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pdcmoreiracan i do sudo apt-get purge php* safely?00:01
Bashing-ompdcmoreira: What release have you installed, as trusty shows "Version: 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4" as the proper version .00:01
pdcmoreiravesion of linux?00:02
pdcmoreiralatest 14.0400:02
Bashing-ompdcmoreira: Yes, what release of ubuntu is installed ?00:02
pdcmoreiralatest 14.0400:02
XepoofBNCuname -a on bash00:02
underplayWhats a good GUI for KDE that can decrypt/encrypt and manage GPG keys? Something besides gpg4usb and not kelopatra either00:03
pdcmoreirait says 3.13.0-32-generic00:03
bmuk`EriC^^: I apologize for being so much trouble. I have googled this to no end and I can't seem to fix it. I would rather not have to reinstall completely00:04
EriC^^bmuk`: did this happen after a graphics driver update?00:04
bmuk`I don't believe so. I have intel integrated graphics00:04
pdcmoreirawait is this 32 bit? i think i've downloaded 64 bit as it is for a php server for a huge app00:04
EriC^^bmuk`: you could try to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:05
elimskradbest channel to get ddos and router support. Etherape etc. Hackers been having there way on my home networ. Thanks :-D00:05
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OerHekselimskrad, wrong channel to ask00:06
Bashing-ompdcmoreira: To se the installed version(s) -> dpkg -l nginx php5-fpm <- .00:06
pdcmoreiraaaah 5.5.900:06
pdcmoreira:D00:06
pdcmoreirai guess it's all ok then00:06
pdcmoreiraso that "Ondřej Surý" repo is not needed anymore?00:07
underplayWhats a good GUI for KDE that can decrypt/encrypt and manage GPG keys? Something besides gpg4usb and not kelopatra either00:07
OerHekselimskrad, try #security or ##networking00:07
underplay#security00:08
elimskradthank you OerHeks00:08
Bashing-ompdcmoreira: well, on a fresh install, and all the applications installed, then no, there is no need of a PPA that will cause dependency conflicts.00:09
pdcmoreirahmm00:09
OerHeksunderplay, i think kwallet does that? you might want to ask in #kubuntu too.00:09
pdcmoreirabut i tried sudo apt-get install php5 php5-curl php5-cli php5-cgi php5-pear php5-imagick php5-gd php5-fpm php5-pdo php5-mcrypt and it said ir couldnt find php5-pear and php5-pdo00:09
underplayok thanks Oerheks ill check out kwallet00:10
EriC^^pdcmoreira: why are you not using the official lamp guide?00:10
pdcmoreirai'm trying to install lemp00:10
Bashing-ompdcmoreira: -> apt-cache show php5-pear <- ??00:11
EriC^^pdcmoreira: i think you're supposed to install libapache2-mod-php5 , only00:11
EriC^^you'd get php5-cli and others with it00:11
OerHekspdcmoreira, what guide are you using anyway?00:11
pdcmoreiracan't find php5-pear package00:11
EriC^^!lamp | pdcmoreira00:11
ubottupdcmoreira: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.00:11
pdcmoreirahttp://www.smartpixels.net/how-to-lamp-lemp-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server-271/#smartTabs2 <- this one00:11
pdcmoreiraEriC^^, that guide says it installs php500:12
pdcmoreiraso it seems to be hugely outdated00:13
EriC^^pdcmoreira: which is 5.5.900:13
EriC^^no, you'd get the latest version00:13
OerHekspdcmoreira, even thaqt PPA mentioned, had no php5-pear candidate :-D00:13
pdcmoreiraare you sure? because other sites say that ubuntu doesn't install 5.500:13
OerHeksfunny guide00:13
tburkeyes yes y'all00:13
EriC^^pdcmoreira: quite sure, yes00:13
pdcmoreirawell it says in my system that 5.5.9 is installed so00:14
pdcmoreirai guess is all right00:14
EriC^^there are actually stuff you don't have00:15
EriC^^which i'd think were important00:15
EriC^^php5-common php5-readline00:15
pdcmoreirathe app is made in laravel framework00:15
pdcmoreiraso i guess i need that php5-pdo?00:16
EriC^^i'd follow the official guide00:16
pdcmoreirabecause eloquent (laravel's ORM) uses pdo i think00:16
somsippdcmoreira: yes it does00:17
EriC^^and add whatever you need00:17
dsnydersHi all!  What's the best way to move /var to a new partition?00:18
bmuk`EriC^^: dist-upgrade still didn't help. I'm convinced this is a compiz problem, I just don't know why it isn't loading the composite plugin00:18
EriC^^bmuk`: guest account doesn't work, right?00:18
bmuk`I believe it did work when I tried it the other day, let me try quickly00:19
bmuk`guest account boots to unity just fine00:20
pdcmoreiraerr... great00:20
pdcmoreirai just did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin00:20
pdcmoreiranow it asks me which server should be configured automatically00:21
pdcmoreiraeither apache2 or lightppd00:21
pdcmoreirai have nginx :s00:21
newroaddoes anyone know of a solid powerful ubuntu gaming laptop that isn’t system76? their stuff is so buggy and their support is horrible and rude00:21
rypervenchepdcmoreira: You'll have to set up a virtualhost yourself for nginx. It's very easy to do.00:21
minimecbmuk`: How did you reset unity before? Like this? --> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/00:22
Lobster`Just get a powerful windows laptop and install ubuntu on it00:22
WeiJunLiTried to run a .exe file and received this output http://bpaste.net/show/bdf9694a39a5 - how to fix this?00:22
Lobster`linux doesnt run .exe00:22
newroadlobster, but so many have driver/compatibility issues.00:22
WeiJunLiLobster`: it does00:22
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bmuk`minimec: I am in tty1 now, I can't see that link, could you summarize? just dconf reset -f /org/compiz?00:22
Lobster`wine isnt linux, its a software layer windows emulator00:23
WeiJunLiLobster`: alright, so how to fix that error with wine?00:23
OerHeksWeiJunLi, for wine application help, join #winehq00:23
somsipLobster`: Wine Is Not an Emulator :)00:23
netlarI am setting up a system for a family member. Is there a way to add to system wide help?00:26
minimecbmuk`: exactly. ok. YOur configuration seems 'borked'. If you want to solve it manually, I would make a copy of the config folders, and try again...00:26
minimecI would do ... 'mv .compiz .compiz-old && mv compiz-1 compiz-1-old && mv .gconf gconf-old && mv .config .config-old'00:26
bmuk`can't I just remove those folders? I don't have anything important in there00:26
minimecbmuk`: Afterwards you will have to copy the working configurations for your apps back from .config-old to .config, if needed.00:27
netlarMaybe like add a section of my own, tailored just to them?00:27
minimecbmuk`: Your choice. All your app config will be gone.00:28
EriC^^bmuk`: question, do you have unity-tweak-tool ?00:28
bmuk`no I don't00:29
bmuk`I removed all of those folders, the only one i hadn't removed before was gconf00:29
farobankEach and every one of you are a disgrace to the concept of free speech.  You are so fucking uneducated and stupid that you do not understand why it's important that unpopular speech be heard despite its unpopularity.  You cannot simulate inside your little retarded brain why and how restriction of speech is detrimental to a working society.  I hope all of00:29
farobankyou get cancer, especially bazhang and metaleer, who are both even worse (even worse in that they are trolls who work out their sexual frustration through their tiny limited power on IRC)!  This is Cholby.  Fuck you.  Suck my dick you.  You are all a fucking disgrace.  The fappening is discussed on heavily-censored CNN, however not on freenode.  What does00:29
farobankthat say about you?  Not much.  lol fag00:29
bmuk`It's fixed now00:30
minimecbmuk`: Heureka ;)00:30
bmuk`thank you all! I have no idea how this happened00:30
Mussolinihi00:34
mJaykHay Mussolini00:35
html_has_headachhow do i mkdir  many dir then a doc.sh  and have the chmod set in one command?00:37
somsiphtml_has_headach: give an example of what you want to do.00:37
EriC^^mkdir many dir as in a path?00:39
EriC^^like create /path/to/folder , if path & to dont exist as folders?00:40
nrdbJust upgraded to 14.04 :-)    Things appear good so far    I like being able to put the menus in the window title bar00:42
WeiJunLiufffff, anyone can help me with a wine issue? winehq channel is dead00:44
nrdbhtml_has_headach, chmod can be recursive00:45
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nrdbhtml_has_headach, as for making many dirs I would use a script .... python maybe00:46
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html_has_headachsomsip,  nrdb  http://pastebin.com/q3RXrhA800:58
noud_is_nolBanned01:00
noud_is_nolYou are banned from ##unix.01:00
noud_is_noldamit..invoices time..and guess!! ..them #netbsd acting up again --(01:00
noud_is_nol(real serious_)01:00
OerHeksplease watch your language, noud_is_nol01:01
noud_is_nolgiven time..now reading this back-log, if any..did see url..will be the same upon left01:01
rww!ot01:01
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:01
noud_is_noli do i do01:01
rww(as you know already)01:01
noud_is_nol(02:59:12) Topic for #netbsd set by Cryo at 04:31:43 on 22-04-1401:01
noud_is_nol(02:59:33) iemand: fuck shit i need to get my invoices out..driving nbsd01:01
noud_is_nol(02:59:35) iemand: hi them01:01
noud_is_nol(03:00:13) iemand: Banned01:01
noud_is_nol(03:00:13) iemand: You are banned from ##unix.01:01
unopastenoud_is_nol you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted01:01
rwwsigh.01:01
rwwnoud_is_nol: #ubuntu is *only* for Ubuntu technical support. Other topics are *not allowed here*. Repeated offtopic chatter will result in your removal from this room.01:02
somsiphtml_has_headach: so, that is your script. Put all of those commands in a file, put "#!/bin/bash" as line 1, and chmod +x on the file.01:04
mguyI'm getting a bunch of 'hash Sum mismatch' errors when I try to apt-get update 12.04 server01:07
mguy14.04 seems to work fine, any ideas?01:08
tac_Is it just me, or does the version of grep that comes with Ubuntu not glob properly?01:08
OerHeksmguy, an idea is to look what package/repository is doing that01:09
tac_hm, as soon as I say that01:09
tac_it works as usual :)01:09
scagheadOerHeks: bravo01:09
mguyFailed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages01:09
OerHeksprecise = 12.04 ..01:10
scagheadmguy: so01:10
OerHeksedit your sources.list :-)01:10
tac_err no, I guess it's still not working01:11
mguyOerHeks: Why? This is a fresh out of the box install01:14
EriC^^mguy: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* && sudo apt-get update01:14
mguyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/446109/apt-get-update-gives-bzip2-error-on-fresh-ubuntu-12-04lts-in-virtual-box-versi  that's the same one I get01:15
OerHeksmguy i understood you updated 12.04 to 14.0401:15
mguyEriC^^: Same error01:15
mguyOerHeks: No, I have 14.04 install that works fine01:15
mguyBut I need older versions of php to duplicate another server so I used 12.0401:16
noud_is_nol(03:16:44) nog_iemand: (IM) Information Management01:17
OerHeksi would remove the lists, not the partial >> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update01:17
SpiderkeysHi. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, have an Nvidia GTX580, and am having problems with colour banding, as if it was set to 16bit colour depth. The settings present in the nvidia-settings app show that I am indeed set to 24 bit depth, despite that. I've tried a few different drivers (both Nouveau and proprietary), but that doesn't seem to help the situation. ANy ideas for what might be causing this problem or how I can further pursue th01:18
noud_is_nol(03:18:19) iemand: (03:15:48) roasted: rww: sleepin on the job bro? :P01:19
noud_is_nol(03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:04) nog_iemand: ##unix given 88, given #netbsd blocks01:19
noud_is_nol(03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:12) blitz: phunyguy plz01:19
noud_is_nol(03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:21) nog_iemand: whos the fuck sleeping01:19
noud_is_nol(03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:22) phunyguy: hello01:19
noud_is_nol see above ^^^01:19
noud_is_nol^01:19
noud_is_nolwe work together01:19
somsip!ops | noud_is_nol (cross posting repeatedly)01:20
ubottunoud_is_nol (cross posting repeatedly): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang01:20
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OerHeksnoud_is_nol, we don't care, so stop it, thanks.01:20
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dodahis there another webcam program besides cheese. (thats good) ?01:22
noud_is_nolyes pardon had and have a help-feeling down local here as well01:22
noud_is_nolsure is01:22
noud_is_nolfirst Vid4Linux things01:22
noud_is_noleuu..uu..what's the exact?01:22
noud_is_nol# what's the exact?01:22
digitalsavetest01:24
somsip!test | digitalsave01:24
ubottudigitalsave: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )01:24
digitalsaveanyone having issues with openssh-server not allowing connections from the outside?01:24
somsipdigitalsave: only when it's not configured correctly01:25
SchrodingersScatdigitalsave: you?01:25
digitalsavethis is a fresh install and i can connect locally but it refuses my password externallt01:25
EriC^^digitalsave: are you logging in as ssh user@host ?01:26
porfacan anyone helkp me out with some ownership issues/questions ?01:26
digitalsaveport forwarding it correct as i can reach and accept the key01:26
digitalsaveyes EriC^^01:26
dodahwell, i'm not sure what you all our talking about.. i'm wanting to know if there is a better program than Cheese..01:26
dodahi'm from kansas01:26
dodah:)01:26
porfahere it goes, i am editing some .php files that are in my webroot, but the thing is, my actual user doesn't have rights to write the files, just to read them, how do i give (and should i give) permissions to my user to write on those files, or should i just create a new user with write acess to my webroot like www-data does?01:26
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dodahback in the old days that was flooding the channel01:27
mguyEriC^^: nuking the lists/ directory did the trick01:27
porfasorry dodah01:27
somsipporfa: on a dev machine, add your user to www-group, logout and back in again, chgrp -R www-data /var/www, chmod -R g+s /var/www01:28
dodahno problem01:28
somsipporfa: then anything created in /var/www will be www-data group, which you will be a part of. Only safe for a dev machine though01:28
porfait's a server and it's online ..! would it be safe to create a new diferent user just to edit docs on the /var/www/html folder? would it be safer? i know nothing about security, im just editing some phps01:29
digitalsavesshd was up and running until recently just fine and then started denying my password with access denied with nothing in auth.log as to why it was denied. i messed around with it and finally just blanked the system incase i messed up some of the auth files or something. a fresh install does the same thing. i disaled the ecdsa keys thinking maybe that was causing issues but get the same thing01:30
Falldigitalsave: did you check /etc/hosts.deny01:31
digitalsavei did and it is blank - fresh system01:32
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somsipporfa: if you are editing php files on a live server, you don't have a safe deployment process.01:33
porfai wish i could properly write what is happening here, i will trya nd hope my feelings get across01:34
* EriC^^ pulls a couch for porfa to lay on01:34
porfawell, it's live on the owncloud part and mysql, that's online.. i am editing some prestashop php/smarty files on a service that isn't really online yet, it's still under development, but i only have this server, so i have to edit the files this way01:35
porfasorry EriC^^ :(01:35
EriC^^lol, :)01:35
afrokarlssonwhat happens when in monday born person go s over 2 see in same day once, tuesday twice..., sunday seven times01:35
dodahi don't feelings really matter around here...01:36
somsipporfa: have a read of this which mostly mirrors what I've said, but makes an important point that /var/www whoudl be root:root and only some of the contents should be :www-data. There are links to other questions that may help you too. http://is.gd/J2lS8401:36
porfai think i expressing myself wrong, wngflish not my fgirst language, i meant to say something more like of thoughts maybe01:36
dodahdon't worry about it01:36
dodahlife goes on01:36
porfasomsip thank you very nice for that link01:37
dodahhave not done nothing wrong in my book..01:37
somsipporfa: on a live server, permissions should be very tight. On a dev server, they can be more relaxed. Best to get it right now if you are working on a server that will go live one day.01:38
dodahcourse mine is a little book.. :)01:38
somsip*dev = local01:38
dodahbigger01:38
dodahGods above me.. trust me..01:38
EriC^^dodah: lol, i thought it was a funny.. like he was about share his childhood or something01:39
EriC^^that's all01:39
dodahright01:39
dodahgot it01:39
phunyguyCan we stay on topic with support please?01:39
dodahahhhhhh can some help me set my clock?01:40
somsip!time | dodah01:40
ubottudodah: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)01:40
dodahi hate bots01:40
dodahget real01:40
dodahthese are people01:41
maherrera89Hello01:46
maherrera89expunge, you there?01:47
_unreal_god I love linux, total crash and yet I still recovered01:47
maherrera89Hello all, I have an issue with my pc, the sound does not work when I play videos (youtube or Facebook), I do not think is the sound driver because it does play the music in Rhythmbox, any one with a hint?01:48
html_has_headachwait what?  i am banned?  i was just afking here .01:54
OerHekshtml_has_headach, no you're not01:55
html_has_headachsomsip,  this is a post install script - i  need the dir and the chlid read and writeable .01:56
html_has_headach!grep | html_has_headach01:57
ubottuhtml_has_headach, please see my private message01:57
somsiphtml_has_headach: which directory? Readable and writeable by whom?02:02
html_has_headachwhat is chmod +x ? what does this mean?02:07
linuxlid2333333333302:07
somsiphtml_has_headach: it makes a file executable.02:08
linuxlidyou can "man chmon"02:08
somsiphtml_has_headach: and the line starting 'echo "-Xmx1024M...' should be 'echo "java -Xmx1024M...' from what you seem to be trying to do02:09
saiarcot895html_has_headach: chmod +x specifically adds executable permissions to the file for everyone02:14
hanasakiwhat is a good opensource way to setup vm's or lxc's that are in a pool that users can log into?02:18
somsiphanasaki: that's not really anything to do with ubuntu. Docker springs to mind, but further discussion would be OT02:19
hanasakiwell looking to use ubuntu as the base host for the system02:19
somsiphanasaki: ubuntu will likely support whatever solution you decide on. So you need to find a solution. It depends very much by what you mean by 'pool' and what use case you;re looking at. I'd suggest researching serveroverflow or something similar02:21
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hanasakithanks.02:21
hanasakisomsip:  have a lead on getting kdm  to come up iwht a login screen for both windows and linux boxes?  idea is to be able to login to the X session and if already logged in... to reconnect to the already loged in one02:22
somsiphanasaki: I don't see a question there, I don't use kdm, and don't run dual boot. So I can't help. But if you address the question to the channel, maybe someone else can02:24
geekmasterflashhanasaki, the only thing I am aware of towards what you are talking about is GFX Grub02:25
hanasakiI have xinitd.d/...   setup with server_args     = -inetd -query localhost -once -geometry 1600x1200 -depth 8 -nevershared -ac02:25
hanasaki   however right after login with vnc client the server closes the windows02:25
geekmasterflashPresuming you are saying you want the screen where you select your OS to be pretty02:25
hanasakigeekmasterflash:  idea is to use vnc to get to a kdm login screen over the network02:26
config_How do you configure rsyslog to create a particular log to be no more than a certain size (in GB), and once it reaches that limit, to compress that file and start a new log file?02:27
davidrsmorrisHi, I am getting a glib error in the in the man-db stage of installing python-minimal 2.7.5-5ubuntu3.  I am updating from 12.04 to 14.04.  How do I get a working system out of this?02:28
OerHeksconfig_, logrotation maybe? http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/log_rotation_fix_size.html02:29
underplaywhats the error02:29
linuxuz3rits much better to reinstall02:29
OerHeksplease linuxuz3r not again this trolling02:30
geekmasterflashOerHeks, I am not sure that constitutes trolling. Restalling usually is cleaner02:30
underplayif you see meo nthe internet, i got hte product, if you see me in your inbox, i got he product02:31
underplaybadass song02:31
config_OerHeks: what if you wanted not just one backup log, but multiple ones for rotation?02:36
OerHeksconfig_, that howto shows you how to limit, in the actual logrotate script you can add compression if you want02:38
cyberjunkieyo02:39
energizerHello, error from apt-get update. "GPG error: http://plex.r.worldssl.net lucid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43525C28E533491A02:39
energizer".02:39
OerHeksLucid... that is old02:40
energizerI don't really understand all this key/signature stuff anyway. Is there a good resource for learning about that?02:40
OerHeksenergizer, lucid is EOL02:40
OerHeks!eol02:40
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades02:40
yc__hi02:41
energizerOerHeks: i see.02:41
kostkonenergizer, is it the desktop version?02:41
baegleI just upgraded to 14.04 (thinkpad x230). Resuming from suspend, I get the login window, but after logging in, the screen is completely black. I think the backlight is completely off. But my ttys work (after a second, presumably for the backlight to turn on). How can I toggle the backlight on my X session from a separate tty session?02:41
OerHeksenergizer, you could try the oldversions trick, but maybe plex has removed stuff02:41
energizerkostkon: ya02:41
OerHeksi am wrong, uh, server *is* still supported .. so it is a plex issue02:42
energizerOerHeks: on https://plex.tv/downloads, the downloadable version is for "lucid or newer"02:43
ahklernerbaegle: i had same issue on a toshiba i had to change power setting to suspend for both on ac and on battery02:43
ahklernerit is a known bug with light-locker02:43
energizerOerHeks: my os is 14.0402:43
config_OerHeks: Thanks, what if say, I wanted to fill up a 10GB log directory (ex. /var/log/mydirectory) with logs that have a maximum size of 1GB. That would mean I'd be able to constantly rotate 10 logs. Is it possible to do this?02:43
kostkonenergizer, try re-adding the key for that repo02:43
baegleahklerner: OK, I'll reboot and try that02:43
ahklernerbaegle: it also has the side effect of not requiring a password02:44
ahklernerwhich is not good02:44
OerHeksenergizer, then that line should be : GPG error: http://plex.r.worldssl.net trusty02:44
energizerOerHeks: i'd have thought so too..02:47
codepython777I've a /usr/local/bin/uwsgi -> dpkg -list shows uwsgi, but apt-get remove wont remove it. Any ideas how i can find out who installed this executable?02:47
baegleahklerner: I'm not sure I understand which setting you have to change. There's a setting for when laptop lid is closed, but that's not what you mean, right?02:48
kerriDotican anyone tell me the name of, or more to the point, what the shortcut is to hide/show the window. (((the fourth up arrow button next to the minimize, maximize, and close buttons?)))02:49
ahklerneryes that is the setting that helped my issue02:49
ahklernerbut again it was a toshiba so it may be a slightly different issue02:49
baegleHmm, but I have closing laptop lid = lock screen, not suspend02:49
ahklernerthat is what mine was originally on too02:50
BeldarkerriDoti, Little more context would help, kinda hard to understand.02:51
peterrooneycodepython777: dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/uwsgi02:51
OerHeksenergizer, if it is just the keyring, actionparsnip wrote a solution #7  >  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/20166602:51
codepython777peterrooney: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/uwsgi02:52
cynicallemonBeldar: i think kerriDoti mean the roll up windows feature02:52
kerriDotiBeldar: see the top of your window. there is the close window, maximize, minmize, and another arrow button that rolls up or down the window. that is the one im interested in. :)02:52
config_OerHeks: Any idea how to rotate multiple logs?02:53
BeldarkerriDoti, Not on my desktop, you might give exacting info.02:53
energizerOerHeks: thanks, ill check it out.02:53
peterrooneycodepython777: I just noticed - if it's in /usr/local it means it's installed from a local source, NOT from a repository.  Sorry.02:53
OerHeksconfig_, maybe a cashscripter can write such thing, i would tar it with date in the name, to avoid double files02:53
peterrooneycodepython777: dpkg doesn't normally know about such things.02:53
cynicallemonkerriDoti: try placing the mouse pointer on the window title bar and scroll with your mouse02:53
codepython777peterrooney: can i safely remove it?02:53
OerHekserr i would clean logs regularly too02:54
delinquentmeis it typical that a set of matched RAM ... has 1 good stick and 1 bad ??02:54
kerriDotiBeldar: Yeah darn, perhaps it is only with xfce or xubuntu? And yes the scroll does it. Im interested in a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing.02:54
OerHeksconfig_, maybe this page is any help http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples/02:55
peterrooneycodepython777: depends.  Did you want the uwsgi service running on your machine?  From the looks of it, you installed it from source.02:55
kerriDotiBeldar: lol, its lots of fun to search for something like this when you dont know the name of it! :-)02:55
delinquentmeI just purchased a matched set of PNY ram from best buy ... checked all the stats DDR3  PC3-1280002:55
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capruroHi02:56
Beldardelinquentme, If one is bad return it, hardly a support question.02:56
kerriDoticynicallemon: Thank you that works. Looking for a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing.02:57
kerriDotiWish i knew the name of it02:58
pussygladiatorhow do I have my terminal echo something everytime i open it up02:58
pussygladiatorits gnome-terminal02:59
guest66676667Okay I have ubuntu 14.04.01 lts which i modified to lubuntu-desktop instead and added openbox which i have to configure so they dont eat eachother still.  I use wicd and after the recent upgrade network-manager is back and if i remove it it threatens to uninstall lubuntu-desktop.  how do i blacklist network-manager which does not work well for me and keep lubuntu-desktop?02:59
delinquentmeBeldar, I guess im just surprised that they dont verify these things?02:59
kerriDotiSomeone in xubuntu told me the name. It is shade. Now to find the keyboard shortcut!!! :-)03:00
config_OerHeks: Thanks, OerHeks. Btw, how do you know so much about these things?03:00
davidrsmorris22: You forgot to call g_type_init() at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207 \n GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207.03:00
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OerHeksconfig_, hangin in here, reading and learning for months, maybe years now :-)03:01
cynicallemonkerriDoti: yeah shade or rollup/down03:01
Beldardelinquentme, Sure but this is support #ubuntu-offtopic is chat on such matters. ;)03:02
guest66676667hi03:03
energizerguest66676667: hi!03:04
config_OerHeks: I see03:04
kerriDotiGot it! Thank you for your help!!!03:05
cynicallemonkerriDoti: and the answer is?03:05
delinquentmeBeldar, thanks I took it to #electronics :D03:06
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MelarHow do i get rid of network-manager which causes me problems and keep lubuntu-desktop?03:08
BeldarMelar, Do you want net access?03:16
cynicallemonMelar: lubuntu-desktop should only be a meta package i think03:16
cynicallemonBeldar thats what /etc/network/interfaces is for03:17
sydneyMelar: We need more details. Wats wrong? Can you explain better?03:17
kerriDoticynicallemon: The answer is... its called shade. In the settings -> window manager-> keyboard shortcuts... I mad a hotkey to use. :-)03:18
cynicallemonkerriDoti: cool, i thought you would need a keybind of some sort03:18
BeldarMelar, The question just needs some back to it is all, like have you replaced it say with wicd and or sdome end goal.03:18
Beldarsome*03:18
kerriDotiSo instead of clicking the button. or using the mouse scroll wheel, i can use my keyboard shortcut! Yay!!! Effieciency!03:18
kerriDoticynacallemon: I did, just did not know the name of it. ;-)03:19
netlarAll of a sudden Pithos is not showing notifications anymore.  How can I fix that?03:21
config_OerHeks: So for this logrotate example you shared, basically you would feed in the rsyslog output (whatever it may be called, say my-log-file-of-interest.log) into /etc/logrotate.conf?03:21
netlarI was getting the notification pop up, now it just stopped, I already rebooted too03:22
Beldarnetlar, This the unity desktop and are any other notifications missing?03:23
netlarBeldar: this is Unity, and the other notifications do appear03:24
Beldarnetlar, Might be the pithos config is there a pithos in ~/.config03:25
netlarI just reinstalled Pithos too, that did not fix it03:25
MelarBeldar: i apologize for that i am unfamiliar with the paste bin service and was unsure about how to proceed.03:25
netlarBeldar: I do not see a Pithos folder in the ~/.config folder03:26
BeldarMelar, You can answer questions here, we just want more info is all.03:26
netlarBeldar: I do see a ini file03:27
twoofthreehello. Is ubuntu capable of reading exfat usb flash drive out of the box?03:27
netlarBeldar: In that file notify=True is there03:27
Melarlet me figure out the paste bin for ubuntu03:27
somsip!paste | Melar03:28
ubottuMelar: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:28
netlarBeldar: Is it something wrong with Pithos and sending info over internet?03:29
netlarBeldar: What more info would you like?03:29
Melarpretty good expunge, network-manager is causing me problems now when i try to uninstall it trying to get up to speed so i can paste the apt-get output to the patse bin03:30
Beldarnetlar, I'm just guessing on a config issue, if you reinstalled you would had to have run a purge to get the config out, or just figure where it's at.03:31
Melar!paste | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8220334/03:31
BeldarMelar, The network manager is your gui to the net you know this right?03:32
Melari use wicd03:33
netlarBeldar: Well I just ran the purge and then reinstalled, same issue03:33
BeldarMelar, That was the point of my first question.03:33
Melaryes03:33
BeldarMelar, I would just disable it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager03:34
Melarthank you!03:34
netlarSorry to bother you guys with such a minor thing03:34
Beldarnetlar, No problem it is a ubuntu package having it work correctly is no bother.03:35
TyrandisHey guys whats up, first time using this program and using ubuntu :D03:35
netlarBeldar: I was not doing anything to the system, just on a web browser then started Pithos and noticed the pop ups were not happening anymore03:36
Beldarnetlar, see if 'python-appindicator' is installed03:37
netlaryep, checked that too03:37
netlarEven reinstalled it03:37
Melarthank you again, i appriciate this a lot.03:39
Beldarnetlar, Hmm, this 14.04? I see a bug the python-appindicator was it's answer with a quick cursory that is all I see as a fix.03:39
netlarBeldar: One other thing too, when I start Pithos the pause button on the player is not showing, the one off to the left03:40
Beldarnetlar, unity and compiz have a reset option I would try that, be sure you find the one for your ubuntu release is all.03:40
netlarBeldar: So rebooting does not reset compiz?03:41
Beldarnetlar, I would check it in the guest account as well.03:41
netlaroh yes, let me check that03:41
Beldarnetlar, No compiz stays as is per boot03:41
netlarBeldar: The guest account is not showing the notification03:43
Beldarnetlar, Hmm, this from the ubuntu repo or the ppa?03:43
netlarBeldar: I do have NotifiyOSD installed, maybe that is giving me problems03:43
Beldarnetlar, I ask as if it were me I would try either.03:43
netlarBeldar: Ubuntu Repo03:43
Beldarnetlar, I would check the ppa, might just be the same release is all.03:44
netlarBeldar: Just curious how all of a sudden, it does not work, when it worked just 5 min before03:44
Beldarnetlar, No idea, to many outliers to even guess. the ppa has 3.18.4 the repos is 3.17 generally Idon't advise a ppa but seems harmless try here, you just want to know the ppa-purge process is all.03:46
Beldarnetlar, the deprecated ppa refres to this ppa if your so inclined. https://launchpad.net/~pithos/+archive/ubuntu/ppa03:48
Beldarrefers*03:48
netlarBeldar: So do not install .3.18?03:48
BasketballBeldar,  are you good with bash scripts03:50
Beldarnetlar, If it were me I would try it, but I know how to use ppa's and remove them with ppa-purge. Here is the ppa development page might be worth asking them. https://launchpad.net/~pithos03:51
netlarBeldar: I have removed pps befoe03:51
netlarppa03:51
netlarBeldar: I probably have too many ppa's already03:52
Beldarnetlar, With the gui being strange and no popup something is amiss, could be any number of issues really not an easy search for me I only have limited skills.03:53
netlarBeldar: I do appriciate the help03:54
HikaruBGhi guys03:54
HikaruBGI have a windows computer in my home network (in HOMEGROUP) with shared folders which I can't see from Ubuntu03:54
HikaruBGhow to change my workgroup to Homegroup so I can see this folder?03:55
netlarBeldar: Well things have just esculated, now I cannot access the sound settings from the top panel04:02
Beldarnetlar, This 14.04?04:02
netlarYes, 14.0404:02
Beldarnetlar, I would do a reset and than reboot, I have not used unity in a while but we see resets needed here on occasion. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/04:04
agriyudhiztanyone help me.... I cant update my backtrack .04:04
somsip!backtrack | agriyudhizt04:04
ubottuagriyudhizt: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)04:04
Beldaragriyudhizt, backtrack has been eol for a long time and not supported here.04:04
netlarBeldar: I am going to remove pithos and its ppa first04:05
Beldarnetlar, use ppa-purge on the ppa04:05
rolleiflexhey, I'm packaging my app for ubuntu04:06
rolleiflexwhere does these binaries go?04:06
rolleiflex\/bin/?04:06
somsip!packaging | rolleiflex04:06
ubotturolleiflex: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring04:06
netlarBeldar: I used the sudo add-apt-repository --remove instead04:06
rolleiflexevery time I come here somebody does this, this doesn't help04:06
Beldar!ppa-purge | netlar best use on ppa's04:06
ubottunetlar best use on ppa's: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html04:06
HikaruBGhey guys04:07
rolleiflexthat packaging link is geared towards fixing bugs in ubuntu, I'm trying to package my app04:07
Beldarnetlar, having packages from a ppa can really mess stuff up, we see this on peoples release upgrades daily.04:07
HikaruBGI have a shared folder on Windows 7 machine. I can't see it from my Ubuntu04:07
HikaruBGwhy?04:07
Beldarand just general updates/upgrades04:07
* ObrienDave now has pithos 1.0.0 from ppa04:07
Beldaris it purdy ObrienDave04:08
ObrienDavelooks pretty much the same04:08
somsiprolleiflex: this link from there seems to tell you how to roll your own packages, and has links to reference manuals. Feel free to ask here, but you might be waiting for a while for a packaging expert which is maybe why you see the factoid when you ask http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html04:09
netlarok, Beldar that fixed the sound settings04:09
Beldarnetlar, one down one to go. ;)04:10
rolleiflexsomsip: I see. the question I have is not about packaging, but about where does binaries go in general in ubuntu04:10
rolleiflexwhere do apps save their 'meat'04:10
agriyudhiztokeyy thnksss...04:10
agriyudhiztmm. how to update winhq???04:10
HikaruBGanyone on the network issue?04:10
HikaruBGsharing from Windows7 to Ubuntu04:10
HikaruBG???04:10
rolleiflexI'm going to go put things in /bin/ but I'm pretty sure half the world will complain about that04:10
netlarI just reinstalled Pithos from the repo, still does not show notifications04:11
HikaruBGguys?04:11
Beldaragriyudhizt, kali is its hier, find them and use it.04:11
somsiprolleiflex: that sounds like a packaging issue if you are looking at distributing your own app. I'm not expert <shugs>04:11
Beldarheir*04:11
ObrienDavenetlar, is show notifications checked?04:11
netlarObrienDave: Yes04:12
rolleiflexsomsip: oh well, if it's wrong, people will complain and I'll tell they should've answered my irc request. : P04:12
SchrodingersScatrolleiflex: you monster04:12
rolleiflexSchrodingersScat: represent04:13
netlarObrienDave: I unchecked it and checked it, now it works04:13
somsiprolleiflex: then maybe this is of help, though I don't know if ubuntu follows its own variant to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard04:13
rolleiflexsomsip: yeah, that's the general structure I think. nobody ever follows that exactly though04:13
