| ahoneybun_ | Riddell: apachelogger what are those bug fixes that the Google+ account was talking about? | 01:40 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: If you could look at approving Bug #1364710 with your release team hat on, I'd appreciate it. | 04:03 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1364710 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364710). The error has been logged | 04:04 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:36 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:25 |
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| soee | hiho BluesKaj | 11:40 |
| BluesKaj | hey soee | 11:40 |
| soee | someone said on main channel that cant upgrade kde-connect on trusty (backposrts enabled) due to lower priority of newer version ? | 11:47 |
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| apachelogger | PPA exceeded its size limit (2165.00 of 2048.00 MiB) | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | uff | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | 353 binary packages (2.0 GiB) | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | well that seems excessive | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | and for some reason my system decided that my time should be UTC | 12:34 |
| shadeslayer | UTC is the best | 12:35 |
| soee | :) my laptop since few days from time to time sets my time in bios -2 hours :? | 12:37 |
| yofel | it shouldn't unless you use windows... | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | yeah that's when one OS thinks the bios time should be UTC and the other thinks it should be local | 12:40 |
| Quintasan | Lel | 13:24 |
| Quintasan | I got keys to my new flat | 13:24 |
| Quintasan | The walking distance to the uni is like 3 minutes | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | No more annoying bus commutes | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | More time to waste sleeping or something | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: also, 3 mins back to your home .... | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | Splendid | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | Now I have no excuse not to come home after lectures and work on stuff | 13:26 |
| Quintasan | I can even connect to campus wireless network from the room lol | 13:27 |
| Quintasan | Great success. | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: pingly | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | much fun, ISO broke again because of ubiquity-dm | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: does sddm take into account already running X servers? | 13:36 |
| d_ed | erm possibly not | 13:36 |
| d_ed | that might be the logind issue too. | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | nah can't be | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | because there we just directly boot to sddm | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | but with ubiquity-dm in the picuture, X starts on VT7 | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | and then when you hit "Try Kubuntu" it tries to start sddm | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | I think | 13:38 |
| d_ed | hmm, it does have code that searches for unused VTs | 13:38 |
| d_ed | it'll be in the logs as: qDebug() << "Adding new display" << displayId << "on vt" << terminalId << "..."; | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | I have no logs :S | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | le empty file | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/pending/utopic-desktop-amd64.iso | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | in case you want to check it out | 13:39 |
| * shadeslayer looks at ubiquity-dm | 13:39 | |
| Riddell | guten dias | 13:50 |
| Riddell | I can't speak german, it just comes out as Spanish! | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: fwiw ubiquity-dm broke plasma 5 ISO again | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | idk how | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | why | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | it doesn't make any sense | 13:54 |
| Riddell | fooey | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | it worked | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | yesterday | 13:55 |
| Riddell | I know :( | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | twas darth vader | 13:55 |
| Riddell | this is just the sort of thing I'm worried about in canonical's move away from community made software, we'll get stuck on something fiddly like this | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer: when u arrive in brno | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | also how | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | also spaceships | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | spaceships | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | on wheels | 13:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: in a few hours, I'm enjoying austria's finest cuisine just now | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | I arrive on the 4th | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | also I don't think I have Riddell's catalunyan numba | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | lunchish time | 13:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: jriddell.org/contact.html | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ah, lovely | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: gracias | 13:56 |
| * shadeslayer wonders if USN offers XML feeds | 13:56 | |
| apachelogger | xml... | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | s/xml/rss/ | 13:57 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 13:57 |
| Riddell | this Austrian Double Royal with criss cross fries is a paticular delight | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | bugger off kubotu | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | yes it does | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: lol, u go to austria and eat at mcdo? | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | I should totally write a neonBot plugin | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | information leakage!!!!!!!!! | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what u got against kubotu? | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | except the fact that I think the trello plugin still has a bug | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu plugin then | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | idk | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | plugins | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: since it has a RSS feed, I can automate firefox shizzle a bit more | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | instead of having it on cron | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: yo good man, what's wrong with u | 13:59 |
