[00:01] <pdcmoreira> can i do sudo apt-get purge php* safely?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: What release have you installed, as trusty shows "Version: 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4" as the proper version .
[00:02] <pdcmoreira> vesion of linux?
[00:02] <pdcmoreira> latest 14.04
[00:02] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: Yes, what release of ubuntu is installed ?
[00:02] <pdcmoreira> latest 14.04
[00:02] <XepoofBNC> uname -a on bash
[00:03] <underplay> Whats a good GUI for KDE that can decrypt/encrypt and manage GPG keys? Something besides gpg4usb and not kelopatra either
[00:03] <pdcmoreira> it says 3.13.0-32-generic
[00:04] <bmuk`> EriC^^: I apologize for being so much trouble. I have googled this to no end and I can't seem to fix it. I would rather not have to reinstall completely
[00:04] <EriC^^> bmuk`: did this happen after a graphics driver update?
[00:04] <bmuk`> I don't believe so. I have intel integrated graphics
[00:04] <pdcmoreira> wait is this 32 bit? i think i've downloaded 64 bit as it is for a php server for a huge app
[00:05] <EriC^^> bmuk`: you could try to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:05] <elimskrad> best channel to get ddos and router support. Etherape etc. Hackers been having there way on my home networ. Thanks :-D
[00:06] <OerHeks> elimskrad, wrong channel to ask
[00:06] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: To se the installed version(s) -> dpkg -l nginx php5-fpm <- .
[00:06] <pdcmoreira> aaah 5.5.9
[00:06] <pdcmoreira> :D
[00:06] <pdcmoreira> i guess it's all ok then
[00:07] <pdcmoreira> so that "Ondřej Surý" repo is not needed anymore?
[00:07] <underplay> Whats a good GUI for KDE that can decrypt/encrypt and manage GPG keys? Something besides gpg4usb and not kelopatra either
[00:07] <OerHeks> elimskrad, try #security or ##networking
[00:08] <underplay> #security
[00:08] <elimskrad> thank you OerHeks
[00:09] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: well, on a fresh install, and all the applications installed, then no, there is no need of a PPA that will cause dependency conflicts.
[00:09] <pdcmoreira> hmm
[00:09] <OerHeks> underplay, i think kwallet does that? you might want to ask in #kubuntu too.
[00:09] <pdcmoreira> but i tried sudo apt-get install php5 php5-curl php5-cli php5-cgi php5-pear php5-imagick php5-gd php5-fpm php5-pdo php5-mcrypt and it said ir couldnt find php5-pear and php5-pdo
[00:10] <underplay> ok thanks Oerheks ill check out kwallet
[00:10] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: why are you not using the official lamp guide?
[00:10] <pdcmoreira> i'm trying to install lemp
[00:11] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: -> apt-cache show php5-pear <- ??
[00:11] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: i think you're supposed to install libapache2-mod-php5 , only
[00:11] <EriC^^> you'd get php5-cli and others with it
[00:11] <OerHeks> pdcmoreira, what guide are you using anyway?
[00:11] <pdcmoreira> can't find php5-pear package
[00:11] <EriC^^> !lamp | pdcmoreira
[00:11] <pdcmoreira> http://www.smartpixels.net/how-to-lamp-lemp-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server-271/#smartTabs2 <- this one
[00:12] <pdcmoreira> EriC^^, that guide says it installs php5
[00:13] <pdcmoreira> so it seems to be hugely outdated
[00:13] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: which is 5.5.9
[00:13] <EriC^^> no, you'd get the latest version
[00:13] <OerHeks> pdcmoreira, even thaqt PPA mentioned, had no php5-pear candidate :-D
[00:13] <pdcmoreira> are you sure? because other sites say that ubuntu doesn't install 5.5
[00:13] <OerHeks> funny guide
[00:13] <tburke> yes yes y'all
[00:13] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: quite sure, yes
[00:14] <pdcmoreira> well it says in my system that 5.5.9 is installed so
[00:14] <pdcmoreira> i guess is all right
[00:15] <EriC^^> there are actually stuff you don't have
[00:15] <EriC^^> which i'd think were important
[00:15] <EriC^^> php5-common php5-readline
[00:15] <pdcmoreira> the app is made in laravel framework
[00:16] <pdcmoreira> so i guess i need that php5-pdo?
[00:16] <EriC^^> i'd follow the official guide
[00:16] <pdcmoreira> because eloquent (laravel's ORM) uses pdo i think
[00:17] <somsip> pdcmoreira: yes it does
[00:17] <EriC^^> and add whatever you need
[00:18] <dsnyders> Hi all!  What's the best way to move /var to a new partition?
[00:18] <bmuk`> EriC^^: dist-upgrade still didn't help. I'm convinced this is a compiz problem, I just don't know why it isn't loading the composite plugin
[00:18] <EriC^^> bmuk`: guest account doesn't work, right?
[00:19] <bmuk`> I believe it did work when I tried it the other day, let me try quickly
[00:20] <bmuk`> guest account boots to unity just fine
[00:20] <pdcmoreira> err... great
[00:20] <pdcmoreira> i just did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[00:21] <pdcmoreira> now it asks me which server should be configured automatically
[00:21] <pdcmoreira> either apache2 or lightppd
[00:21] <pdcmoreira> i have nginx :s
[00:21] <newroad> does anyone know of a solid powerful ubuntu gaming laptop that isn’t system76? their stuff is so buggy and their support is horrible and rude
[00:21] <rypervenche> pdcmoreira: You'll have to set up a virtualhost yourself for nginx. It's very easy to do.
[00:22] <minimec> bmuk`: How did you reset unity before? Like this? --> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:22] <Lobster`> Just get a powerful windows laptop and install ubuntu on it
[00:22] <WeiJunLi> Tried to run a .exe file and received this output http://bpaste.net/show/bdf9694a39a5 - how to fix this?
[00:22] <Lobster`> linux doesnt run .exe
[00:22] <newroad> lobster, but so many have driver/compatibility issues.
[00:22] <WeiJunLi> Lobster`: it does
[00:22] <bmuk`> minimec: I am in tty1 now, I can't see that link, could you summarize? just dconf reset -f /org/compiz?
[00:23] <Lobster`> wine isnt linux, its a software layer windows emulator
[00:23] <WeiJunLi> Lobster`: alright, so how to fix that error with wine?
[00:23] <OerHeks> WeiJunLi, for wine application help, join #winehq
[00:23] <somsip> Lobster`: Wine Is Not an Emulator :)
[00:26] <netlar> I am setting up a system for a family member. Is there a way to add to system wide help?
[00:26] <minimec> bmuk`: exactly. ok. YOur configuration seems 'borked'. If you want to solve it manually, I would make a copy of the config folders, and try again...
[00:26] <minimec> I would do ... 'mv .compiz .compiz-old && mv compiz-1 compiz-1-old && mv .gconf gconf-old && mv .config .config-old'
[00:26] <bmuk`> can't I just remove those folders? I don't have anything important in there
[00:27] <minimec> bmuk`: Afterwards you will have to copy the working configurations for your apps back from .config-old to .config, if needed.
[00:27] <netlar> Maybe like add a section of my own, tailored just to them?
[00:28] <minimec> bmuk`: Your choice. All your app config will be gone.
[00:28] <EriC^^> bmuk`: question, do you have unity-tweak-tool ?
[00:29] <bmuk`> no I don't
[00:29] <bmuk`> I removed all of those folders, the only one i hadn't removed before was gconf
[00:29] <farobank> Each and every one of you are a disgrace to the concept of free speech.  You are so fucking uneducated and stupid that you do not understand why it's important that unpopular speech be heard despite its unpopularity.  You cannot simulate inside your little retarded brain why and how restriction of speech is detrimental to a working society.  I hope all of
[00:29] <farobank> you get cancer, especially bazhang and metaleer, who are both even worse (even worse in that they are trolls who work out their sexual frustration through their tiny limited power on IRC)!  This is Cholby.  Fuck you.  Suck my dick you.  You are all a fucking disgrace.  The fappening is discussed on heavily-censored CNN, however not on freenode.  What does
[00:29] <farobank> that say about you?  Not much.  lol fag
[00:30] <bmuk`> It's fixed now
[00:30] <minimec> bmuk`: Heureka ;)
[00:30] <bmuk`> thank you all! I have no idea how this happened
[00:34] <Mussolini> hi
[00:35] <mJayk> Hay Mussolini
[00:37] <html_has_headach> how do i mkdir  many dir then a doc.sh  and have the chmod set in one command?
[00:37] <somsip> html_has_headach: give an example of what you want to do.
[00:39] <EriC^^> mkdir many dir as in a path?
[00:40] <EriC^^> like create /path/to/folder , if path & to dont exist as folders?
[00:42] <nrdb> Just upgraded to 14.04 :-)    Things appear good so far    I like being able to put the menus in the window title bar
[00:44] <WeiJunLi> ufffff, anyone can help me with a wine issue? winehq channel is dead
[00:45] <nrdb> html_has_headach, chmod can be recursive
[00:46] <nrdb> html_has_headach, as for making many dirs I would use a script .... python maybe
[00:58] <html_has_headach> somsip,  nrdb  http://pastebin.com/q3RXrhA8
[01:00] <noud_is_nol> Banned
[01:00] <noud_is_nol> You are banned from ##unix.
[01:00] <noud_is_nol> damit..invoices time..and guess!! ..them #netbsd acting up again --(
[01:00] <noud_is_nol> (real serious_)
[01:01] <OerHeks> please watch your language, noud_is_nol
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> given time..now reading this back-log, if any..did see url..will be the same upon left
[01:01] <rww> !ot
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> i do i do
[01:01] <rww> (as you know already)
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> (02:59:12) Topic for #netbsd set by Cryo at 04:31:43 on 22-04-14
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> (02:59:33) iemand: fuck shit i need to get my invoices out..driving nbsd
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> (02:59:35) iemand: hi them
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> (03:00:13) iemand: Banned
[01:01] <noud_is_nol> (03:00:13) iemand: You are banned from ##unix.
[01:01] <unopaste> noud_is_nol you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:01] <rww> sigh.
[01:02] <rww> noud_is_nol: #ubuntu is *only* for Ubuntu technical support. Other topics are *not allowed here*. Repeated offtopic chatter will result in your removal from this room.
[01:04] <somsip> html_has_headach: so, that is your script. Put all of those commands in a file, put "#!/bin/bash" as line 1, and chmod +x on the file.
[01:07] <mguy> I'm getting a bunch of 'hash Sum mismatch' errors when I try to apt-get update 12.04 server
[01:08] <mguy> 14.04 seems to work fine, any ideas?
[01:08] <tac_> Is it just me, or does the version of grep that comes with Ubuntu not glob properly?
[01:09] <OerHeks> mguy, an idea is to look what package/repository is doing that
[01:09] <tac_> hm, as soon as I say that
[01:09] <tac_> it works as usual :)
[01:09] <scaghead> OerHeks: bravo
[01:09] <mguy> Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages
[01:10] <OerHeks> precise = 12.04 ..
[01:10] <scaghead> mguy: so
[01:10] <OerHeks> edit your sources.list :-)
[01:11] <tac_> err no, I guess it's still not working
[01:14] <mguy> OerHeks: Why? This is a fresh out of the box install
[01:14] <EriC^^> mguy: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* && sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <mguy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/446109/apt-get-update-gives-bzip2-error-on-fresh-ubuntu-12-04lts-in-virtual-box-versi  that's the same one I get
[01:15] <OerHeks> mguy i understood you updated 12.04 to 14.04
[01:15] <mguy> EriC^^: Same error
[01:15] <mguy> OerHeks: No, I have 14.04 install that works fine
[01:16] <mguy> But I need older versions of php to duplicate another server so I used 12.04
[01:17] <noud_is_nol> (03:16:44) nog_iemand: (IM) Information Management
[01:17] <OerHeks> i would remove the lists, not the partial >> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <Spiderkeys> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, have an Nvidia GTX580, and am having problems with colour banding, as if it was set to 16bit colour depth. The settings present in the nvidia-settings app show that I am indeed set to 24 bit depth, despite that. I've tried a few different drivers (both Nouveau and proprietary), but that doesn't seem to help the situation. ANy ideas for what might be causing this problem or how I can further pursue th
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:15:48) roasted: rww: sleepin on the job bro? :P
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:04) nog_iemand: ##unix given 88, given #netbsd blocks
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:12) blitz: phunyguy plz
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:21) nog_iemand: whos the fuck sleeping
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:22) phunyguy: hello
[01:19] <noud_is_nol>  see above ^^^
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> ^
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> we work together
[01:20] <somsip> !ops | noud_is_nol (cross posting repeatedly)
[01:20] <OerHeks> noud_is_nol, we don't care, so stop it, thanks.
[01:22] <dodah> is there another webcam program besides cheese. (thats good) ?
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> yes pardon had and have a help-feeling down local here as well
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> sure is
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> first Vid4Linux things
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> euu..uu..what's the exact?
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> # what's the exact?
[01:24] <digitalsave> test
[01:24] <somsip> !test | digitalsave
[01:24] <digitalsave> anyone having issues with openssh-server not allowing connections from the outside?
[01:25] <somsip> digitalsave: only when it's not configured correctly
[01:25] <SchrodingersScat> digitalsave: you?
[01:25] <digitalsave> this is a fresh install and i can connect locally but it refuses my password externallt
[01:26] <EriC^^> digitalsave: are you logging in as ssh user@host ?
[01:26] <porfa> can anyone helkp me out with some ownership issues/questions ?
[01:26] <digitalsave> port forwarding it correct as i can reach and accept the key
[01:26] <digitalsave> yes EriC^^
[01:26] <dodah> well, i'm not sure what you all our talking about.. i'm wanting to know if there is a better program than Cheese..
[01:26] <dodah> i'm from kansas
[01:26] <dodah> :)
[01:26] <porfa> here it goes, i am editing some .php files that are in my webroot, but the thing is, my actual user doesn't have rights to write the files, just to read them, how do i give (and should i give) permissions to my user to write on those files, or should i just create a new user with write acess to my webroot like www-data does?
[01:27] <dodah> back in the old days that was flooding the channel
[01:27] <mguy> EriC^^: nuking the lists/ directory did the trick
[01:27] <porfa> sorry dodah
[01:28] <somsip> porfa: on a dev machine, add your user to www-group, logout and back in again, chgrp -R www-data /var/www, chmod -R g+s /var/www
[01:28] <dodah> no problem
[01:28] <somsip> porfa: then anything created in /var/www will be www-data group, which you will be a part of. Only safe for a dev machine though
[01:29] <porfa> it's a server and it's online ..! would it be safe to create a new diferent user just to edit docs on the /var/www/html folder? would it be safer? i know nothing about security, im just editing some phps
[01:30] <digitalsave> sshd was up and running until recently just fine and then started denying my password with access denied with nothing in auth.log as to why it was denied. i messed around with it and finally just blanked the system incase i messed up some of the auth files or something. a fresh install does the same thing. i disaled the ecdsa keys thinking maybe that was causing issues but get the same thing
[01:31] <Fall> digitalsave: did you check /etc/hosts.deny
[01:32] <digitalsave> i did and it is blank - fresh system
[01:33] <somsip> porfa: if you are editing php files on a live server, you don't have a safe deployment process.
[01:34] <porfa> i wish i could properly write what is happening here, i will trya nd hope my feelings get across
[01:34]  * EriC^^ pulls a couch for porfa to lay on
[01:35] <porfa> well, it's live on the owncloud part and mysql, that's online.. i am editing some prestashop php/smarty files on a service that isn't really online yet, it's still under development, but i only have this server, so i have to edit the files this way
[01:35] <porfa> sorry EriC^^ :(
[01:35] <EriC^^> lol, :)
[01:35] <afrokarlsson> what happens when in monday born person go s over 2 see in same day once, tuesday twice..., sunday seven times
[01:36] <dodah> i don't feelings really matter around here...
[01:36] <somsip> porfa: have a read of this which mostly mirrors what I've said, but makes an important point that /var/www whoudl be root:root and only some of the contents should be :www-data. There are links to other questions that may help you too. http://is.gd/J2lS84
[01:36] <porfa> i think i expressing myself wrong, wngflish not my fgirst language, i meant to say something more like of thoughts maybe
[01:36] <dodah> don't worry about it
[01:36] <dodah> life goes on
[01:37] <porfa> somsip thank you very nice for that link
[01:37] <dodah> have not done nothing wrong in my book..
[01:38] <somsip> porfa: on a live server, permissions should be very tight. On a dev server, they can be more relaxed. Best to get it right now if you are working on a server that will go live one day.
[01:38] <dodah> course mine is a little book.. :)
[01:38] <somsip> *dev = local
[01:38] <dodah> bigger
[01:38] <dodah> Gods above me.. trust me..
[01:39] <EriC^^> dodah: lol, i thought it was a funny.. like he was about share his childhood or something
[01:39] <EriC^^> that's all
[01:39] <dodah> right
[01:39] <dodah> got it
[01:39] <phunyguy> Can we stay on topic with support please?
[01:40] <dodah> ahhhhhh can some help me set my clock?
[01:40] <somsip> !time | dodah
[01:40] <dodah> i hate bots
[01:40] <dodah> get real
[01:41] <dodah> these are people
[01:46] <maherrera89> Hello
[01:47] <maherrera89> expunge, you there?
[01:47] <_unreal_> god I love linux, total crash and yet I still recovered
[01:48] <maherrera89> Hello all, I have an issue with my pc, the sound does not work when I play videos (youtube or Facebook), I do not think is the sound driver because it does play the music in Rhythmbox, any one with a hint?
[01:54] <html_has_headach> wait what?  i am banned?  i was just afking here .
[01:55] <OerHeks> html_has_headach, no you're not
[01:56] <html_has_headach> somsip,  this is a post install script - i  need the dir and the chlid read and writeable .
[01:57] <html_has_headach> !grep | html_has_headach
[02:02] <somsip> html_has_headach: which directory? Readable and writeable by whom?
[02:07] <html_has_headach> what is chmod +x ? what does this mean?
[02:07] <linuxlid> 23333333333
[02:08] <somsip> html_has_headach: it makes a file executable.
[02:08] <linuxlid> you can "man chmon"
[02:09] <somsip> html_has_headach: and the line starting 'echo "-Xmx1024M...' should be 'echo "java -Xmx1024M...' from what you seem to be trying to do
[02:14] <saiarcot895> html_has_headach: chmod +x specifically adds executable permissions to the file for everyone
[02:18] <hanasaki> what is a good opensource way to setup vm's or lxc's that are in a pool that users can log into?
[02:19] <somsip> hanasaki: that's not really anything to do with ubuntu. Docker springs to mind, but further discussion would be OT
[02:19] <hanasaki> well looking to use ubuntu as the base host for the system
[02:21] <somsip> hanasaki: ubuntu will likely support whatever solution you decide on. So you need to find a solution. It depends very much by what you mean by 'pool' and what use case you;re looking at. I'd suggest researching serveroverflow or something similar
[02:21] <hanasaki> thanks.
[02:22] <hanasaki> somsip:  have a lead on getting kdm  to come up iwht a login screen for both windows and linux boxes?  idea is to be able to login to the X session and if already logged in... to reconnect to the already loged in one
[02:24] <somsip> hanasaki: I don't see a question there, I don't use kdm, and don't run dual boot. So I can't help. But if you address the question to the channel, maybe someone else can
[02:25] <geekmasterflash> hanasaki, the only thing I am aware of towards what you are talking about is GFX Grub
[02:25] <hanasaki> I have xinitd.d/...   setup with server_args     = -inetd -query localhost -once -geometry 1600x1200 -depth 8 -nevershared -ac
[02:25] <hanasaki>    however right after login with vnc client the server closes the windows
[02:25] <geekmasterflash> Presuming you are saying you want the screen where you select your OS to be pretty
[02:26] <hanasaki> geekmasterflash:  idea is to use vnc to get to a kdm login screen over the network
[02:27] <config_> How do you configure rsyslog to create a particular log to be no more than a certain size (in GB), and once it reaches that limit, to compress that file and start a new log file?
[02:28] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I am getting a glib error in the in the man-db stage of installing python-minimal 2.7.5-5ubuntu3.  I am updating from 12.04 to 14.04.  How do I get a working system out of this?
[02:29] <OerHeks> config_, logrotation maybe? http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/log_rotation_fix_size.html
[02:29] <underplay> whats the error
[02:29] <linuxuz3r> its much better to reinstall
[02:30] <OerHeks> please linuxuz3r not again this trolling
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> OerHeks, I am not sure that constitutes trolling. Restalling usually is cleaner
[02:31] <underplay> if you see meo nthe internet, i got hte product, if you see me in your inbox, i got he product
[02:31] <underplay> badass song
[02:36] <config_> OerHeks: what if you wanted not just one backup log, but multiple ones for rotation?
[02:38] <OerHeks> config_, that howto shows you how to limit, in the actual logrotate script you can add compression if you want
[02:39] <cyberjunkie> yo
[02:39] <energizer> Hello, error from apt-get update. "GPG error: http://plex.r.worldssl.net lucid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43525C28E533491A
[02:39] <energizer> ".
[02:40] <OerHeks> Lucid... that is old
[02:40] <energizer> I don't really understand all this key/signature stuff anyway. Is there a good resource for learning about that?
[02:40] <OerHeks> energizer, lucid is EOL
[02:40] <OerHeks> !eol
[02:41] <yc__> hi
[02:41] <energizer> OerHeks: i see.
[02:41] <kostkon> energizer, is it the desktop version?
[02:41] <baegle> I just upgraded to 14.04 (thinkpad x230). Resuming from suspend, I get the login window, but after logging in, the screen is completely black. I think the backlight is completely off. But my ttys work (after a second, presumably for the backlight to turn on). How can I toggle the backlight on my X session from a separate tty session?
[02:41] <OerHeks> energizer, you could try the oldversions trick, but maybe plex has removed stuff
[02:41] <energizer> kostkon: ya
[02:42] <OerHeks> i am wrong, uh, server *is* still supported .. so it is a plex issue
[02:43] <energizer> OerHeks: on https://plex.tv/downloads, the downloadable version is for "lucid or newer"
[02:43] <ahklerner> baegle: i had same issue on a toshiba i had to change power setting to suspend for both on ac and on battery
[02:43] <ahklerner> it is a known bug with light-locker
[02:43] <energizer> OerHeks: my os is 14.04
[02:43] <config_> OerHeks: Thanks, what if say, I wanted to fill up a 10GB log directory (ex. /var/log/mydirectory) with logs that have a maximum size of 1GB. That would mean I'd be able to constantly rotate 10 logs. Is it possible to do this?
[02:43] <kostkon> energizer, try re-adding the key for that repo
[02:43] <baegle> ahklerner: OK, I'll reboot and try that
[02:44] <ahklerner> baegle: it also has the side effect of not requiring a password
[02:44] <ahklerner> which is not good
[02:44] <OerHeks> energizer, then that line should be : GPG error: http://plex.r.worldssl.net trusty
[02:47] <energizer> OerHeks: i'd have thought so too..
[02:47] <codepython777> I've a /usr/local/bin/uwsgi -> dpkg -list shows uwsgi, but apt-get remove wont remove it. Any ideas how i can find out who installed this executable?
[02:48] <baegle> ahklerner: I'm not sure I understand which setting you have to change. There's a setting for when laptop lid is closed, but that's not what you mean, right?
[02:49] <kerriDoti> can anyone tell me the name of, or more to the point, what the shortcut is to hide/show the window. (((the fourth up arrow button next to the minimize, maximize, and close buttons?)))
[02:49] <ahklerner> yes that is the setting that helped my issue
[02:49] <ahklerner> but again it was a toshiba so it may be a slightly different issue
[02:49] <baegle> Hmm, but I have closing laptop lid = lock screen, not suspend
[02:50] <ahklerner> that is what mine was originally on too
[02:51] <Beldar> kerriDoti, Little more context would help, kinda hard to understand.
[02:51] <peterrooney> codepython777: dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/uwsgi
[02:51] <OerHeks> energizer, if it is just the keyring, actionparsnip wrote a solution #7  >  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/201666
[02:52] <codepython777> peterrooney: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/uwsgi
[02:52] <cynicallemon> Beldar: i think kerriDoti mean the roll up windows feature
[02:52] <kerriDoti> Beldar: see the top of your window. there is the close window, maximize, minmize, and another arrow button that rolls up or down the window. that is the one im interested in. :)
[02:53] <config_> OerHeks: Any idea how to rotate multiple logs?
[02:53] <Beldar> kerriDoti, Not on my desktop, you might give exacting info.
[02:53] <energizer> OerHeks: thanks, ill check it out.
[02:53] <peterrooney> codepython777: I just noticed - if it's in /usr/local it means it's installed from a local source, NOT from a repository.  Sorry.
[02:53] <OerHeks> config_, maybe a cashscripter can write such thing, i would tar it with date in the name, to avoid double files
[02:53] <peterrooney> codepython777: dpkg doesn't normally know about such things.
[02:53] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: try placing the mouse pointer on the window title bar and scroll with your mouse
[02:53] <codepython777> peterrooney: can i safely remove it?
[02:54] <OerHeks> err i would clean logs regularly too
[02:54] <delinquentme> is it typical that a set of matched RAM ... has 1 good stick and 1 bad ??
[02:54] <kerriDoti> Beldar: Yeah darn, perhaps it is only with xfce or xubuntu? And yes the scroll does it. Im interested in a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing.
[02:55] <OerHeks> config_, maybe this page is any help http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples/
[02:55] <peterrooney> codepython777: depends.  Did you want the uwsgi service running on your machine?  From the looks of it, you installed it from source.
[02:55] <kerriDoti> Beldar: lol, its lots of fun to search for something like this when you dont know the name of it! :-)
[02:55] <delinquentme> I just purchased a matched set of PNY ram from best buy ... checked all the stats DDR3  PC3-12800
[02:56] <capruro> Hi
[02:56] <Beldar> delinquentme, If one is bad return it, hardly a support question.
[02:57] <kerriDoti> cynicallemon: Thank you that works. Looking for a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing.
[02:58] <kerriDoti> Wish i knew the name of it
[02:58] <pussygladiator> how do I have my terminal echo something everytime i open it up
[02:59] <pussygladiator> its gnome-terminal
[02:59] <guest66676667> Okay I have ubuntu 14.04.01 lts which i modified to lubuntu-desktop instead and added openbox which i have to configure so they dont eat eachother still.  I use wicd and after the recent upgrade network-manager is back and if i remove it it threatens to uninstall lubuntu-desktop.  how do i blacklist network-manager which does not work well for me and keep lubuntu-desktop?
[02:59] <delinquentme> Beldar, I guess im just surprised that they dont verify these things?
[03:00] <kerriDoti> Someone in xubuntu told me the name. It is shade. Now to find the keyboard shortcut!!! :-)
[03:00] <config_> OerHeks: Thanks, OerHeks. Btw, how do you know so much about these things?
[03:00] <davidrsmorris> 22: You forgot to call g_type_init() at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207 \n GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207.
[03:01] <OerHeks> config_, hangin in here, reading and learning for months, maybe years now :-)
[03:01] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: yeah shade or rollup/down
[03:02] <Beldar> delinquentme, Sure but this is support #ubuntu-offtopic is chat on such matters. ;)
[03:03] <guest66676667> hi
[03:04] <energizer> guest66676667: hi!
[03:04] <config_> OerHeks: I see
[03:05] <kerriDoti> Got it! Thank you for your help!!!
[03:05] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: and the answer is?
[03:06] <delinquentme> Beldar, thanks I took it to #electronics :D
[03:08] <Melar> How do i get rid of network-manager which causes me problems and keep lubuntu-desktop?
[03:16] <Beldar> Melar, Do you want net access?
[03:16] <cynicallemon> Melar: lubuntu-desktop should only be a meta package i think
[03:17] <cynicallemon> Beldar thats what /etc/network/interfaces is for
[03:17] <sydney> Melar: We need more details. Wats wrong? Can you explain better?
[03:18] <kerriDoti> cynicallemon: The answer is... its called shade. In the settings -> window manager-> keyboard shortcuts... I mad a hotkey to use. :-)
[03:18] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: cool, i thought you would need a keybind of some sort
[03:18] <Beldar> Melar, The question just needs some back to it is all, like have you replaced it say with wicd and or sdome end goal.
[03:18] <Beldar> some*
[03:18] <kerriDoti> So instead of clicking the button. or using the mouse scroll wheel, i can use my keyboard shortcut! Yay!!! Effieciency!
[03:19] <kerriDoti> cynacallemon: I did, just did not know the name of it. ;-)
[03:21] <netlar> All of a sudden Pithos is not showing notifications anymore.  How can I fix that?
[03:21] <config_> OerHeks: So for this logrotate example you shared, basically you would feed in the rsyslog output (whatever it may be called, say my-log-file-of-interest.log) into /etc/logrotate.conf?
[03:22] <netlar> I was getting the notification pop up, now it just stopped, I already rebooted too
[03:23] <Beldar> netlar, This the unity desktop and are any other notifications missing?
[03:24] <netlar> Beldar: this is Unity, and the other notifications do appear
[03:25] <Beldar> netlar, Might be the pithos config is there a pithos in ~/.config
[03:25] <netlar> I just reinstalled Pithos too, that did not fix it
[03:25] <Melar> Beldar: i apologize for that i am unfamiliar with the paste bin service and was unsure about how to proceed.
[03:26] <netlar> Beldar: I do not see a Pithos folder in the ~/.config folder
[03:26] <Beldar> Melar, You can answer questions here, we just want more info is all.
[03:27] <netlar> Beldar: I do see a ini file
[03:27] <twoofthree> hello. Is ubuntu capable of reading exfat usb flash drive out of the box?
[03:27] <netlar> Beldar: In that file notify=True is there
[03:27] <Melar> let me figure out the paste bin for ubuntu
[03:28] <somsip> !paste | Melar
[03:29] <netlar> Beldar: Is it something wrong with Pithos and sending info over internet?
[03:29] <netlar> Beldar: What more info would you like?
[03:30] <Melar> pretty good expunge, network-manager is causing me problems now when i try to uninstall it trying to get up to speed so i can paste the apt-get output to the patse bin
[03:31] <Beldar> netlar, I'm just guessing on a config issue, if you reinstalled you would had to have run a purge to get the config out, or just figure where it's at.
[03:31] <Melar> !paste | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8220334/
[03:32] <Beldar> Melar, The network manager is your gui to the net you know this right?
[03:33] <Melar> i use wicd
[03:33] <netlar> Beldar: Well I just ran the purge and then reinstalled, same issue
[03:33] <Beldar> Melar, That was the point of my first question.
[03:33] <Melar> yes
[03:34] <Beldar> Melar, I would just disable it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[03:34] <Melar> thank you!
[03:34] <netlar> Sorry to bother you guys with such a minor thing
[03:35] <Beldar> netlar, No problem it is a ubuntu package having it work correctly is no bother.
[03:35] <Tyrandis> Hey guys whats up, first time using this program and using ubuntu :D
[03:36] <netlar> Beldar: I was not doing anything to the system, just on a web browser then started Pithos and noticed the pop ups were not happening anymore
[03:37] <Beldar> netlar, see if 'python-appindicator' is installed
[03:37] <netlar> yep, checked that too
[03:37] <netlar> Even reinstalled it
[03:39] <Melar> thank you again, i appriciate this a lot.
[03:39] <Beldar> netlar, Hmm, this 14.04? I see a bug the python-appindicator was it's answer with a quick cursory that is all I see as a fix.
[03:40] <netlar> Beldar: One other thing too, when I start Pithos the pause button on the player is not showing, the one off to the left
[03:40] <Beldar> netlar, unity and compiz have a reset option I would try that, be sure you find the one for your ubuntu release is all.
[03:41] <netlar> Beldar: So rebooting does not reset compiz?
[03:41] <Beldar> netlar, I would check it in the guest account as well.
[03:41] <netlar> oh yes, let me check that
[03:41] <Beldar> netlar, No compiz stays as is per boot
[03:43] <netlar> Beldar: The guest account is not showing the notification
[03:43] <Beldar> netlar, Hmm, this from the ubuntu repo or the ppa?
[03:43] <netlar> Beldar: I do have NotifiyOSD installed, maybe that is giving me problems
[03:43] <Beldar> netlar, I ask as if it were me I would try either.
[03:43] <netlar> Beldar: Ubuntu Repo
[03:44] <Beldar> netlar, I would check the ppa, might just be the same release is all.
[03:44] <netlar> Beldar: Just curious how all of a sudden, it does not work, when it worked just 5 min before
[03:46] <Beldar> netlar, No idea, to many outliers to even guess. the ppa has 3.18.4 the repos is 3.17 generally Idon't advise a ppa but seems harmless try here, you just want to know the ppa-purge process is all.
[03:48] <Beldar> netlar, the deprecated ppa refres to this ppa if your so inclined. https://launchpad.net/~pithos/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[03:48] <Beldar> refers*
[03:48] <netlar> Beldar: So do not install .3.18?
[03:50] <Basketball> Beldar,  are you good with bash scripts
[03:51] <Beldar> netlar, If it were me I would try it, but I know how to use ppa's and remove them with ppa-purge. Here is the ppa development page might be worth asking them. https://launchpad.net/~pithos
[03:51] <netlar> Beldar: I have removed pps befoe
[03:51] <netlar> ppa
[03:52] <netlar> Beldar: I probably have too many ppa's already
[03:53] <Beldar> netlar, With the gui being strange and no popup something is amiss, could be any number of issues really not an easy search for me I only have limited skills.
[03:54] <netlar> Beldar: I do appriciate the help
[03:54] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[03:54] <HikaruBG> I have a windows computer in my home network (in HOMEGROUP) with shared folders which I can't see from Ubuntu
[03:55] <HikaruBG> how to change my workgroup to Homegroup so I can see this folder?
[04:02] <netlar> Beldar: Well things have just esculated, now I cannot access the sound settings from the top panel
[04:02] <Beldar> netlar, This 14.04?
[04:02] <netlar> Yes, 14.04
[04:04] <Beldar> netlar, I would do a reset and than reboot, I have not used unity in a while but we see resets needed here on occasion. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[04:04] <agriyudhizt> anyone help me.... I cant update my backtrack .
[04:04] <somsip> !backtrack | agriyudhizt
[04:04] <Beldar> agriyudhizt, backtrack has been eol for a long time and not supported here.
[04:05] <netlar> Beldar: I am going to remove pithos and its ppa first
[04:05] <Beldar> netlar, use ppa-purge on the ppa
[04:06] <rolleiflex> hey, I'm packaging my app for ubuntu
[04:06] <rolleiflex> where does these binaries go?
[04:06] <rolleiflex> \/bin/?
[04:06] <somsip> !packaging | rolleiflex
[04:06] <netlar> Beldar: I used the sudo add-apt-repository --remove instead
[04:06] <rolleiflex> every time I come here somebody does this, this doesn't help
[04:06] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | netlar best use on ppa's
[04:07] <HikaruBG> hey guys
[04:07] <rolleiflex> that packaging link is geared towards fixing bugs in ubuntu, I'm trying to package my app
[04:07] <Beldar> netlar, having packages from a ppa can really mess stuff up, we see this on peoples release upgrades daily.
[04:07] <HikaruBG> I have a shared folder on Windows 7 machine. I can't see it from my Ubuntu
[04:07] <HikaruBG> why?
[04:07] <Beldar> and just general updates/upgrades
[04:07]  * ObrienDave now has pithos 1.0.0 from ppa
[04:08] <Beldar> is it purdy ObrienDave
[04:08] <ObrienDave> looks pretty much the same
[04:09] <somsip> rolleiflex: this link from there seems to tell you how to roll your own packages, and has links to reference manuals. Feel free to ask here, but you might be waiting for a while for a packaging expert which is maybe why you see the factoid when you ask http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[04:09] <netlar> ok, Beldar that fixed the sound settings
[04:10] <Beldar> netlar, one down one to go. ;)
[04:10] <rolleiflex> somsip: I see. the question I have is not about packaging, but about where does binaries go in general in ubuntu
[04:10] <rolleiflex> where do apps save their 'meat'
[04:10] <agriyudhizt> okeyy thnksss...
[04:10] <agriyudhizt> mm. how to update winhq???
[04:10] <HikaruBG> anyone on the network issue?
[04:10] <HikaruBG> sharing from Windows7 to Ubuntu
[04:10] <HikaruBG> ???
[04:10] <rolleiflex> I'm going to go put things in /bin/ but I'm pretty sure half the world will complain about that
[04:11] <netlar> I just reinstalled Pithos from the repo, still does not show notifications
[04:11] <HikaruBG> guys?
[04:11] <Beldar> agriyudhizt, kali is its hier, find them and use it.
