[07:10] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:11] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:11] <seb128> lut didrocks ;-)
[07:49] <pitti> bonjour seb128 ! as-tu eu un bon w.e./
[07:49] <pitti> ?
[07:50] <seb128> pitti, salut, oui, très bon ! et toi ?
[07:51] <pitti> seb128: ici aussi; ma sœur, "in-law", niece, et neveu nous ont visité hier, c'était bon
[07:52] <seb128> pitti, in-law = belle-famille in french
[07:52] <seb128> sister-in-law = belle-soeur, brother-in-law=beau-frère
[07:53] <pitti> seb128: ah, beau-frère :)
[07:53] <seb128> pitti, dimanche en famille, c'est bien :-)
[07:53] <pitti> seb128: le lesson de famille manque ce mot :)
[07:53] <seb128> hehe
[07:54] <pitti> je seulment fais duolingo à les week-ends
[08:01] <didrocks> seb128: do you think you will have time to test udtc today (before the official announce, tomorrow)?
[08:01] <seb128> didrocks, can do, sure
[08:02] <didrocks> thanks :)
[08:02]  * didrocks tries on amd64 utopic and trusty
[08:06] <Noskcaj> Could someone please review my gnome-menus merge?
[08:16] <Noskcaj> https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/gnome-menus/3.13/+merge/231633
[08:19] <seb128> Noskcaj, hi?
[08:20] <Noskcaj> hey seb128
[08:20] <seb128> Noskcaj, what about that url?
[08:20] <Noskcaj> i linked it 10 mins after asking for a review
[08:20] <Noskcaj> Bugfix only stuff
[08:20] <seb128> oh
[08:20] <seb128> well, it should be in the sponsoring queue
[08:21] <seb128> I'm also unsure about taking from an unstable serie
[08:21] <seb128> it might that 3.13.4 has api/abi changes and that we get stucked on an unstable version if we don't want those this cycle
[08:22] <seb128> looking to the git log, there doesn't seem be much we need/a strong motivation for that update
[08:23] <seb128> it's basically the revert we distro patched and some small fixes
[08:26] <didrocks> appmenu seems to not be working with scale mode in virtualbox
[08:28] <seb128> scale, like the hidpi factor from unity?
[08:28] <didrocks> no, from the virtualbox guest
[08:28]  * didrocks dives a little bit into it
[08:28] <seb128> k
[08:31] <xnox> hm, my laptop really does not believe that it has display port =(
[08:31] <Noskcaj> seb128, ok
[08:31] <xnox> can't connect my external monitor.
[08:32] <xnox> and morning everyone =)
[08:32] <seb128> hey xnox
[08:32] <seb128> how are you?
[08:32] <didrocks> morning xnox!
[08:32] <xnox> seb128: morning. Good good =)
[08:33] <xnox> seb128: didrocks: dell xps 13 (the one that is preinstalled with 12.04.1) really does not fly that well with 14.04 LTS =)
[08:33] <xnox> i guess it's in my hands to fix some of that.
[08:33] <seb128> xnox, oh? what's the issue?
[08:33] <seb128> xnox, I'm thinking about getting one of those
[08:34] <xnox> seb128: it does not believe that it has a mini display port (xrandr says nothing), compiz goes 140% cpu if google chrome plays any adobe flash, the rest is fine.
[08:34] <xnox> touchscreen works, bluetooth works, et.al.
[08:34] <seb128> k
[08:34] <seb128> small issues for my usecase
[08:34] <xnox> so minor. does ara's team test display ports?
[08:35] <seb128> the display port issue is a bit weird
[08:35] <seb128> isn't that all intel hardware for the video?
[08:36] <xnox> yeap, haswell graphics & cpu
[08:36] <xnox> i've tried Intel OTC driver stack as well, no dice.
[08:36] <seb128> weird
[08:36] <xnox> oh and I have to boot with "nomodeset" on the kernel command line, otherwise no graphics come up at all.
[08:38] <xnox> i wonder if it's time to upgrade to 14.10 =/
[08:41] <seb128> xnox, if 14.04 has bugs supporting that hwd it would be nice to have those fixed in the lts
[08:41] <xnox> true.
[08:41]  * xnox ponders if the recovery usb I made is bootable into live cd mode at all.
[08:42] <xnox> that would help validate if special sauce binaries are at fault for fixing this.
