[05:44] <valorie> Scarlett is asleep in my guestroom, logging off here to do backups
[05:44] <valorie> see some of you soon!
[06:25] <soee> hi, any idea why driver management just loding and nothing more ?
[06:25] <soee> after upgrad 14.04 -> 14.10
[06:26] <soee> also i had to switch to kdm because lightdm did not start :) and now i have very low resolution
[06:35] <soee> ok driver reinstall and all works now just fine
[06:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <alvin> Akonadi is bugging me https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338186 I can no longer see mail since KDE 4.14. Is there a similar report in Launchpad, or is this the only official bug tracker? (I'm mainly interested in a 'when' it could be fixed.)
[09:58] <Riddell> alvin: if it's an upstream bug then bugs.kde.org is the place to put it, is there a reason why it might be kubuntu specific?
[09:59] <alvin> No. Nobody changed the title. It's not Kubuntu specific
[10:00] <alvin> It depends on the IMAP server. Courier in this case. (But the bug is still in Akonadi)
[10:00] <alvin> I was wondering why no new mail arrived (without any error or indication). Recreated the IMAP account. Still no visible errors, but a list of empty folders.
[10:22]  * Riddell blogs off topic https://blogs.kde.org/2014/09/02/should-scotland-be-independent-country
[10:26] <apachelogger> do I get to vote?
[10:28] <Riddell> sorry, deadline for registering was yesterday, but we'll welcome all in a shiny new Scotland
[10:30] <apachelogger> why if scotland stops using funny money I'll totally feel inclined to at the very least visit some day
[10:31] <yofel> lets all go on a golfing and whisky testing tour then ^^
[10:31] <Riddell> we can but hope
[10:31] <Riddell> yofel: really our canoeing and irn bru tours are far more interesting
[10:31] <yofel> heh
[10:32] <apachelogger> yofel made me sad :'(
[10:32] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQFbFOLWIHY
[10:34] <yofel> now I'm sad too :'(
[10:35]  * yofel goes back to watching ancient dr. who episodes
[11:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubiquity/plasma5
[11:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8214494/
[11:26] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1182784 for your SRU pleasure
[11:31]  * Peace- goes back to watching kenshiro lol
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:27] <ScottK> Riddell: Can you find someone to verify Bug #1358291?
[13:15] <Riddell> !testers | bug 1358291 on trusty
[13:17] <BluesKaj> sorry, no trusty here
[13:17] <yofel> no time till the weekend for anything
[13:22] <ScottK> Riddell: For your Ubiquity SRU, (I just looked at the diff) are you sure it only affects the KDE frontend?  It's not in a KDE specific file.
[13:24] <soee> and i just yesterday did upgrade to 14.10 here @ work :)
[13:25] <Riddell> ScottK: it does yes, it's in the PageKDE class
[13:26] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[13:27] <ScottK> Riddell: Accepted.
[13:29] <ovidiu-florin> Saw on G+ there's help needed in verifing bugfixes
[13:30] <ovidiu-florin> what's it about?
[13:31] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: Bug #1358291 is one need.
[13:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lp:~rohangarg/ubiquity/plasma5
[14:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: why does kdesu need to be hijacked by kdesudo?
[14:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: have you built in sudo support already?
[14:17] <apachelogger> KDEInit could not launch '':
[14:17] <apachelogger> Could not open library '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_'.
[14:17] <apachelogger> Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[14:17] <apachelogger> dawhat now
[14:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: install synaptic, try to start synaptic from menu
[14:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK apachelogger yofel any reservations to  pushing new pkg-kde-tools
[14:25] <shadeslayer> with magic scripts for frameworks
[14:26] <shadeslayer> see https://github.com/shadeslayer/pkg-kde-tools/tree/kubuntu-kf5
[14:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, wait until tomorrow as to not break the CP stage I am doing
[14:26] <Riddell> magic scripts?
