| bduk1 | Morning everyone | 05:20 |
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| Kilos | hi captine charl Squirm nuvolari inetpro and others | 06:03 |
| Squirm | morning | 06:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:01 |
| Kilos | and Spekko | 07:01 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 07:01 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 07:04 |
| superfly | and bduk1, Squirm and ThatGraemeGuy | 07:04 |
| Kilos | interest bit of news | 07:08 |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/108914-south-africas-best-kept-broadband-secret.html | 07:08 |
| nuvolari | o/ | 07:10 |
| * nuvolari val uit die bed uit | 07:10 | |
| Kilos | lol | 07:10 |
| nuvolari | oh hi oom Kilos, Squirm, ThatGraemeGuy, Spekko, superfly | 07:10 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 07:21 |
| Spekko | More Kilos & nuvolari | 07:27 |
| * Squirm looks around | 07:30 | |
| Squirm | anyone know if a decent VPS I could use/rent? Looking to host a mail server | 07:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | haven't used them, but https://www.cloudafrica.net/pricing looks decent | 07:31 |
| nuvolari | blackberry is a huge pain hrr! | 07:41 |
| nuvolari | been trying for 2 days now to get the internet working | 07:41 |
| nuvolari | I've configured the APN and I can resolve names and ping using the tools, but do you think the browser wants to 'see' the internet? | 07:42 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:44 |
| Kilos | hi SilverCode | 07:44 |
| SilverCode | morning Kilos | 07:44 |
| Vince-0 | ! | 07:54 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 hoe gaanit | 08:10 |
| charl | morning Vince-0, SilverCode, Kilos, nuvolari, Squirm, ThatGraemeGuy, superfly, bduk1 | 08:17 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 08:17 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 08:17 | |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hey charl | 08:17 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 08:18 |
| Kilos | ohi bduk1 | 08:18 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 08:21 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 08:24 |
| Maaz | charl: No problem | 08:24 |
| charl | Kilos: that's an interesting article, laser-based wireless is not a new idea (first time i heard of it was more than 10 years ago) but first time i hear about it actually being put to use | 08:26 |
| charl | i think it's a nice idea for companies who have offices across the road, for example | 08:26 |
| Kilos | yeah | 08:26 |
| charl | the only major problem of course is that, say a bird or anything would fly in between, it would disrupt the signal | 08:27 |
| Kilos | luckily birds dont fly slowly so its like only one dropped package | 08:27 |
| charl | yeah exactly | 08:27 |
| charl | i don't think it would be a huge problem in practise | 08:28 |
| charl | although even an insect could disrupt it i think | 08:28 |
| Kilos | ? | 08:28 |
| charl | but let's say you would have two separate links some space apart, say on two opposite edges of the building | 08:28 |
| charl | i think that would work really well | 08:28 |
| charl | i really like that it uses visible light as the spectrum, no licenses necessary and very high bitrate | 08:29 |
| Kilos | line of site between them is the important thing i think | 08:29 |
| charl | yeah that would be a given, otherwise you have to set up long poles | 08:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:30 |
| charl | visible light afaik is very high frequency compared to microwave | 08:30 |
| Kilos | very fast though hey | 08:30 |
| charl | anythong > 1gbps is essentially fibre optic speeds | 08:30 |
| charl | also visible light but then channeled through a glass or plastic fibre | 08:30 |
| Kilos | they even higher extreme high frequency | 08:30 |
| charl | well you can't go higher than visible light without causing a serious health risk | 08:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | biggest downside for those things down here is that they don't cope with fog | 08:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and of course 2km isn't terribly great range for something like WUG used | 08:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uh, "use" | 08:32 |
