[00:56] <wgrant> asac: That build display bug is fixed on prod now. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/indicator-transfer/0.1+14.10.20140814-0ubuntu1
[02:04] <imgbot> [03:04] <imgbot> [03:44] <imgbot> [03:44] <imgbot> [04:14] <imgbot> [04:14] <imgbot> [07:15] <Saviq> trainguards, I can has reconfigure in silo 2 please (added qtmir-gles twin)
[07:21] <Saviq> trainguards, hmm looking at rtm silo 3, looks like the schemas got published through another silo, so they should be dropped from that silo?
[08:05] <sil2100> Mirv: hey! Do you know how CI works for core-app merges?
[08:05] <sil2100> Mirv: I forwarded an e-mail from elopio_ to you
[08:06]  * sil2100 hopes Mirv has some experience with it since he has power to build clicks
[08:12] <Saviq> sil2100, hey, can you please reconfigure silo 2 for me (added qtmir-gles twin)
[08:13] <sil2100> Saviq: sure
[08:13] <Saviq> sil2100, also, the schemas in rtm silo 3 are older than already in rtm, feels like should be dropped from the siloi
[08:13] <Saviq> -i
[08:13] <sil2100> Saviq: thanks for noticing :) Let me double check that and drop it
[08:14] <sil2100> Saviq: reconfigured
[08:15] <sil2100> Yeah, I think we had a separate landing for gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas earlier
[08:17] <sil2100> ogra_: btw. you only generate the changes files for krillin ubuntu-rtm images, right?
[08:17] <sil2100> Or for mako/flo/manta ones as well?
[08:17] <ogra_> sil2100, i generate the chnages file for the rootfs :)
[08:18] <ogra_> (all arches use the same one)
[08:18] <sil2100> ogra_: ah, right, but you currently bind them later to krillin build numbers only, right?
[08:18] <ogra_> but i trigger (and finish) by krillin builds
[08:19] <ogra_> (i need to bind the watcher to one image)
[08:19] <sil2100> ev: thanks!
[08:19] <ev> sure thing
[08:19] <asac> nice one wgrant! thx
[08:20] <Mirv> sil2100: ok I'll take a look. I don't have any specific info, but I may find the jobs and parameters and can possibly try some changes
[08:21] <tvoss> hmmm, is 218 known to have issues booting?
[08:21] <Saviq> robru's very musical recently
[08:21] <Mirv> Saviq: yes he is :)
[08:21] <ogra_> heh
[08:21] <Saviq> tvoss, just flashed 218 on mako, all good
[08:22] <ogra_> tvoss, dosent look like it has issues on the dashboard http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/
[08:22] <tvoss> Saviq, ogra_ reflashing :)
[08:22] <ogra_> tvoss, do you have many click packages installed ? apparmor profile generation can take up to 5-10 min
[08:22] <tvoss> ogra_, nope, not really
[08:23] <tvoss> ogra_, I thought we would do the profile generation server side?
[08:23] <ogra_> (or if you are crazy like popey and install all of them even way longer i heard)
[08:23] <ogra_> tvoss, for all preinstalled clicks thats true
[08:24] <ogra_> tvoss, for all later installed clicks they all get fully re-generated every time you get a full image update (vs a diff)
[08:24] <ogra_> that takes ages and the system sitzts on the vendor logo while that happens
[08:31] <ogra_> sil2100, my firefox acts up ... looks like i'll be late
[08:34] <Mirv> psivaa: so here too https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/reminders-app/workaround1363604-add_sleep/+merge/232912
[08:38] <Saviq> davmor2, do you know if anyone's looking at rtm silo 3? (/we got another unity8 release incoming, might want to merge?)
[08:38] <davmor2> Saviq: no I think brendand was just telling me about it
[08:39] <Saviq> ok /me hijacks
[08:41] <Mirv> psivaa: (I can see the 'Setting up reminders-app-autopilot (0.4+bzr182ppa4~utopicbzr172utopic0)' there in the logs)
[08:41] <Saviq> sil2100, soo, can we do multiple sync: in an rtm silo or is that a case where we'll need your manual intervention? (rtm silo 3 has unity8 that I want to release real soon, testing now)
[08:41] <Saviq> release *again*
[08:42] <Saviq> so we'd need utopic silo 2 → rtm silo 3 while keeping ubuntu-system-settings in there
[08:42] <Mirv> Saviq: I'd guess manual, but we're in a meeting right now, let's look at it in 20mins
[08:42] <Saviq> Mirv, k thanks
[08:43] <brendand> Saviq, tested by ToyKeeper, she says it fails - https://trello.com/c/9B6QLvDd/37-rtm-landing-003-mterry-unity8-ubuntu-system-settings-gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas
[08:43] <Saviq> brendand, ough, thanks
[08:43] <brendand> Saviq, not sure if mterry told you
[08:44] <Saviq> brendand, he was out yesterday
[08:44] <brendand> Saviq, yeah. it's probably a good idea to get your name in the landers list if you care about the state of a silo
[08:44] <brendand> Saviq, otherwise we don't know to ping you
[08:44] <brendand> Saviq, it will be even more important as we automate some of this
[08:45] <Saviq> brendand, yeah, sure
[08:48]  * Saviq thinks we should release the unity8 changes that didn't fail QA
[08:49]  * sergiusens always likes to see what's new in unity8
[08:50] <brendand> popey, i'll take a look at one of the apps - might ping you later for some extra info
[09:03] <popey> brendand: thanks. I'd appreciate the help on this as it's somewhat demoralising for the core apps guys being unable to land their work.