netlarBut now I worried, I am making my system unstable04:14
Beldarnetlar, Heh, sometimes it is the easiest choice, a app written kinda loose is my guess.04:14
netlarBeldar: Is there anything I can do to check the health of my system?04:15
Beldarnetlar, messing with this app should not make anything but it unstable, seems it may be already but not in any whole OS effect. O doubt your setup is unstable, best insurance is being backed up off the HD.04:16
BeldarO=I*04:16
HikaruBG!samba04:17
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html04:17
netlarBeldar: I do have several apps I installed through ppa's04:17
netlarHow do you correctly purge ppa's again?04:18
Beldarnetlar, Me to, depends on the apps and their dependencies.04:18
Beldar!ppa-purge | netlar04:18
ubottunetlar: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html04:18
BeldarI have ppa's from releases outside the one I use muhaha04:19
netlarThink I got carried away, found some great stuff not in the repo04:20
cynicallemonrolleiflex: the BSD's follow the traditional files structure04:21
Beldarnetlar, It happens, just part of the learning curve if you have issues and can empirically link them.04:21
netlarLink them?04:22
config_OerHeks: Do you know how to use logrotate so that it creates as many log.1,2,3,45,6,7,8,9,..., each of fixed size, so that in sum total they are under a total fixed size (example: 10MB or 10GB).04:22
config_http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples/04:22
config_Does anyone?04:22
netlarBeldar: So compiz gets corrupted sometimes?04:23
Beldarnetlar, For example you do a update/upgrade or a distro upgrade and see errors and they are due to a package or packages from a ppa.04:23
netlarBeldar: never noticed any yet04:24
somsipconfig_: I would expect by limiting the size of each logfile, and the total number of logfiles. Eg rotate 10 and size=1M would limit the size to 10M.04:24
netlarBeldar: Well shoot, Pithos not showing the pop ups anymore04:25
netlarBeldar: Man this is crazy, now it is back04:25
Beldarnetlar, to loose a question for me, to broad, any thing can become corrupted at any time would be the best answer I think of. I reason through the scientific method, critical thinking, the only time this differs is in qualitative research rather than quantitative04:25
Beldaron a good day anyway. ;)04:26
netlarBeldar: I am learning quickly that Linux/Ubuntu is not going to be a mystery, like Windows04:27
netlarWindows can be such a black box04:27
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Beldarnetlar, Depends on how far you get, but I find it fairly easy to work with. I started with open source though and follow some rules that keep it simple.04:28
config_somsip: But I would like to compress all the log files except for the one that is currently being written to (the main, most recent one).04:28
config_?04:28
Beldarnetlar, I'm an armchair user however not an IT person so backups and clones fix all my problems if I hit a brick wall.04:29
somsipconfig_: so you want the compressed size to be the limit?04:29
config_yes04:29
config_somsip: yes.04:29
netlarBeldar: I need to start doing that, soon04:29
netlarBeldar: Only installed this last week04:30
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Beldarnetlar, Takes awhile I have been using ubuntu since 2007 when I returned to college and needed a computer, just happened to get open source is all. ny way this is all offtopic, you will do fine I suspect.04:31
BeldarAny*04:31
somsipconfig_: I'd suggest looking at a postrotate script to delete compressed files that take the total size of (compressed files + current log max size) > total size you want04:31
netlarWell thanks, take care Beldar04:32
Beldaryou to04:32
treatsI'm getting a red alert in top bar. "Update information out of date"  I've recently updated, and I have good clean access to internet.  Shoudl I be concerned??04:33
Beldartreats, What release and have you run a update today?04:33
treats14.04 lts -- just restarted a couple hours ago04:34
treatsafter a update04:34
Beldartreats, what desktop?04:34
config_somsip: well, I actually need the logs to be deleted in order - the log that gets deleted should be the one that's been around the longest.04:34
treatshow do I know?04:34
linuxlidhow to upgrade to gevent 1.1 ?04:34
config_somsip: and do you recommend any specific utilitie(s) for compressing the logs?04:34
somsipconfig_: I understand. So write a postrotate script to do that.04:34
Beldartreats, No Karnack cap?04:35
config_somsip: okay.04:35
somsipconfig_: let logrorate compress them, surely?04:35
treatsnot that I know of Beldar04:35
ObrienDave*zoom*04:36
Beldartreats, A notification if all is well means a security update in gneral.04:36
config_somsip: they're using an existing utility for that, right?04:36
somsipconfig_: you are capable of looking that up04:36
config_somsip: Okay, thanks.04:36
Beldartreats, updates are released daily and at any time in ubuntu.04:37
Beldaror can be anyway04:37
lotuspsychjefor those who want, firefox installed new faster update: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/firefox-32-released-whats-new04:39
lotuspsychje!info firefox04:39
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 31.0+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 31483 kB, installed size 78462 kB04:39
lotuspsychjehmm still showing 3104:39
rwwlotuspsychje: aiui, that data's updated by a cronjob periodically04:40
lotuspsychjerww: ah ok tnx04:40
Beldarlotuspsychje, 24hrs to long for you?04:40
* ObrienDave has firefox 3204:40
somsiplotuspsychje: launchpad show 32. Let it propogate maybe...04:40
lotuspsychjerww: just updated :p04:41
jayviwhat does this mean? "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory..."04:43
jayviit happens every time i try to apt-get update04:43
Beldartreats, Do you have a panel on the left of the screen?04:44
treatsBeldar: yes04:45
hakermania!time04:45
a_random_personThe time here is 2014-09-03 07:4504:45
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)04:45
Beldartreats, Cool, that is the ubuntu desktop called unity, just info.04:46
hakermania!whoami04:46
a_random_personThat's easy. You're hakermania. You thought I wouldn't know?04:46
ubottuuse @whoami04:46
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user123321Please help, my machine again crashed at 10.10 display time with no response, recovered with ctrl+alt+prtsc+R+I+U+S+B. Kernel log around that time: http://pastebin.com/dkS92jui04:47
agriyudhiztI've hdd bad sector after install gnome in kali..04:48
jayvican someone tell me plz what this means? it tells me to use apt-get update when im done but it only appears after i aprt-get update04:48
user123321Are there other types of logs I could check?04:48
jayvino talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory04:48
Beldaruser123321, Looks like swapping04:48
rww!whoami04:48
a_random_personThat's easy. You're rww. You thought I wouldn't know?04:48
ubottuuse @whoami04:48
rwwsigh.04:48
user123321Beldar, Because of this line? "Corrupted low memory at ffff880000006598 (6598 phys) = 100000000000"04:48
Guest18616could be hrd disk error04:48
lotuspsychje!kali | agriyudhizt04:49
a_random_personHm? I don't know this command... yet. So, better take this fortune:04:49
ubottuagriyudhizt: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)04:49
a_random_personYou two ought to be more careful--your love could drag on for years and years.04:49
lotuspsychjerww: seems like you have a new shadow bot :p04:49
ObrienDavewhat, a random response bot? lol04:49
Beldaruser123321, Just a guess here.04:49
rwwlotuspsychje: Yep, already asked the user to remove it :)04:50
user123321Beldar, I see.04:50
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herpderphurrHi all. whenever I try to enter keywords for images in Geeqie, it enters only 1 letter per keyword (as if a newline is inserted between each keypress). It also prevents me from entering a letter twice until I hit a bunch of other letters first. Writing the keywords into a text file and then copy-pasting it into the keyword section on Geeqie works, though.04:51
Beldaruser123321, swapping does feel like a crash however, could be a failing memory, I would set the swappiness to 10 if this is the issue.04:51
user123321Beldar, shall I try disabling swap?04:51
lotuspsychjeis there a package that can take spaces out of a txt file automaticly?04:52
Beldaruser123321, When this happened did you have a lot of stuff running?04:52
jayviso for real 1500 people and nobody can just type a one sentence response -_-04:52
SirLagzlotuspsychje: you could use something like sed to do that.04:52
jayvito what this is no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory04:52
lotuspsychjeSirLagz: tnx mate04:52
lotuspsychje!patience | jayvi04:53
ubottujayvi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:53
user123321Beldar, I was using Firefox.04:53
Beldarjayvi, Some random error with no real details and your complaining?04:53
rwwjayvi: second result in google for that error message: http://askubuntu.com/questions/465004/warning-message-at-command-line-sudo04:53
jayvinot complaining never used linux comes up every time 3 days with no answer04:53
jayvithx yall04:54
rwwI assume you're doing sudo apt-get etc., and it's the sudo bit causing it, not apt-get04:54
Beldar!swap | user123321 look at swappiness04:54
ubottuuser123321 look at swappiness: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info04:54
Beldaruser123321, Maybe run a memory check.04:55
user123321Beldar, You mean a RAM check? Should I have run it when the crash happened or would it have any effect now?04:55
user123321Beldar, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=135083604:58
user123321^this guys has DV6 too :O04:58
user123321guy*04:58
Beldaruser123321, I see a number of issues on this exact error, I saw that one while looking, not really something I can suggest beyond what I have which is a low level start.05:00
herpderphurrHi everyone. I'm looking to post my question on the forums to help give it some time for people to take a look at. Where would a good board be for asking questions about Geeqie, the image and photo viewing/tagging application?05:00
Beldarherpderphurr, Appears to have a dbg package05:01
Beldarubuntu forums is the biggest forum05:02
herpderphurrBeldar: Would it be good to post it to "New to Ubuntu" or "Multimedia"? I would have guessed Multimedia, but it seems multi's more about video and audio rather than images.05:03
user123321Beldar, Should this be error independent of the Ubuntu flavour? Because I'm running LUbuntu now, should there be any reason to change to Ubuntu?05:03
Beldarherpderphurr, I would post it in the general, if the mods think otherwise they will move it.05:04
herpderphurrBeldar: All right. thanks!05:04
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Beldaruser123321, No idea really, I would start with setting the swappiness lower and checking the ram if it were me.05:05
Beldarcould be a graphic issue as suggested, no idea really05:05
user123321Cool, ok. Do you see any harm disabling swap entirely? (other than low mem :p)05:06
Beldaruser123321, No harm, but you can check if swapping, I have a conky that shows it. I would want more exacting info.05:07
Loshkiuser123321: Is it this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155760405:07
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user123321Beldar, Cool05:11
jak2000this permission: -rw-r--r-- is: 644 ? right?05:11
user123321Loshki, My kernal log: http://pastebin.com/dkS92jui05:11
Ben64jak2000: figure it out using binary 421 421 42105:11
Loshkiuser123321: saw it, noticed the low memory corruption msg. That thread says it's a kernel bug. Did I get it wrong?05:12
Beldaruser123321, best thing I ever did in a hardware sense was get a SSD however swapping is not even noticed, makes the 5 year old toshiba laptop run like a champ.05:12
LoshkiBeldar: because it's so fast?05:12
BeldarLoshki, A bit faster but does not get sowed down like a spinning HD is all in specific circumstances.05:13
Beldarslowed*05:13
jak2000Ben64 thanks05:13
BeldarLoshki, More uniformity really.05:15
LoshkiBeldar: interesting, might try it on an old dell laptop which gets bogged down easily...05:15
user123321How about using sysrq to dump task info and stack traces when a crash happens? Hmm I'd have to learn the key combinations from https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt05:16
Loshkiuser123321: in case it's a kernel bug, try a different kernel version first....05:16
user123321an older version? hmm.05:17
lotuspsychjecan i disable these startup deamons safely: speech-dispatcher,kerneloops,rsync,ppd-dns,dns-clean?05:18
nationalsecurityhello05:23
expungehi nat05:23
nationalsecurityhw was ur sleep05:23
expungelotuspsychje: I don't know them, but the only ones that really make me wonder are the dns ones05:23
expungenationalsecurity: yet to be had =)05:23
expungeyours?05:23
coolnhello05:23
nationalsecurityyou now going to hv ur rest05:24
lotuspsychjeexpunge: im just trying to speed up boot time, by disabling unwanted deamons05:24
nationalsecuritywhat is the timethere  now05:24
expungelotuspsychje: best way to speedup boot time is by not rebooting05:24
cooln13:2405:24
expungenationalsecurity: 'bout 223005:24
Seveaslotuspsychje: kerneloops may be useful to keep running, the other ones are fine to disable if you don't use text-to-speech, rsync or ppp05:24
nationalsecurityok05:25
expungeI was going to stay up tonight, having little second thoughts, though =P05:25
coolnand you???05:25
nationalsecurityis 5.30amhere in GHANA05:25
expungemmm, ghana05:25
expungegj in the world cup05:25
nationalsecurityYEAH05:25
lotuspsychjeSeveas: tnx mate05:25
Seveaslotuspsychje: also, get an ssd. Boot time is amazing on those. My laptop boots in less than 30 seconds, including typing my password twice (encrypted harddrive and login)05:25
nationalsecurityYES05:26
lotuspsychjeSeveas: i already got a samsung evo on trusty 64bit, all tweaked up :p05:26
pamI'm looking for a BASIC text editor...that is native to Ubuntu..that is similar to wordpad.  It has to allow me to open multiple instances at once...and not be extremely boated...Open Office won't work...05:30
expungepam: gedit05:30
expungeopenoffice (libreoffice now) being an office suite and not an editor =)05:31
pamexpunge:  whoops..meant to say it needs to have formatting (bold, underline, etc)05:31
pamI'm looking for a BASIC text editor...that has formatting (bold, underline, italics, etc)...that is native to Ubuntu..that is similar to wordpad.  It has to allow me to open multiple instances at once...and not be extremely boated...Open Office won't work...05:32
expungepam: oh a word processor05:33
expungepam: abiword05:33
Beldarpam, The not bloated argument is has no real definition, it is a over used term.05:38
pambeldar: tl;dr05:39
expungeoh I can define it05:39
expungeyou just diff the file space used by libreoffice vs that used by abiword05:39
expungeand that's bloat =) for a word processor05:39
Beldarlol, it is a noob term at best05:40
expungeit's an old word, predates newb05:41
necro606_I am trying to install a run file, but the installer stopped at 100%. what did I do wrong or what did I miss.05:41
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expungenecro606_: I'd have to say, running a .run file at all05:41
pamhaha..j/k by not bloated I meant something that was as small as wordpad05:42
Beldarexpunge, Such an erudite argument like all yours are. ;)05:42
expungeso true05:42
Beldarsigh tweenies05:43
lotuspsychjeSeveas: this was very usefull http://askubuntu.com/questions/310337/which-startup-applications-can-i-safely-disable05:44
necro606_Ok, the Installer just froze up on me and it finished just fine. sry about that. Next time i will be a bit more patient..05:45
kernixhey all05:51
pamthanks all...night05:51
djdr1988I am a new linux user, and I am having an issue with install. I am running and istalling from USB. Installation says it completes successfully, however when i restart the computer, I get "error: attempt to read or writ outside of disk "hd0" entering rescue mode. It runs just fine from usb, how can I get the installed boot to run?05:56
expungedjdr1988: you dual booting?05:57
CorvetteHow do you enter special characters in ubuntu?05:57
CorvetteLike if you want to speak in italian?05:58
djdr1988no. I was unable to get windows to reinstall on this laptop, it kept freezing, so i decided to do a single boot of only ubuntu05:58
expungeCorvette: switch your keyboard layout if you want to do it a lot05:58
SeveasCorvette: I use alt as a compose key so accented characters are, for instance, <alt> ~ n  -> ñ05:59
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expungethe us international layout would get you that06:00
CorvetteSo to do that I have to switch to us international layout06:00
Corvettebecause when i do that now it brings up alt tab06:00
[L]ightdjdr1998: It's a BIOS limit error.06:02
djdr1988[L]ight: is there a fix for it?06:03
[L]ightdjdr1998: Try performing manual partitioning at installation menu.06:03
[L]ightdjdr1998: for /, the root partition, allocate 10 to 15GB. 1 to 2 GB for swap.06:04
djdr1988[L]ight: ok. is there anything else i should be aware of during istallation?06:05
[L]ightdjdr1998: for /home partition, try using between 10 to 10^6 GB.06:05
djdr1988[L]ight: I have to make multiple partitions?06:06
[L]ightdjdr1998: My guess is your BIOS is old.06:06
[L]ightdjdr1998: You could leave out swap, though it doesn't hurt to have it.06:07
djdr1988[L]ight: it is an older laptop. It was running windows, but after windows crashed it wouldnt let me reinstall it, I changed HDD and it still wouldnt work06:07
djdr1988[L]ight: thank you for the advice. I will try that.06:09
[L]ightdjdr1998: If you're not familiar with manual partitioning, please read up on it first.06:11
saleemi get a black screen on ubuntu precise livecd , tried many cheatcodes but i get no display , i have nvidia geforece gt 540 card , whats the fix to go to desktop ?06:12
[L]ightsaleem: define blackscreen.06:12
saleemblack screen as black screen nothing but a black screen no display , i searched on google this had been reprted by many already but there is no apparent fix06:13
ObrienDave!nomodeset | saleem06:14
ubottusaleem: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:14
[L]ightsaleem06:15
saleemObrienDave, i tried nomodeset modeset=0 and nouveau.modeset=0 cheats already but that black screen comes back06:15
djdr1988[L]ight: I am having problems with the partition utility. I dont fully understand how it works. I setup two seperate partitions, and it keeps saying root partition not defined. I am unable to figure out how to make one the root partition06:15
ObrienDavedjdr1988, make the smaller one mount as /06:16
ObrienDaveadd a boot flag also06:16
djdr1988ObrienDave: Now it says that it cant mount to fat32. What type should i mount it as?06:17
ObrienDavedjdr1988, make the larger one mount as /home06:17
ObrienDaveext406:17
[L]ightdjdr1998: ext406:18
djdr1988ObrienDave: ok. should I mount both partitions as ext4?06:18
ObrienDaveyes06:18
djdr1988ObrienDavis: I still have around 292 GB available on the HDD. do i need to partition that or will it be available for use in ubuntu without partioin it?06:23
ObrienDavedjdr1988, add that to your /home partition06:27
[L]ightdjdr1998: otherwise it'll be free space.06:27
djdr1988ok. so I didnt see a /swap so I didnt partition that, so I have a / partition and a /home partition. Is that all I need?06:28
ObrienDaveunallocated space is not usable by any OS afaik06:29
ObrienDavedjdr1988, yup, that should do06:29
djdr1988and it says boot loader is /dev/sdb is that correct?06:29
djdr1988there is no space allocated to that06:30
[L]ightObrienDave: he needs a boot partition doesn't he?06:30
ObrienDaveummm, how many drives in your system?06:30
djdr1988just the one06:30
ObrienDavedjdr1988, are you running from USB stick now?06:31
djdr1988yes I m06:31
djdr1988am06:31
ObrienDave[L]ight, / will be the boot partition06:31
[L]ightI c.06:32
ObrienDavedjdr1988, did you flag / as boot?06:32
djdr1988I havent, I will change that real quick06:32
bubbasauresUsb's and hd's get reversed check it to be sure.06:33
djdr1988now it is suggesting a /swap, but I didnt see that option in the drop box. How do I set that up?06:33
PatmanI had 30 people try a Ubuntu live CD. They all complained any said it was impossible to use06:34
ObrienDavedjdr1988, how much RAM do you have?06:34
djdr19881GB06:34
[L]ightdjdr1998: set swap as twice of RAM.06:34
[L]ightdjdr1998: 2048MB.06:34
ObrienDavemake /swap at least = to or larger at the END of the drive06:35
ObrienDave*than RAM06:35
bubbasauresPartman, and this means what in a support channel?06:35
[L]ightdjdr1998: Swap will be used as extra ram in case RAM runs out of memory.06:35
bubbasauresErr Patman06:35
ObrienDavePatman, i have always had better luck using Live DVD than USB stick. don't know what to tell you06:36
djdr1988Ok. That makes sense, but /swap is not listed in the "mount to" box. Where would I find it?06:36
ObrienDaveyou format /swap as swap06:36
PatmanIt was the ubuntu interface they couldn't work out.06:37
ObrienDavePatman, same as all the other Ubuntus06:37
BarneyyHi guys, I have a Windows 8 on Computer A and Windows 8 on Computer B, I want to install ubuntu 14.04 to Computer B, but USB boot and CD/DVD Boot not work. I want to try Network booting, Computer A and B are in same Local network. Do you have any idea ?06:37
BarneyySimply I want to install Ubuntu from a Windows Network. Is is possible ?06:38
Patmani guess yea unity seems like xfce with less features06:38
Patmanjust kidding xfce is a bit easier to use06:38
djdr1988ObrienDave: I found it, I thought it was a "mount to" . Thank you for your help. Thank you [L]ight as well.06:38
bubbasauresyeah right06:38
ObrienDavedjdr1988, good luck, let us know how it went for you06:39
bubbasauresPatman chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic06:39
djdr1988ObrienDave: Thanks, I will after this installation attempt06:39
* ObrienDave runs Xubuntu ;P06:39
ObrienDavedjdr1988, we'll be here06:40
* [L]ight runs Arch 06:40
* jnhghy runs.06:40
ObrienDavejnhghy, you do and you'll clean it up ;P06:41
bubbasauresBarneyy, W8 with uefi is a bit different install wise, I would not try a network install, and check tue disk and usb.06:41
RedthermHello. Q: Has anyone managed to circumvent the relatively well-known issue of NVidia drivers and 14.04? I have tried a large multitude of the AskUbuntu-proposed solutions without any luck.06:42
ikoniaRedtherm: what well known issue ?06:42
Ben64i was about to ask the same thing06:43
ObrienDaveyou both beat me to it ;P06:43
RedthermThat a lot of people, myself included, haven't been able to install Nvidia drivers.06:43
Ariel_Winterso, I posted an issue that I have on r/linux4noobs but wanted to know if anyone here can help me with this http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/2fc3p0/setting_up_ubuntu_server_with_2_hdd_using_ntfs_as/06:43
Ben64Redtherm: can you get more specific06:43
ikoniaRedtherm: thats certainly not a known problem06:44
ikoniaRedtherm: why don't you explain your problem06:44
[L]ightRedtherm: Kindly define "problem".06:44
RoBo_VGuys started out as primary OS linux, ditching windows (or for gaming only)  (Inspired when worked with debian CLI on raspberry pi - felt much power)   so  ubuntu is good to start with?06:44
ObrienDaveRedtherm, and your system, briefly06:44
RoBo_Vstarting*06:44
RedthermI'll try. One moment.06:44
ikoniaRoBo_V: it is a good and proven linux distribution06:45
[L]ightRoBo_V: Yes. Or Mint. Just avoid Debian.06:45
ikoniathere is nothing wrong with debian06:45
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d4rk_f0rc3indeed06:45
[L]ightikonia: Not user friendly.06:45
ikoniaRoBo_V: try some distros from livecd's to get an idea of what you like,06:45
RoBo_Vbut ubuntu is debian, is in it ?06:45
Guest7966So does anybody have any bitcoin mning interface ideas for ubuntu 13.10?06:45
ikonia[L]ight: yes it is06:45
ikoniaRoBo_V: no06:45
[L]ightRoBo_V: Based on.06:45
ikoniaRoBo_V: try a few distros see what you like/do'nt like then pick the one that works best for you06:45
ikoniaRoBo_V: don't rush in and try to make the first one "the one" you use, try a few06:46
[L]ightRoBo_V: Nope, Debian is definitely not recommended for new users.06:46
RedthermIntel Celeron J1900, 2GHz, Quad-Core, 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz (max 8GB), NVIDIA GeForce 820M 512MB06:46
ObrienDaveRoBo_V, Ubuntu is an excellent OS based on Debian. a lot of new users like it very much06:46
ikoniaRoBo_V: [L]ight is talking nonsense, debian is fine for new users06:46
Guest7966I'm just trying to find out if anybody has heard about non-openCL mining for ubuntu06:46
Ben64debian can work fine for new users, as can ubuntu, or mint, or just about anything else. use what you like, we can't make the choice for you06:46
greeteri'm an experienced user and i've had the best experiences with using ubuntu. but you should check out several, get a feel for what you like best06:46
ikoniaRoBo_V: do some research, pick a few and give them a spin06:46
ikoniaRoBo_V: if you need help with ubuntu, come to this channel and ask06:46
RoBo_VI see, well im not very new to linux. But yes little above beginner.06:47
RedthermI've installed a fresh 14.04 ubuntu, but the intel chip is running the graphics, I gather. I attempted to get the NVidia drivers, older, newer, curren and anything in between with several types of installations, but none of them work, at all.06:47
Guest7966is there a channel for bitcoin miners?06:47
ikoniaRedtherm: why are you getting nvidiia drivers if you are using an intel chip ?06:47
greeterget some live cds of a few distros, or perhaps set up vm's for them if what you want doesn't have a live cd06:47
ikoniaGuest7966: nothing to do with this channel,06:47
[L]ightikonia: Depends on how you perceive it.06:47
ikonia[L]ight: what ?06:48
Guest7966sorry man, I'm totally new to ubuntu  just trying to learn06:48
[L]ightRoBo_V: Might wanna avoid Arch and Gentoo.06:48
RoBo_VGuest7966: #bitcoin-mining06:48
RedthermMy graphics card is NVidia, and I think the processor has some sort of a backup chip in it, which is rather useless.06:48
Guest7966tahnks Robo_V06:48
djdr1988is ubuntu the easiest one to use on a general basis?06:48
ikoniaRedtherm: so this is an optimus card ?06:48
Guest7966thanks*06:48
ikoniadjdr1988: no more/less06:48
Valarkin_Good morning. I could really use some help getting a 14.04 server install configged properly for the web06:48
[L]ightdjdr1998: One of the easiest. Mint too.06:48
djdr1988ok. I am new to linux in general, everyone talks about it being better than windows, and windows failed me again, so gifured I would give it a try06:49
Valarkin_Linux will be better than Windows when you can do a defaulyt install without a degree in Linux ;)06:50
RedthermI'm not exactly sure. My computer isn't a notebook, it's a izarro box.06:50
Redtherm*bizarro06:50
Patmandjdr1988: try linuxmint or pclinuxos. Ubuntus a headache06:50
RoBo_VI see guys ikonia [L]ight ,  I think i will go with ubuntu or from mint06:50
[L]ightPatman: Troll.06:50
ObrienDavedjdr1988, better, best, etc, are subjective to your likes/dislikes and experiences with other OSes06:50
ikoniaRedtherm: I don't know what a bizarro box is06:50
RoBo_Vboth "apt-get" right ?06:50
[L]ightRoBo_V: Both uses apt package manager.06:51
Ben64RoBo_V: just a tip, if you like this support channel, don't pick mint06:51
RedthermI simply mean it's a rather weird computer.06:51
ikoniaRedtherm: what's weird about it ?06:51
RoBo_VBen64: well im kinda liking this support you guys giving06:51
RoBo_Vthank you all06:51
djdr1988ObrienDave: yeah, I understand that, so far I really like having this channel available for help. This is also my first time on anything IRC06:52
RoBo_VI have GTX 660 ti, no problem finding drivers for it on Ubuntu ?06:52
ikoniaRoBo_V: should be well suppported06:52
ObrienDaveRoBo_V, if you like the support, use *buntu flavors06:52
RoBo_VObrienDave: what is that ?06:52
Valarkin_could someone help me through troubleshooting my web server?06:52
ikoniaValarkin_: ask a question then06:53
[L]ightRoBo_V: Derivatives of ubuntu.06:53
Valarkin_it seems to want to serve php raw rather than process irt06:53
ikoniaValarkin_: we don't know ifi we can help until you state what help you need06:53
ObrienDaveUbuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc06:53
Valarkin_I just did :D06:53
ikoniaValarkin_: no you've not06:53
ikoniaValarkin_: explain the problem06:53
Valarkin_I would give more detail but I am unsure what those details are.06:53
RedthermIt's an ASUS Eeebox, which doesn't have any bells or whistles, including a DVD drive and so on.06:53
RoBo_Voh ok ObrienDave differnt desktop s right ?06:53
RoBo_VBut i think i will go with default one for now06:53
[L]ightRoBo_V: Different desktop environments, yes. Along with different software suites for most.06:53
ObrienDaveRoBo_V, yes, same core system, different DEs. I use Xubuntu, XFCE06:54
ikoniaRedtherm: this sounds like an optimus video card, but I'd need to check, what is the model of the video card06:54
Valarkin_I've done a new instll of 14.04. Followed a guide to install things. It wors fine until I ttry to get ruTorrent working then it shows an error and raw hunproicessred php06:54
Valarkin_wow unprocessed*06:54
ikoniaValarkin_: what guide did you follow06:54
Valarkin_http://blog.slowb.ro/2013/06/20/howto-setup-a-multi-user-ubuntu-seedbox ikonia06:55
RedthermNVIDIA GeForce 820M 512MB06:55
RoBo_Vim going into the sould of linux watched some history or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxjElWL8igo  and Liked the free software moment and hence the open soruce concept.06:55
[L]ightRoBo_V: Do try out the command line when you have time.06:55
ikoniaValarkin_: very very very bad guide06:55
Valarkin_got to "Now to add some aliases to make things easier." - added the aliases to bash.rc but they do not seem to work.06:55
Valarkin_Sigh.06:56
Valarkin_BEst I've found thus far06:56
RoBo_V[L]ight: that what inspired me  (i was using CLI on raspberyr pi) and felt it was so powerful.06:56
ikoniaValarkin_: just terrible.06:56
Valarkin_Any recommnedations?06:56
ikoniaValarkin_: I'd recommend re-installing your machine (if it's local to you) and just using packages provided by ubuntu if possible rather than that junk guide06:57
ikoniaValarkin_: you don't have to re-install your machine, but if you've not done anything to it yet, it may be quicker to get it to a clean state after messing around with that guide06:58
* RoBo_V downloading Ubuntu 14.04.1-desktop x64, New Begining06:58
Valarkin_it is using core packages - what specifically is wrong with it?06:58
Valarkin_I do not mind the reinstall - I've been through 13 already ;)06:58
Valarkin_It is more than a little maddening though.06:58
ikoniaValarkin_: it puts lots of junk packages on there, it doesn't really do a good setup of the webserver it pulls down torrent packages from tar files and doesn't setup and security06:58
rainbowwarriorHello , I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 via a terminal in Opensuse 13.1 with debootstrap and I get this error " E: Failed getting release file http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/dists/trusty/Release "  and when I looked for it using Firefox it gave me a 404 Not Found error06:58
ObrienDaveValarkin_, lucky number 14 coming up :))06:59
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: using wget?06:59
rainbowwarriorAnyone know how I can solve my problem please ?06:59
Valarkin_Gotcha - unfortunately I'm not cluied in enough to know what I need and do not.  Linux has come a long way since Slackware06:59
ikoniarainbowwarrior: do a normal intsall06:59
Valarkin_but....06:59
RedthermThere's a bunch of these, reading through them might be a lot of work, but it's something a bunch of people seem to be struggling with.06:59
Redthermhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/128857206:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1288572 in gnome-shell "Nvidia driver does not work in Ubuntu GNOME trusty "14.04" (Optimus laptop) " [Medium,Fix released]06:59
ikoniaRedtherm: gnome shell is nothing to do with your issue07:00
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: scratch that. I misread.07:00
javaisnotlinuxDoes anyone's System log program show the incorrect dates for the logs in the sidebar?07:00
javaisnotlinuxI am using ubuntu 14.04.107:00
rainbowwarriorikonia : I can't otherwise I would hence why I am trying to do it via debootstrap07:00
ikoniaRedtherm: that card dooesn't appear to be an optimus card07:01
ikoniaRedtherm: you may find it easier to just disable the intel graphics card in your bios07:01
javaisnotlinuxIs it ok to remove gnome-system-log as it shows the incorrect dates anayway07:01
rainbowwarrior[L]ight : no problem07:01
javaisnotlinuxwill it mess up my system07:01
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: Can't you just burn the iso to a usb or CD?07:02
Redthermikonia: thanks for taking the time. I'll see what I can do. :)07:02
RedthermReboot.07:02
Valarkin_ikonia - do you know a good base install guide? If I can get the server configged properlay at the base I can then see about getting the toehr gubbins07:03
ikoniaValarkin_: I'm not aware of guides07:03
Valarkin_so where should a noob turn for guidance?07:04
ikoniajust ask people07:04
Valarkin_I am :D07:04
rainbowwarrior[L]ight : I have a dvd but I can not get into the bios on my Acer Aspire V5 571P laptop as the screen is broken and I am using an AOC monitor via HDMI and it keeps booting into OpenSuse , I have tried to get into Ubuntu but it hangs on the login screen and ctrl+alt+f1 just reboots my laptop07:04
ikoniaresearch what's needed for what you want and ask people to help you07:04
Valarkin_"Do a new install" is a bit general07:04
helmut_hi07:05
ikoniaValarkin_: no-one said that is the solution07:05
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Valarkin_ Valarkin_: I'd recommend re-installing your machine (if it's local to you) and just using packages provided by ubuntu if possible rather than that junk guide07:05
ikoniaValarkin_: then read the rest of what I said07:05
albert__yes07:06
Valarkin_ Valarkin_: you don't have to re-install your machine, but if you've not done anything to it yet, it may be quicker to get it to a clean state after messing around with that guide07:06
ikoniaValarkin_: you don't need to paste everything - read the whole conversation07:07
Valarkin_well, I have done a lot, so a new install is easire07:07
Valarkin_but then what.07:07
ikoniaValarkin_: research what components are needed to do what you want, then ask for help in setting them up07:07
Valarkin_getting to a base install is the easy part. knowing what i need and do not is harder07:07
ikoniaValarkin_: or find documentation on how to set each one up07:07
Valarkin_this is my last stop, not my first in terms of research07:07
ikoniaValarkin_: it does't appear that way07:07
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: Try a different mirror.07:07
ikoniaValarkin_: it appears you are just following guides blindly07:08
Valarkin_Appearances can be decieving07:08
Valarkin_knowing what to look for is half the problem07:08
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javaisnotlinuxHi can someone check their gnome system log application which is pre-installed on ubuntu. I think there it s bug07:09
javaisnotlinuxwhere the dates in the side bar don't match the dates in the log07:09
javaisnotlinuxeither that...or I have been hacked?07:09
javaisnotlinuxperhaps07:09
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: please don't make such random things up like "I've been hacked"07:09
Valarkin_Not blindly - I looked at every line of that guide, checked the packages etc on the web07:09
javaisnotlinuxikonia: ok07:09
javaisnotlinuxI would just like to understand what has happend, and wether it is a bug or not07:10
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: have you checked your system time ?07:10
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: have you checked the actual file logs match07:10
Valarkin_ah, to forget what it means to be new.07:11
[L]ightjavascript: something wrong with your time synchro?07:11
ikoniaValarkin_: what ?07:11
javaisnotlinuxikonia: the actually logs when viewing them using less seem to have dates that make sense07:11
javaisnotlinuxThe system time is the current time07:11
Valarkin_Since we are taling about 'seems' - it seems you are more interested in holding forth than helping07:11
ikoniaValarkin_: what ?07:12
Valarkin_Did I mumble?07:12
javaisnotlinuxCould this be a bug in the gnone-system-log07:12
ikoniaValarkin_: I don't understand what you're saying07:12
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: ok, so look at your system clock, does that have the right time ?07:12
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: check the basics first before assuming bugs07:13
Valarkin_It seems you are more interested in being condescending and dismissive than helpful.07:13
javaisnotlinuxYes, it does have the correct time07:13
ikoniaValarkin_: well good luck getting help then,07:13
Valarkin_I was having any prior to being honest?07:13