| kubotu | hi, apachelogger | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | he's drunk | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | why screw u kubotu | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | I am reasonable certain it didn't work the other day | 13:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: where else could I find that great Austrian tradition the McSundae with karamell? | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | maybe the time stamp stuff has a corner case bug | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | cuz the only way for kubotu not to get data is if the server doesn't return anything and that probably only happens if the timestamps are off by a bit | 14:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: does it still fail if you stop and start sddm like I did in testing? | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: .... | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | I am left without words | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | wellsies | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | I am arriving at the train station at 16:37 apparently | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | yeah I'm arriving before you | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | meet you at the hostel | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | also apparently I am on the same train as krake, and maybe there'll even be a bistro, why it is entirely possible that I might be drunk | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: not staying at the hostel, I am staying at the other place 5 minutes away :P | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | but yeah | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | dinner we shall, I'll give someone a ring | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 14:02 |
| * shadeslayer does not like the new maroon 5 album | 14:02 | |
| * apachelogger does not like maroon 5 | 14:03 | |
| apachelogger | it's like every song is the same, like so much the same, like only the lyrics are different | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yep | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | their current album is quite alot like their last one | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: stopping ubiquity and restarting sddm works | 14:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: bah, that explains why my testing worked | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | makes me think ubiquity issue | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | makes me think sddm issue | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | sddm is an issue. | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | actually | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | could be | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | I have 2 X's | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | does it not insist on starting on tty1 yet? | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: so, sddm forces X on tty1 | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | plz to fix | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | because I actually think that is pretty jolly bad from a platform POV if we have some systems on tty1 and others on tty7 | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | also makes support harder than it needs to be | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | it could very well be that ubiquity goes bonkers when it can't find X on tty7 | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | meby | 14:06 |
| * apachelogger is outraged by the austrian railways not being able to offer online ticketing from brno to austria | 14:06 | |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8223786/ | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: y u idle in #opensuse-kde :O | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ | 14:16 |
| * Riddell release dude for plasma and needs to coordinate with packagers | 14:16 | |
| yofel | syping on other distros? :P | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | ^ so who are you spying for :p | 14:17 |
| yofel | us? although I pay more attention to fedora than opensuse | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | the more interesting question is why shadeslayer is in opensuse-kde so he knows that yofel and Riddell are there......... | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I was looking for someone | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | whose nick I don't remember | 14:22 |
| yofel | now that's very helpful, isn't it? :D | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | well, I know he idled in #opensuse-kde | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger nods very slowly | 14:29 | |
| BluesKaj | the opensuse chat was full of juveys when I tried the OS a few yrs back | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | was no place to get help at the time.. totally hopeless | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | not like the adult attitude I see in here everyday :) | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | what adult attitude | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | so how is the plasma 5 iso. Is it stable and working ok ? | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | well, I broke it yesterday | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | needs me and d_ed to sit together and debug it I think | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | ok shadeslayer , crashing freezing etc</ | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | the occassional crash, yeah | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | but I think all of them were fixed in 5.1 | 14:43 |
| BluesKaj | didn't run too well on this intel gpu laptop or on the nvidiagpu desktop either | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | I really should get a SSD on this thing | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | even switching tabs in firefox is slow at times | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | ff is becoming somewhat bloated again..noticed slow loading on the desktop pc ...this laptop is fast with practically everything | 14:55 |