[09:08] <brendand> popey, as long as people lay off requesting silos i should be able to
[09:12] <Mirv> Saviq: yeah I'll handle it manually. so, qtmir + qtmir-gles + unity8 from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-002/+packages to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-003/+packages ?
[09:12] <Saviq> Mirv, no, actually
[09:12] <Saviq> Mirv, because the other silo failed QA, let's just sync from 2 please
[09:13] <Saviq> Mirv, overriding unity8
[09:13] <brendand> popey, i'll look at weather-app first
[09:13] <Saviq> Mirv, line 53
[09:13] <Mirv> Saviq: oh, ok
[09:14] <Mirv> right
[09:14] <Mirv> Saviq: so what happens to rtm-003 then?
[09:15] <Saviq> Mirv, we'll have to wait for mterry, I put it to tested: no already
[09:15] <Mirv> okie
[09:23] <Saviq> Mirv, hmm, sync does not do srccopy after all? ~rtm is added always?
[09:25] <popey> sil2100:  did you speak to Laney about bug 1363314 ?
[09:28] <Saviq> popey, apparently we got more like that bug #1364258
[09:29] <popey> oof
[09:30] <Saviq> looks like we missed a rebuild or something
[09:32] <Saviq> unless stuff linked against both gst 1.0 and 0.10 is ifne
[09:32] <Saviq> fine
[09:37] <Mirv> Saviq: yes, the sil's sync copy implements changing of the version numbers. the way I did it earlier (copy-package from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools) did srccopy.
[09:38] <Saviq> Mirv, ktx
[09:46] <ogra_> sil2100, FYI the -meta package always needs to be copied directly into rtm, not into proposed because it wont fulfill the desktop-next requirements of the seed
[09:51] <ogra_> sil2100, oh, and we should probably kick an image at some point to get the serbian keyboard in the meta adds ...
[10:04] <sergiusens> sil2100: spreadsheet is all wonky on line 52
[10:04] <sergiusens> sil2100: I want to set testing to yes for http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=landing-014
[10:07] <Mirv> sergiusens: does not seem wonky to me. what image you used for testing?
[10:07] <Mirv> landing-014 is line 50 though
[10:07] <Mirv> sometimes the spreadsheet focusing etc goes wonky for me and I need to reload the page
[10:17] <psivaa> popey: regarding the weather-app failures here: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-weather-app/72/consoleText, i dont see anything else impacting apart from the MP itself. the installed packages are almost identical with another passing MP
[10:21] <sil2100> hmmm
[10:21] <sil2100> brendand: are you busy with QA sign-off right now?
[10:21] <sergiusens> Mirv: no image, it's ubuntu-device-flash
[10:21] <sil2100> popey: experimenting with something before doing a re-poke
[10:21] <sil2100> ogra_: good to know :| Did the meta get uploaded directly now, properly?
[10:22] <sergiusens> Mirv: I don't know why my name is on so many of those landings :-P
[10:22] <ogra_> sil2100, yep
[10:22]  * sergiusens restarts browser
[10:22] <ogra_> hmpf ...
[10:22] <brendand> sil2100, no but i might be soon
[10:22]  * ogra_ doesnt understand the push service ... 
[10:22] <sil2100> jibel: hey! Are the SIM pin-unlock problems gone now?
[10:22] <sil2100> jibel: since we reverted ofono
[10:22] <Mirv> sergiusens: oh, yes, I read that it's desktop only, and still asked... silly me
[10:22] <jibel> sil2100, it's fixed on #11
[10:22] <sil2100> Good to know
[10:23] <ogra_> well, in #10
[10:23] <ogra_> :)
[10:23] <sil2100> Need to poke mandel about that
[10:23] <ogra_> 11 only had a youtube scope update
[10:23] <ogra_> sil2100, about ofono ?
[10:23] <sil2100> Yeah, not sure if he's 100% aware we reverted his landing
[10:23] <ogra_> thats not mandel ... you want tony or abeato
[10:23] <sil2100> Well, he was the lander there
[10:23] <ogra_> ah
[10:24] <sil2100> Owner: mandel awe
[10:24] <sil2100> ;)
[10:24] <ogra_> right, but mandel only did the paperwork part i guess
[10:24] <ogra_> (since awe isnt a lander)
[10:24]  * sergiusens was added to lander to many things on an fyi basis
[10:25] <sergiusens> ogra_: ^ that's password setup
[10:25] <ogra_> sergiusens, i bet tony as well
[10:25]  * ogra_ hugs sergiusens 
[10:25] <sergiusens> just need to android side merged by rsalveti eventually
[10:25] <ogra_> yeah
[10:25] <ogra_> once he calmed down over the message phrasing :P
[10:26] <sergiusens> ogra_: it's just like --developer-mode, using it, just prints a warning in recovery if not understood, we can at least ask plars to start adding it
[10:26] <ogra_> sergiusens, do you know if there is a freely usable way to pop up a push notification without relaing to an app ?