[04:11] <somsip> rolleiflex: that sounds like a packaging issue if you are looking at distributing your own app. I'm not expert <shugs>
[04:11] <Beldar> heir*
[04:11] <ObrienDave> netlar, is show notifications checked?
[04:12] <netlar> ObrienDave: Yes
[04:12] <rolleiflex> somsip: oh well, if it's wrong, people will complain and I'll tell they should've answered my irc request. : P
[04:12] <SchrodingersScat> rolleiflex: you monster
[04:13] <rolleiflex> SchrodingersScat: represent
[04:13] <netlar> ObrienDave: I unchecked it and checked it, now it works
[04:13] <somsip> rolleiflex: then maybe this is of help, though I don't know if ubuntu follows its own variant to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[04:13] <rolleiflex> somsip: yeah, that's the general structure I think. nobody ever follows that exactly though
[04:14] <netlar> But now I worried, I am making my system unstable
[04:14] <Beldar> netlar, Heh, sometimes it is the easiest choice, a app written kinda loose is my guess.
[04:15] <netlar> Beldar: Is there anything I can do to check the health of my system?
[04:16] <Beldar> netlar, messing with this app should not make anything but it unstable, seems it may be already but not in any whole OS effect. O doubt your setup is unstable, best insurance is being backed up off the HD.
[04:16] <Beldar> O=I*
[04:17] <HikaruBG> !samba
[04:17] <netlar> Beldar: I do have several apps I installed through ppa's
[04:18] <netlar> How do you correctly purge ppa's again?
[04:18] <Beldar> netlar, Me to, depends on the apps and their dependencies.
[04:18] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | netlar
[04:19] <Beldar> I have ppa's from releases outside the one I use muhaha
[04:20] <netlar> Think I got carried away, found some great stuff not in the repo
[04:21] <cynicallemon> rolleiflex: the BSD's follow the traditional files structure
[04:21] <Beldar> netlar, It happens, just part of the learning curve if you have issues and can empirically link them.
[04:22] <netlar> Link them?
[04:22] <config_> OerHeks: Do you know how to use logrotate so that it creates as many log.1,2,3,45,6,7,8,9,..., each of fixed size, so that in sum total they are under a total fixed size (example: 10MB or 10GB).
[04:22] <config_> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples/
[04:22] <config_> Does anyone?
[04:23] <netlar> Beldar: So compiz gets corrupted sometimes?
[04:23] <Beldar> netlar, For example you do a update/upgrade or a distro upgrade and see errors and they are due to a package or packages from a ppa.
[04:24] <netlar> Beldar: never noticed any yet
[04:24] <somsip> config_: I would expect by limiting the size of each logfile, and the total number of logfiles. Eg rotate 10 and size=1M would limit the size to 10M.
[04:25] <netlar> Beldar: Well shoot, Pithos not showing the pop ups anymore
[04:25] <netlar> Beldar: Man this is crazy, now it is back
[04:25] <Beldar> netlar, to loose a question for me, to broad, any thing can become corrupted at any time would be the best answer I think of. I reason through the scientific method, critical thinking, the only time this differs is in qualitative research rather than quantitative
[04:26] <Beldar> on a good day anyway. ;)
[04:27] <netlar> Beldar: I am learning quickly that Linux/Ubuntu is not going to be a mystery, like Windows
[04:27] <netlar> Windows can be such a black box
[04:28] <Beldar> netlar, Depends on how far you get, but I find it fairly easy to work with. I started with open source though and follow some rules that keep it simple.
[04:28] <config_> somsip: But I would like to compress all the log files except for the one that is currently being written to (the main, most recent one).
[04:28] <config_> ?
[04:29] <Beldar> netlar, I'm an armchair user however not an IT person so backups and clones fix all my problems if I hit a brick wall.
[04:29] <somsip> config_: so you want the compressed size to be the limit?
[04:29] <config_> yes
[04:29] <config_> somsip: yes.
[04:29] <netlar> Beldar: I need to start doing that, soon
[04:30] <netlar> Beldar: Only installed this last week
[04:31] <_> hello
[04:31] <Beldar> netlar, Takes awhile I have been using ubuntu since 2007 when I returned to college and needed a computer, just happened to get open source is all. ny way this is all offtopic, you will do fine I suspect.
[04:31] <Beldar> Any*
[04:31] <somsip> config_: I'd suggest looking at a postrotate script to delete compressed files that take the total size of (compressed files + current log max size) > total size you want
[04:32] <netlar> Well thanks, take care Beldar
[04:32] <Beldar> you to
[04:33] <treats> I'm getting a red alert in top bar. "Update information out of date"  I've recently updated, and I have good clean access to internet.  Shoudl I be concerned??
[04:33] <Beldar> treats, What release and have you run a update today?
[04:34] <treats> 14.04 lts -- just restarted a couple hours ago
[04:34] <treats> after a update
[04:34] <Beldar> treats, what desktop?
[04:34] <config_> somsip: well, I actually need the logs to be deleted in order - the log that gets deleted should be the one that's been around the longest.
[04:34] <treats> how do I know?
[04:34] <linuxlid> how to upgrade to gevent 1.1 ?
[04:34] <config_> somsip: and do you recommend any specific utilitie(s) for compressing the logs?
[04:34] <somsip> config_: I understand. So write a postrotate script to do that.
[04:35] <Beldar> treats, No Karnack cap?
[04:35] <config_> somsip: okay.
[04:35] <somsip> config_: let logrorate compress them, surely?
[04:35] <treats> not that I know of Beldar
[04:36] <ObrienDave> *zoom*
[04:36] <Beldar> treats, A notification if all is well means a security update in gneral.
[04:36] <config_> somsip: they're using an existing utility for that, right?
[04:36] <somsip> config_: you are capable of looking that up
[04:36] <config_> somsip: Okay, thanks.
[04:37] <Beldar> treats, updates are released daily and at any time in ubuntu.
[04:37] <Beldar> or can be anyway
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> for those who want, firefox installed new faster update: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/firefox-32-released-whats-new
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> hmm still showing 31
[04:40] <rww> lotuspsychje: aiui, that data's updated by a cronjob periodically
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> rww: ah ok tnx
[04:40] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, 24hrs to long for you?
[04:40]  * ObrienDave has firefox 32
[04:40] <somsip> lotuspsychje: launchpad show 32. Let it propogate maybe...
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> rww: just updated :p
[04:43] <jayvi> what does this mean? "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory..."
[04:43] <jayvi> it happens every time i try to apt-get update
[04:44] <Beldar> treats, Do you have a panel on the left of the screen?
[04:45] <treats> Beldar: yes
[04:45] <hakermania> !time
[04:45] <a_random_person> The time here is 2014-09-03 07:45
[04:46] <Beldar> treats, Cool, that is the ubuntu desktop called unity, just info.
[04:46] <hakermania> !whoami
[04:46] <a_random_person> That's easy. You're hakermania. You thought I wouldn't know?
[04:47] <user123321> Please help, my machine again crashed at 10.10 display time with no response, recovered with ctrl+alt+prtsc+R+I+U+S+B. Kernel log around that time: http://pastebin.com/dkS92jui
[04:48] <agriyudhizt> I've hdd bad sector after install gnome in kali..
[04:48] <jayvi> can someone tell me plz what this means? it tells me to use apt-get update when im done but it only appears after i aprt-get update
[04:48] <user123321> Are there other types of logs I could check?
[04:48] <jayvi> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[04:48] <Beldar> user123321, Looks like swapping
[04:48] <rww> !whoami
[04:48] <a_random_person> That's easy. You're rww. You thought I wouldn't know?
[04:48] <rww> sigh.
[04:48] <user123321> Beldar, Because of this line? "Corrupted low memory at ffff880000006598 (6598 phys) = 100000000000"
[04:48] <Guest18616> could be hrd disk error
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> !kali | agriyudhizt
[04:49] <a_random_person> Hm? I don't know this command... yet. So, better take this fortune:
[04:49] <a_random_person> You two ought to be more careful--your love could drag on for years and years.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> rww: seems like you have a new shadow bot :p
[04:49] <ObrienDave> what, a random response bot? lol
[04:49] <Beldar> user123321, Just a guess here.
[04:50] <rww> lotuspsychje: Yep, already asked the user to remove it :)
[04:50] <user123321> Beldar, I see.
[04:51] <herpderphurr> Hi all. whenever I try to enter keywords for images in Geeqie, it enters only 1 letter per keyword (as if a newline is inserted between each keypress). It also prevents me from entering a letter twice until I hit a bunch of other letters first. Writing the keywords into a text file and then copy-pasting it into the keyword section on Geeqie works, though.
[04:51] <Beldar> user123321, swapping does feel like a crash however, could be a failing memory, I would set the swappiness to 10 if this is the issue.
[04:51] <user123321> Beldar, shall I try disabling swap?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can take spaces out of a txt file automaticly?
[04:52] <Beldar> user123321, When this happened did you have a lot of stuff running?
[04:52] <jayvi> so for real 1500 people and nobody can just type a one sentence response -_-
[04:52] <SirLagz> lotuspsychje: you could use something like sed to do that.
[04:52] <jayvi> to what this is no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> SirLagz: tnx mate
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !patience | jayvi
[04:53] <user123321> Beldar, I was using Firefox.
[04:53] <Beldar> jayvi, Some random error with no real details and your complaining?
[04:53] <rww> jayvi: second result in google for that error message: http://askubuntu.com/questions/465004/warning-message-at-command-line-sudo
[04:53] <jayvi> not complaining never used linux comes up every time 3 days with no answer
[04:54] <jayvi> thx yall
[04:54] <rww> I assume you're doing sudo apt-get etc., and it's the sudo bit causing it, not apt-get
[04:54] <Beldar> !swap | user123321 look at swappiness
[04:55] <Beldar> user123321, Maybe run a memory check.
[04:55] <user123321> Beldar, You mean a RAM check? Should I have run it when the crash happened or would it have any effect now?
[04:58] <user123321> Beldar, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1350836
[04:58] <user123321> ^this guys has DV6 too :O
[04:58] <user123321> guy*
[05:00] <Beldar> user123321, I see a number of issues on this exact error, I saw that one while looking, not really something I can suggest beyond what I have which is a low level start.
[05:00] <herpderphurr> Hi everyone. I'm looking to post my question on the forums to help give it some time for people to take a look at. Where would a good board be for asking questions about Geeqie, the image and photo viewing/tagging application?
[05:01] <Beldar> herpderphurr, Appears to have a dbg package
[05:02] <Beldar> ubuntu forums is the biggest forum
[05:03] <herpderphurr> Beldar: Would it be good to post it to "New to Ubuntu" or "Multimedia"? I would have guessed Multimedia, but it seems multi's more about video and audio rather than images.
[05:03] <user123321> Beldar, Should this be error independent of the Ubuntu flavour? Because I'm running LUbuntu now, should there be any reason to change to Ubuntu?
[05:04] <Beldar> herpderphurr, I would post it in the general, if the mods think otherwise they will move it.
[05:04] <herpderphurr> Beldar: All right. thanks!
[05:05] <Beldar> user123321, No idea really, I would start with setting the swappiness lower and checking the ram if it were me.
[05:05] <Beldar> could be a graphic issue as suggested, no idea really
[05:06] <user123321> Cool, ok. Do you see any harm disabling swap entirely? (other than low mem :p)
[05:07] <Beldar> user123321, No harm, but you can check if swapping, I have a conky that shows it. I would want more exacting info.
[05:07] <Loshki> user123321: Is it this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557604
[05:11] <user123321> Beldar, Cool
[05:11] <jak2000> this permission: -rw-r--r-- is: 644 ? right?
[05:11] <user123321> Loshki, My kernal log: http://pastebin.com/dkS92jui
[05:11] <Ben64> jak2000: figure it out using binary 421 421 421
[05:12] <Loshki> user123321: saw it, noticed the low memory corruption msg. That thread says it's a kernel bug. Did I get it wrong?
[05:12] <Beldar> user123321, best thing I ever did in a hardware sense was get a SSD however swapping is not even noticed, makes the 5 year old toshiba laptop run like a champ.
[05:12] <Loshki> Beldar: because it's so fast?
[05:13] <Beldar> Loshki, A bit faster but does not get sowed down like a spinning HD is all in specific circumstances.
[05:13] <Beldar> slowed*
[05:13] <jak2000> Ben64 thanks
[05:15] <Beldar> Loshki, More uniformity really.
[05:15] <Loshki> Beldar: interesting, might try it on an old dell laptop which gets bogged down easily...
[05:16] <user123321> How about using sysrq to dump task info and stack traces when a crash happens? Hmm I'd have to learn the key combinations from https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
[05:16] <Loshki> user123321: in case it's a kernel bug, try a different kernel version first....
[05:17] <user123321> an older version? hmm.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> can i disable these startup deamons safely: speech-dispatcher,kerneloops,rsync,ppd-dns,dns-clean?
[05:23] <nationalsecurity> hello
[05:23] <expunge> hi nat
[05:23] <nationalsecurity> hw was ur sleep
[05:23] <expunge> lotuspsychje: I don't know them, but the only ones that really make me wonder are the dns ones
[05:23] <expunge> nationalsecurity: yet to be had =)
[05:23] <expunge> yours?
[05:23] <cooln> hello
[05:24] <nationalsecurity> you now going to hv ur rest
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> expunge: im just trying to speed up boot time, by disabling unwanted deamons
[05:24] <nationalsecurity> what is the timethere  now
[05:24] <expunge> lotuspsychje: best way to speedup boot time is by not rebooting
[05:24] <cooln> 13:24
[05:24] <expunge> nationalsecurity: 'bout 2230
[05:24] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: kerneloops may be useful to keep running, the other ones are fine to disable if you don't use text-to-speech, rsync or ppp
[05:25] <nationalsecurity> ok
[05:25] <expunge> I was going to stay up tonight, having little second thoughts, though =P
[05:25] <cooln> and you???
[05:25] <nationalsecurity> is 5.30amhere in GHANA
[05:25] <expunge> mmm, ghana
[05:25] <expunge> gj in the world cup
[05:25] <nationalsecurity> YEAH
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: tnx mate
[05:25] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: also, get an ssd. Boot time is amazing on those. My laptop boots in less than 30 seconds, including typing my password twice (encrypted harddrive and login)
[05:26] <nationalsecurity> YES
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: i already got a samsung evo on trusty 64bit, all tweaked up :p
[05:30] <pam> I'm looking for a BASIC text editor...that is native to Ubuntu..that is similar to wordpad.  It has to allow me to open multiple instances at once...and not be extremely boated...Open Office won't work...
[05:30] <expunge> pam: gedit
[05:31] <expunge> openoffice (libreoffice now) being an office suite and not an editor =)
[05:31] <pam> expunge:  whoops..meant to say it needs to have formatting (bold, underline, etc)
[05:32] <pam> I'm looking for a BASIC text editor...that has formatting (bold, underline, italics, etc)...that is native to Ubuntu..that is similar to wordpad.  It has to allow me to open multiple instances at once...and not be extremely boated...Open Office won't work...
[05:33] <expunge> pam: oh a word processor
[05:33] <expunge> pam: abiword
[05:38] <Beldar> pam, The not bloated argument is has no real definition, it is a over used term.
[05:39] <pam> beldar: tl;dr
[05:39] <expunge> oh I can define it
[05:39] <expunge> you just diff the file space used by libreoffice vs that used by abiword
[05:39] <expunge> and that's bloat =) for a word processor
[05:40] <Beldar> lol, it is a noob term at best
[05:41] <expunge> it's an old word, predates newb
[05:41] <necro606_> I am trying to install a run file, but the installer stopped at 100%. what did I do wrong or what did I miss.
[05:41] <expunge> necro606_: I'd have to say, running a .run file at all
[05:42] <pam> haha..j/k by not bloated I meant something that was as small as wordpad
[05:42] <Beldar> expunge, Such an erudite argument like all yours are. ;)
[05:42] <expunge> so true
[05:43] <Beldar> sigh tweenies
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: this was very usefull http://askubuntu.com/questions/310337/which-startup-applications-can-i-safely-disable
[05:45] <necro606_> Ok, the Installer just froze up on me and it finished just fine. sry about that. Next time i will be a bit more patient..
[05:51] <kernix> hey all
[05:51] <pam> thanks all...night
[05:56] <djdr1988> I am a new linux user, and I am having an issue with install. I am running and istalling from USB. Installation says it completes successfully, however when i restart the computer, I get "error: attempt to read or writ outside of disk "hd0" entering rescue mode. It runs just fine from usb, how can I get the installed boot to run?
[05:57] <expunge> djdr1988: you dual booting?
[05:57] <Corvette> How do you enter special characters in ubuntu?
[05:58] <Corvette> Like if you want to speak in italian?
[05:58] <djdr1988> no. I was unable to get windows to reinstall on this laptop, it kept freezing, so i decided to do a single boot of only ubuntu
[05:58] <expunge> Corvette: switch your keyboard layout if you want to do it a lot
[05:59] <Seveas> Corvette: I use alt as a compose key so accented characters are, for instance, <alt> ~ n  -> ñ
[06:00] <expunge> the us international layout would get you that
[06:00] <Corvette> So to do that I have to switch to us international layout
[06:00] <Corvette> because when i do that now it brings up alt tab
[06:02] <[L]ight> djdr1998: It's a BIOS limit error.
[06:03] <djdr1988> [L]ight: is there a fix for it?
[06:03] <[L]ight> djdr1998: Try performing manual partitioning at installation menu.
[06:04] <[L]ight> djdr1998: for /, the root partition, allocate 10 to 15GB. 1 to 2 GB for swap.
[06:05] <djdr1988> [L]ight: ok. is there anything else i should be aware of during istallation?
[06:05] <[L]ight> djdr1998: for /home partition, try using between 10 to 10^6 GB.
[06:06] <djdr1988> [L]ight: I have to make multiple partitions?
[06:06] <[L]ight> djdr1998: My guess is your BIOS is old.
[06:07] <[L]ight> djdr1998: You could leave out swap, though it doesn't hurt to have it.
[06:07] <djdr1988> [L]ight: it is an older laptop. It was running windows, but after windows crashed it wouldnt let me reinstall it, I changed HDD and it still wouldnt work
[06:09] <djdr1988> [L]ight: thank you for the advice. I will try that.
[06:11] <[L]ight> djdr1998: If you're not familiar with manual partitioning, please read up on it first.
[06:12] <saleem> i get a black screen on ubuntu precise livecd , tried many cheatcodes but i get no display , i have nvidia geforece gt 540 card , whats the fix to go to desktop ?
[06:12] <[L]ight> saleem: define blackscreen.
[06:13] <saleem> black screen as black screen nothing but a black screen no display , i searched on google this had been reprted by many already but there is no apparent fix
[06:14] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset | saleem
[06:15] <[L]ight> saleem
[06:15] <saleem> ObrienDave, i tried nomodeset modeset=0 and nouveau.modeset=0 cheats already but that black screen comes back
[06:15] <djdr1988> [L]ight: I am having problems with the partition utility. I dont fully understand how it works. I setup two seperate partitions, and it keeps saying root partition not defined. I am unable to figure out how to make one the root partition
[06:16] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, make the smaller one mount as /
[06:16] <ObrienDave> add a boot flag also
[06:17] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: Now it says that it cant mount to fat32. What type should i mount it as?
[06:17] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, make the larger one mount as /home
[06:17] <ObrienDave> ext4
[06:18] <[L]ight> djdr1998: ext4
[06:18] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: ok. should I mount both partitions as ext4?
[06:18] <ObrienDave> yes
[06:23] <djdr1988> ObrienDavis: I still have around 292 GB available on the HDD. do i need to partition that or will it be available for use in ubuntu without partioin it?
[06:27] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, add that to your /home partition
[06:27] <[L]ight> djdr1998: otherwise it'll be free space.
[06:28] <djdr1988> ok. so I didnt see a /swap so I didnt partition that, so I have a / partition and a /home partition. Is that all I need?
[06:29] <ObrienDave> unallocated space is not usable by any OS afaik
[06:29] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, yup, that should do
[06:29] <djdr1988> and it says boot loader is /dev/sdb is that correct?
[06:30] <djdr1988> there is no space allocated to that
[06:30] <[L]ight> ObrienDave: he needs a boot partition doesn't he?
[06:30] <ObrienDave> ummm, how many drives in your system?
[06:30] <djdr1988> just the one
[06:31] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, are you running from USB stick now?
[06:31] <djdr1988> yes I m
[06:31] <djdr1988> am
[06:31] <ObrienDave> [L]ight, / will be the boot partition
[06:32] <[L]ight> I c.
[06:32] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, did you flag / as boot?
[06:32] <djdr1988> I havent, I will change that real quick
[06:33] <bubbasaures> Usb's and hd's get reversed check it to be sure.
[06:33] <djdr1988> now it is suggesting a /swap, but I didnt see that option in the drop box. How do I set that up?
[06:34] <Patman> I had 30 people try a Ubuntu live CD. They all complained any said it was impossible to use
[06:34] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, how much RAM do you have?
[06:34] <djdr1988> 1GB
[06:34] <[L]ight> djdr1998: set swap as twice of RAM.
[06:34] <[L]ight> djdr1998: 2048MB.
[06:35] <ObrienDave> make /swap at least = to or larger at the END of the drive
[06:35] <ObrienDave> *than RAM
[06:35] <bubbasaures> Partman, and this means what in a support channel?
[06:35] <[L]ight> djdr1998: Swap will be used as extra ram in case RAM runs out of memory.
[06:35] <bubbasaures> Err Patman
[06:36] <ObrienDave> Patman, i have always had better luck using Live DVD than USB stick. don't know what to tell you
[06:36] <djdr1988> Ok. That makes sense, but /swap is not listed in the "mount to" box. Where would I find it?
[06:36] <ObrienDave> you format /swap as swap
[06:37] <Patman> It was the ubuntu interface they couldn't work out.
[06:37] <ObrienDave> Patman, same as all the other Ubuntus
[06:37] <Barneyy> Hi guys, I have a Windows 8 on Computer A and Windows 8 on Computer B, I want to install ubuntu 14.04 to Computer B, but USB boot and CD/DVD Boot not work. I want to try Network booting, Computer A and B are in same Local network. Do you have any idea ?
[06:38] <Barneyy> Simply I want to install Ubuntu from a Windows Network. Is is possible ?
[06:38] <Patman> i guess yea unity seems like xfce with less features
[06:38] <Patman> just kidding xfce is a bit easier to use
[06:38] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: I found it, I thought it was a "mount to" . Thank you for your help. Thank you [L]ight as well.
[06:38] <bubbasaures> yeah right
[06:39] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, good luck, let us know how it went for you
[06:39] <bubbasaures> Patman chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: Thanks, I will after this installation attempt
[06:39]  * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu ;P
[06:40] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, we'll be here
[06:40]  * [L]ight runs Arch 
[06:40]  * jnhghy runs.
[06:41] <ObrienDave> jnhghy, you do and you'll clean it up ;P
[06:41] <bubbasaures> Barneyy, W8 with uefi is a bit different install wise, I would not try a network install, and check tue disk and usb.
[06:42] <Redtherm> Hello. Q: Has anyone managed to circumvent the relatively well-known issue of NVidia drivers and 14.04? I have tried a large multitude of the AskUbuntu-proposed solutions without any luck.
[06:42] <ikonia> Redtherm: what well known issue ?
[06:43] <Ben64> i was about to ask the same thing
[06:43] <ObrienDave> you both beat me to it ;P
[06:43] <Redtherm> That a lot of people, myself included, haven't been able to install Nvidia drivers.
[06:43] <Ariel_Winter> so, I posted an issue that I have on r/linux4noobs but wanted to know if anyone here can help me with this http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/2fc3p0/setting_up_ubuntu_server_with_2_hdd_using_ntfs_as/
[06:43] <Ben64> Redtherm: can you get more specific
[06:44] <ikonia> Redtherm: thats certainly not a known problem
[06:44] <ikonia> Redtherm: why don't you explain your problem
[06:44] <[L]ight> Redtherm: Kindly define "problem".
[06:44] <RoBo_V> Guys started out as primary OS linux, ditching windows (or for gaming only)  (Inspired when worked with debian CLI on raspberry pi - felt much power)   so  ubuntu is good to start with?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> Redtherm, and your system, briefly
[06:44] <RoBo_V> starting*
[06:44] <Redtherm> I'll try. One moment.
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: it is a good and proven linux distribution
[06:45] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Yes. Or Mint. Just avoid Debian.
[06:45] <ikonia> there is nothing wrong with debian
[06:45] <d4rk_f0rc3> indeed
[06:45] <[L]ight> ikonia: Not user friendly.
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: try some distros from livecd's to get an idea of what you like,
[06:45] <RoBo_V> but ubuntu is debian, is in it ?
[06:45] <Guest7966> So does anybody have any bitcoin mning interface ideas for ubuntu 13.10?
[06:45] <ikonia> [L]ight: yes it is
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: no
[06:45] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Based on.
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: try a few distros see what you like/do'nt like then pick the one that works best for you
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: don't rush in and try to make the first one "the one" you use, try a few
[06:46] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Nope, Debian is definitely not recommended for new users.
[06:46] <Redtherm> Intel Celeron J1900, 2GHz, Quad-Core, 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz (max 8GB), NVIDIA GeForce 820M 512MB
[06:46] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, Ubuntu is an excellent OS based on Debian. a lot of new users like it very much
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: [L]ight is talking nonsense, debian is fine for new users
[06:46] <Guest7966> I'm just trying to find out if anybody has heard about non-openCL mining for ubuntu
[06:46] <Ben64> debian can work fine for new users, as can ubuntu, or mint, or just about anything else. use what you like, we can't make the choice for you
[06:46] <greeter> i'm an experienced user and i've had the best experiences with using ubuntu. but you should check out several, get a feel for what you like best
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: do some research, pick a few and give them a spin
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: if you need help with ubuntu, come to this channel and ask
[06:47] <RoBo_V> I see, well im not very new to linux. But yes little above beginner.
[06:47] <Redtherm> I've installed a fresh 14.04 ubuntu, but the intel chip is running the graphics, I gather. I attempted to get the NVidia drivers, older, newer, curren and anything in between with several types of installations, but none of them work, at all.
[06:47] <Guest7966> is there a channel for bitcoin miners?
[06:47] <ikonia> Redtherm: why are you getting nvidiia drivers if you are using an intel chip ?
[06:47] <greeter> get some live cds of a few distros, or perhaps set up vm's for them if what you want doesn't have a live cd
[06:47] <ikonia> Guest7966: nothing to do with this channel,
[06:47] <[L]ight> ikonia: Depends on how you perceive it.
[06:48] <ikonia> [L]ight: what ?
[06:48] <Guest7966> sorry man, I'm totally new to ubuntu  just trying to learn
[06:48] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Might wanna avoid Arch and Gentoo.
[06:48] <RoBo_V> Guest7966: #bitcoin-mining
[06:48] <Redtherm> My graphics card is NVidia, and I think the processor has some sort of a backup chip in it, which is rather useless.
[06:48] <Guest7966> tahnks Robo_V
[06:48] <djdr1988> is ubuntu the easiest one to use on a general basis?
[06:48] <ikonia> Redtherm: so this is an optimus card ?
[06:48] <Guest7966> thanks*
[06:48] <ikonia> djdr1988: no more/less
[06:48] <Valarkin_> Good morning. I could really use some help getting a 14.04 server install configged properly for the web
[06:48] <[L]ight> djdr1998: One of the easiest. Mint too.
[06:49] <djdr1988> ok. I am new to linux in general, everyone talks about it being better than windows, and windows failed me again, so gifured I would give it a try
[06:50] <Valarkin_> Linux will be better than Windows when you can do a defaulyt install without a degree in Linux ;)
[06:50] <Redtherm> I'm not exactly sure. My computer isn't a notebook, it's a izarro box.
[06:50] <Redtherm> *bizarro
[06:50] <Patman> djdr1988: try linuxmint or pclinuxos. Ubuntus a headache
[06:50] <RoBo_V> I see guys ikonia [L]ight ,  I think i will go with ubuntu or from mint
[06:50] <[L]ight> Patman: Troll.
[06:50] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, better, best, etc, are subjective to your likes/dislikes and experiences with other OSes
[06:50] <ikonia> Redtherm: I don't know what a bizarro box is
[06:50] <RoBo_V> both "apt-get" right ?
[06:51] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Both uses apt package manager.
[06:51] <Ben64> RoBo_V: just a tip, if you like this support channel, don't pick mint
[06:51] <Redtherm> I simply mean it's a rather weird computer.
[06:51] <ikonia> Redtherm: what's weird about it ?
[06:51] <RoBo_V> Ben64: well im kinda liking this support you guys giving
[06:51] <RoBo_V> thank you all
[06:52] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: yeah, I understand that, so far I really like having this channel available for help. This is also my first time on anything IRC
[06:52] <RoBo_V> I have GTX 660 ti, no problem finding drivers for it on Ubuntu ?
[06:52] <ikonia> RoBo_V: should be well suppported
[06:52] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, if you like the support, use *buntu flavors
[06:52] <RoBo_V> ObrienDave: what is that ?
[06:52] <Valarkin_> could someone help me through troubleshooting my web server?
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: ask a question then
[06:53] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Derivatives of ubuntu.
[06:53] <Valarkin_> it seems to want to serve php raw rather than process irt
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: we don't know ifi we can help until you state what help you need
[06:53] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc
[06:53] <Valarkin_> I just did :D
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: no you've not
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: explain the problem
[06:53] <Valarkin_> I would give more detail but I am unsure what those details are.
[06:53] <Redtherm> It's an ASUS Eeebox, which doesn't have any bells or whistles, including a DVD drive and so on.
[06:53] <RoBo_V> oh ok ObrienDave differnt desktop s right ?
[06:53] <RoBo_V> But i think i will go with default one for now
[06:53] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Different desktop environments, yes. Along with different software suites for most.
[06:54] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, yes, same core system, different DEs. I use Xubuntu, XFCE
[06:54] <ikonia> Redtherm: this sounds like an optimus video card, but I'd need to check, what is the model of the video card
[06:54] <Valarkin_> I've done a new instll of 14.04. Followed a guide to install things. It wors fine until I ttry to get ruTorrent working then it shows an error and raw hunproicessred php
[06:54] <Valarkin_> wow unprocessed*
[06:54] <ikonia> Valarkin_: what guide did you follow
[06:55] <Valarkin_> http://blog.slowb.ro/2013/06/20/howto-setup-a-multi-user-ubuntu-seedbox ikonia
[06:55] <Redtherm> NVIDIA GeForce 820M 512MB
[06:55] <RoBo_V> im going into the sould of linux watched some history or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxjElWL8igo  and Liked the free software moment and hence the open soruce concept.
[06:55] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Do try out the command line when you have time.
[06:55] <ikonia> Valarkin_: very very very bad guide
[06:55] <Valarkin_> got to "Now to add some aliases to make things easier." - added the aliases to bash.rc but they do not seem to work.
[06:56] <Valarkin_> Sigh.
[06:56] <Valarkin_> BEst I've found thus far
[06:56] <RoBo_V> [L]ight: that what inspired me  (i was using CLI on raspberyr pi) and felt it was so powerful.
[06:56] <ikonia> Valarkin_: just terrible.
[06:56] <Valarkin_> Any recommnedations?
[06:57] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I'd recommend re-installing your machine (if it's local to you) and just using packages provided by ubuntu if possible rather than that junk guide
[06:58] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you don't have to re-install your machine, but if you've not done anything to it yet, it may be quicker to get it to a clean state after messing around with that guide
[06:58]  * RoBo_V downloading Ubuntu 14.04.1-desktop x64, New Begining
[06:58] <Valarkin_> it is using core packages - what specifically is wrong with it?
[06:58] <Valarkin_> I do not mind the reinstall - I've been through 13 already ;)
[06:58] <Valarkin_> It is more than a little maddening though.
[06:58] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it puts lots of junk packages on there, it doesn't really do a good setup of the webserver it pulls down torrent packages from tar files and doesn't setup and security
[06:58] <rainbowwarrior> Hello , I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 via a terminal in Opensuse 13.1 with debootstrap and I get this error " E: Failed getting release file http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/dists/trusty/Release "  and when I looked for it using Firefox it gave me a 404 Not Found error
[06:59] <ObrienDave> Valarkin_, lucky number 14 coming up :))
[06:59] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: using wget?
[06:59] <rainbowwarrior> Anyone know how I can solve my problem please ?
[06:59] <Valarkin_> Gotcha - unfortunately I'm not cluied in enough to know what I need and do not.  Linux has come a long way since Slackware
[06:59] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: do a normal intsall
[06:59] <Valarkin_> but....
[06:59] <Redtherm> There's a bunch of these, reading through them might be a lot of work, but it's something a bunch of people seem to be struggling with.
[06:59] <Redtherm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1288572
[07:00] <ikonia> Redtherm: gnome shell is nothing to do with your issue
[07:00] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: scratch that. I misread.
[07:00] <javaisnotlinux> Does anyone's System log program show the incorrect dates for the logs in the sidebar?
[07:00] <javaisnotlinux> I am using ubuntu 14.04.1
[07:00] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : I can't otherwise I would hence why I am trying to do it via debootstrap
[07:01] <ikonia> Redtherm: that card dooesn't appear to be an optimus card
[07:01] <ikonia> Redtherm: you may find it easier to just disable the intel graphics card in your bios
[07:01] <javaisnotlinux> Is it ok to remove gnome-system-log as it shows the incorrect dates anayway
[07:01] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : no problem
[07:01] <javaisnotlinux> will it mess up my system
[07:02] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Can't you just burn the iso to a usb or CD?
[07:02] <Redtherm> ikonia: thanks for taking the time. I'll see what I can do. :)
[07:02] <Redtherm> Reboot.
[07:03] <Valarkin_> ikonia - do you know a good base install guide? If I can get the server configged properlay at the base I can then see about getting the toehr gubbins
[07:03] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I'm not aware of guides
[07:04] <Valarkin_> so where should a noob turn for guidance?
[07:04] <ikonia> just ask people
[07:04] <Valarkin_> I am :D
[07:04] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : I have a dvd but I can not get into the bios on my Acer Aspire V5 571P laptop as the screen is broken and I am using an AOC monitor via HDMI and it keeps booting into OpenSuse , I have tried to get into Ubuntu but it hangs on the login screen and ctrl+alt+f1 just reboots my laptop
[07:04] <ikonia> research what's needed for what you want and ask people to help you
[07:04] <Valarkin_> "Do a new install" is a bit general
[07:05] <helmut_> hi
[07:05] <ikonia> Valarkin_: no-one said that is the solution
[07:05] <Valarkin_>  Valarkin_: I'd recommend re-installing your machine (if it's local to you) and just using packages provided by ubuntu if possible rather than that junk guide
[07:05] <ikonia> Valarkin_: then read the rest of what I said
[07:06] <albert__> yes
[07:06] <Valarkin_>  Valarkin_: you don't have to re-install your machine, but if you've not done anything to it yet, it may be quicker to get it to a clean state after messing around with that guide
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you don't need to paste everything - read the whole conversation
[07:07] <Valarkin_> well, I have done a lot, so a new install is easire
[07:07] <Valarkin_> but then what.
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: research what components are needed to do what you want, then ask for help in setting them up
[07:07] <Valarkin_> getting to a base install is the easy part. knowing what i need and do not is harder
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: or find documentation on how to set each one up
[07:07] <Valarkin_> this is my last stop, not my first in terms of research
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it does't appear that way
[07:07] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Try a different mirror.
[07:08] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it appears you are just following guides blindly
[07:08] <Valarkin_> Appearances can be decieving
[07:08] <Valarkin_> knowing what to look for is half the problem
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> Hi can someone check their gnome system log application which is pre-installed on ubuntu. I think there it s bug
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> where the dates in the side bar don't match the dates in the log
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> either that...or I have been hacked?
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> perhaps
[07:09] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: please don't make such random things up like "I've been hacked"
[07:09] <Valarkin_> Not blindly - I looked at every line of that guide, checked the packages etc on the web
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: ok
[07:10] <javaisnotlinux> I would just like to understand what has happend, and wether it is a bug or not
[07:10] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: have you checked your system time ?
[07:10] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: have you checked the actual file logs match
[07:11] <Valarkin_> ah, to forget what it means to be new.
[07:11] <[L]ight> javascript: something wrong with your time synchro?
[07:11] <ikonia> Valarkin_: what ?
[07:11] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: the actually logs when viewing them using less seem to have dates that make sense
[07:11] <javaisnotlinux> The system time is the current time
[07:11] <Valarkin_> Since we are taling about 'seems' - it seems you are more interested in holding forth than helping
[07:12] <ikonia> Valarkin_: what ?
