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| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8203827/ I totally wrote a control parser \o/ | 07:22 |
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| valorie | apachelogger: thanks so much for trying to patch up my old laptop | 07:34 |
| valorie | just finished a response | 07:34 |
| valorie | damn, now it doesn't want to shut down | 07:37 |
| valorie | "In -65 seconds" | 07:37 |
| valorie | :( | 07:39 |
| valorie | the only two choices from the kmenu are log out and lock | 07:40 |
| valorie | cli works of course | 07:40 |
| valorie | hmmm, but it hasn't quit | 07:42 |
| valorie | oh, well | 07:42 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:48 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: regression, iso does again not respect "noninteractive" and "maybe-ubiquity" | 09:53 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: since I have not tested everyday I cannot say when this was introduced again, I know for sure the iso from aug, 29 was affected too | 09:54 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: all i know is that the iso from aug, 27 worked fine, I think the one from 28 too, but not sure | 09:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | kdeuser56: I'll take a look later on | 10:13 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: thx | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | also, noninteractive and maybe-ubiquity go together? | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | because I know about maybe-ubiquity, tried a fix, didn't work | 10:14 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: i tested them individually | 10:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | what is noninteractive supposed to do? | 10:14 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: they worked fine individually on aug 27 | 10:14 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: noninteractive starts ubiquity on a vt without x | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | maybe-ubiquity might have bought up ubiquity-dm, but you couldn't login | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | so no, it did not work | 10:15 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: what did not work? | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | login | 10:15 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: when? | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | "Try Kubuntu" did not login | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | ever | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | anyway | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | it's on my todo to fix | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | so yeah | 10:16 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: oh I am not sure I tested that | 10:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | :p | 10:16 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: but what I know for sure is that bother noninteractive and maybe-ubiquity worked find individually on aug 27, as I wrote you in the confirmation mail | 10:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | again, maybe-ubiquity only partially worked | 10:17 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: what I mean by worked is, that it was invoked | 10:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | right | 10:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | I know, I kind of fixed it :) | 10:17 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: so you deliberately disabled respecting the ubiquity commands as a workaround for the login problem? | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer_ | yes, I did not want a beta 1 that wouldn't login out of the box | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | plus, it was that way before as wekll | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | *well | 10:21 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: ah okay, so it seems what you disabled disabled noninteractive too | 10:21 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: any plan to reintroduce it as soon as the login works with maybe-ubiquity? | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | don't think so | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | ( re non interactive ) | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | kdeuser56: yep | 10:22 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: but somehow it stopped working when maybe-ubiquity stopped working ... | 10:23 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: anyway, why don't we do it like ubuntu? two grub entries: one live session, one install ubuntu | 10:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | dunno, you'd have to ask Colin | 10:24 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: so how exactly did you disable maybe-ubiquity from working? you could have simply changed the default boot command line | 10:26 |
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| kdeuser56 | to not include "maybe-ubiquity" | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | I think the command line might be shared across flavors | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | *boot command | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | but I do not for sure | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | *do not know for sure | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity/plasma5/+merge/228528 | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer_ | reverted that | 10:27 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: so this change was for sure in the plasma5 iso on aug 27? | 10:30 |
| kdeuser56 | (before reverting it)? | 10:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | yes | 10:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/2.19.3 | 10:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:01:20 +0200 | 10:31 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: okay, and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sddm/revision/40 is still in? | 10:31 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: yeah must be because text works ... | 10:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | yep | 10:32 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: okay than the revert must have broken it, unless another change was made in that area after aug 27 | 10:32 |
| kdeuser56 | shadeslayer_: the options work fine on the latest kubuntu-utopic kde4 version | 10:33 |
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| shadeslayer_ | *shrug* | 10:57 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer_: kdesu(5) needs debian alternative support added so that kdesudo can hijack it :: kmix(4) apparently does not autostart in plasma(5) :: starting synaptic from menu apparently doesn't work (which might or might not be related to kdesu) | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | please have a look | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/183715491/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kcoreaddons_5.1.0%2Bgit20140901.1414~0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | this I just don't get | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | and it only appears to fail on amd64 Oo | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | ah no, i386 was still building when jenkins aborted | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | smart thing | 12:34 |
| Riddell | buenos tardes | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: hola | 12:35 |
| sgclark | hi | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: note highlight from earlier | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | bbiab | 12:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: kdesu alternate? gotit | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:48 |
| soee | wrr, what was the cmd do upgrade 14.04 to 14.10 ? | 13:14 |
| BluesKaj | sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 13:15 |
| soee | BluesKaj: thank you | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | java is really very shitty | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | soee, yw | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | or maybe it's java devs | 13:17 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm glad you won't be complaining about python any more :) | 13:17 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion libindi 0.9.8 | 13:17 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion libindi 0.9.9 | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | java being shitty doesn't make python less shitty | 13:17 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1364005 | 13:17 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1364006 | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | like foo = foo() will make foo() the variable but you can't do def foo: | 13:18 |