[10:26] <ogra_> *relating
[10:26] <sergiusens> ogra_: no, there isn't
[10:26] <ogra_> dang
[10:27] <sergiusens> ogra_: it needs a push helper by design
[10:27] <ogra_> i tried just abusing system-settings ... but seems whatever i do it will just trigger the predefined "there is a system update" message
[10:27] <sergiusens> ogra_: you can however craft everything yourself through the messaging menu (has an api) or an osd whch is just dbus
[10:27] <ogra_> sergiusens, right, i was trying to follow http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-server-guide/
[10:28] <sergiusens> ogra_: oh, that's a complicated thing :P
[10:28] <ogra_> yeah
[10:28]  * ogra_ just wants a hourly cronjob doing df on /home ... that pops up a message if we hit 95% filling 
[10:29] <jibel> ogra_, I know but I upgraded from 9 to 11
[10:29] <ogra_> jibel, ;)
[10:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: use system settings as a push helper perhaps?
[10:32] <ogra_> thats what i was trying
[10:33] <ogra_> but i only get it to pop up "update available" all the time
[10:33] <ogra_> lets move to #ubuntu-touch :)
[10:40] <sil2100> brendand: sooo... once you're done, could you try reverting some packages and checking the video codecs issue?
[10:40] <sil2100> I'll provide a list with links
[10:40] <sil2100> brendand: since we didn't try reverting the gst plugins for that to confirm, right?
[10:42] <brendand> sil2100, ok
[10:43] <brendand> sil2100, i tried with all the RTM images and it was still happening so must have been there for longer than i thought
[10:58] <Mirv> tvoss: are there any updates or branches to link to bug #1359866?
[11:01] <Mirv> Saviq: regarding bug #1363314, we used to have the qtmultimedia-touch fork with GSt 1.0 support, which I hoped would be pushed to upstream, but then it kind of died when the general thought was that media-hub will provide the media playback needed
[11:02] <Saviq> Mirv, right, so it's only a non-android problem is it?
[11:02] <Saviq> "only" meaning unity8 desktop session is broken, too... and apps under X11... :/
[11:03] <Mirv> Saviq: yes, I'm just uncertain if it's something new or if people have only now started trying those on desktop. there's bug #1363653 too which might be related to the recent GStreamer 1.4.0 update.
[11:03] <sil2100> Mirv, Saviq: we'll be trying to revert the gst bad plugins and see if it's still broken
[11:03] <Mirv> Saviq: unity8 desktop also needs https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/kubuntu-packaging/qtchooser_qmlscene_fallback/+merge/230595
[11:04] <sil2100> Mirv, Saviq: but that's on a phone device
[11:04] <Mirv> (for launching apps from unity8)
[11:04] <Saviq> Mirv, it's new, unity8 doesn't start, broke our development
[11:04] <Mirv> Saviq: oh, ok then.
[11:05] <Mirv> from Qt side things have been the same from June though
[11:05]  * sil2100 really wonders if gst could be at fault here
[11:09] <sil2100> brendand: just give me a sign once you'll have that moment :)
[11:10] <brendand> sil2100, yeah send me the links anytime
[11:10] <sil2100> brendand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8214546/
[11:10] <sil2100> brendand: let's see if those work, I hope nothing started explicitly dep on those...
[11:10] <sil2100> Anyway, tell me in case it won't install cleanly
[11:12] <brendand> sil2100, no it's fine
[11:35] <ogra_> sil2100, did you ping Laney already about the gstreame drm2 stuff ?
[11:37] <sil2100> ogra_: not yet, wanted to confirm something
[11:38] <sil2100> brendand: how is it? Does it fix the problem with playback?
[11:39] <brendand> sil2100, doesn't look like it
[11:40] <sil2100> hmmm
[11:40] <ogra_> brendand, sil2100, hmm, i have an lxc-android-config landing (that janimo` just uploaded directly into ubuntu) ... it only adds empty files could i get signoff for just copying it from landing and QA teams ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/183780901/lxc-android-config_0.193_0.194.diff.gz
[11:40] <janimo`> ogra_, so what exactly do I need to do to get lxc-android-config 0.194 into utopic and then in rtm?
[11:40] <janimo`> ah, nice :)
[11:40] <janimo`> ogra_, I should have uploaded elsewhere?
[11:41] <ogra_> janimo`, well, lxc-android-config is speacial (and very hard to test)
[11:41] <ogra_> janimo`, usually you would have requested a silo for the ubuntu landing forst though
[11:41] <sil2100> ogra_: looks fine for me, what do you think brendand ^ ? I think we can get this through without QA signoff and train
[11:42] <janimo`> ogra_, ah so no more auto-gating anything that goes into utopic via a dput? I though there's some checking before it is let in, but clientside I do the same thing as before, i.e. do not care much
[11:42] <ogra_> janimo`, that you then test yourself ... once thats through you request a silo for rtm where this gets copied into ... which then you and QA test again against the rtm image
[11:42] <brendand> janimo`, so it doesn't do anything?
[11:43] <janimo`> brendand, no, they are placeholder files which are ignored, unless the android image replaces them with some apparmor rules via bind-mounting at boot time
[11:43] <ogra_> brendand, it only adds some empty placeholder files
[11:43] <janimo`> brendand, placeholders like some other files in that package (udev rules)
[11:44] <ogra_> yeah, they are in fact mountpoints the android tarball can use to ship hw specific configs
[11:44] <ogra_> for which it uses bind mounts on top of these nodes
[11:45] <janimo`> ogra_, I wonder if all those device specific files in there could be removed at one point, so those ports also do bind mounts
[11:45] <ogra_> janimo`, btw, we need to urgently replace the adbd bindmount on krillin
[11:45] <ogra_> (and soon also completely remove it)
[11:45] <janimo`> ogra_, what is that exactly? ah the upstart script?
