[01:40] Riddell: apachelogger what are those bug fixes that the Google+ account was talking about? [04:03] Riddell: If you could look at approving Bug #1364710 with your release team hat on, I'd appreciate it. [04:04] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1364710 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364710). The error has been logged [07:36] Good morning. === wendar_ is now known as wendar === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [11:25] Hiyas all === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work [11:40] hiho BluesKaj [11:40] hey soee [11:47] someone said on main channel that cant upgrade kde-connect on trusty (backposrts enabled) due to lower priority of newer version ? === vinay is now known as Guest92110 [12:32] PPA exceeded its size limit (2165.00 of 2048.00 MiB) [12:33] uff [12:33] 353 binary packages (2.0 GiB) [12:33] well that seems excessive [12:34] and for some reason my system decided that my time should be UTC [12:35] UTC is the best [12:37] :) my laptop since few days from time to time sets my time in bios -2 hours :? [12:39] it shouldn't unless you use windows... [12:40] yeah that's when one OS thinks the bios time should be UTC and the other thinks it should be local [13:24] Lel [13:24] I got keys to my new flat [13:24] The walking distance to the uni is like 3 minutes [13:25] hurray [13:25] No more annoying bus commutes [13:25] More time to waste sleeping or something [13:25] Quintasan: also, 3 mins back to your home .... [13:25] :P [13:25] Splendid [13:26] Now I have no excuse not to come home after lectures and work on stuff [13:27] I can even connect to campus wireless network from the room lol [13:29] Great success. [13:30] hah [13:35] d_ed: pingly [13:36] much fun, ISO broke again because of ubiquity-dm [13:36] d_ed: does sddm take into account already running X servers? [13:36] erm possibly not [13:37] that might be the logind issue too. [13:37] nah can't be [13:37] because there we just directly boot to sddm [13:38] but with ubiquity-dm in the picuture, X starts on VT7 [13:38] and then when you hit "Try Kubuntu" it tries to start sddm [13:38] I think [13:38] hmm, it does have code that searches for unused VTs [13:39] it'll be in the logs as: qDebug() << "Adding new display" << displayId << "on vt" << terminalId << "..."; [13:39] I have no logs :S [13:39] le empty file [13:39] d_ed: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/pending/utopic-desktop-amd64.iso [13:39] in case you want to check it out [13:39] * shadeslayer looks at ubiquity-dm [13:50] guten dias [13:51] I can't speak german, it just comes out as Spanish! [13:54] Riddell: fwiw ubiquity-dm broke plasma 5 ISO again [13:54] idk how [13:54] why [13:54] it doesn't make any sense [13:54] fooey [13:55] it worked [13:55] yesterday [13:55] I know :( [13:55] twas darth vader [13:55] this is just the sort of thing I'm worried about in canonical's move away from community made software, we'll get stuck on something fiddly like this [13:55] Riddell, shadeslayer: when u arrive in brno [13:55] also how [13:55] also spaceships [13:55] spaceships [13:55] yes [13:55] on wheels [13:56] apachelogger: in a few hours, I'm enjoying austria's finest cuisine just now [13:56] I arrive on the 4th [13:56] also I don't think I have Riddell's catalunyan numba [13:56] lunchish time [13:56] apachelogger: jriddell.org/contact.html [13:56] Riddell: ah, lovely [13:56] Riddell: gracias [13:56] * shadeslayer wonders if USN offers XML feeds [13:56] xml... [13:57] s/xml/rss/ [13:57] shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [13:57] this Austrian Double Royal with criss cross fries is a paticular delight [13:57] bugger off kubotu [13:57] yes [13:57] yes it does [13:57] Riddell: lol, u go to austria and eat at mcdo? [13:57] I should totally write a neonBot plugin [13:57] hahaha [13:57] information leakage!!!!!!!!! [13:58] shadeslayer: what u got against kubotu? [13:58] except the fact that I think the trello plugin still has a bug [13:58] kubotu plugin then [13:58] idk [13:58] plugins [13:58] apachelogger: since it has a RSS feed, I can automate firefox