| Riddell | all of this pales into insignificance compared to the weirdness of JavaScript | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | https://svn.jenkins-ci.org/trunk/hudson/plugins/log-parser/src/main/java/hudson/plugins/logparser/ParserRuleFile.java <- "I don't always make classes that aren't really classes, but when I do I make sure they are especially pointless" | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how's javascript weird? | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | not that I disagree, I just haven't noticed yet :P | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | it also suffers from the inconsistent enforcing of braces as a matter of fact ;) | 13:24 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it has no classes but it still likes to have a new operator? | 13:24 |
| Riddell | it tried to add semicolons where it feels they're needed | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | well, it has prototypes | 13:24 |
| Riddell | it tries to add vars where it feels they're needed | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | huh Oo | 13:25 |
| Riddell | it has global namespace for variables! | 13:25 |
| Riddell | it has a weird == operator and a slightly more useful === operator | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | oh === is indeed silly xD | 13:25 |
| Riddell | nice e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/pmtnvsrzc | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | I DONT ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPITALS BUT WHEN I DO I WRITE LONG MAILS | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I feel like we might need to revise workspace deps | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | I just did a t1+workspace build from my local jenkins and it is entirely bottlenecked on plasma-framework | 13:27 |
| Riddell | well a lot of plasma stuff does depend on plasma-framework so I think that'll always be a bottleneck | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | I have khotkeys blocked on it though | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | khotkeys probably doesn't use it | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | ksysguard as well | 13:29 |
| Riddell | plasma-framework should not really have been a framework | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: yeah I know I know | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | bunch of things broken | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | fixing them all | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: muchos important right now :P | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: also, u upgrading server? | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: which ones? kdesu? | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: doing now | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: all of them, mission critical for us | 13:30 |
| Riddell | khotkeys CMakeLists.txt says it needs plasma-framework so I assume it knows what it's doing | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | should I just run do-release-upgrade and see what breaks? :p | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: perhaps upstream needs to detangle some stuff as well | 13:31 |
| * apachelogger looks for a way to prevent recursive build triggers | 13:31 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: there's a simulation mode | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | -s I think | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: yeah using that :) | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | Sandbox setup failed | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | alas, you'll likely need to reboot the server afterwards because umount never worked for me in simulation | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | xD | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | screwed up the apt cache | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: ah yes, rubbish software :P | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah | 13:32 |
| * apachelogger also couldn't be bothered into making it more robust | 13:32 | |
| apachelogger | there's a bunch of ways the sandboxing can fail for the most silly reasons | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | (it always fails for me as long as my uefi partition is mounted ^^) | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | hm | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: ah well | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: I did a dist-upgrade earlier, maybe reboot and just run the update | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | oh | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | I am really not very sure how to integrate our build log parsing into jenkins without too much work | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_, yofel_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8206476/ dir structure for jenkins, any thoughts? | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: can't think of anything wrong about it from the top of my head | 13:58 |
| Riddell | yofel_: what's the usual practice to verify an upate of kde-workspace? bug 1353973 needs it | 13:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1353973 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update kde-workspace to 4.11.11" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1353973 | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | I am yet unsure how to reliably do dependency tracking | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | ultimately the build job itself would update the directly related projects, but that still makes dep tracking off-by-one as far as jenkins is concenred | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: oh oh regarding synaptic | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | I think that's a bug in klauncher stuff | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | and also in the synaptic-kde.desktop file | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | I was investigating that before randa | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | maybe we can sit down and figure it out at Akademy | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | oh | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | synaptic-kde | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | I am 99% certain it's kdesu then :P | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | no no | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | it's a path issue sort of | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | synaptic is in /usr/sbin and PATH doesn't have that | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | or something along those lines | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | PATH didn't have that because of sddm? :P | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | ( it should have been fixed btw ) | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | yes | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | at any rate even if there is a path issue ... kdesuid would break it as that would go through kdesu | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | kinda | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | the gtk version is using pkexec | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | I think ours should too | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | in fact | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | no | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | why not? | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | Exec=synaptic | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | yes | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | that's the question/bug | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | u not listening :P | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | that will make the exec run through kdesu | 14:05 |
| yofel_ | Riddell: same as the rest of the sc usually... install and try some of the main features | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | and I am arguing that it probably should use pkexec like the regular desktop file | 14:05 |