[11:45] <ogra_> yeah
[11:45] <janimo`> ogra_, anytime, if you say it should work.
[11:45] <ogra_> it overrides my changes
[11:45] <janimo`> maybe I should test it
[11:46] <ogra_> janimo`, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8214748/ is the one the new package will ship (should cover your functionfs-double-mount issues)
[11:46] <ogra_> (iirc that was the initial reason for the bind mounts)
[11:51] <brendand> popey, afaict weather app fails on the stock mako image
[11:51] <sil2100> Laney: hey, so... since you did the last gst-plugins-bad1.0 upload - could you maybe take a look at some of the issues we're seeing with video playback? Bugs LP: #1363314 and LP: #1363653
[11:52] <sil2100> Laney: we have no idea on what's the cause and if it's related to gst at all, but maybe you could take a look anyway
[11:52] <popey> brendand: can you file a bug for it?
[11:56] <seb128> sil2100, Laney is on holidays for 10 days
[11:57] <seb128> sil2100, he's back on the 11
[11:57] <sil2100> So that explains why I didn't get an answer yesterday, huh
[11:57] <sil2100> seb128: thanks ;)
[11:57] <seb128> sil2100, you might want to get somebody else to look at it
[11:57] <seb128> yw!
[12:21] <ogra_> brendand, so any objection to me pushing lxc-android-config to rtm ?
[12:21] <pmcgowan> sil2100, do you have anyone to research that issue above and see if a landing to desktop caused it?
[12:22] <pmcgowan> sil2100, my understanding is we use gst0.1 not 1.0 on desktop
[12:22] <pmcgowan> maybe some plumbing got screwed up
[12:22] <ogra_> pmcgowan, we got the gst (and a ton of crappy x86 deps on arm) right before we brancehd off rtm
[12:23] <sil2100> pmcgowan: maybe, didn't yet get to the bottom of it, for now we checked and confirmed that reverting the gst1.0-plugins-bad upload doesn't fix the image situation at least
[12:23] <ogra_> it was just a debian sync but brought in dependencies like libdrm2 and such
[12:23] <pmcgowan> sigh
[12:23] <ogra_> pmcgowan, i pinged Laney about it but that was during debconf
[12:23] <sil2100> Now Laney is on holiday, so even worse
[12:23] <pmcgowan> ogra_, who should look into it iyo?
[12:23] <ogra_> eh said he'd take a look but i didnt hear back yet (and he might be off this week, recovering from jetlag)
[12:24] <ogra_> pmcgowan, well, preferably him ... he knows the packages best
[12:24] <pmcgowan> ok
[12:24] <ogra_> i'm not sure the recent other issues have anything to do with it
[12:34] <sil2100> It's really hard finding the person responsible
[12:34] <sil2100> brendand: hm, the video-playback issue is reproducible on mako as well right?
[12:37] <pmcgowan> asac, discussed here ^^
[12:38] <asac> sil2100: can we back it out?
[12:38] <asac> what would it take?
[12:38] <ogra_> asac, a ton
[12:38] <sil2100> asac: we have no idea what to back out... we tried backing out one part of it and it didn't help
[12:38] <sil2100> We don't know what exactly is the problem, we're looking and guessing
[12:39] <ogra_> we cant just back out from rtm only since i dont think we have the former package there
[12:39] <ogra_> so it would have to be a back out from the ground up ... of which we then dont know of how it will affect desktop
[12:40] <asac> ok, so who is currently engaged in this problem?
[12:40] <ogra_> (surely technically possible but also a hell lot of work)
[12:40] <ogra_> asac, well, i pinged Laney about it when it landed (while he was at debconf) ... he said he'd take a look ... thats my last info i have ... i didnt know he would be gone this week
[12:41] <ogra_> so atm we dont have anyone i think
[12:42] <ogra_> my concern was actually the megabytes of new x86 deps it pulls in on armhf which bloats our image massively
[12:42] <ogra_> (libdrm2 and friends)
[12:43] <sil2100> davmor2: hey, are you busy right now?
[12:43] <davmor2> yeap just testing a silo why?
[12:44] <sil2100> Ok, looking for someone that can do some bi-secting
[13:03] <plars> sergiusens: ogra_: Good morning, what's this I need to change?
[13:03] <davmor2> pmcgowan: I thought everything moved over to GST1.0 in trusty
[13:03] <ogra_> plars, we're still waiting for a change on the android side to support the u-d-f --password option
[13:03] <plars> ogra_: ah, ok
[13:04] <ogra_> plars, then you could test that bit and inject the new adbd right after install
[13:04] <plars> ogra_: sounds good
[13:04] <ogra_> and let a full run go through
[13:04] <ogra_> plars, oh, and i think mterry's final fix for the unlocking didnt land yet ... i guess you need that too
[13:04] <mterry> hm?
[13:04] <mterry> ah yeah
[13:04] <ogra_> (though i assume you could hack in the change yourself)
[13:04] <mterry> it's approved, but hasn't landed
[13:05] <plars> ogra_: indeed, I do
[13:06] <brendand> sil2100, yes i always checked on mako
[13:08] <brendand> thostr_, i can test rtm silo 008 or 009 - which one do you prefer?
