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seb128good morning desktopers!07:10
didrocksre seb12807:11
seb128lut didrocks ;-)07:11
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pittibonjour seb128 ! as-tu eu un bon w.e./07:49
pitti?07:49
seb128pitti, salut, oui, très bon ! et toi ?07:50
pittiseb128: ici aussi; ma sœur, "in-law", niece, et neveu nous ont visité hier, c'était bon07:51
seb128pitti, in-law = belle-famille in french07:52
seb128sister-in-law = belle-soeur, brother-in-law=beau-frère07:52
pittiseb128: ah, beau-frère :)07:53
seb128pitti, dimanche en famille, c'est bien :-)07:53
pittiseb128: le lesson de famille manque ce mot :)07:53
seb128hehe07:53
pittije seulment fais duolingo à les week-ends07:54
didrocksseb128: do you think you will have time to test udtc today (before the official announce, tomorrow)?08:01
seb128didrocks, can do, sure08:01
didrocksthanks :)08:02
* didrocks tries on amd64 utopic and trusty08:02
NoskcajCould someone please review my gnome-menus merge?08:06
Noskcajhttps://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/gnome-menus/3.13/+merge/23163308:16
seb128Noskcaj, hi?08:19
Noskcajhey seb12808:20
seb128Noskcaj, what about that url?08:20
Noskcaji linked it 10 mins after asking for a review08:20
NoskcajBugfix only stuff08:20
seb128oh08:20
seb128well, it should be in the sponsoring queue08:20
seb128I'm also unsure about taking from an unstable serie08:21
seb128it might that 3.13.4 has api/abi changes and that we get stucked on an unstable version if we don't want those this cycle08:21
seb128looking to the git log, there doesn't seem be much we need/a strong motivation for that update08:22
seb128it's basically the revert we distro patched and some small fixes08:23
didrocksappmenu seems to not be working with scale mode in virtualbox08:26
seb128scale, like the hidpi factor from unity?08:28
didrocksno, from the virtualbox guest08:28
* didrocks dives a little bit into it08:28
seb128k08:28
xnoxhm, my laptop really does not believe that it has display port =(08:31
Noskcajseb128, ok08:31
xnoxcan't connect my external monitor.08:31
xnoxand morning everyone =)08:32
seb128hey xnox08:32
seb128how are you?08:32
didrocksmorning xnox!08:32
xnoxseb128: morning. Good good =)08:32
xnoxseb128: didrocks: dell xps 13 (the one that is preinstalled with 12.04.1) really does not fly that well with 14.04 LTS =)08:33
xnoxi guess it's in my hands to fix some of that.08:33
seb128xnox, oh? what's the issue?08:33
seb128xnox, I'm thinking about getting one of those08:33
xnoxseb128: it does not believe that it has a mini display port (xrandr says nothing), compiz goes 140% cpu if google chrome plays any adobe flash, the rest is fine.08:34
xnoxtouchscreen works, bluetooth works, et.al.08:34
seb128k08:34
seb128small issues for my usecase08:34
xnoxso minor. does ara's team test display ports?08:34
seb128the display port issue is a bit weird08:35
seb128isn't that all intel hardware for the video?08:35
xnoxyeap, haswell graphics & cpu08:36
xnoxi've tried Intel OTC driver stack as well, no dice.08:36
seb128weird08:36
xnoxoh and I have to boot with "nomodeset" on the kernel command line, otherwise no graphics come up at all.08:36
xnoxi wonder if it's time to upgrade to 14.10 =/08:38
seb128xnox, if 14.04 has bugs supporting that hwd it would be nice to have those fixed in the lts08:41
xnoxtrue.08:41
* xnox ponders if the recovery usb I made is bootable into live cd mode at all.08:41
xnoxthat would help validate if special sauce binaries are at fault for fixing this.08:42
xnoxok, will be back later. see ya08:43
xnoxseb128: good news, purging 01.org drivers, downgrading various local things to trusty-updates, getting latest trusty-updates x stack and kernel, got everything back to good. I have display port working as well as booting normally without nomodeset.09:30
xnoxlife is wonderful with large external screen now =)09:30
seb128xnox, downgrading ... can you try upgrading again to see if there is a regression in some proposed version?09:30
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larsuTrevinho_: hey, what's the state of your frame extents patch? When will we get it in unity?11:05