[07:12] <Valarkin_> Did I mumble?
[07:12] <javaisnotlinux> Could this be a bug in the gnone-system-log
[07:12] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I don't understand what you're saying
[07:12] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: ok, so look at your system clock, does that have the right time ?
[07:13] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: check the basics first before assuming bugs
[07:13] <Valarkin_> It seems you are more interested in being condescending and dismissive than helpful.
[07:13] <javaisnotlinux> Yes, it does have the correct time
[07:13] <ikonia> Valarkin_: well good luck getting help then,
[07:13] <Valarkin_> I was having any prior to being honest?
[07:13] <ikonia> Valarkin_: as you can see I'm pretty active in helping people
[07:14] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I don't understand what you're saying, sorry
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: ok, so that's a good start
[07:14] <Valarkin_> I am asking for noob guidance
[07:14] <Valarkin_> you say: go learn linux
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: find an eveny in gnome-system-log
[07:14] <ikonia> Valarkin_: no-one said that
[07:14] <[L]ight> Valarkin_: Google. Stop whining please.
[07:14] <cina> how do I open port :3000 using iptables? I have done this it it has been added but still I cannot access 3000 from the outside. the command I used: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 3000 -j ACCEPT
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: then find the event in the log file
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: see if the time stamps match up
 Valarkin_: research what components are needed to do what you want, then ask for help in setting them up
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:06] <Valarkin_> getting to a base install is the easy part. knowing what i need and do not is harder
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:06] <ikonia> Valarkin_: or find documentation on how to set each one up
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:06] <Valarkin_> this is my last stop, not my first in terms of research
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it does't appear that way
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:07] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Try a different mirror.
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it appears you are just following guides blindly
[07:15] <ikonia> cina: that looks a good rule
[07:15] <unopaste> Valarkin_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:15] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: could I type 'logger hello world', and see if it in both gnome-system-log and the actual logs using less?
[07:16] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: that's a good test
[07:16] <salah_> Hi, I have a server where I want to block ALL requests from Chinese and Russian domains/IPs. What is the simplest way to do this?
[07:16] <Valarkin_> I came to you with a specific problem : the server is serving raw php instead of processing it
[07:16] <ikonia> salah_: firewall their IP range
[07:16] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that specific issue is because the event handler for apache isi not parsing php
[07:16] <Valarkin_> you've told me to do a reinstall and to research
[07:16] <cina> ikonia: does the order of rules matter? there seems to be a REJECT line before that, like this: REJECT  all -- *  * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 reject-with icmp-host-prohibited
[07:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that could be because the extension is wrong, or the module is not loaded
[07:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I told you to do a re-install because the guide you are following is poor, I also stated you do not have to do a re-install,
[07:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: so stop making things up and making out like you've been treated poorly
[07:17] <Valarkin_> if I have done nothing to the system - which i have
[07:17] <ikonia> cina: the rules matter yes, as if rule 1 sets something and rule 2 unsets it, it's not set
[07:18] <Valarkin_> the problem isnt the reinstall its the effort after that and i can not find a straightforward resource for a noob in that regard
[07:18] <Valarkin_> forgive my frustration but this has been a week already ;)
[07:18] <royalaxe> hi guys, has anyone else had this problem > double click on a usb device and ghex opens... unplug plug back in double click opens with file viewer...
[07:19] <dyu> what does -N stand for in iptables?
[07:19] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia:  The 'test' is in both gnome-system-log and when viewing the log using 'less'
[07:19] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: great do the time stamps match ?
[07:19] <[L]ight> dyu: New.
[07:19] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: yes the time does match
[07:20] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: perfect,
[07:20] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: so you know there is not a bug
[07:20] <dyu> [L]ight: why does it show up in iptables -S? how is it different from -A?
[07:20] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: problem is, to the left of the gnome-log-viewer there is a sidebar that shows the incorrect date
[07:21] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: even for the test you just did ?
[07:21] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: yep
[07:21] <cina> ikonia: how do I reorder the rules?
[07:21] <ikonia> cina: flush them and re-input them
[07:21] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-log/+bug/1169052
[07:21] <[L]ight> dyu: the -A switch is used to append. -N switch is to create a new chain.
[07:21] <ikonia> cina: you can re-order them but I've always found that too complex
[07:21] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: is that what you've just logged or did that exist ?
[07:22] <svector> is Déjà Dup is good tool to backup my current PC and move to a new one?
[07:22] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia that already existed
[07:22] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: but it is very old
[07:22] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: great, put your info in there too, detailing the test we've just done
[07:22] <cina> ikonia: I am worried that other people might have added rules, I don't want to mess it up
[07:22] <svector> Both computers will run Ubuntu 14
[07:22] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: alright, but to confirm you don't think I have been compromised, right?
[07:22] <ikonia> cina: backup the rules and re-add them in the correct order
[07:22] <ikonia> svector: I dont think so no
[07:22] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: why would you be compromised ?
[07:23] <ObrienDave> svector, clonezilla might be a better choice
[07:23] <svector> ikonia, oh okay. What do you suggest
[07:23] <svector> ?
[07:23] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: the dates are wrong
[07:23] <ikonia> svector: see ObrienDave's comment
[07:23] <cina> ikonia: how do I backup the rules? copy /etc/sysconfig/iptables ?
[07:23] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: one app is showing the wrong date ??
[07:23] <dyu> [Ligh] so it's at the same level as INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT? i don't understand what -N fail2ban-ssh does and whether or not it conflicts with -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:23] <ikonia> cina: iptables-save
[07:23] <djdr1988> [L]ight and ObrienDave: you guys are awesome. The manual partition worked perfectly. Thank you guys for your help
[07:23] <ikonia> cina: are you using the ufw interface ?
[07:23] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: yeah true, I'[ll stop worrying
[07:23] <I_Heart_Android-> Hey guys. Having multitouch issues on 12.04 This normal?
[07:23] <[L]ight> djdr1998: Welcomed.
[07:24] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, YAY \o/ glad it worked out for you +1
[07:24] <svector> ObrienDave, I checked it out looks like it creates an exact image of my current disk
[07:24] <cina> ikonia: thank you :)
[07:24] <svector> ObrienDave, will I not run into driver issues?
[07:24] <djdr1988> my next question is, how do I access my cdrom drive?
[07:24] <Flannel> Valarkin_: going through that page (which /is/ quite messy and awful), I don't see an `a2enmod php5` to enable the php module.
[07:25] <ObrienDave> svector, yes, i moved 5 partitions, 3 win 2 'buntu, from a 500GB to a 1500GB. no loss of data at all
[07:25] <ikonia> Flannel: it's  supposed to auto enable now
[07:25] <[L]ight> djdr1998: cd /media
[07:25] <ikonia> Flannel: (on install)
[07:25] <Flannel> ikonia: I'll believe that when I see it.
[07:25] <ikonia> it creates the symlink by default (or should do)
[07:25] <ikonia> Flannel: yes, I agree
[07:25] <svector> ObrienDave, driver issues?
[07:25] <Flannel> enabling an already enabled module won't cause problems, at any rate.
[07:25] <Valarkin_> Hi flannel - That was in one of the solutions I found for the 200 error. I ran it and it said it had nothing to do
[07:26] <Valarkin_> I'm reinstalling now
[07:26] <ObrienDave> svector, nope, none, but i don't use custom drivers
[07:26] <svector> ObrienDave, I'm moving from HP to Toshiba..
[07:26] <Valarkin_> ikonia - please forgive my outburst. Pent up frustration that has nothing to do with you.
[07:26] <Flannel> Valarkin_: Alright.  Do you, in all of apache config files, have an AddType for php?
[07:26] <IM_ON_FIRE> So I can poke one part of my screen, but I cant poke 2 parts. Anyone know where I can learn X11 compatibility with touch?
[07:26] <ikonia> Flannel: I actually thin it's the extension of the file that's being called looking at the contents of those tar files, but I can't be bothered investigating futher
[07:26] <ObrienDave> svector, that could be a different issue altogether
[07:26] <svector> ObrienDave, I want thinking my current environment contains HP specific stuff
[07:27] <Valarkin_> I'm just waiting for the fresh install atm flannel.
[07:28] <Flannel> Valarkin_: Ah, alright.  Once you've done that, you should follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:28] <ObrienDave> svector, this is true, better to do a clean install and transfer your old data using rsync or something similar
[07:28] <svector> ObrienDave, I'm trying only to move my files and things I installed
[07:28] <Flannel> I assume you've already got that page, but in case you haven't, that'll get you all set up, explain how to do a number of common things (and deal with some of the pitfalls)
[07:29] <Valarkin_> Thanks, flannel. It's really hard to find the right stuff sometimes.
[07:29] <Fandral> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop, and the 500 GB HD is partitioned into a 200 GB ext4 for Ubuntu, a swap, and two other primary partitions sda2 and sda3. I intend to install Vista on sda3, and after hours of formatting, always I get "Windows can't find a partition that meets its criteria for installation". Any help?
[07:29] <svector> ObrienDave, what about Déjà Dup
[07:29] <svector> ?
[07:29] <Flannel> Valarkin_: There's a lot of information out there, yes, separating the wheat from the chaff is often one of the hardest parts of trying something new.
[07:29] <ikonia> Fandral: vista likes to be on the first partition
[07:29] <ikonia> Fandral: install vista first on the disk and before ubuntu
[07:30] <Fandral> Ok, thanks ikonia. btw can I use GParted etc to safely move my Ubuntu partition sda1 to anything like sda2 etc?
[07:30] <Valarkin_> It's frustrating being told by someone who undertands things that you haven't pu in the effort you know you have al well.
[07:30] <ObrienDave> svector, afaik, dejaDup is not good at restoring individual files. it's more of an all-or-nothing solution. i'm not really sure about that
[07:30] <Valarkin_> as*
[07:31] <ikonia> Fandral: that will move the data, but not reconfigure the OS to be aware that the data has moved
[07:31] <Valarkin_> support is empathy + knowledge
[07:31] <[L]ight> Fandral: Install windows first. Windows completely overwrites the MBR.
[07:31] <ikonia> Valarkin_: stop playing the victim
[07:31] <Valarkin_> ikonia stop being a dick :D
[07:32] <ikonia> Valarkin_: please don't talk to people like that in this channel
[07:32] <ikonia> !guidelilnes > Valarkin_
[07:32] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : I Have tried all the mirrors on www.archive.ubuntu.com yet none of them have a release file :(
[07:32] <Fandral> ikonia: [L]ight Thanks. Looks like there's no way other than reinstalling Ubuntu, something I was trying to avoid (since it's my primary system, after all).
[07:32] <Valarkin_> ok, allow me to rephrase. Stop being over sensitive :P
[07:32] <ikonia> !guidelines > Valarkin_
[07:32] <[L]ight> Fandral: If you were to install ubuntu first, it will be ignored. Ubuntu overwrites MBR as well, but adds grub entry for windows.
[07:32] <svector> ObrienDave, I actually want my JDK, IDEs, files and some SW. In what cases does CloneZilla work smoothly
[07:32] <ObrienDave> svector, using rsync will compare file-by-file and only update older files ones that don't exist on the target drive
[07:32] <rainbowwarrior> I can not seem to find any other Ubuntu 14.04 mirrors :(
[07:32] <ikonia> Fandral: have you got much data on your ubuntu system ?
[07:33] <Fandral> [L]ight: Indeed. Well, I was counting on using the Ubuntu CD to reinstall Grub anyway, after installing Windows. That wouldn't have been an issue.
[07:33] <Fandral> ikonia: Around 150 GB. Also, the OS is fully customized, I mean, with tweaks, ppas, wallpapers, custom scripts software etc. So it would be really cumbersome to move it all. :\
[07:33] <ObrienDave> svector, clonezilla is also a all-or-nothing solution. best at making 1-to-1 copies of drives.
[07:34] <ikonia> Fandral: yeah, so a re-install in the right order would be a lot of work for you to put back then
[07:34] <rainbowwarrior> !topic
[07:34] <svector> ObrienDave, is swapping the physical Harddrives a bad idea?
[07:34] <Fandral> ikonia: Exactly. But looks like there's nothing else to do. :\ Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway, most appreciated. :)
[07:34] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: That's all I can do regrettably. Can you make use of virtualization for now?
[07:35] <ikonia> Fandral: just trying to work out what's the lesser effort moving the partitions and re-configuring, or backing up the data, and re-installing in the correct order
[07:35] <ObrienDave> svector, you your case i would not recommend a straight swap. same issue, too many HP specific files
[07:35] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : Yes
[07:35] <Fandral> Indeed. A reinstall it is, then.
[07:36] <rainbowwarrior> erm what is this Ubuntu 14.10 utopic Unicorn ?
[07:36] <ObrienDave> svector, *in your case
[07:37] <Fandral> Anyway, thanks guys. I'm going to apply the solution now. Most appreciated.
[07:37] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: name of the ubuntu release.
[07:37] <rainbowwarrior> duh me
[07:38] <svector> ObrienDave, hasn't anyone come up with a solution for a situation like this?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, in a terminal:   cat /etc/issue
[07:39] <ObrienDave> svector, easiest way, rsync your system to a empty directory on an external drive. fresh install Ubuntu to the new computer, drive swap ok at this point. rsync old files/data to new system
[07:39] <svector> ObrienDave, cool. Which directories shall I choose to rsync?
[07:39] <ObrienDave> all of them for now
[07:40] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett : oh I am using openssue 13.1 and want to install Ubuntu using debootstra as my laptop screen is broke and i have had to connect it to an aoc monitor via HDMI , and Ubuntu 13.10 does not like my monitor and hangs on login screen so I am hoping if I can get in and do an upgrade I can then sort out the problem I hope
[07:41] <svector> ObrienDave, you mean /
[07:41] <svector> ?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, INTENSE!  and way over my head.
[07:41] <ObrienDave> svector, you probably only need the /home partition files for now, unless you have programs that install to /
[07:42] <svector> ObrienDave, /opt has my JDK and other SDKs
[07:42] <svector> ObrienDave, and I have no idea what other dirs contain that I probably installed ..:)
[07:43] <ObrienDave> svector, then / , neither does anyone else LOL
[07:43] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: are you able to boot to cli from login screen?
[07:43] <ObrienDave> svector, i had 600,000 files at one time. no way to know what they all go to LMAO
[07:44] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : No
[07:44] <svector> ObrienDave, haha
[07:45] <svector> but there should be a way to restore your system without the hardware specific things
[07:45] <svector> ..
[07:47] <ObrienDave> svector, if you don't mind the cruft, just rsync everything both ways. easiest solution i know of. i'm sure many others here have different ideas about that ;P
[07:48] <svector> ObrienDave, what is so bad about Deja Dup?
[07:48] <svector> ObrienDave, looks very similar to rsync to me
[07:48] <ObrienDave> svector, it does not like to do individual file, afaik
[07:49] <ObrienDave> svector, look into grsync
[07:50]  * rainbowwarrior bashes head on wall ahh its only pain
[07:50] <ObrienDave> poor wall ;P
[07:51] <ObrienDave> what did the wall ever do to you? ;P
[08:00] <cina> I hate iptables. I still can't get it to work for a new port (:3131) :'(
[08:00] <rainbowwarrior> Can someone please point me to a mirror of Ubuntu 14.10 what has a release file ?
[08:00] <ikonia> cina: you previously saiid it was port 3000
[08:00] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: it's not released
[08:00] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: so it won't have a release file
[08:01] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: earlier you said it was 14.04 you wanted,
[08:01] <cina> everything seems fine, /etc/sysconfig/iptables includes this port, I restart "service iptables restart"
[08:01] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, choose
[08:01] <cina> ikonia: no difference, none of them works
[08:01] <ikonia> cina: is this a machine at home or in a data center ?
[08:01] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : ahh
[08:01] <cina> it's a vps
[08:01] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : ok thank you
[08:01] <cina> remote server
[08:02] <Seveas> cina: /etc/sysconfig/iptables and "service iptables restart" are not how you manage iptables on Ubuntu.
[08:02] <ikonia> cina: what version of ubuntu
[08:02] <Seveas> That's a redhat-ism.
[08:02] <ikonia> Seveas: yes.....
[08:02] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett : I did want 14.04 LTS but I can not find a single mirror with a release file :(
[08:02] <Seveas> rainbowwarrior: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/
[08:02] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, will a .torrent work for you?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, torrents.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[08:03] <ikonia> he doesn't need media
[08:03] <ikonia> he's trying to do a debootstrap install
[08:03] <Seveas> ah
[08:03] <ikonia> hence why it wants the release file for the definition of what to get
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ikonia, that's a package, yes.  package search?
[08:03] <ikonia> cfhowlett: sorry what ?
[08:03] <Seveas> my debootstrap is a bit rusty, but I think you need http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release
[08:04] <ikonia> ahhh good call pull it from the archive
[08:04] <ikonia> the master
[08:04] <iptable> or pull the official trusty debootstrap config and use that
[08:04] <cfhowlett> ikonia, never done a debboostrap, but isn't the "release file" a package?  searchable on packages.ubuntu.com   ???  or something similar?
[08:04] <ikonia> cfhowlett: yes, but it's also an actual file
[08:05] <[L]ight> Night all.
[08:05] <ikonia> cfhowlett: the buug I referenced was with the package, but the bug was that the package did not update the physical file
[08:05] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, looks like it's mostly checksums
[08:06] <iptable>   amd64|i386)
[08:06] <iptable> 	default_mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[08:06] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, ^
[08:07] <pw_> Can anyone help making a lexmark prevail 705 printer work on ubuntu 14.04?
[08:07] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, put this in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/
[08:07] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, that's the official trusty debootstrap script. once done, you can use standard dbootstrap command to pull trusty
[08:09] <iptable> pw_, lexmark drivers on their website are only avaialble for fedora and opensuse as lexmark (company) doesn't know of 21st century yet :D
[08:09] <pw_> iptable, so what to do? Throw printer out of window and look for some fresh euros?
[08:10] <iptable> pw_, well, I'm sure I can dig the driver out somewhere of the archives, although lexmark and out-of-the-windows sounds about right. worst printers I ever used
[08:10] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : says no such file or directory
[08:11] <pw_> iptable, they have a 12.04 driver on their site, but I can't make it work on 14.04
[08:11] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, you are supposed to CREATE /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty. the directory /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ does exist and holds your debootstrap scripts. I am assuming you did install debootstrap
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Hey guys
[08:12] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : yes
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> When i try to install grub i get this
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> root@it:/# grub-install /dev/sda6
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[08:12] <iptable> pw_, define "can't make it work"
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> What can i do O-o
[08:13] <cfhowlett> ExtremeDerpAndSo, why /sda6      ?  grub usually lives on /sda
[08:13] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, first tell us how did you break grub?
[08:13] <pw_> iptable, attribute of printjob: filter failed and cups-filter-crashed
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> It's a dual boot, And i have windows 8.1 and ubuntu
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I installed ubuntu, Windows was installed first
[08:13] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I then tried /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/ and it says permission denied
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I booted, I got windows 8.1
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> So i kept playing around in the BIOS till i got ubuntu
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Then i ran boot repair thing
[08:14] <Guest31709> Hi guys, do you know why the latest flash version was not added for ubuntu 13.10 here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And then it told me to re-enable efi
[08:14] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : and that was as root
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> So i enabled it
[08:14] <Guest31709> For all the others was added
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And i got windows
[08:14] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, also yes, grub would sit in /dev/sda and chainload windows boot if needed. so you shoujld be welcomed by grub from /dev/sda and have a choice form grub to either boot ubuntu or windows
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I then disabled it, I got grub rescue
[08:14] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, you broke it. Enable EFI, windows 8.1 needs it
[08:14] <pw_> iptable, I tried a lot. Last thing: I uninstalled the normal driver, tried to force it to use ppd description (which might be stupid, since I am...)
[08:15] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Once i enable it, How should i get back into ubuntu?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Guest31709, I know why.  13.10 is end of life = no longer  supported = NO upgrades
[08:15] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, did you follow any guides? they would tell you interesting things like "disable secureboot in windows"
[08:15] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, see this http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[08:16] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Yeah i killed secure boot
[08:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, what on earth are you talking about?
[08:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, createa  file called /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty
[08:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, put the contents of http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/ in the file
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !who
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !!! ^^^ !!!!
[08:16] <cfhowlett> this!
[08:16] <ObrienDave> pw_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/437909/help-needed-in-using-lexmark-pro705-with-ubuntu-13-10
[08:18] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, see the link I have given you with a guide on installation.
[08:19] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, the guide assumes you have UEFI enabled at all times throughout this
[08:21] <pw_> ObrienDave, Installing a 64bit driver on a 32 bit machine?
[08:21] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, and once you create the file and put the contents in, you are supposed to make the file executable (chmod 755) and use the command "debootstrap" properly to debootstrap a trusty environment.
[08:21] <iptable> pw_, you cannot install a 64 bit driver on a 32 bit machine
[08:22] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Okay
[08:22] <pw_> iptable, that is suggested in the link ObrienDave posted...
[08:22] <iptable> pw_, you would need to find the same file, same version but 32 bit.
[08:22] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, So i have to re-install ubuntu, :(
[08:22] <iptable> pw_, you never told us it's 32 bit.
[08:23] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, for a new ubuntu / linux user that would be preferred, considering you never got it working yet
[08:23] <iptable> pw_, is it a 32 bit CPU, or just using 32 bit linux?
[08:23] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, I actually have a working ubuntu, I even updated it and installed drivers, I just cannot boot into it
[08:23] <pw_> iptable, it is a 32bit cpu
[08:24] <pw_> iptable, or... i think...
[08:24] <iptable> pw_, then you would need to find the driver in a 32-bit edition and then follow the install guide ObrienDave gave you (which fixes permissions too). welcome to lexmark world of adventures :D
[08:24] <ObrienDave> !details | pw_
[08:24] <iptable> pw_, what CPU is it? find description from "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[08:25] <pw_> ObrienDave the details would be...
[08:25] <Vladimir_> I need to add timestamp to new files that comes in to a directory, i got this: NOW=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d")     FILENAME="hostnamn.$NOW.txt         but I don't know what to do with it, do I put it inside a text file or just type it?
[08:25] <pw_> iptable, how do i post the whole output of that command?
[08:25] <ObrienDave> pw_, pastebinit
[08:26] <geirha> Vladimir_: Careful, you should not use uppercase variable names.
[08:26] <ObrienDave> !pastebinit | pw_
[08:26] <iptable> pw_, I said "description" line
[08:26] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> -.-
[08:26] <iptable> Vladimir_, I have failed to understand your question. what do you want to do exactly?
[08:27] <cooln> hello
[08:27] <addiks> hi, does anybody know how to deactivate nfs4-delegation in 14.04? i've already tried to put "NFS_SERVER_DELEGATION=off" into /etc/defaults/nfs-kernel-server with no effect.
[08:27] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, I actually have a working ubuntu, I even updated it and installed drivers, I just cannot boot into it
[08:27] <geirha> Vladimir_: Sounds like you want incrond
[08:27] <Vladimir_> iptable: I want all files that comes in to a specific directory to add a timestamp(current date/time) to the file name.
[08:27] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, so how is/was it working? what did you do to break it? please give us full story this time. We are tired of guessing and cannot read your mind.
[08:27] <geirha> Vladimir_: Though I have to ask, why the current timestamp and not the file's timestamp?
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> vx
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> fsdfsdsd
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> hello
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> what is zhis
[08:28] <pw_> iptable, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep description should give that??
[08:28] <iptable> Vladimir_, so you want to rename all files in a directory? or wnat it to work every time a file is added? this is NOT a simple task, you need inotifywait
[08:28] <iptable> pw_, why can'y you just cat the file and scroll up a few lines.
[08:29] <iptable> pw_, here, if you scrolled you'd find the description of your cpu in "model name" actually :/ model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       M 640  @ 2.80GHz
[08:30] <pw_> iptable, If you mean this line: model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
[08:30] <somsip> Vladimir_: if you want a script you can adapt (by changing the dir being monitored and the actions to be taken) you can crib from this http://is.gd/5yAlUH
[08:30] <linuxgeneral> ?
[08:30] <iptable> pw_, so you have a very strong and fast 64 bit CPU and have installed a 32 bit ubuntu
[08:30] <ObrienDave> pw_, that would be a 64bit CPU
[08:30] <iptable> pw_, if you can, reinstall to 64 bit ubuntu
[08:31] <pw_> iptable , that would solve the problem?
[08:31] <ObrienDave> pw_, not necessarily, but it's a good start
[08:31] <iptable> pw_, that would make your machine much faster and allow you to follow ObrienDave instructions
[08:32] <Vladimir_> somsip: thanks, it looks very advanced :/
[08:32] <iptable> pw_, you should always use 64 bit OS on 64 bit CPU, it makes it much faster and helps keep up with current world.
[08:32] <enclosed> current world
[08:32] <enclosed> lol
[08:32] <iptable> Vladimir_, as we said, it is NOT a simple script
[08:32] <pw_> iptable and ObrienDave: Ok, there we go again... how can I know from the model name that it is 64 bit?
[08:32] <iptable> pw_, all core i7 are 64 bit
[08:32] <Vladimir_> geirha: Just the current time and date
[08:33] <ObrienDave> pw_, trust us, an I7 is 64bit
[08:33] <iptable> pw_, you could just enter the name "Intel Core i7 64 or 32 bit" into google and you would find out
[08:33] <sapik> Yeah its 64
[08:33] <iptable> pw_, intel's website says that as well
[08:33] <pw_> iptable and ObrienDave: of course i trust you !!
[08:33] <Vladimir_> iptable: It doesn't sound hard, I mean the only thing this does is waiting till a new file arrives to the directory and add a date to the end of the file name :/
[08:34] <somsip> Vladimir_: you need watchdirs at the top, your renaming functions in the while loop, and that's about it. It's not a trivial task. Maybe best to cronjob every minute and rename any files that dont have a timestamp (kludge)
[08:34] <pw_> iptable and ObrienDave: see you back after reinstall!
[08:34] <ObrienDave> pw_, we'll be here :)
[08:34] <Vladimir_> somsip:  okej, I'l try it=)
[08:34] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Ok, I had windows 8.1 64 bit, I had efi on, I installed ubuntu, I reboot after installation was complete, I get to windows, I killed EFI and set " OS Optimization " to " Other OS", Then i boot up, I get ubuntu, I run startup repair thingo, I follow it
[08:35] <iptable> Vladimir_, no, wait until a rocket ship lands in my back yard, walk in, and fly to moon doesn't sound hard either
[08:35] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Then i boot up, I get GRUB rescue terminal, I go into live disk and i erase the " boot " partition which was sda6
[08:35] <ObrienDave> iptable, you mean "climb in" ;P
[08:35] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And here i am
[08:36] <somsip> Vladimir_: even easier - create an incoming folder and monitor that in the cronjob. Move and rename anything in there to your destination folder.
[08:36] <iptable> Vladimir_, actual waiting for new file in a dir and executing this is more than level 1 difficulty
[08:36] <iptable> ObrienDave, yeah, that :P
[08:36] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, That's all i know
[08:36] <iptable> somsip, well, he could use inotifywatch to find new files the moment they come in instead. then he could run it in screen session, as a daemon etc
[08:36] <iptable> Vladimir_, ^
[08:37] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, no, your ubuntu should have run from EFI
[08:37] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, the install was incorrect
[08:37] <somsip> iptable: as suggested in my linked script, but he's admitted it may be too tricky so an alternative was suggested
[08:37] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> .-.
[08:37] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, when isntalling ubuntu, install grub into /dev/sda! Don't touch what you don't need to and ubuntu and windows will boot from EFI. And ubuntu grub will welcome you with OS choice
[08:37] <Vladimir_> iptable: I already have a script that sends files to this directory, but the name is the same every time so I need to add current date to these files to differ them from each other
[08:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, sda1 is actually windows recovery partition
[08:38] <iptable> Vladimir_, oh, so you own a script which sends files to that directory. you could have told us that.
[08:38] <iptable> Vladimir_, we cannot read minds
[08:38] <somsip> Vladimir_: then change the filename in that script?
[08:39] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, /dev/sda! the MBR, not sda1, sda
[08:39] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, that's where ubuntu grub should go
[08:39] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, I cannot see that in GParted
[08:39] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, sda is NOT a partition, it's MBR.
[08:39] <matthew_||> sa
[08:39] <Vladimir_> iptable: but the problem is not to send files to that directory, it's the adding date/time to the files in that directory
[08:40] <matthew_||> Türk var mı gençler
[08:40] <ObrienDave> ExtremeDerpAndSo, yes you can see sda, right above sda1
[08:40] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, so no, gparted will not show it. it's the first 512 bytes of your hard drive. you should NOW fiddle with this unless you know what you are doing. Otherwise, you should have left it as default, and installed to /dev/sda
[08:40] <iptable> NOT fiddle that is
[08:41] <somsip> Vladimir_: you've been given 3 solutions now. Which one are you going to use?
[08:41] <Vladimir_> somsip: I can't change that since its a script to a network device and its a command that is initiated on the network device, it will always be the same name, I would need change it everytime the script is executed
[08:41] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Ok.
[08:41] <iptable> Vladimir_, I don't know your script, I cannot see it. I don't know what your variables are, I cannot tell you how to modify it. I cannot read your mind or see your screen. Neither can somsip
[08:42] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Imma try following that tut's instructions and see what happens.
[08:42] <ObrienDave> ExtremeDerpAndSo, oops, nevermind, getting tired ;P
[08:42] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, ok
[08:42] <matthew_||> la
[08:42] <Vladimir_> iptable:  I don't have a script to appeding date/time to files, the script i've got is only for execeting tftp sending commands from a network device
[08:43] <somsip> Vladimir_: so you either scan the directory manually every minute (cronjob, not so good) or use inotifywait (better, but not trivial). You need to help yourself by being fully aware of your problem and what the best solution for your need is going to be. I recommended finding out how to do it with inotifywait, even if it is difficult for you it is the only way you will learn
[08:43] <Vladimir_> iptable: I believe I need another script or tool that adds timestamp to filenames in a directory, the files will already arrive every week in that directory(that's not the problem)
[08:43] <iptable> Vladimir_, you said that script puts the files in the directory. then it's the script you need to modify to rename the fiels as you do so. I cannot tell you how to modify it, what to add and where, becuase I CANNOT SEE IT!
[08:43] <iptable> Vladimir_, or use another script which does monitoring and renaming if you prefer, that's fine.
[08:44] <Vladimir_> iptable: yeah exactly, I need a totally new script =)
[08:44] <iptable> Vladimir_, because modifying current one is too difficult, ok.
[08:44] <Vladimir_> and as you all say I can use inotify to create a new script for this?
[08:45] <somsip> Vladimir_: we've both told you this a number of times. I'm out of this now as it's too much of a struggle to help you
[08:45] <iptable> Vladimir_, no, you can use a text editor. you can use inotify IN your script to get notifications on when new files come in to the directory. it's a monitoring app.
[08:45]  * iptable goes to get a coffee. too early for this...
[08:46] <Vladimir_> iptable: okey=)
[08:46] <Vladimir_> I just don't get why you are mentioning my old script that sends commands to a network device :/
[08:47] <iptable> Vladimir_, because if you have a script which puts files in that directory (you said you do), then you can make it rename the files as it's doing it! it's the BEST option. The actual proper workflow, not sure why you are not seeing this.
[08:48] <Vladimir_> iptable: it's just an expect script, it can't do much of other stuff than just send commands through an ssh / telnet session
[08:48] <iptable> Vladimir_, it can... or you can wrap around it with bash
[08:48]  * iptable really goes to get that coffee now. getting too tired at 9.50am
[08:49] <Vladimir_> iptable: Okey well I have never done much of bash scripting :/´
[08:49] <Vladimir_> iptable: no worries, I'll try to solve it somehow=)
[08:49] <iptable> in which case you could listen to what we say and cooperate
[08:49]  * iptable really REALLY goes to get that coffee NOW
[08:49] <ObrienDave> that would be WAY too easy ;P
[08:50] <Vladimir_> iptable: I'm trying, I've never done any bash scripting o other scripting except this simple expect script so it's hard for me to understand exactly what you mean
[08:51]  * ObrienDave goes to get a very large Earl Grey tea ;P
[08:54] <Vladimir_> I will try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ =)
[08:55] <Vladimir_> Thanks for all the help guys, sorry if I got to your nerves..
[09:00] <ObrienDave> ahhhhh, the pause that refreshes ;P
[09:06] <geirha> Vladimir_: you are using expect with ssh ?!
[09:07] <dlawrence> hello
[09:07] <ObrienDave> dlawrence, greetings & welcome
[09:09] <ObrienDave> and goodbye LOL
[09:09] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:10]  * ObrienDave loves self helpers like that ;P
[09:10] <Vladimir_> geirha: yes?
[09:10] <iptable> morning cynicallemon
[09:10] <iptable> Vladimir_, read about "ssh key authentication", and ssh-copy-id etc. no need for expect. ssh already has perfect and safe mechanisms to do passwordless auth
[09:11] <cynicallemon> evening iptable
[09:11] <iptable> cynicallemon, good time(local);
[09:11] <Vladimir_> iptable: I got this to work, so it' no problem =)
[09:11] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:11] <cynicallemon> good utc
[09:11] <iptable> Vladimir_, there is the wrong way and there is the right way. ssh+expect is the wrong way, but as you wish
[09:12] <Vladimir_> iptable: why is it the wrong way?
[09:12] <cloneh> Where can I create own desktop files for the default applications list in the system settings?
[09:12] <iptable> cynicallemon, ah yes. so according to UTC, good morning
[09:12] <cloneh> I want to set Gmail (opened mit Chrome) as my default mail application.
[09:12] <mjayk> cloneh: you cant in the system settings try googling desktop icons ubuntu
[09:13] <cynicallemon> iptable: very much so
[09:13] <iptable> Vladimir_, for a start you have a password in a plain-text file. you also have a script which pretends to be an interactive keyboard. so may things can go wrong and errors occur in ssh and you expect script will either hang or plunge on, instead of dealing with e.g. "domain not found" or "host unreachable" errors
[09:13] <Vladimir_> iptable: thing is with expect I just send all the commands to the switch that I need to execute and that's it, no need for advanced scripting or programming :/
[09:13] <cloneh> mjayk, I know that I can create desktop icons in ~/.local/share/applications - but these are not the files shown in the lists.
[09:13] <iptable> Vladimir_, uhm what? expect is more complicated than ssh-copy-id ran once and a bash script. a lot more complicated.
[09:13] <iptable> Vladimir_, for a start you have a password in a plain-text file. you also have a script which pretends to be an interactive keyboard. so may things can go wrong and errors occur in ssh and you expect script will either hang or plunge on, instead of dealing with e.g. "domain not found" or "host unreachable" errors
[09:14] <iptable> Vladimir_, you are not really willing to learn, are you?
[09:14] <Vladimir_> but how do I send commands with ssh-copy-id?
[09:14] <Vladimir_> I mean without expect iptable
[09:14] <iptable> Vladimir_, have you even tried to read it's manual...
[09:15] <iptable> Vladimir_, or just bluntly ask without even reading a single line of what it does?
[09:15] <mjayk> iptable: understand there are many way to do things no right or wrong way just compromises.
[09:15] <ObrienDave> manual? we don;t need no stinking manual ;P
[09:15] <mjayk> manuals are for catching bin juice
[09:15] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh-copy-id user@host will copy YOUR ID to remote side (you will need to enter password here). After that, ssh user@host "your-command-here" will just work without a password as remote host will trust you
[09:16] <iptable> ObrienDave, mjayk, apparently...
[09:16] <iptable> mjayk, no, there are wrong ways. storing your ssh password in a plain-text expect shell file IS exactly that. expecially when ssh has a perfectly acceptable, simple to use mechanism for passwordless auth. which is even easier as well.
[09:16] <Vladimir_> Well I got the tip from my linux teacher to use expect :/¨
[09:17] <Vladimir_> but it sounds like ssh-copy-id is a safer way to go
[09:17] <iptable> Vladimir_, safer and correct.
[09:17] <iptable> Vladimir_, your linux teacher either doesn't like you, or most likely, doesn't know enough about linux to teach
[09:18] <Vladimir_> iptable: I am willing to learn, I've been trying to solve this project for almost 3 weeks, i tried to get rancid working without success..
[09:18] <mjayk> iptable:  those who cant an all
[09:19] <iptable> Vladimir_, if he has given you a project which includes getting an unsupported package working which needs wine/recompoiling and told you to use expect shell with ssh, I would question his teaching abilities.
[09:20] <iptable> Vladimir_, you ssh-copy-id ONCE, and then just do your ssh stuff without passwords from a simple bash script. and if you need to copy files, use scp instead please. it will also be passwordless from ssh-copy-id.
