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mbruzekGood morning Juju.  Question.  Where does the bash function ch_get_file live?13:40
mbruzekmarcoceppi ^ ?13:41
marcoceppimbruzek: that's a name I've not heard in a long long time13:42
mbruzekOne of the lesser used charms is failing to find this function, I vaguely remember it.13:42
mbruzekIt uses wget and checks the hash value.13:43
marcoceppihttp://i.imgur.com/YO0lXro.gif13:43
mbruzekmarcoceppi, the charm liferay is FAILING to find it actually.13:43
marcoceppimbruzek: yeah, that's charmhelpers 1.013:43
marcoceppithe charm will likely need to add a PPA to continue to function on precise13:44
mbruzekDoes it no longer exist in the latest CH version?13:44
marcoceppino13:45
marcoceppicurrent charmhelpers is only python13:46
marcoceppiatm13:46
marcoceppithis is when charmhelpers lived in charmtools13:46
marcoceppipre charm-tool 1.0.013:46
mbruzekWell it looks like it tries to install charm-helper-sh which can not be found.13:46
marcoceppiright13:46
marcoceppithe charm needs a ppa13:46
mbruzekAdd a ppa or change the code to use wget?13:47
marcoceppihttps://launchpad.net/~charmers/+archive/ubuntu/charm-helpers13:47
marcoceppiadd a ppa, this also does the verification13:47
marcoceppiwill only work on precise13:47
marcoceppithe ppa is to enable those older charm to continue working13:47
mbruzekOk thanks.13:47
jcastromarcoceppi, is today new queue day?13:51
marcoceppijcastro: open your eyes and seeee13:51
jcastroI still see the old queue13:52
lazyPowerJoshStrobl: I do actually, i'll send it to you in a pm.13:52
jcastrooh, should I get the gui guys to fix the URL?13:52
marcoceppijcastro: well, yeah13:52
marcoceppijcastro: http://review.juju.solutions/13:52
marcoceppijcastro: but not right now13:53
marcoceppithere's still things to be sorted in new rev queue13:53
marcoceppiwell13:53
=== jcastro changed the topic of #juju to: Welcome to Juju! || Docs: http://juju.ubuntu.com/docs || FAQ: http://goo.gl/MsNu4I || Review Queue: http://review.juju.solutions || Unanswered Questions: http://goo.gl/dNj8CP || News and stuff: http://reddit.com/r/juju
marcoceppido what you think is right13:53
jcastrowell, we're the only ones who use the link13:53
jcastroso let's go all in13:53
marcoceppisounds good to me13:53
lazyPowermarcoceppi: looks sharp man! Nice work on applying the design bits14:02
jcastroheya lazyPower14:30
jcastrodid we ever get logstash on trusty? I can't seem to find it14:30
lazyPowerit needed tests14:30
lazyPowerand i was having a big issue with amulet / sentries blocking the tests14:30
jcastroack14:30
lazyPowerbut baseline - is no, its not in trusty yet.14:30
jcastrowhich is the most current one14:30
jcastrologstash-agent or logstash-indexer?14:30
jcastrolazyPower, ^14:35
lazyPowerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~lazypower/charms/trusty/logstash/trunk14:35
lazyPowerthis is a port of the indexer, feature 2 landing would be adding the agent - its a unified deliverable now14:36
lazyPowerready for the kickass part? this woudl also include kibana with feature 214:36
lazyPower*an up to date kibana14:36
jcastrook I'll just link to your personal branch then14:36
jcastroit's a subordinate right?14:37
lazyPowerNope. its a stand alone charm14:39
lazyPowerahhh so the agent would need to be a sub. ok - i follow where you're going with this.14:39
jcastroI think one of the old ones was a sub14:39
lazyPoweryeah, the agent would have been a sub.14:40
lazyPowerbummer I wasn't thinking about that, but upgrading the sub will be fairly straight forward with the work that went into the agent.14:41
lazyPowers/into the agent/into the indexer/14:41
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kwmonroembruzek, have you come across any charms with source behind a "free registration" wall?16:36
kwmonroei'm charming db2 express -- there's an older version in the partners ppa (which is super easy), but the latest version isn't very programatically accessible from ibm.com.16:37
mbruzekkwmonroe no I have not but I could take a look16:38
kwmonroeso i think the options are either update the partners ppa, or stash the tar.gz someplace more accessible (assuming the fine print says that's ok)16:39
mbruzekkwmonroe, could you get the required info (I suspect email, name,etc) and send an HTTP PUT ?16:39
mbruzekkwmonroe, can you link me to the wall?16:39
kwmonroembruzek, here's the wall:  https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/preLogin.do?source=swg-db2expressc&S_PKG=dllinux6416:40
mbruzekkwmonroe, this one looks particularly hard with the user having to register.16:42
kwmonroeyeah mbruzek - i'll take a look at the form behind "proceed without an ibmid" and see if i can PUT it.16:43