willcookeafternoon all11:20
* willcooke is back from Speed Awareness training :/11:20
ogra_now you know that speed exists ?11:23
willcookeogra_, :)11:26
willcookeI think that might have been part of the problem11:26
ogra_tell, them speed is finite anyway ... cant exceed light ;)11:26
didrocksafternoon speedy (SPDY or http2.0) willcooke!11:38
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Trevinho_larsu: Yes I'm proposing the patch I did long time ago to, just nkwt12:58
Trevinho_Now12:58
larsucool, thanks!13:03
didrocksTrevinho_: hey, I think there is an Unity regression on utopic about adding launcher icon14:57
didrocksTrevinho_: I just change the settings key for the launcher icons, add one, and it's not picked up by Unity14:57
didrocksTrevinho_: it seems to be racy (sometimes, it passes)14:59
seb128didrocks, weird, we got few changes in utopic compared to trusty updates14:59
didrocksseb128: yeah, maybe the race was already there, I just never got it, but I got it 3 times on my 10 trials15:02
didrocksmeanwhile, I'll remove the deprecation warning which wouldn't be good in utopic on the CLI15:02
seb128right15:02
* didrocks tries first if the schema_id works in pygi in trusty15:02
didrocksyep works15:03
didrocksso changing that + tests mocking gsettings15:03
didrocksseb128: the glib doc says that schema is deprecated since 2.32, do you know by any chance if we were missing a flag to show deprecation or something changed for utopic?15:06
didrocks(not a biggie, just curious)15:06
seb128didrocks, it was deprecated but didn't throw warnings until this cycle15:09
seb128iirc15:09
seb128desrt|pdx or larsu can probably confirm15:09
didrocksok, making sense, thanks!15:09
seb128didrocks, or in fact rather https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=d0e706178584d2251b11f71321cdbfee5af0484715:10
seb128"GObject: warn on use of deprecated properties"15:10
seb128it's not specific to that api15:10
* larsu confirms what seb128 is saying15:10
seb128it's what makes e.g gedit throws warnings about gtk properties15:10
didrocksseb128: interesting, thanks for digging!15:11
seb128didrocks, yw15:11
didrocksat least, that would have make all the tricks to be able to test it on utopic worthwile :)15:16
didrocksseb128: tell me once you have time to get it tested, hoping we won't have last minute issues15:16
seb128didrocks, what should I do, just install it/run it/verify that android studio get installed/added to the launcher/is working?15:17
didrocksseb128: exactly ;)15:17
didrocksseb128: if you can remove one of the i386 package15:17
seb128doing that now15:18
seb128like ?15:18
didrocksand even, remove the multi-arch support temporarly :)15:18
seb128well, I'm on i38615:18
didrocksright, I got it the wrong way around :)15:18
didrocksone sec, list of packages is…15:18
didrocksseb128: one of those: https://github.com/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/blob/master/udtc/frameworks/android.py#L4115:19
davmor2willcooke: you wanna go fast take flight lessons it has to be cheaper ;)15:19
willcookedavmor2, :D15:21
seb128didrocks, works fine for me, but the icon didn't get added to the launcher15:28
didrocksseb128: did you try to look what gsettings thinks?15:28
didrocksseb128: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites15:28
seb128didrocks, it's added to the key15:28
didrocksok, Trevinho_ ^15:29
seb128same issue that you have I guess15:29
seb128... 'application://android-studio.desktop', 'unity://running-apps', 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices']15:29
didrocksseb128: try to change something and set it15:29
seb128set what?15:29
didrocksthis key15:29
seb128to what value?15:29
didrocksand this time, for me, Unity picked it15:29
didrockswell, I removed unity://running-apps for instance15:29
didrocksand then, reset it15:29
didrocksjust to ensure that Unity was listening to key change or not at all15:30
seb128didrocks, it works if I set it to something else and back15:31
didrocksok, let's see what Trevinho_ is going to tell us15:31
didrocksor bregma_ ^15:31
didrocksthanks seb128 for trying it out :)15:31
seb128yw15:31