[09:20] <Vladimir_> it's not a project for school, I'm creating an automation for backup of network devices at an internship for an IT company
[09:20] <iptable> Vladimir_, DEFINITELY not use expect. backups are meant to be 100% solid, not glued fun projects
[09:21] <iptable> Vladimir_, then in your bash script as you scp files over, you can rename them as you go along for example. 1 script.
[09:22] <geirha> Vladimir_: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/069
[09:23] <karab44> hello
[09:24] <Vladimir_> iptable: thanks
[09:24] <karab44> I have problem when I download with Firefox it opens i.e. zip with gedit. Many files opens with gedit.
[09:24] <karab44> I have I have Save file/ Open with - gedit(default)  dialog box
[09:24] <karab44> it doesn't occur in the system, only in FF. Zips are opened by archive manager by default.
[09:25] <ObrienDave> karab44, use chrome
[09:25] <theadmin> karab44: Firefox is dumb, it doesn't understand filetypes under Linux from what I know, it opens everything in the same application. To resolve it, point it to open files with /usr/bin/xdg-open
[09:26] <iptable> oi, firefox is intelligent and works most of the time
[09:26] <ObrienDave> MOST of the time ;P
[09:26] <karab44> Yeah, I agree because some time ago it was fine, it started to mess around 2-3 months ago
[09:27] <iptable> and does understand file types karab44, against what theadmin wrote. file types theadmin are NOT linux types. they are HTML mime-type
[09:27] <iptable> karab44, if you move your profile away and create a new one, does it still have that issue?
[09:27] <theadmin> iptable: Ah, that would explain it, most downloads are served as application/octet-stream I would assume.
[09:27] <iptable> karab44, just to see if it's global config or profile config
[09:28] <karab44> iptable: That's good experiment, I'm on my way to try that. Is quest profile good enough?
[09:28] <karab44> guest
[09:28] <iptable> theadmin, most are served with correct type. the ones firefox has actual problem with chrome will fail as well. this is a file-association issue in firefox configuration
[09:28] <karab44> brb
[09:28] <iptable> karab44, no
[09:28] <karab44> new one? OK
[09:28] <iptable> karab44, wait
[09:29] <theadmin> iptable: Well, last I checked it was basically -- I configure FF to open .jpg files with eog, it decides all of a sudden that everything needs to be opened with eog as well
[09:29] <karab44> I can use livecd if we talk about extremes :)
[09:29] <theadmin> iptable: I mean, there probably is a better way to resolve it, but I just pointed it to xdg-open and all was fine
[09:29] <karab44> brb
[09:29] <glcheetham> hey guys, everytime I boot ubuntu (14.04) my font scaling factor gets smaller and smaller, and I have to go into unity-tweak-tool and change it back every so often. This has been happening since I installed ubuntu. Any idea what's going on?
[09:29] <iptable> karab44, stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla
[09:29] <iptable> karab44, ^
[09:30] <iptable> theadmin, it is one way to solve the issue, yes
[09:30] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, that makes no sense
[09:30] <karab44> guys
[09:30] <karab44> I took me 3sec to find out that on guest session FF works smart
[09:31] <minimec> glcheetham: If you added a new user... would you see the same behaviour or could it be that you just messed around with your current users configuration?
[09:31] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, I know, right? Never had this before
[09:31] <theadmin> karab44: Perhaps some add-on borked it up?
[09:31] <theadmin> glcheetham: Check your startup apps for some odd scripts perhaps
[09:31] <iptable> glcheetham, sticky keys or an issue with the mouse scroller wheel being on short circut?
[09:31] <glcheetham> iptable, no
[09:31] <karab44> so question remains is this FF config or maybe account profile config
[09:32] <iptable> karab44, now, in order to see if it is the FIREFOX profile or YOUR USER profile, do what I asked you to
[09:32] <iptable> karab44, stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla
[09:32] <karab44> theadmin: I tried FF in failsafe mode and no config was running, behaviour remains the same.
[09:32] <k1l> karab44: rename the .folder for firefox in your home and restart firrefox. so its starts with a clean profile
[09:32] <karab44> k1l: great idea
[09:32] <iptable> k1l, I just told him to do it 3 times
[09:32] <iptable> karab44, again: stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla
[09:32] <k1l> iptable: then karab44 should just do it
[09:32] <iptable> k1l, would be nice, no?
[09:33] <karab44> hehehe guys I don't read that fast. I was working for 16 hours :)
[09:33] <glcheetham> theadmin, no crazy scripts
[09:33] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, what is the DPI set to?
[09:34] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, default, i guess, for a 1366x768 screen. I changed scaling factor for menu and title bars to 0.875, however
[09:35] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, let me see if I can be a bit moer specific
[09:35] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, appearance, fonts, DPI should be 96
[09:35] <iptable> glcheetham, so you have made scaling factor changes and now scaling factor seems to change after every reboot?
[09:35] <iptable> if you revert changes, is the problem fixed?
[09:36] <glcheetham> iptable, yep that's right
[09:36] <glcheetham> iptable, no, still happens
[09:36] <karab44> okay seems that firefox with fresh, default config behaves exactly like with before. I see dialog box with gedit as default.
[09:36] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I am doing a " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty trusty and get an error " usr/share/debootstrap/functions: line 1303: /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/test-dev-null: Permission denied "
[09:36] <iptable> glcheetham, in any case, it is connected to the changes you made. now, tell us exactly what change and where
[09:36] <iptable> karab44, sorry, I missed that. so firefox with new profile WORKS or behaves like with old profile, i.e. incorrectly?
[09:37] <karab44> pardon, incorrectly
[09:37] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, I guess permission is denied. 1. does the directory learing to the test exist, and 2. are you running debootstrap as root
[09:38] <karab44> but as I already found out, works good on guest profile
[09:38] <iptable> karab44, right, so it's not firefox issue but user profile issue (since with a new user profile on same system issue is resolved)
[09:38] <ObrienDave> karab44, have you tried setting the default app through file manager? (right click, open with)
[09:38] <glcheetham> iptable, I changed the scaling factor for menus and title bars to 0.875, and I think that's it as far as settings go
[09:38] <Ceninant> What did the mozilla team break now?
[09:38] <iptable> Ceninant, nope, it's user profile in ubuntu, not firefox
[09:39] <iptable> glcheetham, how and where exactly did you change it?
[09:39] <karab44> ObrienDave: there is no default app assigned in firefox, in system there is default app assigned to open files but regardless to that FF opens it in gedit anyway.
[09:39] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, please see here http://imgur.com/dYtCuX3
[09:40] <glcheetham> iptable, I changed all those settings through the gui, system settings -> appearance -> whatever
[09:40] <glcheetham> iptable, however, I did modify the text scaling factor through unity-tweak-tool
[09:41] <ObrienDave> that should not matter
[09:41] <karab44> brb
[09:41] <sagar> hey
[09:41] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, aye, 'tis a mystery
[09:42] <Cuppa_coffee> anybody know why chrome/gmail displays some text in emails rather garbled and why firefox/gmail dont have that problem? (ubuntu 14.04 btw)
[09:42] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, rather than using scaling, may i suggest you gust change the font size?
[09:42] <iptable> speaking of chrome :P
[09:42] <glcheetham> iptable, I did install ccsm at one point and modified a few settings (I can't remember what)
[09:42] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Encoding setting, perhaps
[09:43] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Menu -> Tools -> Encoding -> Auto detect
[09:43] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, just tried that, I will report back if anything is fixed or not
[09:43] <iptable> glcheetham, so quite a few things tweaked and modified then. Issue present with a fresh user profile?
[09:43] <ObrienDave> *just
[09:43] <Cuppa_coffee> in the browser? It's utf-8. and on auto
[09:44] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Oh huh
[09:44] <iptable> karab44, well, it's file associations in your profile for firefox that have the issue. using the workaround theadmin presented might be a quick and working fix
[09:44] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Perhaps in GMail itself, then, there's a setting there too.
[09:44] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Try clearing browser data, see if it helps
[09:44] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : yes and i realised what I did wrong and now I get this error " E: No such script: 14.04
[09:44] <rainbowwarrior>  "
[09:45] <karab44> iptable: "point it to open files with /usr/bin/xdg-open"?
[09:45] <theadmin> karab44: Yeah, that
[09:45] <glcheetham> iptable, issue does not appear to be present with a fresh user profile
[09:45] <karab44> :)
[09:46] <karab44> ty
[09:46] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I am typing " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty "
[09:46] <Cuppa_coffee> theadmin, i'll try that later. Figured it would be better if i first tried to google the problem :P
[09:46] <Cuppa_coffee> sorry to waste your time
[09:47] <stonner> hi everyone
[09:47] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, spaces
[09:47] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, you cannot just use spaces like that!
[09:48] <stonner> i have a nvidia card, and i am suffering with a bug: nvidia has fallen off bus
[09:48] <stonner> i am on ubuntu 14.04 64bits
[09:48] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ? directory name with spaces without quotes. cannot be.
[09:48] <stonner> lastest default kernel
[09:48] <stonner> default ubuntu kernel
[09:48] <kevin> hi everyone
[09:48] <stonner> nvidia 331.89 driver
[09:48] <iptable> glcheetham, so it is a configuration issue in your user profile. well, we got this far.
[09:49] <stonner> anyone hows how to fix that?
[09:49] <iptable> stonner, falled off bus?
[09:49] <iptable> stonner, what?
[09:49] <glcheetham> iptable, :-)
[09:51] <RoBo_V> guys my md5sum not maching with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes downloaded ths ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:51] <Cuppa_coffee> theadmin, zooming in to 110% fixed the display issue. Am i correct in assuming it's a chrome bug?
[09:52] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: ...well that's odd, it might be
[09:52] <cfhowlett> RoBo_V, bad iso.  get a new one
[09:52] <stonner> iptable, nvidia has fallen off bus, i see this message in logs
[09:52] <iptable> uhm, ok
[09:52] <Cuppa_coffee> same for zooming out btw. I think I'll go for ye olde n00b solution: wait for the developers to fix it
[09:52] <geirha> RoBo_V: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/MD5SUMS  does any of these match?
[09:53] <stonner> iptable, my computer freezes, when i am playing counter strike source
[09:53] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, torrent from http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:53] <RoBo_V> cfhowlett: HOW ?  downloaded from ubuntu website officially
[09:53] <geirha> RoBo_V: The wiki seem to be stuck at 14.04, but the latest is 14.04.1
[09:53] <cfhowlett> RoBo_V, bad downloads happen.  use torrents
[09:53] <iptable> stonner, try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-rhel-fedora-linux-nvidia-nvrm-gpu-fallen-off-bus/
[09:54] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, OOPS, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:54] <geirha> RoBo_V: 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:54] <karab44> theadmin: it did help indeed
[09:54] <iptable> RoBo_V, your download failed. maybe it stopped and thought it succeeded, or maybe some other error in transmision. re-download
[09:54] <RoBo_V> evigrande: oh thanks yes 14.04.1 it is
[09:54] <RoBo_V> matcheddd
[09:54] <RoBo_V> Yuppy !
[09:54] <iptable> oh
[09:54] <iptable> duh
[09:55] <iptable> I assumed user was checking the correct file :P
[09:55] <RoBo_V> iptable: cli cant be wrong, just did "wget"
[09:55] <RoBo_V> xD
[09:55] <iptable> RoBo_V, it CAN
[09:55] <geirha> it's help.ubuntu.com's fault for lagging behind imo
[09:55] <karab44> but when I set open zip to Archive manager it didn't work, only pointing explicitly to xdg-open did the trick. How interesting is that.
[09:55] <RoBo_V> geirha: right wiki stucked at 14.04
[09:55] <iptable> RoBo_V, on occasions I had issues with download from certain servers which would at high load times send a message "complete, end of transmission" to all clients, resulting in wget thinking that the file was fully downloaded.
[09:56] <iptable> RoBo_V, just because it's wget doesn't mean your file is OK. also, your ISP could be modifying packets.
[09:56] <iptable> karab44, glad you got the workaround to work though
[09:56] <glcheetham> so who knows how to reset my user profile to defaults?
[09:57] <RoBo_V> iptable: I see, wll im on my way to make Ubuntu as my primary OS . will explore more as goes
[09:57] <RoBo_V> ditching windows (or for only gaming)
[09:57] <iptable> glcheetham, create new profile, move all relevant data files to new profile, remove old profile
[09:57] <stonner> iptable, doesnt works for me
[09:57] <stonner> iptable, i tried
[09:57] <karab44> That was annoying and disturbing but not very harmful (until I opened 500MB file with notepad) yes, thank you  :)
[09:57] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, nule your /home
[09:57] <iptable> RoBo_V, good for you :)
[09:57] <cfhowlett> nuke
[09:58] <glcheetham> cfhowlett, lol
[09:58] <joedoe-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/965371 - reintroduced this bug
[09:58] <glcheetham> well, i'll get right on it
[09:58] <iptable> stonner, tried reinstalling the driver? and how did you install it in the first place?
[09:58] <joedoe-> 14.04 LTS
[10:00] <stonner> iptable, i purged nouveau drivers, and installed 331.89 nvidia driver
[10:00] <stonner> iptable, i reinstalled millions of time
[10:00] <stonner> iptable, already
[10:02] <ObrienDave> stonner, did you reboot after installing?
[10:02] <stonner> ObrienDave, yes
[10:03] <cynicallemon> stonner: how did you install the video driver?
[10:03] <stonner> ObrienDave, with nouveau drivers the system doesnt crash
[10:03] <stonner> cynicallemon, first i change to a virtual terminal
[10:03] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I done a " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu /var/run/media/wolfheart/"Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64"/dists/trusty
[10:03] <rainbowwarrior>  " with the quotes and now I get this error "
[10:03] <rainbowwarrior> E: unknown location /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release "
[10:03] <RoBo_V> Guys what is this .fude_hidden file in my samba shared folder, can't delete it
[10:03] <stonner> cynicallemon, i purged nouveau drivers
[10:03] <stonner> cynicallemon, blacklisted nouveau driver
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, rebooted
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, go virtual terminal again
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, closes X window
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, installed nvidia 331.89 driver
[10:04] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu "/var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty"
[10:04] <stonner> cynicallemon, rebooted the system
[10:05] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, you can't use quotes in the middle like that
[10:05] <cynicallemon> stonner: did u manually download and install nvidia driver?
[10:05] <stonner> cynicallemon, yes
[10:05] <ech0s7> i have this problem: i have a daemon script that play audio (with aplay) every 5second. If i run this script from shell works perfectly. But if i launch it at boot (from /etc/rc.local) with same user, i don't hear audio. I have noticed only one difference with "ps aux", that when i launch from shell process have a TTY dedicated, instead from launching at boot from rc.local haven't a TTY. Why i don't hear audio when i launch at boot ??
[10:06] <cynicallemon> stonner: why didnt you do it via ubuntu?
[10:06] <rainbowwarrior> ObrienDave : Ok I done that and got this error " E: unknown location /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release
[10:06] <rainbowwarrior> "
[10:06] <stonner> cynicallemon, because i prefer to use a more recente nvidia driver
[10:06] <cynicallemon> stonner: so maybe thats your issue?
[10:07] <iptable> tonnwhy did you purge nouveau?
[10:07] <iptable> stonner, and HOW did you install nvidia driver?
[10:07] <stonner> cynicallemon, i tried ubuntu packages too, but no success
[10:07] <iptable> stonner, 1. shouldn't purge nouveau, 2. I need to know how you isntalled it.
[10:08] <stonner> iptable, i blacklisted nouveau
[10:08] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, precreate the directory
[10:08] <stonner> iptable, after nvidia installed, i removed nouveau
[10:08] <iptable> stonner, HOW?
[10:09] <stonner> iptable, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[10:09] <iptable> stonner, I will ask last time. HOW DID YOU INSTALL IT!
[10:10] <k1l> since he talked around it he did get the package from the nvidia site i think
[10:10] <stonner> iptable, download nvidia driver from nvidia website, give executable permissions, terminate lightdm, and isntall nvidia driver from command line
[10:10] <iptable> k1l, he also said "I tried the package as well". HOW? apt-get/the GUI provided, or hat
[10:10] <iptable> stonner, the nvidia driver for the website is unpatched and will not work
[10:11] <iptable> stonner, what you should have done was you should have used the provided drivers GUI in the OS. but if you insist on using the ocmmand line, 1. do NOT blacklist nouveau, no need. 2, execute this:
[10:11] <iptable> stonner, 1. apt-get install linux-headers, 2. apt-get install build-essential, 3. apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-331-updates-uvm nvidia-libopencl1-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[10:12] <iptable> stonner, it is because the driver needs to compile a module for the kernel, you need build-essential and linux-headers
[10:12] <stonner> iptable, i have build-essential a linux-headers installed
[10:13] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : same error
[10:13] <iptable> stonner, so now install the nvidia packages as I asked. if you can, uninstall beforehand
[10:13] <iptable> stonner, uninstall what you have already instaleld that it.
[10:13] <iptable> stonner, if you had installed from packages form start up, it probably would have worked for you ... hence it's in the repo. also, are you running hybrid graphics?
[10:14] <stonner> iptable, no, just one vga
[10:14] <votz> How can a VM that mounts an NFS export served by its host (mount <host interface>:/export) migrate to another host and mount/remount the new host's NFS share at the same address and path (mount <same host interface:/export) without interruption?
[10:14] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, http://glonek.co.uk/tips-tricks/ubuntu-debootstrap-and-chroot/
[10:14] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, full instruction step by step. just use trusty instead of jaunty
[10:14] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you
[10:14] <stonner> iptable, i always installed from nvidia website and never had problem until now
[10:15] <iptable> stonner, I used to do that until I found that nvidia drivers don't work well (and sometimes at all) on ubuntu. hence the patched version in the repos
[10:15] <sagar__> hi budyys
[10:15] <iptable> stonner, use the repos. they are there for a reason. e.g. if nvidia provides a driver that doesn't work.
[10:15] <sky_man> hi folks
[10:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, ins short, mkdir /mnt/sys01; debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/sys01 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[10:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, that should work for you
[10:16] <stonner> iptable, ok thank you
[10:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, all as root
[10:17] <stonner> iptable, i will try
[10:17]  * ObrienDave nap time. l8rs
[10:18] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Thank You that worked , I am sorry for being a pain
[10:18] <penos> just use windows firewall
[10:18] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, no, you just overcomplicated your life and your commands. first thing, avoid spaces if you can. second, follow my tutorial
[10:18] <cynicallemon> rainbowwarrior: debootstrap saves the day again
[10:19] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you :o)
[10:19] <rainbowwarrior> cynicallemon : yep
[10:19] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, my tutorial also covers some basic mounts, like proc and sys. you might want to add dev to the list too
[10:19] <penos> windows security essentials
[10:20] <cfhowlett> penos, channel check?
[10:20] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you
[10:20] <cynicallemon> penos: mutually exclusive terms there
[10:20] <cloneh> Keyboard layout changes randomly. What can I do? In the text input settings exists only one language.
[10:21] <cloneh> I think there is a shortcut that isn't related to the text input settings.
[10:22] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Ok i re-installed ubuntu
[10:23] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Same problem, It booted into windows
[10:23] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, did you play with "where to install grub" or left it as default?
[10:23] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, grub should have installed to /dev/sda
[10:24] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I left is as default
[10:24] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, if so, then windows and/or BIOS have UEFI boot security enabled, hence you cannot write grub to /dev/sda and install fails (pretend success of UEFI)
[10:24] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I killed secure boot in BIOS
[10:24] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, 10/10 it's not enabled .-.
[10:25] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, well, appears some security setting is amis. ubuntu still failed to write to /dev/sda and thought it succeeded
[10:25] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, So what can i do .-.
[10:26] <Vladimir_> iptable: is it possible to initiate the expect script after i logged in with ssh user@host ?
[10:26] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, DID you 1. remove battery (if laptop) and power supply cable from your computer and press power button once? you shoudl have. then insert battery and power cable, boot and boot straight into installer. if you fail to get to installer, repeat. that usually opens the security up.
[10:26] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, if not, then comb through BIOS. If you cannot find the right setting, you are most likely stuffed as you purchased a windows-only-hahaha-laptop.
[10:26] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, although that's unlikely. usually yhere is a way
[10:26] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, My laptop's battery's unremoveable
[10:27] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, ugh, ok. good luck. comb through BIOS. SOMETHING is stopping ubuntu from writing to UEFI
[10:27] <iptable> Vladimir_, why would you need to do that?
[10:27] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh user@host "commands-go-here"
[10:28] <iptable> Vladimir_, or better, put your commands in a simple script on remote host and then ssh user@host "/path/to/your/script"
[10:28] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, I joined the conversation just a few seconds ago. Did you bootet from the USB stick in UEFI mode?
[10:28] <iptable> Vladimir_, forget expect, please!
[10:28] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> cloneh, Yeah
[10:29] <Vladimir_> iptable: it's just that I've already done a big expect script :/
[10:29] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, and can you check if the installation of Ubuntu has succeded? The Ubuntu partition exists?
[10:29] <Vladimir_> which does all the neccessary commands
[10:29]  * Seromania is now away: Momentan nicht erreichbar
[10:29] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> cloneh, It does
[10:29] <lacop> Hi, I need some help with updating my kernel...
[10:29] <esseks> Hi guys! Suppose I have an existing LUKS+LVM layout on a UEFI machine. I would like to install Ubuntu in a lv I created for this purpose, let it mount my preexisting /home and and use kernel stub (no GRUB). I could work my way with old alternate (Debian style) installer, but now, how do I do that?
[10:30] <penos> lacop just do ot
[10:30] <penos> it
[10:30] <lacop> Need 3.13.0-35 for the nvidia drivers it seems, now on -32, I've downloaded linux-image-..-generic, image-extra and image-headers
[10:30] <penos> ?
[10:30] <theadmin> esseks: The minimal CD has a text installer. You can then pull in ubuntu-desktop using APT
[10:30] <lacop> ran update-grub and it shows up in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:30] <iptable> Vladimir_, and now redo it pproperly, it is a copy-paste job most of the way
[10:30] <lacop> but not in the boot menu
[10:30] <theadmin> !minimal
[10:30] <Vladimir_> iptable: thou after the ssh-copy-id login it keeps asking me about the password
[10:30] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh-copy-id copied your key over?
[10:30] <Vladimir_> yes
[10:31] <theadmin> esseks: The text installer is basically the same as the Debian one, except blue is replaced with purple
[10:31] <ruffalogauf> /leav/leave
[10:31] <Vladimir_> It succeded
[10:31] <iptable> Vladimir_, so if you ssh to the user@host yhat you did ssh-copy-id to, it should no longer ask for password
[10:31] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, you can try boot repair. It's an Ubuntu tool to fix the most common boot issues. Just boot from your Ubuntu USB stick, install boot repair and click "Recommended repair". https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:31] <penos> !ubuntu
[10:31] <lacop> The grub menu is still the same, showing only -32, I've tried editing the boot params from there and replaced 32 with 35, but it just went black and rebooted back to bios after a second
[10:31] <ddv> lacop: how did you install the kernel/
[10:31] <iptable> Vladimir_, unless some idiot disabled the only most useful features in ssh
[10:31] <lacop> ddv: apt-get install linux-image-...-generic, image-extra, headers
[10:31] <lacop> then update-grub
[10:31] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I hate grub and UEFI along with Windows 8.1 and secure boot .-.
[10:31] <Vladimir_> iptable: is it in the sshd config file?
[10:32] <Vladimir_> I'll check
[10:32] <penos> !linux
[10:32] <ddv> lacop: update-grub is automatically called if you install a kernel
[10:32] <lacop> But /boot/grub/grub.cfg is fine, however when I reboot I still see the old stuff
[10:32] <iptable> Vladimir_, yes. KeyBasedAuth or something along those lines
[10:32] <penos> !unintu
[10:32] <penos> !ubuntu
[10:32] <lacop> when I go to the other ubuntu submenu or what it's called there is only the -32 kernel, not the 35
[10:32] <lacop> I got 32, 33, 34 and 35 in /boot so not sure what's going on
[10:33] <ddv> lacop: I think it will remember 5 old kernels
[10:33] <ddv> or something like that
[10:33] <ddv> lacop: your new kernel is not in the list?
[10:33] <lacop> no, just the 32
[10:33] <lacop> the grub menu is not responding to the config for some reason
[10:34] <lacop> I can see all the new ones in grub.cfg, grub-customizer also shows them
[10:34] <penos> use HURD
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | penos,
[10:34] <ddv> penos: maybe in 20 years when it reaches the maturity of the linux kernel
[10:36] <lacop> ddv: any idea how to debug the grub menu?
[10:36] <ddv> lacop: no idea, maybe you should reinstall grub to your drive
[10:36] <lacop> but I don't think the grub menu is the sole issue, as I said...
[10:36] <lacop> when I select the old -32 kernel menu entry and modify it to 35 and boot, it just crashes
[10:37] <esseks> theadmin, thanks! Unfortunately, it seems that the mini CD cannot boot in UEFI mode. I would rather avoid the BIOS-to-UEFI path :(
[10:37] <ech0s7> where i can get info(how-to) to setup a process at boot ?
[10:37] <theadmin> esseks: Ah... yeah, I can see how that is a problem :/
[10:37] <theadmin> esseks: Does the DVD have a text install? I think it used to, but I dunno if it does now. Try holding Shift during boot and see
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Ok so..
[10:38] <theadmin> esseks: (left shift, that is)
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I disabled UEFI completely
[10:38] <user123321> kernel log got overloaded by around 30 MB with things like "FAT-fs (sdb1): error, invalid access to FAT (entry 0x61202073)" o.O
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And chose legacy
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> It boots straight to ubuntu, No grub
[10:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> just like the previous installation
[10:39] <cloneh> ExtremeDerpAndSo, did you tried boot repair?
[10:39] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> That broke ubuntu completely last time
[10:40] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, it DOES have grub, it's just that grub is configured with hidden-boot-menu
[10:40] <esseks> ExtremeDerpAndSo, maybe GRUB what-to-boot menu has a timeout set to 0 (and possibly, mode set to hidden)
[10:40] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> So.. How can i fix that?
[10:40] <penos> install slackware
[10:40] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> .-.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> penos, upi
[10:41] <esseks> Edit the respective variables in /etc/default/grub . Maybe paste it somewhere for us to check before editing.
[10:41] <esseks> _before_ ;)
[10:42] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> imma use pastebin
[10:42] <user123321> Machine got frozen again during boot with nothing on screen. Kernel log from the start of boot to the emergency restart: http://pastebin.com/A5V8yWjS
[10:42] <user123321> Any ideas? Thanks :)
[10:43] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> http://pastebin.com/GcrEb1Wt
[10:43] <NicksCode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8222583/ .... uhh how is that possible? The first update was done from the software updater and the second from the command line
[10:44] <esseks> ExtremeDerpAndSo, set `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3` and `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false`. Then run `sudo update-grub`.
[10:45] <Vladimir_> iptable: doesn't seem to work
[10:45] <sky_man> hi
[10:45] <iptable> Vladimir_, WHAT doesn't seem to work?
[10:45] <Vladimir_> iptable: I found PermitEmptyPasswords and changed it to "yes"
[10:45] <rainbowwarrior> hmm for a new I7 quad core laptop and an 80 MB internet connection it sure is being slow and still unpacking packages lol
[10:45] <Vladimir_> and still it asks me for password
[10:45] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Tells me i can't edit cause i am not root, Esseks
[10:45] <rainbowwarrior> and 8GB of memory
[10:45] <kagamiwaseda> hi
[10:45] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> imma try nano
[10:46] <rainbowwarrior> hello kagamiwaseda
[10:48] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> esseks , Now i reboot in UEFI or legacy?
[10:48] <Vladimir_> iptable: Thing is, maybe there's configuration on the switch to allow passwordless access..
[10:49] <iptable> Vladimir_, switch? what's switch got to do with server and client?
[10:49] <iptable> Vladimir_, NOT permit empty passwords, do not allow it!
[10:49] <iptable> Vladimir_, it's these: RSAAuthentication yes
[10:49] <iptable> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[10:49] <Vladimir_> iptable: okey, but can't find any KeyBasedAuth config
[10:50] <iptable> Vladimir_, it's these: RSAAuthentication yes and PubkeyAuthentication yes
[10:50] <iptable> Vladimir_, PLEASE! read, not guess.
[10:50] <user123321> Ok, I'm going to reboot and run a memtest, brb
[10:50] <Vladimir_> iptable: they're already "yes"
[10:51] <iptable> Vladimir_, so key based authentication is enabled and if you put you key (using ssh-copy-id or another method) from client to server authorized_keys it will work
[10:51] <Vladimir_> iptable: it's not a server it's a network device, a switch that ssh to
[10:51] <iptable> Vladimir_, it is the basic easiest task. Make sure you run it on CLIENT. You need to copy key from the client that will do the ssh to the server that will accept the connection. so ssh-copy-id should be run on client.
[10:52] <Vladimir_> oh oke3
[10:52] <iptable> :/
[10:52] <Vladimir_> iptable: oh I didn't understand that it should be on the client
[10:53] <odin> hi, I have a problem with UBUNTU not booting. The motherboard gets past boot and even past GRUB, but at some point through the boot process it just hangs
[10:53] <odin> then eventually restarts, what could this be?
[10:54] <rainbowwarrior> hmm
[10:55] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Booting in legacy, I got a black screen with a blinking " _ " on the top left of my screen, When i pressed enter, I was taken to ubuntu
[10:55] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> In UEFI, Straight to windows
[10:55] <user123321> back
[10:56] <knightshade> Hi
[10:57] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Are lenovo laptops famous for trouble with linux?
[10:58] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : how long does it take for debootstrap to unacpack required packages please ?
[10:58] <rainbowwarrior> unpack *
[10:59] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> rainbowwarrior , Idk about that debootstrap, But if it's unpacking as in extracting, That depends on your PC specs
[11:00] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> If it's downloading, That depends on your interderps speed
[11:00] <knightshade> Interderp?
[11:00] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Internet*
[11:03] <Vladimir_> iptable: can I have multiple public keys in the /etc/ssh/ folder? How will it know which one to use? When accessing the client?
[11:05] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : My laptop is an Acer Aspire V5 571P With an intel I7-3537U CPU and 8GB memory , Intel VGA compatible controller (can't remember exactly what ) and 80 MB broadband connection
[11:07] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> rainbowwarrior , It should be over soon then i guess ;p
[11:09] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : lol , Merry Christmas :P
[11:09] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> ;P;
[11:09] <ddv> rainbowwarrior: acer is pretty crappy
[11:11] <rainbowwarrior> well I am stuck with it now as I got rid of horrible windows 8 and its evil charms etc
[11:11] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> ddv , My previous acer laptop had no problems taking dual boot xD
[11:11] <rainbowwarrior> as i bought it in october last year
[11:11] <SimonJai> what could cause GRUB to break after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 by running "do-release-upgrade" ?
[11:11] <ddv> not sure why you would want to dual boot anyways, it's only annoying
[11:11] <blinky_ghost> t
[11:12] <iptable> Vladimir_, it will try roundrobin
[11:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> ddv, I still need windows for windows only applications
[11:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Like Spice
[11:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Which is a circuit simulator .-.
[11:12] <iptable> Vladimir_, or you can give ssh an option parameter. man ssh to find out.
[11:12] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : well just done a speed test and my download speed is 19.33 MBPS and upload speed is 12.26 MBPS
[11:12] <ddv> Etry a vm
[11:13] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, how long? between 10 minutes and 2 hours. depends on network speed and computer speed.
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> hello,
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> I have a installation problem
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> http://pastebin.com/gK0xBUPN
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> can you check it?
[11:18] <TurkerTunali> I may paste it here if you prefer
[11:19] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: my first thought is your install media is broken
[11:19] <ikonia> it's complaining of concatinated data
[11:20] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: I've already used that usb before and "Check disc for defects" not found any error
[11:20] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: that doesn't mean it's sane
[11:21] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: is it a liveusb ?
[11:21] <tarelerulz> Can any of you watched blue ray dvd Ubuntu?
[11:21] <ikonia> tarelerulz: yes, but it was a lot of effort due to the license of the software
[11:21] <Vladimir_> iptable: by the way, I got a really good tip for the timestamp issue, I can just do:  < find /katalog/i/ditt/filträd -cmin 10 -exec mv {} {}$(date "+%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M") >  inside of a while loop =)
[11:21] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: yes it is live
[11:22] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: can you boot it at all
[11:22] <TurkerTunali> I can't boot
[11:22] <TurkerTunali> try ubuntu and Install ubuntu fails the same way
[11:22] <Vladimir_> iptable: /katalog/i/ditt/filträd  being the directory you need to check
[11:22] <tarelerulz> Vladimir_:  Have you ever watched a blue ray?
[11:23] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Cats are not happy after a bath.
[11:23] <Vladimir_> tarelerulz: once or twice
[11:23] <ikonia> tarelerulz: please don't just ask random people
[11:23] <ikonia> ExtremeDerpAndSo: wrong channel, not here please.
[11:23] <backupneeded> Hi everyone, i want to do a backup to an external harddrive, over the commandline interface, but i want to be able to access the backups also on windows plattform (best with gui for standard users), is there a backup tools that i could use on ubuntu commandline to create backups and a compatible gui tool on windows to access the backups data files?
[11:24] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: there are some more errors at the begining, such as no media found and etc
[11:24] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: i may give detail
[11:24] <rainbowwarrior> iptable :ok thank you
[11:24] <TurkerTunali> i can boot to win7
[11:24] <ikonia> b	enterprise tools such as legato work
[11:24] <hateball> backupneeded: define "backup". is it copying files? compressing entire partitions? etc
[11:25] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: that sounds like your install media is not good
[11:26] <rainbowwarrior> Omg
[11:26] <tarelerulz> I have read on playing on blue rays and I have yet to find a guide if you will .   All the stuff tell you you need these file ,but never where to find them or even what to do with the files once you do .  I'm not asking random quotations , I was trying to see if any of you do watch blue ray .  I wanted to know what you did to make work
[11:26] <TurkerTunali> ikonia:should I download it again?
[11:26] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: I'd certainly try re-creating the install media
[11:26] <TurkerTunali> ok
[11:27] <backupneeded> hateball: there a serveral files within folders on a harddrive, it will be good if the backup is compressed somehow and if the backup should do full backups and backups from changed files only, too
[11:28] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: I have used Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.5.exe before and now I am creating media as before, thank you
[11:28] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: I've not used that tool, so can't comment
[11:28] <rainbowwarrior> I just done a check for interference in my neighbourhood and it says " Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm " and " Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s "
[11:29] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: you may right. windows says that usb should be scanned for errrors
[11:29] <cfhowlett> TurkerTunali, windows says that when it sees ubuntu ...
[11:30] <iptable> Vladimir_, the while loop thing sounds like a very bad workaround, together with find files created max 10 minutes ago trhing...
[11:30] <iptable> but ok
[11:30] <iptable> whatever works for you...
[11:31] <TurkerTunali> cfhowlett: no it doesn't say that before
[11:31] <Vladimir_> Well hopefully it works=) iptable
[11:31] <Yukiz> there is a moderator ?
[11:31] <ikonia> Yukiz: what's up ?
[11:31] <Yukiz> here ?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> Yukiz, ask your ubuntu questions
[11:33] <Yukiz> there is a moderator here ?
[11:34] <Vladimir_> iptable: about the ssh, I did send the key to the ssh server, and the key is inside the /etc/ssh/ folder but still it asks for the password, it doesn't seem like it's even finds any key but I don't know
[11:35] <EriC^^> Vladimir_: you can use ssh -v (or -vv, -vvv) for more info
[11:35] <Vladimir_> EriC^^: ok
[11:36] <Vladimir_> EriC^^: Well, it doesn't say much, just Authentication succeeded (password).
[11:37] <Vladimir_> it doesn't say anything about the public key o any key at all
[11:37] <EriC^^> Vladimir_: did you try -vvv ?
[11:37] <EriC^^> should mention searching for stuff
[11:38] <iptable> Vladimir_, why do you ssh to a switch anyways?
[11:38] <davecap99> hey guys I'm new here, just saying hello
[11:40] <Vladimir_> I have to ssh to the switch to be able to backup the configuration, I know there's some way to get the config via scp  but I just do it with the expect script for now
[11:40] <Vladimir_> iptable:
[11:40] <Vladimir_> iptable: we are changing from telnet to ssh
[11:40] <iptable> Vladimir_, nevermind, I don't want to know. Do you even have a pubkey? I have a feeling it didn't copy as it doesn't exist.
[11:40] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh-genkey?