[14:26] <apachelogger> also, I hope the new version doesn't break things :P
[14:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but it won't
[14:26] <shadeslayer> or I hope it wont
[14:26] <shadeslayer> :p
[14:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah, perl is magic
[14:27] <shadeslayer> dontcha know
[14:27] <shadeslayer> :p
[14:27] <shadeslayer> how else would you explain https://github.com/shadeslayer/pkg-kde-tools/blob/kubuntu-kf5/qt-kde-team/3/dhmk.pl#L179
[14:28] <apachelogger> "Perl is a molotov cocktail, it was probably useful once, but few people use it now."
[14:29] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:29] <apachelogger> http://bjorn.tipling.com/if-programming-languages-were-weapons
[14:30] <Quintasan> Riddell: Done, I was able to reproduce the bug and the -proposed version fixes it. Leaving a comment
[14:31] <yofel> ahahaha, that list is epic XD
[14:31] <apachelogger> much wisdom
[14:31] <Quintasan> >c++
[14:31] <Quintasan> kek
[14:31] <Riddell> Quintasan: yay, which one?
[14:32] <Quintasan> bug 1358291
[14:32] <Quintasan> >python
[14:32] <Quintasan> wow
[14:32] <shadeslayer> "Rust is a 3d printed gun. It may work some day."
[14:32] <Quintasan> this is the most accurate description of python
[14:32] <Quintasan> >ruby
[14:32] <Quintasan> kek
[14:32] <Quintasan> we should use it
[14:32] <Quintasan> It's shiny!
[14:33] <apachelogger> we do
[14:33] <Quintasan> Not enough it seems
[14:33] <apachelogger> we're plenty shiny
[14:33] <apachelogger> we'll even be using java soon
[14:33] <apachelogger> all hail java
[14:34] <yofel> all hail the NullPointerException \o/
[14:34] <Quintasan> Not enough it seems.
[14:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: bug 1364432 and bug 1364429 reported
[14:38] <Quintasan> >Harald / When I am not drunk / yes / XL
[14:39] <Quintasan> As expected
[14:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: are you coming to Akademy
[14:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Not really, no monies and even if I had some I want to get my studies back on track since I failed some courses and I don't want to drag this longer than necessary
[14:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we have something called sponsorship
[14:42] <shadeslayer> also, wat @ failed courses
[14:42] <shadeslayer> how do you even pass a Engineering degree without failing exams
[14:42] <shadeslayer> that's a given
[14:43] <yofel> I've heard rumours that some people manage to do that ^^
[14:43] <Quintasan> So yeah, I want to get back on track with that, it's a pain in the ass to be honest.
[14:43] <Quintasan> But better finish what I started
[14:43] <Quintasan> I'm at in my third year anyways, it would be a waste to stop now.
[14:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: don't exist
[14:43] <yofel> they do, but they're a strange kind
[14:44] <yofel> Quintasan: FWIW, I quit after 2 years, it's never too late :P
[14:44] <Quintasan> I'd never hear the end of it from my parents
[14:44] <Quintasan> This semester I have web applications
[14:44] <shadeslayer> rooby
[14:44] <yofel> ahahaha, "enjoy" :D
[14:44] <Quintasan> If we are doing this in PHP then I will have to stab someone.
[14:45] <shadeslayer> rooby it
[14:45] <shadeslayer> make rooby generate PHP
[14:45] <Quintasan> Yes, I'm going to ruby this.
[14:45] <Quintasan> Like padrino or sinatra
[14:45] <Quintasan> Or anything else but PHP.
[14:45] <yofel> well, you *can* write sane things in PHP (which pretty accurately describes the sanity of the language)
[14:47] <Quintasan> Maybe you can write sane things but how the interpreter works in an entirely different thing lol
[14:48] <Quintasan> yofel: I'm assuming you read PHP: A fractal of bad design?
[14:49] <yofel> sure, that's one of the first things you should read before using that... language
[14:50] <Quintasan> So there you go.
[14:50] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: What's up with sddm?