[13:09] <thostr_> brendand: start with 9
[13:10] <pmcgowan> davmor2, dont think so we have different multimedia plugins for each with different deps
[13:12] <renatu> hey guys I am not able to download any jenkins generated zip file
[13:12] <renatu> is that I know problem?
[13:13] <davmor2> pmcgowan: fair enough
[13:25] <brendand> thostr_, if the silo adds new functionality did you add test cases for that to the test plan?
[13:25] <jgdx> cihelp: jenkins.qa.u.c down?
[13:25] <brendand> thostr_, or even if it fixes bugs
[13:26] <jgdx> cihelp: scratch that, just some 404s (e.g. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-system-settings-ci/1354/ )
[13:27] <cprov> jgdx: right, it's seems to be (mostly) available.
[13:27] <thostr_> brendand: silo 9 just changes the renderer to horizontal list
[13:28] <jgdx> cprov, thanks. Are things unpublished or is that 404 an error?
[13:28] <brendand> thostr_, if it changes the behaviour there should still be a test case
[13:28] <retoaded> jgdx, looks like 1354 and 1355 failed to publish
[13:28] <jgdx> retoaded, ack, thanks.
[13:29] <retoaded> jgdx, they have been re-published and should be available now
[13:29] <jgdx> retoaded, hey, awesome. Thank you
[13:29] <retoaded> jgdx, np
[13:33] <sil2100> GPU hang-up... thought I wouldn't see those anymore
[13:43] <davmor2> thostr_: hmmmmmm you silo-008 may of fixed the issue, but it re-revealed another issue, if at any time you put the device in plane mode and take it out and then restart the device you see no sims :( /me reflashes his phone
[13:44] <sil2100> davmor2: be sure to update the testing plan!
[13:44] <sil2100> :)
[13:46] <davmor2> sil2100: the bug needs fixing first then you update the testplan, if you do it now you leave a lot of people having to reflash their phone to get them working again
[13:49] <brendand> thostr_, when we play music from the scope, is it supposed to be the case that the music stops when we change the scope?
[13:57] <thostr_> brendand: no, that is not supposed to happen
[13:58] <brendand> thostr_, it's happening in utopic already
[13:58] <brendand> thostr_, i need to reflash and see is it in RTM
[13:59] <brendand> thostr_, did this change already land in utopic?
[14:00] <thostr_> brendand: yes
[14:01] <thostr_> brendand: I just retested on rtm and it works...
[14:02] <thostr_> brendand: or, maybe I misunderstood you: so music is supposed to play if it's playing in music app that was activated via preview. music is supposed to stop when using the play controls on preview
[14:10] <thostr_> davmor2: do you still see the networking issues after reflashing? if so, please talk directly to satoris
[14:11] <davmor2> thostr_: no it is always fixed on a fresh flash but it is a critical issue, not being able to turn off the device after using aeroplane mode is not fun
[14:12] <thostr_> satoris: ^
[14:12] <satoris> davmor2: I tried that on krillin and it finds the SIM after reboot just fine.
[14:13] <davmor2> satoris: not for me I rebooted 4 times
[14:13] <satoris> How does it manifest? Does the indicator say "no sim" or is it just empty?
[14:15] <brendand> thostr_, ah ok - that was a confusion then
[14:15] <brendand> thostr_, no problem
[14:19] <davmor2> satoris: one second
[14:25] <sil2100> ogra_: hey! Can I ask you to lead the meeting today, as per every few Tuesdays? ;)
[14:26] <ogra_> sil2100, sure, i assume rob is still off ?
[14:26] <sil2100> ogra_: he mentioned that he doesn't feel too well today so he'll miss the meeting
[14:26] <ogra_> (and we didnt have an image during the day ... so not much to discuss i guess)
[14:26] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks!
[14:27] <sil2100> Oh! Let's maybe kick one now, since there was that meta package upload, right?
[14:27] <sil2100> So much things that I think I forgot about that
[14:27] <sil2100> ogra_: btw. do you know if it's now possible for us to build images from the webiterface for RTM now?
[14:27] <davmor2> satoris: hmmm this is interesting after reflash, now if I click on flight mode it is instantly changed back to online
[14:33] <om26er> davmor2, Hey are we not testing mako much ?
[14:34] <davmor2> om26er: can you actually test mako on the current image please
[14:34] <om26er> davmor2, yes, sure.
[14:35] <om26er> davmor2, thats 218 right ?
[14:36] <davmor2> om26er: possibly let me check
[14:37] <davmor2> om26er: yeap 218
[14:37] <om26er> davmor2, ok, on it.
[14:39] <davmor2> om26er: thanks, if you can alternate it so one day test mako on the ubuntu branch and the next test it on rtm branch that would be awesome it will also make sure we don't introduce massive breakages in mako on either line
[14:39] <om26er> davmor2, how to test the rtm branch ?
[14:39] <om26er> well how to flash it i mean
[14:46] <davmor2> om26er: with or without the --wipe ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed --developer-mode --wipe
[14:47] <om26er> davmor2, ok, understood
[14:49] <davmor2> om26er: nice one :)
[14:52] <sil2100> psivaa: hey! Any news on the CI for click apps?
[14:54] <psivaa> sil2100: not yet. still digging this in #ci
[14:58] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ogra_: I'll upload a new android in a few
[15:04] <camako> what is the rtm equivalent of a ppa url? E.g. ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005
[15:05] <kenvandine> thostr_, i see silo 10 failed prepare, i have some settings branches to land, do you have an eta on this silo?