shizzle a bit more [13:59] instead of having it on cron [13:59] kubotu: yo good man, what's wrong with u [13:59] hi, apachelogger [13:59] he's drunk [13:59] why screw u kubotu [13:59] heh [13:59] I am reasonable certain it didn't work the other day [13:59] apachelogger: where else could I find that great Austrian tradition the McSundae with karamell? [13:59] maybe the time stamp stuff has a corner case bug [14:00] cuz the only way for kubotu not to get data is if the server doesn't return anything and that probably only happens if the timestamps are off by a bit [14:00] shadeslayer: does it still fail if you stop and start sddm like I did in testing? [14:00] Riddell: .... [14:00] I am left without words [14:01] wellsies [14:01] I am arriving at the train station at 16:37 apparently [14:02] yeah I'm arriving before you [14:02] meet you at the hostel [14:02] also apparently I am on the same train as krake, and maybe there'll even be a bistro, why it is entirely possible that I might be drunk [14:02] shadeslayer: not staying at the hostel, I am staying at the other place 5 minutes away :P [14:02] but yeah [14:02] ok [14:02] dinner we shall, I'll give someone a ring [14:02] ok [14:02] * shadeslayer does not like the new maroon 5 album [14:03] * apachelogger does not like maroon 5 [14:03] it's like every song is the same, like so much the same, like only the lyrics are different [14:03] apachelogger: yep [14:04] their current album is quite alot like their last one [14:04] Riddell: stopping ubiquity and restarting sddm works [14:04] shadeslayer: bah, that explains why my testing worked [14:04] hm [14:04] makes me think ubiquity issue [14:04] makes me think sddm issue [14:05] sddm is an issue. [14:05] actually [14:05] could be [14:05] I have 2 X's [14:05] does it not insist on starting on tty1 yet? [14:05] d_ed: so, sddm forces X on tty1 [14:05] plz to fix [14:05] because I actually think that is pretty jolly bad from a platform POV if we have some systems on tty1 and others on tty7 [14:05] also makes support harder than it needs to be [14:06] it could very well be that ubiquity goes bonkers when it can't find X on tty7 [14:06] meby [14:06] * apachelogger is outraged by the austrian railways not being able to offer online ticketing from brno to austria [14:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8223786/ [14:16] yofel: y u idle in #opensuse-kde :O [14:16] Riddell: ^^ [14:16] * Riddell release dude for plasma and needs to coordinate with packagers [14:16] syping on other distros? :P [14:17] ^ so who are you spying for :p [14:17] us? although I pay more attention to fedora than opensuse [14:18] heh [14:22] the more interesting question is why shadeslayer is in opensuse-kde so he knows that yofel and Riddell are there......... [14:22] apachelogger: I was looking for someone [14:22] whose nick I don't remember [14:23] now that's very helpful, isn't it? :D [14:24] well, I know he idled in #opensuse-kde [14:29] * apachelogger nods very slowly [14:31] the opensuse chat was full of juveys when I tried the OS a few yrs back [14:32] was no place to get help at the time.. totally hopeless [14:33] not like the adult attitude I see in here everyday :) [14:40] what adult attitude [14:40] so how is the plasma 5 iso. Is it stable and working ok ? [14:41] well, I broke it yesterday [14:42] needs me and d_ed to sit together and debug it I think [14:42] ok shadeslayer , crashing freezing etc ? [14:43] the occassional crash, yeah [14:43] but I think all of them were fixed in 5.1 [14:44] didn't run too well on this intel gpu laptop or on the nvidiagpu desktop either [14:53] I really should get a SSD on this thing [14:53] even switching tabs in firefox is slow at times [14:55] ff is becoming somewhat bloated again..noticed slow loading on the desktop pc ...this laptop is fast with practically everything [14:56] still [14:58] I switched to CFQ a few hours ago [14:59] lets see what happens [15:04] shadeslayer, CFQ? [15:05] a io scheduler that supports IO niceness [15:22] d_ed: poke, mind looking at the end of http://paste.ubuntu.com/8224245 [15:22] Qt5 be crashering [15:22] much fun [15:23] could