| BluesKaj | still | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | I switched to CFQ a few hours ago | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | lets see what happens | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, CFQ? | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | a io scheduler that supports IO niceness | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: poke, mind looking at the end of http://paste.ubuntu.com/8224245 | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | Qt5 be crashering | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | much fun | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | could the greeter be using kactivitymanager? | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | we have put activities in your greeter, so you can have a prn activity without login | 15:34 |
| snele | shadeslayer: do you plan to backport scheduler changes to 14.04? | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | I am unsure | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | snele: I want to see what happens with 14.10 first | 15:45 |
| snele | shadeslayer: ok | 15:45 |
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| shadeslayer | I am unsure if it would be wise to backport it for 14.04 though, need to check what would be the impact | 15:46 |
| snele | shadeslayer: is there easy way to make a change to from deadline to CFQ? I can test it on 14.04 | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | echo cfq > /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | for a one time change | 15:47 |
| snele | ok thanks | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | for a permanent change, change your boot parameters to accept elevator=cfq | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | or add this file : /etc/udev/rules.d/60-ssd-scheduler.rules | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | with this line : ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", ATTR{queue/rotational}=="1",ATTR{queue/scheduler}="cfq" | 15:48 |
| snele | heh just realised that first thing that I do when I install Kubuntu is to turn off nepomuk/baloo so probably I am not effected by this scheduler change | 15:50 |
| BluesKaj | and not enable akonadi | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | what pita those 2 apps are | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | stop whining go fix it | 15:57 |
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| BluesKaj | apachelogger, i did ...it's still a pain to have to deal with useless default apps that most home users don't need. | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | anyway stuff to do... bbl | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | argh | 16:09 |
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| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/183945400/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.firefox_32.0%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.04.2~ppa1~trusty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: any clue where the redefinition is happening? | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | bollocks | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | this makes no sense | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: missing include guards? | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: why does amd64 build then | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | building firefox is rocket science I tells ya | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | maybe the second include is in a platform specific ifdef | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | from /build/buildd/firefox-32.0+build1/obj-i686-linux-gnu/uriloader/exthandler/Unified_cpp_uriloader_exthandler0.cpp:54: <- first include of nsKDERegistry.h | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | from /build/buildd/firefox-32.0+build1/obj-i686-linux-gnu/uriloader/exthandler/Unified_cpp_uriloader_exthandler0.cpp:80: <- second include | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | second causes redef because include guards don't work, are not there or whatever | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | doesn't quite explain why nsCommonRegistry gets redeffed though, doesn't like that is coming from the patch anyway | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | that file is generated | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | the header is not | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | which is where the include guards would be missing or failing or whatever | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | ah well | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | lets add header guards | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also, this builds on precise btw | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | you should be able to include the same file 30000000 times without a redef issue | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | same patches | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | that means nutin | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | kk | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | could be ifdef gcc_version_balls && gcc_i386 | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | since it's autogen'd unless you make a local build we'll never know why it falls over dead only on trusty i386, but I am reasonable certain the ultimate cause is malfunctioning include guards | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | yofel: did you really make this recipe a year ago https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon5-plasmate | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | I totally don't remember plasmate being in the package pool :O | 18:04 |
| yofel | I have a vague memory that I did... yes | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | most peculiar | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, yofel ^ any objections to axeing plasmate from neon? | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | considering neon might get deprecated for the time being anyway | 18:07 |
| yofel | nope | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | don't want to spend time adding new stuff ^^ | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | *shrug* | 18:07 |
| * apachelogger throws a ball at shadeslayer | 18:07 | |
| apachelogger | dodgeball! | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | dogeball | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | :3 | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | jebus | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/dogeball | 18:08 |
| * apachelogger misplaced his bowtie | 18:08 | |