[15:06] <thostr_> kenvandine: that should land still today... at least that's the plan
[15:06] <kenvandine> thostr_,  although the failure looks like a citrain bug...
[15:06] <kenvandine> NameError: name 'allow_unlisted_sources' is not defined
[15:06] <thostr_> kenvandine: or, we're just missing a reconf
[15:06] <kenvandine> thostr_, cool, i'll wait then
[15:07] <kenvandine> that's a citrain traceback... sil2100 ^^
[15:09] <brendand> camako, they are the same
[15:09] <brendand> camako, are you trying to figure out how to add a ppa on RTM?
[15:10] <camako> brenand, I 'm trying to do : "apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005"
[15:10] <brendand> camako, won't work
[15:10] <brendand> camako, at best it will error out
[15:10] <brendand> camako, at worst it will add a different ppa
[15:10] <davmor2> camako: you need to add it the old fashioned way
[15:10] <brendand> camako, you have to edit sources.list
[15:11] <thostr_> sil2100: can you check what's wrong with silo 10 (utopic)
[15:11] <camako> brendand, ah ok.. thanks
[15:11] <thostr_> sil2100: somehow it cannot find source when doing a reconf
[15:12] <brendand> camako, add 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005/ubuntu-rtm 14.09 main'
[15:12] <brendand> camako, apt-get update, etc etc
[15:12] <camako> brenand thanks a lot
[15:13] <sergiusens> sil2100: line 40 has no silo assigned, how do I go about that?
[15:19] <Mirv> sergiusens: assigning
[15:20] <sergiusens> Mirv: thanks, I thought it was assigned in parallel; do I need to ask explicitly?
[15:21] <Mirv> sergiusens: no, it's just that assigning it before the other one is ready for publishing is not useful. but maybe I should assign them both at the same time anyway.
[15:22] <Mirv> sergiusens: I kicked a build for you too at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-010-1-build/10/console <- after that's ready, it has uploaded the packages to the rtm silo (where they'll still be building even though it says it's "built")
[15:23] <sergiusens> Mirv: yeah, I thought the sync: magic would take care of the need to copy, which was the reason for it, as it was manual
[15:24] <Mirv> sergiusens: we try to make it look like it's all magical, but in reality we kick the assignments and builds at some specific times :)
[15:31] <Mirv> ralsina: Chipaca: ^ the ubuntu-push MP is unapproved
[15:31] <ralsina> yeah yeah, I see that
[15:31] <ralsina> sorry, approved it now
[15:31] <alecu_> cprov: Hi! I'm getting 404s for all jenkins links in this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/unity-scope-click/more-refreshing/+merge/232946
[15:32] <ralsina> sorry Mirv, forgot to push the button here
[15:32] <Mirv> ralsina: ok, thanks
[15:33] <alecu_> cprov: ah, the "trigger to rebuild" page said something about a failure while publishing; I've click the button to retry that.
[15:33] <Mirv> ogra_: if you're around still, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-015-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_ubuntu-push_0.63.2+14.10.20140902-0ubuntu1.diff <- ack for dropping libwhoopsie-dev b-d and adding liburl-dispatcher1-dev b-d
[15:33] <Mirv> dbarth: not approved https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/libaccounts-glib/packaging/+merge/232892
[15:34] <sergiusens> Mirv: the souce copy created a changelog from the start of existence to now instead of the latest; is that expected?
[15:34] <alecu_> well, it does not seem to fix it
[15:34] <sergiusens> oh, you added ~rtm
[15:35] <sergiusens> I though seb128 said not to change the version as it was a sync
[15:35] <Mirv> sergiusens: oh, I think I noticed something similar with some other package. sil2100 to ping about that changelog filling.
[15:36] <sergiusens> it's because the version was mangled with most likely
[15:36] <Mirv> sergiusens: the auto-sync system adds the ~rtm, so it's not actual sync but it downloads the package, changes version and uploads it.
[15:36] <sergiusens> sil2100: ^
[15:36] <sergiusens> Mirv: well, it needs a version bump instead of a change, if so, right?
[15:40] <Mirv> sergiusens: ~rtm is deliberate (~ means it's lower version than in utopic), but I'm not sure about the reasons for going for that. maybe to help syncing up later from u+1.
[15:41] <Mirv> I did my first manual rtm syncs with just source copy before this train sync:N method became possible
[15:41] <sergiusens> Mirv: can I get that instead until the ugly changelog issue is fixed?
[15:45] <Mirv> sergiusens: done.
[15:45] <Mirv> it's possible sil is attacking also that issue at the moment, since he's been working on the sync feature today too.
[15:59] <sergiusens> Mirv: thanks
[16:00] <sergiusens> Mirv: changelog looks nice now ;-)
[16:03] <thostr_> Mirv: could you check silo 10 and do a reconf? something seems broken there
[16:08] <Mirv> thostr_: reconf done.
[16:08] <camako> brendand, I added a "deb ..." line to the sources.list but now I'm getting :
[16:09] <camako> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net 14.09 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 85504128ECF1204C
[16:09] <brendand> camako, ignore it
[16:09] <brendand> camako, or you can go through a dance to get rid of it, but it's not really worth the time
[16:09] <camako> brendand, ok thx
[16:09] <camako> brendand, as long as it's added that's all I care
[16:10] <camako> :-)
[16:15] <brendand> thostr_, this silo isn't very good at generating the thumbnails for the video carousel
[16:15] <brendand> thostr_, thing is i can't really say it was any better before :/
[16:23] <elopio_> plars: I replied to your email. I saw sil2100 asking Mirv about the reminders package in jenkins run, but I'm not sure if the got anywhere.