the greeter be using kactivitymanager? [15:34] we have put activities in your greeter, so you can have a prn activity without login [15:44] shadeslayer: do you plan to backport scheduler changes to 14.04? [15:44] I am unsure [15:45] snele: I want to see what happens with 14.10 first [15:45] shadeslayer: ok === keithzg_ is now known as keithzg [15:46] I am unsure if it would be wise to backport it for 14.04 though, need to check what would be the impact [15:47] shadeslayer: is there easy way to make a change to from deadline to CFQ? I can test it on 14.04 [15:47] echo cfq > /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler [15:47] for a one time change [15:47] ok thanks [15:48] for a permanent change, change your boot parameters to accept elevator=cfq [15:48] or add this file : /etc/udev/rules.d/60-ssd-scheduler.rules [15:48] with this line : ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", ATTR{queue/rotational}=="1",ATTR{queue/scheduler}="cfq" [15:50] heh just realised that first thing that I do when I install Kubuntu is to turn off nepomuk/baloo so probably I am not effected by this scheduler change [15:54] and not enable akonadi [15:55] what pita those 2 apps are [15:57] stop whining go fix it === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U [16:04] apachelogger, i did ...it's still a pain to have to deal with useless default apps that most home users don't need. [16:06] anyway stuff to do... bbl [16:09] argh === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === popey_ is now known as popey [16:28] apachelogger: ping [16:29] apachelogger: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/183945400/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.firefox_32.0%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.04.2~ppa1~trusty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [16:29] apachelogger: any clue where the redefinition is happening? [17:14] bollocks [17:14] this makes no sense [17:33] shadeslayer: missing include guards? [17:33] apachelogger: why does amd64 build then [17:34] building firefox is rocket science I tells ya [17:34] maybe the second include is in a platform specific ifdef [17:34] from /build/buildd/firefox-32.0+build1/obj-i686-linux-gnu/uriloader/exthandler/Unified_cpp_uriloader_exthandler0.cpp:54: <- first include of nsKDERegistry.h [17:34] from /build/buildd/firefox-32.0+build1/obj-i686-linux-gnu/uriloader/exthandler/Unified_cpp_uriloader_exthandler0.cpp:80: <- second include [17:34] second causes redef because include guards don't work, are not there or whatever [17:35] doesn't quite explain why nsCommonRegistry gets redeffed though, doesn't like that is coming from the patch anyway [17:35] that file is generated [17:35] the header is not [17:35] which is where the include guards would be missing or failing or whatever [17:35] hm [17:35] ah well [17:35] lets add header guards [17:36] apachelogger: also, this builds on precise btw [17:36] you should be able to include the same file 30000000 times without a redef issue [17:36] same patches [17:36] that means nutin [17:36] kk [17:36] could be ifdef gcc_version_balls && gcc_i386 [17:37] since it's autogen'd unless you make a local build we'll never know why it falls over dead only on trusty i386, but I am reasonable certain the ultimate cause is malfunctioning include guards [17:42] probably [18:04] yofel: did you really make this recipe a year ago https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon5-plasmate [18:04] I totally don't remember plasmate being in the package pool :O [18:06] I have a vague memory that I did... yes [18:06] most peculiar [18:06] shadeslayer, yofel ^ any objections to axeing plasmate from neon? [18:07] considering neon might get deprecated for the time being anyway [18:07] nope [18:07] don't want to spend time adding new stuff ^^ [18:07] *shrug* [18:07] * apachelogger throws a ball at shadeslayer [18:07] dodgeball! [18:07] dogeball [18:07] :3 [18:07] jebus [18:08] http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/dogeball [18:08] * apachelogger misplaced his bowtie [18:08] you have a what [18:09] now I imagine you