[08:43] <xnox> ok, will be back later. see ya
[09:30] <xnox> seb128: good news, purging 01.org drivers, downgrading various local things to trusty-updates, getting latest trusty-updates x stack and kernel, got everything back to good. I have display port working as well as booting normally without nomodeset.
[09:30] <xnox> life is wonderful with large external screen now =)
[09:30] <seb128> xnox, downgrading ... can you try upgrading again to see if there is a regression in some proposed version?
[11:05] <larsu> Trevinho_: hey, what's the state of your frame extents patch? When will we get it in unity?
[11:20] <willcooke> afternoon all
[11:20]  * willcooke is back from Speed Awareness training :/
[11:23] <ogra_> now you know that speed exists ?
[11:26] <willcooke> ogra_, :)
[11:26] <willcooke> I think that might have been part of the problem
[11:26] <ogra_> tell, them speed is finite anyway ... cant exceed light ;)
[11:38] <didrocks> afternoon speedy (SPDY or http2.0) willcooke!
[12:58] <Trevinho_> larsu: Yes I'm proposing the patch I did long time ago to, just nkwt
[12:58] <Trevinho_> Now
[13:03] <larsu> cool, thanks!
[14:57] <didrocks> Trevinho_: hey, I think there is an Unity regression on utopic about adding launcher icon
[14:57] <didrocks> Trevinho_: I just change the settings key for the launcher icons, add one, and it's not picked up by Unity
[14:59] <didrocks> Trevinho_: it seems to be racy (sometimes, it passes)
[14:59] <seb128> didrocks, weird, we got few changes in utopic compared to trusty updates
[15:02] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, maybe the race was already there, I just never got it, but I got it 3 times on my 10 trials
[15:02] <didrocks> meanwhile, I'll remove the deprecation warning which wouldn't be good in utopic on the CLI
[15:02] <seb128> right
[15:02]  * didrocks tries first if the schema_id works in pygi in trusty
[15:03] <didrocks> yep works
[15:03] <didrocks> so changing that + tests mocking gsettings
[15:06] <didrocks> seb128: the glib doc says that schema is deprecated since 2.32, do you know by any chance if we were missing a flag to show deprecation or something changed for utopic?
[15:06] <didrocks> (not a biggie, just curious)
[15:09] <seb128> didrocks, it was deprecated but didn't throw warnings until this cycle
[15:09] <seb128> iirc
[15:09] <seb128> desrt|pdx or larsu can probably confirm
[15:09] <didrocks> ok, making sense, thanks!
[15:10] <seb128> didrocks, or in fact rather https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=d0e706178584d2251b11f71321cdbfee5af04847
[15:10] <seb128> "GObject: warn on use of deprecated properties"
[15:10] <seb128> it's not specific to that api
[15:10]  * larsu confirms what seb128 is saying
[15:10] <seb128> it's what makes e.g gedit throws warnings about gtk properties
[15:11] <didrocks> seb128: interesting, thanks for digging!
[15:11] <seb128> didrocks, yw
[15:16] <didrocks> at least, that would have make all the tricks to be able to test it on utopic worthwile :)
[15:16] <didrocks> seb128: tell me once you have time to get it tested, hoping we won't have last minute issues
[15:17] <seb128> didrocks, what should I do, just install it/run it/verify that android studio get installed/added to the launcher/is working?
[15:17] <didrocks> seb128: exactly ;)
[15:17] <didrocks> seb128: if you can remove one of the i386 package
[15:18] <seb128> doing that now
[15:18] <seb128> like ?
[15:18] <didrocks> and even, remove the multi-arch support temporarly :)
[15:18] <seb128> well, I'm on i386
[15:18] <didrocks> right, I got it the wrong way around :)
[15:18] <didrocks> one sec, list of packages is…
[15:19] <didrocks> seb128: one of those: https://github.com/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/blob/master/udtc/frameworks/android.py#L41
[15:19] <davmor2> willcooke: you wanna go fast take flight lessons it has to be cheaper ;)
[15:21] <willcooke> davmor2, :D
[15:28] <seb128> didrocks, works fine for me, but the icon didn't get added to the launcher
[15:28] <didrocks> seb128: did you try to look what gsettings thinks?
[15:28] <didrocks> seb128: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites
[15:28] <seb128> didrocks, it's added to the key
[15:29] <didrocks> ok, Trevinho_ ^
[15:29] <seb128> same issue that you have I guess
[15:29] <seb128> ... 'application://android-studio.desktop', 'unity://running-apps', 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices']
[15:29] <didrocks> seb128: try to change something and set it
[15:29] <seb128> set what?