[14:50] <Quintasan> Did it get anywhere?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> not really
[14:50] <shadeslayer> Lisandro sent me some issues
[14:50] <shadeslayer> I fixed them
[14:50] <shadeslayer> then haven't bothered checking up
[14:50] <Quintasan> We're past feature freeze anyways I think
[14:51] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: We should get it asap in 15.04 I think
[14:51] <yofel> all of next goes into the archive in 15.04
[14:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8215922/
[14:51] <shadeslayer> what yofel said
[14:52] <yofel> is anyone working on a qt5 touchpad kcm?
[14:52] <shadeslayer> not that I know of
[14:52] <yofel> bummer
[14:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Where is the packaging at?
[14:53] <Quintasan> I might be able to work on it if you don't already have plans for it.
[14:53] <shadeslayer> bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sddm
[14:53] <Quintasan> k
[15:05] <apachelogger> Quintasan: isn't wroclaw rather close to brno?
[15:06] <apachelogger> what's it, like 4 hours?
[15:06] <Quintasan> apachelogger: 4 hours
[15:07] <apachelogger> Quintasan: go to brno on friday afternoon and back on sunday afternoon? :P
[15:07] <apachelogger> you'd of course miss the sunday drinkfest ;)
[15:12] <shadeslayer> drinkfest!
[15:12] <shadeslayer> we have a drinkfest?
[15:13] <apachelogger> isn't there always a drinkfest
[15:15] <yofel> I'm pretty sure someone will ogranise one if there isn't yet
[15:15] <shadeslayer> don't see drinkfest https://akademy.kde.org/2014/program
[15:15] <shadeslayer> but ok
[15:15] <shadeslayer> I believe you apachelogger
[16:27] <BogdanOlar> Hello! I'd like to report a bug; am I on the right channel to ask some questions about the process?
[16:28] <shadeslayer> BogdanOlar: syre
[16:28] <shadeslayer> *sure
[16:28] <shadeslayer> depends on the bug
[16:29] <BogdanOlar> Specifically, if I use the Input Devices > Touchpad > Enable/Disable Touchpad > "Disable touchpad when mouse is plugged in"  option, the computer will always restart with the touchpad disabled, regardless if a mouse is plugged in or not
[16:30] <BogdanOlar> I'm thinking of submitting this bug to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=kde-touchpad
[16:30] <BogdanOlar> but I'm not sure I've got hte right package
[16:30] <BogdanOlar> (kde-touchpad)
[16:55] <shadeslayer> pft
[17:36] <shadeslayer> yofel: yo
[17:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: know anything about configuring email stuff on servers
[17:38] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What's up?
[17:38] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I want my script to send off emails about patches missing dep 3 headers
[17:38] <shadeslayer> any clue how to configure qa.kubuntu.co.uk to do that
[17:38] <ScottK> Does it already have a working mail server on it?
[17:38] <shadeslayer> it has exim4 installed
[17:38] <shadeslayer> no clue if it works
[17:39] <ScottK> Doesn't seem to, not from the outside anyway.
[17:40] <ScottK> What's the server running on?  Ubuntu/Debian?
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Debian
[17:41] <ScottK> Do you have root on the box?
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yep
[17:42] <ScottK> As long as you are confident nothing else is using the exim4 install, let's switch it to postfix.  I can help you with that.
[17:43] <shadeslayer> not that I know of 
[17:43] <shadeslayer> but lets ask first
[17:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: Riddell apachelogger any opposition ^^
[17:46] <shadeslayer> ScottK: we can do it tomorrow if you have time
[17:46] <shadeslayer> I'm toot tired right now
[17:46] <shadeslayer> so cya tomorrow
[17:46] <ScottK> OK.  I will likely be around.
[17:50] <apachelogger> yarr
[17:50] <apachelogger> me mates, the frameworks be broken
[17:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: pingsies
[17:51] <apachelogger> no one ever is here when I need em
[17:52]  * apachelogger throws arms up in the air and runs off
[18:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: postfix should do the job just fine