ikoniaValarkin_: as you can see I'm pretty active in helping people07:13
ikoniaValarkin_: I don't understand what you're saying, sorry07:14
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: ok, so that's a good start07:14
Valarkin_I am asking for noob guidance07:14
Valarkin_you say: go learn linux07:14
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: find an eveny in gnome-system-log07:14
ikoniaValarkin_: no-one said that07:14
[L]ightValarkin_: Google. Stop whining please.07:14
cinahow do I open port :3000 using iptables? I have done this it it has been added but still I cannot access 3000 from the outside. the command I used: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 3000 -j ACCEPT07:14
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: then find the event in the log file07:14
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: see if the time stamps match up07:14
Valarkin_<ikonia> Valarkin_: research what components are needed to do what you want, then ask for help in setting them up07:15
Valarkin_[2014.09.03][09:06] <Valarkin_> getting to a base install is the easy part. knowing what i need and do not is harder07:15
Valarkin_[2014.09.03][09:06] <ikonia> Valarkin_: or find documentation on how to set each one up07:15
Valarkin_[2014.09.03][09:06] <Valarkin_> this is my last stop, not my first in terms of research07:15
Valarkin_[2014.09.03][09:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it does't appear that way07:15
Valarkin_[2014.09.03][09:07] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Try a different mirror.07:15
Valarkin_[2014.09.03][09:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it appears you are just following guides blindly07:15
ikoniacina: that looks a good rule07:15
unopasteValarkin_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted07:15
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javaisnotlinuxikonia: could I type 'logger hello world', and see if it in both gnome-system-log and the actual logs using less?07:15
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: that's a good test07:16
salah_Hi, I have a server where I want to block ALL requests from Chinese and Russian domains/IPs. What is the simplest way to do this?07:16
Valarkin_I came to you with a specific problem : the server is serving raw php instead of processing it07:16
ikoniasalah_: firewall their IP range07:16
ikoniaValarkin_: that specific issue is because the event handler for apache isi not parsing php07:16
Valarkin_you've told me to do a reinstall and to research07:16
cinaikonia: does the order of rules matter? there seems to be a REJECT line before that, like this: REJECT  all -- *  * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 reject-with icmp-host-prohibited07:16
ikoniaValarkin_: that could be because the extension is wrong, or the module is not loaded07:17
ikoniaValarkin_: I told you to do a re-install because the guide you are following is poor, I also stated you do not have to do a re-install,07:17
ikoniaValarkin_: so stop making things up and making out like you've been treated poorly07:17
Valarkin_if I have done nothing to the system - which i have07:17
ikoniacina: the rules matter yes, as if rule 1 sets something and rule 2 unsets it, it's not set07:17
Valarkin_the problem isnt the reinstall its the effort after that and i can not find a straightforward resource for a noob in that regard07:18
Valarkin_forgive my frustration but this has been a week already ;)07:18
royalaxehi guys, has anyone else had this problem > double click on a usb device and ghex opens... unplug plug back in double click opens with file viewer...07:18
dyuwhat does -N stand for in iptables?07:19
javaisnotlinuxikonia:  The 'test' is in both gnome-system-log and when viewing the log using 'less'07:19
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: great do the time stamps match ?07:19
[L]ightdyu: New.07:19
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javaisnotlinuxikonia: yes the time does match07:19
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: perfect,07:20
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: so you know there is not a bug07:20
dyu[L]ight: why does it show up in iptables -S? how is it different from -A?07:20
javaisnotlinuxikonia: problem is, to the left of the gnome-log-viewer there is a sidebar that shows the incorrect date07:20
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: even for the test you just did ?07:21
javaisnotlinuxikonia: yep07:21
cinaikonia: how do I reorder the rules?07:21
ikoniacina: flush them and re-input them07:21
javaisnotlinuxikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-log/+bug/116905207:21
[L]ightdyu: the -A switch is used to append. -N switch is to create a new chain.07:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1169052 in gnome-system-log (Ubuntu) "System log date filtering of side panel shows wrong day contents" [Undecided,New]07:21
ikoniacina: you can re-order them but I've always found that too complex07:21
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: is that what you've just logged or did that exist ?07:21
svectoris Déjà Dup is good tool to backup my current PC and move to a new one?07:22
javaisnotlinuxikonia that already existed07:22
javaisnotlinuxikonia: but it is very old07:22
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: great, put your info in there too, detailing the test we've just done07:22
cinaikonia: I am worried that other people might have added rules, I don't want to mess it up07:22
svectorBoth computers will run Ubuntu 1407:22
javaisnotlinuxikonia: alright, but to confirm you don't think I have been compromised, right?07:22
ikoniacina: backup the rules and re-add them in the correct order07:22
ikoniasvector: I dont think so no07:22
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: why would you be compromised ?07:22
ObrienDavesvector, clonezilla might be a better choice07:23
svectorikonia, oh okay. What do you suggest07:23
svector?07:23
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javaisnotlinuxikonia: the dates are wrong07:23
ikoniasvector: see ObrienDave's comment07:23
cinaikonia: how do I backup the rules? copy /etc/sysconfig/iptables ?07:23
ikoniajavaisnotlinux: one app is showing the wrong date ??07:23
dyu[Ligh] so it's at the same level as INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT? i don't understand what -N fail2ban-ssh does and whether or not it conflicts with -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT07:23
ikoniacina: iptables-save07:23
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djdr1988[L]ight and ObrienDave: you guys are awesome. The manual partition worked perfectly. Thank you guys for your help07:23
ikoniacina: are you using the ufw interface ?07:23
javaisnotlinuxikonia: yeah true, I'[ll stop worrying07:23
I_Heart_Android-Hey guys. Having multitouch issues on 12.04 This normal?07:23
[L]ightdjdr1998: Welcomed.07:23
ObrienDavedjdr1988, YAY \o/ glad it worked out for you +107:24
svectorObrienDave, I checked it out looks like it creates an exact image of my current disk07:24
cinaikonia: thank you :)07:24
svectorObrienDave, will I not run into driver issues?07:24
djdr1988my next question is, how do I access my cdrom drive?07:24
FlannelValarkin_: going through that page (which /is/ quite messy and awful), I don't see an `a2enmod php5` to enable the php module.07:24
ObrienDavesvector, yes, i moved 5 partitions, 3 win 2 'buntu, from a 500GB to a 1500GB. no loss of data at all07:25
ikoniaFlannel: it's  supposed to auto enable now07:25
[L]ightdjdr1998: cd /media07:25
ikoniaFlannel: (on install)07:25
Flannelikonia: I'll believe that when I see it.07:25
ikoniait creates the symlink by default (or should do)07:25
ikoniaFlannel: yes, I agree07:25
svectorObrienDave, driver issues?07:25
Flannelenabling an already enabled module won't cause problems, at any rate.07:25
Valarkin_Hi flannel - That was in one of the solutions I found for the 200 error. I ran it and it said it had nothing to do07:25
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Valarkin_I'm reinstalling now07:26
ObrienDavesvector, nope, none, but i don't use custom drivers07:26
svectorObrienDave, I'm moving from HP to Toshiba..07:26
Valarkin_ikonia - please forgive my outburst. Pent up frustration that has nothing to do with you.07:26
FlannelValarkin_: Alright.  Do you, in all of apache config files, have an AddType for php?07:26
IM_ON_FIRESo I can poke one part of my screen, but I cant poke 2 parts. Anyone know where I can learn X11 compatibility with touch?07:26
ikoniaFlannel: I actually thin it's the extension of the file that's being called looking at the contents of those tar files, but I can't be bothered investigating futher07:26
ObrienDavesvector, that could be a different issue altogether07:26
svectorObrienDave, I want thinking my current environment contains HP specific stuff07:26
Valarkin_I'm just waiting for the fresh install atm flannel.07:27
FlannelValarkin_: Ah, alright.  Once you've done that, you should follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP07:28
ObrienDavesvector, this is true, better to do a clean install and transfer your old data using rsync or something similar07:28
svectorObrienDave, I'm trying only to move my files and things I installed07:28
FlannelI assume you've already got that page, but in case you haven't, that'll get you all set up, explain how to do a number of common things (and deal with some of the pitfalls)07:28
Valarkin_Thanks, flannel. It's really hard to find the right stuff sometimes.07:29
FandralHey guys, I have Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop, and the 500 GB HD is partitioned into a 200 GB ext4 for Ubuntu, a swap, and two other primary partitions sda2 and sda3. I intend to install Vista on sda3, and after hours of formatting, always I get "Windows can't find a partition that meets its criteria for installation". Any help?07:29
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svectorObrienDave, what about Déjà Dup07:29
svector?07:29
FlannelValarkin_: There's a lot of information out there, yes, separating the wheat from the chaff is often one of the hardest parts of trying something new.07:29
ikoniaFandral: vista likes to be on the first partition07:29
ikoniaFandral: install vista first on the disk and before ubuntu07:29
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FandralOk, thanks ikonia. btw can I use GParted etc to safely move my Ubuntu partition sda1 to anything like sda2 etc?07:30
Valarkin_It's frustrating being told by someone who undertands things that you haven't pu in the effort you know you have al well.07:30
ObrienDavesvector, afaik, dejaDup is not good at restoring individual files. it's more of an all-or-nothing solution. i'm not really sure about that07:30
Valarkin_as*07:30
ikoniaFandral: that will move the data, but not reconfigure the OS to be aware that the data has moved07:31
Valarkin_support is empathy + knowledge07:31
[L]ightFandral: Install windows first. Windows completely overwrites the MBR.07:31
ikoniaValarkin_: stop playing the victim07:31
Valarkin_ikonia stop being a dick :D07:31
ikoniaValarkin_: please don't talk to people like that in this channel07:32
ikonia!guidelilnes > Valarkin_07:32
rainbowwarrior[L]ight : I Have tried all the mirrors on www.archive.ubuntu.com yet none of them have a release file :(07:32
Fandralikonia: [L]ight Thanks. Looks like there's no way other than reinstalling Ubuntu, something I was trying to avoid (since it's my primary system, after all).07:32
Valarkin_ok, allow me to rephrase. Stop being over sensitive :P07:32
ikonia!guidelines > Valarkin_07:32
ubottuValarkin_, please see my private message07:32
[L]ightFandral: If you were to install ubuntu first, it will be ignored. Ubuntu overwrites MBR as well, but adds grub entry for windows.07:32
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svectorObrienDave, I actually want my JDK, IDEs, files and some SW. In what cases does CloneZilla work smoothly07:32
ObrienDavesvector, using rsync will compare file-by-file and only update older files ones that don't exist on the target drive07:32
rainbowwarriorI can not seem to find any other Ubuntu 14.04 mirrors :(07:32
ikoniaFandral: have you got much data on your ubuntu system ?07:32
Fandral[L]ight: Indeed. Well, I was counting on using the Ubuntu CD to reinstall Grub anyway, after installing Windows. That wouldn't have been an issue.07:33
Fandralikonia: Around 150 GB. Also, the OS is fully customized, I mean, with tweaks, ppas, wallpapers, custom scripts software etc. So it would be really cumbersome to move it all. :\07:33
ObrienDavesvector, clonezilla is also a all-or-nothing solution. best at making 1-to-1 copies of drives.07:33
ikoniaFandral: yeah, so a re-install in the right order would be a lot of work for you to put back then07:34
rainbowwarrior!topic07:34
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:34
svectorObrienDave, is swapping the physical Harddrives a bad idea?07:34
Fandralikonia: Exactly. But looks like there's nothing else to do. :\ Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway, most appreciated. :)07:34
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: That's all I can do regrettably. Can you make use of virtualization for now?07:34
ikoniaFandral: just trying to work out what's the lesser effort moving the partitions and re-configuring, or backing up the data, and re-installing in the correct order07:35
ObrienDavesvector, you your case i would not recommend a straight swap. same issue, too many HP specific files07:35
rainbowwarrior[L]ight : Yes07:35
FandralIndeed. A reinstall it is, then.07:35
rainbowwarriorerm what is this Ubuntu 14.10 utopic Unicorn ?07:36
ObrienDavesvector, *in your case07:36
FandralAnyway, thanks guys. I'm going to apply the solution now. Most appreciated.07:37
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: name of the ubuntu release.07:37
rainbowwarriorduh me07:37
svectorObrienDave, hasn't anyone come up with a solution for a situation like this?07:38
cfhowlettrainbowwarrior, in a terminal:   cat /etc/issue07:38
ObrienDavesvector, easiest way, rsync your system to a empty directory on an external drive. fresh install Ubuntu to the new computer, drive swap ok at this point. rsync old files/data to new system07:39
svectorObrienDave, cool. Which directories shall I choose to rsync?07:39
ObrienDaveall of them for now07:39
rainbowwarriorcfhowlett : oh I am using openssue 13.1 and want to install Ubuntu using debootstra as my laptop screen is broke and i have had to connect it to an aoc monitor via HDMI , and Ubuntu 13.10 does not like my monitor and hangs on login screen so I am hoping if I can get in and do an upgrade I can then sort out the problem I hope07:40
svectorObrienDave, you mean /07:41
svector?07:41
cfhowlettrainbowwarrior, INTENSE!  and way over my head.07:41
ObrienDavesvector, you probably only need the /home partition files for now, unless you have programs that install to /07:41
svectorObrienDave, /opt has my JDK and other SDKs07:42
svectorObrienDave, and I have no idea what other dirs contain that I probably installed ..:)07:42
ObrienDavesvector, then / , neither does anyone else LOL07:43
[L]ightrainbowwarrior: are you able to boot to cli from login screen?07:43
ObrienDavesvector, i had 600,000 files at one time. no way to know what they all go to LMAO07:43
rainbowwarrior[L]ight : No07:44
svectorObrienDave, haha07:44
svectorbut there should be a way to restore your system without the hardware specific things07:45
svector..07:45
ObrienDavesvector, if you don't mind the cruft, just rsync everything both ways. easiest solution i know of. i'm sure many others here have different ideas about that ;P07:47
svectorObrienDave, what is so bad about Deja Dup?07:48
svectorObrienDave, looks very similar to rsync to me07:48
ObrienDavesvector, it does not like to do individual file, afaik07:48
ObrienDavesvector, look into grsync07:49
* rainbowwarrior bashes head on wall ahh its only pain07:50
ObrienDavepoor wall ;P07:50
ObrienDavewhat did the wall ever do to you? ;P07:51
cinaI hate iptables. I still can't get it to work for a new port (:3131) :'(08:00
rainbowwarriorCan someone please point me to a mirror of Ubuntu 14.10 what has a release file ?08:00
ikoniacina: you previously saiid it was port 300008:00
ikoniarainbowwarrior: it's not released08:00
ikoniarainbowwarrior: so it won't have a release file08:00
ikoniarainbowwarrior: earlier you said it was 14.04 you wanted,08:01
cinaeverything seems fine, /etc/sysconfig/iptables includes this port, I restart "service iptables restart"08:01
cfhowlettrainbowwarrior, choose08:01
cinaikonia: no difference, none of them works08:01
ikoniacina: is this a machine at home or in a data center ?08:01
rainbowwarriorikonia : ahh08:01
cinait's a vps08:01
rainbowwarriorikonia : ok thank you08:01
cinaremote server08:01
Seveascina: /etc/sysconfig/iptables and "service iptables restart" are not how you manage iptables on Ubuntu.08:02
ikoniacina: what version of ubuntu08:02
SeveasThat's a redhat-ism.08:02
ikoniaSeveas: yes.....08:02
rainbowwarriorcfhowlett : I did want 14.04 LTS but I can not find a single mirror with a release file :(08:02
Seveasrainbowwarrior: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/08:02
ObrienDaverainbowwarrior, will a .torrent work for you?08:02
cfhowlettrainbowwarrior, torrents.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/08:02
ikoniahe doesn't need media08:03
ikoniahe's trying to do a debootstrap install08:03
Seveasah08:03
ikoniahence why it wants the release file for the definition of what to get08:03
cfhowlettikonia, that's a package, yes.  package search?08:03
ikoniacfhowlett: sorry what ?08:03
Seveasmy debootstrap is a bit rusty, but I think you need http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release08:03
ikoniaahhh good call pull it from the archive08:04
ikoniathe master08:04
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iptableor pull the official trusty debootstrap config and use that08:04
cfhowlettikonia, never done a debboostrap, but isn't the "release file" a package?  searchable on packages.ubuntu.com   ???  or something similar?08:04
ikoniacfhowlett: yes, but it's also an actual file08:04
[L]ightNight all.08:05
ikoniacfhowlett: the buug I referenced was with the package, but the bug was that the package did not update the physical file08:05
ObrienDavecfhowlett, looks like it's mostly checksums08:05
iptable  amd64|i386)08:06
iptabledefault_mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu08:06
iptablerainbowwarrior, ^08:06
pw_Can anyone help making a lexmark prevail 705 printer work on ubuntu 14.04?08:07
iptablerainbowwarrior, put this in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/08:07
iptablerainbowwarrior, that's the official trusty debootstrap script. once done, you can use standard dbootstrap command to pull trusty08:07
iptablepw_, lexmark drivers on their website are only avaialble for fedora and opensuse as lexmark (company) doesn't know of 21st century yet :D08:09
pw_iptable, so what to do? Throw printer out of window and look for some fresh euros?08:09
iptablepw_, well, I'm sure I can dig the driver out somewhere of the archives, although lexmark and out-of-the-windows sounds about right. worst printers I ever used08:10
rainbowwarrioriptable : says no such file or directory08:10
pw_iptable, they have a 12.04 driver on their site, but I can't make it work on 14.0408:11
iptablerainbowwarrior, you are supposed to CREATE /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty. the directory /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ does exist and holds your debootstrap scripts. I am assuming you did install debootstrap08:11
ExtremeDerpAndSoHey guys08:12
rainbowwarrioriptable : yes08:12
ExtremeDerpAndSoWhen i try to install grub i get this08:12
ExtremeDerpAndSoroot@it:/# grub-install /dev/sda608:12
ExtremeDerpAndSogrub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.08:12
iptablepw_, define "can't make it work"08:12
ExtremeDerpAndSoWhat can i do O-o08:12
cfhowlettExtremeDerpAndSo, why /sda6      ?  grub usually lives on /sda08:13
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, first tell us how did you break grub?08:13
pw_iptable, attribute of printjob: filter failed and cups-filter-crashed08:13
ExtremeDerpAndSoIt's a dual boot, And i have windows 8.1 and ubuntu08:13
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ExtremeDerpAndSoI installed ubuntu, Windows was installed first08:13
rainbowwarrioriptable : I then tried /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/ and it says permission denied08:13
ExtremeDerpAndSoI booted, I got windows 8.108:13
ExtremeDerpAndSoSo i kept playing around in the BIOS till i got ubuntu08:13
ExtremeDerpAndSoThen i ran boot repair thing08:13
Guest31709Hi guys, do you know why the latest flash version was not added for ubuntu 13.10 here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin08:14
ExtremeDerpAndSoAnd then it told me to re-enable efi08:14
rainbowwarrioriptable : and that was as root08:14
ExtremeDerpAndSoSo i enabled it08:14
Guest31709For all the others was added08:14
ExtremeDerpAndSoAnd i got windows08:14
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, also yes, grub would sit in /dev/sda and chainload windows boot if needed. so you shoujld be welcomed by grub from /dev/sda and have a choice form grub to either boot ubuntu or windows08:14
ExtremeDerpAndSoI then disabled it, I got grub rescue08:14
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, you broke it. Enable EFI, windows 8.1 needs it08:14
pw_iptable, I tried a lot. Last thing: I uninstalled the normal driver, tried to force it to use ppd description (which might be stupid, since I am...)08:14
ExtremeDerpAndSoOnce i enable it, How should i get back into ubuntu?08:15
cfhowlettGuest31709, I know why.  13.10 is end of life = no longer  supported = NO upgrades08:15
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iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, did you follow any guides? they would tell you interesting things like "disable secureboot in windows"08:15
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, see this http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/08:15
ExtremeDerpAndSoYeah i killed secure boot08:16
iptablerainbowwarrior, what on earth are you talking about?08:16
iptablerainbowwarrior, createa  file called /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty08:16
iptablerainbowwarrior, put the contents of http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/ in the file08:16
cfhowlett!who08:16
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:16
cfhowlett!!! ^^^ !!!!08:16
cfhowlettthis!08:16
ObrienDavepw_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/437909/help-needed-in-using-lexmark-pro705-with-ubuntu-13-1008:16
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, see the link I have given you with a guide on installation.08:18
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, the guide assumes you have UEFI enabled at all times throughout this08:19
pw_ObrienDave, Installing a 64bit driver on a 32 bit machine?08:21
iptablerainbowwarrior, and once you create the file and put the contents in, you are supposed to make the file executable (chmod 755) and use the command "debootstrap" properly to debootstrap a trusty environment.08:21
iptablepw_, you cannot install a 64 bit driver on a 32 bit machine08:21
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, Okay08:22
pw_iptable, that is suggested in the link ObrienDave posted...08:22
iptablepw_, you would need to find the same file, same version but 32 bit.08:22
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, So i have to re-install ubuntu, :(08:22
iptablepw_, you never told us it's 32 bit.08:22
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, for a new ubuntu / linux user that would be preferred, considering you never got it working yet08:23
iptablepw_, is it a 32 bit CPU, or just using 32 bit linux?08:23
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, I actually have a working ubuntu, I even updated it and installed drivers, I just cannot boot into it08:23
pw_iptable, it is a 32bit cpu08:23
pw_iptable, or... i think...08:24
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iptablepw_, then you would need to find the driver in a 32-bit edition and then follow the install guide ObrienDave gave you (which fixes permissions too). welcome to lexmark world of adventures :D08:24
ObrienDave!details | pw_08:24
ubottupw_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)08:24
iptablepw_, what CPU is it? find description from "cat /proc/cpuinfo"08:24
pw_ObrienDave the details would be...08:25
Vladimir_I need to add timestamp to new files that comes in to a directory, i got this: NOW=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d")     FILENAME="hostnamn.$NOW.txt         but I don't know what to do with it, do I put it inside a text file or just type it?08:25
pw_iptable, how do i post the whole output of that command?08:25
ObrienDavepw_, pastebinit08:25
geirhaVladimir_: Careful, you should not use uppercase variable names.08:26
ObrienDave!pastebinit | pw_08:26
ubottupw_: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com08:26
iptablepw_, I said "description" line08:26
ExtremeDerpAndSo-.-08:26
iptableVladimir_, I have failed to understand your question. what do you want to do exactly?08:26
coolnhello08:27
addikshi, does anybody know how to deactivate nfs4-delegation in 14.04? i've already tried to put "NFS_SERVER_DELEGATION=off" into /etc/defaults/nfs-kernel-server with no effect.08:27
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, I actually have a working ubuntu, I even updated it and installed drivers, I just cannot boot into it08:27
geirhaVladimir_: Sounds like you want incrond08:27
Vladimir_iptable: I want all files that comes in to a specific directory to add a timestamp(current date/time) to the file name.08:27
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, so how is/was it working? what did you do to break it? please give us full story this time. We are tired of guessing and cannot read your mind.08:27
geirhaVladimir_: Though I have to ask, why the current timestamp and not the file's timestamp?08:27
linuxgeneralvx08:28
linuxgeneralfsdfsdsd08:28
linuxgeneralhello08:28
linuxgeneralwhat is zhis08:28
pw_iptable, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep description should give that??08:28
iptableVladimir_, so you want to rename all files in a directory? or wnat it to work every time a file is added? this is NOT a simple task, you need inotifywait08:28
iptablepw_, why can'y you just cat the file and scroll up a few lines.08:28
iptablepw_, here, if you scrolled you'd find the description of your cpu in "model name" actually :/ model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       M 640  @ 2.80GHz08:29
pw_iptable, If you mean this line: model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz08:30
somsipVladimir_: if you want a script you can adapt (by changing the dir being monitored and the actions to be taken) you can crib from this http://is.gd/5yAlUH08:30
linuxgeneral?08:30
iptablepw_, so you have a very strong and fast 64 bit CPU and have installed a 32 bit ubuntu08:30
ObrienDavepw_, that would be a 64bit CPU08:30
iptablepw_, if you can, reinstall to 64 bit ubuntu08:30
pw_iptable , that would solve the problem?08:31
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ObrienDavepw_, not necessarily, but it's a good start08:31
iptablepw_, that would make your machine much faster and allow you to follow ObrienDave instructions08:31
Vladimir_somsip: thanks, it looks very advanced :/08:32
iptablepw_, you should always use 64 bit OS on 64 bit CPU, it makes it much faster and helps keep up with current world.08:32
enclosedcurrent world08:32
enclosedlol08:32
iptableVladimir_, as we said, it is NOT a simple script08:32
pw_iptable and ObrienDave: Ok, there we go again... how can I know from the model name that it is 64 bit?08:32
iptablepw_, all core i7 are 64 bit08:32
Vladimir_geirha: Just the current time and date08:32
ObrienDavepw_, trust us, an I7 is 64bit08:33
iptablepw_, you could just enter the name "Intel Core i7 64 or 32 bit" into google and you would find out08:33
sapikYeah its 6408:33
iptablepw_, intel's website says that as well08:33
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pw_iptable and ObrienDave: of course i trust you !!08:33
Vladimir_iptable: It doesn't sound hard, I mean the only thing this does is waiting till a new file arrives to the directory and add a date to the end of the file name :/08:33
somsipVladimir_: you need watchdirs at the top, your renaming functions in the while loop, and that's about it. It's not a trivial task. Maybe best to cronjob every minute and rename any files that dont have a timestamp (kludge)08:34
pw_iptable and ObrienDave: see you back after reinstall!08:34
ObrienDavepw_, we'll be here :)08:34
Vladimir_somsip:  okej, I'l try it=)08:34
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, Ok, I had windows 8.1 64 bit, I had efi on, I installed ubuntu, I reboot after installation was complete, I get to windows, I killed EFI and set " OS Optimization " to " Other OS", Then i boot up, I get ubuntu, I run startup repair thingo, I follow it08:34
iptableVladimir_, no, wait until a rocket ship lands in my back yard, walk in, and fly to moon doesn't sound hard either08:35
ExtremeDerpAndSoThen i boot up, I get GRUB rescue terminal, I go into live disk and i erase the " boot " partition which was sda608:35
ObrienDaveiptable, you mean "climb in" ;P08:35
ExtremeDerpAndSoAnd here i am08:35
somsipVladimir_: even easier - create an incoming folder and monitor that in the cronjob. Move and rename anything in there to your destination folder.08:36
iptableVladimir_, actual waiting for new file in a dir and executing this is more than level 1 difficulty08:36
iptableObrienDave, yeah, that :P08:36
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, That's all i know08:36
iptablesomsip, well, he could use inotifywatch to find new files the moment they come in instead. then he could run it in screen session, as a daemon etc08:36
iptableVladimir_, ^08:36
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, no, your ubuntu should have run from EFI08:37
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, the install was incorrect08:37
somsipiptable: as suggested in my linked script, but he's admitted it may be too tricky so an alternative was suggested08:37
ExtremeDerpAndSo.-.08:37
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, when isntalling ubuntu, install grub into /dev/sda! Don't touch what you don't need to and ubuntu and windows will boot from EFI. And ubuntu grub will welcome you with OS choice08:37
Vladimir_iptable: I already have a script that sends files to this directory, but the name is the same every time so I need to add current date to these files to differ them from each other08:37
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, sda1 is actually windows recovery partition08:38
iptableVladimir_, oh, so you own a script which sends files to that directory. you could have told us that.08:38
iptableVladimir_, we cannot read minds08:38
somsipVladimir_: then change the filename in that script?08:38
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, /dev/sda! the MBR, not sda1, sda08:39
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, that's where ubuntu grub should go08:39
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, I cannot see that in GParted08:39
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, sda is NOT a partition, it's MBR.08:39
matthew_||sa08:39
Vladimir_iptable: but the problem is not to send files to that directory, it's the adding date/time to the files in that directory08:39
matthew_||Türk var mı gençler08:40
ObrienDaveExtremeDerpAndSo, yes you can see sda, right above sda108:40
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, so no, gparted will not show it. it's the first 512 bytes of your hard drive. you should NOW fiddle with this unless you know what you are doing. Otherwise, you should have left it as default, and installed to /dev/sda08:40
iptableNOT fiddle that is08:40
somsipVladimir_: you've been given 3 solutions now. Which one are you going to use?08:41
Vladimir_somsip: I can't change that since its a script to a network device and its a command that is initiated on the network device, it will always be the same name, I would need change it everytime the script is executed08:41
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, Ok.08:41
iptableVladimir_, I don't know your script, I cannot see it. I don't know what your variables are, I cannot tell you how to modify it. I cannot read your mind or see your screen. Neither can somsip08:41
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, Imma try following that tut's instructions and see what happens.08:42
ObrienDaveExtremeDerpAndSo, oops, nevermind, getting tired ;P08:42
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, ok08:42
matthew_||la08:42
Vladimir_iptable:  I don't have a script to appeding date/time to files, the script i've got is only for execeting tftp sending commands from a network device08:42
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somsipVladimir_: so you either scan the directory manually every minute (cronjob, not so good) or use inotifywait (better, but not trivial). You need to help yourself by being fully aware of your problem and what the best solution for your need is going to be. I recommended finding out how to do it with inotifywait, even if it is difficult for you it is the only way you will learn08:43
Vladimir_iptable: I believe I need another script or tool that adds timestamp to filenames in a directory, the files will already arrive every week in that directory(that's not the problem)08:43
iptableVladimir_, you said that script puts the files in the directory. then it's the script you need to modify to rename the fiels as you do so. I cannot tell you how to modify it, what to add and where, becuase I CANNOT SEE IT!08:43
iptableVladimir_, or use another script which does monitoring and renaming if you prefer, that's fine.08:43
Vladimir_iptable: yeah exactly, I need a totally new script =)08:44
iptableVladimir_, because modifying current one is too difficult, ok.08:44
Vladimir_and as you all say I can use inotify to create a new script for this?08:44
somsipVladimir_: we've both told you this a number of times. I'm out of this now as it's too much of a struggle to help you08:45
iptableVladimir_, no, you can use a text editor. you can use inotify IN your script to get notifications on when new files come in to the directory. it's a monitoring app.08:45
* iptable goes to get a coffee. too early for this...08:45
Vladimir_iptable: okey=)08:46
Vladimir_I just don't get why you are mentioning my old script that sends commands to a network device :/08:46
iptableVladimir_, because if you have a script which puts files in that directory (you said you do), then you can make it rename the files as it's doing it! it's the BEST option. The actual proper workflow, not sure why you are not seeing this.08:47
Vladimir_iptable: it's just an expect script, it can't do much of other stuff than just send commands through an ssh / telnet session08:48
iptableVladimir_, it can... or you can wrap around it with bash08:48
* iptable really goes to get that coffee now. getting too tired at 9.50am08:48
Vladimir_iptable: Okey well I have never done much of bash scripting :/´08:49
Vladimir_iptable: no worries, I'll try to solve it somehow=)08:49
iptablein which case you could listen to what we say and cooperate08:49
* iptable really REALLY goes to get that coffee NOW08:49
ObrienDavethat would be WAY too easy ;P08:49
Vladimir_iptable: I'm trying, I've never done any bash scripting o other scripting except this simple expect script so it's hard for me to understand exactly what you mean08:50
* ObrienDave goes to get a very large Earl Grey tea ;P08:51
Vladimir_I will try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ =)08:54
Vladimir_Thanks for all the help guys, sorry if I got to your nerves..08:55
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ObrienDaveahhhhh, the pause that refreshes ;P09:00
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geirhaVladimir_: you are using expect with ssh ?!09:06
dlawrencehello09:07
ObrienDavedlawrence, greetings & welcome09:07
ObrienDaveand goodbye LOL09:09
cynicallemonlol09:09
* ObrienDave loves self helpers like that ;P09:10
Vladimir_geirha: yes?09:10
iptablemorning cynicallemon09:10
iptableVladimir_, read about "ssh key authentication", and ssh-copy-id etc. no need for expect. ssh already has perfect and safe mechanisms to do passwordless auth09:10
cynicallemonevening iptable09:11
iptablecynicallemon, good time(local);09:11
Vladimir_iptable: I got this to work, so it' no problem =)09:11
cynicallemonlol09:11
cynicallemongood utc09:11
iptableVladimir_, there is the wrong way and there is the right way. ssh+expect is the wrong way, but as you wish09:11
Vladimir_iptable: why is it the wrong way?09:12
clonehWhere can I create own desktop files for the default applications list in the system settings?09:12
iptablecynicallemon, ah yes. so according to UTC, good morning09:12