[11:40] <Vladimir_> iptable: it did copy,
[11:41] <ikonia> why are we supporting network switch backups
[11:41] <ikonia> this has been going on for 5 days now
[11:41] <iptable> are you using ssh to same USER as you copied key to?
[11:41] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I just done a check for interference in my neighbourhood and it says " Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm " and " Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s "  and I have an Acer aspire v5 571p with 8gb Memory and an I7 CPU and 80mb internet connection ( current download speed 19mbps )
[11:41] <ikonia> I think we are getting beyond the scope of ubuntu here
[11:41] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, why you telling me?
[11:41] <Vladimir_> I created a key on the switch and I sent to with tftp to the server iptable
[11:41] <iptable> Vladimir_, wait, you are ssh'ing from switch to server?
[11:42] <Vladimir_> iptable: no, I sent with tftp method
[11:42] <iptable> ...
[11:42] <ikonia> Vladimir_: this is making no sense
[11:42] <ikonia> Vladimir_: I've watched you do this for 5 days now
[11:42] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : oh sorry , I think it is my network running slow and that why it is still unpacking the packages
[11:42] <iptable> Vladimir_, plain English, if you are trying to ssh from server to switch, first ssh-genkey ON SERVER, then ssh-copy-id user@switch ON SERVER. This will copy key from server to switch
[11:42] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of the solution is ubuntu releated to ?
[11:43] <ikonia> iptable: it's a procurve - iit won't work like that
[11:43] <iptable> oh, procurve...
[11:43] <Vladimir_> iptable: but that's the way I did it in the first place as you told me, but later you said that I should copy key from Client TO server :/ and that's what I've done now
[11:43] <ikonia> Vladimir_: this is a Procurve switch isn't it (?)
[11:43] <Vladimir_> ikonia: yeah procurve
[11:43] <ikonia> iptable: ok - so this is just all not going to work
[11:43] <iptable> Vladimir_, https://blog.espci.fr/jpuig/2011/07/21/public-key-only-ssh-access-to-procurve-2510g-tested-on-2510g-24-software-y-11-12-rom-n-10-02/
[11:44] <iptable> ikonia, it will, it just requires stupid commands to enable it
[11:44] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of this solution do you need help with ubuntu from
[11:44] <ikonia> iptable: sure - but for #ubuntu
[11:44] <oksefars> hey all i'm using ubuntu 12.04x64 on a server and suddenly the server has stopped booting and grub gives me an error 15 file not found, does anybody know what this is about?
[11:44] <iptable> Vladimir_, do you know what client and server is? you obviously don't. copy from client to server MEANS copy from machine you are ssh'ing to the machine you are ssh'ing TO
[11:44] <ikonia> I've watched blind configuration of this switch for 5 days now. We are well outside what #ubuntu is supposed to be used for
[11:44] <iptable> Vladimir_, client-server. standard IT terms. Ok, enough
[11:45] <TurkerTunali> ikonia: you were right, it is working now
[11:45] <ikonia> TurkerTunali: great news
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !cookie | ikonia,
[11:47] <rainbowwarrior> ExtremeDerpAndSo : Happy New Year lol , i must have the worlds slowest network
[11:48] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, it does take time. but once you are done, then umount the proc, dev, sysfs and cp -a /mnt/sys01 /mnt/sys02. Then you will have a quickly made duplicate and 2 systems to play with
[11:49] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, I usually keep one of them as a template to copy from
[11:49] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, forgot to ask you, what host are you using? also, what is the purpose of debootstrap in your case?
[11:51] <Vladimir_> iptable: well it doesn't seem to get passwordless working, because it works if I turn off RADIUS login on the switch but we all use RADIUS login here, so :..:/
[11:52] <ikonia> Vladimir_: stop for a moment
[11:52] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of this do you need ubuntu help with ?
[11:52] <Vladimir_> ikonia: I try to get passwordless ssh login to work from my ubuntu server to the switch
[11:52] <iptable> Vladimir_, unless it's a ubuntu-specific problem I suggest you speak either on ##networking or ##linux. This is not an ubuntu issue but the issue with your network, logins and switch
[11:52] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Ok Thank you , I am with Sky broadband , I am using debootstrap so I can hopefully get into Ubuntu and try and get 14.04 to work with my Aoc monitor as 13.10 does not seem to like it and it hangs at log-in and can not login via terminal or gui login screen
[11:53] <Vladimir_> ikonia: sorry, this seems like an issue for both ubuntu and switch :/
[11:53] <ikonia> Vladimir_: what part of it is an ubuntu issue ?
[11:53] <Vladimir_> iptable: no worries
[11:53] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, GUI in debootstrap? that's not going to go down too well
[11:54] <Vladimir_> ikonia: ssh login, I was recommended to use ssh passwordless login instead of expect script
[11:54] <ikonia> Vladimir_: you're not logging into the ubuntu machine though
[11:54] <Vladimir_> ikonia: anyhow don't worry, I'll figure this out
[11:54] <ikonia> Vladimir_: ubuntu is only the client
[11:54] <ikonia> Vladimir_: I think we need to stop supporting your switch ocnfig/setup here
[11:54] <iptable> Vladimir_, refer to your networks team and authentication team. also refer to your radius team. also refer to switch manual.
[11:54] <Vladimir_> yeah no probs=)
[11:55] <Vladimir_> thanks
[11:55] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, I would suggest instead you try it with a live USB stick
[11:55] <Nagendra> hi
[11:56] <nozen> Hey guys. One of the mirrors I use contains some packages that are also on the official trusty mirror, the packages on the third party mirror are of the same version but an older build. Is there a way to tell apt to prefer packages from the third party repository even though they are older ?
[11:56] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, or at least install ubuntu onto a USB drive and boot from that
[11:57] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, GUI from debootstrap can be SO flakey due to the /proc and /dev and /sys you are running belonging to the host (and a few other libc dependencies that are involved onthe host)
[11:57] <oksefars> hey i am running ubuntu on a server and it seems like grub.cfg has been overwritten
[11:57] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Ahh ok thank you
[11:58] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, although "monitor" issue oculd be a graphic card issue instead. more than happy to have a look once you boot from something into 14.04
[11:59] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you very much , it is much appreciated and your time
[11:59] <iptable> no problem
[12:01] <Elion> hello, i'm trying to run a script when a bluetooth device connect, how can i tell udev to run the script
[12:05] <rainbowwarrior> i like fat woman
[12:06] <dmatt> nozen: configure apt via /etc/apt/preferences i just read documentation, but never used it myself
[12:06] <rainbowwarrior> sorry about that my brother typed that in while i went away for a minute
[12:07] <SimonJai_> I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 LTS, after install I rebooted and it went straight into Grub console
[12:07] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : did you mean like a USB flash drive or USB hard drive ?
[12:07] <SimonJai_> any ideas?
[12:07] <riot> ahoy. So, network manager only places additional dns servers into resolv.conf that it can reach, yes? why? how can i give it one it should ALWAYS enter..?
[12:08] <riot> getting classic config based openvpn to work with NM is PITA deluxe.
[12:08] <EriC^^> SimonJai_: try to reinstall grub, update-grub
[12:08] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, any
[12:08] <SimonJai_> i can't get back into the OS?
[12:08] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, although USB hard drive WILL be much faster than flash drive
[12:08] <EriC^^> SimonJai_: you probably can, but if you have a live usb would be easy
[12:09] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : ok thank you
[12:09] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, your brother is in his "time to grow up" age I see
[12:09] <SimonJai_> oh wow
[12:09] <SimonJai_> i managed to boot into the OS
[12:09] <SimonJai_> lol
[12:09] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : yep
[12:09] <SimonJai_> EriC^^: do i reinstall grub on the root partition?
[12:09] <EriC^^> SimonJai_: on the disk
[12:09] <SimonJai_> the whole disk?
[12:10] <SimonJai_> mmmmm
[12:10] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:10] <riot> and why is network manager adding 127.0.1.1 to my resolv.conf? is it drunk?
[12:10] <SimonJai_> as in update-grub /dev/sda ???
[12:10] <EriC^^> if that's your disk yeah
[12:10] <SimonJai_> yep it is
[12:10] <SimonJai_> alright i'll give that a go, thanks
[12:10] <EriC^^> np
[12:10]  * SimonJai_ hopes it works
[12:13] <SimonJai_> EriC^^: update-grub or update-grub2 ??
[12:13] <EriC^^> update-grub , same i think
[12:14] <mregg> Hi all - Anybody knows whether the AST2300 graphics chip is compatible with Ubuntu 14.04? Thanks.
[12:15] <qwerkus> hello
[12:15] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : Ok I will be back soon , going to buy a usb drive :o)
[12:16] <ikonia> mregg: is that the onboard arm one ?
[12:16] <qwerkus> I get random complete freeze of my desktop (not even tty fallback possible) under ubuntu 14.04 using nvidia 340 drivers. Could somehow help me find out what exactly the problem is ?
[12:17] <mregg> ikonia: onboard a C224-based mobo, am currently building a server.
[12:17] <ikonia> mregg: who makes that chip (sorry I thought it was an arm one)
[12:17] <mregg> ikonia: Aspeed
[12:18] <ikonia> mregg: that's a remote access card
[12:18] <ikonia> mregg: not a graphics card
[12:18] <mregg> ikonia: no no, it's the integrated graphics card. Am looking at the Gigabyte GA-LXSV, that's what it says.
[12:19] <vak> hi all
[12:19] <ikonia> mregg: then "no" it won't have good X support
[12:19] <ikonia> mregg: although if it's a server, all you need is the tty console ?
[12:19] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, that's what I like in people from UK, we just go and buy the stuff :P
[12:19] <riot> i have to say, ubuntu's way of doing network is really very scary, sinister and unnecessarily complex.
[12:19] <mregg> ikonia: no, I want to be able to freenx or x2go to the server
[12:20] <vak> i use  "apt-get source --compile" to compile a huge package. Is it possible to pass "-j N" option to the make utility?
[12:20] <trexx> I'm getting this error "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory" any solution ?
[12:20] <ikonia> mregg: I wouldn't advise that then
[12:20] <ikonia> trexx: impossible to help with that little info
[12:22] <trexx> ikonia: wheneva i'm using "sudo" command the error will be shown.
[12:22] <kudakwashe> is unity a window manager?
[12:22] <kudakwashe> can you call unity a window manager?
[12:23] <EriC^^> no, unity is a de
[12:23] <kudakwashe> or does it uses metacity?
[12:23] <EriC^^> compiz is the window mananger
[12:23] <ikonia> trexx: so id you do "sudo ls" do you get that error ?
[12:23] <kudakwashe> compiz, not metacity, by default in 14.04?
[12:23] <kudakwashe> EriC^^: ?
[12:24] <EriC^^> kudakwashe: unity is a desktop environment, compiz is the window manager it uses
[12:24] <kudakwashe> EriC^^: thanks
[12:24] <trexx> I've solve it at my own.
[12:24] <EriC^^> np
[12:25] <trexx> ikonia: libpass-samba package was created problem.
[12:25] <ikonia> great
[12:25] <rtur> dmatt: (I'm nozen) Yes, I did that. Doesn't show any effect though. Here is my preference file http://paste.ubuntu.com/8223155/
[12:26] <dmatt> rtur: you must run apt-get update before it is taken into account
[12:27] <dmatt> rtur: apt-cache policy name_of_the_package to investigate how it affected chosen package
[12:28] <rtur> dmatt: I know, I did. But apt-cache policy package-name still shows the ubuntu mirror as origin.
[12:31] <blackangelpr> Salute to all :)
[12:36] <Ziber> I'm trying to understand how logrotate works. I have http://pastebin.com/kSVmGb9r in my logrotate.d file, but the actual behavior of this (http://pastebin.com/M3XDN48K) is not what I want. What I want it to do is to keep 30 days of the log files, rotating it once per day, appending -YYYYMMDD to the old file. I don't know why it's doing -YYYYMMDD-YYYYMMDD, etc.
[12:40] <lyzgg> mn m
[12:40] <iptable> Ziber, I know ;) you are rotating the rotated logs already
[12:40] <iptable> Ziber, /root/scripts/log/snap* will capture already rotated logs and rotate them again
[12:41] <rtur> dmatt: Oh, forget it. It was just me being dumb, apt works. Thanks.
[12:41] <iptable> Ziber, replace with definite value which does not capture rotated log filenames as well, e.g. /root/scripts/log/snap_expire.log, without the star
[12:42] <dmatt> rtur: glad you resolved it
[12:48] <adante> hi, i have run this command: DISPLAY=:0 gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false
[12:48] <adante> nothing has happened - how can i check if it has applied?
[12:51] <Azitrex> i installed ubuntu but i dont see where is terminal ?
[12:51] <Azitrex> ubunut 14
[12:52] <iptable> adante, well, if it didn't complain then it probably worked. although gsettings have a get option to see the settings
[12:52] <iptable> adante, man gsettings said so
[12:52] <SimonJai_> "grub-install: warning: this msdos-style partition label has no post-MBR gap; embedding won't be possible."
[12:52] <SimonJai_> uhhhhh what to do?
[12:52] <iptable> adante, as per the gsettings manual, line number 3: DISPLAY=:0 gsettings get org.gnome.Vino require-encryption
[12:53] <dav1dp0101> Does anyone have a good suggestion for making regular scheduled dumps of my entire system image via the dump command on crontab?
[12:54] <adante> iptable: thanks!
[12:57] <iptable> dav1dp0101, yes, don't do it
[12:58] <iptable> dav1dp0101, it is an ext2 dump/restore. their manuals and docs don't state that it can even do ext3/4 or other filesystems. use a proper backup solution or your own one
[12:59] <dav1dp0101> iptable: thanks. What about the dd command?
[12:59] <iptable> dav1dp0101, typically, I would suggest you dump the MBR using dd and either in offline mode dump partitions OR in online mode use rsync (or equivalent) or tar
[13:00] <iptable> dav1dp0101, dd in online mode can result in a corrupt filesystem backup. dd in offline mode won't. I suggest dd only MBR (can be done at any time) and rsync/tar if online. if offline mode (i.e. system unmounted), you can use dd
[13:00] <dav1dp0101> iptable: what do you mean: dd only MBR?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> iptable, "online" = mounted or actually on internet.  I don't understand why?
[13:01] <iptable> dav1dp0101, if ytou plan on restoring to another HDD, you will need the MBR to boot
[13:01] <iptable> cfhowlett, online = mounted. offline = unmounted
[13:01] <iptable> cfhowlett, if you dd a drive that is mounted, file change written to fs and at the moment of dd may differ.
[13:02] <iptable> dav1dp0101, MBR has the code to actually boot your OS. alternatively, your recovery procedure could be 1. boot from livecd 2. partition drive, 3. recover backup, 4. while still in liveCD, chroot to recovered partition nad run grub-install /dev/sda. this would work and no dd backup of MBR required
[13:02] <iptable> dav1dp0101, that would actually be preferred unless you know what you are doing with MBRs
[13:03] <iptable> dav1dp0101, on backup methods and software to choose from, why not have a look at ubuntu community documentation? very good it is. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[13:04] <dav1dp0101> iptable: My server is always online and mounted, so i have to come up with a solution that works in that environment. I want more than one backup/restore procedure. I have a 500MB mounted hard drive, and a 1 TB external hard drive partitioned into two. I'm already using rsync to backup the files onto an external partition. I wanted to use the other partition for system images. hence dump (or dd). I've looked at the link you menti
[13:04] <dav1dp0101> oned above, which suggested using dump for raw backups.
[13:04] <iptable> dav1dp0101, I use btrfs filesystem instead of ext3/4 and perform backups by first making a snapshot and then I rsync the snapshot over to the remote machine which also has btrfs and root filesystem. recovery is as simple as restoring snapshot on backup machine
[13:05] <dav1dp0101> iptable how do you make snapshots?
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, only if you use ext2...
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, on btrfs filesystem, I type in btrfs snapshot create /
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, LVM also supports snapshots
[13:05] <iptable> dav1dp0101, although, if you rsync the whole system, why would you want a raw image?
[13:05] <Tots> In xubuntu, where's the startup file where I can execute commands upon startup?
[13:06] <iptable> dav1dp0101, restore to new drive partition and run grub-install and you are back online
[13:06] <Tots> unless after configuring x11vnc, it's handled automatically
[13:06] <iptable> Tots, upon startup of system, GUI or upon login to GUI?
[13:06] <Tots> Preferably startup of GUI without logging in
[13:06] <dav1dp0101> iptable: i'm using rsync on the root folder. i want a raw image as an alternative method of backing up. Two backups is safer than one.
[13:06] <iptable> Tots, startup of actual system, before GUI boots is either /etc/init/* or /etc/init.d/* (both work, pick one).
[13:07] <Tots> Thank you much :)
[13:07] <iptable> Tots, that needs the correct format of a script though, look at what is there already
[13:07] <iptable> dav1dp0101, raw image is not a safe method. just rsync to 2 locations
[13:08] <iptable> dav1dp0101, if you want a raw image you HAVE TO take your system offline
[13:08] <ValdikSS> Hello. I have a strange problem with my keyboard. I have Logitech K200 USB keyboard, and multimedia keys are working with some kind of delay. I can't press, for example, volume down 5 times a second, it simply won't work. Everything is fine in Windows.
[13:08] <ValdikSS> evdev detects my keyboard as 2 separate keyboards. One is "usual" keyboard and another one is with multimedia keys only.
[13:08] <ValdikSS> "high-level" utilites like xev and showkey doesn't detect all the keypresses, even evtest, which works on device level (/dev/input/event*) doesn't detect it. What should I do?
[13:08] <Tots> can I modify rc.local in init.d with the line I want to add?
[13:09] <iptable> Tots, apparently yes :)
[13:09] <Tots> It'd just be a simple: x11vnc -safe -forever
[13:09] <dav1dp0101> iptable: oh, I see. I'm using ext4, so can I run the snapshot create command you mentioned above?
[13:09] <iptable> Tots, can x11vnc start before the GUI loads? if so, then yes. put it in rc.local
[13:09] <iptable> Tots, otherwise, you would need something much more intelligent
[13:10] <iptable> dav1dp0101, no. that's btrfs only.
[13:10] <iptable> dav1dp0101, if you have LVM, then that support snapshots too, although I don't know how well you can backup those
[13:11] <iptable> dav1dp0101, but scrap that. use rsync and liveUSB to recover. boot from liveUSB, mount the partition to which you recover, chroot to it, grub-install to the MBR you are done!
[13:11] <iptable> dav1dp0101, and you should at least be using raid1
[13:11] <chamo> hi all
[13:12] <Doctor_Nick> oh no
[13:12] <Doctor_Nick> borderlands twooo
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Doctor_Nick, ask your ubuntu questions
[13:13] <Doctor_Nick> is the plural of ubuntu ubuntus
[13:14] <dav1dp0101> iptable: no i didn't install LVM. I had the option to, but I thought it would be unnecessarily complicated. ok, i see your suggestion is sound. So in your recovery scenario, am I copying my backed up root folder to the internal hard drive? That's what I want to do. If it was corrupt, I would format the hard drive, run a fresh install of the OS, and the copy the backed up root folder into the new root folder.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Doctor_Nick, good question for #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please discuss there.
[13:14] <dav1dp0101> I didn't use RAID1. My hard drive is only 500MB. If I used RAID1, would that reduce my hard drive space by half?
[13:15] <ikonia> do you mean 500GB?
[13:15] <Tots> That's not working >.<
[13:15] <dav1dp0101> Yeah, iptable & ikonia, i meant 500MB hard drive.
[13:15] <ikonia> raid is between 2 devices, so it won't reduce your hard drive space, it will just waste the second disk as a mirror
[13:15] <Tots> I'm trying to use x11vnc and I set a password, then I'm trying to run it just in terminal and it's not holding
[13:15] <dav1dp0101> iptable, ikonia, 500GB.
[13:15] <ikonia> so the second disk won't have usable space
[13:16] <Tots> but now, I can't even get into it via VNC for some reason, port forwarding isn't an issue
[13:16] <dav1dp0101> ikonia: can I run RAID1 on an external hard drive?
[13:16] <iptable> dav1dp0101, to use raid1, you need 2 drives. and both act as a single drive, having copy of data between each other
[13:16] <ikonia> dav1dp0101: I'd advise against it
[13:16] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so you need 2x500MB (2 drives at 500MB each) and you will have 500MB of space in raid1, but any drive can crash and it will work
[13:17] <Musa845> i am using ubuntu with one NIC card and I want to share internet on LAN. I have a hub on LAN with some PCs. any help for this?
[13:17] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so on a server, use RAID1 and backup to external location/drive using RSYNC. that is very stable backup assuming office doesn't catch fire
[13:17] <Tots> in modifying /etc/rc.local, you put the command before exit 0, yes?
[13:18] <iptable> Tots, yes
[13:18] <dav1dp0101> iptable , ikonia: but i worry that if there is a problem with a corrupt device, then it will be a problem on both devices (raid0 ad raid1) since they are mirrors of each other.
[13:18] <Tots> Things don't seem to want to play
[13:18] <ikonia> dav1dp0101: it doesn't work like that
[13:19] <iptable> dav1dp0101, no, raid1 mirrors data, not device corruption. raid1 protects you from physical fault with hard drives. backup will protect you in case you remove your OS, blow up your machine, or for example loose all data due to filesystem corruption on both disks.
[13:20] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so, raid1 is needed for servers, really. I have had a drive fail once in a while in my servers. you just swap it, make the dmraid remirror and you are up and running
[13:20] <dav1dp0101> ikonia: why not? Any software bug or error on disk will be on RAID0 and RAID1. Also, I only have one device with a CPU (and 500GB disk space) plus one external HDD (1 TB size). So i don't think i'm set up for RAID1. Why can't I run RAID1 on an external HDD?
[13:20] <iptable> dav1dp0101, well, you were still running and loss of HDD in raid1 means you are still online. even during remirror
[13:20] <Tots> iptable: you wouldn't happen to know anything about x11vnc, would you? I'm just trying to get it to execute the server every time the computer starts so I can get into it remotely. If I execute it in command-line after start, it's fine
[13:20] <ikonia> dav1dp0101: too slow
[13:21] <iptable> dav1dp0101, software bug will be on RAID1 what? dmraid is stable as hell. NEVER had anyone say it crashed
[13:21] <Tots> But I've got x11vnc -forever -usepw  in before exit 0 in rc.local but it does not seem to want to execute that line or it's executing it before something is not ready and that's ending it. I need it to execute before the computer logs in
[13:21] <dav1dp0101> iptable: it looks like I can't use RAID1 without sacrificing half my disk space (500GB) which is not an option. RAID1 requires another device, right?
[13:21] <iptable> dav1dp0101, sounds like your setup is not server-ready. usb drives are slow as well. use rsync to backup, that IS the solution. you cannot create raw images of online filesystem. your backup will be corrupt.
[13:22] <iptable> dav1dp0101, yes, RAID1 = 2 devices. you will have space of one device, the other acts as a mirror
[13:22] <iptable> dav1dp0101, that server is not fit for purpose. considered buying a HP Microserver N40L for example? 100GBP and 4 drive slots, 2 core CPU and 2 GB of RAM
[13:22] <iptable> dav1dp0101, anyways, that's another subject.
[13:24] <iptable> dav1dp0101, now read on about how RAID1 works, vs RAID0 which you quoted (which is NOT redundancy and you loose 1 dirve you loose all data on RAID0). read also on the link I have given you and investigate the different file-level backup solutions present.
[13:25] <dav1dp0101> iptable: well we don't have the budget to buy another device like the HP Microserver. We're stuck with what we have. Although maybe we could upgrade our internal HD to 1 TB. But that won't give us RAID1.
[13:26] <dav1dp0101> iptable: I'll use rsync to backup the root folder to two separate partitions on the external HDD.
[13:26] <dav1dp0101> iptable: I think that's about all I can do in terms of backing up my server.
[13:27] <iptable> dav1dp0101, *we* don't have *budget* for 100 GBP? what company is that?
[13:29] <dav1dp0101> iptable: a small campus/community radio station. This whole server upgrade is grant funded by the government.
[13:29] <cfhowlett> dav1dp0101, sell some cookies!  100 gb for secure backup is not a luxury, it's a basic need.
[13:31] <dav1dp0101>  cfhowlett: What do you mean 100 GB? for RAID1 I need the same size disk on the device, 500 GB.
[13:31] <iptable> that's under 200USD. you could make that much by fixing a computer for a few neighbours I'm sure.
[13:32] <iptable> dav1dp0101, 100GBP, great-british-pound. It's a currency
[13:32] <iptable> dav1dp0101, instead, if you have such problems, why not sell the server on eBay and go with the cloud? virtual hosting is dirt cheap nowadays and gives you more power for less price.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> iptable, doh!  sorry dav1dp0101 .  I saw gb not gpb.  foot insert mouth syndrome.
[13:33] <iptable> dav1dp0101, instead, if you have such problems, why not sell the server on eBay and go with the cloud? virtual hosting is dirt cheap nowadays and gives you more power for less price.
[13:33] <iptable> cfhowlett, wouldn't you agree on that one? ^
[13:33] <dav1dp0101> iptable: no I need an additional device, which is more like 500$ CAD (canadian dollars). I'll talk to the project manager, but let's just say the chances are highly slim.
[13:33] <Tots> omg, why is this so complicated and why can't I do it >.<
[13:34] <cfhowlett> iptable, setting up a could sounds like an option.  Didn't/doesn't Amazon give away a free cloud hosting package of some sort?
[13:34] <ddv> Tots: because of pebcak
[13:34] <ddv> :-)
[13:34] <Tots> I made a config file in etc/init/  told it to start the prgoram, and still no-go. :/ I just want to run a freaking vnc server for the server
[13:34] <Tots> It just doesn't seem to want to start
[13:35] <iptable> Tots, and rc.local?
[13:35] <Tots> iptable, I tried rc.local with the same command and args. Still nothing
[13:35] <ddv> does Ubuntu still use upstart? with systemd it's easy to set that up, did you chmod +x the file?
[13:35] <Tots> I think since the program never returns, that rc.local never gets to exit 0
[13:35] <iptable> cfhowlett, yes it does. and a lot of companies will charge something silly like 20USB/15GBP per month for a nice server spec. dav1dp0101 why is that a problem?
[13:36] <iptable> Tots, in rc.local try to run the app with & character to background it
[13:36] <ddv> 20 usb sticks, iptable?
[13:36] <iptable> USD
[13:36] <Tots> iptable, the app when run in terminal with an & will not continue on
[13:36] <iptable> you see I type USB miuch more :D
[13:36] <Tots> it won't run multiple
[13:37] <iptable> Tots, 1. disable the GUI (actually go to terminal turn it off with /etc/init.d/whatever-dm stop), 2. try x11vnc and see what happens
[13:37] <iptable> Tots, my guess is that you need the GUI working before starting x11vnc, which is a bitr of a problem then
[13:37] <Tots> it's a GUI application that forwards x11. Where is x11's config again? Can't I just attach to that?
[13:38] <Tots> That way, x11 WILL start, and THEN I can execute it
[13:38] <iptable> Tots, no idea sorry. there is a config file somewhere, just unsure where
[13:39] <iptable> Tots, on login is much easier, as after login scripts can be executed with "startup" option in ubuntu
[13:39] <cfhowlett> dav1dp0101, clearly you know your issue parameters better than I do, but storage, especially cloud based, is approaching the point of inconsequential cost.  Balanced against the benefits of backup/recovery, I wonder if a funding proposal might be worth considering.
[13:39] <Tots> it's a server, I need to be able to vnc into the box when it reboots, regardless
[13:40] <ddv> Tots: why does a server need a gui?
[13:40] <rainbowwarrior> topic
[13:40] <rainbowwarrior> oops
[13:40] <gp5st> hello. I just did an apt-get update and it upgraded firefox to ff 32.  This isn't compatible with selenium and I need to downgrade. Is there a clean way todo that with apt? Or do I need to grab a deb and install it by hand?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> gp5st, I dist-upgraded and I'm still on ff 31. Did you enable "proposed" repos or something?
[13:42] <dav1dp0101> cfhowlett, iptable: I don't disagree that backup/recovery is of primary importance. For some reason I thought I could take snapshots and use rsync on my server and not need a second device. That was my mistake. But now that we've got this equipment, I've got to make do with them. A monthly fee is i out of the question, i think. The reason I didn't choose to do RAID1 is that I've heard bad things about it. And my limited experienc
[13:42] <dav1dp0101> e has been that when RAID0 crashes, RAID1 crashes too (that was in a previous workplace with a different sysadmin).
[13:42] <Phil_fl> xit
[13:43] <gp5st> cfhowlett: I shouldn't have.  This was set up by IT at my office (to my shagrin) and they
[13:43] <iptable> dav1dp0101, raid0 is totally different to raid1, so no, your experience is wrong
[13:43] <gp5st> 're ussally conservative about stuff like that
[13:43] <Tots> Dang, I even tried writing the command to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and still nothing.
[13:44] <dav1dp0101> iptable: no I mean when using RAID1, when the main device crashed, the mirror crashed too. Both systems went down!
[13:44] <iptable> dav1dp0101, whoever told you that, lied. raid0 means data is striped acorss drives. you loose 1 drive, you loose all data. raid1 means that data is mirrored across 2 drives. you loose 1 drive, you just replace it and remirror to new one
[13:44] <iptable> dav1dp0101, no, the idea of raid1 is that when one drive crashes, you system continues and you just replace the drive. and that idea WORKS!
[13:45] <iptable> dav1dp0101, hence out of my 1000s-of-server-in-datacentre-with-20-datacentres experience, we ALWAYS used RAID. RAID1 or RAID6, depending on HDD number and use scenario.
[13:45] <dav1dp0101> iptable: I understand the idea. I'm saying that's not what happened previously. Both drives went down.
[13:45] <iptable> dav1dp0101, nope, that's impossible from raid perspective
[13:45] <superkuh> Weird. I just updated to 14.04. Now any OpenGl application will cause minor screen corruption in the form of black squares overlaying other positions on the screen.
[13:46] <iptable> dav1dp0101, either the story is a lie from someone who didn't know jack, OR possibly both were from a faulty batch from the same manufacturing line and both died on the same day. that IS possible and did happen on a number of occasions
[13:46] <cfhowlett> gp5st, I do daily updates/dist-upgrades.   I don't understand how you've got 31.  anyway, the only way I know to regress would be with a .deb
[13:47] <cfhowlett> superkuh, might need to tweak your graphic driver or settings
[13:47] <AtuM> dav1dp0101, do you use hardware raid1?
[13:47] <dav1dp0101> iptable: besides, RAID1 provides redundancy, but it's not a backup.
[13:47] <superkuh> I suppose so. It'll probably break all my OpenCl stuff but time for another driver reinstall.
[13:49] <dav1dp0101> AtuM: no hardware raid1.
[13:49] <AtuM> davidcalle, what you're describing is what happened to me when I used mdraid for raid1 and the first drive went down - after reboot it did not boot since there was no grub on the surviving drive. this happens a lot with default installations ;-)
[13:49] <davidcalle> dav1dp0101, ^
[13:50] <AtuM> davidcalle, sorry ;-) I ment dav1dp0101
[13:50] <davidcalle> AtuM, no worries :)
[13:50] <AtuM> davidcalle, hope I did not wake you up there ;)
[13:50] <iptable> dav1dp0101, correct. you need raid1 for redundancy. that's backup against failing drives (hardware). you need rsync or other solution for backups against total disaster failure or corruption. you need that rasync/other backup with versioning (incremental/differencial) for accidental data deletion recovery in time.
[13:50] <davidcalle> AtuM, how dare you waking me up at work!
[13:51] <davidcalle> ;)
[13:51] <AtuM> davidcalle, please spare me.
[13:51] <iptable> AtuM, that's installation FAIL. you have to grub-install /dev/sda and /dev/sdb after system install. thats' NOT what he is describing (both drives died apparently...)
[13:51] <iptable> dav1dp0101, so that, together with the link I have given you and other info is enough for you to make a good backup plan.
[13:52] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone, is it possible to move a thunderbird profile folder from a windows machine to my linux machine? I know this works fine from windows to windows or linux to linux, but does it also work over different OS ?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, export the data from source, move it to target, import.  done.
[13:53] <AtuM> iptable, so true.. what I wouldn't do to have a chance at such an installation fail on 14.04 desktop. I know how to correct it - the 14.04 desktop has no mdraid anymore.. any known guide out there on how to make it work ???
[13:53] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: what do you mean with export and import? just copy the folder?
[13:54] <iptable> AtuM, you got me lost there. why can't you install mdraid? or install ubuntu-server and then issue apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, wait 1 - searching
[13:54] <superkuh> Dang. I thought updating to fglrx-updates would fix it. It didn't.
[13:54] <iptable> dav1dp0101, and never use hardware raid unless you got manufacturer replacement part guarantee (so they can replace with exactly same part). HW raid controllers are NOT compatible with each other, even different models from same manufacturer. Software raid for basic installations is much better. recover to any other hardware.
[13:55] <iptable> dav1dp0101, that's from "failed controller/motherboard/server" perspective
[13:55] <superkuh> It doesn't show the corruption in screenshots. I'd have to physically take photos of my monitors.
[13:55] <dav1dp0101> iptable, cfhowlett, AtuM: thanks for all the advice. Ultimately I'm not gonna go with raid1, but I am gonna do my rsyncs a bit better.
[13:55] <superkuh> Even just running fglrxinfo does it.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, "address book > tools > import|export"
[13:55] <cfhowlett> dav1dp0101, happy2help
[13:55] <AtuM> iptable, I've tried installing ubuntu-server also. but the end result was a loop when initrd tried to bring up the md devices.. could't figure that one out - lack of time
[13:55] <superkuh> Like fglrxinfo is somehow using the RAM of the X display.
[13:56] <superkuh> As soon as that part of the X display is updated by some other process it goes away.
[13:56] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: i was not talking about the adress book, sorry if this was not written clear enough
[13:56] <AtuM> dav1dp0101, I'd go with hardware raid1 and rsync as a backup.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, of course   :)   there's a way - searching
[13:57] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: I want to move the whole thunderbird profile to another maschine
[13:57] <iptable> AtuM, worked out of the box here
[13:57] <dav1dp0101> AtuM: i think you missed the earlier convo, but I can't do hardware Raid1 because we don't have enough hardware.
[13:57] <iptable> AtuM, some other issue I guess
[13:57] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: i know this works from one windows machine to another, I was just wondering if this will also work across different OS
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, I think if you have an OS agnostic format (text delimited, for example) it works without issue
[13:58] <AtuM> dav1dp0101, oh, that can be quite limiting, true. Best of luck with rsync!
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, I can't see this (great chinese firewall) but I think it explains all   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail
[13:59] <Moscherkobold> cfhowlett: thank you :)
[13:59] <AtuM> iptable, I made the exact same thing on some newer hardware also.. that system is plain old - so i went and installed debian stable - old software for an old workstation ;-)
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Moscherkobold, even better ( I guess)  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup
[14:00] <_unreal_> any one very knowledgeable about NAS servers?
[14:02] <iptable> AtuM, ah too new for you :P
[14:02] <iptable> _unreal_, a lot of people
[14:03] <_unreal_> the issue I'm having is that I keep having access issues to my DSM-G600
[14:03] <_unreal_> I try to FTP into it to add/remove files and get no route to host errors
[14:04] <_unreal_> Response:	425 Can't build data connection: No route to host.
[14:04] <_unreal_> Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[14:04] <_unreal_> I had a LOT of small files. could it be that the nas is having issues with a large volume of files and folders?
[14:06] <iptable> _unreal_, that's networking issue. don't use FTP if you can avoid it. it's sh1t
[14:07] <_unreal_> i'm getting the same issues I believe both on SMB and ftp
[14:07] <running_rabbit07> I installed Nemo, then after a restart there are icons on the desktop for trash and whatnot, can I use this command to remove them? I found it on an Arch wiki. "gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons false"
[14:07] <iptable> _unreal_, it's probably FTP issue even. works using other access protocols? smb? web? If so, it's FTP is bad. if not, you have a networking problem.
[14:07] <iptable> _unreal_, we don't work with "I believe". TEST!
[14:07]  * iptable goes to pickup kids from sch00l
[14:08] <_unreal_> school? you must be in uk
[14:08] <_unreal_> I just dropped mine off 2 hours ago
[14:11] <TurkerTunali> what should I check if sudo pm-hibernate does nothing?
[14:11] <TurkerTunali> i have enoug swap space
[14:11] <_unreal_> does nothing?