kwmonroebut even so, that seems a fragile way to get the source :/16:44
mbruzekkmonroe talk with arosales about getting it added to the partner ppa16:44
mbruzekkwmonroe, that is likely the path of least resistance.16:44
kwmonroeack mbruzek - thx16:47
arosaleskwmonroe: adding to the partner PPA I think is a longer term solution that we should take a look at. For that we just need to go through the ubuntu dev process16:48
arosaleskwmonroe: ther other is putting the DB2 binary local to the charm16:48
arosaleskwmonroe: you need to have an EULA in the charm and a config set for the charm user to accept. mbruzek did this for the websphere liberty lite charm.16:48
arosaleskwmonroe: and the third option is building a .deb on lp in a custom PPA16:49
arosaleskwmonroe: putting the binary locally may be your fastest option with an EULA config set16:50
arosalesin parrallel we can work on updating the partner ppa16:50
arosaleslocally to the charm that is.16:50
kwmonroegotcha arosales - thanks for the options.. i'm gonna put my legal cap on and make sure this is "free to deploy" like the marketing flyer says.16:50
arosaleskwmonroe: ping mbruzek and check out what he did for the websphere liberty charm16:50
mbruzekarosales, IIRC the websphere charm downloaded the code, but yeah there was an "accept-ibm-license" configuration option in there.16:51
arosalesmbruzek: ya and I think the "accept-ibm-license" portion is the part kwmonroe is intersted in.16:51
arosalesmbruzek: given kwmonroe puts the db2 binary locally to the charm for now.16:52
kwmonroeyeah, i'll take a look at liberty and bug mbruzek16:53
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JoshStroblhey marcoceppi, loving the new review queue! great work man!19:57
hatchis there a way to force destroy a machine on a local deployment? 1.20.6-trusty-amd6420:00
hatchit appears to be stuck in pending20:01
hatchhelp says to use --force but using it says that it's not defined20:04
hatchoh well, hulk smashing :)20:04
* arosales geting some review queue time in.20:05
arosalesmarcoceppi +1 JoshStrobl's comments on the review queue20:05
arosaleshatch: is there a service on the machine?20:06
marcoceppihatch: use terminate-machine with force20:06
marcoceppishould work20:06
hatcharosales: nope it was just hangin out in pending20:06
hatchmarcoceppi: ok I'll remember that for next time20:06
marcoceppidestroy-unit and service don't have a force20:07
arosalesJoshStrobl taking a look at https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/156 now20:08
arosalesmbruzek: ^20:08
mbruzekI will take a look20:08
arosalesmbruzek: you already commented. This is in regards to the Charm Review Process doc20:09
JoshStroblarosales, warming up some food now, will review after :P20:13
JoshStroblback20:15
JoshStroblarosales, oh, I misread20:15
arosalesJoshStrobl: no action from you atm. I was just stating I was going to review20:15
JoshStroblarosales, I thought you said "take a look"20:15
JoshStroblfail :D20:15
arosalesah. My IRC grammer is horrible so I thought it may have been that20:16
arosalesand my message was kind of vague20:16
JoshStroblarosales, no no, I just misread, thats all20:16
arosalesin any case taking a look now20:16
JoshStroblseriously my fault20:16
JoshStroblalrighty20:16
josemarcoceppi: congratulations on the new revq, looks awesome!20:17
JoshStroblmbruzek, sorry I haven't gotten around to working on the reference-reviewers doc yet, been busy with failing tests on some unrelated stuff today. will get around to it tomorrow morning and have something for you to review then.20:19
hatchmarcoceppi:  just fyi - I somehow ended up in the same state and terminate worked thanks20:20
mbruzekNo worries JoshStrobl I am up to my ears in work too.20:20
JoshStroblmbruzek, yea I imagine a lot of crunching even before the sprint!20:20
* mbruzek nods20:21
JoshStroblarosales, going to be afk to help the wife clean our newly rescued old cat, just fyi20:26
arosales JoshStrobl: ack, I'll post comment in the git pull request20:27
jcastromarcoceppi, bah crap20:40
jcastrowe forgot something, where to report bugs on the new queue20:40
jcastrowant them on issues?20:41
JoshStroblarosales, has the storm ended? my email is finally quiet :P21:31
JoshStroblarosales, writing a lengthy response via the comment section in GH ;)21:31
marcoceppijcastro:  on gh21:32
arosalesJoshStrobl: storm ended :-)21:33
JoshStrobl\o/21:33
JoshStroblThanks for all the great feedback.21:33
arosalesJoshStrobl: np. I errored on being more verbose hopeully you filter mail ;-)21:36
JoshStroblarosales, yea, it all goes to a Juju folder in Thunderbird :P21:36
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