[15:29] <didrocks> this key
[15:29] <seb128> to what value?
[15:29] <didrocks> and this time, for me, Unity picked it
[15:29] <didrocks> well, I removed unity://running-apps for instance
[15:29] <didrocks> and then, reset it
[15:30] <didrocks> just to ensure that Unity was listening to key change or not at all
[15:31] <seb128> didrocks, it works if I set it to something else and back
[15:31] <didrocks> ok, let's see what Trevinho_ is going to tell us
[15:31] <didrocks> or bregma_ ^
[15:31] <didrocks> thanks seb128 for trying it out :)
[15:31] <seb128> yw
[15:32] <Trevinho_> didrocks: mh, ok, let me look further on that
[15:32] <seb128> Trevinho_, hey
[15:32] <didrocks> Trevinho_: tell us if we can give you any further info or a bug report
[15:32] <seb128> Trevinho_, what are you guys working on atm? we didn't get unity7 updates for a while it seems :/
[15:33] <seb128> Trevinho_, do you know if there is a new bugfix update/sru scheduled?
[15:33] <Trevinho> seb128: hi
[15:35] <Trevinho> seb128: yes, SRU is in progress. We were about doing it the past week, but I think we might include some more fixes on it. Work has been on my side mostly on completing the hidpi/text scaling and some lockscreen improvements.
[15:35] <Trevinho> And also bug fixes for trunk as well. The updates are slower due to the landing process and some work done on the unity touch desktop...
[15:36] <Trevinho> I guess a new landing will happen in days
[15:38] <Trevinho> didrocks: back to your issue btw for sure nothing changed in the unity side, but it's likely that some changes in glib might underline the problem
[15:38] <didrocks> Trevinho: yeah, can be, I really never noticed that issue (apart the other one we discussed last cycle) on the launcher addition itself
[15:38] <didrocks> tell me if I can do anything, but great that we are at least 2 to confirm :)
[15:39] <Trevinho> yeah, I remebmer (and saved on my todo that)... :/
[15:39] <didrocks> Trevinho: want a bug report?
[15:39] <Trevinho> no, no worries
[15:39] <Trevinho> I mean, as you prefer
[15:39] <didrocks> well, let me do one quickly
[15:41] <seb128> Trevinho, good, looking forward seeing the bugfixes landing ;-)
[15:41] <seb128> ok, I'm out for some exercice, bbiab
[15:44] <didrocks> Trevinho: bug #1364070
[15:44] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1364070 in unity "utopic unity (7.3.1+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1) launcher addition through gsettings isn't picked up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364070
[15:44] <didrocks> seb128: once you are back, mind confirming? ^
[15:44] <didrocks> seb128: enjoy
[15:44] <seb128> didrocks, thanks, confirmed
[15:44] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[15:49] <mitya57> Hi, I need someone from ~indicator-applet-developers to review two branches:
[15:49] <mitya57> - lp:~mitya57/appmenu-qt5/lp1362104 for bug 1362104
[15:49] <mitya57> - lp:~mitya57/indicator-session/lp1363630 for bug 1363630
[15:49] <mitya57> sil2100: I've added you to reviewers for the former one, can you take a look please?
[15:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1362104 in appmenu-qt5 "Hides the app menu even when the global menu is not available" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362104
[15:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1363630 in indicator-session "Since revision 446.1.3, Zenity backend is broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363630
[15:49] <sil2100> mitya57: hey! Thanks, let me take a look at that :)
[15:49] <mitya57> Wow, two different bug bots
[15:50] <sil2100> mitya57: ok, on first glimpse it looks ok, but need to have a moment to test, while right now it's a bit busyish
[15:51] <seb128> yeah, having one bot only would be enough
[15:51] <didrocks> +1
[15:51] <didrocks> or rather, +2 :p
[15:53] <sil2100> I would say -1 ;)
[15:53] <mitya57> sil2100: thanks in advance
[15:53] <sil2100> num_of_bots - 1
[16:40] <didrocks> good night everyone!
[19:35] <willcooke> FJKong, hey
[20:33] <willcooke> right, got a craft ale with my name on it.
[20:33] <willcooke> g'night all,  g'morning robert_ancell :)
[20:34] <robert_ancell> nom nom, craft ale