[14:11] <TurkerTunali> swap is larger than memory
[14:11] <running_rabbit07> nevermind, I used "gsettings set org.nemo.desktop home-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop trash-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop computer-icon-visible false; gsettings set org.nemo.desktop volumes-visible false"
[14:12] <expunge> TurkerTunali: might check your BIOS config
[14:12] <TurkerTunali> expunge: Which BIOS settings? I can hibernate on win7
[14:12] <_unreal_> win7 has nothing to do with your bios
[14:12] <expunge> TurkerTunali: on the same box, you mean?
[14:13] <TurkerTunali> yea same laptop
[14:13] <expunge> oh okay
[14:13] <_unreal_> your bios is what you access the moment you power on your laptop
[14:13] <expunge> TurkerTunali: do you have a script that says 'suspend' instead of 'hibernate'?
[14:13] <TurkerTunali> I have suspend
[14:13] <expunge> try that
[14:13] <TurkerTunali> ok, I am trying suspend. Does suspend means hibernate?
[14:14] <_unreal_> suspend and hibernate are different levels of powering down your computer for low or zero power consumption
[14:15] <expunge> well, really they're just arbitrary names
[14:15] <expunge> S# states are the actualities
[14:15] <TurkerTunali> I need zero power
[14:15] <expunge> TurkerTunali: try it and see if it draws power
[14:15] <TurkerTunali> I usually hibernate my computer
[14:15] <expunge> TurkerTunali: you usually press something that _says_ "hibernate"
[14:15] <TurkerTunali> ok I will try just need a moment
[14:16] <_unreal_> ok let us know AS you hibernate :)
[14:16] <expunge> the long names, "suspend", "hibernate" are a bit like intel processor codenames
[14:16] <expunge> they tell you almost nothing =)
[14:16] <TurkerTunali> I am hibernating now :)
[14:16] <expunge> =)
[14:16] <TurkerTunali> transforming to ....
[14:16] <_unreal_> shhhh he's hibernating
[14:16] <acidrain_> hello. i am running ubuntu 12.10. lately ive been having issues with KDE crashing alot more frequently. i wish to upgrade KDE to the newest 4.9. is this safe?
[14:17] <expunge> acidrain_: if the package manager allows it, it should be safe
[14:17] <acidrain_> ok. ill try it.
[14:17] <_unreal_> when does it crash most often? certain activies?
[14:18] <acidrain_> _unreal_, is seems to crash most when im away from it. ill return to the computer and see that processors are running at 0%
[14:18] <acidrain_> it morely 'freezes' right after that
[14:18] <acidrain_> it works just enough for me to open terminal and restart kde
[14:18] <expunge> maybe something to do with your power management
[14:18] <_unreal_> is this a new development?
[14:19] <acidrain_> expunge, when i first installed kde. it would actually crash maybe once every 10 days
[14:19] <acidrain_> its down to about once every day now
[14:19] <expunge> that's a lot of crashing itself =)
[14:19] <acidrain_> usually opening firefox and watching netflix causes a crash
[14:19] <expunge> although, if I had to guess, it's not necessarily KDE as much as... how it's packaged =)
[14:19] <expunge> mmm, well
[14:19] <expunge> that involves silverlight
[14:19] <_unreal_> AHHHHHH firefox
[14:19] <expunge> all bets are off =P
[14:20] <_unreal_> acidrain_, have you cleared your browser cache at all?
[14:20] <acidrain_> thats the only way i know to MAKE it crash. and it doesnt work everytime
[14:20] <acidrain_> _unreal_, id say not in the past 2yrs
[14:20] <expunge> acidrain_: what are you using for netflix?
[14:20] <expunge> development on that is fast
[14:21] <expunge> even though now they've bogarted it and starting implementing "HTML5" video
[14:21] <_unreal_> clearing your data cache in your browser wont hurt any and will clear your overhead on that software
[14:21] <_unreal_> besure not to clear your password list and any other senstive datayou dont want to loose
[14:21] <acidrain_> http://pastebin.com/LxDcfFkb  ???
[14:22] <acidrain_> expunge, its a silverlight alternative
[14:22] <acidrain_> forgot what its called.
[14:22] <_unreal_> non-free soft no doubt I bet
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !monolight
[14:22] <TurkerTunali> expunge: my computer just sleeps when Suspend, eg it needs power for memories
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !info moolight
[14:23] <acidrain_> yep. monolight it is
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !info monolight
[14:23] <expunge> I was interested in what he was using
[14:23] <expunge> not what you think he is talking about =P
[14:23] <expunge> or your spam =P
[14:23]  * expunge headdesks
[14:23] <expunge> TurkerTunali: okay
[14:23] <expunge> TurkerTunali: you're using ordinary Ubuntu?
[14:23] <TurkerTunali> yes, 14.04 fresh install
[14:23] <expunge> acidrain_: I don't think moonlight works with netflix
[14:24] <expunge> acidrain_: was it the netflix-desktop package?
[14:24] <expunge> (dpkg -l | grep -i netflix)
[14:24] <phillip> wiki down?
[14:24] <acidrain_> expunge, no. it was monolight + firefox
[14:24] <TurkerTunali> should i use some boot parameters?
[14:24] <expunge> acidrain_: monolight or moonlight?
[14:24] <expunge> phillip: try google's cache
[14:24] <acidrain_> "monolight"
[14:25] <expunge> acidrain_: mmm, never heard of it
[14:25] <expunge> I think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_%28runtime%29 but that doesn't really help with netflix IME
[14:25]  * expunge shrugs
[14:26] <phillip> thanks expunge good idea
[14:26] <expunge> TurkerTunali: might check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate#Hibernate_Disabled_by_Default
[14:26] <acidrain_> updating KDE as we speak
[14:26] <acidrain_> :s
[14:26] <acidrain_> scared
[14:27] <expunge> acidrain_: don't worry, the worst that can happen is your computer dies and you have to go outside and enjoy life as nature intended =)
[14:27] <expunge> not so bad, right?
[14:27] <_unreal_> twilight zone doo DOO doo doo DOO doo doo
[14:28] <TurkerTunali> expunge: thanks, checking
[14:28] <_unreal_> heh and its only 90 degrees out side here
[14:29] <nonconvergent> If anyone can help me, we just setup svn (actually migrated to a new image) with dav on an apache2 server successfully, but I now I'm trying to figure out how to get some locale maven stuff setup as a virtual host on there too.  I added it to virtual host in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but I get a forbidden when I try access that page.
[14:29] <nonconvergent> I don't really know what a virtual host is, so there's that.  Nor did I setup the maven directories.  I'm just told that they worked on the last one, so they should work on this one.
[14:29] <TurkerTunali> expunge: It says "If the hibernate test works ...." but it doesn't. sudo pm-hibernate does nothing
[14:30] <expunge> TurkerTunali: doesn't suggest a course of action?
[14:31] <acidrain_> lol. there is about 100 something packages related to KDE that i had uninstalled. what do i gotta do to make them not show up in the software update tool?
[14:32] <expunge> why would you want that
[14:32] <raub> I would think if they were uninstalled yum won't try to install thema gain
[14:32] <acidrain_> so when im reviewing the description of new packages. i dont have to scroll 2miles to see what one package is
[14:32] <pbx> nonconvergent, have you asked in #httpd?
[14:33] <nonconvergent> pbx: No.
[14:33] <expunge> acidrain_: why not just install them?
[14:33] <acidrain_> like... akregator, dolphin, gwenview, kaddressbook, nepomuk backup, knetattach, kfontview
[14:33] <acidrain_> + about 90 more
[14:34] <acidrain_> expunge, its like bloatware that comes with android. :/
[14:34] <acidrain_> default ubuntu tools work fine
[14:34] <expunge> mmm
[14:34] <expunge> you might want to get rid of kubuntu-desktop, then
[14:34] <acidrain_> but i like the look :(
[14:34] <expunge> or whatever KDE metapackage you have installed
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !yum | raub
[14:34] <expunge> just the metapackage
[14:35] <acidrain_> !metapackage
[14:35] <acidrain_> lol. i just installed this
[14:35] <acidrain_> it was part of the upgrade
[14:35] <expunge> 'this'?
[14:35] <odin> hi
[14:35] <acidrain_> i just installed the metapackage to upgrade to new KDE
[14:36] <expunge> well, you needn't have =)
[14:36] <expunge> odin: hello
[14:36] <expunge> odin: today is your day
[14:36] <odin> I have physical access to a machine, that had ubuntu isntalled, but my password doesn't work anymore, how can I gain access?
[14:36] <odin> expunge, horrible
[14:36] <expunge> odin: Wednesday, I mean =P
[14:36] <sec0815> Hi. Is there a way to configure grub2 that way,  only interactive editing of boot menues is disabled? Superuser force a password for every menu item, until it is declared unrestrictive, what makes it editable again. It is not possible to declare all user for the "--users" option.
[14:36] <expunge> odin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[14:36] <raub> odin: single user mode and then change pw? Or is it network pw?
[14:37] <expunge> sec0815: only, as opposed to?
[14:37] <odin> raub, single user
[14:39] <sec0815> expunge -- opposed to every item is locked for selection. User should be able to boot the machine, but not being able to edit an menu entry. It was quiet easy with ubuntu 12.04. (Just trying ubu 14.04).
[14:39] <raub> odin: if the machine can be rebooted, go to recover/single user mode as expunge suggested. If you can't, is there anybody else that can log in and then change your pw? I assume local accounts, right?
[14:40] <expunge> sec0815: mmm, you might just ask #grub, then
[14:40] <sec0815> expunge, ok. will have a try.
[14:40] <gansteed>  can't display ?
[14:40] <gansteed> what's the matter ?
[14:43] <ozzy_> is it default channels?
[14:44] <expunge> ozzy_: hrmm?
[14:44] <nobody18288181> what is the software that searchs ubuntu repositories? I forgot the name
[14:44] <expunge> nobody18288181: apt-cache search foo
[14:44] <iptable> nobody18288181, apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude
[14:44] <acidrain_> lol
[14:44] <nobody18288181> sorry, i mean third party repos
[14:45] <acidrain_> seems like everytime i install an update in KDE software updates. there is more updates
[14:45] <user123321> sorry my internet was reset, did anyone say anything related to my system crash after I logged out?
[14:45] <iptable> nobody18288181, uhm, add the repos to sources.list, apt-get update; apt-cache search
[14:45] <nobody18288181> it's an additional package that searches through apt repositories that isn't installed by default (it's not apt-N)
[14:45] <expunge> apt-cache search search | egrep -i apt
[14:45] <acidrain_> can anyone tell me how to remove the kde metapackage now?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | acidrain_
[14:46] <iptable> nobody18288181, never heard of it
[14:46] <acidrain_> sudo apt-remove-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports -y  ???
[14:46] <expunge> cfhowlett: does that remove the package and not the deps?
[14:47] <acidrain_> cfhowlett, those commands look like they should do more than just remove the metapackage
[14:47] <acidrain_> perhaps thats not what i want. i want to remove the ppa
[14:47] <nobody18288181> it's a gui app that searches through all ppa's on launchpad
[14:47] <nobody18288181> makes it easy to add a third party repo without knowing what it is
[14:47] <expunge> nobody18288181: apt-cache search launchpad ? =)
[14:47] <cfhowlett> expunge, only the first one is a comman. pureubuntu tells how to restore to your pre-kde install status
[14:47] <expunge> he just wants to remove the meta package
[14:48] <cfhowlett> acidrain_, but I had no idea you were mucking with PPA so disregard
[14:48] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[14:48] <nobody18288181> here it is
[14:48] <nobody18288181> for anyone curious
[14:48] <nobody18288181> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/y-ppa-manager-004-released-with-new.html
[14:48] <iptable> nobody18288181, you mean "y ppa"?
[14:48] <expunge> nobody18288181: what's it called?
[14:48] <iptable> oh
[14:49] <nobody18288181> ye
[14:49] <iptable> yes, y ppa manager, it's not in the default ubuntu repos though and I would be scared to search ppas and add them like that.
[14:49] <nobody18288181> yolo, never had issue tbh
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !ppa-purge | acidrain_
[14:50] <acidrain_> Backports of new versions of KDE Platform, Plasma and Applcations as well as major KDE apps for Kubuntu.
[14:50] <acidrain_> man what does that mean? i dont want to remove all of the KDE apps
[14:50] <Tots> For xfce4, what Xauthority do I use for the login screen so my vnc can hook into the XSession?
[14:51] <acidrain_> brb. restarting kde
[14:51] <minotaur_> hi all
[14:51] <minotaur_> my compiz doesn't show the title bar, help...
[14:51] <acidrain_> wtf. kdm command not found
[14:51] <acidrain_> :/
[14:53] <TurkerTunali> hello guys, now I can hibernate my computer with "pm-hibernate". I've just use "echo disk > /sys/power/state" command to hibernate my computer and now "pm-hibernate" working as expected
[14:53] <TurkerTunali> I've used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[14:55] <expunge> TurkerTunali: well done
[14:55] <expunge> minotaur_: can you move windows?
[14:56] <phat4life_> what are some alternatives to samba. I have ubuntu 14.04.1 and samba is causing crashes.  I just need to be able to access files from my mac on the network
[14:56] <expunge> phat4life_: sshfs
[14:56] <superkuh> NFS?
[14:56] <ddv> phat4life_: maybe you should investigate why it is crashing
[14:56] <phat4life_> ddv: fresh install of ubuntu
[14:57] <iptable> phat4life_, how are you accessing the samba shares? using GUI?
[14:57] <phat4life_> iptable: yeah
[14:57] <phat4life_> i want to be able to use a GUI
[14:57] <iptable> phat4life_, and how are you sharing on the mac?
[14:57] <phat4life_> iptable just connecting the smb://
[14:57] <phat4life_> i am not sharing anything on the mac
[14:58] <iptable> phat4life_, uhm, so how are you accessing files from the mac if you are not sharing anything on it?
[14:58] <phat4life_> iptable: i setup a samba account to read and write my /media/user directory
[14:58] <phat4life_> i didn’t configure anything on my mac
[14:59] <kulhas> hi, after upgrading my ubuntu server I get this error when trying to install php5 http://pastebin.com/7qA864kc
[14:59] <odin> thanks guys, got in
[14:59] <phat4life_> i connect via finder smb:/192.168.1.102 or whatever the lan address is
[14:59] <iptable> phat4life_, so you want to access linux files on mac or vice versa? I don't get it. you said you need to be able to access files from mac on the network. I'm guessing you want to access files from mac to ubuntu.
[15:00] <iptable> phat4life_, OR do you mean you installed ubuntu on a mac and you want to access files from the network on that ubuntu that's installed on the mac?
[15:00] <phat4life_> iptable: i installed ubuntu on my desktop
[15:00] <iptable> phat4life_, so what's mac got to do with it?
[15:00] <phat4life_> iptable: i want to use the ubuntu box as a file storage server where i can read and write files on my mac
[15:01] <phat4life_> iptable: so like as if the ubuntu box was an external hard drive for my mac
[15:01] <iptable> phat4life_, so the statement "I just need to be able to access files from my mac on the network" is totally wrong
[15:01] <phat4life_> semantics sorry it wasn’t clear
[15:01] <iptable> phat4life_, so you want to be able to access files using samba that are shared by the ubuntu box
[15:01] <phat4life_> correct but not samba
[15:02] <iptable> phat4life_, but that's what you are doing, that's now crashing, right? sharing on ubuntu, using GUI on that ubuntu and accessing somewhere else?
[15:02] <odin> how can I check if a linux box is auto upgrading?
[15:02] <iptable> phat4life_, and then that ubuntu that's sharing is crashing? define "crashing"
[15:02] <somsip> odin: /var/log/unattended-upgrades/*.log (or similar)
[15:03] <iptable> odin, dpkg -l |grep unattended-upgrades
[15:04] <odin> samsip doesn't exist
[15:04] <odin> iptable: no output
[15:04] <iptable> odin, then it doesn't do auto updates
[15:04] <somsip> odin: so two negatives. It's telling you something...
[15:04] <odin> cool, weird though
[15:04] <iptable> odin, to do them, it would need the package
[15:04] <odin> I did an update upgrade
[15:04] <iptable> odin, "update upgrade" no such command
[15:04] <odin> and it only wants to update 42 packages and 34 mb
[15:05] <odin> seems strange, considering this PC was off for about a year and has Ubuntu 10.04 on it
[15:05] <iptable> odin, so why is that bad?
[15:05] <AcidRain2012> expunge: good gonig man
[15:05] <odin> iptable, I meant apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;
[15:05] <AcidRain2012> expunge: "if the package manage allows it. its safe"
[15:05] <AcidRain2012> lol
[15:05] <iptable> odin, 10.04 desktop is out of support and server only receives security updates, that's why
[15:05] <odin> iptable, because that means updates were installed, and now the system is broken
[15:05] <iptable> odin, 10.04 desktop is out of support and server only receives security updates, that's why
[15:05] <odin> specifically, if I enable the second nic (bios) then it fails to boot (doesn't boot anything, not from disk or USB)
[15:06] <odin> iptable, ok, that makes sense then
[15:06] <phat4life_> iptable: I don’t have the error handy i am at work, but the samba errors were  right after i installed ubuntu 14.04, fresh install
[15:06] <odin> now I just have to figure out why I can't enable that second nic
[15:06] <iptable> odin, upgrade to 14.04 if you acn.
[15:06] <expunge> AcidRain2012: hrmm?
[15:06] <phat4life_> iptable: like before i installed anything
[15:06] <AcidRain2012> KDE wont load no more
[15:06] <iptable> odin, and after upgrade, THEN figure out why (if) it still doesn't work
[15:06] <odin> iptable, I am not allowed to
[15:06] <AcidRain2012> it loads into a blank desktop with nothing else but a background image.
[15:06] <AcidRain2012> gnome2 loaded at first
[15:06] <odin> iptable, I have begged the bosses and explained to them the dangers of running 10.04, but I am just a slave
[15:07] <odin> I don't get to make dicisions
[15:07] <iptable> phat4life_, so it didn't crash as opposed to what you said, you received errors and can't quote them...
[15:07] <expunge> AcidRain2012: what does? What are you after?
[15:07] <AcidRain2012> i was after a stable KDE
[15:07] <AcidRain2012> now i have no KDE :(
[15:07] <iptable> phat4life_, come back once you have the box/errors at hand and we can try to figure out WHY it's producing the errors. did you read the error, what did it even suggest?
[15:08] <AcidRain2012> expunge: this is fine though. now i just wish to uninstall KDe completely and use gnome2
[15:08] <expunge> AcidRain2012: what's stopping you?
[15:08] <iptable> odin, uhm, bosses meetings and "out of support, vulnerable and WILL be hacked and you will loose all business and be jobless" statement I'm guessing was not pressed by yourself?
[15:08] <AcidRain2012> lol. knowing what command will uninstall kde
[15:08] <iptable> odin, if you are a slave of your work, wrong attitude or wrong job
[15:08] <odin> iptable, it was
[15:08] <odin> iptable, wrong job
[15:08] <iptable> odin, then you work for idiots. why are they making the decision?
[15:08] <odin> iptable, but sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do to put food on the table
[15:08] <AcidRain2012> kubuntu-desktop looks like more than just KDE
[15:08] <minotaur_> expunge, yes I can move windows :)
[15:08] <iptable> odin, and have you not another box to migrate between? why do you need second NIC anyways?
[15:09] <ikonia> kubuntu-desktop is kde
[15:09] <odin> iptable, this box is multihomed (on two different networks)
[15:09] <ikonia> it's a metapackage that pulls in kde, dependencies and the kubuntu specific packags/configurations
[15:09] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i think kubuntu-desktop installed a safe gnome2 as a fallback. and i dont want to remove it
[15:09] <iptable> odin, so you don't have vlans either on your network?
[15:09] <odin> iptable, I do
[15:09] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I don't think it did
[15:09] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I'd be very surprised if it did
[15:10] <odin> iptable, I have a fully isolated VLAN, hence the need for the second nic
[15:10] <iptable> odin, so why do you need another NIC? just put both VLANs on that port for the NIC and configure your VLAN interfaces on the 1 nic
[15:10] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: well i have it. and im not sure how i got it. then again. i havent tampered with my system in an extremely long time
[15:10] <odin> iptable, what?
[15:10] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: is this a kubuntu install, or an ubuntu install with kubuntu-desktop
[15:10] <iptable> odin, no, a NIC can be on multiple vlans. and the port can be configured to be a trunk port for multiple vlans
[15:10] <AcidRain2012> its a ubuntu 12.10 install with kubuntu-desktop
[15:10] <odin> iptable, I have so no clue htf that works
[15:10] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so thats where gnome came from
[15:11] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: gnome is part of the ubuntu innstall
[15:11] <ikonia> install
[15:11] <AcidRain2012> rly?
[15:11] <odin> iptable, so ur telling me I can make one physical interface appear as two in linux?
[15:11] <ikonia> yes
[15:11] <AcidRain2012> i installed KDE cause i thought that ubuntu used unity now
[15:11] <AcidRain2012> and unity is just horrible
[15:11] <iptable> odin, let's say you want vlans 100 and 200 for that box. on the switch you set the port as trunk port and tag vlans 100 and 200 on it. on the ubuntu box you configure eth0.100 interface and eth0.200 interface. this creates 2 interfaces using 1 physical interface, one for vlan100 one for 200
[15:11] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: unity is based on a lot of gnome libraries
[15:11] <qwerkus> hello. Can someone point me to a working howto on a clean xorg reinstall (complete purge + nvidia removal + reinstall) in 14.04 ? Thanks a lot.
[15:12] <odin> iptable, wow, I understand the switch side but fuck, ubuntu can do that
[15:12] <iptable> odin, you can make one interface appear as 2 on the same network even, without even having vlans, just using aliases
[15:12] <iptable> odin, no swearing please
[15:12] <iptable> odin, googling "ubuntu 10.04 vlan howto" returns nice examples and tutorials
[15:13] <odin> fack, thanks so much iptable
[15:13] <odin> also... approrpriate name :D
[15:13] <iptable> odin, here is one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan, here is another: http://www.microhowto.info/howto/configure_an_ethernet_interface_as_a_vlan_trunk_on_debian.html
[15:13] <iptable> odin, cheers :) and no problem.
[15:14] <AcidRain2012> ok. what i need to do now. if i wish to use KDE. is completely uninstall KDE and all of its packages. and reinstall
[15:14] <MagicSpud> hello I ve been using storybook 4.0.9 for a while and now I notice the copywrite is obsolete from 2012. does that mean I cant go pro? I would like the complete version of the program
[15:14] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why would you uninstall kde if you want to use kde
[15:15] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: becasue its still loading a desktop ONLY. nothing else
[15:15] <AcidRain2012> i cant get back to regular gnome2
[15:15] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what desktop do you want to actually use ?
[15:16] <AcidRain2012> kde is very nice. i wish to go with that. but if it will further damage my system. i wish to use gnome2
[15:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: gnoem2 doesn't exist
[15:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: no supported distro is using gnome 2
[15:16] <AcidRain2012> i was just looking at it man :/
[15:16] <iptable> odin, if you are not doing layer 2 separation but only have 2 separate subnets on same vlan, you can even do that without vlans, eth0:1 and eth0:2 can be created and assigned IPs. It's called interface alias. alternatively, you can create bridge interfaces that are connected to just your eth0, call them br0 and br1 and give them separate IPs (that's also assuming your network has no vlans)
[15:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ubuntu uses unity, kubuntu uses kde, xbuntu users xfce
[15:17] <odin> iptable, I am doing layer 2 seperation on the switch
[15:17] <iptable> odin, so depending on your scenario, use either aliases/bridge if you are not using vlans, or configure vlans with eth0.VLANID etc if using vlans
[15:17] <AcidRain2012> when i restarted my comp after kde updates. it booted into gnome2. i hit logout. my options where: unity 2d, unity 3d, gnome2, plasma desktop
[15:17] <iptable> odin, my linux router has got 7 vlans configured, including lab vlan etc. it definitely works ;)
[15:17] <odin> iptable, I am playing with the vlan as eth0.vlandid
[15:17] <AcidRain2012> i chose plasma desktop. now im stuck with ONLY  a desktop
[15:17] <odin> so the eth0. specifies the physical interface, right?
[15:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: gnome2 is not in supported disitros
[15:18] <ikonia> distros
[15:18] <iptable> odin, cool. have fun. PM me if you get stuck. I am here most of the time during UK business hours
[15:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: there are various packages such as "fallback" which was changed to something else in 14.04 (can't remember the name)
[15:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your best realistic bet is to pick a currently supported desktop you like - and install a supported distro with it and get used to use it
[15:18] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i believe youl .but i do have it. and my preferences are KDE > gnome2 > switch back to windows xp
[15:18] <iptable> odin, yes, eth0 is physical. the ".100, .200" specify vlans. the ":1 :2 etc" specify aliases, and brXX are bridge interfaces
[15:19] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I suspect you have either gnome-fallback or gnome2 from some other repo
[15:19] <odin> iptable, thanks alot for the help
[15:19] <iptable> odin, you can have br0.100 or eth0.100 or bond0.100 (for bond interfaces, bond) and these will be on vlan 100
[15:19] <iptable> odin, no probs
[15:20] <AcidRain2012> can anyone tell me if hitting the power button 1 time for a split second will log me out of a DE?
[15:20] <AcidRain2012> i have to get to a terminal
[15:20] <ikonia> ctrl+alt+F1/2/3/4/5
[15:20] <iptable> AcidRain2012, if you configured it to do so, yes. otherwise, no
[15:20] <ikonia> change to a VT
[15:20] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: ok, brb. imma try that
[15:20] <iptable> AcidRain2012, CTRL ... oh. what ikonia said ;)
[15:21] <iptable> oooh, using VT-d successfully?
[15:21] <iptable> damn, my dell has a bios bug and doesn't reserve shadow GTT so I can't do it :/
[15:22] <AcidRain2012> ok. ive made it to a terminal
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> for some reason, kdm is no longer a command
[15:23] <ikonia> no it doesn't use kdm as a window manager any more
[15:23] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what are you doing ??
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> so i cannot load kde. my plan is to make it to the gnome2 or unity shell as of now. then fix the issues.
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> right now im looking at ONLY a terminal window
[15:23] <AcidRain2012> ctrl+alt+f1 helped me here
[15:23] <tata> I changed video card, do I must install ubuntu again ?(older ubuntu 10.4)
[15:23] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what are you trying to change/fix
[15:24] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i wish to fix KDE it work
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | tata, you might need to reconfigure graphics
[15:24] <cfhowlett> tata, also ... 10.04?  upgrade!  14.04
[15:24] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok - so how are you going to fix kde ?
[15:24] <AcidRain2012> main goal: reinstall KDE and ALL of its packages from scratch. clean install. Plan B: just use gnome2. Plan C: (hopefully we dont make it this far), use winxp
[15:24] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what's your plan/approach
[15:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why are you going to re-install the kde packages
[15:25] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: because, kde is broken...
[15:25] <AcidRain2012> how else would i fix it?
[15:25] <ikonia>  AcidRain2012 that doesn't mean re-install the packages
[15:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you're using 12.10 correct ?
[15:25] <AcidRain2012> yes.
[15:25] <user123321> Is upgrading the linux kernel to a newer version than the official ubuntu released advisable?
[15:25] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok - why not take this oppertunity to install kubuntu 14.04
[15:25] <user123321> release*
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> because i have too much stuff to loose
[15:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you get onto a supported version - the latest kde and you get a working kde install
[15:26] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012, this ^^^ 14.04 lubuntu!
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> and i have a bad experience with the "upgrade" button
[15:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: don't upgrade
[15:26] <ikonia> do a clean install
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> :(
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> i refuse
[15:26] <ikonia> why ?
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i have 5yrs of work on this computer.
[15:26] <ikonia> what's the issue ?
[15:26] <ikonia> back it up
[15:26] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you should be backing it up anyway I assume
[15:26] <AcidRain2012> if kde will just work. or i can get to gnome2, ill be extremely happy
[15:26] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012, bad upgrade?  image how sad you'll be when you a security violation since you no longer get security updates.
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> i have like 20 servers man. its too much configuration
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> i use some packages that were hard to get working on ubuntu 12
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> like icecast
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> ices2
[15:27] <AcidRain2012> just a small example
[15:28] <siwica> I just installed Passenger which is a Ruby server. I was instructed to create "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list" and to secure it via:
[15:28] <siwica> sudo chown root: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list
[15:28] <siwica> sudo chmod 600 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list
[15:28] <siwica> sudo apt-get update
[15:28] <siwica> Now I am getting the error:
[15:28] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your best bet is to install 14.04 clean - get a clean machine restore your work
[15:28] <tata> ok, thank you
[15:28] <cfhowlett> AcidRain2012, so you have servers that are unsecured?  gotta say, you might be a cool guy, but I wouldn't hire you.  you are knowingly running unsupported systems!
[15:28] <siwica> E:Opening /etc/apt/sources.list.d/passenger.list -ifstream::ifstream (13: Permission denied)
[15:28] <siwica> why is that?
[15:29] <somsip> siwica: try chmod 644 - that's what mine are in there
[15:29] <AcidRain2012> these servers arent rly for public use
[15:29] <AcidRain2012> they are for me
[15:29] <AcidRain2012> and i would prefer not to spend another month installing them.
[15:29] <Tots> What the command to change ownership of a directory and all files?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Tots, chmod
[15:30] <somsip> Tots: chown -R {user} {dir}
[15:30] <somsip> Tots: thats "all files and dirs recursively"
[15:30] <AcidRain2012> how to start unity from terminal?
[15:30] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: all the more reason to go onto a long term suport release like 14.04 with 5 years of support
[15:30] <tata> I dont want to upgrade 10.4, because, unity desktop is not for me
[15:30] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i guess i will do an upgrade. but first. i have to backup
[15:30] <cfhowlett> tata, lubuntu, xubuntu kubuntu, ubuntu-gnome ... NONE of those run unity
[15:30] <jim_> hello,i have ubuntu with gnome installed.....64 bit the lastest lts release..so when i had unity i had installed the amd radeon drivers and they worked fine..but when i installed gnome (because i didnt liked unity)and after trying installing the ati adrivers they didnt work...no effects on compiz either!help!
[15:30] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't, you already have X working
[15:30] <running_rabbit07> tata, there is a flashback gnome in ubuntu 14.04
[15:30] <AcidRain2012> getting to a user interface is needed
[15:30] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: do not do an upgrade
[15:31] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your system is not in a good state
[15:31] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: getting to a user interface is not needed to backup / restore
[15:31] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: i mean ill do a cd fresh install of 14
[15:31] <AcidRain2012> x is not working
[15:31] <tata> ok
[15:31] <ikonia> you have X already running
[15:31] <AcidRain2012> im looking at a terminal window only. and says x failed to initialize
[15:31] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: X is working
[15:31] <ikonia> your desktop is not working
[15:31] <ikonia> thats not what you said
[15:31] <ikonia> you said the desktop was failing to load
[15:32] <ikonia> that means X11 is running, you just didn't get KDE
[15:32] <siwica> somsip: thanks, I'll try that
[15:32] <sky_man> hi
[15:32] <running_rabbit07> !hi | sky_man
[15:33] <LeandroR_> join #pootle
[15:34] <LeandroR_> \join #pootle
[15:35] <goldenfox> o.o
[15:36] <AcidRain2012> how do i launch unity from terminal?
[15:40] <teward> AcidRain2012, `sudo unity &` I think, forks it into the background
[15:41] <teward> AcidRain2012, but unless you really need to do this, there's no need to really run Unity from terminall
[15:45] <pbx> when i right-click on an image in Files, it offers firefox but not chrome for viewing. how do i change that?
[15:46] <espadrine1> Hi, My google skills have failed me, anyone know if theres a site that details differences between ubuntu and debian? (For example default installed packages)
[15:47] <AcidRain2012> can someone please just tell me how to start unity from terminal?
[15:47] <AcidRain2012> sudo serivce gnome-shell start doesnt work
[15:47] <AcidRain2012> says package not installed
[15:48] <pbx> AcidRain2012, what WM/DE is running?
[15:48] <AcidRain2012> lightdm
[15:48] <AcidRain2012> i cannot use sudo service lightdm start. its loads a broken KDE
[15:49] <pbx> espadrine1, it's possible there are some answers for you here -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian
[15:51] <espadrine1> Thanks I'll take a look
[15:52] <jim_> so what d you guys recommend to do?
[15:52] <geirha> and unity should certainly NOT be run with sudo
[15:53] <AcidRain2012> geirha: i ONLY want it to work for now. i wish to upgrade to ubuntu 14
[15:53] <AcidRain2012> i want this damn terminal window to go away and get some gUI
[15:55] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: You can select the session to use in lightdm, if your KDE environment is broken, just select the unity session?
[15:55] <pussygladiator> hey, are there any packages on ubuntu for installer for wiping ubuntu and installing another OS over it?
[15:55] <netlar> I want to create my own help file for Ubuntu, where is a good place to start.  I want it to be viewed on the help system inside ubuntu
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> pussygladiator  boot from live dvd or usb, use gparted to delete ubuntu, install somdething else
[15:56] <pussygladiator> its a vps
[15:56] <geirha> AcidRain2012: well, sudo will just make things worse. Are you sure the ubuntu-desktop package is installed?
[15:56] <teward> pussygladiator, if it's a VPS then your VPS provider should be able to do it, contact them
[15:56] <pussygladiator> they said they wouldnt
[15:56] <pussygladiator> lol
[15:56] <pussygladiator> what a pain in the ass
[15:56] <pussygladiator> but they said I can do it myself
[15:57] <pussygladiator> but its a bitch
[15:57] <teward> pussygladiator, then you're out of luck.  please mind your language here, this is a family-friendly channel
[15:57] <teward> !language | pussygladiator
[15:57] <Ampelbein> pussygladiator: What vps provider is this?
[15:57] <pussygladiator> lol sorry
[15:57] <pussygladiator> its a $12 dedicated server from online.net
[15:58] <AcidRain2012> geirha: yes
[15:58] <AcidRain2012> geirha: how do i make lightdm load unity instead of kde?
[15:58] <pussygladiator> But how can I install an OS over ubuntu from the desktop?
[15:59]  * iptable considers changing nick to slashme
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  lightdm remembers your last choice
[15:59] <AcidRain2012> my last choice is kde
[15:59] <AcidRain2012> i want to switch it to unity
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  ok, then change it to unity/ubuntu
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> how?
[16:00] <root1> exit
[16:00] <Ampelbein> pussygladiator: You generally can't do this from a running install.
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  by clicking on the gnome symbol
[16:00] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: Is lightdm set to auto-login?
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: i dont have that
[16:00] <teward> pussygladiator, unless you have the ability to overwrite the OS from some kind of console interface or graphical web control interface you'd have to have physical access to the machine, there might be a control panel that can do that on their site.  but you generally can't do this from a running install like Ampelbein said
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> lightdm is indeed auto logging in
[16:00] <AlexPortable> Can I use unetbootin for cd's?
[16:00] <AlexPortable> instead of usb sticks
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> stopping that would help
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  did you you install kubuntu only?
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> i am using ubuntu
[16:00] <AcidRain2012> kubuntu-desktop is not installed. BUT, lightdm boots into kde
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  you lost me, is it ubuntu/unity or kubuntu/kde
[16:01] <alinmear> hey guys. i am currently using a dell laptop with a port replicator. how can i disable the automatic screen detection, when putting my worksation into the dock?
[16:01] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu/kde
[16:01] <AcidRain2012> lol
[16:01] <AcidRain2012> i am having some serious issues right now
[16:01] <xangua> AlexPortable: just burn as image, also ubuntu doesn't fit on a cd you need a dvd
[16:02] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: On the konsole, "sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf", put a "#" in front of the autologin-user* lines, then restart lightdm
[16:02] <alinmear> on kde there is the display-daemon, which can be easily disabled, but what is it on ubuntu with unity?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  how did kde get there?
[16:02] <AlexPortable> xangua: my current OS is not ubuntu. How can I burn it to cd?
[16:02] <xangua> burn iso as image AlexPortable
[16:02] <AlexPortable> xangua: what do you mean?
[16:02] <Ampelbein> AlexPortable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  how did you install ubuntu in the first place?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  ^^^^
[16:04] <AcidRain2012> Ampelbein: it worked!
[16:04] <AcidRain2012> thankjs!
[16:04] <Ampelbein> yw
[16:04] <AcidRain2012> im going to start downloading ubuntu 14 and backing up now
[16:04] <rgouveia> hello ... in 14.04 and also 14.10 after grub i get a black screen until some messages about swap appear then i get the graphical login. this is an acer laptop with intel gpu. any thoughts ?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> rgouveia  14.10 is not ready, any reason you are trying to boot it? support for 14.10 in #ubuntu+1
[16:06] <rgouveia> MonkeyDust: i thought i gave it a spin and help seeing it will be next release. so you recommend that i  head to ubuntu+1 ?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> rgouveia  for 14.10 yes
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> rgouveia  hint: use a virtual machine to test new releases
[16:07] <jbeez> any of you guys familiar with plymouth to show a boot splash in ubuntu?