| shadeslayer | you have a what | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | now I imagine you sitting with your suit on with your bowtie and a pipe in your hand | 18:09 |
| * yofel can totally imagine that ^^ | 18:09 | |
| apachelogger | that's how I roll | 18:10 |
| BluesKaj | don't forget the suspenders :) | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | yeah, can't find any good looking ones either | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | my closet is a mess! | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | can't be worse than me | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | my entire room is a mess at the moment | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | talking about suspenders... | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg | 18:19 |
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| soee | what can be the reason that plasmahell sometimes do not start ? | 19:11 |
| ScottK | Probably apachelogger needs a new fez. | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | true that | 19:19 |
| yofel | I'm all for apachelogger brining Fezes for everyone at academy ^^ | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | well that's a bit short term isn't it | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | yofel: Riddell could probably find a shop for fezes in vienna | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | all this sort of stuff is to be found in vienna | 19:22 |
| yofel | heh | 19:22 |
| yofel | well, we could also just some to Munich | 19:22 |
| yofel | *just bring | 19:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: too late, I'm in Brno | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | ah, shame | 19:23 |
| yofel | Riddell: how's the weather? Tolerable, or does one need Polar equipment? | 19:23 |
| Riddell | bring | 19:23 |
| Riddell | yofel: I'm in t-shirts and sandals and while it's hardly barcelona it's good enough for me | 19:23 |
| yofel | ah, great | 19:24 |
| Riddell | but probably best to bring socks and a shirt | 19:24 |
| Riddell | also this hotel room only has ethernet, there's 1 cable supplied if you disconnect the phone | 19:24 |
| Riddell | dunno about the hostel | 19:24 |
| * yofel notes to bring some cables | 19:26 | |
| Riddell | and maybe a hub if you are sharing a room | 19:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ↑ | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | can't even find no fez shop | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | yofel: how about one of these instead http://www.hut-online.at/doktorhut-schwarz.html | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Did you see my earlier ping about approving Bug #1364710 with your release team hat on, I'd appreciate it. | 19:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1364710 in clamtk (Ubuntu) "FFe - Update clamtk to 5.09-1" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364710 | 19:30 |
| yofel | can't say I like those :/ | 19:30 |
| yofel | I would rather just wear a classic rain hat | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | impossibru to find fez | 19:31 |
| Riddell | ScottK: no sorry looking shortly | 19:31 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | maybe one should consult a hatter | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | oh fun story, apparently there used to be a fez production industry in brno actually | 19:32 |
| Riddell | ScottK: from CHANGES file "Release proper version for Ubuntu legacy" what is ubuntu legacy? | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It doesn't affect us. It's the upstream packages they do for precise/lucid. | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | for each release done we get legacy points, if we have enough legacy points we can win new exciting things | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | such as fezes | 19:38 |
| ScottK | Only if the Doctor is available to take you back in time to when Brno had a fez industry. | 19:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: mmm ok | 20:10 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: mm ok? | 20:13 |
| Riddell | oh cable, yes | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: re hub and cables | 20:13 |
| Riddell | I guess you can turn your laptop into a wifi hub | 20:13 |
| Riddell | so probably no physical one needed | 20:14 |
| Riddell | but grab a cable just incase | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | can't | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | my laptop has shit hardware | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | or software | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | depending on who you ask | 20:15 |
| yofel | hm, I might have an unused router lying around somewhere... | 20:16 |
| yofel | need to search for it | 20:16 |
| ScottK | yofel: If you're at Akademy, isn't any router you have that you don't bring with you unused? | 20:17 |
| yofel | well, there house won't be completely empty when I'm gone, so not quite | 20:18 |
| yofel | *the house | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Any of them technical enough to figure its missing? | 20:18 |
| yofel | yes | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Too bad. Otherwise you could just take it and "fix it" when you returned. | 20:19 |
| yofel | hehehe | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | I have a spare router I can bring | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | I think it can handle like 10 people | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | so 5 rooms :p | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | or well | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | since everyone will have 2 devices | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | 2 rooms | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | 2 devices? | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | why you are quite optimistic | 20:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: mesa FFe likely to be approved soon. We'll want to test against it prior to approval/upload so at least mgraesslin isn't surprised with his bugzilla exploads. | 20:40 |
| Riddell | oh meh not another late mesa upload | 20:42 |
| yofel | are we getting a new x too? | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | while we are at it, can we also land a new kernel plz? | 20:43 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yes. New X too. | 20:45 |
| yofel | whee | 20:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Talk to infinity about it in #u-release. | 20:45 |
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