clonehI want to set Gmail (opened mit Chrome) as my default mail application.09:12
mjaykcloneh: you cant in the system settings try googling desktop icons ubuntu09:12
cynicallemoniptable: very much so09:13
iptableVladimir_, for a start you have a password in a plain-text file. you also have a script which pretends to be an interactive keyboard. so may things can go wrong and errors occur in ssh and you expect script will either hang or plunge on, instead of dealing with e.g. "domain not found" or "host unreachable" errors09:13
Vladimir_iptable: thing is with expect I just send all the commands to the switch that I need to execute and that's it, no need for advanced scripting or programming :/09:13
clonehmjayk, I know that I can create desktop icons in ~/.local/share/applications - but these are not the files shown in the lists.09:13
iptableVladimir_, uhm what? expect is more complicated than ssh-copy-id ran once and a bash script. a lot more complicated.09:13
iptableVladimir_, for a start you have a password in a plain-text file. you also have a script which pretends to be an interactive keyboard. so may things can go wrong and errors occur in ssh and you expect script will either hang or plunge on, instead of dealing with e.g. "domain not found" or "host unreachable" errors09:13
iptableVladimir_, you are not really willing to learn, are you?09:14
Vladimir_but how do I send commands with ssh-copy-id?09:14
Vladimir_I mean without expect iptable09:14
iptableVladimir_, have you even tried to read it's manual...09:14
iptableVladimir_, or just bluntly ask without even reading a single line of what it does?09:15
mjaykiptable: understand there are many way to do things no right or wrong way just compromises.09:15
ObrienDavemanual? we don;t need no stinking manual ;P09:15
mjaykmanuals are for catching bin juice09:15
iptableVladimir_, ssh-copy-id user@host will copy YOUR ID to remote side (you will need to enter password here). After that, ssh user@host "your-command-here" will just work without a password as remote host will trust you09:15
iptableObrienDave, mjayk, apparently...09:16
iptablemjayk, no, there are wrong ways. storing your ssh password in a plain-text expect shell file IS exactly that. expecially when ssh has a perfectly acceptable, simple to use mechanism for passwordless auth. which is even easier as well.09:16
Vladimir_Well I got the tip from my linux teacher to use expect :/¨09:16
Vladimir_but it sounds like ssh-copy-id is a safer way to go09:17
iptableVladimir_, safer and correct.09:17
iptableVladimir_, your linux teacher either doesn't like you, or most likely, doesn't know enough about linux to teach09:17
Vladimir_iptable: I am willing to learn, I've been trying to solve this project for almost 3 weeks, i tried to get rancid working without success..09:18
mjaykiptable:  those who cant an all09:18
iptableVladimir_, if he has given you a project which includes getting an unsupported package working which needs wine/recompoiling and told you to use expect shell with ssh, I would question his teaching abilities.09:19
iptableVladimir_, you ssh-copy-id ONCE, and then just do your ssh stuff without passwords from a simple bash script. and if you need to copy files, use scp instead please. it will also be passwordless from ssh-copy-id.09:20
Vladimir_it's not a project for school, I'm creating an automation for backup of network devices at an internship for an IT company09:20
iptableVladimir_, DEFINITELY not use expect. backups are meant to be 100% solid, not glued fun projects09:20
iptableVladimir_, then in your bash script as you scp files over, you can rename them as you go along for example. 1 script.09:21
geirhaVladimir_: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/06909:22
karab44hello09:23
Vladimir_iptable: thanks09:24
karab44I have problem when I download with Firefox it opens i.e. zip with gedit. Many files opens with gedit.09:24
karab44I have I have Save file/ Open with - gedit(default)  dialog box09:24
karab44it doesn't occur in the system, only in FF. Zips are opened by archive manager by default.09:24
ObrienDavekarab44, use chrome09:25
theadminkarab44: Firefox is dumb, it doesn't understand filetypes under Linux from what I know, it opens everything in the same application. To resolve it, point it to open files with /usr/bin/xdg-open09:25
iptableoi, firefox is intelligent and works most of the time09:26
ObrienDaveMOST of the time ;P09:26
karab44Yeah, I agree because some time ago it was fine, it started to mess around 2-3 months ago09:26
iptableand does understand file types karab44, against what theadmin wrote. file types theadmin are NOT linux types. they are HTML mime-type09:27
iptablekarab44, if you move your profile away and create a new one, does it still have that issue?09:27
theadminiptable: Ah, that would explain it, most downloads are served as application/octet-stream I would assume.09:27
iptablekarab44, just to see if it's global config or profile config09:27
karab44iptable: That's good experiment, I'm on my way to try that. Is quest profile good enough?09:28
karab44guest09:28
iptabletheadmin, most are served with correct type. the ones firefox has actual problem with chrome will fail as well. this is a file-association issue in firefox configuration09:28
karab44brb09:28
iptablekarab44, no09:28
karab44new one? OK09:28
iptablekarab44, wait09:28
theadminiptable: Well, last I checked it was basically -- I configure FF to open .jpg files with eog, it decides all of a sudden that everything needs to be opened with eog as well09:29
karab44I can use livecd if we talk about extremes :)09:29
theadminiptable: I mean, there probably is a better way to resolve it, but I just pointed it to xdg-open and all was fine09:29
karab44brb09:29
glcheethamhey guys, everytime I boot ubuntu (14.04) my font scaling factor gets smaller and smaller, and I have to go into unity-tweak-tool and change it back every so often. This has been happening since I installed ubuntu. Any idea what's going on?09:29
iptablekarab44, stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla09:29
iptablekarab44, ^09:29
iptabletheadmin, it is one way to solve the issue, yes09:30
ObrienDaveglcheetham, that makes no sense09:30
karab44guys09:30
karab44I took me 3sec to find out that on guest session FF works smart09:30
minimecglcheetham: If you added a new user... would you see the same behaviour or could it be that you just messed around with your current users configuration?09:31
glcheethamObrienDave, I know, right? Never had this before09:31
theadminkarab44: Perhaps some add-on borked it up?09:31
theadminglcheetham: Check your startup apps for some odd scripts perhaps09:31
iptableglcheetham, sticky keys or an issue with the mouse scroller wheel being on short circut?09:31
glcheethamiptable, no09:31
karab44so question remains is this FF config or maybe account profile config09:31
iptablekarab44, now, in order to see if it is the FIREFOX profile or YOUR USER profile, do what I asked you to09:32
iptablekarab44, stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla09:32
karab44theadmin: I tried FF in failsafe mode and no config was running, behaviour remains the same.09:32
k1lkarab44: rename the .folder for firefox in your home and restart firrefox. so its starts with a clean profile09:32
karab44k1l: great idea09:32
iptablek1l, I just told him to do it 3 times09:32
iptablekarab44, again: stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla09:32
k1liptable: then karab44 should just do it09:32
iptablek1l, would be nice, no?09:32
karab44hehehe guys I don't read that fast. I was working for 16 hours :)09:33
glcheethamtheadmin, no crazy scripts09:33
ObrienDaveglcheetham, what is the DPI set to?09:33
glcheethamObrienDave, default, i guess, for a 1366x768 screen. I changed scaling factor for menu and title bars to 0.875, however09:34
glcheethamObrienDave, let me see if I can be a bit moer specific09:35
ObrienDaveglcheetham, appearance, fonts, DPI should be 9609:35
iptableglcheetham, so you have made scaling factor changes and now scaling factor seems to change after every reboot?09:35
iptableif you revert changes, is the problem fixed?09:35
glcheethamiptable, yep that's right09:36
glcheethamiptable, no, still happens09:36
karab44okay seems that firefox with fresh, default config behaves exactly like with before. I see dialog box with gedit as default.09:36
rainbowwarrioriptable : I am doing a " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty trusty and get an error " usr/share/debootstrap/functions: line 1303: /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/test-dev-null: Permission denied "09:36
iptableglcheetham, in any case, it is connected to the changes you made. now, tell us exactly what change and where09:36
iptablekarab44, sorry, I missed that. so firefox with new profile WORKS or behaves like with old profile, i.e. incorrectly?09:36
karab44pardon, incorrectly09:37
iptablerainbowwarrior, I guess permission is denied. 1. does the directory learing to the test exist, and 2. are you running debootstrap as root09:37
karab44but as I already found out, works good on guest profile09:38
iptablekarab44, right, so it's not firefox issue but user profile issue (since with a new user profile on same system issue is resolved)09:38
ObrienDavekarab44, have you tried setting the default app through file manager? (right click, open with)09:38
glcheethamiptable, I changed the scaling factor for menus and title bars to 0.875, and I think that's it as far as settings go09:38
CeninantWhat did the mozilla team break now?09:38
iptableCeninant, nope, it's user profile in ubuntu, not firefox09:38
iptableglcheetham, how and where exactly did you change it?09:39
karab44ObrienDave: there is no default app assigned in firefox, in system there is default app assigned to open files but regardless to that FF opens it in gedit anyway.09:39
glcheethamObrienDave, please see here http://imgur.com/dYtCuX309:39
glcheethamiptable, I changed all those settings through the gui, system settings -> appearance -> whatever09:40
glcheethamiptable, however, I did modify the text scaling factor through unity-tweak-tool09:40
ObrienDavethat should not matter09:41
karab44brb09:41
sagarhey09:41
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glcheethamObrienDave, aye, 'tis a mystery09:41
Cuppa_coffeeanybody know why chrome/gmail displays some text in emails rather garbled and why firefox/gmail dont have that problem? (ubuntu 14.04 btw)09:42
ObrienDaveglcheetham, rather than using scaling, may i suggest you gust change the font size?09:42
iptablespeaking of chrome :P09:42
glcheethamiptable, I did install ccsm at one point and modified a few settings (I can't remember what)09:42
theadminCuppa_coffee: Encoding setting, perhaps09:42
theadminCuppa_coffee: Menu -> Tools -> Encoding -> Auto detect09:43
glcheethamObrienDave, just tried that, I will report back if anything is fixed or not09:43
iptableglcheetham, so quite a few things tweaked and modified then. Issue present with a fresh user profile?09:43
ObrienDave*just09:43
Cuppa_coffeein the browser? It's utf-8. and on auto09:43
theadminCuppa_coffee: Oh huh09:44
iptablekarab44, well, it's file associations in your profile for firefox that have the issue. using the workaround theadmin presented might be a quick and working fix09:44
theadminCuppa_coffee: Perhaps in GMail itself, then, there's a setting there too.09:44
theadminCuppa_coffee: Try clearing browser data, see if it helps09:44
rainbowwarrioriptable : yes and i realised what I did wrong and now I get this error " E: No such script: 14.0409:44
rainbowwarrior "09:44
karab44iptable: "point it to open files with /usr/bin/xdg-open"?09:45
theadminkarab44: Yeah, that09:45
glcheethamiptable, issue does not appear to be present with a fresh user profile09:45
karab44:)09:45
karab44ty09:46
rainbowwarrioriptable : I am typing " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty "09:46
Cuppa_coffeetheadmin, i'll try that later. Figured it would be better if i first tried to google the problem :P09:46
Cuppa_coffeesorry to waste your time09:46
stonnerhi everyone09:47
iptablerainbowwarrior, spaces09:47
iptablerainbowwarrior, you cannot just use spaces like that!09:47
stonneri have a nvidia card, and i am suffering with a bug: nvidia has fallen off bus09:48
stonneri am on ubuntu 14.04 64bits09:48
iptablerainbowwarrior, /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ? directory name with spaces without quotes. cannot be.09:48
stonnerlastest default kernel09:48
stonnerdefault ubuntu kernel09:48
kevinhi everyone09:48
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stonnernvidia 331.89 driver09:48
iptableglcheetham, so it is a configuration issue in your user profile. well, we got this far.09:48
stonneranyone hows how to fix that?09:49
iptablestonner, falled off bus?09:49
iptablestonner, what?09:49
glcheethamiptable, :-)09:49
RoBo_Vguys my md5sum not maching with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes downloaded ths ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso09:51
Cuppa_coffeetheadmin, zooming in to 110% fixed the display issue. Am i correct in assuming it's a chrome bug?09:51
theadminCuppa_coffee: ...well that's odd, it might be09:52
cfhowlettRoBo_V, bad iso.  get a new one09:52
stonneriptable, nvidia has fallen off bus, i see this message in logs09:52
iptableuhm, ok09:52
Cuppa_coffeesame for zooming out btw. I think I'll go for ye olde n00b solution: wait for the developers to fix it09:52
geirhaRoBo_V: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/MD5SUMS  does any of these match?09:52
stonneriptable, my computer freezes, when i am playing counter strike source09:53
ObrienDaveRoBo_V, torrent from http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent09:53
RoBo_Vcfhowlett: HOW ?  downloaded from ubuntu website officially09:53
geirhaRoBo_V: The wiki seem to be stuck at 14.04, but the latest is 14.04.109:53
cfhowlettRoBo_V, bad downloads happen.  use torrents09:53
iptablestonner, try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-rhel-fedora-linux-nvidia-nvrm-gpu-fallen-off-bus/09:53
ObrienDaveRoBo_V, OOPS, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent09:54
geirhaRoBo_V: 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso09:54
karab44theadmin: it did help indeed09:54
iptableRoBo_V, your download failed. maybe it stopped and thought it succeeded, or maybe some other error in transmision. re-download09:54
RoBo_Vevigrande: oh thanks yes 14.04.1 it is09:54
RoBo_Vmatcheddd09:54
RoBo_VYuppy !09:54
iptableoh09:54
iptableduh09:54
iptableI assumed user was checking the correct file :P09:55
RoBo_Viptable: cli cant be wrong, just did "wget"09:55
RoBo_VxD09:55
iptableRoBo_V, it CAN09:55
geirhait's help.ubuntu.com's fault for lagging behind imo09:55
karab44but when I set open zip to Archive manager it didn't work, only pointing explicitly to xdg-open did the trick. How interesting is that.09:55
RoBo_Vgeirha: right wiki stucked at 14.0409:55
iptableRoBo_V, on occasions I had issues with download from certain servers which would at high load times send a message "complete, end of transmission" to all clients, resulting in wget thinking that the file was fully downloaded.09:55
iptableRoBo_V, just because it's wget doesn't mean your file is OK. also, your ISP could be modifying packets.09:56
iptablekarab44, glad you got the workaround to work though09:56
glcheethamso who knows how to reset my user profile to defaults?09:56
RoBo_Viptable: I see, wll im on my way to make Ubuntu as my primary OS . will explore more as goes09:57
RoBo_Vditching windows (or for only gaming)09:57
iptableglcheetham, create new profile, move all relevant data files to new profile, remove old profile09:57
stonneriptable, doesnt works for me09:57
stonneriptable, i tried09:57
karab44That was annoying and disturbing but not very harmful (until I opened 500MB file with notepad) yes, thank you  :)09:57
cfhowlettglcheetham, nule your /home09:57
iptableRoBo_V, good for you :)09:57
cfhowlettnuke09:57
glcheethamcfhowlett, lol09:58
joedoe-https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/965371 - reintroduced this bug09:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 965371 in openssl (Ubuntu Precise) "HTTPS requests fail on sites which immediately close the connection if TLS 1.1 negotiation is attempted, on Ubuntu 12.04" [Medium,Triaged]09:58
glcheethamwell, i'll get right on it09:58
iptablestonner, tried reinstalling the driver? and how did you install it in the first place?09:58
joedoe-14.04 LTS09:58
stonneriptable, i purged nouveau drivers, and installed 331.89 nvidia driver10:00
stonneriptable, i reinstalled millions of time10:00
stonneriptable, already10:00
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ObrienDavestonner, did you reboot after installing?10:02
stonnerObrienDave, yes10:02
cynicallemonstonner: how did you install the video driver?10:03
stonnerObrienDave, with nouveau drivers the system doesnt crash10:03
stonnercynicallemon, first i change to a virtual terminal10:03
rainbowwarrioriptable : I done a " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu /var/run/media/wolfheart/"Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64"/dists/trusty10:03
rainbowwarrior " with the quotes and now I get this error "10:03
rainbowwarriorE: unknown location /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release "10:03
RoBo_VGuys what is this .fude_hidden file in my samba shared folder, can't delete it10:03
stonnercynicallemon, i purged nouveau drivers10:03
stonnercynicallemon, blacklisted nouveau driver10:03
stonnercynicallemon, rebooted10:04
stonnercynicallemon, go virtual terminal again10:04
stonnercynicallemon, closes X window10:04
stonnercynicallemon, installed nvidia 331.89 driver10:04
ObrienDaverainbowwarrior, debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu "/var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty"10:04
stonnercynicallemon, rebooted the system10:04
ObrienDaverainbowwarrior, you can't use quotes in the middle like that10:05
cynicallemonstonner: did u manually download and install nvidia driver?10:05
stonnercynicallemon, yes10:05
ech0s7i have this problem: i have a daemon script that play audio (with aplay) every 5second. If i run this script from shell works perfectly. But if i launch it at boot (from /etc/rc.local) with same user, i don't hear audio. I have noticed only one difference with "ps aux", that when i launch from shell process have a TTY dedicated, instead from launching at boot from rc.local haven't a TTY. Why i don't hear audio when i launch at boot ??10:05
cynicallemonstonner: why didnt you do it via ubuntu?10:06
rainbowwarriorObrienDave : Ok I done that and got this error " E: unknown location /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release10:06
rainbowwarrior"10:06
stonnercynicallemon, because i prefer to use a more recente nvidia driver10:06
cynicallemonstonner: so maybe thats your issue?10:06
iptabletonnwhy did you purge nouveau?10:07
iptablestonner, and HOW did you install nvidia driver?10:07
stonnercynicallemon, i tried ubuntu packages too, but no success10:07
iptablestonner, 1. shouldn't purge nouveau, 2. I need to know how you isntalled it.10:07
stonneriptable, i blacklisted nouveau10:08
iptablerainbowwarrior, precreate the directory10:08
stonneriptable, after nvidia installed, i removed nouveau10:08
iptablestonner, HOW?10:08
stonneriptable, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau10:09
iptablestonner, I will ask last time. HOW DID YOU INSTALL IT!10:09
k1lsince he talked around it he did get the package from the nvidia site i think10:10
stonneriptable, download nvidia driver from nvidia website, give executable permissions, terminate lightdm, and isntall nvidia driver from command line10:10
iptablek1l, he also said "I tried the package as well". HOW? apt-get/the GUI provided, or hat10:10
iptablestonner, the nvidia driver for the website is unpatched and will not work10:10
iptablestonner, what you should have done was you should have used the provided drivers GUI in the OS. but if you insist on using the ocmmand line, 1. do NOT blacklist nouveau, no need. 2, execute this:10:11
iptablestonner, 1. apt-get install linux-headers, 2. apt-get install build-essential, 3. apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-331-updates-uvm nvidia-libopencl1-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings10:11
iptablestonner, it is because the driver needs to compile a module for the kernel, you need build-essential and linux-headers10:12
stonneriptable, i have build-essential a linux-headers installed10:12
rainbowwarrioriptable : same error10:13
iptablestonner, so now install the nvidia packages as I asked. if you can, uninstall beforehand10:13
iptablestonner, uninstall what you have already instaleld that it.10:13
iptablestonner, if you had installed from packages form start up, it probably would have worked for you ... hence it's in the repo. also, are you running hybrid graphics?10:13
stonneriptable, no, just one vga10:14
votzHow can a VM that mounts an NFS export served by its host (mount <host interface>:/export) migrate to another host and mount/remount the new host's NFS share at the same address and path (mount <same host interface:/export) without interruption?10:14
iptablerainbowwarrior, http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/10:14
iptablerainbowwarrior, full instruction step by step. just use trusty instead of jaunty10:14
rainbowwarrioriptable : ok thank you10:14
stonneriptable, i always installed from nvidia website and never had problem until now10:14
iptablestonner, I used to do that until I found that nvidia drivers don't work well (and sometimes at all) on ubuntu. hence the patched version in the repos10:15
sagar__hi budyys10:15
iptablestonner, use the repos. they are there for a reason. e.g. if nvidia provides a driver that doesn't work.10:15
sky_manhi folks10:15
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iptablerainbowwarrior, ins short, mkdir /mnt/sys01; debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/sys01 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu10:16
iptablerainbowwarrior, that should work for you10:16
stonneriptable, ok thank you10:16
iptablerainbowwarrior, all as root10:16
stonneriptable, i will try10:17
* ObrienDave nap time. l8rs10:17
rainbowwarrioriptable : Thank You that worked , I am sorry for being a pain10:18
penosjust use windows firewall10:18
iptablerainbowwarrior, no, you just overcomplicated your life and your commands. first thing, avoid spaces if you can. second, follow my tutorial10:18
cynicallemonrainbowwarrior: debootstrap saves the day again10:18
rainbowwarrioriptable : ok thank you :o)10:19
rainbowwarriorcynicallemon : yep10:19
iptablerainbowwarrior, my tutorial also covers some basic mounts, like proc and sys. you might want to add dev to the list too10:19
penoswindows security essentials10:19
cfhowlettpenos, channel check?10:20
rainbowwarrioriptable : ok thank you10:20
cynicallemonpenos: mutually exclusive terms there10:20
clonehKeyboard layout changes randomly. What can I do? In the text input settings exists only one language.10:20
clonehI think there is a shortcut that isn't related to the text input settings.10:21
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ExtremeDerpAndSoOk i re-installed ubuntu10:22
ExtremeDerpAndSoSame problem, It booted into windows10:23
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, did you play with "where to install grub" or left it as default?10:23
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, grub should have installed to /dev/sda10:23
ExtremeDerpAndSoI left is as default10:24
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, if so, then windows and/or BIOS have UEFI boot security enabled, hence you cannot write grub to /dev/sda and install fails (pretend success of UEFI)10:24
ExtremeDerpAndSoI killed secure boot in BIOS10:24
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, 10/10 it's not enabled .-.10:24
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, well, appears some security setting is amis. ubuntu still failed to write to /dev/sda and thought it succeeded10:25
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, So what can i do .-.10:25
Vladimir_iptable: is it possible to initiate the expect script after i logged in with ssh user@host ?10:26
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, DID you 1. remove battery (if laptop) and power supply cable from your computer and press power button once? you shoudl have. then insert battery and power cable, boot and boot straight into installer. if you fail to get to installer, repeat. that usually opens the security up.10:26
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, if not, then comb through BIOS. If you cannot find the right setting, you are most likely stuffed as you purchased a windows-only-hahaha-laptop.10:26
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, although that's unlikely. usually yhere is a way10:26
ExtremeDerpAndSoiptable, My laptop's battery's unremoveable10:26
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, ugh, ok. good luck. comb through BIOS. SOMETHING is stopping ubuntu from writing to UEFI10:27
iptableVladimir_, why would you need to do that?10:27
iptableVladimir_, ssh user@host "commands-go-here"10:27
iptableVladimir_, or better, put your commands in a simple script on remote host and then ssh user@host "/path/to/your/script"10:28
clonehExtremeDerpAndSo, I joined the conversation just a few seconds ago. Did you bootet from the USB stick in UEFI mode?10:28
iptableVladimir_, forget expect, please!10:28
ExtremeDerpAndSocloneh, Yeah10:28
Vladimir_iptable: it's just that I've already done a big expect script :/10:29
clonehExtremeDerpAndSo, and can you check if the installation of Ubuntu has succeded? The Ubuntu partition exists?10:29
Vladimir_which does all the neccessary commands10:29
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ExtremeDerpAndSocloneh, It does10:29
lacopHi, I need some help with updating my kernel...10:29
esseksHi guys! Suppose I have an existing LUKS+LVM layout on a UEFI machine. I would like to install Ubuntu in a lv I created for this purpose, let it mount my preexisting /home and and use kernel stub (no GRUB). I could work my way with old alternate (Debian style) installer, but now, how do I do that?10:29
penoslacop just do ot10:30
penosit10:30
lacopNeed 3.13.0-35 for the nvidia drivers it seems, now on -32, I've downloaded linux-image-..-generic, image-extra and image-headers10:30
penos?10:30
theadminesseks: The minimal CD has a text installer. You can then pull in ubuntu-desktop using APT10:30
lacopran update-grub and it shows up in /boot/grub/grub.cfg10:30
iptableVladimir_, and now redo it pproperly, it is a copy-paste job most of the way10:30
lacopbut not in the boot menu10:30
theadmin!minimal10:30
Vladimir_iptable: thou after the ssh-copy-id login it keeps asking me about the password10:30
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:30
iptableVladimir_, ssh-copy-id copied your key over?10:30
Vladimir_yes10:30
theadminesseks: The text installer is basically the same as the Debian one, except blue is replaced with purple10:31
ruffalogauf/leav/leave10:31
Vladimir_It succeded10:31
iptableVladimir_, so if you ssh to the user@host yhat you did ssh-copy-id to, it should no longer ask for password10:31
clonehExtremeDerpAndSo, you can try boot repair. It's an Ubuntu tool to fix the most common boot issues. Just boot from your Ubuntu USB stick, install boot repair and click "Recommended repair". https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair10:31
penos!ubuntu10:31
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com10:31
lacopThe grub menu is still the same, showing only -32, I've tried editing the boot params from there and replaced 32 with 35, but it just went black and rebooted back to bios after a second10:31
ddvlacop: how did you install the kernel/10:31
iptableVladimir_, unless some idiot disabled the only most useful features in ssh10:31
lacopddv: apt-get install linux-image-...-generic, image-extra, headers10:31
lacopthen update-grub10:31
ExtremeDerpAndSoI hate grub and UEFI along with Windows 8.1 and secure boot .-.10:31
Vladimir_iptable: is it in the sshd config file?10:31
Vladimir_I'll check10:32
penos!linux10:32
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux10:32
ddvlacop: update-grub is automatically called if you install a kernel10:32
lacopBut /boot/grub/grub.cfg is fine, however when I reboot I still see the old stuff10:32
iptableVladimir_, yes. KeyBasedAuth or something along those lines10:32
penos!unintu10:32
penos!ubuntu10:32
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com10:32
lacopwhen I go to the other ubuntu submenu or what it's called there is only the -32 kernel, not the 3510:32
lacopI got 32, 33, 34 and 35 in /boot so not sure what's going on10:32
ddvlacop: I think it will remember 5 old kernels10:33
ddvor something like that10:33
ddvlacop: your new kernel is not in the list?10:33
lacopno, just the 3210:33
lacopthe grub menu is not responding to the config for some reason10:33
lacopI can see all the new ones in grub.cfg, grub-customizer also shows them10:34
penosuse HURD10:34
cfhowlett!behelpful | penos,10:34
ubottupenos,: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.10:34
ddvpenos: maybe in 20 years when it reaches the maturity of the linux kernel10:34
lacopddv: any idea how to debug the grub menu?10:36
ddvlacop: no idea, maybe you should reinstall grub to your drive10:36
lacopbut I don't think the grub menu is the sole issue, as I said...10:36
lacopwhen I select the old -32 kernel menu entry and modify it to 35 and boot, it just crashes10:36
essekstheadmin, thanks! Unfortunately, it seems that the mini CD cannot boot in UEFI mode. I would rather avoid the BIOS-to-UEFI path :(10:37
ech0s7where i can get info(how-to) to setup a process at boot ?10:37
theadminesseks: Ah... yeah, I can see how that is a problem :/10:37
theadminesseks: Does the DVD have a text install? I think it used to, but I dunno if it does now. Try holding Shift during boot and see10:37
ExtremeDerpAndSoOk so..10:38
theadminesseks: (left shift, that is)10:38
ExtremeDerpAndSoI disabled UEFI completely10:38
user123321kernel log got overloaded by around 30 MB with things like "FAT-fs (sdb1): error, invalid access to FAT (entry 0x61202073)" o.O10:38
ExtremeDerpAndSoAnd chose legacy10:38
ExtremeDerpAndSoIt boots straight to ubuntu, No grub10:38
ExtremeDerpAndSojust like the previous installation10:38
clonehExtremeDerpAndSo, did you tried boot repair?10:39
ExtremeDerpAndSoThat broke ubuntu completely last time10:39
iptableExtremeDerpAndSo, it DOES have grub, it's just that grub is configured with hidden-boot-menu10:40
esseksExtremeDerpAndSo, maybe GRUB what-to-boot menu has a timeout set to 0 (and possibly, mode set to hidden)10:40
ExtremeDerpAndSoSo.. How can i fix that?10:40
penosinstall slackware10:40
ExtremeDerpAndSo.-.10:40
cfhowlettpenos, upi10:41
esseksEdit the respective variables in /etc/default/grub . Maybe paste it somewhere for us to check before editing.10:41
esseks_before_ ;)10:41
ExtremeDerpAndSoimma use pastebin10:42
user123321Machine got frozen again during boot with nothing on screen. Kernel log from the start of boot to the emergency restart: http://pastebin.com/A5V8yWjS10:42
user123321Any ideas? Thanks :)10:42
ExtremeDerpAndSohttp://pastebin.com/GcrEb1Wt10:43
NicksCodehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8222583/ .... uhh how is that possible? The first update was done from the software updater and the second from the command line10:43
esseksExtremeDerpAndSo, set `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3` and `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false`. Then run `sudo update-grub`.10:44
Vladimir_iptable: doesn't seem to work10:45
sky_manhi10:45
iptableVladimir_, WHAT doesn't seem to work?10:45
Vladimir_iptable: I found PermitEmptyPasswords and changed it to "yes"10:45
rainbowwarriorhmm for a new I7 quad core laptop and an 80 MB internet connection it sure is being slow and still unpacking packages lol10:45
Vladimir_and still it asks me for password10:45
ExtremeDerpAndSoTells me i can't edit cause i am not root, Esseks10:45
rainbowwarriorand 8GB of memory10:45
kagamiwasedahi10:45
ExtremeDerpAndSoimma try nano10:45
rainbowwarriorhello kagamiwaseda10:46
ExtremeDerpAndSoesseks , Now i reboot in UEFI or legacy?10:48
Vladimir_iptable: Thing is, maybe there's configuration on the switch to allow passwordless access..10:48
iptableVladimir_, switch? what's switch got to do with server and client?10:49
iptableVladimir_, NOT permit empty passwords, do not allow it!10:49
iptableVladimir_, it's these: RSAAuthentication yes10:49
iptablePubkeyAuthentication yes10:49
Vladimir_iptable: okey, but can't find any KeyBasedAuth config10:49
iptableVladimir_, it's these: RSAAuthentication yes and PubkeyAuthentication yes10:50
iptableVladimir_, PLEASE! read, not guess.10:50
user123321Ok, I'm going to reboot and run a memtest, brb10:50
Vladimir_iptable: they're already "yes"10:50
iptableVladimir_, so key based authentication is enabled and if you put you key (using ssh-copy-id or another method) from client to server authorized_keys it will work10:51
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Vladimir_iptable: it's not a server it's a network device, a switch that ssh to10:51
iptableVladimir_, it is the basic easiest task. Make sure you run it on CLIENT. You need to copy key from the client that will do the ssh to the server that will accept the connection. so ssh-copy-id should be run on client.10:51
Vladimir_oh oke310:52
iptable:/10:52
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Vladimir_iptable: oh I didn't understand that it should be on the client10:52
odinhi, I have a problem with UBUNTU not booting. The motherboard gets past boot and even past GRUB, but at some point through the boot process it just hangs10:53
odinthen eventually restarts, what could this be?10:53
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rainbowwarriorhmm10:54
ExtremeDerpAndSoBooting in legacy, I got a black screen with a blinking " _ " on the top left of my screen, When i pressed enter, I was taken to ubuntu10:55
ExtremeDerpAndSoIn UEFI, Straight to windows10:55
user123321back10:55
knightshadeHi10:56
ExtremeDerpAndSoAre lenovo laptops famous for trouble with linux?10:57
rainbowwarrioriptable : how long does it take for debootstrap to unacpack required packages please ?10:58
rainbowwarriorunpack *10:58
ExtremeDerpAndSorainbowwarrior , Idk about that debootstrap, But if it's unpacking as in extracting, That depends on your PC specs10:59
ExtremeDerpAndSoIf it's downloading, That depends on your interderps speed11:00
knightshadeInterderp?11:00
ExtremeDerpAndSoInternet*11:00
Vladimir_iptable: can I have multiple public keys in the /etc/ssh/ folder? How will it know which one to use? When accessing the client?11:03
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rainbowwarriorExtremeDerpAndSo : My laptop is an Acer Aspire V5 571P With an intel I7-3537U CPU and 8GB memory , Intel VGA compatible controller (can't remember exactly what ) and 80 MB broadband connection11:05
ExtremeDerpAndSorainbowwarrior , It should be over soon then i guess ;p11:07
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rainbowwarriorExtremeDerpAndSo : lol , Merry Christmas :P11:09
ExtremeDerpAndSo;P;11:09
ddvrainbowwarrior: acer is pretty crappy11:09
rainbowwarriorwell I am stuck with it now as I got rid of horrible windows 8 and its evil charms etc11:11
ExtremeDerpAndSoddv , My previous acer laptop had no problems taking dual boot xD11:11
rainbowwarrioras i bought it in october last year11:11
SimonJaiwhat could cause GRUB to break after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 by running "do-release-upgrade" ?11:11
ddvnot sure why you would want to dual boot anyways, it's only annoying11:11
blinky_ghostt11:11
iptableVladimir_, it will try roundrobin11:12
ExtremeDerpAndSoddv, I still need windows for windows only applications11:12
ExtremeDerpAndSoLike Spice11:12
ExtremeDerpAndSoWhich is a circuit simulator .-.11:12
iptableVladimir_, or you can give ssh an option parameter. man ssh to find out.11:12
rainbowwarriorExtremeDerpAndSo : well just done a speed test and my download speed is 19.33 MBPS and upload speed is 12.26 MBPS11:12
ddvEtry a vm11:12
iptablerainbowwarrior, how long? between 10 minutes and 2 hours. depends on network speed and computer speed.11:13
TurkerTunalihello,11:18
TurkerTunaliI have a installation problem11:18
TurkerTunalihttp://pastebin.com/gK0xBUPN11:18
TurkerTunalican you check it?11:18
TurkerTunaliI may paste it here if you prefer11:18
ikoniaTurkerTunali: my first thought is your install media is broken11:19
ikoniait's complaining of concatinated data11:19
TurkerTunaliikonia: I've already used that usb before and "Check disc for defects" not found any error11:20
ikoniaTurkerTunali: that doesn't mean it's sane11:20
ikoniaTurkerTunali: is it a liveusb ?11:21
tarelerulzCan any of you watched blue ray dvd Ubuntu?11:21
ikoniatarelerulz: yes, but it was a lot of effort due to the license of the software11:21
Vladimir_iptable: by the way, I got a really good tip for the timestamp issue, I can just do:  < find /katalog/i/ditt/filträd -cmin 10 -exec mv {} {}$(date "+%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M") >  inside of a while loop =)11:21