[16:08] <rgouveia> MonkeyDust: it's more fun like this ;-) thx
[16:09] <AcidRain2012> i wish to backup the full filesystem EXCLUDING all external drives. how can i do this?
[16:10] <AcidRain2012> i wish to backup to /media/Server2/Backups/Full Backup/
[16:11] <iptable> tortib, why must I issue STARTTLS command first to email you
[16:11] <iptable> tortib, ?
[16:11] <tortib> iptable: wat
[16:11] <tortib> oh shit
[16:11] <tortib> one second
[16:12] <iptable> tortib, the rest of the world is accepting unencrypted email ;)
[16:12] <DaZ> unfortunately :v
[16:12] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: rsync -avz --exclude '/media/*' / /media/Server2/Backups/.... ?
[16:12] <tortib> iptable: hmmm it should work
[16:12] <jim_> is there any way to make the amd ati driver to work on gnome?
[16:12] <tortib> i can send from gmail to my domain without problems.
[16:12] <jim_> it worked on unity but it refuses to work on gnome
[16:12] <Ampelbein> AcidRain2012: "man rsync" so you can see what the options mean
[16:12] <AcidRain2012> Ampelbein: ill try that
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  disconnect/unmount the external drives
[16:14] <tortib> iptable: any idea how I can disable that on postfix? :\
[16:14] <iptable> tortib, testing agian. just wanted to say I remember about your request and will have it in 2-3 days, but it's still broken
[16:14] <iptable> tortib, see my PM
[16:15] <AcidRain2012> cache_alignment    : 64
[16:15] <AcidRain2012> does this mean 64 bit?
[16:18] <AlexPortable> AcidRain2012: 64 bit cache alignment? i thought cache was in MB not in bit
[16:19] <AcidRain2012> im trying to determine which versino of ubuntu 14 i need
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  sudo dmidecode --type 4 ... the last line
[16:21] <AcidRain2012> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[16:21] <AcidRain2012> so i need a 64bit ubuntu 14
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  sudo dmidecode --type 4
[16:21] <Tots> When I mount a harddrive with a specific name, do I have to eveery time, change the owner of that drive so people acn use it?
[16:22] <Tots> I did a mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd  and I'd like users to have access to it but chown -R username /mnt/hdd won't change owner
[16:22] <AcidRain2012> yep. 64 bit capable
[16:23] <zeorin> Hi all, I'm getting some weird DNS behaviour. I can't reach inc.com. It seems like my local dns implementation (which is still dnsmasq--I didn't change anything) is answering for it with 127.0.0.1
[16:23] <AcidRain2012> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso  this is what im getting
[16:23] <Tots> when I do verbose, it says things changed, but hwen I double check, they haven't
[16:24] <zeorin> First noticed it in the browser, and then I double-checked using dig
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  ubuntu.com/downloads
[16:25] <zeorin> there's no authority section in the response, though
[16:25]  * Seromania is now away: Momentan nicht erreichbar
[16:26] <AlexPortable> Sero|Away: why are you away?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !away > Sero|Away
[16:31] <rawrmonster> Is there a way in ubuntu to prioritize types of network traffic?
[16:34] <bazhang> !info wondershaper
[16:34] <Tots> How do I set permissions when mounting a partition? It keeps making root only have access to the partition e.o
[16:35] <wuschLOR1> I accidentially changed the rights to my / and now can't access the sudoers file. Upon restart the machine won't start up properly any more.
[16:36] <cn28h> Tots: what file system? you may be able to specify -o uid=<myuid>,gid=<mygid> to map it
[16:37] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: was it a recursive change?
[16:38] <AcidRain2012> now that is what im talking about damn it
[16:38] <AcidRain2012> doing a full backup of the whole system
[16:38] <AcidRain2012> cant mess that up
[16:38] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: What does recursive mean? It was by accidentaly hitting enter after sudo chown -hR [user] /
[16:39] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: whatever you do. dont reboot. i had done this one time
[16:39] <zeorin> that is recursive. Recursive means that it does it not only on the target, but also on the files and subfolders inside
[16:39] <AcidRain2012> there IS a way to restore permissions to the /
[16:39] <zeorin> yes, don't reboot
[16:40] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: too late. Wasn't smart.
[16:41] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: you rebooted and got back into the system?
[16:42] <wuschLOR1> acidrain2012: I rebooted and at the point where it should be showing me the login-screen it shows a black screen, mouse being cursor-like but I can't input anything.
[16:42] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: if you managed to get back into the system, you *could* still save it
[16:42] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: fail
[16:42] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: but it's a serious effort
[16:43] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: my personal advice is to remove that drive. install ubuntu on another drive. then recover what you need from that drive.
[16:43] <AcidRain2012> im no expert. but that will work
[16:43] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: AcidRain2012's advice is the easier way.
[16:44] <wuschLOR1> AcidRain2012: Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll do that then.
[16:44] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: i would imagine anything other than what i have suggested would require something like a 0day hack.
[16:44] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: If you can point me into the direction of how to recover it, that would be of great help. I know so little that I wouldn't even know what to search for...
[16:45] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: the other way is to create a new Ubuntu installation, try and remember which programs you had installed, install them, then run a script to discover for each file on the whole system what the permissions/ownerships were; then boot your old system with a liveCD, chroot into it's root env, and run the script in reverse to apply all the permissions again
[16:45] <zeorin> It's probably too much hassle, and imprecice
[16:46] <zeorin> look here for how to actually do that, if you're *very* brave https://superuser.com/questions/132891/how-to-reset-folder-permissions-to-their-default-in-ubuntu-9-10/356946#356946
[16:46] <wuschLOR1> zeorin: That does sound like I'd have too many chances to mess it up. Thanks for the help, anyway! I'll try AcidRain2012's approach.
[16:46] <AcidRain2012> zeorin: when i had messed up and recursively changed ownership of /. someone had provided me with a permissions file that contained every permission to every file on the system. at least enough to make it quickly recoverable long enough to backup what i needed and reinstall
[16:47] <AcidRain2012> regardless. i believe a reinstall is needed to avoid future issues. even if you got it working just 'ok'
[16:47] <zeorin> I think recursively messing up the permissions is like a rite of passage ;)
[16:47] <zeorin> We all do it--once--at some point
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> lol
[16:48] <wuschLOR1> AcidRain2012: So zeorin's aproach is only useful if I really need to recover more than my /home directory?
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> its what you have to do to be a normal linux user
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> wuschLOR1: both approaches are if you wish to recover everything that you wish
[16:48] <wuschLOR1> considering myself successfully hazed, then. Thanks ;)
[16:48] <zeorin> wuschLOR1: yes. If you only want to recover the data on your /home partition, just boot a liveCD, and back that data up, then reinstall from scratch
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> as long as you dont accidentally do a delete /, you should be ok
[16:49] <zeorin> I had this problem on a server *blushes*
[16:49] <nomic> where are the last updates list of updates held?
[16:49]  * AcidRain2012 hides face
[16:49] <AcidRain2012> im doing a 80gig backup of my / right now
[16:49] <Toaster_Strudel> I haven't done this sinec xorg.. My screen resolution is stuck at 640x480
[16:49] <zeorin> had to try it the hard way--worked, too. Occasionally got a message about sudoers ownership after, but they were easy fixes as they happened.
[16:50] <Toaster_Strudel> I dont see any options to change it.. Vbox guest addons are installed
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> nomic  /var/log/dpkg.log
[17:01] <AcidRain2012> oh sorry
[17:02] <AcidRain2012> i had said ealier it was monolight i was using for netflix. its actually pipelight
[17:02] <AcidRain2012> i see it now while doing a full system bsackup :D
[17:02] <cheeseboy> AcidRain2012, you can use html5 now
[17:02] <cheeseboy> no need sulverlight
[17:03] <Toaster_Strudel> Why am I stuck in 640x480?
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> yea ill get to that after this backup is done and ive installed ubuntu 14
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> though ubuntu is making me mad. i feel like they force an updated upon me after the EOL of every LTS release
[17:04] <AcidRain2012> i dont see why ubuntu doesnt just keep updating packages for security, rather than making a whole new release
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Toaster_Strudel  maybe you have to give more memory to your display
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  what you want is a rolling release, then
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  that's been discussed and not approved
[17:05] <Toaster_Strudel> MonkeyDust: I'll try it out thanks
[17:05] <wuschLOR1> I'm running Kubuntu from a live stick in order to backup my /home partition. However, I can access neither the /home/user nor my backup partition on an external drive. It coould be they're all encrypted. Any hints on how to achieve a backup?
[17:07] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust: a rolling release? where do i get such hax from?
[17:08] <FSMaxB> Hi. Can anyone tell me the boot parameter to set the keyboard layout for Ubuntu livecds? ( not pressing F3 and selecting it, I need the actual parameter )
[17:08] <schhab> hey all
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  start here http://askubuntu.com/questions/412872/rolling-release-in-ubuntu
[17:09] <schhab> need help with Nvidia display drivers
[17:09] <AcidRain2012> lmao
[17:09] <AcidRain2012> the answer is simply: "No."
[17:10] <FSMaxB> Does anyone now the livecd bootparameter for setting the keyboard layout?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  ow you know you're not the first to ask
[17:15] <schhab> any clue on how to reset the display properties, i cant get to desktop
[17:18] <Boscop_> hi. I upgraded ubuntu to 14.04 but now i can't boot anymore. it says pcmcia error
[17:18] <Tots> If I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04 with xfce4, how can I auto-login as a certain user?
[17:19] <Boscop_> http://www.mirari.fr/Edi3.jpg
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> Boscop_  a pcmcia card is old technology, didnt know it still existed
[17:20] <tsar> Hi! I've got a problem with gamepad and wheel. I might have broken something and now even evtest doesn't see them, and I can't use them in games. How can I dig into this problem?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> tsar  how is that ubuntu related?
[17:22] <tsar> MonkeyD, well, it's a problem I've encountered in Ubuntu.
[17:22] <alanjf> What is the safest way to clear out entries in the status file that have "Status: purge ok not-installed" ? Is it ok to manaually edit them out since they represent packages that were unistalled ?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> alanjf  try    sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> alanjf  first do   sudo aptitude search '~c'
[17:24] <alanjf> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll try that.
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> alanjf  something else i picked up here... dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[17:30] <alanjf> MonkeyDust: Isn't dpkg -P what leaves those entries in status in the first place?
[17:31] <hunkisch> hi guys..
[17:31] <decwrl> Anyone have any experience setting up kernel dumps (kdump-tools)?  I'm trying to set this up on 14.04.  Works fine in a VM, doesn't work on an HP Proliant DL360G8.
[17:32] <samthewildone> question, just shot a video on my phone how do I flip the video in vlc ?
[17:32] <hunkisch> anyone know how to get xcode on ubuntu?
[17:32] <samthewildone> I know I can flip images but what about videos ?
[17:32] <DJones> [A[B
[17:33] <samthewildone> never mind found it
[17:44] <zero_coder> hi, after using wine to play games. my screen resolution changed to something else
[17:45] <zero_coder> how can i reset it back
[17:47] <labsin> zero_coder, In settings > screen. I don't know how to do it automaticly
[17:49] <sputnik13> hi, running 12.04.4 LTS with trusty HWE, for some reason my kernel is being held back to 3.13.0.32.28
[17:50] <sputnik13> I need to update to 3.13.0.35.30 or later
[17:50] <sputnik13> apt-cache policy says 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for 3.13.0.35.30
[17:50] <sputnik13> anyone know how to resolve this?
[17:51] <WeiJunLi> can someone help me with this error - http://bpaste.net/show/a84011a39487     (when i run an .exe file)
[17:52] <RoBo_V> guys im trying to install ubuntu on 54GB (Primary) alongside windows 8. I think 50GB is enough right? Secondly, it asking for bootloader instlaation - drive has to be same where winods loader is located ?
[17:52] <RoBo_V> windows*
[17:53] <pbx> WeiJunLi, what .exe file? Has it ever worked?
[17:54] <WeiJunLi> pbx: i am trying to run a program, it is works in windows
[17:54] <WeiJunLi> its the first time i am trying to run it in ubuntu
[17:54] <sputnik13> ugh bleh, nevermind, figured it out
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> sputnik13  try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-trusty
[17:55] <pbx> WeiJunLi, were you led to believe it would run under ubuntu? what kind of preparation did you do?
[17:55] <sakamop> RoBo_V: Well, Ubuntu would run fine on 6 GB but you'd need to be carefuly about what you downloaded. I recommen anything over 16 GB. I'm using a chromebook with ubuntu and a 16 GB SSD. It's fine.
[17:55] <sputnik13> MonkeyDust: it ended up being apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:55] <WeiJunLi> pbx: well I dont know... I have other exe files running without problems why this cant work?
[17:57] <pbx> WeiJunLi, i have no idea what the code is so i have no idea what its chances of working are.  i think your best bet is to look for someone else who has run this specific executable under ubuntu.
[17:58] <WeiJunLi> pbx: you cant identify the problem by seeing the error?
[17:58] <cpined> Hello, I used gparted to delete my windows OS, leaving only my Ubuntu OS.  How can I claim that 15 gigs to Ubuntu?  I don't want it as a separate volume.
[17:59] <pbx> WeiJunLi, i don't know anything about windows.   i think you are going to need to take a more active role in researching how/whether this program can run on ubuntu.  try searching for information about this specific program
[17:59] <running_rabbit07> WeiJunLi, if you are using Wine to run your exe, then you may find better help at #wine
[17:59] <pbx> and yeah, what the rabbit said :)
[18:00] <WeiJunLi> running_rabbit07: you mean #winehq - thats the most dead channel i have ever seen
[18:01] <running_rabbit07> The folks there helped me the other day. WeiJunLi
[18:02] <RoBo_V> sakamop: ok thanks
[18:02] <running_rabbit07> Personally, if you have a bunch of MS software you need to run and can't find a linux alternative, then maybe Windows is the way to go. WeiJunLi
[18:06] <sakamop> WeiJunLi: Which program is this? Someone else might have documented the issue.
[18:14] <qwerkus> Given all the random freeze I experienced, I decided to do a clean reinstall to try to figure out the problem. Turns out I can't even do this: the (gui) installation script keeps crashing. Is there a way to install via liveCD in txt mode ?
[18:15] <darksis> Hello i need please help about error i get how i can fix this please
[18:15] <darksis>  libpq++.h
[18:15] <pbx> darksis, use a pastebin to share the error text
[18:15] <darksis> checking for libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[18:16] <darksis> when i try configure something i get this message
[18:16] <pbx> and include context.  what specifically were you trying to do? share the terminal session via pastebin, including your commands and the resulting errors
[18:16] <darksis> ok but how i fix this?
[18:17] <darksis> something command?
[18:17] <pbx> darksis, i'm not holding any secret information, i'm trying to help you ask a question that will get good answers
[18:18] <darksis> ok
[18:18] <darksis> i try run something and i get error everytime
[18:19] <darksis> i happy to know how i can fix this please
[18:20] <darksis> pbx?
[18:21] <kbennett4> what has happened to package manager
[18:21] <RoBo_V> Guys, swap space neccessary, have 8GB ram ?
[18:21] <pbx> darksis, read what i wrote.  use a pastebin to give us a complete copy of the terminal session, including what command you ran and what errors resulted.  give lots of context. then wait.
[18:21] <pbx> kbennett4, please be more specific
[18:21] <Lunario> how can I configure my ubuntu ssh server to use / as a starting directory when I access it from other clients, instead of using /home/username ?
[18:22] <akis> hi, please take a look at my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/8225628/
[18:22] <kbennett4> none of software in it appeare y more
[18:24] <djdr1988> anyone here familiar with wine? Or do I need to go to another channel?
[18:25] <llutz> Lunario: you could add "cd /"  to ~/.bashrc  (whyever you want that)
[18:25] <phylock> djdr1988 - its possible, ask away
[18:26] <djdr1988> i just installed wine, I am new to all of this linux stuff, I tried doing a web search on how to use it, but I only found help on older version of wine. I can't figure out how to Install a program through it,I have added a program to wine, but it doesnt run installer or store it
[18:26] <Lunario> llutz: Thanks. But at which part of the .bashrc file do I have to add cd /?
[18:27] <llutz> Lunario: at the end
[18:27] <Lunario> Ok, will try
[18:27] <darksis> pbx
[18:27] <darksis> take
[18:27] <darksis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8225661/
[18:27] <blackangelpr> djdr1988, Try play on linux  more easy to start with
[18:27] <blackangelpr> djdr1988, http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[18:28] <djdr1988> does it do the same as wine?
[18:28] <bprompt> RoBo_V:     depends on what you;d be running.. I have 6gbs... and have a 1.2gbs swap file, but likely I may not use it most of the time.... however if say running vbox or some other app that may require more resources... then a swap file can come in handy
[18:28] <phylock> djdr1988 - its a wine frontend
[18:28] <blackangelpr> djdr1988,  yes more easy with a nice gui
[18:28] <djdr1988> ok. I will give it a try. Thanks guys
[18:28] <pbx> darksis, read what i wrote. you didn't include what command you ran.  you didn't give any information about what you are trying to do.
[18:28] <RoBo_V> bprompt: ty, I will give it 2GB
[18:29] <phylock> djdr1988 - else take a look at www.winehq.org, https://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/running-wine
[18:29] <Lunario> llutz: Do I have to restart the machine afterwards?
[18:30] <Lunario> because so far nothing has changed
[18:31] <Beldar> djdr1988, Might help to know of the #winehq channel, as well wine has limitations, personally I would dual boot windows for use of some things.
[18:32] <WeiJunLi> I installed wine32 but I've another wine by default which may be 64bit, how can I run a program using the wine32?
[18:32] <djdr1988> i was going to, but after windows crashed on this laptop, i have been unable to reinstall windows, it keeps freezing install. I was able to get ubuntu working with a little help on this channel
[18:32] <llutz> Lunario: just login again via ssh
[18:33] <blackangelpr> WeiJunLi, wine channel #winehq as Beldar mention
[18:33] <Beldar> djdr1988, If you have a legit activation key, MS will get you a install discs at a small price, and even a new key if needed.
[18:34] <djdr1988> ok, I will have to contact them and see what they will do. Thank You
[18:35] <blackangelpr> new laptops have the serial on chips on the mother board just download the iso and install windows they do not even ask for serial since its on the board :P weird but it happened to me already while helping some one
[18:35] <djdr1988> How do I figure out the version name of ubuntu I am running?
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  cat /etc/issue
[18:35] <djdr1988> MonkeyDust: Im not sure what that means. Im still new to linux
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  open a terminal, then type that
[18:36] <blackangelpr> crlt +alt+ t
[18:36] <blackangelpr> then ctrl +shift +v
[18:37] <djdr1988> ok, so as far as knowing which playonlinux to download, as far as trusty or saucy....how do i know which one it is?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  saucy is dead, so it must be trusty (or precise for 12.04)
[18:38] <blackangelpr> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:38] <blackangelpr> 	
[18:38] <blackangelpr> Trusty Tahr
[18:38] <blackangelpr> 	
[18:38] <blackangelpr> Rel
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  so what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[18:38] <blackangelpr> 	
[18:38] <unopaste> blackangelpr you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:38] <djdr1988> it is 14.04.1 LTS
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  great, that's trusty
[18:39] <djdr1988> ok. Thank You
[18:39] <blackangelpr> djdr1988, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:41] <Lunario> llutz: Is there also a way to do the same thing for my sftp server?
[18:41] <djdr1988> when typing in the commands to download playonlinux, in one of the lines, it shows a vertical line seperating a section of code, how do I do that? I dont think its lowercase L or I
[18:43] <blackangelpr> |  ?
[18:43] <llutz> Lunario: idk, you might look at the ChrootDirectory option in sshd_config maybe
[18:43] <djdr1988> yes
[18:43] <blackangelpr> shift + \
[18:43] <blackangelpr> top key of enter
[18:43] <Lunario> alright
[18:43] <blackangelpr> if you have a english keyboard
[18:45] <pbx> is there a way to bring all of an application's windows forward at once?
[18:45] <pbx> (in unity)
[18:46] <Mildreath> Hii guys!! :*
[18:46]  * AcidRain2012 hits alt+tab in gnome2
[18:46] <blackangelpr> (O_O) not that i know :P you can ask
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> idk how to do it in unity
[18:46] <blackangelpr> hi there Mildreath
[18:46] <Mildreath> hehe How are you?? Blackangelpr
[18:47] <pbx> alt-tab lets me select an application, but only foregrounds one of its windows if it has several open
[18:47] <chan89> alt-`
[18:47] <blackangelpr> Mildreath, great thanks :) watching a sc2 tournament and the chat :)
[18:48] <Mildreath> aah ok
[18:48] <pbx> chan89, alt-` lets me flip through previews of the open windows, but when one is chosen only that one is brought forward
[18:48] <chan89> hmm yeah pbx..
[18:50] <Mildreath> Nadie que quiera charlar??
[18:51] <blackangelpr> Mildreath, envia en privado :P
[18:51] <Mildreath> Ah ok
[18:51] <davidrsmorris> Chrooted into system broken mid-release-upgrade.  Can't get all the tex related packages uninstalled, and they're hanging up the update.  How do I tell the system to remove packages with a missing dependency?
[18:57] <blackangelpr> davidrsmorris, http://askubuntu.com/questions/263378/how-to-fix-dependencies-broken-packages
[18:57] <blackangelpr> davidrsmorris, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[18:57] <blackangelpr> hope it helps
[18:59] <adama_> slt
[19:00] <asher1> help please
[19:01] <blackangelpr> asher1, where is the question ?
[19:01] <davidrsmorris> does anyone know what display manager 14.04 is supposed to use?
[19:02] <blackangelpr> X
[19:02] <blackangelpr> mir is still not deployed on any LTS
[19:02] <adama_> slhygjghy
[19:02] <blackangelpr> i guess you use ubuntu since you are on the chat
[19:02] <asher1> about my question is i have problem with something i try to install and i get error
[19:02] <blackangelpr> adama_,  ??
[19:03] <Beldar> davidrsmorris, compiz if unity
[19:03] <asher1> and this error what i get
[19:03] <asher1> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[19:04] <Beldar> asher1, How are you installing?
[19:04] <AcidRain2012> NetSplit Detected: *.net *.split.
[19:04] <adama_> yes i now
[19:05] <AcidRain2012> lol. that full system backup i started a few hrs ago is still going on
[19:05] <blackangelpr> AcidRain2012, it worth it :)
[19:05] <Beldar> AcidRain2012, keep it to support please, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[19:06] <asher1> i install something for ircd
[19:06] <AcidRain2012> i was stating that incase anyone needed full system backup support
[19:06] <asher1> and i get error from configure
[19:06] <Beldar> AcidRain2012, That is not how the channel works, you know that.
[19:06] <AcidRain2012> ;)
[19:07] <Beldar> asher1, Have you checked if your install is in the ubuntu repos?
[19:07] <asher1> yes
[19:07] <jenia> I need to know this, its off topic please forgive me: x by y, is x the width or the height usually?
[19:07] <Beldar> asher1, And was it?
[19:07] <asher1> its look everything is ok
[19:07] <asher1> and when i configure what i need
[19:07] <asher1> i  get error
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> x is width
[19:07] <jenia> thanks
[19:07] <asher1> about C
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> asher1: what error?
[19:07] <asher1> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> perhaps you dont have C compiler installed?
[19:07] <asher1> this
[19:08] <asher1> error
[19:08] <asher1> C compiler
[19:08] <asher1> and i run C compiler
[19:08] <AcidRain2012> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[19:08] <AcidRain2012> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/checking-for-c-compiler-default-output-configure-error-c-compiler-cannot-create-183861/
[19:09] <djdr1988> how do you format a usb drive in ubuntu?
[19:10] <Cydrobolt> Hi
[19:10] <pussygladiator> Is there anyway I can tell the terminal to shutdown and boot to a specific iso
[19:10] <AcidRain2012> djdr1988: i suggest gparted
[19:10] <Cydrobolt> Is there a way to access root if I disabled password auth and my RSA key is not working?
[19:10] <pussygladiator> without cutting me out of ssh
[19:10] <djdr1988> thank you
[19:11] <jost> Cydrobolt: Usually that is a case for accessing a rescue terminal the hoster provides
[19:11] <AcidRain2012> djdr1988: if you just like the terminal: http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-format-usb-drive-in-the-terminal/
[19:11] <Cydrobolt> Ok
[19:13] <asher1> AcidRain2012
[19:13] <asher1> i inside there but what i need to do?
[19:13] <AcidRain2012> depends on the error you got before the one you posted
[19:13] <AcidRain2012> are you running makefile?
[19:13] <asher1> yes
[19:14] <asher1> i try doing like this
[19:14] <AcidRain2012> just scroll up. and see why C couldnt compile
[19:15] <asher1> ohh
[19:16] <asher1> look
[19:16] <asher1> AcidRain2012
[19:16] <asher1> ./configure CC=c89 CFLAGS=-O2 LIBS=-lposix
[19:16] <asher1> i do this
[19:16] <AcidRain2012> asher1: what program are you trying to make?
[19:17] <asher1> Chanfix
[19:17] <asher1> this run
[19:17] <asher1> with sql
[19:17] <asher1> ircd
[19:17] <ikonia> c89 is not the compiler
[19:17] <ikonia> gcc is the compiler
[19:17] <JoakimA> i have searched around for a solution but i cant find it, how do you do the pipe sign | in ubuntu? i use it through virtualbox and noone of the standard commands works really :(
[19:17] <asher1> ok
[19:17] <asher1> how i write this?
[19:17] <ikonia> JoakimA: it will depend on your keyboard map
[19:18] <AcidRain2012> asher1: why not just install it from repos?
[19:18] <JoakimA> Ikonia: Using a swedish keyboard layout, but i have tried change the keyboard and stuff and still not working! :D
[19:18] <ikonia> JoakimA: I have no idea about the swedish keyboard
[19:19] <JoakimA> Ikonia: Thx anyway! :D
[19:20] <yoyobla> JoakimA: Alt Gr + ><|?
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> JoakimA  to the left, next to the shift key https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#mediaviewer/File:ISO_keyboard_%28105%29_QWERTY_UK.svg
[19:20] <asher1> ?
[19:21] <JoakimA> yoyobla: doesnt work. Already tried!
[19:21] <JoakimA> MonkeyDust: yeah tried all that stuff and it doesnt work! :D
[19:22] <owner1> anyone know how to create the .Xresources file at home?
[19:22] <llutz> owner1: nan ~/.Xresources
[19:22] <llutz> owner1: nano ~/.Xresources
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> JoakimA  how did you type it, before you started using ubuntu? do it the same way now
[19:23] <owner1> llutz: does that copy that file from /etc/X11 into ~/?
[19:23] <llutz> owner1: no, it creates a new if it doesn't exist, or edit the existing one
[19:24] <owner1> thx
[19:25] <bprompt> owner1:    or you can also just do a "touch ~/.Xresources"
[19:27] <sere> anyone know a good way to convert multiple images down to size
[19:27] <davidrsmorris> hey can someone on 14.04 paste me their  /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf ?
[19:30] <JoakimA> MonkeyDust: Yeah, i tries that like i did before ;-) nothing works really! :D
[19:30] <AndChat|505161> error: no such partition
[19:31] <AndChat|505161> entering rescue mode
[19:31] <AndChat|505161> grub rescue
[19:31] <AndChat|505161> please hell
[19:31] <AndChat|505161> help
[19:32] <hasselmm> hi, how to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 or 13.10 those days?
[19:32] <ikonia> hasselmm: what is the end release you want to get to 14.04 ?
[19:32] <havarka> JoakimA which one, there are four?!
[19:32] <hasselmm> ikonia: ehm... i've meant 14.04
[19:32] <ikonia> hasselmm: ok, if you're on 12.10 - I'd suggest doing a clean install
[19:33] <ikonia> hasselmm: upgrading through 2 EOL release, isn't something I personally believe is wise,
[19:33] <ikonia> others may disagree but I think there is too much change
[19:33] <JoakimA> havarka: | alt gr+<> sign next to left shift
[19:33] <havarka> JoakimA, what?
[19:34] <hasselmm> ikonia: problem wiht EOL rather seems, that the repos got purged
[19:34] <hasselmm> at least for 12.10
[19:34] <bprompt> sere:    all I can think offhand is using imagemagick   in a bash script
[19:34] <ObrienDave> hasselmm, the repos are still there if you know where to look ;)
[19:34] <ikonia> hasselmm: thats not a real problem
[19:34] <ikonia> hasselmm: however I still advise not to upgrade through those releases personally
[19:35] <JoakimA> havarka: nvm. found a solution. but it aint optimal ;-P
[19:35] <ObrienDave> hasselmm, clean install is a much better option
[19:35] <havarka> whatever, so want it or not?
[19:36] <sere> bprompt: ok i will look into that.. thanks
[19:36] <bprompt> sere:    http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php
[19:36] <sere> bprompt: thank you
[19:36] <hasselmm> uch, her answer: an embarassed "NO! not gonna happen!"
[19:36] <bprompt> sere:   is installed, I gather with imagemagick... since it shows in bash for me :)
[19:37] <ObrienDave> hasselmm, who's answer?
[19:38] <hasselmm> ObrienDave: my wife's answer to fresh install
[19:38] <hasselmm> (after her running a non-LTS release and not following updates)
[19:38] <ObrienDave> tell her it's safer than doing 3 upgrades
[19:38] <hasselmm> (i really should suggest her to install windows ME - with that attitude :-p)
[19:39] <hasselmm> ObrienDave: she knows and says "NO!"
[19:39] <hasselmm> :-(
[19:39] <ObrienDave> oh well, her machine and security
[19:39] <sere> bprompt: yea your right I already had it too..sweet :)
[19:39] <Sindy> pong
[19:39] <asher1> ?
[19:39] <asher1> someone
[19:39] <hasselmm> ObrienDave: don't tell me. i am as shocked as you
[19:42] <ObrienDave> hasselmm, then do a do-release-upgrade 3 separate times in terminal. it will get her to 14.04 LTS
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> or type it 3 times in a row, separated by semicolons    (joke)
[19:43] <hasselmm> ObrienDave: thanks a lot! let's cross our fingers that this works on her install and fixes her mood
[19:44] <ObrienDave> hasselmm, that will NEVER happen LOL (has been married twice) ;P
[19:44] <hasselmm> MonkeyDust: much still learn young padawan must about best wife of them all
[19:47] <malkauns> facebook down? :P
[19:48] <uRock> malkauns, yup
[19:48] <hasselmm> malkauns: i'd rather blame iwldvm :-D
[19:48] <malkauns> iwldvm?
[19:48] <hasselmm> malkauns: intel's wlan driver
[19:49] <hasselmm> malkauns: that's what's usually broken for me, when network is gone
[19:49] <malkauns> lol
[19:49] <hasselmm> malkauns: but i was joking. seems facebook really got bombed
[19:50] <uRock> I hope it stays down.
[19:51] <Beldar> +1
[19:51] <hasselmm> uRock: and what... hope for people relearning social behavior and doing useful things with their time?
[19:51] <uRock> hasselmm, exactly
[19:51] <llutz> hasselmm: like waisting time in irc?
[19:51] <PCPinjecti0n> So anyone know how to properly install Caffeine? The program that prevents your monitor from falling asleep.
[19:51] <Beldar> never will happen but a nice dream
[19:51] <PCPinjecti0n> hey btw
[19:52] <hasselmm> llutz: IRC channels got some netiquette at least
[19:53] <uRock> hasselmm, true, how can one not be entertained while watching the ##windows channel
[19:53] <ObrienDave> by watching #ubuntu-offtopic ;P
[19:54] <hasselmm> llutz: oh, an heard rumor of people on IRC helping others, but i believe that's greatly exaggerated. rumor.... ObrienDave, not? :-D
[19:54] <hasselmm> uRock: :-)
[19:54] <ObrienDave> hasselmm, not true, way too many snarky people on IRC ;P
[19:54] <PCPinjecti0n> Anyone use the Caffeine program? anyone
[19:54] <hasselmm> :-D
[19:54] <PCPinjecti0n> ?
[19:55] <ObrienDave> PCPinjecti0n, just set it to never turn off, you don't need a program for that LOL
[19:55] <godbod> what's the topic ?
[19:55] <uRock> just realized there is a #facebook
[19:55] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu SUPPORT
[19:55] <hasselmm> uRock: uh! let's head over!
[19:55] <uRock> hasselmm, I'm there
[19:56] <ObrienDave> godbod, the topic of this channel is Ubuntu SUPPORT
[19:56] <asher1> help
[19:56] <asher1> please
[19:56] <asher1> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> godbod  type /topic
[19:57] <asher1> what i do noww?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> asher1  install gcc from the repos
[19:57] <llutz> asher1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:59] <PCPinjecti0n> ObrienDave: i've set that but it still dims after 5 minutes.
[19:59] <PCPinjecti0n> ObrienDave: dunno what to do now....
[20:00] <wmantly> !balance
[20:00] <ObrienDave> check your screensaver settings
[20:01] <djdr1988> anyone have a good guide on how to install utorrent?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  ubuntu has deluge in the repos
[20:02] <djdr1988> MonkeyDust: what does that mean?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> djdr1988  that you can use deluge instead of utorrent
[20:02] <cynicallemon> just use transmission for bt
[20:02] <djdr1988> oh. gotcha. ok thank you
[20:02] <asher1> i install this
[20:02] <asher1> i have
[20:02] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, i like deluge
[20:03] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: I am installing it now. thank you
[20:04] <adamcunnington> Hi, I'm confused, I have 2 .sh files, I am executing them in the same way (./blah.sh from same directory), both have the same shebang line
[20:04] <adamcunnington> yet 1 works and 1 gives permission denied. When i run the permission denied one with sudo, i get unknown command
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> adamcunnington  use chmod +x to make it executable
[20:05] <adamcunnington> MonkeyDust: thanks
[20:05] <guntbert> adamcunnington: my guess - "permission denied" is the result from one line in the file
[20:05] <adamcunnington> guntbert: MonkeyDust solved it
[20:05] <yoyobla> How do I make Ubuntu fully free?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> yoyobla  meaning?
[20:05] <ObrienDave> yoyobla, it is fully free
[20:06] <suore> Hello, need help
[20:06] <uRock> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:06] <yoyobla> MonkeyDust, ObrienDave: How do I get rid of all the non-free software that is included?
[20:06] <boldfilter1> Hey, anyway to use status bar icons different from the unity icons
[20:07] <boldfilter1> Use different set of icon on the status bar than what's on your unity/global icons
[20:08] <bootstrappm> hello!
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> yoyobla  use     sudo vrms     to find out what's non-free, then replace it with whatever you want
[20:08] <PCPinjecti0n> ObrienDave: Ty! lets see if that worked!
[20:08] <bootstrappm> what MTA does cron use to send mail on trusty?
[20:10] <ObrienDave> yoyobla, "free" means open source license. non-free means close source, not as in you have to pay for it
[20:10] <Sindy> www.superonline.eu
[20:11] <bootstrappm> crons are failing on one of my our servers but I don't have visibility as to why. Doesn't seem to send the mail
[20:11] <ttj> hey guys quick question for you, i just installed ubuntu onto a 2nd HD, working fine but how to i get grub to see the windows thats on another HD?
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> bootstrappm  make sure you use absolute paths in the cronjobs, so no shortcuts like ~ or .
[20:13] <bootstrappm> MonkeyDust, using absolute paths to a script that does more complex things
[20:13] <bootstrappm> MonkeyDust, need to capture the output of whats going wrong in that script
[20:13] <yoyobla> ObrienDave: Free means free software, not open source. Open source can be non-free software.
[20:14] <Dev__> Can I clone a library with its exact same code and credit for myself if its licensed under LGPL?
[20:15] <ObrienDave> yoyobla, free means open-source as in your free to examine the code, modify it to your liking and release it as you see fit
[20:15] <jost> Hi! I need some help with getting a remote sshd running again. I have root access using a recovery shell...
[20:16] <asher1> someone help
[20:16] <asher1> i do something stupid
[20:16] <asher1> sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gccXXX /usr/bin/gcc
[20:16] <Dev__> ObrienDave: was that answer for me?
[20:16] <asher1> :S what is mean?
[20:16] <llutz> ObrienDave: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:16] <jost> I did some changes to the sshd_config, after issuing a "service ssh restart" sshd stopped working. Can't find any helpful info for debugging the problem though
[20:17] <asher1> please help
[20:18] <Dev__> can i clone an lgpl library and release it?