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| apachelogger | and ultimately perhaps X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true should be changed entirely to pkexec | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | hm | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | not sure there's much difference to be had | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | oh, I think kdesudo at least will preserve relevant parts of the env | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | so there's that | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | anywho | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | it's probably broken because of kdesu :P | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: but X-KDE-SubstituteUID doesn't work, is that because of update alternatives? | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: that's what I am thinking | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | hm | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | i.e. it would try to launch kdesu | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: running pkexec synaptic does the right thing though | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | and that won't work well | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | brings up a auth dialog on neon | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: yeah, as it should | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: perhaps file a bug against synaptic | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | to drop the kde desktop file and use pkexec instead | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | yes | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | would make the most sense tbh | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | kdesu still needs to be fixed tho ^^ | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer_ | IDK why there's a separate kde desktop file | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | Spent an hour waiting for plasma-framework to build, we are giving up now. | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 14:07 |
| yofel | apachelogger: wrt dir structure: why is bzr not cached? Otherwise no complaints | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | there's a bug in my python script and there's weird scheduling on lunchpad | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | yofel: because each branch would constitute a different remote url/repo and as such there is no advantage to be had from caching them globally | 14:09 |
| yofel | k | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | with git you have one upstream unstable unit that can be shared for multiple ubuntu series | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | (in neon we actually cache bzr as well, doesn't give us anything though ^^) | 14:10 |
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| Riddell | anyone on trusty still? | 14:55 |
| Riddell | !testers | test kde-workspace 4.11.11 in -proposed on trusty - bug 1353973 | 14:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1353973 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update kde-workspace to 4.11.11" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1353973 | 14:56 |
| ubottu | test kde-workspace 4.11.11 in -proposed on trusty - bug 1353973: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket for information | 14:56 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, add proposed to the sources.list ? | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | oops, forgot that i dumped trusty | 14:59 |
| Riddell | yeah that's needed :) | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | does anyone know why we need this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/kdoctools/view/head:/debian/patches/missing-all-l10n.xml.diff | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | it's not cool that we have patches that have a) not been forwarded upstream and b) Have no dep 3 headers | 15:13 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer_: I suspect that's a temporary patch that can be droped | 15:14 |
| Riddell | sgclark did it I think | 15:14 |
| Riddell | (but she's travelling to akademy now) | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | well, all-l10n.xml is still empty | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer_ | so it should be really reported upstream | 15:18 |
| Riddell | hmm, I remember it having some discussions upsteram but I'm not sure what sorry | 15:20 |
| Riddell | didn't the patch come from upstream? | 15:21 |
| Riddell | ooh sgclark | 15:21 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer_ is wondering about the origin and destination of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/kdoctools/view/head:/debian/patches/missing-all-l10n.xml.diff ? | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: if it came from upstream it should have dep 3 headera | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | *headers | 15:23 |
| Riddell | it /should/ have dep3 headers regardless, but I often find myself forgetting | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | My computer has frozen | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | Hurray | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: yeah, I will write a compliance checker | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | Nag people via email | 15:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that was a long time ago pre knowing about dep 3, anyway at the time it would not compile without it, not sure about now | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer_ | It compiles | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | But empty file | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | Anyway | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | The way to fix this is nagging people | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | With autochecjs | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | And autoremoving patches after 2-3 weeks if they do not have dep3 | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer_ | Will figure out how to do that tomorrow | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | write jenkins job | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | :) | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: yeah that was the plan :p | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | have fun with java :P | 15:28 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: as long as you fix the resulting bugs. | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | ScottK: not my fault that the author did not write dep3 headers, because people always forget what a patch is for | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | and then we keep it around because we fear shit might break | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer_ | and then it lingers on and on till the end of time | 15:29 |
| sgclark | As I said that was from back when I first started and did not know, good grief | 15:29 |
| * apachelogger notes that there's should be a monthly nag about patches that say Forwarded: no and Forwarded: not-needed | 15:29 | |
| * sgclark goes back to packing | 15:29 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Some predate the DEP. | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer_ | ScottK: this is exclusively for frameworks | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | I'm not too concerned about KDE4 | 15:30 |
| ScottK | OK | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | sgclark: I'm not singling you out | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | sgclark: we've all done this | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | so I really want some automated checks for this | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | because we're all human and we will forget about patches | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | it's simply not possible for us to keep track of all the patches in our head | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | or atleast not for me | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | dunno about you guys | 15:31 |
| sgclark | I am sure I have alot of pre dep 3 patches out therre as I was only told recently | 15:35 |
| sgclark | and no I don't know where they are | 15:36 |
| sgclark | anyway my long journey to akadamy begins today so I am not going to be much help sorry :( | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | sgclark: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | for future reference | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | sgclark: have a uneventful trip :) | 15:38 |
| sgclark | Thank you shadeslayer_ bookmarked that to fix at another time | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer_ | yw | 15:39 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer_: add it to qa.kubuntu.co.uk if you think it's useful | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: yeah, need to setup a cron job | 15:45 |
| Riddell | but they're all kde 4 bits so unlikely they'll be changed | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: yeah, I'm running it again | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer_ | for some reason the kf5 bits are not there in that file | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer_ | At least 4 queries/external actions issued in 0.11 seconds OOPS-6d4f0a3853980a04267cc30344e3215a | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | alrighty, I have to go | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | cya tomorrow | 16:15 |
| Riddell | hi ahoneybun, hi vgezer | 16:50 |
| ahoneybun | hey Riddell | 16:50 |
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