[03:22] <Ahmuck> hi.  found my problem with gnucash.  it was in fact related to the input method.  if i do ¨ibus exit¨ the problem goes away.
[03:23] <Ahmuck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash/+bug/1306500
[03:26] <Ahmuck> curious.  some time years ago there was much ado in the linux community about propierty software that took forever to get patched and whenever the vendor chose to patch it.  the argument always was that linux was always better at responding to bug fixing.  has the linux user base grown so large and the dev base smaller such that it´s not possible to work through long standing bugs?
[03:34] <wxl> Ahmuck: this is not necessarily a support question. might want to head over to #lubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <Ahmuck> wxl, i´m about ready to justify the comment as a support issue ... currently reading through a forum where /etc/default/keyboard issues and ibus issues (several forums) have been exisiting since April 2014.  isn´t the keyboard one considered one of the primary pieces of hardware today?  or has everyone else gone to glass touchscreens (maybe i´m to old fashioned
[03:41] <wxl> Ahmuck: long story short, it's not a linux development issue, nor an open source development issue. it's an ibus development issue. i have found their support to be rather poor. it's not a keyboard issue, technically, it's a input method issue, i.e. ibus. there are other input methods out there. xubuntu nixed ibus because of problems with it. lubuntu may follow suit.
[03:42] <Ahmuck> is ibus the default for lubuntu?
[03:43] <Ahmuck> ah, i see.  yes, imho i might suggest nixing it as well.  the more reading ido the more issues i am seeing.  keyboard, mouse, monitor, hard drive, memory, mobo are all essential componets of the pc.  everything else can wait i would imagine.
[03:44] <Ahmuck> if i dump ibus do i loose my keyboard?
[03:44] <wxl> again, it's not a keyboard issue.
[03:44] <wxl> ibus is not a keyboard driver
[03:44] <Ahmuck> sorry, keymap
[03:44] <Ahmuck> ya, but it´s affecting my keyboard input.
[03:44] <wxl> if you don't use any different input methods, you're fine.
[03:44] <wxl> try `sudo service ibus stop` and see what happens
[03:45] <Ahmuck> i use us international with alt ger
[03:45] <Ahmuck> i´ve used ibus exit but i´m not really looking to do that all the time
[03:45] <Ahmuck> every time
[03:45] <wxl> can you use everything normally after exiting ibus?
[03:45] <Ahmuck> i´ll figure it out.  i´d rather not enrage anybody in support for support
[03:46] <Ahmuck> i can use the apps i need to after exiting ibus yes.
[03:46] <Ahmuck> normally
[03:46] <wxl> then just uninstall ibus. problem solved.
[03:47] <Ahmuck> i´m going to step away from the chat room for a sec and do some reading.  i may use some type of diagram to try and understand how lubuntu is set up with keyboard and keymaps.  it seems there are three different menu options for manageing the input/keyboard as well as /etc/default/keyboard
[03:48] <Ahmuck> to many options and i don´t understand everything that is going on with the keymaps yet.  going to try to find some documentation that makes sense
[03:48] <wxl> just remember that ibus = input method ≠ keyboard
[04:19] <Ahmuck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard
[04:19] <Ahmuck> You can connect keyboards with different keyboard layout, but you ha
[04:20] <Ahmuck> this should read "with a different keyboard layout" or "with different keyboard layouts"
[04:48] <wxl> man dpkg
[04:48] <wxl> oooooooops
[04:49] <Ahmuck> ibus is causing me to require a hard reboot
[04:49] <wxl> not if you uninstall it.
[04:49] <wxl> you can always put it back.
[04:49] <Ahmuck> i've purged it already but what input method is availble?
[04:50] <wxl> if you don't need it, why do you want it? :)
[04:50] <Ahmuck> i can switch keyboard to spanish but don't know the spanish keyboard
[04:50] <Ahmuck> i do need accents
[04:50] <Ahmuck> 'a ~n, etc.
[04:50] <wxl> add a compose key
[04:50] <Ahmuck> before i was using us keyboard international with dead keys
[04:50] <Ahmuck> using alt gr as i have in mexico
[04:51] <Ahmuck> a compose key?
[04:51] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[04:51] <Ahmuck> i'd recommend dumping ibus until they get thier stuff fixed.  it appears it's a problem.
[04:55] <Ahmuck> that documentation does not match my menu
[05:03] <Ahmuck> (leafpad:2734): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/user/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[05:04] <Ahmuck> sudo leafpad /etc/default/keyboard
[05:04] <wxl> did you stop the service?
[05:05] <Ahmuck> so i purged ibus using "sudo aptitude purge ibus" but now am getting a warning about ibus.  are the configs still there?
