[00:04] <dustinspringman> thank you pmatulis, I'm reading into it now.
[00:20] <dustinspringman> it appears, though I probably wont know for sure for a bit, that doing apt-get update and upgrade have resolved the issue.. pppd is no longer stacking up and all my clients are connecting and I'm only using 1% of my CPU now...
[00:27] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: sysstat package is great for logging a history of used resources.  dstat package is good for realtime
[00:27] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: thanks for that, I'll give those a shot. so far no pppd creep!
[00:55] <cyclob|work> hi guys, how do i stop libreoffice 4.2 from autostarting on boot on 14.04?
[00:56] <pmatulis> cyclob|work: how is that a ubuntu server question?
[00:56] <cyclob|work> cause i'm running ubuntu server?
[00:58] <TJ-> cyclob|work: See the channel topic, "For general (not server specific) support, try #ubuntu"
[01:05] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: it came back.. but I was able to use sysstat and dstat to find the issue!
[01:06] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: oh nice.  what was it?
[01:06] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: pptp was using a plugin to log client connection/disconnections.. but that was eating CPU like cray cray
[01:06] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: i see, you disabled it then?
[01:07] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: I commented out the logging plugin from /etc/ppp/pptpd.conf and boom. 3% avg CPU load as expected.
[01:07] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: sweet, nicely done
[01:08] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: thanks for the tip on those tools, those are mucho helpful
[01:10] <jezeniel> Any upstart users active here?
[01:10] <pmatulis> jezeniel: i suppose we're all upstart users here, was'up?
[01:11] <dustinspringman> jezeniel: I've been an upstart for nearly a decade! XD
[01:12] <jezeniel> I just have some noob questions.. Can upstart have multiple "start on" and "stop on" clauses?
[01:18] <dustinspringman> jezeniel: I'm unfamiliar with "upstart" are you talking about a specific package or is this the "boot process" you are asking about?
[01:33] <firesword13> So, I'm having problems getting phpbb3 set up on 12.04.
[01:34] <firesword13> I was following the guide located at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhpBB3
[01:36] <firesword13> But when I went to start the part in the browser, I get a general error saying access is denied.
[01:37] <firesword13> The threads I've found are all along the lines of "it used to work, but now it doesn't" whereas mine hasn't worked from the start.
[01:40] <phuh> What do you call these things in BASH?    ${var:=xxx}  ${var:-xxx}
[02:06] <firesword13> So no one has any suggestions about my phpBB3 problem?
[02:35] <firesword13> Well, I suppose I'll try asking again tomorrow.
[03:41] <dustinspringman> okay, thought I had this fixed, but now I an CERTAIN I know what the cause is.... when pptp clients are disconnecting (for whatever reason, gracefully leaving, service interruption, etc) my servers CPU gets a task listed in top that will eat 100% of the CPU if not killed.... obviously this is a problem! Any thoughts on how to stop pppd from eating the CPU when a client disconnects?
[06:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:49] <Vladimir_> I need to append time/date to a file name when it arrives to a directory from a tftp client, do I have to write a bash script or what do I use?
[09:00] <lordievader> Vladimir_: What do you use tftp for?
[09:03] <Vladimir_> lordievader: its either tftp or sftp
[09:03] <Vladimir_> but it doesn't matter, I just need to send files locally to a linux machine
[09:09] <lordievader> Vladimir_: Then use sftp, I thought tftp isn't very efficient. But that might be me.
[09:10] <lordievader> Vladimir_: But if the ctime does not satisfy, then you likely need to write a script that checks a folder. Throws some regex on the filenames and if they don't follow the rules change the name.
[09:10] <Vladimir_> lordievader: it doesn't make any difference for me, all I need it to append date/time to the files
[09:11] <Vladimir_> lordievader: alright=)
[09:12] <Vladimir_> lordievader: do you know if it's possible to set that "If the file comes from a specific IP, THEN add the hostname(or a specific word)" ?
[09:14] <lordievader> Vladimir_: The protocol doesn't do that, however you might find a server capable of doing so.