Trevinho_didrocks: mh, ok, let me look further on that15:32
seb128Trevinho_, hey15:32
didrocksTrevinho_: tell us if we can give you any further info or a bug report15:32
seb128Trevinho_, what are you guys working on atm? we didn't get unity7 updates for a while it seems :/15:32
seb128Trevinho_, do you know if there is a new bugfix update/sru scheduled?15:33
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Trevinhoseb128: hi15:33
Trevinhoseb128: yes, SRU is in progress. We were about doing it the past week, but I think we might include some more fixes on it. Work has been on my side mostly on completing the hidpi/text scaling and some lockscreen improvements.15:35
TrevinhoAnd also bug fixes for trunk as well. The updates are slower due to the landing process and some work done on the unity touch desktop...15:35
TrevinhoI guess a new landing will happen in days15:36
Trevinhodidrocks: back to your issue btw for sure nothing changed in the unity side, but it's likely that some changes in glib might underline the problem15:38
didrocksTrevinho: yeah, can be, I really never noticed that issue (apart the other one we discussed last cycle) on the launcher addition itself15:38
didrockstell me if I can do anything, but great that we are at least 2 to confirm :)15:38
Trevinhoyeah, I remebmer (and saved on my todo that)... :/15:39
didrocksTrevinho: want a bug report?15:39
Trevinhono, no worries15:39
TrevinhoI mean, as you prefer15:39
didrockswell, let me do one quickly15:39
seb128Trevinho, good, looking forward seeing the bugfixes landing ;-)15:41
seb128ok, I'm out for some exercice, bbiab15:41
didrocksTrevinho: bug #136407015:44
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1364070 in unity "utopic unity (7.3.1+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1) launcher addition through gsettings isn't picked up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136407015:44
ubot5bug 1364070 in unity (Ubuntu) "utopic unity (7.3.1+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1) launcher addition through gsettings isn't picked up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136407015:44
didrocksseb128: once you are back, mind confirming? ^15:44
didrocksseb128: enjoy15:44
seb128didrocks, thanks, confirmed15:44
didrocksthanks ;)15:44
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mitya57Hi, I need someone from ~indicator-applet-developers to review two branches:15:49
mitya57- lp:~mitya57/appmenu-qt5/lp1362104 for bug 136210415:49
mitya57- lp:~mitya57/indicator-session/lp1363630 for bug 136363015:49
mitya57sil2100: I've added you to reviewers for the former one, can you take a look please?15:49
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1362104 in appmenu-qt5 "Hides the app menu even when the global menu is not available" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136210415:49
ubot5bug 1362104 in appmenu-qt5 (Ubuntu) "Hides the app menu even when the global menu is not available" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136210415:49
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1363630 in indicator-session "Since revision 446.1.3, Zenity backend is broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136363015:49
ubot5bug 1363630 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "Since revision 446.1.3, Zenity backend is broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136363015:49
sil2100mitya57: hey! Thanks, let me take a look at that :)15:49
mitya57Wow, two different bug bots15:49
sil2100mitya57: ok, on first glimpse it looks ok, but need to have a moment to test, while right now it's a bit busyish15:50
seb128yeah, having one bot only would be enough15:51
didrocks+115:51
didrocksor rather, +2 :p15:51
sil2100I would say -1 ;)15:53
mitya57sil2100: thanks in advance15:53
sil2100num_of_bots - 115:53
didrocksgood night everyone!16:40
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willcookeFJKong, hey19:35
willcookeright, got a craft ale with my name on it.20:33
willcookeg'night all,  g'morning robert_ancell :)20:33
robert_ancellnom nom, craft ale20:34
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