to solve a riddle23:30
netlarBeldar: That is not what is happening23:31
rootbearI just finished bratwurst and beer dinner23:31
Beldarnetlar, Heaven forbid you actually describe it than eh, I looked up your description.23:31
netlarI will try to take a screenshot23:32
Beldarnetlar, I don't use chrome so give it to the channel is all.23:33
running_rabbit07netlar, is it the little button beside the current tab?23:33
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rootbearNever mind. I guess community help is harder than google23:34
eeeearooni-mobile: did u try disks?23:35
arooni-mobileeeee, i dont know how to access it23:35
eeeego to the dash and type disks23:35
chucknorris88any brave souls out there that can help me with enabling mkdir access for a non-home location in VSFTPD? I currently have writing enabled, local_enabled and have specified a new local root directory23:36
NIcKxhey23:37
arooni-mobileoh look23:37
arooni-mobileits a bug23:37
arooni-mobilehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/102137523:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1021375 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus says the USB stick is read only when it is not" [High,Confirmed]23:37
Loshki"<rootear> Never mind. I guess community help is harder than google" -- quote of the weekend, I believe.23:37
arooni-mobileeeee, what shoulod i do with in23:38
eeeedisks ?23:38
chucknorris88anyone out there that can help with a VSFTPD permissions issue?23:39
netlarOk, how do you send links to screenshots to irc23:39
eeeepress the play button see if it mounts correctly23:39
arooni-mobileeeee, its a recognized bug in nautilus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/102137523:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1021375 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus says the USB stick is read only when it is not" [High,Confirmed]23:39
eeeearooni-mobile: yeah, reading it now23:39
arooni-mobilei wish there was a faster way to know if youre wasting your time because theres already an existing bug23:39
Loshkiarooni-mobile: if you drop to the command line, that is apparently an effective workaround. A slight learning curve for you...23:40
arooni-mobileeeee, like for isntance i wouldnt have wasted time if i knew it was a bug in ubuntu;  maybe i should search the bug database23:40
eeeearooni-mobile: it's all good23:40
arooni-mobileLoshki, right;  if you run the mount command on the terminal; but thats incredibly annoying for a usb hard drive that youre plugging/unplugging all the time23:40
NIcKxif you're using ubuntu and is new to everything here, what would anybody recommend?23:41
eeeearooni-mobile: something must run when a usb is inserted23:41
eeeei guess you could put a script there to automount23:41
arooni-mobileeeee, its called 'make davids life terrrible' program23:42
arooni-mobilethats what runs when a usb is inserted23:42
Loshkiarooni-mobile: annoying is relative. Compared to waiting for someone to deploy a fix, or patching it yourself, what options do you have?23:42
NIcKxexit23:42
arooni-mobileLoshki, cry about it in the #ubuntu channel?23:42
netlarHow can I send screenshots here?23:42
arooni-mobileor switch to windows23:42
arooni-mobile#1 is easier23:42
expungenetlar: http://imgur.com/23:43
netlarthanks23:43
netlarI seem to have a problem with Google Chrome, it has two apps now http://imgur.com/TmzbQ9623:44
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Did you look at those instructions?23:44
arooni-mobilejhutchins, what would you have me do?  change the program for autolaunch of a usb device?  with the mount command?23:45
netlarIt almost looks like the "New Tab Google Chrome" is a shortcut23:45
eeeearooni-mobile: disks23:46
netlarBut I am not sure how to get rid of it23:46
expungewhy exactly does it bother you?23:46
netlarexpunge: Me?23:47
expungeyeah23:47
arooni-mobileeeee, and do auto mount?23:47
eeeearooni-mobile: i think you've messed with disks yourself, and that's how the fstab entry ended there23:47
eeeearooni-mobile: is it set to off ?23:47
netlarBecause when I open up just the Google Chrome one, it opens up the other one and only in Ingonito mode23:47
netlarShould not do that23:48
arooni-mobileeeee,  i treid w/ and w/o auto mount23:48
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Sorry, it's not as explicit as I thought it was.  See the section labeled "User Privileges", and you might check "Preferences" right below that.23:48
netlarNo ideas, why there is this additional app shortcut for Chrome?23:48
eeeearooni-mobile: before now ?23:48
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arooni-mobileeeee, eh one second23:49
arooni-mobileeeee,  i never tried the disks stuff you mentioned23:49
eeeearooni-mobile: oh ok, cause that would add to fstab23:49
eeeewhat are the options you have23:49
jhutchinsarooni-mobile: Also (FS_MOUNTOPTIONS) in /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf - the wrong gid there can cause read-only mounts.23:49
_unreal_is any one big on making post's for howto's for ubuntu?23:49
arooni-mobilejhutchins, did you see the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/102137523:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1021375 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus says the USB stick is read only when it is not" [High,Confirmed]23:50
havarkanetlar try to reinstall it23:50
arooni-mobileim not alone23:50
netlarhavarka: I uninstalled it, but the "New Tab Google Chrome" was still there23:51
netlarhavarka: Then I reinstalled Chrome and "New Tab Google Chrome" was still there]23:51
eeeearooni-mobile: cat /etc/issue please23:52
havarkanetlar did you do it with remove or with purge?23:52
expungenetlar: something about incognito mode?23:52
arooni-mobileUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l23:52
netlarhavarka: with synapic , uninstall23:53
eeeesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade23:53
havarkado it throught command line with purge23:53
eeeemaybe it'll work23:53
netlarhavarka: What is the command for purge23:53
havarkasudo apt-get purge23:54
arooni-mobilejhutchins, i dont see how to follow the insrction on ubuntu 14.04;  there is no setting in control pannels23:54
_unreal_lol purge23:54
eeeearooni-mobile: try this23:54
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_unreal_arooni-mobile, what is the issue?23:55
eeeearooni-mobile:  mv ~/.config/nautilus ~/.config/nautilus.backup23:55
eeeearooni-mobile: logout and login and see if it works23:55
netlarhavarka: The "New Tab Google Chrome" is still showing up23:55
arooni-mobileeeee, ok ill give it a shot23:57
netlarAnd I cannot find out where on the system that is23:57
netlarhavarka: But when I click on the "New Tab Google Chrome" app icon nothing opens up23:57
djtanseyI have a question about dm-cache -- does it require you use the whole ssd for cache or can you use one partition?23:58

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