[09:15] <Vladimir_> lordievader: okey, Oh so UDP doesn't send the source IP ?
[09:16] <lordievader> Vladimir_: It does, but SFTP is only a transfer protocol. It doesn't really do management, that is left up to the server/administrator.
[09:19] <Vladimir_> lordievader: ok, can the linux machine see if a specific file did come from a IP adress?
[09:20] <Vladimir_> otherwise I can just set in my expect script the name of the backupfile to the hostname and then append only time/date on the linux machine(tftp server)
[09:23] <lordievader> Vladimir_: If one user per host is used it can be tracked that way.
[09:25] <Vladimir_> lordievader: you mean that there's only one user on the client(switch device in my case) ?
[09:26] <lordievader> No, user1 maps to client1, user2 maps to client2, etc.
[09:26] <Vladimir_> hmm ok
[09:43] <sacarde> hi
[09:45] <sacarde> do you know how remove the "clear" before login
[09:45] <sacarde> in tty1
[09:47] <Vladimir_> lordievader: Do I have to use any programming och bash scripting language to append timestamp to all the files coming in to a certain directory?
[09:48] <lordievader> sacarde: http://askubuntu.com/questions/58097/how-can-i-remove-the-clear-screen-before-login
[09:48] <lordievader> Vladimir_: Not if you take my method of regex. For <-- that bash will do fine.
[09:49] <Vladimir_> okey
[09:50] <sacarde> lordievader, ok, this is
[09:50] <sacarde> thanks a lot
[09:51] <ertyos> hello there
[09:52] <ertyos> i got sendmail on existing server
[09:54] <ertyos> i simply create mail account using this tutorial : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8214092/
[09:54] <Vladimir_> lordievader: so I can use regex instead of ctime right?
[09:55] <ertyos> but the problem is the account i created not working with mail agent (thnunderbirrd)
[09:55] <ertyos> what to do ?
[09:56] <lordievader> Vladimir_: Err, what I ment was that you check with a few regex if a filename complies with the rules you've set. If it doesn't you rename it (based on the ctime, or something) so it does comply with the set rules.
[10:54] <Vladimir_> lordievader: lordievader: ok, but the only thing I need is a script that checks if a folder has any new files, and if they have then add the current date to the filename
[10:56] <lordievader> Vladimir_: Read my answer again, it does relatively the same.
[10:57] <Vladimir_> lordievader: sorry, i'm logged in on webchat.freenode, it tends to log me out every 30 minuter :/
[11:00] <pmatulis> morning
[11:03] <lordievader> Vladimir_: Err, what I ment was that you check with a few regex if a filename complies with the rules you've set. If it doesn't you rename it (based on the ctime, or something) so it does comply with the set rules.
[11:03] <lordievader> Hey pmatulis, how are you?
[11:29] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: you still here?
[11:48] <pmatulis> dustinspringman: yup
[12:21] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: I've got to run for now, but I've isolated the cause of the rouge pppd 100% cpu usage issue...
[12:23] <dustinspringman> pmatulis: when a pptp tunnel disconnects, the pppd process starts and just eats and eats CPU... I have no idea what to do to get that to stop! I thought it was the logging plugin in the /etc/ppp/pptp.conf, but that only stopped "logged in" logs from hogging CPU.. this disconnect/log process, i've been unable to find.. =/
[12:23] <patdk-wk> don't use pptp?
[12:24] <patdk-wk> it's been over a decade since I know anyone that used pptp
[12:24] <dustinspringman> patdk-wk: what protocol are you recommending?
[12:24] <patdk-wk> ipsec?
[12:25] <dustinspringman> patdk-wk: many of the routers I have to connect to this vpn aggregation point are not ipsec compatible.. =/
[12:25] <patdk-wk> something that isn't ipsec compatable exists?
[12:25] <patdk-wk> that I just find amazing
[12:25] <dustinspringman> **requires additional licenses the customer doesn't care to pay for
[12:26] <patdk-wk> what brand? I'll make sure I stay clear
[12:26] <patdk-wk> but I normally use cisco, and it's included by default there
[12:26] <dustinspringman> sonicwall.. they got the super low budget ones... some other guy engineered the networks, I just took them over..