[16:32] <thostr_> brendand: that silo doesn't touch the video thumbnailing
[16:45] <dbarth> Mirv: oops again; sorry
[16:46] <dbarth> now fixed
[16:47] <om26er> davmor2, image looks good.
[16:48] <davmor2> om26er: nice :)
[16:48] <davmor2> sil2100, ogra_: ^
[16:48] <davmor2> ogra_: that's mako 218
[16:49] <ogra_> davmor2, thats the unity8 landing ?
[16:49] <davmor2> ogra_: no image testing on 218 ubuntu branch
[16:49] <ogra_> ah
[17:07] <brendand> thostr_, sign-off granted. there are lots of issues with generating previews though - are you aware of them?
[17:21] <camako> Hi Ursinha, ubuntu-rtm/landing-005 is ready for QA testing... I marked it on the sheet as green.. Do I need to do anything else, or let anyone from QA know?
[17:26] <kenvandine> thostr_, i see silo 10 seems to have been fixed and prepare worked
[17:27] <kenvandine> thostr_, is it ready to build?  or waiting for something else?
[17:28] <Ursinha> camako: I think that's something for trainguards, but I'd also like to know :)
[17:28] <Ursinha> sil2100: how does that work?
[17:35] <camako> Ursinha, o ok.. title shows you as the Vanguard, that's why I was asking you :-)
[17:38] <ogra_> camako, vanguard != train support ... Ursinha doesnt waer the right hat :)
[17:38] <ogra_> *wear
[17:38] <camako> ok sorry my bad
[17:40] <Ursinha> ogra_: do you know what's next when something is ready for QA? should one add that to the signoff board?
[17:41] <Ursinha> hmm, probably
[17:41] <ogra_> i think QA does that themselves
[17:41] <ogra_> after skimming over the spreadsheet
[17:41] <ogra_> ( brendand may correct me :) )
[18:02] <brendand> Ursinha, if you have permissions you may feel free :)
[18:03] <brendand> Ursinha, anyway by tonight/tomorrow at the latest it will happen auto-magically
[18:03] <Ursinha> brendand: I don't think I have permissions
[18:03] <Ursinha> I want to know because whenever people ask on #ubuntu-ci-eng, I want to know the right answer to inform them
[18:03] <Ursinha> brendand: got it
[18:04] <Ursinha> automagically is good
[18:04] <Ursinha> :)
[18:21] <bzoltan1> Is here anybody who could assign a silo?
[18:29] <robru> bzoltan1: apologies, I wasn't feeling well this morning, but I'm here now. what you need?
[18:29] <sil2100> sergiusens: which ugly changelog bug?
[18:29]  * sil2100 got back just now as well
[18:30] <robru> bzoltan1: line 44 got silo 1
[18:31] <robru> boiko: line 45 got silo 3
[18:32] <boiko> robru: wow, that was fast! nice, thanks! I will add more MRs to that though, but I can ping you once I'm done with the list
[18:33] <robru> boiko: oh haha sorry, I just woke up and didn't notice it wasn't marked ready yet. yeah I can reconfig it when you need.
[18:34] <sil2100> sergiusens: so, the changelog bug that it's included in the changes file I'll fix soon, it seems the build package script passes some wrong flag during bzr bd
[18:34] <boiko> robru: I won't complain, I like when silo assignment is quick like that :D
[18:49] <thostr_> can I get a silo for line 35?
[18:52] <robru> thostr_: ok you got rtm4
[18:53] <thostr_> thanks
[18:53] <robru> bregma: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-2-publish/10/artifact/packaging_changes_unity8-desktop-session_1.0.12+14.10.20140829-0ubuntu1.diff i don't understand why you drop two different .install files but only one binary package stanza is being deleted from debian/control? surely you should keep debian/unity8-desktop-session-mir.install
[18:53] <robru> thostr_: you're welcome
[18:55] <bregma> robru, if a source package produces a single binary dpkg gets very confused if you supply a .install file instead of just packaging all the build products -- you need to add specialization to the dh rules -- that's more work than just removing the unused .install files
[18:57] <sil2100> sergiusens: I... think I might know what's up
[18:59] <robru> bregma: ah sorry, assumed there was more than one other binary package there. duh
[19:05] <bzoltan1> robru:  thanks
[19:06] <ogra_> sil2100, fyi there was a new device tarball uploaded for krillin ... that bumped the image number to 12
[19:06] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks
[19:08] <robru> bzoltan1: you're welcome
[19:13] <robru> Saviq: you got rtm8
[19:17] <Saviq> robru, hum, that is already in rtm3...
[19:19] <Saviq> robru, ah no, you're right... although I thought I already had an rtm silo for it..
[19:19] <Saviq> robru, right, silo 7
[19:19] <robru> Saviq: hm, ok, i'll fix it
[19:22] <sil2100> sergiusens, Mirv: I just fixed the changelog thing
[19:22] <sil2100> sergiusens, Mirv: in the end it seemed to be a one-liner ;/
[19:30] <sil2100> thostr_: ping
[19:30] <sil2100> thostr_: are you still around?