TurkerTunaliikonia: yes it is live11:21
ikoniaTurkerTunali: can you boot it at all11:22
TurkerTunaliI can't boot11:22
TurkerTunalitry ubuntu and Install ubuntu fails the same way11:22
Vladimir_iptable: /katalog/i/ditt/filträd  being the directory you need to check11:22
tarelerulzVladimir_:  Have you ever watched a blue ray?11:22
ExtremeDerpAndSoCats are not happy after a bath.11:23
Vladimir_tarelerulz: once or twice11:23
ikoniatarelerulz: please don't just ask random people11:23
ikoniaExtremeDerpAndSo: wrong channel, not here please.11:23
backupneededHi everyone, i want to do a backup to an external harddrive, over the commandline interface, but i want to be able to access the backups also on windows plattform (best with gui for standard users), is there a backup tools that i could use on ubuntu commandline to create backups and a compatible gui tool on windows to access the backups data files?11:23
TurkerTunaliikonia: there are some more errors at the begining, such as no media found and etc11:24
TurkerTunaliikonia: i may give detail11:24
rainbowwarrioriptable :ok thank you11:24
TurkerTunalii can boot to win711:24
ikoniabenterprise tools such as legato work11:24
hateballbackupneeded: define "backup". is it copying files? compressing entire partitions? etc11:24
ikoniaTurkerTunali: that sounds like your install media is not good11:25
rainbowwarriorOmg11:26
tarelerulzI have read on playing on blue rays and I have yet to find a guide if you will .   All the stuff tell you you need these file ,but never where to find them or even what to do with the files once you do .  I'm not asking random quotations , I was trying to see if any of you do watch blue ray .  I wanted to know what you did to make work11:26
TurkerTunaliikonia:should I download it again?11:26
ikoniaTurkerTunali: I'd certainly try re-creating the install media11:26
TurkerTunaliok11:26
backupneededhateball: there a serveral files within folders on a harddrive, it will be good if the backup is compressed somehow and if the backup should do full backups and backups from changed files only, too11:27
TurkerTunaliikonia: I have used Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.5.exe before and now I am creating media as before, thank you11:28
ikoniaTurkerTunali: I've not used that tool, so can't comment11:28
rainbowwarriorI just done a check for interference in my neighbourhood and it says " Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm " and " Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s "11:28
TurkerTunaliikonia: you may right. windows says that usb should be scanned for errrors11:29
cfhowlettTurkerTunali, windows says that when it sees ubuntu ...11:29
iptableVladimir_, the while loop thing sounds like a very bad workaround, together with find files created max 10 minutes ago trhing...11:30
iptablebut ok11:30
iptablewhatever works for you...11:30
TurkerTunalicfhowlett: no it doesn't say that before11:31
Vladimir_Well hopefully it works=) iptable11:31
Yukizthere is a moderator ?11:31
ikoniaYukiz: what's up ?11:31
Yukizhere ?11:31
cfhowlettYukiz, ask your ubuntu questions11:32
Yukizthere is a moderator here ?11:33
Vladimir_iptable: about the ssh, I did send the key to the ssh server, and the key is inside the /etc/ssh/ folder but still it asks for the password, it doesn't seem like it's even finds any key but I don't know11:34
EriC^^Vladimir_: you can use ssh -v (or -vv, -vvv) for more info11:35
Vladimir_EriC^^: ok11:35
Vladimir_EriC^^: Well, it doesn't say much, just Authentication succeeded (password).11:36
Vladimir_it doesn't say anything about the public key o any key at all11:37
EriC^^Vladimir_: did you try -vvv ?11:37
EriC^^should mention searching for stuff11:37
iptableVladimir_, why do you ssh to a switch anyways?11:38
davecap99hey guys I'm new here, just saying hello11:38
Vladimir_I have to ssh to the switch to be able to backup the configuration, I know there's some way to get the config via scp  but I just do it with the expect script for now11:40
Vladimir_iptable:11:40
Vladimir_iptable: we are changing from telnet to ssh11:40
iptableVladimir_, nevermind, I don't want to know. Do you even have a pubkey? I have a feeling it didn't copy as it doesn't exist.11:40
iptableVladimir_, ssh-genkey?11:40
Vladimir_iptable: it did copy,11:40
ikoniawhy are we supporting network switch backups11:41
ikoniathis has been going on for 5 days now11:41
iptableare you using ssh to same USER as you copied key to?11:41
rainbowwarrioriptable : I just done a check for interference in my neighbourhood and it says " Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm " and " Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s "  and I have an Acer aspire v5 571p with 8gb Memory and an I7 CPU and 80mb internet connection ( current download speed 19mbps )11:41
ikoniaI think we are getting beyond the scope of ubuntu here11:41
iptablerainbowwarrior, why you telling me?11:41
Vladimir_I created a key on the switch and I sent to with tftp to the server iptable11:41
iptableVladimir_, wait, you are ssh'ing from switch to server?11:41
Vladimir_iptable: no, I sent with tftp method11:42
iptable...11:42
ikoniaVladimir_: this is making no sense11:42
ikoniaVladimir_: I've watched you do this for 5 days now11:42
rainbowwarrioriptable : oh sorry , I think it is my network running slow and that why it is still unpacking the packages11:42
iptableVladimir_, plain English, if you are trying to ssh from server to switch, first ssh-genkey ON SERVER, then ssh-copy-id user@switch ON SERVER. This will copy key from server to switch11:42
ikoniaVladimir_: what part of the solution is ubuntu releated to ?11:42
ikoniaiptable: it's a procurve - iit won't work like that11:43
iptableoh, procurve...11:43
Vladimir_iptable: but that's the way I did it in the first place as you told me, but later you said that I should copy key from Client TO server :/ and that's what I've done now11:43
ikoniaVladimir_: this is a Procurve switch isn't it (?)11:43
Vladimir_ikonia: yeah procurve11:43
ikoniaiptable: ok - so this is just all not going to work11:43
iptableVladimir_, https://blog.espci.fr/jpuig/2011/07/21/public-key-only-ssh-access-to-procurve-2510g-tested-on-2510g-24-software-y-11-12-rom-n-10-02/11:43
iptableikonia, it will, it just requires stupid commands to enable it11:44
ikoniaVladimir_: what part of this solution do you need help with ubuntu from11:44
ikoniaiptable: sure - but for #ubuntu11:44
oksefarshey all i'm using ubuntu 12.04x64 on a server and suddenly the server has stopped booting and grub gives me an error 15 file not found, does anybody know what this is about?11:44
iptableVladimir_, do you know what client and server is? you obviously don't. copy from client to server MEANS copy from machine you are ssh'ing to the machine you are ssh'ing TO11:44
ikoniaI've watched blind configuration of this switch for 5 days now. We are well outside what #ubuntu is supposed to be used for11:44
iptableVladimir_, client-server. standard IT terms. Ok, enough11:44
TurkerTunaliikonia: you were right, it is working now11:45
ikoniaTurkerTunali: great news11:45
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cfhowlett!cookie | ikonia,11:46
ubottuikonia,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!11:46
rainbowwarriorExtremeDerpAndSo : Happy New Year lol , i must have the worlds slowest network11:47
iptablerainbowwarrior, it does take time. but once you are done, then umount the proc, dev, sysfs and cp -a /mnt/sys01 /mnt/sys02. Then you will have a quickly made duplicate and 2 systems to play with11:48
iptablerainbowwarrior, I usually keep one of them as a template to copy from11:49
iptablerainbowwarrior, forgot to ask you, what host are you using? also, what is the purpose of debootstrap in your case?11:49
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Vladimir_iptable: well it doesn't seem to get passwordless working, because it works if I turn off RADIUS login on the switch but we all use RADIUS login here, so :..:/11:51
ikoniaVladimir_: stop for a moment11:52
ikoniaVladimir_: what part of this do you need ubuntu help with ?11:52
Vladimir_ikonia: I try to get passwordless ssh login to work from my ubuntu server to the switch11:52
iptableVladimir_, unless it's a ubuntu-specific problem I suggest you speak either on ##networking or ##linux. This is not an ubuntu issue but the issue with your network, logins and switch11:52
rainbowwarrioriptable : Ok Thank you , I am with Sky broadband , I am using debootstrap so I can hopefully get into Ubuntu and try and get 14.04 to work with my Aoc monitor as 13.10 does not seem to like it and it hangs at log-in and can not login via terminal or gui login screen11:52
Vladimir_ikonia: sorry, this seems like an issue for both ubuntu and switch :/11:53
ikoniaVladimir_: what part of it is an ubuntu issue ?11:53
Vladimir_iptable: no worries11:53
iptablerainbowwarrior, GUI in debootstrap? that's not going to go down too well11:53
Vladimir_ikonia: ssh login, I was recommended to use ssh passwordless login instead of expect script11:54
ikoniaVladimir_: you're not logging into the ubuntu machine though11:54
Vladimir_ikonia: anyhow don't worry, I'll figure this out11:54
ikoniaVladimir_: ubuntu is only the client11:54
ikoniaVladimir_: I think we need to stop supporting your switch ocnfig/setup here11:54
iptableVladimir_, refer to your networks team and authentication team. also refer to your radius team. also refer to switch manual.11:54
Vladimir_yeah no probs=)11:54
Vladimir_thanks11:55
iptablerainbowwarrior, I would suggest instead you try it with a live USB stick11:55
Nagendrahi11:55
nozenHey guys. One of the mirrors I use contains some packages that are also on the official trusty mirror, the packages on the third party mirror are of the same version but an older build. Is there a way to tell apt to prefer packages from the third party repository even though they are older ?11:56
iptablerainbowwarrior, or at least install ubuntu onto a USB drive and boot from that11:56
iptablerainbowwarrior, GUI from debootstrap can be SO flakey due to the /proc and /dev and /sys you are running belonging to the host (and a few other libc dependencies that are involved onthe host)11:57
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oksefarshey i am running ubuntu on a server and it seems like grub.cfg has been overwritten11:57
rainbowwarrioriptable : Ahh ok thank you11:57
iptablerainbowwarrior, although "monitor" issue oculd be a graphic card issue instead. more than happy to have a look once you boot from something into 14.0411:58
rainbowwarrioriptable : ok thank you very much , it is much appreciated and your time11:59
iptableno problem11:59
Elionhello, i'm trying to run a script when a bluetooth device connect, how can i tell udev to run the script12:01
rainbowwarriori like fat woman12:05
dmattnozen: configure apt via /etc/apt/preferences i just read documentation, but never used it myself12:06
rainbowwarriorsorry about that my brother typed that in while i went away for a minute12:06
SimonJai_I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 LTS, after install I rebooted and it went straight into Grub console12:07
rainbowwarrioriptable : did you mean like a USB flash drive or USB hard drive ?12:07
SimonJai_any ideas?12:07
riotahoy. So, network manager only places additional dns servers into resolv.conf that it can reach, yes? why? how can i give it one it should ALWAYS enter..?12:07
riotgetting classic config based openvpn to work with NM is PITA deluxe.12:08
EriC^^SimonJai_: try to reinstall grub, update-grub12:08
iptablerainbowwarrior, any12:08
SimonJai_i can't get back into the OS?12:08
iptablerainbowwarrior, although USB hard drive WILL be much faster than flash drive12:08
EriC^^SimonJai_: you probably can, but if you have a live usb would be easy12:08
rainbowwarrioriptable : ok thank you12:09
iptablerainbowwarrior, your brother is in his "time to grow up" age I see12:09
SimonJai_oh wow12:09
SimonJai_i managed to boot into the OS12:09
SimonJai_lol12:09
rainbowwarrioriptable : yep12:09
SimonJai_EriC^^: do i reinstall grub on the root partition?12:09
EriC^^SimonJai_: on the disk12:09
SimonJai_the whole disk?12:09
SimonJai_mmmmm12:10
EriC^^yeah12:10
riotand why is network manager adding 127.0.1.1 to my resolv.conf? is it drunk?12:10
SimonJai_as in update-grub /dev/sda ???12:10
EriC^^if that's your disk yeah12:10
SimonJai_yep it is12:10
SimonJai_alright i'll give that a go, thanks12:10
EriC^^np12:10
* SimonJai_ hopes it works12:10
SimonJai_EriC^^: update-grub or update-grub2 ??12:13
EriC^^update-grub , same i think12:13
mreggHi all - Anybody knows whether the AST2300 graphics chip is compatible with Ubuntu 14.04? Thanks.12:14
qwerkushello12:15
rainbowwarrioriptable : Ok I will be back soon , going to buy a usb drive :o)12:15
ikoniamregg: is that the onboard arm one ?12:16
qwerkusI get random complete freeze of my desktop (not even tty fallback possible) under ubuntu 14.04 using nvidia 340 drivers. Could somehow help me find out what exactly the problem is ?12:16
mreggikonia: onboard a C224-based mobo, am currently building a server.12:17
ikoniamregg: who makes that chip (sorry I thought it was an arm one)12:17
mreggikonia: Aspeed12:17
ikoniamregg: that's a remote access card12:18
ikoniamregg: not a graphics card12:18
mreggikonia: no no, it's the integrated graphics card. Am looking at the Gigabyte GA-LXSV, that's what it says.12:18
vakhi all12:19
ikoniamregg: then "no" it won't have good X support12:19
ikoniamregg: although if it's a server, all you need is the tty console ?12:19
iptablerainbowwarrior, that's what I like in people from UK, we just go and buy the stuff :P12:19
rioti have to say, ubuntu's way of doing network is really very scary, sinister and unnecessarily complex.12:19
mreggikonia: no, I want to be able to freenx or x2go to the server12:19
vaki use  "apt-get source --compile" to compile a huge package. Is it possible to pass "-j N" option to the make utility?12:20
trexxI'm getting this error "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory" any solution ?12:20
ikoniamregg: I wouldn't advise that then12:20
ikoniatrexx: impossible to help with that little info12:20
trexxikonia: wheneva i'm using "sudo" command the error will be shown.12:22
kudakwasheis unity a window manager?12:22
kudakwashecan you call unity a window manager?12:22
EriC^^no, unity is a de12:23
kudakwasheor does it uses metacity?12:23
EriC^^compiz is the window mananger12:23
ikoniatrexx: so id you do "sudo ls" do you get that error ?12:23
kudakwashecompiz, not metacity, by default in 14.04?12:23
kudakwasheEriC^^: ?12:23
EriC^^kudakwashe: unity is a desktop environment, compiz is the window manager it uses12:24
kudakwasheEriC^^: thanks12:24
trexxI've solve it at my own.12:24
EriC^^np12:24
trexxikonia: libpass-samba package was created problem.12:25
ikoniagreat12:25
rturdmatt: (I'm nozen) Yes, I did that. Doesn't show any effect though. Here is my preference file http://paste.ubuntu.com/8223155/12:25
dmattrtur: you must run apt-get update before it is taken into account12:26
dmattrtur: apt-cache policy name_of_the_package to investigate how it affected chosen package12:27
rturdmatt: I know, I did. But apt-cache policy package-name still shows the ubuntu mirror as origin.12:28
blackangelprSalute to all :)12:31
ZiberI'm trying to understand how logrotate works. I have http://pastebin.com/kSVmGb9r in my logrotate.d file, but the actual behavior of this (http://pastebin.com/M3XDN48K) is not what I want. What I want it to do is to keep 30 days of the log files, rotating it once per day, appending -YYYYMMDD to the old file. I don't know why it's doing -YYYYMMDD-YYYYMMDD, etc.12:36
lyzggmn m12:40
iptableZiber, I know ;) you are rotating the rotated logs already12:40
iptableZiber, /root/scripts/log/snap* will capture already rotated logs and rotate them again12:40
rturdmatt: Oh, forget it. It was just me being dumb, apt works. Thanks.12:41
iptableZiber, replace with definite value which does not capture rotated log filenames as well, e.g. /root/scripts/log/snap_expire.log, without the star12:41
dmattrtur: glad you resolved it12:42
adantehi, i have run this command: DISPLAY=:0 gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false12:48
adantenothing has happened - how can i check if it has applied?12:48
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Azitrexi installed ubuntu but i dont see where is terminal ?12:51
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Azitrexubunut 1412:51
iptableadante, well, if it didn't complain then it probably worked. although gsettings have a get option to see the settings12:52
iptableadante, man gsettings said so12:52
SimonJai_"grub-install: warning: this msdos-style partition label has no post-MBR gap; embedding won't be possible."12:52
SimonJai_uhhhhh what to do?12:52
iptableadante, as per the gsettings manual, line number 3: DISPLAY=:0 gsettings get org.gnome.Vino require-encryption12:52
dav1dp0101Does anyone have a good suggestion for making regular scheduled dumps of my entire system image via the dump command on crontab?12:53
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adanteiptable: thanks!12:54
iptabledav1dp0101, yes, don't do it12:57
iptabledav1dp0101, it is an ext2 dump/restore. their manuals and docs don't state that it can even do ext3/4 or other filesystems. use a proper backup solution or your own one12:58
dav1dp0101iptable: thanks. What about the dd command?12:59
iptabledav1dp0101, typically, I would suggest you dump the MBR using dd and either in offline mode dump partitions OR in online mode use rsync (or equivalent) or tar12:59
iptabledav1dp0101, dd in online mode can result in a corrupt filesystem backup. dd in offline mode won't. I suggest dd only MBR (can be done at any time) and rsync/tar if online. if offline mode (i.e. system unmounted), you can use dd13:00
dav1dp0101iptable: what do you mean: dd only MBR?13:00
cfhowlettiptable, "online" = mounted or actually on internet.  I don't understand why?13:01
iptabledav1dp0101, if ytou plan on restoring to another HDD, you will need the MBR to boot13:01
iptablecfhowlett, online = mounted. offline = unmounted13:01
iptablecfhowlett, if you dd a drive that is mounted, file change written to fs and at the moment of dd may differ.13:01
iptabledav1dp0101, MBR has the code to actually boot your OS. alternatively, your recovery procedure could be 1. boot from livecd 2. partition drive, 3. recover backup, 4. while still in liveCD, chroot to recovered partition nad run grub-install /dev/sda. this would work and no dd backup of MBR required13:02
iptabledav1dp0101, that would actually be preferred unless you know what you are doing with MBRs13:02
iptabledav1dp0101, on backup methods and software to choose from, why not have a look at ubuntu community documentation? very good it is. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem13:03
dav1dp0101iptable: My server is always online and mounted, so i have to come up with a solution that works in that environment. I want more than one backup/restore procedure. I have a 500MB mounted hard drive, and a 1 TB external hard drive partitioned into two. I'm already using rsync to backup the files onto an external partition. I wanted to use the other partition for system images. hence dump (or dd). I've looked at the link you menti13:04
dav1dp0101oned above, which suggested using dump for raw backups.13:04
iptabledav1dp0101, I use btrfs filesystem instead of ext3/4 and perform backups by first making a snapshot and then I rsync the snapshot over to the remote machine which also has btrfs and root filesystem. recovery is as simple as restoring snapshot on backup machine13:04
dav1dp0101iptable how do you make snapshots?13:05
iptabledav1dp0101, only if you use ext2...13:05
iptabledav1dp0101, on btrfs filesystem, I type in btrfs snapshot create /13:05
iptabledav1dp0101, LVM also supports snapshots13:05
iptabledav1dp0101, although, if you rsync the whole system, why would you want a raw image?13:05
TotsIn xubuntu, where's the startup file where I can execute commands upon startup?13:05
iptabledav1dp0101, restore to new drive partition and run grub-install and you are back online13:06
Totsunless after configuring x11vnc, it's handled automatically13:06
iptableTots, upon startup of system, GUI or upon login to GUI?13:06
TotsPreferably startup of GUI without logging in13:06
dav1dp0101iptable: i'm using rsync on the root folder. i want a raw image as an alternative method of backing up. Two backups is safer than one.13:06
iptableTots, startup of actual system, before GUI boots is either /etc/init/* or /etc/init.d/* (both work, pick one).13:06
TotsThank you much :)13:07
iptableTots, that needs the correct format of a script though, look at what is there already13:07
iptabledav1dp0101, raw image is not a safe method. just rsync to 2 locations13:07
iptabledav1dp0101, if you want a raw image you HAVE TO take your system offline13:08
ValdikSSHello. I have a strange problem with my keyboard. I have Logitech K200 USB keyboard, and multimedia keys are working with some kind of delay. I can't press, for example, volume down 5 times a second, it simply won't work. Everything is fine in Windows.13:08
ValdikSSevdev detects my keyboard as 2 separate keyboards. One is "usual" keyboard and another one is with multimedia keys only.13:08
ValdikSS"high-level" utilites like xev and showkey doesn't detect all the keypresses, even evtest, which works on device level (/dev/input/event*) doesn't detect it. What should I do?13:08
Totscan I modify rc.local in init.d with the line I want to add?13:08
iptableTots, apparently yes :)13:09
TotsIt'd just be a simple: x11vnc -safe -forever13:09
dav1dp0101iptable: oh, I see. I'm using ext4, so can I run the snapshot create command you mentioned above?13:09
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iptableTots, can x11vnc start before the GUI loads? if so, then yes. put it in rc.local13:09
iptableTots, otherwise, you would need something much more intelligent13:09
iptabledav1dp0101, no. that's btrfs only.13:10
iptabledav1dp0101, if you have LVM, then that support snapshots too, although I don't know how well you can backup those13:10
iptabledav1dp0101, but scrap that. use rsync and liveUSB to recover. boot from liveUSB, mount the partition to which you recover, chroot to it, grub-install to the MBR you are done!13:11
iptabledav1dp0101, and you should at least be using raid113:11
chamohi all13:11
Doctor_Nickoh no13:12
Doctor_Nickborderlands twooo13:12
cfhowlettDoctor_Nick, ask your ubuntu questions13:12
Doctor_Nickis the plural of ubuntu ubuntus13:13
dav1dp0101iptable: no i didn't install LVM. I had the option to, but I thought it would be unnecessarily complicated. ok, i see your suggestion is sound. So in your recovery scenario, am I copying my backed up root folder to the internal hard drive? That's what I want to do. If it was corrupt, I would format the hard drive, run a fresh install of the OS, and the copy the backed up root folder into the new root folder.13:14
cfhowlettDoctor_Nick, good question for #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please discuss there.13:14
dav1dp0101I didn't use RAID1. My hard drive is only 500MB. If I used RAID1, would that reduce my hard drive space by half?13:14
ikoniado you mean 500GB?13:15
TotsThat's not working >.<13:15
dav1dp0101Yeah, iptable & ikonia, i meant 500MB hard drive.13:15
ikoniaraid is between 2 devices, so it won't reduce your hard drive space, it will just waste the second disk as a mirror13:15
TotsI'm trying to use x11vnc and I set a password, then I'm trying to run it just in terminal and it's not holding13:15
dav1dp0101iptable, ikonia, 500GB.13:15
ikoniaso the second disk won't have usable space13:15
Totsbut now, I can't even get into it via VNC for some reason, port forwarding isn't an issue13:16
dav1dp0101ikonia: can I run RAID1 on an external hard drive?13:16
iptabledav1dp0101, to use raid1, you need 2 drives. and both act as a single drive, having copy of data between each other13:16
ikoniadav1dp0101: I'd advise against it13:16
iptabledav1dp0101, so you need 2x500MB (2 drives at 500MB each) and you will have 500MB of space in raid1, but any drive can crash and it will work13:16
Musa845i am using ubuntu with one NIC card and I want to share internet on LAN. I have a hub on LAN with some PCs. any help for this?13:17
iptabledav1dp0101, so on a server, use RAID1 and backup to external location/drive using RSYNC. that is very stable backup assuming office doesn't catch fire13:17
Totsin modifying /etc/rc.local, you put the command before exit 0, yes?13:17
iptableTots, yes13:18
dav1dp0101iptable , ikonia: but i worry that if there is a problem with a corrupt device, then it will be a problem on both devices (raid0 ad raid1) since they are mirrors of each other.13:18
TotsThings don't seem to want to play13:18
ikoniadav1dp0101: it doesn't work like that13:18
iptabledav1dp0101, no, raid1 mirrors data, not device corruption. raid1 protects you from physical fault with hard drives. backup will protect you in case you remove your OS, blow up your machine, or for example loose all data due to filesystem corruption on both disks.13:19
iptabledav1dp0101, so, raid1 is needed for servers, really. I have had a drive fail once in a while in my servers. you just swap it, make the dmraid remirror and you are up and running13:20
dav1dp0101ikonia: why not? Any software bug or error on disk will be on RAID0 and RAID1. Also, I only have one device with a CPU (and 500GB disk space) plus one external HDD (1 TB size). So i don't think i'm set up for RAID1. Why can't I run RAID1 on an external HDD?13:20
iptabledav1dp0101, well, you were still running and loss of HDD in raid1 means you are still online. even during remirror13:20
Totsiptable: you wouldn't happen to know anything about x11vnc, would you? I'm just trying to get it to execute the server every time the computer starts so I can get into it remotely. If I execute it in command-line after start, it's fine13:20
ikoniadav1dp0101: too slow13:20
iptabledav1dp0101, software bug will be on RAID1 what? dmraid is stable as hell. NEVER had anyone say it crashed13:21
TotsBut I've got x11vnc -forever -usepw  in before exit 0 in rc.local but it does not seem to want to execute that line or it's executing it before something is not ready and that's ending it. I need it to execute before the computer logs in13:21
dav1dp0101iptable: it looks like I can't use RAID1 without sacrificing half my disk space (500GB) which is not an option. RAID1 requires another device, right?13:21
iptabledav1dp0101, sounds like your setup is not server-ready. usb drives are slow as well. use rsync to backup, that IS the solution. you cannot create raw images of online filesystem. your backup will be corrupt.13:21
iptabledav1dp0101, yes, RAID1 = 2 devices. you will have space of one device, the other acts as a mirror13:22
iptabledav1dp0101, that server is not fit for purpose. considered buying a HP Microserver N40L for example? 100GBP and 4 drive slots, 2 core CPU and 2 GB of RAM13:22
iptabledav1dp0101, anyways, that's another subject.13:22
iptabledav1dp0101, now read on about how RAID1 works, vs RAID0 which you quoted (which is NOT redundancy and you loose 1 dirve you loose all data on RAID0). read also on the link I have given you and investigate the different file-level backup solutions present.13:24
dav1dp0101iptable: well we don't have the budget to buy another device like the HP Microserver. We're stuck with what we have. Although maybe we could upgrade our internal HD to 1 TB. But that won't give us RAID1.13:25
dav1dp0101iptable: I'll use rsync to backup the root folder to two separate partitions on the external HDD.13:26
dav1dp0101iptable: I think that's about all I can do in terms of backing up my server.13:26
iptabledav1dp0101, *we* don't have *budget* for 100 GBP? what company is that?13:27
dav1dp0101iptable: a small campus/community radio station. This whole server upgrade is grant funded by the government.13:29
cfhowlettdav1dp0101, sell some cookies!  100 gb for secure backup is not a luxury, it's a basic need.13:29
dav1dp0101 cfhowlett: What do you mean 100 GB? for RAID1 I need the same size disk on the device, 500 GB.13:31
iptablethat's under 200USD. you could make that much by fixing a computer for a few neighbours I'm sure.13:31
iptabledav1dp0101, 100GBP, great-british-pound. It's a currency13:32
iptabledav1dp0101, instead, if you have such problems, why not sell the server on eBay and go with the cloud? virtual hosting is dirt cheap nowadays and gives you more power for less price.13:32
cfhowlettiptable, doh!  sorry dav1dp0101 .  I saw gb not gpb.  foot insert mouth syndrome.13:32
iptabledav1dp0101, instead, if you have such problems, why not sell the server on eBay and go with the cloud? virtual hosting is dirt cheap nowadays and gives you more power for less price.13:33
iptablecfhowlett, wouldn't you agree on that one? ^13:33
dav1dp0101iptable: no I need an additional device, which is more like 500$ CAD (canadian dollars). I'll talk to the project manager, but let's just say the chances are highly slim.13:33
Totsomg, why is this so complicated and why can't I do it >.<13:33
cfhowlettiptable, setting up a could sounds like an option.  Didn't/doesn't Amazon give away a free cloud hosting package of some sort?13:34
ddvTots: because of pebcak13:34
ddv:-)13:34
TotsI made a config file in etc/init/  told it to start the prgoram, and still no-go. :/ I just want to run a freaking vnc server for the server13:34
TotsIt just doesn't seem to want to start13:34
iptableTots, and rc.local?13:35
Totsiptable, I tried rc.local with the same command and args. Still nothing13:35
ddvdoes Ubuntu still use upstart? with systemd it's easy to set that up, did you chmod +x the file?13:35
TotsI think since the program never returns, that rc.local never gets to exit 013:35
iptablecfhowlett, yes it does. and a lot of companies will charge something silly like 20USB/15GBP per month for a nice server spec. dav1dp0101 why is that a problem?13:35
iptableTots, in rc.local try to run the app with & character to background it13:36
ddv20 usb sticks, iptable?13:36
iptableUSD13:36
Totsiptable, the app when run in terminal with an & will not continue on13:36
iptableyou see I type USB miuch more :D13:36
Totsit won't run multiple13:36
iptableTots, 1. disable the GUI (actually go to terminal turn it off with /etc/init.d/whatever-dm stop), 2. try x11vnc and see what happens13:37
iptableTots, my guess is that you need the GUI working before starting x11vnc, which is a bitr of a problem then13:37
Totsit's a GUI application that forwards x11. Where is x11's config again? Can't I just attach to that?13:37
TotsThat way, x11 WILL start, and THEN I can execute it13:38
iptableTots, no idea sorry. there is a config file somewhere, just unsure where13:38
iptableTots, on login is much easier, as after login scripts can be executed with "startup" option in ubuntu13:39
cfhowlettdav1dp0101, clearly you know your issue parameters better than I do, but storage, especially cloud based, is approaching the point of inconsequential cost.  Balanced against the benefits of backup/recovery, I wonder if a funding proposal might be worth considering.13:39
Totsit's a server, I need to be able to vnc into the box when it reboots, regardless13:39
ddvTots: why does a server need a gui?13:40
rainbowwarriortopic13:40
rainbowwarrioroops13:40
gp5sthello. I just did an apt-get update and it upgraded firefox to ff 32.  This isn't compatible with selenium and I need to downgrade. Is there a clean way todo that with apt? Or do I need to grab a deb and install it by hand?13:40
cfhowlettgp5st, I dist-upgraded and I'm still on ff 31. Did you enable "proposed" repos or something?13:41
dav1dp0101cfhowlett, iptable: I don't disagree that backup/recovery is of primary importance. For some reason I thought I could take snapshots and use rsync on my server and not need a second device. That was my mistake. But now that we've got this equipment, I've got to make do with them. A monthly fee is i out of the question, i think. The reason I didn't choose to do RAID1 is that I've heard bad things about it. And my limited experienc13:42
dav1dp0101e has been that when RAID0 crashes, RAID1 crashes too (that was in a previous workplace with a different sysadmin).13:42
Phil_flxit13:42
gp5stcfhowlett: I shouldn't have.  This was set up by IT at my office (to my shagrin) and they13:43
iptabledav1dp0101, raid0 is totally different to raid1, so no, your experience is wrong13:43
gp5st're ussally conservative about stuff like that13:43
TotsDang, I even tried writing the command to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and still nothing.13:43
dav1dp0101iptable: no I mean when using RAID1, when the main device crashed, the mirror crashed too. Both systems went down!13:44
iptabledav1dp0101, whoever told you that, lied. raid0 means data is striped acorss drives. you loose 1 drive, you loose all data. raid1 means that data is mirrored across 2 drives. you loose 1 drive, you just replace it and remirror to new one13:44
iptabledav1dp0101, no, the idea of raid1 is that when one drive crashes, you system continues and you just replace the drive. and that idea WORKS!13:44
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iptabledav1dp0101, hence out of my 1000s-of-server-in-datacentre-with-20-datacentres experience, we ALWAYS used RAID. RAID1 or RAID6, depending on HDD number and use scenario.13:45
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dav1dp0101iptable: I understand the idea. I'm saying that's not what happened previously. Both drives went down.13:45
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iptabledav1dp0101, nope, that's impossible from raid perspective13:45
superkuhWeird. I just updated to 14.04. Now any OpenGl application will cause minor screen corruption in the form of black squares overlaying other positions on the screen.13:45
iptabledav1dp0101, either the story is a lie from someone who didn't know jack, OR possibly both were from a faulty batch from the same manufacturing line and both died on the same day. that IS possible and did happen on a number of occasions13:46
cfhowlettgp5st, I do daily updates/dist-upgrades.   I don't understand how you've got 31.  anyway, the only way I know to regress would be with a .deb13:46
cfhowlettsuperkuh, might need to tweak your graphic driver or settings13:47
AtuMdav1dp0101, do you use hardware raid1?13:47
dav1dp0101iptable: besides, RAID1 provides redundancy, but it's not a backup.13:47
superkuhI suppose so. It'll probably break all my OpenCl stuff but time for another driver reinstall.13:47
dav1dp0101AtuM: no hardware raid1.13:49
AtuMdavidcalle, what you're describing is what happened to me when I used mdraid for raid1 and the first drive went down - after reboot it did not boot since there was no grub on the surviving drive. this happens a lot with default installations ;-)13:49
davidcalledav1dp0101, ^13:49
AtuMdavidcalle, sorry ;-) I ment dav1dp010113:50
davidcalleAtuM, no worries :)13:50
AtuMdavidcalle, hope I did not wake you up there ;)13:50
iptabledav1dp0101, correct. you need raid1 for redundancy. that's backup against failing drives (hardware). you need rsync or other solution for backups against total disaster failure or corruption. you need that rasync/other backup with versioning (incremental/differencial) for accidental data deletion recovery in time.13:50
davidcalleAtuM, how dare you waking me up at work!13:50
davidcalle;)13:51
AtuMdavidcalle, please spare me.13:51
iptableAtuM, that's installation FAIL. you have to grub-install /dev/sda and /dev/sdb after system install. thats' NOT what he is describing (both drives died apparently...)13:51
iptabledav1dp0101, so that, together with the link I have given you and other info is enough for you to make a good backup plan.13:51
Moscherkoboldhello everyone, is it possible to move a thunderbird profile folder from a windows machine to my linux machine? I know this works fine from windows to windows or linux to linux, but does it also work over different OS ?13:52
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, export the data from source, move it to target, import.  done.13:52
AtuMiptable, so true.. what I wouldn't do to have a chance at such an installation fail on 14.04 desktop. I know how to correct it - the 14.04 desktop has no mdraid anymore.. any known guide out there on how to make it work ???13:53
Moscherkoboldcfhowlett: what do you mean with export and import? just copy the folder?13:53
iptableAtuM, you got me lost there. why can't you install mdraid? or install ubuntu-server and then issue apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?13:54
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, wait 1 - searching13:54
superkuhDang. I thought updating to fglrx-updates would fix it. It didn't.13:54
iptabledav1dp0101, and never use hardware raid unless you got manufacturer replacement part guarantee (so they can replace with exactly same part). HW raid controllers are NOT compatible with each other, even different models from same manufacturer. Software raid for basic installations is much better. recover to any other hardware.13:54