[12:27] <dustinspringman> pptp works fine for this purpose, its just to connect a central monitoring server to watch all the remote sites... but the server CPU spiking when a client disconnects is problematic..
[12:29] <dustinspringman> gotta run, be back later.
[12:45] <RoyK> dustinspringman: openvpn?
[12:45] <patdk-wk> on sonicwall appliance?
[12:45] <RoyK> probably not :P
[12:50] <lordievader> Wasn't pptp broken? (As in insecure)
[13:23] <eutheria> so i thought i would setup ipv6
[13:23] <eutheria> i use dhcp to configure hosts on the network, i don't give static ip addresses
[13:24] <eutheria> so openwrt and it seems to be assigning ipv6 addresses to desktop clients, but my server doesn't seems to be picking up an ipv6 address
[13:25] <eutheria> do i need to enable something in the interfaces file to enable ipv6 ? i can't see anything in the man page unless i am being dumb
[13:26] <eutheria> iface eth0 inet6 dhcp maybe
[13:27] <Vladimir_> hello
[13:28] <Vladimir_> Is it easy to change the comments color in Vim/Vi ?
[13:28] <Vladimir_> I have a very irritating blue colour which I can't even se because of the black background
[13:53] <jamespage> zul, this will make neutron vpn a little tricky
[13:53] <jamespage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openswan/+publishinghistory
[13:54] <jamespage> jpds_, hows your strongswan stuff coming along upstream?
[13:55] <jpds_> jamespage: What bits, where?
[13:56] <jamespage> jpds_, I thought that you submitted some code upstream in openstack for strongswam support in neutron?
[13:56] <jamespage> maybe I was wrong
[13:56] <jpds_> jamespage: I did, and it's going into Juno-3.
[13:56] <jpds_> jamespage: Last I heard.
[13:56] <jamespage> jpds_, awesome
[13:57] <jamespage> jpds_, openswan got removed from utopic so we need an alternative
[13:57] <jpds_> jamespage: Luckily most of openswan as nothing to do with strongswan.
[14:01] <jpds_> jamespage: There is a problem with the precise package of strongswan which I'm working on.
[14:02] <eutheria> weird iface eth0 inet6 dhcp brings up the ipv4 address
[14:11] <ertyos> hello
[14:12] <ertyos> i got an sendmail user which is not present on /etc/passwd is it normal ?
[14:12] <ertyos> i got sendmail working user which is not present on /etc/passwd
[14:12] <ertyos> is it normailL ?
[14:13] <ertyos> no idea ?
[14:14] <jpds_> !repeat
[14:21] <bananapie> Can I boot to a USB key from grub on a hard disk on a computer whose BIOS doesn't support booting to USB ?
[14:22] <ertyos> any one there ?
[14:22] <jpds_> ertyos: Yep.
[14:22] <jpds_> ertyos: Personally, I don't use sendmail, I think most people use postfix.
[14:23] <cfhowlett> bananapie, nope.
[14:23] <bananapie> bummer.
[14:23] <ertyos> don't care
[14:23] <ertyos> wheter postfix or sendmail
[14:23] <bananapie> My media centre ( mythbuntu ) is on an older p4 that doesn't boot from USB sticks. I want to reinstall it with 14.04 and I don't want to burn a CD. :(
[14:23] <ertyos> it is someoff system related question
[14:23] <zul> jamespage: where is the nova-comptue-vmware charm?
[14:23] <jpds_> jamespage: zhhuabj wrote the patch for strongSwan.
[14:24] <jamespage> zul, in the charm store
[14:24] <zul> jamespage,  right
[14:24] <eutheria> interesting dhclient doesn't register a hostname by default with ipv6
[14:24] <zhhuabj> jpds, jamespage: yeah, I wrote it
[14:24] <ertyos> when you create user, when the user is working correctly with your mail agent and not appearing on the file /etc/passwd and can't change that user using passwd user is it that normal or not ?