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> asher1  ln -s creates a symbolic link
[20:18] <WHAT_DOWN> someone should make a texlive-all-useful package that contains texlive-full minus the documentation
[20:18] <MagicSpud> hello I want storybook pro and I get this? http://wordweb.ch/drehbuch-schreibprogramme-software.html
[20:18] <ObrienDave> llutz, tell the people asking to take it to OT
[20:18] <asher1> when i doing this i see something change
[20:18] <MagicSpud> how come there is no ubuntu version of those alternatives?
[20:18] <bootstrappm> asher1, that's not that harmful, be calm. Looks like you tried to create a shortcut to your C/C++ compiler
[20:19] <MagicSpud> I almost finished my novel
[20:19] <MagicSpud> I need the fucking pro version now!
[20:19] <asher1> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[20:19] <asher1> ok how i fix this
[20:19] <Beldar> you need some medication
[20:19] <asher1> ?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  great, but mind your language
[20:20] <WHAT_DOWN> MagicSpud: you get that because you didn't write it in latex
[20:20] <bootstrappm> asher1, first, why are you doing things you don't understand?
[20:20] <MagicSpud> latex=
[20:20] <MagicSpud> ?
[20:20] <asher1> no
[20:20] <asher1> i try to understand
[20:20] <WHAT_DOWN> MagicSpud: the document editor for real men
[20:20] <asher1> but no someone explain to me
[20:20] <bootstrappm> asher1, then ask before you do it
[20:20] <bootstrappm> asher1, second, do this: 'ls /usr/bin | grep gcc'
[20:21] <teward> MagicSpud, keep yourlanguage family friendly please.
[20:21] <xombi> the document editor because Linux developers can't be bothered to Gui things?
[20:21] <bootstrappm> asher1, look for the one with the greatest version number
[20:21] <xombi> also, awkward pseudo-sexual Linux reference.
[20:21] <bootstrappm> asher1, what do you see?
[20:21] <MagicSpud> so latex is the deal?
[20:21] <asher1> c89-gcc
[20:21] <asher1> c99-gcc
[20:21] <asher1> gcc
[20:21] <asher1> gcc-4.4
[20:21] <asher1> but this in read
[20:21] <xombi> Just wait unti you hear what the image editor on Linux is called and you'll understand.
[20:22] <bootstrappm> asher1, its supposed to be
[20:22] <asher1> ok
[20:22] <WHAT_DOWN> there's a crappy visual latex editor (LyX), but just writing latex straight up is vastly superior to all wysiwyg word processors
[20:23] <asher1> ok i do what you say
[20:23] <asher1> what now?
[20:23] <bootstrappm> asher1, now: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[20:23] <bootstrappm> let us now what you get
[20:24] <bootstrappm> know*
[20:24] <bootstrappm> asher1, if that doesn't work you might want to just try: sudo apt-get purge gcc; sudo apt-get install gcc
[20:24] <asher1> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/gcc': File exists
[20:25] <bootstrappm> asher1, hm. Try: gcc --version
[20:25] <asher1> ok
[20:26] <asher1> The program 'gcc' can be found in the following packages:
[20:26] <asher1>  * gcc
[20:26] <bootstrappm> asher1, now try: /usr/bin/gcc --version
[20:26] <asher1> gcc (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1) 4.4.3
[20:27] <M1ke> hi
[20:27] <bootstrappm> asher1, ok. That command you ran didn't do that. Your PATH is messed up
[20:27] <bootstrappm> asher1, do: echo $PATH
[20:27] <alayna> uh
[20:28] <asher1> only
[20:28] <asher1> echo $PATH
[20:28] <asher1> ?
[20:28] <bootstrappm> asher1, yes
[20:28] <bootstrappm> asher1, what do you get?
[20:28] <alayna> THERE ARE ACTUALLY OTHER PEOPLE WITH THESE COMPUTERS
[20:28] <alayna> WOW
[20:28] <bootstrappm> alayna, ??
[20:28] <asher1> ./usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[20:28] <xombi> caps.
[20:28] <asher1> this i get
[20:29] <asher1> but i have more error
[20:29] <bootstrappm> ash4, what are the errors?
[20:29] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[20:30] <xombi> I've been wondering where people draw the line for wisywig. html editors make sense. Well, HTML and other...things. Word processors, those make some sense as not wisywig. But then we'd never edit images that way.
[20:30] <bootstrappm> asher1, when do you get that error?
[20:30] <asher1> when i try configure something
[20:31] <asher1> i get error from terminal
[20:31] <bootstrappm> asher1, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about...what?
[20:31] <bootstrappm> asher1, did you fix the gcc thing?
[20:31] <asher1> about project
[20:31] <asher1> yes
[20:31] <MagicSpud> latex requires to uninstall a lot of packages in my system forget about it
[20:31] <asher1> i fix this thanks
[20:31] <MagicSpud> how could i get the story book pro?
[20:34] <guite> hi all, there is no way I can make my nvidia card work. I am trying to use nvidia-prime (prime-select) and my computer never accept to switch to the nvidia card. I tried to force it using update-alternatives and restarting lightdm but I have an error, here is the log => http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-137901
[20:34] <guite> the error is ther => CRITICAL: x_server_local_get_authority_file_path: assertion 'server != NULL' failed
[20:34] <xombi> wow, Storybook is sure dead.
[20:36] <guite> my ubuntu version: 14.04
[20:36] <guite> uname -r : 3.13.0-35-generic
[20:38] <TJ-> MagicSpud: Did you look at the open-source continuation project, at http://ostorybook.sourceforge.net/
[20:42] <MagicSpud> TJ- wow youre a finder!!!
[20:42] <ObrienDave> google does wonders
[20:42] <[L]ight> Morning all.
[20:43] <MagicSpud> TJ- how do I open .bin files¿
[20:43] <xombi> don't you generally run those, or leave them alone?
[20:43] <[L]ight> MagicSpud: ./[file]
[20:44] <ObrienDave> MagicSpud, http://www.getdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/14.04/?page=2
[20:44] <[L]ight> MagicSpud: Might wanna assign executable permissions.
[20:44] <MagicSpud> I found this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-execute-a-run-or-bin-file-in-ubuntu
[20:44] <Daryl> whats a Ubuntu DNS Server do?
[20:44] <MagicSpud> and its troubling my mind
[20:45] <xombi> What's troubling about it?
[20:45] <xombi> Oh, it's like an APK... it extracts itself and then runs.
[20:47] <ryan-c> anyone know what rcu_sched is and why it's using a bunch of cpu time (along with two kworkers)?
[20:47] <combobulated> ALSA just broke for me after a kernel update. Anybody else?
[20:49] <MagicSpud> TJ- is that Storybook version better than the previous one? I feel handicapped with the actual one... it only admits a certain number of letters for chapter
[20:51] <madjaat> hi
[20:51] <uRock> hi
[20:52] <xombi> hi?
[20:52] <madjaat> Do you speak french?
[20:52] <ObrienDave> do you?
[20:53] <ObrienDave> !fr | madjaat
[20:53] <uRock> madjaat, Je ne parle que l'anglais. Désolé.
[20:54] <asher1> bootstrappm?
[20:55] <bootstrappm> asher1, sorry bud had to get bacck to work. Ask your next issue here and maybe somebody else can help
[20:55] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : are you about ?
[20:56] <uRock> #24?
[20:57] <TJ-> MagicSpud: I have no idea; I simply located the Open Source continuation project for you
[20:57] <asher1> i do what you say to me
[20:57] <asher1> but i get the error
[20:57] <MagicSpud> TJ- yep I noticed...its just there is not much info in that page and I do need to run sudo to install it
[20:58] <asher1> this my error what i get
[20:58] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[20:58] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , I installed Ubuntu 14.4  On my Western Digital Elements USB Drive , yet when I reboot nothing happens , how can I solve this please ?
[20:58] <TJ-> MagicSpud: The attached blog and the About History pages are quite detailed
[20:59] <ObrienDave> MagicSpud, get the .deb here http://www.getdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/14.04/?page=2
[21:00] <_unreal_> asher1,  are you using PostgreSQL
[21:01] <asher1> i have
[21:01] <MagicSpud> yep I tried but it opens with software center which tells me there is no package called ostorybook
[21:01] <asher1> bootstrappm?
[21:02] <ObrienDave> software center needs to die a slow death along with WUBI
[21:02] <asher1> you see what i send?
[21:02] <bootstrappm> asher1, I can't help
[21:02] <ObrienDave> MagicSpud, install gdebi
[21:02] <ObrienDave> open .deb with gdebi
[21:02] <MagicSpud> I did but how do I choose gdebi when I am asked to?
[21:03] <MagicSpud> I only can see my download folders
[21:03] <TJ-> asher1: What package are you attempting to build, and why?
[21:03] <asher1> why?
[21:03] <_unreal_> the reason I ask is because thats a required header file for PostgreSQL.
[21:04] <ObrienDave> MagicSpud, right click .deb, open with, chose gdebi as default application
[21:04] <ObrienDave> *choose
[21:04] <_unreal_> I was wondering if you had removed it or done some kind of alteration
[21:04] <_unreal_> well regardless I have to go get my child
[21:04] <asher1> ?
[21:04] <asher1> why you cant help me?
[21:04] <asher1> bootstrappm?
[21:05] <littlebit> hi people, i have installed the latest xubuntu and have a question of how to stream the audio on 2 audio output devices
[21:06] <MagicSpud> ObrienDave where the deb is? http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-execute-a-run-or-bin-file-in-ubuntu
[21:06] <MagicSpud> ObrienDave i just clicked on the install now button
[21:07] <_unreal_> asher1, if your missing that header file re-install it.
[21:07] <TJ-> asher1: This channel is for support of Ubuntu and its packages; the questions you're asking would be more suitable in a programming channel
[21:07] <SniperToni> hi
[21:07] <_unreal_> and youy said you have used PostgreSQL, if you removed it try re-installing it.
[21:07] <frodopwns> hey guys, i have a vm with a strange encrypted entry in known_hosts, normally i see the ip and then "ssh-rsa" and the pub key, can anyone explain what might cause this to happen?
[21:07] <ObrienDave> MagicSpud, where ever your browser saves the file to. i don't know where yours is
[21:08] <_unreal_> back in a while got to get the munchkin
[21:08] <ObrienDave> you're still here? LOL
[21:08] <timg_> hi is there a way to add a route ($route add) with a priority?
[21:09] <TJ-> timg_: A "metric"
[21:09] <bootstrappm> asher1, because you're asking for a series of problems that have available solutions on Google and because I'm at work working on stuff that should have been finished Monday ;)
[21:10] <asher1> ok
[21:10] <asher1> thanks my fried
[21:10] <asher1> friend
[21:10] <timg_> TJ-: thanks i try to google it, a vpn connection just stole a bunch of local ip's ....
[21:11] <Paul_MyBB> Hi all, I'm having an issue with mounting USb drives
[21:13] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , has /boot/grub/device.map been changed in Ubuntu 14.04 as it seems to be missing ?
[21:13] <frodopwns> what would cause HashKnownHosts to be on by default for a new user?
[21:15] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: It isn't required but can be used in Grub 2. One can create it if needed.
[21:17] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om  : ok thank you
[21:17] <TJ-> frodopwns: It's set in "/etc/ssh/ssh_config" as a security measure
[21:18] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , I installed Ubuntu 14.4  On my Western Digital Elements USB Drive , yet when I reboot nothing happens , how can I solve this please ?
[21:20] <frodopwns> TJ-:  thanks
[21:21] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: "yet when I reboot nothing happens" ?? not even an advisory from bios that "boot device not found" ??
[21:22] <etronik> hi all,  my ubuntu 14.04 login screen has changed image from the default one to a blue one... is this normal or expected ?
[21:22] <etronik> I don't recall having changed any of that ?
[21:23] <TJ-> etronik: Is it the same background as the user has set?
[21:23] <etronik> TJ-, it's a different background from the default one from install that's what I can say
[21:24] <timg_> TJ-: seems that i cant set the "metric" on mac osx, do you know if it's up to the mtu?
[21:24] <TJ-> timg_: MTU has nothing to do with it
[21:24] <etronik> TJ-, I haven't logged out in a while, and when I saw the different background found it strange co's I did not change anything
[21:25] <timg_> TJ-: any good idea how to add a route on top of others on mac osx?
[21:25] <TJ-> etronik: lightdm will usually alter the background displayed according to which user name is being highlighted, if that user has a custom background set *and* is not using an encrypted home directory
[21:25] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om , No ideas as my laptop screen is broke and I can no longer into my bios , so I am connected to an aoc aoc monitor via hdmi , I can run a live cd fine , but when it trys and loads from my USB drive it seems to be sitting there and i tried pressing enter just to see if it needed me to press anything
[21:25] <TJ-> timg_: Sorry, no, but I'd have thought as it uses basically the same tools as other *nixes, it should be able to do it
[21:26] <etronik> TJ-,  not the case... I had always my user highlighted
[21:26] <etronik> TJ-, and I don't have any other user besides guest
[21:26] <Jon30> how come I can no longer find wubi installer for windows? I went here but couldn't find any executables.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/
[21:26] <TJ-> etronik: Some recent package install/update may have altered it then
[21:28] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: Does the laptop have a serial port? If so, you could have the console on it
[21:29] <rainbowwarrior> TJ : No
[21:29] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: Maybe, when yo installed, grub got installed (default) to the hrad drive ? .. We can try and mount the usb drive fron terminal and see if grub's files are present on the USB drive .
[21:29] <Jon30> anybody?
[21:30] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: should still be able to access the bios on hdmi, boot the laptop, and press the button that lets it switch monitors
[21:31] <rainbowwarrior> eeee : there is no button on this laptop that switches it between monitors
[21:31] <eeee> rainbowwarrior: are you sure?
[21:32] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om : I can see files have been installed on the usb drive
[21:32] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, mine is Fn + F7
[21:33] <rainbowwarrior> eeee : let me check
[21:34] <rainbowwarrior> ObrienDave : oh ok will just go check what mine is
[21:36] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: What we need to know is the file "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" existent on the USB drive ?
[21:37] <Vampier-bill> Question install pipelite and all that stuff that uses wine and I dont really think I need it what is best way to remove 14.04
[21:37] <ryan-c> Can anyone help me figure out why rcu_sched is constantly using ~50% CPU?
[21:39] <ryan-c> also, i can't use strace on it, wtf
[21:39] <rainbowwarrior> Bashin-om : yes
[21:43] <Loshki> ryan-c: seen this? http://lwn.net/Articles/518953/
[21:44] <ShiN|ChaN> una pregunta
[21:45] <ShiN|ChaN> cómo me conecto al server chatzona desde linux?
[21:45] <k1l_> !sp | ShiN|ChaN
[21:46] <k1l_> !es | ShiN|ChaN
[21:46] <ryan-c> Loshki: That dosen't say anything about using ~50% CPU
[21:46] <ShiN|ChaN> Oks :)
[21:46] <ryan-c> Loshki: it makes it sound like 1-2% would be normal
[21:46] <Ambrose> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS squeeze/sid and I just added more memory to the VM. It was at 1GB and now it's at 8, however, only 3GB is recognized. I searched in apt for 'pae' but I don't have the pae kernel/headers. Anyonw know how I can enable the rest of the memory? Thx
[21:46] <babakslt> hi. im trying to compile a NodeJS .tr and have a problem. can any one help?
[21:47] <ryan-c> Ambrose: so this is a 32 bit system then?
[21:47] <Ambrose> ryan-c: Yes 32bit
[21:47] <Ambrose> ryan-c: "2.6.35-23-server" SMP
[21:47] <k1l_> Ambrose: "lsb_release -d" says what?
[21:47] <Ambrose> rDescription:    Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[21:47] <ryan-c> Ambrose: is there a pae kernel available to install?
[21:47] <Ambrose> Linux blah 2.6.35-23-server #41~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 22:44:15 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:48] <Ambrose> ryan-c: Nope, doesn't look like ther eis
[21:48] <cynicallemon> Ambrose: you need a PAE kernel
[21:48] <Ambrose> All the docs say to upgrade to the PAE kernel, but it's not listed in apt-get search pae
[21:48] <furqan> opencv anyone ?
[21:48] <Ambrose> Err apt-cache search pae
[21:48] <babakslt> im installing nodeJS 0.11.12 from .tr i know i should compile it so i dl the .tr and used tar -xzvf now i have a folder of the files but find no ./configure ! where should i find it?
[21:48] <ryan-c> Ambrose: I think 10.04 becomes unsupported in ~9months, can you rebuild the box with a newer ubuntu version?
[21:49] <Ladon> how do I request that something in the official repository get updated?
[21:49] <Ladon> nzbget is at 12.0 and 13.0 stable is out... as well as some awesome testing versions
[21:49] <k1l_> Ladon: file a bug/whishlist on launchpad
[21:49] <ObrienDave> Ladon, is it your package?
[21:49] <Ladon> no, ObrienDave
[21:49] <Ambrose> ryan-c: Yeah I'll see if I can run the newer LTS version, I was trying to avoid rebuilding it :)
[21:50] <ryan-c> Ladon: It is very unlikely to be updated. Generally the versions stay the same within a release as much as possible and bugfixes are backported.
[21:50] <ryan-c> Ladon: Maybe there's a PPA with the latest version?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> Ladon  the ubuntu devs probably know it better than you, have patience until then newt release or so
[21:50] <ryan-c> Ambrose: You need to rebuild it by april anyway unless you want to run without security updates
[21:50] <ObrienDave> Ladon, official versions go through extensive testing. security/quality checks, etc, before they are included in the repos
[21:51] <ryan-c> Ambrose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[21:51] <boldfilter1> Need to reset my default sound device
[21:51] <boldfilter1> Seems to be stuck on one device
[21:51] <Ambrose> ryan-c: Yes thanks, not a major concern since it's on private ip space and not routed etc
[21:51] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: OK, let's accept that grub is installed to the USB drive, what results when you set in bios as the USB as 1st boot priority, and try and boot it up ?
[21:52] <ryan-c> Ambrose: It's not connected to the internet at all?
[21:52] <boldfilter1> GUI wont let me select it
[21:52] <ryan-c> Ambrose: air gapped?
[21:52] <Ambrose> ryan-c: yes
[21:52] <rainbowwarrior> Bashing-om : just looking at my laptop manual now to find out what the buttons to switch monitors is
[21:53] <Bashing-om> rainbowwarrior: K
[21:53] <ryan-c> Ambrose: Ah, so you work for the government or a defense contractor?
[21:54] <TJ-> Ladon: create a bug report and request a refresh to the upstream release. That might get into Utopic (it's in the Universe pocket), but you'll need to also post a bug report to Debian since that package is imported without any Ubuntu-specific changes, and Debian only carries 12.0
[21:54] <Ambrose> ryan-c: Thanks for you help
[21:54] <ryan-c> Ambrose: You could probably build your own kernel from source.
[21:55] <ryan-c> Ambrose: there are some nice scripts that will build a .deb of a custom kernel
[21:55] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: What make/model is the laptop?
[21:55] <Ambrose> Yeah, I'll probably just reimage it and save the hastle
[21:55] <cynicallemon> there are pae kernels in lucid-update
[21:56] <TJ-> Ambrose have you seen http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/linux-image-generic-pae
[21:56] <cynicallemon> but best to go forward now than in several months
[21:57] <rainbowwarrior> TJ: its an Acer Aspire V5 V71P
[21:57] <Ambrose> Does that work when /etc/debian_version is squeeze/sid ?
[21:57] <babakslt> im installing nodeJS 0.11.12 from .tr i know i should compile it so i dl the .tr and used tar -xzvf now i have a folder of the files but find no ./configure ! where should i find it?
[21:58] <cynicallemon> Ambrose: thats debian so you will need debian backports for squeeze
[21:58] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to downgrade php5-fpm from 5.5 to 5.4 on Ubuntu 14.04? I can't find any guides.
[21:58] <Ambrose> cynicallemon: Ah ok
[22:00] <rainbowwarrior> brb
[22:01] <k1l_> Ambrose: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae" should do the trick to enable pae kernels
[22:01] <ryan-c> okay, why is my system spending a bunch of time on native_read_tsc and delay_tsc
[22:03] <cynicallemon> cuddylier: have you looked at apt pinning?
[22:03] <cuddylier> cynicallemon: No, never heard of that before
[22:03] <Ambrose> k1l_: Unfortunatley not: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/24a83e6f50e36917638e
[22:03] <ryan-c> looks like the nv94 i2c code (from the video driver)
[22:05] <k1l_> Ambrose: hmm, in the meantime the dropped making special pae kernels since pae is standard now in the kernel.
[22:05] <cynicallemon> cuddylier: you could probably do an apt-get -f (force) install for the downgraded package
[22:05] <k1l_> Ambrose: are you sure pae is not enabled already?
[22:05] <cuddylier> What would I type exactly?
[22:05] <cuddylier> apt-get -f php5-fpm then what?
[22:05] <Ambrose> k1l_: Not sure how to check...
[22:06] <marco_> i need a command to output a textfile content and the name of the textfile. What should I use?
[22:06] <k1l_> Ambrose: erm: "Linux wlc-logs.netcom.ubc.ca 2.6.35-23-server #41~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 22:44:15 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux" is that machine?
[22:06] <Ambrose> yeah, which is why I'm even more confused since it's x86_64
[22:06] <k1l_> yep
[22:07] <Ambrose> vmware shows 8GB ram, but free -m shows 3
[22:09] <marco_> i'm looking for certain call of a function. i thought something like this could do the trick: 'cat *.vhd | grep faulty'
[22:09] <marco_> and it did, but now i cant find the faulty file i'm looking for
[22:09] <cynicallemon> cuddylier: see this for more info https://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[22:11] <TJ-> Ambrose: what version of vmware are you using?
[22:12] <marco_> why nobody answers?
[22:12] <SNAFUdowser> Hey so I've got a wired connection but it
[22:12] <Ambrose> TJ-: Gimme a min to find out
[22:13] <SNAFUdowser> Hey, my wired connection is not being detected.  How can I debug this?
[22:14] <SNAFUdowser> I'm connecting on my college campus.  It works on my laptop running Ubuntu 14, but not on my desktop using a Ubuntu 12 variant.
[22:15] <TJ-> Ambrose: From what you've said so far it sounds as if the bare-metal host is running a 64-bit kernel (x86_64), but the virtual machine guests are using 32-bit kernels (i686)
[22:15] <TJ-> SNAFUdowser: Did you previously manually configure that wired connection?
[22:16] <Ambrose> TJ-: Hrm ok it will take me some time to look into this, thanks for your help so far
[22:17] <SNAFUdowser> TJ-: No I haven't.  I just installed Elementary OS and no wired connections appear.
[22:18] <TJ-> SNAFUdowser: Elementary OS isn't supported here
[22:20] <SNAFUdowser> I thought it would prolly be the same procedure, but I'll check out their IRC and see what luck I have there.  What would I do if it was stock Ubuntu 12?
[22:26] <fran> halo
[22:26] <Guest26659> soy fran y vengo de la cocina
[22:34] <cuddylier> How do I see all the available versions for a package?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: "apt-cache policy <package name>" ??
[22:36] <cuddylier> Bashing-om: Only version 5.5.9 for php5-fpm shows up, I need a 5.4 version hmmm
[22:49] <cynicallemon> cuddylier: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php5-fpm&searchon=names
[22:50] <Mussolini> hi everybody
[22:50] <installbitbake> does anybody know how I can install bitbake on ubuntu? The angstrom distro tells us to do sudo apt-get install bitbake but apt-get cannot find that package
[22:50] <Mussolini> how i change my desktop on ubuntu ?
[22:50] <installbitbake> I tried a lot of things I saw on google and I still do not have a good installation of bitbake on my ubuntu box :-(
[22:51] <Ben64> installbitbake: doesn't seem like that package is in the ubuntu repositories
[22:51] <k1l_> Mussolini: to what?
[22:51] <cuddylier> cynicallemon: When I do apt-get install php5-fpm=5.4.9-4ubuntu2.4 it says E: Version '5.4.9-4ubuntu2.4' for 'php5-fpm' was not found
[22:52] <Mussolini> change my background
[22:53] <k1l_> Mussolini: right click on it: change background image
[22:53] <Mussolini> change the image ther is on background of the system !
[22:53] <cynicallemon> cuddylier: probably because its not available for that release of ubuntu, you might have to download the .deb and manually install it with dpkg -i <packagename>
[22:53] <k1l_> Mussolini: or choose a image , make a rightclick on it and choose "choose as background"
[22:54] <cynicallemon> cuddylier: but i would be surprised if it installed without problems
[22:55] <dustinspringman> so... it really is a morbid pain in the arse to move indicators in the panel bar?? Editing .keyfiles and whatnot?? what happened to right+click / Move?? sheesh....
[22:55] <cuddylier> cynicallemon: Issue is I need e.g. curl for php and all sorts of things so it might just be better getting Ubuntu 12.04 but only if OVH actually had it as an option for VPSs
[22:55] <Ben64> cuddylier: why would you need that exact version though?
[22:55] <cuddylier> Ben64 I just need any version that isn't 5.5, whmcs doesn't work with 5.5+
[22:56] <dustinspringman> All I want it my indicator-multiload to be left of everything else so I am not having to mouse all the way across it when accessing other indicators then wanting to goto somethign like network or sound settings...
[22:56] <cuddylier> Ben64: Primarily because ioncube hasn't updated for 5.5
[22:56] <Ben64> cuddylier: then perhaps you should find something better than that
[22:56] <cuddylier> Ben64: I can't change billing system, my whole business is based around whmcs and there is nothing better out there.
[22:57] <smitzer> What is the best way to time something on ubuntu?
[22:57] <smitzer> let me rephrase
[22:57] <smitzer> what is the simplest way to time
[22:57] <k1l_> smitzer: "time <command>"
[22:58] <iceroot> how to find all packages installed from a specific repo? (backports in this case)
[22:58] <iceroot> smitzer: at
[22:59] <smitzer> i just want the time in the shell
[22:59] <smitzer> in windows: echo %time%
[22:59] <iceroot> smitzer: date
[22:59] <k1l_> yeah, date
[22:59] <Mussolini> Thank's k1l_
[23:00] <iceroot> smitzer: date +%T
[23:01] <iceroot> smitzer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_%28Unix%29#Formatting
[23:01] <Mussolini> thank's
[23:02] <nodiscc> hello, can someone tell me what's the default user agent string for firefox on ubuntu?
[23:02] <nodiscc> you can check at http://ifconfig.me/
[23:03] <iceroot> nodiscc: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0
[23:04] <nodiscc> iceroot: cool thanks, what ubuntu release? 14.04 ?
[23:04] <iceroot> nodiscc: yes
[23:05] <nodiscc> many thanks
[23:16] <rainbowwarrior> well seems the FN+F5 key  are my buttons for switching between monitors but only seem to work once I have loaded Ubuntu 14.04 Using the cd
[23:16] <rainbowwarrior> dvd sorry
[23:18] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: Obviously require software drivers, they aren't hard-wired.  As a matter of interest, what exactly is wrong with the LCD?
[23:19] <Mussolini> how I execute on file same this "jdk-7u60-windows-x64.exe" extension on ubuntu ??????????????????
[23:21] <JohnTalent> how do I find all *.html files in all directories of 'ram'?
[23:21] <rainbowwarrior> TJ: the screen is cracked and has some sort of ink or something all over it
[23:21] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: Ouch - that sounds like the liquid crystals have flowed
[23:22] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: good news is, replacing LCDs is relatively easy and low-cost in most situations
[23:22] <jnek1127> hey can i get some really quick help with backing up a hard disk in order to reformat it?
[23:23] <ObrienDave> jnek1127, what's to know?
[23:23] <jnek1127> can i pm you obrien?
[23:24] <ObrienDave> please keep it here for others to learn
[23:24] <smitzer> ActionBar actionBar = getActivity().getActionBar();
[23:24] <smitzer> can that fail?
[23:24] <jnek1127> ok that's fine,
[23:25] <rainbowwarrior> TJ: yep :(  I was not a happy person to wake up finding my laptop screen had been broke , It cost me 650 and I only just bought it Ocotber last year
[23:25] <ObrienDave> jnek1127, so, what do you want to know?
[23:26] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: I've got used to repairing/replacing them, but I do take good care too - not broken one myself so far :)
[23:26] <rainbowwarrior> TJ: ahh I am useless with my hands though :(
[23:27] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: use your feet ;p
[23:27] <jnek1127> i'm booting ubuntu from a cd on my new PC, just because i want to transfer files over from my Mac using an apparently damaged external HD that only works on Macs. The external is damaged though so I have to repair it, which is why i'm using Ubuntu, cause i guess it recognizes it as well. I want to reformat it, so can i backup the files by creating a disk image then restoring the disk image after reformating it, or do i have to
[23:27] <rainbowwarrior> lol
[23:27] <Mussolini> sorry all
[23:27] <Mussolini> but, is impossible founded the sama that execute on .tar.gz
[23:27] <Mussolini> same
[23:27] <jnek1127> sorry for the messy question i was trying to type it out as fast as possible
[23:28] <TJ-> jnek1127: if the external drive is damaged, why do you trust it for reliably transferring files?
[23:28] <rainbowwarrior> TJ: there is a bios update but im nor sure how to do them via linux
[23:29] <stooped> jnek1127: Macs use a format readable by ubuntu
[23:30] <jnek1127> cause i have a lot of files i want to transfer and it has enough room. it just got turned to read-only and my mac can't repair it. the files themselves didn't damage it, i was just being stupid by not properly ejecting it. at least that's what i think happened. anyway, i was sure a simple reformating would repair the drive, i just have a lot of files on there right now that i want to back up
[23:30] <stooped> jnek1127: Did u try it yet?
[23:30] <TJ-> rainbowwarrior: I'd hold off until the screen is repaired
[23:30] <jnek1127> it's a WD MyPassport for mac
[23:31] <jnek1127> no i haven't reformatted it yet, I want to know if creating a disk image will properly back up the files
[23:31] <TJ-> jnek1127: So, you mean the drive itself is fine but you think the file-system data is damaged?
[23:31] <jnek1127> i am a true beginner
[23:31] <rainbowwarrior> TJ : ok ty
[23:31] <jnek1127> yeah at least i think so, i can view the files (read-only) i just can't make changes to the file system
[23:32] <stooped> jnek1127: stay away from formatting untill u recover the files.
[23:32] <ObrienDave> jnek1127, yes it will but since it's only file data a simple copy and paste should work as well
[23:32] <jnek1127> i actually can copy files out on ubuntu and not on my mac
[23:33] <jnek1127> thanks obrien, but since i'm now starting to get skeptical, how can i check to see if my files aren't damaged as well?
[23:33] <TJ-> jnek1127: In Linux you can look at the kernel log to see if the kernel is reporting Input/Output (I/O) errors. If not, then the drive is probably physically OK and you can reformat. In Ubuntu start a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) then type "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and tell us the URL of the paste, so we can look
[23:33] <computa_mike> Hi - wasn't sure if we knew this - but kdenlive in 14.04 - just popped onto kdenlive project page http://kdenlive.org/download-ubuntu - they are saying that the official repositories are depricated...
[23:34] <computa_mike> Did we know that?
[23:34]  * ObrienDave knows nothing about Mac FS
[23:35] <jnek1127> doing that now TJ, thanks
[23:36] <stooped> jnek1127: are you just trying to recover your data first
[23:37] <jnek1127> stooped: i actually don't know if that's necessary or not. i can see my old folders and files, but my Mac just repeatedly tells me "this drive needs to be repaired and OS X can't do it" i ran ubuntu in hopes of reformatting it here. i guess i need to check if my files are ok. i can see them, but don't know if they're fine or not
[23:38] <jnek1127> tj: here's the pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8227774/
[23:39] <stooped> jnek1127: once you format it or change disk file format. You may as well kiss your old data good bye.
[23:40] <TJ-> jnek1127: Drives aren't reporting errors, so physically it looks OK
[23:42] <stooped> jnek1127: does Mac's have a recovery feature. It may be just a bad driver upgrade. In other words is the disk your boot disk and if so can it boot
[23:42] <Mussolini> is necessary install wine
[23:42] <Mussolini> tks all
[23:44] <jnek1127> stooped: it's just an external for storing files. i did fresh driver upgrade and that fixed it somewhat (it went from not showing up at all to being read only). i think reformatting will solve the whole issue
[23:44] <infinmed> 01000110 01101100 01101001 01100111 01101000 01110100 00100000 00110011 00110111 00110000 00100000 01010111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101110 01100101 01110110 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110101 01101110 01100100 00101110 00100000 01001001 01110100 01011100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101100 01110111 01100001 01111001 01110011 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100101 01101110
[23:44] <delinquentme> so I want to get an IP out of this JSON element... in bash:https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/b9558eb71530a87e27ff ... the first IP ... thoughts on the sipmlest way to do this?
[23:44] <infinmed> 01101001 01101110 01100111 00101100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100001 01100111 01100001 01101001 01101110 00101100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01100101 01101110 00100000 01101001 01100110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101011 01101110 01100101 01110111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01011100 00100111 01100100 00100000 01100010 01100101
[23:44] <infinmed> 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100100 01100101 01100001 01100100 00101110 00100000 01001011 01100101 01100101 01110000 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110110 01101001 01101110 01100111 00101110
[23:45] <mesopotamian> 01000110 01101100 01101001 01100111 01101000 01110100 00100000 00110011 00110111 00110000 00100000 01010111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101110 01100101 01110110 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110101 01101110 01100100 00101110 00100000 01001001 01110100 01011100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101100 01110111 01100001 01111001 01110011 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01100101 01101110
[23:45] <jnek1127> stooped: what's the quickest way to back up files? i got about 7 gigs of stuff on there that i need to store somewhere else in order to back up. i have room on this pc but the transfer proceses will likely take a while, so will creating a disk image be a good idea? i have never done it before nor do i know what it even means. i don't know this stuff at all
[23:46] <jnek1127> *in order to reformat
[23:46] <mesopotamian> 01101001 01101110 01100111 00101100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100001 01100111 01100001 01101001 01101110 00101100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01100101 01101110 00100000 01101001 01100110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101011 01101110 01100101 01110111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01011100 00100111 01100100 00100000 01100010 01100101
[23:47] <jnek1127> TJ: i never thanked you. that helps, cuz i couldn't understand that at all. i guess i still need to reformat though
[23:47] <mesopotamian> 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100100 01100101 01100001 01100100 00101110 00100000 01001011 01100101 01100101 01110000 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110110 01101001 01101110 01100111 00101110
[23:47] <stooped> jnek1127: I think you want to transfer files from your data disk to another data disk using ubuntu. May not work because ubuntu will read the disks but will not write to Mac formatted disks
[23:48] <jnek1127> stooped: hmmm ok that's interesting. if i reformat using ubuntu, will it give ubuntu copying permissions?
[23:48] <delinquentme> so I want to get an IP out of this JSON element... in bash:https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/b9558eb71530a87e27ff ... the first IP ... thoughts on the simplest way to do this?
[23:48] <JohnTalent> http://pastie.org/9525447
[23:48] <ObrienDave> jnek1127, you can also file copy to a USB stick
[23:49] <stooped> jnek1127: 7 gigs is not much. Usb3 thumb drive formatted exfat
[23:49] <jnek1127> i meant 700 gigs
[23:49] <jnek1127> sorry
[23:50] <ObrienDave> oh, only a 100x difference LOL
[23:50] <jnek1127> yeah, i guess i'm just gonna copy the files onto this pc and start from scratch with the whole external. i have two TBs on this baby
[23:51] <stooped> jnek1127: format the disk you want to copy files to either ntfs or fat32 then just do a simple copy paste
[23:52] <jnek1127> can i make an empty drive partition i have already larger using ubuntu? i shrunk it off the primary drive in windows but it's only 50 gigs
[23:52] <jnek1127> or should i go back to windows to do that
[23:53] <stooped> jnek1127: Macs are usually formatted hfs+ journalized. Use a more compatible format like fat32 for the new data disk
[23:54] <jnek1127> ok, sounds good, i'll do ntfs
[23:54] <jnek1127> what's the ubuntu app to do all this in?
[23:54] <stooped> jnek1127: fat32 is usually better for hard disks
[23:54] <stooped> jnek1127: fat32 is usually better for hard disks used as data disks
[23:55] <jnek1127> hm ok, and it's mac compatible? does that mean if i connect the Mac external to it it'll have permissions to copy and read files?
[23:56] <stooped> jnek1127: gparted
[23:57] <stooped> Yes fat32 is very compatible for data. Not good for operating systems though.
[23:58] <jnek1127> so this shouldn't be the drive i eventually install linux on?