iptabledav1dp0101, that's from "failed controller/motherboard/server" perspective13:55
superkuhIt doesn't show the corruption in screenshots. I'd have to physically take photos of my monitors.13:55
dav1dp0101iptable, cfhowlett, AtuM: thanks for all the advice. Ultimately I'm not gonna go with raid1, but I am gonna do my rsyncs a bit better.13:55
superkuhEven just running fglrxinfo does it.13:55
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, "address book > tools > import|export"13:55
cfhowlettdav1dp0101, happy2help13:55
AtuMiptable, I've tried installing ubuntu-server also. but the end result was a loop when initrd tried to bring up the md devices.. could't figure that one out - lack of time13:55
superkuhLike fglrxinfo is somehow using the RAM of the X display.13:55
superkuhAs soon as that part of the X display is updated by some other process it goes away.13:56
Moscherkoboldcfhowlett: i was not talking about the adress book, sorry if this was not written clear enough13:56
AtuMdav1dp0101, I'd go with hardware raid1 and rsync as a backup.13:56
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, of course   :)   there's a way - searching13:57
Moscherkoboldcfhowlett: I want to move the whole thunderbird profile to another maschine13:57
iptableAtuM, worked out of the box here13:57
dav1dp0101AtuM: i think you missed the earlier convo, but I can't do hardware Raid1 because we don't have enough hardware.13:57
iptableAtuM, some other issue I guess13:57
Moscherkoboldcfhowlett: i know this works from one windows machine to another, I was just wondering if this will also work across different OS13:57
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, I think if you have an OS agnostic format (text delimited, for example) it works without issue13:58
AtuMdav1dp0101, oh, that can be quite limiting, true. Best of luck with rsync!13:58
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, I can't see this (great chinese firewall) but I think it explains all   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail13:59
Moscherkoboldcfhowlett: thank you :)13:59
AtuMiptable, I made the exact same thing on some newer hardware also.. that system is plain old - so i went and installed debian stable - old software for an old workstation ;-)13:59
cfhowlettMoscherkobold, even better ( I guess)  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup13:59
_unreal_any one very knowledgeable about NAS servers?14:00
iptableAtuM, ah too new for you :P14:02
iptable_unreal_, a lot of people14:02
_unreal_the issue I'm having is that I keep having access issues to my DSM-G60014:03
_unreal_I try to FTP into it to add/remove files and get no route to host errors14:03
_unreal_Response:425 Can't build data connection: No route to host.14:04
_unreal_Error:Failed to retrieve directory listing14:04
_unreal_I had a LOT of small files. could it be that the nas is having issues with a large volume of files and folders?14:04
iptable_unreal_, that's networking issue. don't use FTP if you can avoid it. it's sh1t14:06
_unreal_i'm getting the same issues I believe both on SMB and ftp14:07
running_rabbit07I installed Nemo, then after a restart there are icons on the desktop for trash and whatnot, can I use this command to remove them? I found it on an Arch wiki. "gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons false"14:07
iptable_unreal_, it's probably FTP issue even. works using other access protocols? smb? web? If so, it's FTP is bad. if not, you have a networking problem.14:07
iptable_unreal_, we don't work with "I believe". TEST!14:07
* iptable goes to pickup kids from sch00l14:07
_unreal_school? you must be in uk14:08
_unreal_I just dropped mine off 2 hours ago14:08
TurkerTunaliwhat should I check if sudo pm-hibernate does nothing?14:11
TurkerTunalii have enoug swap space14:11
_unreal_does nothing?14:11
TurkerTunaliswap is larger than memory14:11
running_rabbit07nevermind, I used "gsettings set org.nemo.desktop home-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop trash-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop computer-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop volumes-visible false"14:11
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expungeTurkerTunali: might check your BIOS config14:12
TurkerTunaliexpunge: Which BIOS settings? I can hibernate on win714:12
_unreal_win7 has nothing to do with your bios14:12
expungeTurkerTunali: on the same box, you mean?14:12
TurkerTunaliyea same laptop14:13
expungeoh okay14:13
_unreal_your bios is what you access the moment you power on your laptop14:13
expungeTurkerTunali: do you have a script that says 'suspend' instead of 'hibernate'?14:13
TurkerTunaliI have suspend14:13
expungetry that14:13
TurkerTunaliok, I am trying suspend. Does suspend means hibernate?14:13
_unreal_suspend and hibernate are different levels of powering down your computer for low or zero power consumption14:14
expungewell, really they're just arbitrary names14:15
expungeS# states are the actualities14:15
TurkerTunaliI need zero power14:15
expungeTurkerTunali: try it and see if it draws power14:15
TurkerTunaliI usually hibernate my computer14:15
expungeTurkerTunali: you usually press something that _says_ "hibernate"14:15
TurkerTunaliok I will try just need a moment14:15
_unreal_ok let us know AS you hibernate :)14:16
expungethe long names, "suspend", "hibernate" are a bit like intel processor codenames14:16
expungethey tell you almost nothing =)14:16
TurkerTunaliI am hibernating now :)14:16
expunge=)14:16
TurkerTunalitransforming to ....14:16
_unreal_shhhh he's hibernating14:16
acidrain_hello. i am running ubuntu 12.10. lately ive been having issues with KDE crashing alot more frequently. i wish to upgrade KDE to the newest 4.9. is this safe?14:16
expungeacidrain_: if the package manager allows it, it should be safe14:17
acidrain_ok. ill try it.14:17
_unreal_when does it crash most often? certain activies?14:17
acidrain__unreal_, is seems to crash most when im away from it. ill return to the computer and see that processors are running at 0%14:18
acidrain_it morely 'freezes' right after that14:18
acidrain_it works just enough for me to open terminal and restart kde14:18
expungemaybe something to do with your power management14:18
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_unreal_is this a new development?14:18
acidrain_expunge, when i first installed kde. it would actually crash maybe once every 10 days14:19
acidrain_its down to about once every day now14:19
expungethat's a lot of crashing itself =)14:19
acidrain_usually opening firefox and watching netflix causes a crash14:19
expungealthough, if I had to guess, it's not necessarily KDE as much as... how it's packaged =)14:19
expungemmm, well14:19
expungethat involves silverlight14:19
_unreal_AHHHHHH firefox14:19
expungeall bets are off =P14:19
_unreal_acidrain_, have you cleared your browser cache at all?14:20
acidrain_thats the only way i know to MAKE it crash. and it doesnt work everytime14:20
acidrain__unreal_, id say not in the past 2yrs14:20
expungeacidrain_: what are you using for netflix?14:20
expungedevelopment on that is fast14:20
expungeeven though now they've bogarted it and starting implementing "HTML5" video14:21
_unreal_clearing your data cache in your browser wont hurt any and will clear your overhead on that software14:21
_unreal_besure not to clear your password list and any other senstive datayou dont want to loose14:21
acidrain_http://pastebin.com/LxDcfFkb  ???14:21
acidrain_expunge, its a silverlight alternative14:22
acidrain_forgot what its called.14:22
_unreal_non-free soft no doubt I bet14:22
cfhowlett!monolight14:22
TurkerTunaliexpunge: my computer just sleeps when Suspend, eg it needs power for memories14:22
cfhowlett!info moolight14:23
acidrain_yep. monolight it is14:23
cfhowlett!info monolight14:23
expungeI was interested in what he was using14:23
ubottuPackage moolight does not exist in trusty14:23
ubottuPackage monolight does not exist in trusty14:23
expungenot what you think he is talking about =P14:23
expungeor your spam =P14:23
* expunge headdesks14:23
expungeTurkerTunali: okay14:23
expungeTurkerTunali: you're using ordinary Ubuntu?14:23
TurkerTunaliyes, 14.04 fresh install14:23
expungeacidrain_: I don't think moonlight works with netflix14:23
expungeacidrain_: was it the netflix-desktop package?14:24
expunge(dpkg -l | grep -i netflix)14:24
phillipwiki down?14:24
acidrain_expunge, no. it was monolight + firefox14:24
TurkerTunalishould i use some boot parameters?14:24
expungeacidrain_: monolight or moonlight?14:24
expungephillip: try google's cache14:24
acidrain_"monolight"14:24
expungeacidrain_: mmm, never heard of it14:25
expungeI think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_%28runtime%29 but that doesn't really help with netflix IME14:25
* expunge shrugs14:25
phillipthanks expunge good idea14:26
expungeTurkerTunali: might check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate#Hibernate_Disabled_by_Default14:26
acidrain_updating KDE as we speak14:26
acidrain_:s14:26
acidrain_scared14:26
expungeacidrain_: don't worry, the worst that can happen is your computer dies and you have to go outside and enjoy life as nature intended =)14:27
expungenot so bad, right?14:27
_unreal_twilight zone doo DOO doo doo DOO doo doo14:27
TurkerTunaliexpunge: thanks, checking14:28
_unreal_heh and its only 90 degrees out side here14:28
nonconvergentIf anyone can help me, we just setup svn (actually migrated to a new image) with dav on an apache2 server successfully, but I now I'm trying to figure out how to get some locale maven stuff setup as a virtual host on there too.  I added it to virtual host in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but I get a forbidden when I try access that page.14:29
nonconvergentI don't really know what a virtual host is, so there's that.  Nor did I setup the maven directories.  I'm just told that they worked on the last one, so they should work on this one.14:29
TurkerTunaliexpunge: It says "If the hibernate test works ...." but it doesn't. sudo pm-hibernate does nothing14:29
expungeTurkerTunali: doesn't suggest a course of action?14:30
acidrain_lol. there is about 100 something packages related to KDE that i had uninstalled. what do i gotta do to make them not show up in the software update tool?14:31
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expungewhy would you want that14:32
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raubI would think if they were uninstalled yum won't try to install thema gain14:32
acidrain_so when im reviewing the description of new packages. i dont have to scroll 2miles to see what one package is14:32
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pbxnonconvergent, have you asked in #httpd?14:32
nonconvergentpbx: No.14:33
expungeacidrain_: why not just install them?14:33
acidrain_like... akregator, dolphin, gwenview, kaddressbook, nepomuk backup, knetattach, kfontview14:33
acidrain_+ about 90 more14:33
acidrain_expunge, its like bloatware that comes with android. :/14:34
acidrain_default ubuntu tools work fine14:34
expungemmm14:34
expungeyou might want to get rid of kubuntu-desktop, then14:34
acidrain_but i like the look :(14:34
expungeor whatever KDE metapackage you have installed14:34
cfhowlett!yum | raub14:34
ubotturaub: Uh, don't you mean !apt ?14:34
expungejust the metapackage14:34
acidrain_!metapackage14:35
ubottuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.14:35
acidrain_lol. i just installed this14:35
acidrain_it was part of the upgrade14:35
expunge'this'?14:35
odinhi14:35
acidrain_i just installed the metapackage to upgrade to new KDE14:35
expungewell, you needn't have =)14:36
expungeodin: hello14:36
expungeodin: today is your day14:36
odinI have physical access to a machine, that had ubuntu isntalled, but my password doesn't work anymore, how can I gain access?14:36
odinexpunge, horrible14:36
expungeodin: Wednesday, I mean =P14:36
sec0815Hi. Is there a way to configure grub2 that way,  only interactive editing of boot menues is disabled? Superuser force a password for every menu item, until it is declared unrestrictive, what makes it editable again. It is not possible to declare all user for the "--users" option.14:36
expungeodin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode14:36
raubodin: single user mode and then change pw? Or is it network pw?14:36
expungesec0815: only, as opposed to?14:37
odinraub, single user14:37
sec0815expunge -- opposed to every item is locked for selection. User should be able to boot the machine, but not being able to edit an menu entry. It was quiet easy with ubuntu 12.04. (Just trying ubu 14.04).14:39
raubodin: if the machine can be rebooted, go to recover/single user mode as expunge suggested. If you can't, is there anybody else that can log in and then change your pw? I assume local accounts, right?14:39
expungesec0815: mmm, you might just ask #grub, then14:40
sec0815expunge, ok. will have a try.14:40
gansteed can't display ?14:40
gansteedwhat's the matter ?14:40
ozzy_is it default channels?14:43
expungeozzy_: hrmm?14:44
nobody18288181what is the software that searchs ubuntu repositories? I forgot the name14:44
expungenobody18288181: apt-cache search foo14:44
iptablenobody18288181, apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude14:44
acidrain_lol14:44
nobody18288181sorry, i mean third party repos14:44
acidrain_seems like everytime i install an update in KDE software updates. there is more updates14:45
user123321sorry my internet was reset, did anyone say anything related to my system crash after I logged out?14:45
iptablenobody18288181, uhm, add the repos to sources.list, apt-get update; apt-cache search14:45
nobody18288181it's an additional package that searches through apt repositories that isn't installed by default (it's not apt-N)14:45
expungeapt-cache search search | egrep -i apt14:45
acidrain_can anyone tell me how to remove the kde metapackage now?14:45
cfhowlettacidrain_, sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop14:46
cfhowlett!pureubuntu | acidrain_14:46
ubottuacidrain_: If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu14:46
iptablenobody18288181, never heard of it14:46
acidrain_sudo apt-remove-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports -y  ???14:46
expungecfhowlett: does that remove the package and not the deps?14:46
acidrain_cfhowlett, those commands look like they should do more than just remove the metapackage14:47
acidrain_perhaps thats not what i want. i want to remove the ppa14:47
nobody18288181it's a gui app that searches through all ppa's on launchpad14:47
nobody18288181makes it easy to add a third party repo without knowing what it is14:47
expungenobody18288181: apt-cache search launchpad ? =)14:47
cfhowlettexpunge, only the first one is a comman. pureubuntu tells how to restore to your pre-kde install status14:47
expungehe just wants to remove the meta package14:47
cfhowlettacidrain_, but I had no idea you were mucking with PPA so disregard14:48
cfhowlett!ppa14:48
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:48
nobody18288181here it is14:48
nobody18288181for anyone curious14:48
nobody18288181http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/y-ppa-manager-004-released-with-new.html14:48
iptablenobody18288181, you mean "y ppa"?14:48
expungenobody18288181: what's it called?14:48
iptableoh14:48
nobody18288181ye14:49
iptableyes, y ppa manager, it's not in the default ubuntu repos though and I would be scared to search ppas and add them like that.14:49
nobody18288181yolo, never had issue tbh14:49
cfhowlett!ppa-purge | acidrain_14:49
ubottuacidrain_: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html14:49
acidrain_Backports of new versions of KDE Platform, Plasma and Applcations as well as major KDE apps for Kubuntu.14:50
acidrain_man what does that mean? i dont want to remove all of the KDE apps14:50
TotsFor xfce4, what Xauthority do I use for the login screen so my vnc can hook into the XSession?14:50
acidrain_brb. restarting kde14:51
minotaur_hi all14:51
minotaur_my compiz doesn't show the title bar, help...14:51
acidrain_wtf. kdm command not found14:51
acidrain_:/14:51
TurkerTunalihello guys, now I can hibernate my computer with "pm-hibernate". I've just use "echo disk > /sys/power/state" command to hibernate my computer and now "pm-hibernate" working as expected14:53
TurkerTunaliI've used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate14:53
expungeTurkerTunali: well done14:55
expungeminotaur_: can you move windows?14:55
phat4life_what are some alternatives to samba. I have ubuntu 14.04.1 and samba is causing crashes.  I just need to be able to access files from my mac on the network14:56
expungephat4life_: sshfs14:56
superkuhNFS?14:56
ddvphat4life_: maybe you should investigate why it is crashing14:56
phat4life_ddv: fresh install of ubuntu14:56
iptablephat4life_, how are you accessing the samba shares? using GUI?14:57
phat4life_iptable: yeah14:57
phat4life_i want to be able to use a GUI14:57
iptablephat4life_, and how are you sharing on the mac?14:57
phat4life_iptable just connecting the smb://14:57
phat4life_i am not sharing anything on the mac14:57
iptablephat4life_, uhm, so how are you accessing files from the mac if you are not sharing anything on it?14:58
phat4life_iptable: i setup a samba account to read and write my /media/user directory14:58
phat4life_i didn’t configure anything on my mac14:58
kulhashi, after upgrading my ubuntu server I get this error when trying to install php5 http://pastebin.com/7qA864kc14:59
odinthanks guys, got in14:59
phat4life_i connect via finder smb:/192.168.1.102 or whatever the lan address is14:59
iptablephat4life_, so you want to access linux files on mac or vice versa? I don't get it. you said you need to be able to access files from mac on the network. I'm guessing you want to access files from mac to ubuntu.14:59
iptablephat4life_, OR do you mean you installed ubuntu on a mac and you want to access files from the network on that ubuntu that's installed on the mac?15:00
phat4life_iptable: i installed ubuntu on my desktop15:00
iptablephat4life_, so what's mac got to do with it?15:00
phat4life_iptable: i want to use the ubuntu box as a file storage server where i can read and write files on my mac15:00
phat4life_iptable: so like as if the ubuntu box was an external hard drive for my mac15:01
iptablephat4life_, so the statement "I just need to be able to access files from my mac on the network" is totally wrong15:01
phat4life_semantics sorry it wasn’t clear15:01
iptablephat4life_, so you want to be able to access files using samba that are shared by the ubuntu box15:01
phat4life_correct but not samba15:01
iptablephat4life_, but that's what you are doing, that's now crashing, right? sharing on ubuntu, using GUI on that ubuntu and accessing somewhere else?15:02
odinhow can I check if a linux box is auto upgrading?15:02
iptablephat4life_, and then that ubuntu that's sharing is crashing? define "crashing"15:02
somsipodin: /var/log/unattended-upgrades/*.log (or similar)15:02
iptableodin, dpkg -l |grep unattended-upgrades15:03
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odinsamsip doesn't exist15:04
odiniptable: no output15:04
iptableodin, then it doesn't do auto updates15:04
somsipodin: so two negatives. It's telling you something...15:04
odincool, weird though15:04
iptableodin, to do them, it would need the package15:04
odinI did an update upgrade15:04
iptableodin, "update upgrade" no such command15:04
odinand it only wants to update 42 packages and 34 mb15:04
odinseems strange, considering this PC was off for about a year and has Ubuntu 10.04 on it15:05
iptableodin, so why is that bad?15:05
AcidRain2012expunge: good gonig man15:05
odiniptable, I meant apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;15:05
AcidRain2012expunge: "if the package manage allows it. its safe"15:05
AcidRain2012lol15:05
iptableodin, 10.04 desktop is out of support and server only receives security updates, that's why15:05
odiniptable, because that means updates were installed, and now the system is broken15:05
iptableodin, 10.04 desktop is out of support and server only receives security updates, that's why15:05
odinspecifically, if I enable the second nic (bios) then it fails to boot (doesn't boot anything, not from disk or USB)15:05
odiniptable, ok, that makes sense then15:06
phat4life_iptable: I don’t have the error handy i am at work, but the samba errors were  right after i installed ubuntu 14.04, fresh install15:06
odinnow I just have to figure out why I can't enable that second nic15:06
iptableodin, upgrade to 14.04 if you acn.15:06
expungeAcidRain2012: hrmm?15:06
phat4life_iptable: like before i installed anything15:06
AcidRain2012KDE wont load no more15:06
iptableodin, and after upgrade, THEN figure out why (if) it still doesn't work15:06
odiniptable, I am not allowed to15:06
AcidRain2012it loads into a blank desktop with nothing else but a background image.15:06
AcidRain2012gnome2 loaded at first15:06
odiniptable, I have begged the bosses and explained to them the dangers of running 10.04, but I am just a slave15:06
odinI don't get to make dicisions15:07
iptablephat4life_, so it didn't crash as opposed to what you said, you received errors and can't quote them...15:07
expungeAcidRain2012: what does? What are you after?15:07
AcidRain2012i was after a stable KDE15:07
AcidRain2012now i have no KDE :(15:07
iptablephat4life_, come back once you have the box/errors at hand and we can try to figure out WHY it's producing the errors. did you read the error, what did it even suggest?15:07
AcidRain2012expunge: this is fine though. now i just wish to uninstall KDe completely and use gnome215:08
expungeAcidRain2012: what's stopping you?15:08
iptableodin, uhm, bosses meetings and "out of support, vulnerable and WILL be hacked and you will loose all business and be jobless" statement I'm guessing was not pressed by yourself?15:08
AcidRain2012lol. knowing what command will uninstall kde15:08
iptableodin, if you are a slave of your work, wrong attitude or wrong job15:08
odiniptable, it was15:08
odiniptable, wrong job15:08
iptableodin, then you work for idiots. why are they making the decision?15:08
odiniptable, but sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do to put food on the table15:08
AcidRain2012kubuntu-desktop looks like more than just KDE15:08
minotaur_expunge, yes I can move windows :)15:08
iptableodin, and have you not another box to migrate between? why do you need second NIC anyways?15:08
ikoniakubuntu-desktop is kde15:09
odiniptable, this box is multihomed (on two different networks)15:09
ikoniait's a metapackage that pulls in kde, dependencies and the kubuntu specific packags/configurations15:09
AcidRain2012ikonia: i think kubuntu-desktop installed a safe gnome2 as a fallback. and i dont want to remove it15:09
iptableodin, so you don't have vlans either on your network?15:09
odiniptable, I do15:09
ikoniaAcidRain2012: I don't think it did15:09
ikoniaAcidRain2012: I'd be very surprised if it did15:09
odiniptable, I have a fully isolated VLAN, hence the need for the second nic15:10
iptableodin, so why do you need another NIC? just put both VLANs on that port for the NIC and configure your VLAN interfaces on the 1 nic15:10
AcidRain2012ikonia: well i have it. and im not sure how i got it. then again. i havent tampered with my system in an extremely long time15:10
odiniptable, what?15:10
ikoniaAcidRain2012: is this a kubuntu install, or an ubuntu install with kubuntu-desktop15:10
iptableodin, no, a NIC can be on multiple vlans. and the port can be configured to be a trunk port for multiple vlans15:10
AcidRain2012its a ubuntu 12.10 install with kubuntu-desktop15:10
odiniptable, I have so no clue htf that works15:10
ikoniaAcidRain2012: so thats where gnome came from15:10
ikoniaAcidRain2012: gnome is part of the ubuntu innstall15:11
ikoniainstall15:11
AcidRain2012rly?15:11
odiniptable, so ur telling me I can make one physical interface appear as two in linux?15:11
ikoniayes15:11
AcidRain2012i installed KDE cause i thought that ubuntu used unity now15:11
AcidRain2012and unity is just horrible15:11
iptableodin, let's say you want vlans 100 and 200 for that box. on the switch you set the port as trunk port and tag vlans 100 and 200 on it. on the ubuntu box you configure eth0.100 interface and eth0.200 interface. this creates 2 interfaces using 1 physical interface, one for vlan100 one for 20015:11
ikoniaAcidRain2012: unity is based on a lot of gnome libraries15:11
qwerkushello. Can someone point me to a working howto on a clean xorg reinstall (complete purge + nvidia removal + reinstall) in 14.04 ? Thanks a lot.15:11
odiniptable, wow, I understand the switch side but fuck, ubuntu can do that15:12
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iptableodin, you can make one interface appear as 2 on the same network even, without even having vlans, just using aliases15:12
iptableodin, no swearing please15:12
iptableodin, googling "ubuntu 10.04 vlan howto" returns nice examples and tutorials15:12
odinfack, thanks so much iptable15:13
odinalso... approrpriate name :D15:13
iptableodin, here is one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan, here is another: http://www.microhowto.info/howto/configure_an_ethernet_interface_as_a_vlan_trunk_on_debian.html15:13
iptableodin, cheers :) and no problem.15:13
AcidRain2012ok. what i need to do now. if i wish to use KDE. is completely uninstall KDE and all of its packages. and reinstall15:14
MagicSpudhello I ve been using storybook 4.0.9 for a while and now I notice the copywrite is obsolete from 2012. does that mean I cant go pro? I would like the complete version of the program15:14
ikoniaAcidRain2012: why would you uninstall kde if you want to use kde15:14
AcidRain2012ikonia: becasue its still loading a desktop ONLY. nothing else15:15
AcidRain2012i cant get back to regular gnome215:15
ikoniaAcidRain2012: what desktop do you want to actually use ?15:15
AcidRain2012kde is very nice. i wish to go with that. but if it will further damage my system. i wish to use gnome215:16
ikoniaAcidRain2012: gnoem2 doesn't exist15:16
ikoniaAcidRain2012: no supported distro is using gnome 215:16
AcidRain2012i was just looking at it man :/15:16
iptableodin, if you are not doing layer 2 separation but only have 2 separate subnets on same vlan, you can even do that without vlans, eth0:1 and eth0:2 can be created and assigned IPs. It's called interface alias. alternatively, you can create bridge interfaces that are connected to just your eth0, call them br0 and br1 and give them separate IPs (that's also assuming your network has no vlans)15:16
ikoniaAcidRain2012: ubuntu uses unity, kubuntu uses kde, xbuntu users xfce15:16
odiniptable, I am doing layer 2 seperation on the switch15:17
iptableodin, so depending on your scenario, use either aliases/bridge if you are not using vlans, or configure vlans with eth0.VLANID etc if using vlans15:17
AcidRain2012when i restarted my comp after kde updates. it booted into gnome2. i hit logout. my options where: unity 2d, unity 3d, gnome2, plasma desktop15:17
iptableodin, my linux router has got 7 vlans configured, including lab vlan etc. it definitely works ;)15:17
odiniptable, I am playing with the vlan as eth0.vlandid15:17
AcidRain2012i chose plasma desktop. now im stuck with ONLY  a desktop15:17
odinso the eth0. specifies the physical interface, right?15:17
ikoniaAcidRain2012: gnome2 is not in supported disitros15:18
ikoniadistros15:18
iptableodin, cool. have fun. PM me if you get stuck. I am here most of the time during UK business hours15:18
ikoniaAcidRain2012: there are various packages such as "fallback" which was changed to something else in 14.04 (can't remember the name)15:18
ikoniaAcidRain2012: your best realistic bet is to pick a currently supported desktop you like - and install a supported distro with it and get used to use it15:18
AcidRain2012ikonia: i believe youl .but i do have it. and my preferences are KDE > gnome2 > switch back to windows xp15:18
iptableodin, yes, eth0 is physical. the ".100, .200" specify vlans. the ":1 :2 etc" specify aliases, and brXX are bridge interfaces15:18
ikoniaAcidRain2012: I suspect you have either gnome-fallback or gnome2 from some other repo15:19
odiniptable, thanks alot for the help15:19
iptableodin, you can have br0.100 or eth0.100 or bond0.100 (for bond interfaces, bond) and these will be on vlan 10015:19
iptableodin, no probs15:19
AcidRain2012can anyone tell me if hitting the power button 1 time for a split second will log me out of a DE?15:20
AcidRain2012i have to get to a terminal15:20
ikoniactrl+alt+F1/2/3/4/515:20
iptableAcidRain2012, if you configured it to do so, yes. otherwise, no15:20
ikoniachange to a VT15:20
AcidRain2012ikonia: ok, brb. imma try that15:20
iptableAcidRain2012, CTRL ... oh. what ikonia said ;)15:20
iptableoooh, using VT-d successfully?15:21
iptabledamn, my dell has a bios bug and doesn't reserve shadow GTT so I can't do it :/15:21
AcidRain2012ok. ive made it to a terminal15:22
AcidRain2012for some reason, kdm is no longer a command15:23
ikoniano it doesn't use kdm as a window manager any more15:23
ikoniaAcidRain2012: what are you doing ??15:23
AcidRain2012so i cannot load kde. my plan is to make it to the gnome2 or unity shell as of now. then fix the issues.15:23
AcidRain2012right now im looking at ONLY a terminal window15:23
AcidRain2012ctrl+alt+f1 helped me here15:23
tataI changed video card, do I must install ubuntu again ?(older ubuntu 10.4)15:23
ikoniaAcidRain2012: what are you trying to change/fix15:23
AcidRain2012ikonia: i wish to fix KDE it work15:24
cfhowlett!nomodeset | tata, you might need to reconfigure graphics15:24
ubottutata, you might need to reconfigure graphics: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:24
cfhowletttata, also ... 10.04?  upgrade!  14.0415:24
ikoniaAcidRain2012: ok - so how are you going to fix kde ?15:24
AcidRain2012main goal: reinstall KDE and ALL of its packages from scratch. clean install. Plan B: just use gnome2. Plan C: (hopefully we dont make it this far), use winxp15:24
ikoniaAcidRain2012: what's your plan/approach15:24
ikoniaAcidRain2012: why are you going to re-install the kde packages15:25
AcidRain2012ikonia: because, kde is broken...15:25
AcidRain2012how else would i fix it?15:25
ikonia AcidRain2012 that doesn't mean re-install the packages15:25
ikoniaAcidRain2012: you're using 12.10 correct ?15:25
AcidRain2012yes.15:25
user123321Is upgrading the linux kernel to a newer version than the official ubuntu released advisable?15:25
ikoniaAcidRain2012: ok - why not take this oppertunity to install kubuntu 14.0415:25
user123321release*15:25
AcidRain2012because i have too much stuff to loose15:26
ikoniaAcidRain2012: you get onto a supported version - the latest kde and you get a working kde install15:26
cfhowlettAcidRain2012, this ^^^ 14.04 lubuntu!15:26
AcidRain2012and i have a bad experience with the "upgrade" button15:26
ikoniaAcidRain2012: don't upgrade15:26
ikoniado a clean install15:26
AcidRain2012:(15:26
AcidRain2012i refuse15:26
ikoniawhy ?15:26
AcidRain2012ikonia: i have 5yrs of work on this computer.15:26
ikoniawhat's the issue ?15:26
ikoniaback it up15:26
ikoniaAcidRain2012: you should be backing it up anyway I assume15:26
AcidRain2012if kde will just work. or i can get to gnome2, ill be extremely happy15:26
cfhowlettAcidRain2012, bad upgrade?  image how sad you'll be when you a security violation since you no longer get security updates.15:26
AcidRain2012i have like 20 servers man. its too much configuration15:27
AcidRain2012i use some packages that were hard to get working on ubuntu 1215:27
AcidRain2012like icecast15:27
AcidRain2012ices215:27
AcidRain2012just a small example15:27
siwicaI just installed Passenger which is a Ruby server. I was instructed to create "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list" and to secure it via:15:28
siwicasudo chown root: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list15:28
siwicasudo chmod 600 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list15:28
siwicasudo apt-get update15:28
siwicaNow I am getting the error:15:28
ikoniaAcidRain2012: your best bet is to install 14.04 clean - get a clean machine restore your work15:28
tataok, thank you15:28
cfhowlettAcidRain2012, so you have servers that are unsecured?  gotta say, you might be a cool guy, but I wouldn't hire you.  you are knowingly running unsupported systems!15:28
siwicaE:Opening /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list -ifstream::ifstream (13: Permission denied)15:28
siwicawhy is that?15:28
somsipsiwica: try chmod 644 - that's what mine are in there15:29
AcidRain2012these servers arent rly for public use15:29
AcidRain2012they are for me15:29
AcidRain2012and i would prefer not to spend another month installing them.15:29
TotsWhat the command to change ownership of a directory and all files?15:29
cfhowlettTots, chmod15:30
somsipTots: chown -R {user} {dir}15:30
somsipTots: thats "all files and dirs recursively"15:30
AcidRain2012how to start unity from terminal?15:30
ikoniaAcidRain2012: all the more reason to go onto a long term suport release like 14.04 with 5 years of support15:30
tataI dont want to upgrade 10.4, because, unity desktop is not for me15:30
AcidRain2012ikonia: i guess i will do an upgrade. but first. i have to backup15:30
cfhowletttata, lubuntu, xubuntu kubuntu, ubuntu-gnome ... NONE of those run unity15:30
jim_hello,i have ubuntu with gnome installed.....64 bit the lastest lts release..so when i had unity i had installed the amd radeon drivers and they worked fine..but when i installed gnome (because i didnt liked unity)and after trying installing the ati adrivers they didnt work...no effects on compiz either!help!15:30
ikoniaAcidRain2012: you can't, you already have X working15:30
running_rabbit07tata, there is a flashback gnome in ubuntu 14.0415:30
AcidRain2012getting to a user interface is needed15:30
ikoniaAcidRain2012: do not do an upgrade15:30
ikoniaAcidRain2012: your system is not in a good state15:31
ikoniaAcidRain2012: getting to a user interface is not needed to backup / restore15:31
AcidRain2012ikonia: i mean ill do a cd fresh install of 1415:31
AcidRain2012x is not working15:31
tataok15:31
ikoniayou have X already running15:31
AcidRain2012im looking at a terminal window only. and says x failed to initialize15:31
ikoniaAcidRain2012: X is working15:31
ikoniayour desktop is not working15:31
ikoniathats not what you said15:31
ikoniayou said the desktop was failing to load15:31
ikoniathat means X11 is running, you just didn't get KDE15:32
siwicasomsip: thanks, I'll try that15:32
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AcidRain2012how do i launch unity from terminal?15:36
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tewardAcidRain2012, `sudo unity &` I think, forks it into the background15:40
tewardAcidRain2012, but unless you really need to do this, there's no need to really run Unity from terminall15:41
pbxwhen i right-click on an image in Files, it offers firefox but not chrome for viewing. how do i change that?15:45
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espadrine1Hi, My google skills have failed me, anyone know if theres a site that details differences between ubuntu and debian? (For example default installed packages)15:46
AcidRain2012can someone please just tell me how to start unity from terminal?15:47
AcidRain2012sudo serivce gnome-shell start doesnt work15:47
AcidRain2012says package not installed15:47
pbxAcidRain2012, what WM/DE is running?15:48
AcidRain2012lightdm15:48
AcidRain2012i cannot use sudo service lightdm start. its loads a broken KDE15:48
pbxespadrine1, it's possible there are some answers for you here -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian15:49
espadrine1Thanks I'll take a look15:51
jim_so what d you guys recommend to do?15:52
geirhaand unity should certainly NOT be run with sudo15:52
AcidRain2012geirha: i ONLY want it to work for now. i wish to upgrade to ubuntu 1415:53
AcidRain2012i want this damn terminal window to go away and get some gUI15:53
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AmpelbeinAcidRain2012: You can select the session to use in lightdm, if your KDE environment is broken, just select the unity session?15:55
pussygladiatorhey, are there any packages on ubuntu for installer for wiping ubuntu and installing another OS over it?15:55
netlarI want to create my own help file for Ubuntu, where is a good place to start.  I want it to be viewed on the help system inside ubuntu15:55
MonkeyDustpussygladiator  boot from live dvd or usb, use gparted to delete ubuntu, install somdething else15:55
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pussygladiatorits a vps15:56
geirhaAcidRain2012: well, sudo will just make things worse. Are you sure the ubuntu-desktop package is installed?15:56
tewardpussygladiator, if it's a VPS then your VPS provider should be able to do it, contact them15:56
pussygladiatorthey said they wouldnt15:56
pussygladiatorlol15:56
pussygladiatorwhat a pain in the ass15:56
pussygladiatorbut they said I can do it myself15:56
pussygladiatorbut its a bitch15:57
tewardpussygladiator, then you're out of luck.  please mind your language here, this is a family-friendly channel15:57
teward!language | pussygladiator15:57
ubottupussygladiator: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:57