[14:25] <bananapie> How often do you guys reinstall your production servers or upgrade to the next LTS ?
[14:26] <eutheria> bananapie: i have a 12.04 server i have no plans to upgrade anytime soon
[14:27] <eutheria> it is really down to what works for you how often you upgrade, what risks etc
[14:28] <jamespage> zhhuabj, awesome - thankyou!
[14:29] <zhhuabj> jamespage: K opens for spec proposals is on Sep 4 based on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan
[14:31] <bananapie> I found this thread on reddit, http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2f3dih/please_help_me_update_security_updates_on/ck5whbl
[14:31] <bananapie> Have I misunderstood this guy's post?
[14:31] <jamespage> zhhuabj, do you know whether strongswan support will land for juno?
[14:32] <zhhuabj> jamespage, jpds, we  need to move strongswan neutron-spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101457/)  from Juno to K after Sep 4, and push some core approver to review it and let it merge
[14:33] <jpds_> zhhuabj: Problem is that leaves us VPNless for Juno.
[14:33] <zhhuabj> jamepage: no, will not land for juno because Juno's spec approval deadline (SAD) is Jul 20 based on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan
[14:38] <zhhuabj> jamespage, jpds, for the neutron-spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101457/, the neutron PTL Kyle give one +2 on Jul 15, but no another core approver to merge the spec after SAD (Jul 20) has passed, so it can't catch up Juno
[15:13] <zul> hallyn: ill do libvirt 1.2.8 this afternoon
[15:33] <caribou> jamespage: FYI, I won't be able to attend the meeting this week
[15:33] <caribou> jamespage: nothing particular to bring up though
[15:33] <jamespage> caribou, ack
[16:00] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[16:01] <eagles0513875> i just upgraded to 12.04.1 and i am getting http://pastebin.com/9RYNWJh8
[16:01] <eagles0513875> my httpd.conf file has disappeared
[16:01] <eagles0513875> any ideas why
[16:04] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Apache 2.2 -> 2.4? Also 12.04.1? Do you mean 12.04.5?
[16:04] <eagles0513875> i have one server on 12.04.1 which upgraded to 2.4 and another on .5 and still on 2.2
[16:04] <eagles0513875> O_o
[16:04] <eagles0513875> should i purge apache and set it up again
[16:04] <eagles0513875> and if i purge it would i lose my vhosts?
[16:05] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Rather check where those packages are coming from.
[16:05] <eagles0513875> not sure if a sudo do-release upgrade to .1 would make a difference
[16:05] <ikonia> no
[16:05] <ikonia> you've installed PPa's again
[16:06] <ikonia> release upgrade won't take you to .1
[16:06] <ikonia> 12.04 ships with apache 2.2
[16:06] <ikonia> so you have a 3rd part repo pulling in 2.4 from soewhere
[16:06] <ikonia> somewhere
[16:06] <eagles0513875> ok seems like i got upgraded to 2.4
[16:06] <eagles0513875> i mean to 14.04
[16:06] <ikonia> yes, because you did do-release-upgrade
[16:07] <eagles0513875> ok now to fix the issues
[16:07] <eagles0513875> what can i do about apache with its missing httpd.conf file
[16:07] <ikonia> what do you mean missing ?
[16:07] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Read the documents about the differences between 2.2 and 2.4.
[16:07] <eagles0513875> lordievader: the release notes?
[16:08] <ikonia> we've had the discussion on 2.2/2.4 differences about 10 times now, you've also had them explained to you in #httpd
[16:08] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Google: apache 2.2 vs 2.4 and you'll find all about it.
[16:08] <eagles0513875> im aware of the vhost differences
[16:09] <eagles0513875> but when i try and start apache i get the error apache2.conf is trying to find httpd.conf for some reason which cant be correct
[16:09] <ikonia> why can't that be correct ?