sitting with your suit on with your bowtie and a pipe in your hand [18:09] * yofel can totally imagine that ^^ [18:10] that's how I roll [18:13] don't forget the suspenders :) [18:16] yeah, can't find any good looking ones either [18:16] my closet is a mess! [18:18] can't be worse than me [18:18] my entire room is a mess at the moment [18:19] talking about suspenders... [18:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg === turgay__ is now known as turgay [19:11] what can be the reason that plasmahell sometimes do not start ? [19:13] Probably apachelogger needs a new fez. [19:19] true that [19:20] I'm all for apachelogger brining Fezes for everyone at academy ^^ [19:22] well that's a bit short term isn't it [19:22] yofel: Riddell could probably find a shop for fezes in vienna [19:22] all this sort of stuff is to be found in vienna [19:22] heh [19:22] well, we could also just some to Munich [19:22] *just bring [19:22] apachelogger: too late, I'm in Brno [19:23] ah, shame [19:23] Riddell: how's the weather? Tolerable, or does one need Polar equipment? [19:23] bring [19:23] yofel: I'm in t-shirts and sandals and while it's hardly barcelona it's good enough for me [19:24] ah, great [19:24] but probably best to bring socks and a shirt [19:24] also this hotel room only has ethernet, there's 1 cable supplied if you disconnect the phone [19:24] dunno about the hostel [19:26] * yofel notes to bring some cables [19:27] and maybe a hub if you are sharing a room [19:27] shadeslayer: ↑ [19:28] can't even find no fez shop [19:29] yofel: how about one of these instead http://www.hut-online.at/doktorhut-schwarz.html [19:30] Riddell: Did you see my earlier ping about approving Bug #1364710 with your release team hat on, I'd appreciate it. [19:30] bug 1364710 in clamtk (Ubuntu) "FFe - Update clamtk to 5.09-1" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364710 [19:30] can't say I like those :/ [19:30] I would rather just wear a classic rain hat [19:31] impossibru to find fez [19:31] ScottK: no sorry looking shortly [19:31] Thanks. [19:31] maybe one should consult a hatter [19:32] oh fun story, apparently there used to be a fez production industry in brno actually [19:37] ScottK: from CHANGES file "Release proper version for Ubuntu legacy" what is ubuntu legacy? [19:37] Riddell: It doesn't affect us. It's the upstream packages they do for precise/lucid. [19:38] for each release done we get legacy points, if we have enough legacy points we can win new exciting things [19:38] such as fezes [19:47] Only if the Doctor is available to take you back in time to when Brno had a fez industry. [20:08] Riddell: Thanks. [20:10] Riddell: mmm ok [20:13] shadeslayer: mm ok? [20:13] oh cable, yes [20:13] Riddell: re hub and cables [20:13] I guess you can turn your laptop into a wifi hub [20:14] so probably no physical one needed [20:14] but grab a cable just incase [20:14] can't [20:14] my laptop has shit hardware [20:15] or software [20:15] depending on who you ask [20:16] hm, I might have an unused router lying around somewhere... [20:16] need to search for it [20:17] yofel: If you're at Akademy, isn't any router you have that you don't bring with you unused? [20:18] well, there house won't be completely empty when I'm gone, so not quite [20:18] *the house [20:18] Any of them technical enough to figure its missing? [20:18] yes [20:19] Too bad. Otherwise you could just take it and "fix it" when you returned. [20:19] hehehe [20:24] heh [20:24] I have a spare router I can bring [20:25] I think it can handle like 10 people [20:25] so 5 rooms :p [20:26] or well [20:26] since everyone will have 2 devices [20:27] 2 rooms [20:27] ;) [20:38] 2 devices? [20:39] why you are quite optimistic [20:40] Riddell: mesa FFe likely to be approved soon. We'll want to test against it prior to approval/upload so at least mgraesslin isn't surprised with his bugzilla exploads. [20:42] oh meh not another late mesa upload [20:43] are we getting a new x too? [20:43] while we are at it, can we also land a new kernel plz? [20:45] yofel: Yes. New X too. [20:45] whee [20:45] Riddell: Talk to infinity about it in #u-release.