[19:31] <thostr_> kind of
[19:32] <sil2100> thostr_: a quick question then :)
[19:32] <thostr_> shoot
[19:33] <sil2100> thostr_: so, as you might or might not have heard, we have found the upload that caused our overall problems with gst and such
[19:33] <sil2100> thostr_: it seems to be thumbnailer 1.2+14.10.20140827.1-0ubuntu1
[19:33] <thostr_> yes, I already talk to jhodapp to get more info
[19:33] <thostr_> and asked jussi to revert
[19:33] <sil2100> thostr_: can we revert it for now until it's fixed?
[19:34] <sil2100> I can revert it in the archive, and you just work on the real fix then
[19:34] <thostr_> if nothing else breaks you can revert...  but it needs more testing as  we had some more changes afterwards
[19:35] <sil2100> Right, yeah... so, I could revert both, but now there's the question if it won't break anything indeed
[19:36] <thostr_> a later fix was about thumbnail resolution, so reverting this shouldn't break anything
[19:36] <sil2100> thostr_: although I see the recent change was not anything crucial
[19:36] <sil2100> Yeah
[19:36] <sil2100> Ok, let me prepare a revert anyway
[19:36] <thostr_> and the thumbnail extraction from music files wasn't used yet
[19:36] <thostr_> so that can be reverted as well
[19:36] <thostr_> (that wasn't yet in rtm anyway)
[19:37] <thostr_> so, you might be save actually
[19:37] <popey> sil2100: will that revert be done today?
[19:37] <sil2100> popey: yes
[19:38] <sil2100> thostr_: thanks!
[19:38] <sil2100> popey: I'm doing it now :)
[19:38] <sil2100> Sooooo, we might be FREE soon
[19:38] <sil2100> Awww, thumbnailer is in main, darn
[19:39] <sil2100> ogra_: are you around for an upload
[19:50] <ToyKeeper> robru, sil2100: I'm in bed with a cold today, but with any luck I'll be able to clear some silos tonight.  Not sure how long this will last.
[19:51] <robru> ToyKeeper: haha, must be something going around, I had to sleep in this morning as well. take care, catch up later! ;-)
[19:51] <sil2100> ;)
[19:54] <sil2100> popey: asking slangasek now to upload the revert for me
[20:02] <popey> k
[20:09] <sil2100> hmmm
[20:13] <slangasek> right, so, thumbnailer uploaded
[20:13] <slangasek> but why is *anything* still using gst0.10?
[20:18] <rsalveti> slangasek: qtmultimedia is still using gst0.10 by default, for example
[20:19] <slangasek> yes, the question is /why/
[20:19] <rsalveti> probably because they didn't get the resources to migrate to gst1.0
[20:19] <slangasek> well, gst0.10 is whatever the superlative form of "obsolete" is
[20:23] <brendand> camako, that's a biggy - going to be a while for testing it
[20:24] <camako> brenand, will you be going through the Mir test plan or do you have other tests?
[20:24] <camako> brendand ^^
[20:28] <brendand> camako, our policy for landings at that level is to run a full system test plan
[20:29] <camako> brendand, ok sounds good... If you do refer to the mir test plan and something is unclear to you, please do ping me thanks
[21:30] <kenvandine> robru, has anyone looked at why ubuntu silo 10 is failing to prepare?
[21:30] <kenvandine> NameError: name 'allow_unlisted_sources' is not defined
[21:30] <robru> kenvandine: nope, haven't looked yet
[21:31] <kenvandine> i tried bugging sil2100 about it earlier, but he never responded
[21:31] <kenvandine> i need thostr_ to be able to land his stuff... so i can get another settings silo ready :)
[21:32] <robru> kenvandine: sorry in a meeting, will look at it shortly. dashboard didn't report an error
[21:32] <kenvandine> no worries
[21:32] <kenvandine> yeah, it still thinks it's preparing
[21:32] <kenvandine> but it isn't :)
[21:38] <boiko> robru: in the spreadsheet, do the MRs need to be separate by spaces still, or can we place one MR per line now?
[21:38] <robru> boiko: spaces or lines should be fine
[21:39] <boiko> robru: nice! I remember in the past it would break, but that was long ago and I never took the time to ask about it again :) thanks
[21:42] <sergiusens> boiko: I've been doing lines for ever
[21:43] <boiko> sergiusens: nice, I'll start using it now :)
[21:44] <sergiusens> boiko: yeah, spaces make it too hard to read
[21:44] <boiko> yep
[22:06] <camako> elopio, saw your comment on Mir testing. You're talking abt mir test plan right?
[22:06] <robru> boiko: yeah you're welcome. as far as I remember, the code that parses that spreadsheet field is just python that says 'line.split()' or whatever, so any whitespace should work
[22:07] <elopio> camako: yes, I'm talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/Mir
[22:16] <camako>  elopio, brendand, just a heads up that testing on the ubuntu-rtm/landing-005 silo needs to be completed before anything else lands for its rdeps (unity-system-compositor, qtmir, platform-api). Otherwise, it could invalidate our own testing.. We make sure this happens when releasing to ubuntu.. not sure if you take this into account or not...
[23:49] <Saviq> robru, don't --bootstrap krillin
[23:49] <Saviq> robru, that's why it's hanging (yeah, a bug in u-d-f still, but will let you flash actually)