[16:09] <ikonia> why is the error message it's giving you "not correct"
[16:10] <eagles0513875> ikonia: what im not understanding is why would it look for that file if it has been removed
[16:10] <ikonia> who said it's been removed ?
[16:10] <ikonia> who said this is the stock config
[16:10] <ikonia> you don't really appear to be %100 sure of what you are doing with your machine, so who knows what you've done
[16:10] <ikonia> eagles0513875: try actually looking at the config and see what / where it's including that file
[16:10] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:10] <ikonia> instead of saying "that error is wrong" fix the error
[16:10] <ikonia> accept the error is correct and resolve the issue
[16:12] <eagles0513875> there is # Include all the user configurations: Include httpd.conf should i comment that out?
[16:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: depends,
[16:16] <ikonia> apply thought
[16:16] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:27] <lordievader> eagles0513875: With common-sense and a bit of Google you can go far ;)
[17:38] <xibalba_> hey folks, have a few newb questions for you. whats the best, in terms of docs/compatibility/etc..., virtualization engine to use on ubuntu-server? kvm/xen?
[17:38] <xibalba_> i guess whats supported right out of the box
[17:38] <xibalba_> i just need 1 single physical box, running a few smaller ubuntu boxes as vms
[17:40] <pmatulis> xibalba_: kvm
[17:40] <xibalba_> ok, any recommended intro docs for it? i come from a heavy vmware background
[17:40] <xibalba_> this looks like a good start, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[17:40] <pmatulis> xibalba_: yes, plus the ubuntu server guide
[17:41] <xibalba_> anything in particular out of the server guide? i've been running unbuntu server vms for a while, just never layered on virtualization
[17:42] <pmatulis> xibalba_: yes, the virtualization section.  LXC is also good
[17:42] <xibalba_> LXC is similar to Docker, correct?
[17:44] <xibalba_> lxc > libvirt ?
[17:45] <patdk-wk> !best
[17:45] <patdk-wk> !poll
[17:45] <patdk-wk> damned bot
[17:46] <xibalba_> ha
[17:46] <patdk-wk> well, libvirt is generic
[17:47] <patdk-wk> kvm is simular to esxi
[17:47] <patdk-wk> lxc is like openvz
[17:47] <patdk-wk> docker is build around lxc, I believe
[17:47] <patdk-wk> libvirt is a generic lib, to managethem all, basically
[17:48] <xibalba_> i think kvm will work best for me since its the closest thing i'm use to for now
[17:49] <xibalba_> i definetly have plans to check out container based virtualization
[17:49] <patdk-wk> I used to use it
[17:49] <patdk-wk> gave it all up, cause of management issues
[17:49] <patdk-wk> just easier to update and upgrade full vm's for me, than containers
[17:49] <xibalba_> understood
[17:50] <patdk-wk> lost about 15% performance, but heh
[17:50] <xibalba_> yeah not super concerned on the performance side since it's just a personal box
[17:50] <xibalba_> 15% lost on containers though?
[17:50] <xibalba_> thats pretty significant
[17:51] <sarnold> xibalba_: I think patdk-wk meant using VMs was a 15% performance loss compared to containers..
[17:51] <patdk-wk> yes, loss using vmware, vs using containers
[17:52] <patdk-wk> but that was before my cpu's where ept enabled
[17:52] <patdk-wk> likely only 10% loss now
[17:52] <xibalba_> ah ok
[17:52] <xibalba_> yeah our procs at work at so beefy its neglible
[17:53] <patdk-wk> heh, I have new 24core dual socket systems
[17:53] <patdk-wk> they are not beefy enough
[17:53] <patdk-wk> 24core 2.9ghz I think they are
[17:54] <patdk-wk> ah, 2.7ghz
[17:54] <sarnold> very nice
[17:55] <patdk-wk> ms sql with 3tb db (spanned over 48 ssd's) still ownes the box
[17:55] <xibalba_> that is a beeeeeefy database
[17:55] <xibalba_> whats running on it
[17:55] <patdk-wk> everything the batch job gets queued up, vmware shifts all load from that box, to the others :)
[17:56] <patdk-wk> just batch processing
[17:56] <patdk-wk> just recomputing all data links every month
[17:56] <patdk-wk> as more infomation comes in, or gets more accurate
[17:56] <sarnold> ahhh, that's why 48 ssds rather than fusionio, heh?
