| fmarier | so it looks like systemd is going to fix everything that sucks in distros http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/debconf14/webm/A_glimpse_into_a_systemd_future.webm | 00:17 |
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| G | fmarier: is that the 'systemd-will-do-everything-by-btrfs' thing? | 00:50 |
| fmarier | G: no it's more like "systemd-is-adding-new-daemons-and-tools-to-fix-all-the-problems-we-run-into" | 00:52 |
| G | fmarier: oh right, I'll have to watch that then | 00:53 |
| fmarier | for e.g. something to automatically create system users as needed, which will replace the dirty hacks that we have to put in maintainer scripts at the moment | 00:53 |
| fmarier | i'm looking forward to that particular one | 00:53 |
| G | The latest one is http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html | 00:53 |
| fmarier | hm, i might indeed need to grab a large cup of tea before reading that one | 00:57 |
| G | Yeah, re-reading it, I can see the logic, but I'm currently cringing at the idea of such things as "what happens when you add NFS to the mix" etc | 00:58 |
| fmarier | surely systemd will rewrite NFS ;) | 00:59 |
| olly | If systemd does solve all our problems, it'll just replace them with a whole new set of problems | 01:09 |
| G | don't.. joke.. about it :P | 01:09 |
| olly | Like pulse audio did | 01:10 |
| olly | Except without solving anything afaics | 01:11 |
| G | yeah, Pulseaudio kinda-works for me, but ALSA/ESD worked better imo | 01:14 |
| G | tbh, I find the Windows audio subsystems more problem inducing than Pulse these days | 01:14 |
| olly | It does seem better behaved these days | 01:29 |
| olly | Ubuntu pushed it too soon which didn't help | 01:30 |
| G | olly: yeah, Fedora also pushed it way too early as well | 04:47 |
| mwhudson | lennart is a bit of a nutter, but bits of esd were written by rasterman and he's definitely worse :) | 08:11 |
| G | true, esd was certainly worse than ALSA | 08:22 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 19:08 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:26 |
| hads | morning | 20:35 |
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