[05:05] <Ahmuck> i've rebooted out of necesatiy because ibus was hard locking the desktop
[05:05] <Ahmuck> ibus exit
[05:05] <Ahmuck> oops
[05:12] <Ahmuck> do you know if lubuntu went from gti to qt?
[05:12] <Ahmuck> gtk
[05:12] <Ahmuck> in 14.04
[05:12] <Ahmuck> it appears this is a 14.04 bug.  after upgrading to 14.04 the keyboard becomes unusable with some applications
[05:13] <Ahmuck> er, an upgrade from 13.x to 14.04
[05:16] <Ahmuck> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=360388
[05:21] <Ahmuck> no workie
[05:22] <Ahmuck> with compose key
[05:22] <Ahmuck> 'a
[05:24] <Ahmuck> got it
[05:24] <Ahmuck> takes a reboot not a logout as suggested
[05:27] <Ahmuck> wxl: who does user interfaces for lubuntu?
[05:27] <Ahmuck> who designs the layout, etc.
[05:47] <Ahmuck> vlc did something real nice for users.  they created a "simple layout and and advanced option layout
[05:49] <Ahmuck> looking at preferences and system tools, while i understand that there are different tools for different things, using the KISS principle would simply the menu and help users.  for example, there appears to be 4 different package manager options on the two menus
[05:49] <Ahmuck> three different keyboard options
[05:49] <Ahmuck> etc.
[05:51] <Ahmuck> i recall way back when (it mattered to me) that often when i would run into a problem with package it was my responsiblity to go to the package channel and work with them.  for the keyboard using the KISS principle (would xim be default?), it would seem before using a buggy package to use
[05:51] <Ahmuck> something by default, one good one with compose one and an interface to work with the options
[05:52] <Ahmuck> two different network options across two menus, etc.
[05:52] <Ahmuck> anywho, life is short, and i'm off to do other things.  thx 4 the links
[12:09] <redemption> hello all
[12:11] <redemption> where can i change the text of context menu in desktop?
[12:11] <redemption> some text are in english and others in french
[12:14] <switchtehbeat> Lubuntu 14.04.01 install on all my systems. netbook, i7 laptop and i7 desktop. yay me! :)
[12:34] <redemption38> hi
[12:46] <GreenDragon> #ubuntu
[12:46] <GreenDragon> Hi
[12:46] <GreenDragon> I need help.
[12:46] <GreenDragon> I need to set a program as default browser
[12:46] <GreenDragon> how should I do it
[12:48] <GreenDragon> I've tried the normal manner but it has been ineffective
[14:14] <switchtehbeat> In Ubuntu, you can click system and click "about me" to see what GFX and cpu you're running, can this be done with Lubuntu?
[14:14] <switchtehbeat> sorry if it's been asked before....
[14:20] <switchtehbeat> system profiler and benchmarks is it correct?
[14:26] <phillw> switchtehbeat: should be...
[14:27] <phillw> switchtehbeat: if you want greater details of you machine, head to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware
[14:28] <phillw> switchtehbeat: that will strip your computer naked and check every part of it.... (Think Doctor's exam :P )
[14:32] <switchtehbeat> lol thanks m8
[14:49] <Ahmuck> hi.  xfce power manager is showing two icons in the systray  is this a result of a recent update?
[14:58] <Ahmuck> is a bounty option an available incentive for fixing the preferences / system tools / system tray / panel items issues
[15:10] <holstein> Ahmuck: i had 2.. it was due to me adding one manually before the fix came in
[15:11] <holstein> Ahmuck: sorry, this is not a "bounty" situation.. its likely only "broken" on your specific setup now
[15:17] <holstein> Ahmuck: will you look in autostart and see if you have added anything for the power manager?
[17:40] <Ahmuck> holstein, the problem is, double icons have appeared after a fresh vanilla install of lubuntu
[17:40] <Ahmuck> so it's not something i could have added.
[22:15] <Kassadin> Hello, can anyone help me install Lubuntu to a secondary hard disk? I plugged the new drive into an available IDE cable but I am not sure how to do the install from the LiveDVD. The primary hard drive already has lubuntu.
[23:04] <holstein> !install | Kassadin
[23:05] <holstein> Kassadin: really depends on what you are wanting.. not sure why you want lubuntu on the 2nd drive if its already on the 1st drive, but, just boot installation media and install
[23:06] <holstein> you may want to just add the hard drive to your existing system https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[23:07] <holstein> or, you may want to install to both drives, and need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair afterwards to sort out the boot loader
[23:31] <Kassadin> holstein: The second one is for a friend's computer. When I run the livedvd and click "something else" for the install, only the primary drive shows up/
[23:52] <holstein> Kassadin: then, i would look at the bios.. see that the actual hardware is picking up the hard drive.. i would then boot the live CD to the desktop and try and see the drive in gparted, and manually partition it there