[17:56] <patdk-wk> so we can't depend on the last links to be accurate or valid
[17:57] <patdk-wk> as they where only the best guess at that time
[17:57] <patdk-wk> we looked at fusionio
[17:57] <patdk-wk> just didn't pan out as a workable solution
[17:57] <patdk-wk> this is actually a pure system
[17:57] <patdk-wk> so the san ssd backs all the esxi hosts
[17:58] <xibalba_> are you using RDMs for that DB ?
[17:58] <patdk-wk> no
[17:58] <xibalba_> is your DB spread across multiple VMDKs then?
[17:59] <patdk-wk> ya, like 10 :)
[17:59] <xibalba_> also do you prefer NFS or iSCSI for mounting your SAN to your ESXI boxes? and why
[17:59] <patdk-wk> well, considering, nfs sucks for that workcase?
[17:59] <xibalba_> other than, my SAN doesn't support NFS thats what a NAS is for =P
[17:59] <patdk-wk> nfs is limited to a single ip connection
[17:59] <xibalba_> does it?
[17:59] <patdk-wk> so you want to limit it to 10gbit?
[17:59] <xibalba_> ah so you're using multipathing?
[18:00] <patdk-wk> well, 4 fc channels
[18:00] <xibalba_> ok, we took a slightly different approach to our NFS mounts. By mounting the volumes from the NAS on off-by-one IPs and using IP HASH as the port-channel alogirthm on the switches
[18:00] <xibalba_> so 192.168.1.220:/vol1
[18:00] <xibalba_> 192.168.1.221:/vol2
[18:00] <xibalba_> etc
[18:01] <patdk-wk> yes, but your still limited to a single nic port per nfs mount
[18:01] <patdk-wk> there is no way to fix that
[18:01] <xibalba_> correct, not till pnfs4
[18:01] <xibalba_> http://www.pnfs.com/
[18:01] <patdk-wk>  Ialso dislike the additional overhead of svmotion on nfs
[18:01] <xibalba_> oh w/out VAAI support you mean?
[18:02] <patdk-wk> you can have vaai support on nfs?
[18:02] <xibalba_> i believe so, on the netapps
[18:02] <patdk-wk> on nfs? I understand iscsi
[18:02] <xibalba_> https://library.netapp.com/ecmdocs/ECMP1237939/html/html/GUID-735E5961-E3FB-4105-A8F8-37F6444B68BC.html
[18:02] <xibalba_> Installing the NetApp® NFS Plug-in 1.0.20 for VMware® VAAI
[18:02] <patdk-wk> but scsi vaai commands, I don't see how that can exist on nfs
[18:02] <patdk-wk> heh, plugin :)
[18:02] <xibalba_> yeah
[18:02] <patdk-wk> not real vaai, but a vaai emulator
[18:03] <xibalba_> correct
[18:03] <patdk-wk> nope, I dropped all my netapps
[18:03] <xibalba_> oh?
[18:03] <patdk-wk> but I notice, vmware when it svmotions a vmdk, it will just move the data, if it's thin, it just moves what you expect
[18:04] <xibalba_> quick backwards tangent : in this doc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation , i see references to 10.04/9.10, is it outdated?
[18:04] <patdk-wk> but on nfs, it reads it as if it's thick, then writes it as thin
[18:04] <xibalba_> ^ yes i hate this !
