[02:12] <Netham46> I've got an ARM box (First-gen CuBox), and the only ubuntu distro I can find is an ubuntu 12.10 image
[02:13] <Netham46> It looks like the package repos for it are down
[02:13] <Netham46> Is there an alternate mirror for older ARM releases?
[02:13] <Netham46> I'm looking to do a dist upgrade to bring it up to date, but I can't get it fully installed in the first place w/o the repos.
[02:26] <Netham45> Nevermind, found it at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ .
[05:14] <nikko_01> hello. I have not used my pandaboard in a year and was wondering if anyone had an idea how it would perform with 14.04
[06:56] <infinity> nikko_01: Headless or desktop?
[06:56] <infinity> nikko_01: As a headless machine, they still perform really well, and are quite handy.
[06:57] <infinity> nikko_01: For desktop/gui type use, the situation's a bit crap, cause TI dropped support on the floor for OMAP4 quite a long while back, which means no more sketchy binary drivers which means no more 3D drivers at all, since there isn't an open source powervr driver.
[06:58] <nikko_01> infinity: so the situation has not changed. I did want to use it to build my UI as well as real-time embedded processor.
[06:58] <infinity> nikko_01: So, you can run a desktop that doesn't demand fancy 3D performance (xubuntu, lubuntu, etc), the 2D framebuffer performance isn't awful, but no 3D and, more importantly for some usecases (set top box?), no non-free video decode acceleration.
[06:59] <infinity> nikko_01: The situation isn't likely to improve ever, really.  PowerVR doesn't play well with others.
[07:01] <nikko_01> infinity: Got it. It's a shame .  I have 2 of those boards. I assume the same is true with beagleboard Xm?
[07:01] <infinity> Not sure that video's on the XM, or the state thereof.
[07:02] <nikko_01> I tink it is the same chip or earlier generation if I am not mistaken
[07:02] <infinity> But pretty much anything who's upstream status is "nothing but a non-free driver", we're not shipping any of those, and for most of them, it's because it's usually an unsupported non-free driver that only works with a kernel from 4 years ago.
[07:03] <nikko_01> Infinity: Thanks for the info. Any arm board in those price ranges you know of?
[07:04] <infinity> Haven't kept track of the latest and greatest.
[07:04] <infinity> But free Mali drivers are starting to not suck, AFAIK, so in the future, I'd look for SoCs with Mali GPUs.
[07:04] <nikko_01> ok. thanks for the info again.
[07:05] <infinity> Though, today, unless you're really into hacking together stuff and playing a LOT, pretty much everything sucks.
[07:05] <infinity> Except if you take a device that you know works with, say, Android or ChromeOS, and violently shoehorn their drivers and kernel into Ubuntu.
[07:05] <infinity> Which is actually a lot less fun than it sounds.
[07:05] <infinity> I don't recommend it.
[07:06] <nikko_01> does not sound like fun