| Squirm | thanks ThatGraemeGuy, looks decent | 08:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | keen to hear your experiences if you try it | 08:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | got one from webafrica a while ago, but performance was pretty hideous, especially as far as disk i/o is concerned | 08:46 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx- | 09:07 |
| Golynx- | Hi kilos | 09:07 |
| charl | hi Golynx- | 09:08 |
| Golynx- | Hey charl | 09:09 |
| charl | :) | 09:09 |
| Golynx- | I thought i was gona die | 09:10 |
| Golynx- | I just got a lung infection | 09:10 |
| Golynx- | Oh sorry this not a medical channel | 09:13 |
| Kilos | ouch | 09:13 |
| charl | what ?! | 09:22 |
| Kilos | ai! again | 12:33 |
| charl | freenode constantly under ddos now | 12:35 |
| Kilos | looks like it | 12:37 |
| charl | i wish they would release some more information - it would be extremely interesting to know what type of ddos they are receiving | 12:38 |
| bushtech | pardon my ignorance but how do you guys see that? | 12:38 |
| Kilos | normally freenode sends out a message explaining why they have network probs | 12:39 |
| charl | bushtech: large amounts of users being connected due to ping timeouts or repeated netsplits from various servers in a short space of time | 12:40 |
| Kilos | i think somewhere in you settings you can activate those messages | 12:40 |
| charl | bushtech: indicative of connectivity problems which in this day and age usually relates to ddos | 12:41 |
| charl | they don't always send out global notices anymore | 12:41 |
| charl | there are too many ddos'es now, people just attempt to weather the attack | 12:41 |
| charl | there is very little you can do about a modern ddos as an average server administrator | 12:41 |
| bushtech | Ah, thanks. | 12:42 |
| charl | it's an inherent vulnerability in the structure of the internet and needs to be solved on a backbone level | 12:42 |
| charl | if bgp was intelligent (which it is not) it should be able to mitigate these types of attacks | 12:42 |
| charl | but it gets tricky because ddoses are getting very tricky and advanced, difficult to block effectively without blocking legitimate traffic | 12:43 |
| bushtech | and in the (hopefully) unlikelely event of getting hit at home what can you do short of pulling the plug? | 12:43 |
| charl | for the price of a few euro you can get a ddos launched at any particular ip address via paypal via these so-called booters | 12:44 |
| charl | *if* they can find your home IP there is nothing you can do other than pull the plug or maybe call your isp | 12:44 |
| bushtech | phew! | 12:44 |
| charl | but usually ddos attacks are aimed at servers | 12:44 |
| charl | bushtech: http://top10booters.com/ | 12:45 |
| bushtech | amazing! | 12:46 |
| charl | i have never been hit at home (that i know of) but at work we have regular ddos attacks | 12:46 |
| bushtech | and you work in a normal business and not some top secret military installation? | 12:48 |
| charl | our biggest ddos was 40gbps which is our actual internet capacity... | 12:48 |
| charl | no at a university | 12:48 |
| charl | afaik they are usually aimed at game servers, somebody loses at a game and ddoses the game server | 12:49 |
| charl | little sissy boys | 12:49 |
| charl | a case of "go home and cry to your mama" | 12:50 |
| bushtech | Ah! disgruntled student? | 12:50 |
| charl | no probably external parties that just randomly hit us | 12:50 |
| charl | we run an irc server too | 12:50 |
| charl | well, one of the student organisations run an irc server | 12:51 |
| charl | s/run/runs/ | 12:51 |
| inetpro | good evening | 17:46 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 17:50 |
| charl | the ddos is strong today | 17:50 |
| charl | how are you inetpro, still mining ? | 17:50 |
| inetpro | hmm... looks pretty normal to me | 17:50 |
| charl | there are about 4 sites i use that are now under ddos for the last 4 days | 17:51 |
| charl | 3 days i mean | 17:51 |
| charl | one of my friends is also being ddosed right now | 17:52 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:37 |
| Kilos | power went for a rest | 18:38 |
| charl | wb Kilos | 18:48 |
| Kilos | ty charl | 18:48 |
| Kilos | what did i miss | 18:49 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:49 |
| Kilos | wakey wakey | 18:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: uh? | 18:50 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:50 |
| Kilos | hi that | 18:50 |
| Kilos | night all, sleep tight | 21:50 |
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