Ampelbeinpussygladiator: What vps provider is this?15:57
pussygladiatorlol sorry15:57
pussygladiatorits a $12 dedicated server from online.net15:57
AcidRain2012geirha: yes15:58
AcidRain2012geirha: how do i make lightdm load unity instead of kde?15:58
pussygladiatorBut how can I install an OS over ubuntu from the desktop?15:58
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MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  lightdm remembers your last choice15:59
AcidRain2012my last choice is kde15:59
AcidRain2012i want to switch it to unity15:59
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  ok, then change it to unity/ubuntu15:59
AcidRain2012how?16:00
root1exit16:00
Ampelbeinpussygladiator: You generally can't do this from a running install.16:00
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  by clicking on the gnome symbol16:00
AmpelbeinAcidRain2012: Is lightdm set to auto-login?16:00
AcidRain2012MonkeyDust: i dont have that16:00
tewardpussygladiator, unless you have the ability to overwrite the OS from some kind of console interface or graphical web control interface you'd have to have physical access to the machine, there might be a control panel that can do that on their site.  but you generally can't do this from a running install like Ampelbein said16:00
AcidRain2012lightdm is indeed auto logging in16:00
AlexPortableCan I use unetbootin for cd's?16:00
AlexPortableinstead of usb sticks16:00
AcidRain2012stopping that would help16:00
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  did you you install kubuntu only?16:00
AcidRain2012i am using ubuntu16:00
AcidRain2012kubuntu-desktop is not installed. BUT, lightdm boots into kde16:00
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  you lost me, is it ubuntu/unity or kubuntu/kde16:01
alinmearhey guys. i am currently using a dell laptop with a port replicator. how can i disable the automatic screen detection, when putting my worksation into the dock?16:01
AcidRain2012ubuntu/kde16:01
AcidRain2012lol16:01
AcidRain2012i am having some serious issues right now16:01
xanguaAlexPortable: just burn as image, also ubuntu doesn't fit on a cd you need a dvd16:01
AmpelbeinAcidRain2012: On the konsole, "sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf", put a "#" in front of the autologin-user* lines, then restart lightdm16:02
alinmearon kde there is the display-daemon, which can be easily disabled, but what is it on ubuntu with unity?16:02
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  how did kde get there?16:02
AlexPortablexangua: my current OS is not ubuntu. How can I burn it to cd?16:02
xanguaburn iso as image AlexPortable16:02
AlexPortablexangua: what do you mean?16:02
AmpelbeinAlexPortable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto16:02
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  how did you install ubuntu in the first place?16:02
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  ^^^^16:03
AcidRain2012Ampelbein: it worked!16:04
AcidRain2012thankjs!16:04
Ampelbeinyw16:04
AcidRain2012im going to start downloading ubuntu 14 and backing up now16:04
rgouveiahello ... in 14.04 and also 14.10 after grub i get a black screen until some messages about swap appear then i get the graphical login. this is an acer laptop with intel gpu. any thoughts ?16:04
MonkeyDustrgouveia  14.10 is not ready, any reason you are trying to boot it? support for 14.10 in #ubuntu+116:05
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rgouveiaMonkeyDust: i thought i gave it a spin and help seeing it will be next release. so you recommend that i  head to ubuntu+1 ?16:06
MonkeyDustrgouveia  for 14.10 yes16:07
MonkeyDustrgouveia  hint: use a virtual machine to test new releases16:07
jbeezany of you guys familiar with plymouth to show a boot splash in ubuntu?16:07
rgouveiaMonkeyDust: it's more fun like this ;-) thx16:08
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AcidRain2012i wish to backup the full filesystem EXCLUDING all external drives. how can i do this?16:09
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AcidRain2012i wish to backup to /media/Server2/Backups/Full Backup/16:10
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iptabletortib, why must I issue STARTTLS command first to email you16:11
iptabletortib, ?16:11
tortibiptable: wat16:11
tortiboh shit16:11
tortibone second16:11
iptabletortib, the rest of the world is accepting unencrypted email ;)16:12
DaZunfortunately :v16:12
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AmpelbeinAcidRain2012: rsync -avz --exclude '/media/*' / /media/Server2/Backups/.... ?16:12
tortibiptable: hmmm it should work16:12
jim_is there any way to make the amd ati driver to work on gnome?16:12
tortibi can send from gmail to my domain without problems.16:12
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jim_it worked on unity but it refuses to work on gnome16:12
AmpelbeinAcidRain2012: "man rsync" so you can see what the options mean16:12
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AcidRain2012Ampelbein: ill try that16:12
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MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  disconnect/unmount the external drives16:13
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tortibiptable: any idea how I can disable that on postfix? :\16:14
iptabletortib, testing agian. just wanted to say I remember about your request and will have it in 2-3 days, but it's still broken16:14
iptabletortib, see my PM16:14
AcidRain2012cache_alignment    : 6416:15
AcidRain2012does this mean 64 bit?16:15
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AlexPortableAcidRain2012: 64 bit cache alignment? i thought cache was in MB not in bit16:18
AcidRain2012im trying to determine which versino of ubuntu 14 i need16:19
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  sudo dmidecode --type 4 ... the last line16:20
AcidRain2012CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit16:21
AcidRain2012so i need a 64bit ubuntu 1416:21
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  sudo dmidecode --type 416:21
TotsWhen I mount a harddrive with a specific name, do I have to eveery time, change the owner of that drive so people acn use it?16:21
TotsI did a mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd  and I'd like users to have access to it but chown -R username /mnt/hdd won't change owner16:22
AcidRain2012yep. 64 bit capable16:22
zeorinHi all, I'm getting some weird DNS behaviour. I can't reach inc.com. It seems like my local dns implementation (which is still dnsmasq--I didn't change anything) is answering for it with 127.0.0.116:23
AcidRain2012http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso  this is what im getting16:23
Totswhen I do verbose, it says things changed, but hwen I double check, they haven't16:23
zeorinFirst noticed it in the browser, and then I double-checked using dig16:24
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  ubuntu.com/downloads16:24
zeorinthere's no authority section in the response, though16:25
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AlexPortableSero|Away: why are you away?16:26
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MonkeyDust!away > Sero|Away16:28
ubottuSero|Away, please see my private message16:28
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rawrmonsterIs there a way in ubuntu to prioritize types of network traffic?16:31
bazhang!info wondershaper16:34
ubottuwondershaper (source: wondershaper): Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-6 (trusty), package size 14 kB, installed size 76 kB16:34
TotsHow do I set permissions when mounting a partition? It keeps making root only have access to the partition e.o16:34
wuschLOR1I accidentially changed the rights to my / and now can't access the sudoers file. Upon restart the machine won't start up properly any more.16:35
cn28hTots: what file system? you may be able to specify -o uid=<myuid>,gid=<mygid> to map it16:36
zeorinwuschLOR1: was it a recursive change?16:37
AcidRain2012now that is what im talking about damn it16:38
AcidRain2012doing a full backup of the whole system16:38
AcidRain2012cant mess that up16:38
wuschLOR1zeorin: What does recursive mean? It was by accidentaly hitting enter after sudo chown -hR [user] /16:38
AcidRain2012wuschLOR1: whatever you do. dont reboot. i had done this one time16:39
zeorinthat is recursive. Recursive means that it does it not only on the target, but also on the files and subfolders inside16:39
AcidRain2012there IS a way to restore permissions to the /16:39
zeorinyes, don't reboot16:39
wuschLOR1zeorin: too late. Wasn't smart.16:40
AcidRain2012wuschLOR1: you rebooted and got back into the system?16:41
wuschLOR1acidrain2012: I rebooted and at the point where it should be showing me the login-screen it shows a black screen, mouse being cursor-like but I can't input anything.16:42
zeorinwuschLOR1: if you managed to get back into the system, you *could* still save it16:42
AcidRain2012wuschLOR1: fail16:42
zeorinwuschLOR1: but it's a serious effort16:42
AcidRain2012wuschLOR1: my personal advice is to remove that drive. install ubuntu on another drive. then recover what you need from that drive.16:43
AcidRain2012im no expert. but that will work16:43
zeorinwuschLOR1: AcidRain2012's advice is the easier way.16:43
wuschLOR1AcidRain2012: Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll do that then.16:44
AcidRain2012wuschLOR1: i would imagine anything other than what i have suggested would require something like a 0day hack.16:44
wuschLOR1zeorin: If you can point me into the direction of how to recover it, that would be of great help. I know so little that I wouldn't even know what to search for...16:44
zeorinwuschLOR1: the other way is to create a new Ubuntu installation, try and remember which programs you had installed, install them, then run a script to discover for each file on the whole system what the permissions/ownerships were; then boot your old system with a liveCD, chroot into it's root env, and run the script in reverse to apply all the permissions again16:45
zeorinIt's probably too much hassle, and imprecice16:45
zeorinlook here for how to actually do that, if you're *very* brave https://superuser.com/questions/132891/how-to-reset-folder-permissions-to-their-default-in-ubuntu-9-10/356946#35694616:46
wuschLOR1zeorin: That does sound like I'd have too many chances to mess it up. Thanks for the help, anyway! I'll try AcidRain2012's approach.16:46
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AcidRain2012zeorin: when i had messed up and recursively changed ownership of /. someone had provided me with a permissions file that contained every permission to every file on the system. at least enough to make it quickly recoverable long enough to backup what i needed and reinstall16:46
AcidRain2012regardless. i believe a reinstall is needed to avoid future issues. even if you got it working just 'ok'16:47
zeorinI think recursively messing up the permissions is like a rite of passage ;)16:47
zeorinWe all do it--once--at some point16:47
AcidRain2012lol16:48
wuschLOR1AcidRain2012: So zeorin's aproach is only useful if I really need to recover more than my /home directory?16:48
AcidRain2012its what you have to do to be a normal linux user16:48
AcidRain2012wuschLOR1: both approaches are if you wish to recover everything that you wish16:48
wuschLOR1considering myself successfully hazed, then. Thanks ;)16:48
zeorinwuschLOR1: yes. If you only want to recover the data on your /home partition, just boot a liveCD, and back that data up, then reinstall from scratch16:48
AcidRain2012as long as you dont accidentally do a delete /, you should be ok16:48
zeorinI had this problem on a server *blushes*16:49
nomicwhere are the last updates list of updates held?16:49
* AcidRain2012 hides face16:49
AcidRain2012im doing a 80gig backup of my / right now16:49
Toaster_StrudelI haven't done this sinec xorg.. My screen resolution is stuck at 640x48016:49
zeorinhad to try it the hard way--worked, too. Occasionally got a message about sudoers ownership after, but they were easy fixes as they happened.16:49
Toaster_StrudelI dont see any options to change it.. Vbox guest addons are installed16:50
MonkeyDustnomic  /var/log/dpkg.log16:50
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AcidRain2012oh sorry17:01
AcidRain2012i had said ealier it was monolight i was using for netflix. its actually pipelight17:02
AcidRain2012i see it now while doing a full system bsackup :D17:02
cheeseboyAcidRain2012, you can use html5 now17:02
cheeseboyno need sulverlight17:02
Toaster_StrudelWhy am I stuck in 640x480?17:03
AcidRain2012yea ill get to that after this backup is done and ive installed ubuntu 1417:03
AcidRain2012though ubuntu is making me mad. i feel like they force an updated upon me after the EOL of every LTS release17:03
AcidRain2012i dont see why ubuntu doesnt just keep updating packages for security, rather than making a whole new release17:04
MonkeyDustToaster_Strudel  maybe you have to give more memory to your display17:04
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  what you want is a rolling release, then17:04
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  that's been discussed and not approved17:05
Toaster_StrudelMonkeyDust: I'll try it out thanks17:05
wuschLOR1I'm running Kubuntu from a live stick in order to backup my /home partition. However, I can access neither the /home/user nor my backup partition on an external drive. It coould be they're all encrypted. Any hints on how to achieve a backup?17:05
AcidRain2012MonkeyDust: a rolling release? where do i get such hax from?17:07
FSMaxBHi. Can anyone tell me the boot parameter to set the keyboard layout for Ubuntu livecds? ( not pressing F3 and selecting it, I need the actual parameter )17:08
schhabhey all17:08
MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/412872/rolling-release-in-ubuntu17:08
schhabneed help with Nvidia display drivers17:09
AcidRain2012lmao17:09
AcidRain2012the answer is simply: "No."17:09
FSMaxBDoes anyone now the livecd bootparameter for setting the keyboard layout?17:10
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MonkeyDustAcidRain2012  ow you know you're not the first to ask17:11
schhabany clue on how to reset the display properties, i cant get to desktop17:15
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Boscop_hi. I upgraded ubuntu to 14.04 but now i can't boot anymore. it says pcmcia error17:18
TotsIf I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04 with xfce4, how can I auto-login as a certain user?17:18
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Boscop_http://www.mirari.fr/Edi3.jpg17:19
MonkeyDustBoscop_  a pcmcia card is old technology, didnt know it still existed17:19
tsarHi! I've got a problem with gamepad and wheel. I might have broken something and now even evtest doesn't see them, and I can't use them in games. How can I dig into this problem?17:20
MonkeyDusttsar  how is that ubuntu related?17:21
tsarMonkeyD, well, it's a problem I've encountered in Ubuntu.17:22
alanjfWhat is the safest way to clear out entries in the status file that have "Status: purge ok not-installed" ? Is it ok to manaually edit them out since they represent packages that were unistalled ?17:22
MonkeyDustalanjf  try    sudo aptitude purge '~c'17:22
MonkeyDustalanjf  first do   sudo aptitude search '~c'17:23
alanjfMonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll try that.17:24
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MonkeyDustalanjf  something else i picked up here... dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P17:29
alanjfMonkeyDust: Isn't dpkg -P what leaves those entries in status in the first place?17:30
hunkischhi guys..17:31
decwrlAnyone have any experience setting up kernel dumps (kdump-tools)?  I'm trying to set this up on 14.04.  Works fine in a VM, doesn't work on an HP Proliant DL360G8.17:31
samthewildonequestion, just shot a video on my phone how do I flip the video in vlc ?17:32
hunkischanyone know how to get xcode on ubuntu?17:32
samthewildoneI know I can flip images but what about videos ?17:32
DJones[A[B17:32
samthewildonenever mind found it17:33
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zero_coderhi, after using wine to play games. my screen resolution changed to something else17:44
zero_coderhow can i reset it back17:45
labsinzero_coder, In settings > screen. I don't know how to do it automaticly17:47
sputnik13hi, running 12.04.4 LTS with trusty HWE, for some reason my kernel is being held back to 3.13.0.32.2817:49
sputnik13I need to update to 3.13.0.35.30 or later17:50
sputnik13apt-cache policy says 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for 3.13.0.35.3017:50
sputnik13anyone know how to resolve this?17:50
WeiJunLican someone help me with this error - http://bpaste.net/show/a84011a39487     (when i run an .exe file)17:51
RoBo_Vguys im trying to install ubuntu on 54GB (Primary) alongside windows 8. I think 50GB is enough right? Secondly, it asking for bootloader instlaation - drive has to be same where winods loader is located ?17:52
RoBo_Vwindows*17:52
pbxWeiJunLi, what .exe file? Has it ever worked?17:53
WeiJunLipbx: i am trying to run a program, it is works in windows17:54
WeiJunLiits the first time i am trying to run it in ubuntu17:54
sputnik13ugh bleh, nevermind, figured it out17:54
MonkeyDustsputnik13  try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-trusty17:55
pbxWeiJunLi, were you led to believe it would run under ubuntu? what kind of preparation did you do?17:55
sakamopRoBo_V: Well, Ubuntu would run fine on 6 GB but you'd need to be carefuly about what you downloaded. I recommen anything over 16 GB. I'm using a chromebook with ubuntu and a 16 GB SSD. It's fine.17:55
sputnik13MonkeyDust: it ended up being apt-get dist-upgrade17:55
WeiJunLipbx: well I dont know... I have other exe files running without problems why this cant work?17:55
pbxWeiJunLi, i have no idea what the code is so i have no idea what its chances of working are.  i think your best bet is to look for someone else who has run this specific executable under ubuntu.17:57
WeiJunLipbx: you cant identify the problem by seeing the error?17:58
cpinedHello, I used gparted to delete my windows OS, leaving only my Ubuntu OS.  How can I claim that 15 gigs to Ubuntu?  I don't want it as a separate volume.17:58
pbxWeiJunLi, i don't know anything about windows.   i think you are going to need to take a more active role in researching how/whether this program can run on ubuntu.  try searching for information about this specific program17:59
running_rabbit07WeiJunLi, if you are using Wine to run your exe, then you may find better help at #wine17:59
pbxand yeah, what the rabbit said :)17:59
WeiJunLirunning_rabbit07: you mean #winehq - thats the most dead channel i have ever seen18:00
running_rabbit07The folks there helped me the other day. WeiJunLi18:01
RoBo_Vsakamop: ok thanks18:02
running_rabbit07Personally, if you have a bunch of MS software you need to run and can't find a linux alternative, then maybe Windows is the way to go. WeiJunLi18:02
sakamopWeiJunLi: Which program is this? Someone else might have documented the issue.18:06
qwerkusGiven all the random freeze I experienced, I decided to do a clean reinstall to try to figure out the problem. Turns out I can't even do this: the (gui) installation script keeps crashing. Is there a way to install via liveCD in txt mode ?18:14
darksisHello i need please help about error i get how i can fix this please18:15
darksis libpq++.h18:15
pbxdarksis, use a pastebin to share the error text18:15
darksischecking for libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h18:15
darksiswhen i try configure something i get this message18:16
pbxand include context.  what specifically were you trying to do? share the terminal session via pastebin, including your commands and the resulting errors18:16
darksisok but how i fix this?18:16
darksissomething command?18:17
pbxdarksis, i'm not holding any secret information, i'm trying to help you ask a question that will get good answers18:17
darksisok18:18
darksisi try run something and i get error everytime18:18
darksisi happy to know how i can fix this please18:19
darksispbx?18:20
kbennett4what has happened to package manager18:21
RoBo_VGuys, swap space neccessary, have 8GB ram ?18:21
pbxdarksis, read what i wrote.  use a pastebin to give us a complete copy of the terminal session, including what command you ran and what errors resulted.  give lots of context. then wait.18:21
pbxkbennett4, please be more specific18:21
Lunariohow can I configure my ubuntu ssh server to use / as a starting directory when I access it from other clients, instead of using /home/username ?18:21
akishi, please take a look at my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/8225628/18:22
kbennett4none of software in it appeare y more18:22
djdr1988anyone here familiar with wine? Or do I need to go to another channel?18:24
llutzLunario: you could add "cd /"  to ~/.bashrc  (whyever you want that)18:25
phylockdjdr1988 - its possible, ask away18:25
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djdr1988i just installed wine, I am new to all of this linux stuff, I tried doing a web search on how to use it, but I only found help on older version of wine. I can't figure out how to Install a program through it,I have added a program to wine, but it doesnt run installer or store it18:26
Lunariollutz: Thanks. But at which part of the .bashrc file do I have to add cd /?18:26
llutzLunario: at the end18:27
LunarioOk, will try18:27
darksispbx18:27
darksistake18:27
darksishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8225661/18:27
blackangelprdjdr1988, Try play on linux  more easy to start with18:27
blackangelprdjdr1988, http://www.playonlinux.com/en/18:27
djdr1988does it do the same as wine?18:28
bpromptRoBo_V:     depends on what you;d be running.. I have 6gbs... and have a 1.2gbs swap file, but likely I may not use it most of the time.... however if say running vbox or some other app that may require more resources... then a swap file can come in handy18:28
phylockdjdr1988 - its a wine frontend18:28
blackangelprdjdr1988,  yes more easy with a nice gui18:28
djdr1988ok. I will give it a try. Thanks guys18:28
pbxdarksis, read what i wrote. you didn't include what command you ran.  you didn't give any information about what you are trying to do.18:28
RoBo_Vbprompt: ty, I will give it 2GB18:28
phylockdjdr1988 - else take a look at www.winehq.org, https://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/running-wine18:29
Lunariollutz: Do I have to restart the machine afterwards?18:29
Lunariobecause so far nothing has changed18:30
Beldardjdr1988, Might help to know of the #winehq channel, as well wine has limitations, personally I would dual boot windows for use of some things.18:31
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WeiJunLiI installed wine32 but I've another wine by default which may be 64bit, how can I run a program using the wine32?18:32
djdr1988i was going to, but after windows crashed on this laptop, i have been unable to reinstall windows, it keeps freezing install. I was able to get ubuntu working with a little help on this channel18:32
llutzLunario: just login again via ssh18:32
blackangelprWeiJunLi, wine channel #winehq as Beldar mention18:33
Beldardjdr1988, If you have a legit activation key, MS will get you a install discs at a small price, and even a new key if needed.18:33
djdr1988ok, I will have to contact them and see what they will do. Thank You18:34
blackangelprnew laptops have the serial on chips on the mother board just download the iso and install windows they do not even ask for serial since its on the board :P weird but it happened to me already while helping some one18:35
djdr1988How do I figure out the version name of ubuntu I am running?18:35
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  cat /etc/issue18:35
djdr1988MonkeyDust: Im not sure what that means. Im still new to linux18:35
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  open a terminal, then type that18:36
blackangelprcrlt +alt+ t18:36
blackangelprthen ctrl +shift +v18:36
djdr1988ok, so as far as knowing which playonlinux to download, as far as trusty or saucy....how do i know which one it is?18:37
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  saucy is dead, so it must be trusty (or precise for 12.04)18:37
blackangelprUbuntu 14.04 LTS18:38
blackangelpr18:38
blackangelprTrusty Tahr18:38
blackangelpr18:38
blackangelprRel18:38
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  so what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue18:38
blackangelpr18:38
unopasteblackangelpr you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted18:38
djdr1988it is 14.04.1 LTS18:38
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  great, that's trusty18:39
djdr1988ok. Thank You18:39
blackangelprdjdr1988, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases18:39
Lunariollutz: Is there also a way to do the same thing for my sftp server?18:41
djdr1988when typing in the commands to download playonlinux, in one of the lines, it shows a vertical line seperating a section of code, how do I do that? I dont think its lowercase L or I18:41
blackangelpr|  ?18:43
llutzLunario: idk, you might look at the ChrootDirectory option in sshd_config maybe18:43
djdr1988yes18:43
blackangelprshift + \18:43
blackangelprtop key of enter18:43
Lunarioalright18:43
blackangelprif you have a english keyboard18:43
pbxis there a way to bring all of an application's windows forward at once?18:45
pbx(in unity)18:45
MildreathHii guys!! :*18:46
* AcidRain2012 hits alt+tab in gnome218:46
blackangelpr(O_O) not that i know :P you can ask18:46
AcidRain2012idk how to do it in unity18:46
blackangelprhi there Mildreath18:46
Mildreathhehe How are you?? Blackangelpr18:46
pbxalt-tab lets me select an application, but only foregrounds one of its windows if it has several open18:47
chan89alt-`18:47
blackangelprMildreath, great thanks :) watching a sc2 tournament and the chat :)18:47
Mildreathaah ok18:48
pbxchan89, alt-` lets me flip through previews of the open windows, but when one is chosen only that one is brought forward18:48
chan89hmm yeah pbx..18:48
MildreathNadie que quiera charlar??18:50
blackangelprMildreath, envia en privado :P18:51
MildreathAh ok18:51
davidrsmorrisChrooted into system broken mid-release-upgrade.  Can't get all the tex related packages uninstalled, and they're hanging up the update.  How do I tell the system to remove packages with a missing dependency?18:51
blackangelprdavidrsmorris, http://askubuntu.com/questions/263378/how-to-fix-dependencies-broken-packages18:57
blackangelprdavidrsmorris, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html18:57
blackangelprhope it helps18:57
adama_slt18:59
asher1help please19:00
blackangelprasher1, where is the question ?19:01
davidrsmorrisdoes anyone know what display manager 14.04 is supposed to use?19:01
blackangelprX19:02
blackangelprmir is still not deployed on any LTS19:02
adama_slhygjghy19:02
blackangelpri guess you use ubuntu since you are on the chat19:02
asher1about my question is i have problem with something i try to install and i get error19:02
blackangelpradama_,  ??19:02
Beldardavidrsmorris, compiz if unity19:03
asher1and this error what i get19:03
asher1checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables19:03
Beldarasher1, How are you installing?19:04
AcidRain2012NetSplit Detected: *.net *.split.19:04
adama_yes i now19:04
AcidRain2012lol. that full system backup i started a few hrs ago is still going on19:05
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blackangelprAcidRain2012, it worth it :)19:05
BeldarAcidRain2012, keep it to support please, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat19:05
asher1i install something for ircd19:06
AcidRain2012i was stating that incase anyone needed full system backup support19:06
asher1and i get error from configure19:06
BeldarAcidRain2012, That is not how the channel works, you know that.19:06
AcidRain2012;)19:06
Beldarasher1, Have you checked if your install is in the ubuntu repos?19:07
asher1yes19:07
jeniaI need to know this, its off topic please forgive me: x by y, is x the width or the height usually?19:07
Beldarasher1, And was it?19:07
asher1its look everything is ok19:07
asher1and when i configure what i need19:07
asher1i  get error19:07
AcidRain2012x is width19:07
jeniathanks19:07
asher1about C19:07
AcidRain2012asher1: what error?19:07
asher1checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables19:07
AcidRain2012perhaps you dont have C compiler installed?19:07
asher1this19:07
asher1error19:08
asher1C compiler19:08
asher1and i run C compiler19:08
AcidRain2012checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables19:08
AcidRain2012http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/checking-for-c-compiler-default-output-configure-error-c-compiler-cannot-create-183861/19:08
djdr1988how do you format a usb drive in ubuntu?19:09
CydroboltHi19:10
pussygladiatorIs there anyway I can tell the terminal to shutdown and boot to a specific iso19:10
AcidRain2012djdr1988: i suggest gparted19:10
CydroboltIs there a way to access root if I disabled password auth and my RSA key is not working?19:10
pussygladiatorwithout cutting me out of ssh19:10
djdr1988thank you19:10
jostCydrobolt: Usually that is a case for accessing a rescue terminal the hoster provides19:11
AcidRain2012djdr1988: if you just like the terminal: http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-format-usb-drive-in-the-terminal/19:11
CydroboltOk19:11
asher1AcidRain201219:13
asher1i inside there but what i need to do?19:13
AcidRain2012depends on the error you got before the one you posted19:13
AcidRain2012are you running makefile?19:13
asher1yes19:13
asher1i try doing like this19:14
AcidRain2012just scroll up. and see why C couldnt compile19:14
asher1ohh19:15
asher1look19:16
asher1AcidRain201219:16
asher1./configure CC=c89 CFLAGS=-O2 LIBS=-lposix19:16
asher1i do this19:16
AcidRain2012asher1: what program are you trying to make?19:16
asher1Chanfix19:17
asher1this run19:17
asher1with sql19:17
asher1ircd19:17
ikoniac89 is not the compiler19:17
ikoniagcc is the compiler19:17
JoakimAi have searched around for a solution but i cant find it, how do you do the pipe sign | in ubuntu? i use it through virtualbox and noone of the standard commands works really :(19:17
asher1ok19:17
asher1how i write this?19:17
ikoniaJoakimA: it will depend on your keyboard map19:17
AcidRain2012asher1: why not just install it from repos?19:18
JoakimAIkonia: Using a swedish keyboard layout, but i have tried change the keyboard and stuff and still not working! :D19:18
ikoniaJoakimA: I have no idea about the swedish keyboard19:18
JoakimAIkonia: Thx anyway! :D19:19
yoyoblaJoakimA: Alt Gr + ><|?19:20
MonkeyDustJoakimA  to the left, next to the shift key https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#mediaviewer/File:ISO_keyboard_%28105%29_QWERTY_UK.svg19:20
asher1?19:20
JoakimAyoyobla: doesnt work. Already tried!19:21
JoakimAMonkeyDust: yeah tried all that stuff and it doesnt work! :D19:21
owner1anyone know how to create the .Xresources file at home?19:22
llutzowner1: nan ~/.Xresources19:22
llutzowner1: nano ~/.Xresources19:22
MonkeyDustJoakimA  how did you type it, before you started using ubuntu? do it the same way now19:23
owner1llutz: does that copy that file from /etc/X11 into ~/?19:23
llutzowner1: no, it creates a new if it doesn't exist, or edit the existing one19:23
owner1thx19:24
bpromptowner1:    or you can also just do a "touch ~/.Xresources"19:25
sereanyone know a good way to convert multiple images down to size19:27
davidrsmorrishey can someone on 14.04 paste me their  /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf ?19:27
JoakimAMonkeyDust: Yeah, i tries that like i did before ;-) nothing works really! :D19:30
AndChat|505161error: no such partition19:30
AndChat|505161entering rescue mode19:31
AndChat|505161grub rescue19:31
AndChat|505161please hell19:31
AndChat|505161help19:31
hasselmmhi, how to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 or 13.10 those days?19:32
ikoniahasselmm: what is the end release you want to get to 14.04 ?19:32
havarkaJoakimA which one, there are four?!19:32
hasselmmikonia: ehm... i've meant 14.0419:32
ikoniahasselmm: ok, if you're on 12.10 - I'd suggest doing a clean install19:32
ikoniahasselmm: upgrading through 2 EOL release, isn't something I personally believe is wise,19:33
ikoniaothers may disagree but I think there is too much change19:33
JoakimAhavarka: | alt gr+<> sign next to left shift19:33
havarkaJoakimA, what?19:33
hasselmmikonia: problem wiht EOL rather seems, that the repos got purged19:34
hasselmmat least for 12.1019:34
bpromptsere:    all I can think offhand is using imagemagick   in a bash script19:34
ObrienDavehasselmm, the repos are still there if you know where to look ;)19:34
ikoniahasselmm: thats not a real problem19:34
ikoniahasselmm: however I still advise not to upgrade through those releases personally19:34
JoakimAhavarka: nvm. found a solution. but it aint optimal ;-P19:35
ObrienDavehasselmm, clean install is a much better option19:35
havarkawhatever, so want it or not?19:35
serebprompt: ok i will look into that.. thanks19:36
bpromptsere:    http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php19:36
serebprompt: thank you19:36
hasselmmuch, her answer: an embarassed "NO! not gonna happen!"19:36
bpromptsere:   is installed, I gather with imagemagick... since it shows in bash for me :)19:36
ObrienDavehasselmm, who's answer?19:37
hasselmmObrienDave: my wife's answer to fresh install19:38
hasselmm(after her running a non-LTS release and not following updates)19:38
ObrienDavetell her it's safer than doing 3 upgrades19:38
hasselmm(i really should suggest her to install windows ME - with that attitude :-p)19:38
hasselmmObrienDave: she knows and says "NO!"19:39
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hasselmm:-(19:39
ObrienDaveoh well, her machine and security19:39
serebprompt: yea your right I already had it too..sweet :)19:39
Sindypong19:39
asher1?19:39
asher1someone19:39
hasselmmObrienDave: don't tell me. i am as shocked as you19:39
ObrienDavehasselmm, then do a do-release-upgrade 3 separate times in terminal. it will get her to 14.04 LTS19:42
MonkeyDustor type it 3 times in a row, separated by semicolons    (joke)19:43
hasselmmObrienDave: thanks a lot! let's cross our fingers that this works on her install and fixes her mood19:43
ObrienDavehasselmm, that will NEVER happen LOL (has been married twice) ;P19:44
hasselmmMonkeyDust: much still learn young padawan must about best wife of them all19:44
malkaunsfacebook down? :P19:47
uRockmalkauns, yup19:48
hasselmmmalkauns: i'd rather blame iwldvm :-D19:48
malkaunsiwldvm?19:48
hasselmmmalkauns: intel's wlan driver19:48
hasselmmmalkauns: that's what's usually broken for me, when network is gone19:49
malkaunslol19:49
hasselmmmalkauns: but i was joking. seems facebook really got bombed19:49
uRockI hope it stays down.19:50
Beldar+119:51
hasselmmuRock: and what... hope for people relearning social behavior and doing useful things with their time?19:51
uRockhasselmm, exactly19:51
llutzhasselmm: like waisting time in irc?19:51
PCPinjecti0nSo anyone know how to properly install Caffeine? The program that prevents your monitor from falling asleep.19:51
Beldarnever will happen but a nice dream19:51
PCPinjecti0nhey btw19:51
hasselmmllutz: IRC channels got some netiquette at least19:52
uRockhasselmm, true, how can one not be entertained while watching the ##windows channel19:53
ObrienDaveby watching #ubuntu-offtopic ;P19:53
hasselmmllutz: oh, an heard rumor of people on IRC helping others, but i believe that's greatly exaggerated. rumor.... ObrienDave, not? :-D19:54
hasselmmuRock: :-)19:54
ObrienDavehasselmm, not true, way too many snarky people on IRC ;P19:54
PCPinjecti0nAnyone use the Caffeine program? anyone19:54
hasselmm:-D19:54
PCPinjecti0n?19:54
ObrienDavePCPinjecti0n, just set it to never turn off, you don't need a program for that LOL19:55
godbodwhat's the topic ?19:55
uRockjust realized there is a #facebook19:55
ObrienDaveUbuntu SUPPORT19:55
hasselmmuRock: uh! let's head over!19:55
uRockhasselmm, I'm there19:55
ObrienDavegodbod, the topic of this channel is Ubuntu SUPPORT19:56
asher1help19:56
asher1please19:56
asher1configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH19:56
MonkeyDustgodbod  type /topic19:56
asher1what i do noww?19:57
MonkeyDustasher1  install gcc from the repos19:57
llutzasher1: sudo apt-get install build-essential19:57
PCPinjecti0nObrienDave: i've set that but it still dims after 5 minutes.19:59
PCPinjecti0nObrienDave: dunno what to do now....19:59
wmantly!balance20:00
ObrienDavecheck your screensaver settings20:00
djdr1988anyone have a good guide on how to install utorrent?20:01
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  ubuntu has deluge in the repos20:01
djdr1988MonkeyDust: what does that mean?20:02
MonkeyDustdjdr1988  that you can use deluge instead of utorrent20:02
cynicallemonjust use transmission for bt20:02
djdr1988oh. gotcha. ok thank you20:02
asher1i install this20:02
asher1i have20:02
ObrienDavedjdr1988, i like deluge20:02