[18:04] <patdk-wk> so a 1tb empty vmdk on nfs, takes forever :(
[18:04] <xibalba_> it causes SDRS to take much longer than it should
[18:04] <patdk-wk> and my last issue with nfs, why I discounted it in my first attempts to use it
[18:05] <patdk-wk> was no sioc
[18:05] <xibalba_> ah we've got SIOC on our NS
[18:05] <patdk-wk> I keep having a single vm, pounding the nfs disks, and causing the others not to get reasonable io
[18:05] <xibalba_> though i dont think the SIOC is properly working
[18:05] <xibalba_> as i've had the same observation as you
[18:05] <patdk-wk> well, I don't even know of esxi does that now, I did these tests in 4.0 was released :)
[18:06] <patdk-wk> iscsi is more to deal with, but it seems to solve my isuses, so I'm happy :)
[18:06] <patdk-wk> or I just use fc directly
[18:06] <xibalba_> yeah the config is more involved, but its only one time
[18:06] <patdk-wk> two clusters use fc, one uses iscsi, and one uses das (with iscsi for just when upgrading)
[18:07] <patdk-wk> actually, since the multipath vmotion, it's really the same
[18:07] <patdk-wk> make 1 nic per port for vmotion and iscsi, repeat
[18:07] <xibalba_> yup
[18:08] <xibalba_> should KVM be mentioned here in the list: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/virtualization.html
[18:09] <patdk-wk> it is
[18:09] <patdk-wk> linking to kvm would be useless
[18:09] <patdk-wk> as it's just a processer instructions
[18:09] <patdk-wk> pointing to qemu would be more useful, as it's the program that actually uses kvm
[18:10] <patdk-wk> but they link instead to the usermanagement interfaces to those tools
[18:10] <patdk-wk> being libvirt, or ubuntu cloud, ...
[19:17] <zul> hallyn: your cgmanager patch fails with 1.2.8
[19:49] <hallyn> zul: leave the patch commented out and sling over the .dsc
[20:39] <xibalba_> im reading through this KVM doc, http://www.howtogeek.com/117635/how-to-install-kvm-and-create-virtual-machines-on-ubuntu/, and i'm looking for something thats more command line oriented. so i can run it on a server at my colo w/out having to do X11 fwding to my desktop
[20:41] <TJ-> xibalba_: virsh and libvirt might be what you're looking for
[20:42] <xibalba_> k i found this and it looks more cli;
[20:42] <xibalba_> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-12.10
[20:43] <xibalba_> can i get more VMs out of my host w/KVM vs VirtualBox?
[20:43] <xibalba_> since KVM has a shared kernel space
[21:21] <Seranok> how do i determine why a cURL request is taking 5-15 seconds from my server?
[21:21] <Seranok> it only takes < .2 seconds from my browser
[21:22] <Seranok> is there a request queue?
[21:35] <sarnold> Seranok: are your browser and curl running on the same machine?
[23:26] <Seranok> sarnold: no
[23:27] <Hen0k> ..
[23:27] <sarnold> Seranok: does one have an IP that resolves quickly and the other have an IP that doesn't resolve quickly or doesn't resolve at all?
[23:28] <Seranok> sarnold: no, i tried pinging from both machines, takes the same amount of time
[23:28] <Seranok> that's why i'm wondering if there's some http request queue or i'm being throttled
[23:28] <sarnold> Seranok: I'm curious if your web server is trying to do reverse lookups on the IPs; from the server, run 'host <ip>' for each IP of your clients
[23:30] <Seranok> what would that show?
[23:31] <sarnold> Seranok: if one resolves instantly and the other doesn't resolve at all, then I'll say "go turn off domain name logging in your access.log"  :)
[23:31] <Guest79575> I have trouble with firewall I setup using UFW on 14.04 server on AWS/EC2: 'ufw status' firewall is enabled, rules look good to I can SSH into the machine, but on reboot I cannot get back in. So I stop the instance, detach the root volume, and re-attach and mount it on another machine where I disable UFW on startup, then re-attach to the first machine and boot it and SSH in fine, activate UFW and still SSH in fine, reboot and
[23:31] <Guest79575>  again I cannot SSH in.  Did something change here between 12 and 14?
[23:31] <sarnold> Seranok: if both resolve instantly or both fail to resolve, it'll mean someone else needs to take a crack at your question :) hehe
[23:43] <Seranok> sarnold: i think that's the issue