djdr1988ObrienDave: I am installing it now. thank you20:03
adamcunningtonHi, I'm confused, I have 2 .sh files, I am executing them in the same way (./blah.sh from same directory), both have the same shebang line20:04
adamcunningtonyet 1 works and 1 gives permission denied. When i run the permission denied one with sudo, i get unknown command20:04
MonkeyDustadamcunnington  use chmod +x to make it executable20:04
adamcunningtonMonkeyDust: thanks20:05
guntbertadamcunnington: my guess - "permission denied" is the result from one line in the file20:05
adamcunningtonguntbert: MonkeyDust solved it20:05
yoyoblaHow do I make Ubuntu fully free?20:05
MonkeyDustyoyobla  meaning?20:05
ObrienDaveyoyobla, it is fully free20:05
suoreHello, need help20:06
uRock#ubuntu-offtopic20:06
yoyoblaMonkeyDust, ObrienDave: How do I get rid of all the non-free software that is included?20:06
boldfilter1Hey, anyway to use status bar icons different from the unity icons20:06
boldfilter1Use different set of icon on the status bar than what's on your unity/global icons20:07
bootstrappmhello!20:08
MonkeyDustyoyobla  use     sudo vrms     to find out what's non-free, then replace it with whatever you want20:08
PCPinjecti0nObrienDave: Ty! lets see if that worked!20:08
bootstrappmwhat MTA does cron use to send mail on trusty?20:08
ObrienDaveyoyobla, "free" means open source license. non-free means close source, not as in you have to pay for it20:10
Sindywww.superonline.eu20:10
bootstrappmcrons are failing on one of my our servers but I don't have visibility as to why. Doesn't seem to send the mail20:11
ttjhey guys quick question for you, i just installed ubuntu onto a 2nd HD, working fine but how to i get grub to see the windows thats on another HD?20:11
MonkeyDustbootstrappm  make sure you use absolute paths in the cronjobs, so no shortcuts like ~ or .20:12
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bootstrappmMonkeyDust, using absolute paths to a script that does more complex things20:13
bootstrappmMonkeyDust, need to capture the output of whats going wrong in that script20:13
yoyoblaObrienDave: Free means free software, not open source. Open source can be non-free software.20:13
Dev__Can I clone a library with its exact same code and credit for myself if its licensed under LGPL?20:14
ObrienDaveyoyobla, free means open-source as in your free to examine the code, modify it to your liking and release it as you see fit20:15
jostHi! I need some help with getting a remote sshd running again. I have root access using a recovery shell...20:15
asher1someone help20:16
asher1i do something stupid20:16
asher1sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gccXXX /usr/bin/gcc20:16
Dev__ObrienDave: was that answer for me?20:16
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asher1:S what is mean?20:16
llutzObrienDave: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html   /j #ubuntu-offtopic20:16
jostI did some changes to the sshd_config, after issuing a "service ssh restart" sshd stopped working. Can't find any helpful info for debugging the problem though20:16
asher1please help20:17
Dev__can i clone an lgpl library and release it?20:18
MonkeyDustasher1  ln -s creates a symbolic link20:18
WHAT_DOWNsomeone should make a texlive-all-useful package that contains texlive-full minus the documentation20:18
MagicSpudhello I want storybook pro and I get this? http://wordweb.ch/drehbuch-schreibprogramme-software.html20:18
ObrienDavellutz, tell the people asking to take it to OT20:18
asher1when i doing this i see something change20:18
MagicSpudhow come there is no ubuntu version of those alternatives?20:18
bootstrappmasher1, that's not that harmful, be calm. Looks like you tried to create a shortcut to your C/C++ compiler20:18
MagicSpudI almost finished my novel20:19
MagicSpudI need the fucking pro version now!20:19
asher1configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH20:19
asher1ok how i fix this20:19
Beldaryou need some medication20:19
asher1?20:19
MonkeyDustMagicSpud  great, but mind your language20:19
WHAT_DOWNMagicSpud: you get that because you didn't write it in latex20:20
bootstrappmasher1, first, why are you doing things you don't understand?20:20
MagicSpudlatex=20:20
MagicSpud?20:20
asher1no20:20
asher1i try to understand20:20
WHAT_DOWNMagicSpud: the document editor for real men20:20
asher1but no someone explain to me20:20
bootstrappmasher1, then ask before you do it20:20
bootstrappmasher1, second, do this: 'ls /usr/bin | grep gcc'20:20
tewardMagicSpud, keep yourlanguage family friendly please.20:21
xombithe document editor because Linux developers can't be bothered to Gui things?20:21
bootstrappmasher1, look for the one with the greatest version number20:21
xombialso, awkward pseudo-sexual Linux reference.20:21
bootstrappmasher1, what do you see?20:21
MagicSpudso latex is the deal?20:21
asher1c89-gcc20:21
asher1c99-gcc20:21
asher1gcc20:21
asher1gcc-4.420:21
asher1but this in read20:21
xombiJust wait unti you hear what the image editor on Linux is called and you'll understand.20:21
bootstrappmasher1, its supposed to be20:22
asher1ok20:22
WHAT_DOWNthere's a crappy visual latex editor (LyX), but just writing latex straight up is vastly superior to all wysiwyg word processors20:22
asher1ok i do what you say20:23
asher1what now?20:23
bootstrappmasher1, now: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.4 /usr/bin/gcc20:23
bootstrappmlet us now what you get20:23
bootstrappmknow*20:24
bootstrappmasher1, if that doesn't work you might want to just try: sudo apt-get purge gcc; sudo apt-get install gcc20:24
asher1ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/gcc': File exists20:24
bootstrappmasher1, hm. Try: gcc --version20:25
asher1ok20:25
asher1The program 'gcc' can be found in the following packages:20:26
asher1 * gcc20:26
bootstrappmasher1, now try: /usr/bin/gcc --version20:26
asher1gcc (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1) 4.4.320:26
M1kehi20:27
bootstrappmasher1, ok. That command you ran didn't do that. Your PATH is messed up20:27
bootstrappmasher1, do: echo $PATH20:27
alaynauh20:27
asher1only20:28
asher1echo $PATH20:28
asher1?20:28
bootstrappmasher1, yes20:28
bootstrappmasher1, what do you get?20:28
alaynaTHERE ARE ACTUALLY OTHER PEOPLE WITH THESE COMPUTERS20:28
alaynaWOW20:28
bootstrappmalayna, ??20:28
asher1./usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games20:28
xombicaps.20:28
asher1this i get20:28
asher1but i have more error20:29
bootstrappmash4, what are the errors?20:29
asher1libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h20:29
xombiI've been wondering where people draw the line for wisywig. html editors make sense. Well, HTML and other...things. Word processors, those make some sense as not wisywig. But then we'd never edit images that way.20:30
bootstrappmasher1, when do you get that error?20:30
asher1when i try configure something20:30
asher1i get error from terminal20:31
bootstrappmasher1, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about...what?20:31
bootstrappmasher1, did you fix the gcc thing?20:31
asher1about project20:31
asher1yes20:31
MagicSpudlatex requires to uninstall a lot of packages in my system forget about it20:31
asher1i fix this thanks20:31
MagicSpudhow could i get the story book pro?20:31
guitehi all, there is no way I can make my nvidia card work. I am trying to use nvidia-prime (prime-select) and my computer never accept to switch to the nvidia card. I tried to force it using update-alternatives and restarting lightdm but I have an error, here is the log => http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-13790120:34
guitethe error is ther => CRITICAL: x_server_local_get_authority_file_path: assertion 'server != NULL' failed20:34
xombiwow, Storybook is sure dead.20:34
guitemy ubuntu version: 14.0420:36
guiteuname -r : 3.13.0-35-generic20:36
TJ-MagicSpud: Did you look at the open-source continuation project, at http://ostorybook.sourceforge.net/20:38
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MagicSpudTJ- wow youre a finder!!!20:42
ObrienDavegoogle does wonders20:42
[L]ightMorning all.20:42
MagicSpudTJ- how do I open .bin files¿20:43
xombidon't you generally run those, or leave them alone?20:43
[L]ightMagicSpud: ./[file]20:43
ObrienDaveMagicSpud, http://www.getdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/14.04/?page=220:44
[L]ightMagicSpud: Might wanna assign executable permissions.20:44
MagicSpudI found this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-execute-a-run-or-bin-file-in-ubuntu20:44
Darylwhats a Ubuntu DNS Server do?20:44
MagicSpudand its troubling my mind20:44
xombiWhat's troubling about it?20:45
xombiOh, it's like an APK... it extracts itself and then runs.20:45
ryan-canyone know what rcu_sched is and why it's using a bunch of cpu time (along with two kworkers)?20:47
combobulatedALSA just broke for me after a kernel update. Anybody else?20:47
MagicSpudTJ- is that Storybook version better than the previous one? I feel handicapped with the actual one... it only admits a certain number of letters for chapter20:49
madjaathi20:51
uRockhi20:51
xombihi?20:52
madjaatDo you speak french?20:52
ObrienDavedo you?20:52
ObrienDave!fr | madjaat20:53
ubottumadjaat: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.20:53
uRockmadjaat, Je ne parle que l'anglais. Désolé.20:53
asher1bootstrappm?20:54
bootstrappmasher1, sorry bud had to get bacck to work. Ask your next issue here and maybe somebody else can help20:55
rainbowwarrioriptable : are you about ?20:55
uRock#24?20:56
TJ-MagicSpud: I have no idea; I simply located the Open Source continuation project for you20:57
asher1i do what you say to me20:57
asher1but i get the error20:57
MagicSpudTJ- yep I noticed...its just there is not much info in that page and I do need to run sudo to install it20:57
asher1this my error what i get20:58
asher1libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h20:58
rainbowwarriorHi , I installed Ubuntu 14.4  On my Western Digital Elements USB Drive , yet when I reboot nothing happens , how can I solve this please ?20:58
TJ-MagicSpud: The attached blog and the About History pages are quite detailed20:58
ObrienDaveMagicSpud, get the .deb here http://www.getdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/14.04/?page=220:59
_unreal_asher1,  are you using PostgreSQL21:00
asher1i have21:01
MagicSpudyep I tried but it opens with software center which tells me there is no package called ostorybook21:01
asher1bootstrappm?21:01
ObrienDavesoftware center needs to die a slow death along with WUBI21:02
asher1you see what i send?21:02
bootstrappmasher1, I can't help21:02
ObrienDaveMagicSpud, install gdebi21:02
ObrienDaveopen .deb with gdebi21:02
MagicSpudI did but how do I choose gdebi when I am asked to?21:02
MagicSpudI only can see my download folders21:03
TJ-asher1: What package are you attempting to build, and why?21:03
asher1why?21:03
_unreal_the reason I ask is because thats a required header file for PostgreSQL.21:03
ObrienDaveMagicSpud, right click .deb, open with, chose gdebi as default application21:04
ObrienDave*choose21:04
_unreal_I was wondering if you had removed it or done some kind of alteration21:04
_unreal_well regardless I have to go get my child21:04
asher1?21:04
asher1why you cant help me?21:04
asher1bootstrappm?21:04
littlebithi people, i have installed the latest xubuntu and have a question of how to stream the audio on 2 audio output devices21:05
MagicSpudObrienDave where the deb is? http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-execute-a-run-or-bin-file-in-ubuntu21:06
MagicSpudObrienDave i just clicked on the install now button21:06
_unreal_asher1, if your missing that header file re-install it.21:07
TJ-asher1: This channel is for support of Ubuntu and its packages; the questions you're asking would be more suitable in a programming channel21:07
SniperTonihi21:07
_unreal_and youy said you have used PostgreSQL, if you removed it try re-installing it.21:07
frodopwnshey guys, i have a vm with a strange encrypted entry in known_hosts, normally i see the ip and then "ssh-rsa" and the pub key, can anyone explain what might cause this to happen?21:07
ObrienDaveMagicSpud, where ever your browser saves the file to. i don't know where yours is21:07
_unreal_back in a while got to get the munchkin21:08
ObrienDaveyou're still here? LOL21:08
timg_hi is there a way to add a route ($route add) with a priority?21:08
TJ-timg_: A "metric"21:09
bootstrappmasher1, because you're asking for a series of problems that have available solutions on Google and because I'm at work working on stuff that should have been finished Monday ;)21:09
asher1ok21:10
asher1thanks my fried21:10
asher1friend21:10
timg_TJ-: thanks i try to google it, a vpn connection just stole a bunch of local ip's ....21:10
Paul_MyBBHi all, I'm having an issue with mounting USb drives21:11
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rainbowwarriorHi , has /boot/grub/device.map been changed in Ubuntu 14.04 as it seems to be missing ?21:13
frodopwnswhat would cause HashKnownHosts to be on by default for a new user?21:13
Bashing-omrainbowwarrior: It isn't required but can be used in Grub 2. One can create it if needed.21:15
rainbowwarriorBashing-om  : ok thank you21:17
TJ-frodopwns: It's set in "/etc/ssh/ssh_config" as a security measure21:17
rainbowwarriorHi , I installed Ubuntu 14.4  On my Western Digital Elements USB Drive , yet when I reboot nothing happens , how can I solve this please ?21:18
frodopwnsTJ-:  thanks21:20
Bashing-omrainbowwarrior: "yet when I reboot nothing happens" ?? not even an advisory from bios that "boot device not found" ??21:21
etronikhi all,  my ubuntu 14.04 login screen has changed image from the default one to a blue one... is this normal or expected ?21:22
etronikI don't recall having changed any of that ?21:22
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TJ-etronik: Is it the same background as the user has set?21:23
etronikTJ-, it's a different background from the default one from install that's what I can say21:23
timg_TJ-: seems that i cant set the "metric" on mac osx, do you know if it's up to the mtu?21:24
TJ-timg_: MTU has nothing to do with it21:24
etronikTJ-, I haven't logged out in a while, and when I saw the different background found it strange co's I did not change anything21:24
timg_TJ-: any good idea how to add a route on top of others on mac osx?21:25
TJ-etronik: lightdm will usually alter the background displayed according to which user name is being highlighted, if that user has a custom background set *and* is not using an encrypted home directory21:25
rainbowwarriorBashing-om , No ideas as my laptop screen is broke and I can no longer into my bios , so I am connected to an aoc aoc monitor via hdmi , I can run a live cd fine , but when it trys and loads from my USB drive it seems to be sitting there and i tried pressing enter just to see if it needed me to press anything21:25
TJ-timg_: Sorry, no, but I'd have thought as it uses basically the same tools as other *nixes, it should be able to do it21:25
etronikTJ-,  not the case... I had always my user highlighted21:26
etronikTJ-, and I don't have any other user besides guest21:26
Jon30how come I can no longer find wubi installer for windows? I went here but couldn't find any executables.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/21:26
TJ-etronik: Some recent package install/update may have altered it then21:26
TJ-rainbowwarrior: Does the laptop have a serial port? If so, you could have the console on it21:28
rainbowwarriorTJ : No21:29
Bashing-omrainbowwarrior: Maybe, when yo installed, grub got installed (default) to the hrad drive ? .. We can try and mount the usb drive fron terminal and see if grub's files are present on the USB drive .21:29
Jon30anybody?21:29
eeeerainbowwarrior: should still be able to access the bios on hdmi, boot the laptop, and press the button that lets it switch monitors21:30
rainbowwarrioreeee : there is no button on this laptop that switches it between monitors21:31
eeeerainbowwarrior: are you sure?21:31
rainbowwarriorBashing-om : I can see files have been installed on the usb drive21:32
ObrienDaverainbowwarrior, mine is Fn + F721:32
rainbowwarrioreeee : let me check21:33
rainbowwarriorObrienDave : oh ok will just go check what mine is21:34
Bashing-omrainbowwarrior: What we need to know is the file "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" existent on the USB drive ?21:36
Vampier-billQuestion install pipelite and all that stuff that uses wine and I dont really think I need it what is best way to remove 14.0421:37
ryan-cCan anyone help me figure out why rcu_sched is constantly using ~50% CPU?21:37
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ryan-calso, i can't use strace on it, wtf21:39
rainbowwarriorBashin-om : yes21:39
Loshkiryan-c: seen this? http://lwn.net/Articles/518953/21:43
ShiN|ChaNuna pregunta21:44
ShiN|ChaNcómo me conecto al server chatzona desde linux?21:45
k1l_!sp | ShiN|ChaN21:45
k1l_!es | ShiN|ChaN21:46
ubottuShiN|ChaN: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:46
ryan-cLoshki: That dosen't say anything about using ~50% CPU21:46
ShiN|ChaNOks :)21:46
ryan-cLoshki: it makes it sound like 1-2% would be normal21:46
AmbroseHi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS squeeze/sid and I just added more memory to the VM. It was at 1GB and now it's at 8, however, only 3GB is recognized. I searched in apt for 'pae' but I don't have the pae kernel/headers. Anyonw know how I can enable the rest of the memory? Thx21:46
babakslthi. im trying to compile a NodeJS .tr and have a problem. can any one help?21:46
ryan-cAmbrose: so this is a 32 bit system then?21:47
Ambroseryan-c: Yes 32bit21:47
Ambroseryan-c: "2.6.35-23-server" SMP21:47
k1l_Ambrose: "lsb_release -d" says what?21:47
AmbroserDescription:    Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS21:47
ryan-cAmbrose: is there a pae kernel available to install?21:47
AmbroseLinux blah 2.6.35-23-server #41~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 22:44:15 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:47
Ambroseryan-c: Nope, doesn't look like ther eis21:48
cynicallemonAmbrose: you need a PAE kernel21:48
AmbroseAll the docs say to upgrade to the PAE kernel, but it's not listed in apt-get search pae21:48
furqanopencv anyone ?21:48
AmbroseErr apt-cache search pae21:48
babaksltim installing nodeJS 0.11.12 from .tr i know i should compile it so i dl the .tr and used tar -xzvf now i have a folder of the files but find no ./configure ! where should i find it?21:48
ryan-cAmbrose: I think 10.04 becomes unsupported in ~9months, can you rebuild the box with a newer ubuntu version?21:48
Ladonhow do I request that something in the official repository get updated?21:49
Ladonnzbget is at 12.0 and 13.0 stable is out... as well as some awesome testing versions21:49
k1l_Ladon: file a bug/whishlist on launchpad21:49
ObrienDaveLadon, is it your package?21:49
Ladonno, ObrienDave21:49
Ambroseryan-c: Yeah I'll see if I can run the newer LTS version, I was trying to avoid rebuilding it :)21:49
ryan-cLadon: It is very unlikely to be updated. Generally the versions stay the same within a release as much as possible and bugfixes are backported.21:50
ryan-cLadon: Maybe there's a PPA with the latest version?21:50
MonkeyDustLadon  the ubuntu devs probably know it better than you, have patience until then newt release or so21:50
ryan-cAmbrose: You need to rebuild it by april anyway unless you want to run without security updates21:50
ObrienDaveLadon, official versions go through extensive testing. security/quality checks, etc, before they are included in the repos21:50
ryan-cAmbrose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases21:51
boldfilter1Need to reset my default sound device21:51
boldfilter1Seems to be stuck on one device21:51
Ambroseryan-c: Yes thanks, not a major concern since it's on private ip space and not routed etc21:51
Bashing-omrainbowwarrior: OK, let's accept that grub is installed to the USB drive, what results when you set in bios as the USB as 1st boot priority, and try and boot it up ?21:51
ryan-cAmbrose: It's not connected to the internet at all?21:52
boldfilter1GUI wont let me select it21:52
ryan-cAmbrose: air gapped?21:52
Ambroseryan-c: yes21:52
rainbowwarriorBashing-om : just looking at my laptop manual now to find out what the buttons to switch monitors is21:52
Bashing-omrainbowwarrior: K21:53
ryan-cAmbrose: Ah, so you work for the government or a defense contractor?21:53
TJ-Ladon: create a bug report and request a refresh to the upstream release. That might get into Utopic (it's in the Universe pocket), but you'll need to also post a bug report to Debian since that package is imported without any Ubuntu-specific changes, and Debian only carries 12.021:54
Ambroseryan-c: Thanks for you help21:54
ryan-cAmbrose: You could probably build your own kernel from source.21:54
ryan-cAmbrose: there are some nice scripts that will build a .deb of a custom kernel21:55
TJ-rainbowwarrior: What make/model is the laptop?21:55
AmbroseYeah, I'll probably just reimage it and save the hastle21:55
cynicallemonthere are pae kernels in lucid-update21:55
TJ-Ambrose have you seen http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/linux-image-generic-pae21:56
cynicallemonbut best to go forward now than in several months21:56
rainbowwarriorTJ: its an Acer Aspire V5 V71P21:57
AmbroseDoes that work when /etc/debian_version is squeeze/sid ?21:57
babaksltim installing nodeJS 0.11.12 from .tr i know i should compile it so i dl the .tr and used tar -xzvf now i have a folder of the files but find no ./configure ! where should i find it?21:57
cynicallemonAmbrose: thats debian so you will need debian backports for squeeze21:58
cuddylierAnyone know how to downgrade php5-fpm from 5.5 to 5.4 on Ubuntu 14.04? I can't find any guides.21:58
Ambrosecynicallemon: Ah ok21:58
rainbowwarriorbrb22:00
k1l_Ambrose: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae" should do the trick to enable pae kernels22:01
ryan-cokay, why is my system spending a bunch of time on native_read_tsc and delay_tsc22:01
cynicallemoncuddylier: have you looked at apt pinning?22:03
cuddyliercynicallemon: No, never heard of that before22:03
Ambrosek1l_: Unfortunatley not: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/24a83e6f50e36917638e22:03
ryan-clooks like the nv94 i2c code (from the video driver)22:03
k1l_Ambrose: hmm, in the meantime the dropped making special pae kernels since pae is standard now in the kernel.22:05
cynicallemoncuddylier: you could probably do an apt-get -f (force) install for the downgraded package22:05
k1l_Ambrose: are you sure pae is not enabled already?22:05
cuddylierWhat would I type exactly?22:05
cuddylierapt-get -f php5-fpm then what?22:05
Ambrosek1l_: Not sure how to check...22:05
marco_i need a command to output a textfile content and the name of the textfile. What should I use?22:06
k1l_Ambrose: erm: "Linux wlc-logs.netcom.ubc.ca 2.6.35-23-server #41~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 22:44:15 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux" is that machine?22:06
Ambroseyeah, which is why I'm even more confused since it's x86_6422:06
k1l_yep22:06
Ambrosevmware shows 8GB ram, but free -m shows 322:07
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marco_i'm looking for certain call of a function. i thought something like this could do the trick: 'cat *.vhd | grep faulty'22:09
marco_and it did, but now i cant find the faulty file i'm looking for22:09
cynicallemoncuddylier: see this for more info https://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get22:09
TJ-Ambrose: what version of vmware are you using?22:11
marco_why nobody answers?22:12
SNAFUdowserHey so I've got a wired connection but it22:12
AmbroseTJ-: Gimme a min to find out22:12
SNAFUdowserHey, my wired connection is not being detected.  How can I debug this?22:13
SNAFUdowserI'm connecting on my college campus.  It works on my laptop running Ubuntu 14, but not on my desktop using a Ubuntu 12 variant.22:14
TJ-Ambrose: From what you've said so far it sounds as if the bare-metal host is running a 64-bit kernel (x86_64), but the virtual machine guests are using 32-bit kernels (i686)22:15
TJ-SNAFUdowser: Did you previously manually configure that wired connection?22:15
AmbroseTJ-: Hrm ok it will take me some time to look into this, thanks for your help so far22:16
SNAFUdowserTJ-: No I haven't.  I just installed Elementary OS and no wired connections appear.22:17
TJ-SNAFUdowser: Elementary OS isn't supported here22:18
SNAFUdowserI thought it would prolly be the same procedure, but I'll check out their IRC and see what luck I have there.  What would I do if it was stock Ubuntu 12?22:20
franhalo22:26
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Guest26659soy fran y vengo de la cocina22:26
cuddylierHow do I see all the available versions for a package?22:34
Bashing-omcuddylier: "apt-cache policy <package name>" ??22:35
cuddylierBashing-om: Only version 5.5.9 for php5-fpm shows up, I need a 5.4 version hmmm22:36
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cynicallemoncuddylier: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php5-fpm&searchon=names22:49
Mussolinihi everybody22:50
installbitbakedoes anybody know how I can install bitbake on ubuntu? The angstrom distro tells us to do sudo apt-get install bitbake but apt-get cannot find that package22:50
Mussolinihow i change my desktop on ubuntu ?22:50
installbitbakeI tried a lot of things I saw on google and I still do not have a good installation of bitbake on my ubuntu box :-(22:50
Ben64installbitbake: doesn't seem like that package is in the ubuntu repositories22:51
k1l_Mussolini: to what?22:51
cuddyliercynicallemon: When I do apt-get install php5-fpm=5.4.9-4ubuntu2.4 it says E: Version '5.4.9-4ubuntu2.4' for 'php5-fpm' was not found22:51
Mussolinichange my background22:52
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k1l_Mussolini: right click on it: change background image22:53
Mussolinichange the image ther is on background of the system !22:53
cynicallemoncuddylier: probably because its not available for that release of ubuntu, you might have to download the .deb and manually install it with dpkg -i <packagename>22:53
k1l_Mussolini: or choose a image , make a rightclick on it and choose "choose as background"22:53
cynicallemoncuddylier: but i would be surprised if it installed without problems22:54
dustinspringmanso... it really is a morbid pain in the arse to move indicators in the panel bar?? Editing .keyfiles and whatnot?? what happened to right+click / Move?? sheesh....22:55
cuddyliercynicallemon: Issue is I need e.g. curl for php and all sorts of things so it might just be better getting Ubuntu 12.04 but only if OVH actually had it as an option for VPSs22:55
Ben64cuddylier: why would you need that exact version though?22:55
cuddylierBen64 I just need any version that isn't 5.5, whmcs doesn't work with 5.5+22:55
dustinspringmanAll I want it my indicator-multiload to be left of everything else so I am not having to mouse all the way across it when accessing other indicators then wanting to goto somethign like network or sound settings...22:56
cuddylierBen64: Primarily because ioncube hasn't updated for 5.522:56
Ben64cuddylier: then perhaps you should find something better than that22:56
cuddylierBen64: I can't change billing system, my whole business is based around whmcs and there is nothing better out there.22:56
smitzerWhat is the best way to time something on ubuntu?22:57
smitzerlet me rephrase22:57
smitzerwhat is the simplest way to time22:57
k1l_smitzer: "time <command>"22:57
iceroothow to find all packages installed from a specific repo? (backports in this case)22:58
icerootsmitzer: at22:58
smitzeri just want the time in the shell22:59
smitzerin windows: echo %time%22:59
icerootsmitzer: date22:59
k1l_yeah, date22:59
MussoliniThank's k1l_22:59
icerootsmitzer: date +%T23:00
icerootsmitzer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_%28Unix%29#Formatting23:01
Mussolinithank's23:01
nodiscchello, can someone tell me what's the default user agent string for firefox on ubuntu?23:02
nodisccyou can check at http://ifconfig.me/23:02
icerootnodiscc: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.023:03
nodiscciceroot: cool thanks, what ubuntu release? 14.04 ?23:04
icerootnodiscc: yes23:04
nodisccmany thanks23:05
rainbowwarriorwell seems the FN+F5 key  are my buttons for switching between monitors but only seem to work once I have loaded Ubuntu 14.04 Using the cd23:16
rainbowwarriordvd sorry23:16
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TJ-rainbowwarrior: Obviously require software drivers, they aren't hard-wired.  As a matter of interest, what exactly is wrong with the LCD?23:18
Mussolinihow I execute on file same this "jdk-7u60-windows-x64.exe" extension on ubuntu ??????????????????23:19
JohnTalenthow do I find all *.html files in all directories of 'ram'?23:21
rainbowwarriorTJ: the screen is cracked and has some sort of ink or something all over it23:21
TJ-rainbowwarrior: Ouch - that sounds like the liquid crystals have flowed23:21
TJ-rainbowwarrior: good news is, replacing LCDs is relatively easy and low-cost in most situations23:22
jnek1127hey can i get some really quick help with backing up a hard disk in order to reformat it?23:22
ObrienDavejnek1127, what's to know?23:23
jnek1127can i pm you obrien?23:23
ObrienDaveplease keep it here for others to learn23:24
smitzerActionBar actionBar = getActivity().getActionBar();23:24
smitzercan that fail?23:24
jnek1127ok that's fine,23:24
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rainbowwarriorTJ: yep :(  I was not a happy person to wake up finding my laptop screen had been broke , It cost me 650 and I only just bought it Ocotber last year23:25
ObrienDavejnek1127, so, what do you want to know?23:25
TJ-rainbowwarrior: I've got used to repairing/replacing them, but I do take good care too - not broken one myself so far :)23:26
rainbowwarriorTJ: ahh I am useless with my hands though :(23:26
TJ-rainbowwarrior: use your feet ;p23:27
jnek1127i'm booting ubuntu from a cd on my new PC, just because i want to transfer files over from my Mac using an apparently damaged external HD that only works on Macs. The external is damaged though so I have to repair it, which is why i'm using Ubuntu, cause i guess it recognizes it as well. I want to reformat it, so can i backup the files by creating a disk image then restoring the disk image after reformating it, or do i have to23:27
rainbowwarriorlol23:27
Mussolinisorry all23:27
Mussolinibut, is impossible founded the sama that execute on .tar.gz23:27
Mussolinisame23:27
jnek1127sorry for the messy question i was trying to type it out as fast as possible23:27
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TJ-jnek1127: if the external drive is damaged, why do you trust it for reliably transferring files?23:28
rainbowwarriorTJ: there is a bios update but im nor sure how to do them via linux23:28
stoopedjnek1127: Macs use a format readable by ubuntu23:29
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jnek1127cause i have a lot of files i want to transfer and it has enough room. it just got turned to read-only and my mac can't repair it. the files themselves didn't damage it, i was just being stupid by not properly ejecting it. at least that's what i think happened. anyway, i was sure a simple reformating would repair the drive, i just have a lot of files on there right now that i want to back up23:30
stoopedjnek1127: Did u try it yet?23:30
TJ-rainbowwarrior: I'd hold off until the screen is repaired23:30
jnek1127it's a WD MyPassport for mac23:30
jnek1127no i haven't reformatted it yet, I want to know if creating a disk image will properly back up the files23:31
TJ-jnek1127: So, you mean the drive itself is fine but you think the file-system data is damaged?23:31
jnek1127i am a true beginner23:31
rainbowwarriorTJ : ok ty23:31
jnek1127yeah at least i think so, i can view the files (read-only) i just can't make changes to the file system23:31
stoopedjnek1127: stay away from formatting untill u recover the files.23:32
ObrienDavejnek1127, yes it will but since it's only file data a simple copy and paste should work as well23:32
jnek1127i actually can copy files out on ubuntu and not on my mac23:32
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jnek1127thanks obrien, but since i'm now starting to get skeptical, how can i check to see if my files aren't damaged as well?23:33
TJ-jnek1127: In Linux you can look at the kernel log to see if the kernel is reporting Input/Output (I/O) errors. If not, then the drive is probably physically OK and you can reformat. In Ubuntu start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) then type "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and tell us the URL of the paste, so we can look23:33
computa_mikeHi - wasn't sure if we knew this - but kdenlive in 14.04 - just popped onto kdenlive project page http://kdenlive.org/download-ubuntu - they are saying that the official repositories are depricated...23:33
computa_mikeDid we know that?23:34
* ObrienDave knows nothing about Mac FS23:34
jnek1127doing that now TJ, thanks23:35
stoopedjnek1127: are you just trying to recover your data first23:36
jnek1127stooped: i actually don't know if that's necessary or not. i can see my old folders and files, but my Mac just repeatedly tells me "this drive needs to be repaired and OS X can't do it" i ran ubuntu in hopes of reformatting it here. i guess i need to check if my files are ok. i can see them, but don't know if they're fine or not23:37
jnek1127tj: here's the pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8227774/23:38
stoopedjnek1127: once you format it or change disk file format. You may as well kiss your old data good bye.23:39
TJ-jnek1127: Drives aren't reporting errors, so physically it looks OK23:40
stoopedjnek1127: does Mac's have a recovery feature. It may be just a bad driver upgrade. In other words is the disk your boot disk and if so can it boot23:42
Mussoliniis necessary install wine23:42
Mussolinitks all23:42
jnek1127stooped: it's just an external for storing files. i did fresh driver upgrade and that fixed it somewhat (it went from not showing up at all to being read only). i think reformatting will solve the whole issue23:44
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delinquentmeso I want to get an IP out of this JSON element... in bash:https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/b9558eb71530a87e27ff ... the first IP ... thoughts on the sipmlest way to do this?23:44
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jnek1127stooped: what's the quickest way to back up files? i got about 7 gigs of stuff on there that i need to store somewhere else in order to back up. i have room on this pc but the transfer proceses will likely take a while, so will creating a disk image be a good idea? i have never done it before nor do i know what it even means. i don't know this stuff at all23:45
jnek1127*in order to reformat23:46
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jnek1127TJ: i never thanked you. that helps, cuz i couldn't understand that at all. i guess i still need to reformat though23:47
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stoopedjnek1127: I think you want to transfer files from your data disk to another data disk using ubuntu. May not work because ubuntu will read the disks but will not write to Mac formatted disks23:47
jnek1127stooped: hmmm ok that's interesting. if i reformat using ubuntu, will it give ubuntu copying permissions?23:48
delinquentmeso I want to get an IP out of this JSON element... in bash:https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/b9558eb71530a87e27ff ... the first IP ... thoughts on the simplest way to do this?23:48
JohnTalenthttp://pastie.org/952544723:48
ObrienDavejnek1127, you can also file copy to a USB stick23:48
stoopedjnek1127: 7 gigs is not much. Usb3 thumb drive formatted exfat23:49
jnek1127i meant 700 gigs23:49
jnek1127sorry23:49
ObrienDaveoh, only a 100x difference LOL23:50
jnek1127yeah, i guess i'm just gonna copy the files onto this pc and start from scratch with the whole external. i have two TBs on this baby23:50
stoopedjnek1127: format the disk you want to copy files to either ntfs or fat32 then just do a simple copy paste23:51
jnek1127can i make an empty drive partition i have already larger using ubuntu? i shrunk it off the primary drive in windows but it's only 50 gigs23:52
jnek1127or should i go back to windows to do that23:52
stoopedjnek1127: Macs are usually formatted hfs+ journalized. Use a more compatible format like fat32 for the new data disk23:53
jnek1127ok, sounds good, i'll do ntfs23:54
jnek1127what's the ubuntu app to do all this in?23:54
stoopedjnek1127: fat32 is usually better for hard disks23:54
stoopedjnek1127: fat32 is usually better for hard disks used as data disks23:54
jnek1127hm ok, and it's mac compatible? does that mean if i connect the Mac external to it it'll have permissions to copy and read files?23:55
stoopedjnek1127: gparted23:56
stoopedYes fat32 is very compatible for data. Not good for operating systems though.23:57
jnek1127so this shouldn't be the drive i eventually install linux on?23:58

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