| Noskcaj | bluesabre, Are you around? | 07:26 |
|---|---|---|
| brainwash | Noskcaj: hey, can you please mark bug 1014891 as won't fix (as per upstream status) | 08:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1014891 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop doesn't suspend when power is unplugged while lid is closed" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1014891 | 08:39 |
| Noskcaj | done | 09:02 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: thank you :) | 09:06 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, You should try and get bug control rights. it's not particularly hard | 09:11 |
| brainwash | thanks for reminding me >.< | 09:11 |
| brainwash | :P | 09:12 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: on more, bug 1013945 to low or wishlist even | 09:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1013945 in xfce4-power-manager "Let user select a time of less than 15 mins idle before going to sleep" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013945 | 09:24 |
| brainwash | that's it | 09:25 |
| Noskcaj | done | 09:30 |
| brainwash | awesome, thanks | 09:30 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: hey, what's up? | 09:41 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, Could you take a look at the exo rebuild bug? | 09:52 |
| Noskcaj | And what is your plan with the xfce 4.10/4.12 PPAs? | 09:52 |
| Noskcaj | I think we should try and have a PPA for backports like the 4.10 was, and use staging for what the 4.12 was | 09:53 |
| Noskcaj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/1308533 | 09:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1308533 in exo (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Non-english live-cd: some programs are in English although their name is in Non-english, and vice-versa" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:53 |
| Noskcaj | Lastly, could you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#Sean_Davis_.28bluesabre.29 to mention that you are the head of devel, etc. | 09:54 |
| bluesabre | updated your wiki page | 10:11 |
| bluesabre | we've been using xubuntu-staging for most of that, but it would make sense to throw release builds into the xfce-4.12 ppa | 10:12 |
| james0r | on 14.04 and looking to test xfce 4.12 out. is there a ppa for this yet? | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | daily builds of several components: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | (and some stable, not daily builds) | 10:42 |
| * bluesabre needs to fix the daily xfce4-settings package later | 10:42 | |
| bluesabre | not broken, but new builds are blocked since we merged something upstream | 10:43 |
| james0r | bluesabre, great i'll check it out. thx | 10:44 |
| brainwash | james0r: you should read http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ if you are interested in contributing | 10:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: "Stable" releases are nicer, though. | 10:46 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: yeah... suppose I'll update the PPAs later | 10:46 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:46 |
| Unit193 | I'd offer to help, but that'd be pointless. :P | 10:47 |
| james0r | brainwash, cool. bookmarking both right now for when i get back home. | 10:49 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:52 |
| bluesabre | thankfully we've uploaded most, so I can just backport them to the ppa | 10:52 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: bug 1349056 still makes me wonder, is there anything which needs to be fixed? misconfiguration caused by the user -> not a bug? | 10:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1349056 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager doesn't suspend on lid closed (regression)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1349056 | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: I'll work through that one with ochosi... there's a patch that needs to be applied to xfpm (see comment #5) | 10:55 |
| brainwash | the inverted logic? | 10:56 |
| bluesabre | yeah, this bit is confusing, but reviewing the code seems to indicate as such | 10:57 |
| brainwash | mmh, can we add https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11113 as bugwatch? | 10:58 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11113 in General "xfconf logind inhibit keys logic reverted" [Normal,New] | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | thats the one | 11:00 |
| james0r | how breaky is the xubuntu-staging ppa? | 11:00 |
| bluesabre | there's always a risk, but each of the projects stays in a mostly stable state consistently. I run it and update daily with no issues | 11:01 |
| james0r | bluesabre, okay cool. this machine isn't used for much, minor breakage ain't a big deal. | 11:02 |
| === ubott2 is now known as ubottu | ||
| bluesabre | brainwash: btw, I'd still not consider that bug a regression, it breaks a former workaround | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | but I might be wrong in that regard | 11:03 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: I just want to mark the report accordingly, if there is no bug in the xfce4-power-manager package -> invalid | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | its a gray area | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | leave it open for now | 11:05 |
| brainwash | ofc | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | and we can close it when the next xfpm release comes out with that patch (ochosi) | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: uploaded the rebuild package... I'll be out most of the day, so if possible, please field any questions | 11:12 |
| brainwash | should we discuss bug 1271169 at some point (meeting)? | 11:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1271169 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) " Let Xubuntu users disable/enable hibernation from Xfce Power Manager" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271169 | 11:12 |
| brainwash | it's just one of these reports which will stay open for an eternity | 11:13 |
| brainwash | and I cannot just close it | 11:13 |
| brainwash | normally I would, but it's penalvch who filed the report =S | 11:14 |
| bluesabre | poke ochosi with it | 11:15 |
| bluesabre | gotta run now, bbl | 11:15 |
| knome | brainwash, get the bugsquad membership. | 11:15 |
| knome | brainwash, how many times do i have to tell you this? :) | 11:16 |
| brainwash | it's bugcontrol | 11:18 |
| brainwash | how many times do i have to tell you this? :D | 11:18 |
| ali1234 | penalvch closes my bugs all the time :( | 11:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi does not like it when I subscribe him to "random" bug reports | 11:19 |
| brainwash | ali1234: uhm, did you talk to the ubuntu guys about thunar's incompatibility with unity-gtk-module? | 11:22 |
| ali1234 | no, i'll go and ask them now | 11:22 |
| brainwash | ok :) | 11:22 |
| ali1234 | okay, larsu is having a look :) | 11:26 |
| knome | brainwash, as many as i have to tell you to get a membership to it! | 11:33 |
| ali1234 | anyone got a system with unity and xfce installed? | 11:36 |
| knome | i'm sure somebody does... | 11:37 |
| ali1234 | bug 1310788 needs to be tested for reproducability on a system with xfce and unity installed | 11:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1310788 in unity-gtk-module (Ubuntu) "Thunar exists with segfault when accessing the context menu a second time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310788 | 11:43 |
| ali1234 | reporter didn't say if they are using xfce or have just installed thunar in unity or something | 11:43 |
| elfy | ali1234: I could possibly do that xfce/unity thing in a vm if that's of use | 12:51 |
| ali1234 | yes please | 12:51 |
| elfy | ok - I'll do it later today | 12:52 |
| elfy | what do I need to install though - ubuntu-desktop? | 12:52 |
| ali1234 | unity-gtk-module | 12:53 |
| ali1234 | you know, the usual suspects | 12:53 |
| elfy | okey doke - I'll set that off in a moment and check the bug later | 12:54 |
| elfy | well ... I don't know - I wouldn't know unity if it jumped up and bit me | 12:54 |
| elfy | ali1234: can't confirm that | 12:58 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 12:58 |
| ali1234 | i guess we wait for more info from the reporter then | 12:58 |
| elfy | but reading the bug report - it would seem they're using thunar in ubuntu | 12:58 |
| elfy | if I can garner enough interest I'll install ubuntu and thunar | 13:01 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu and thunar doesn't reproduce it - i tried that one | 13:05 |
| ali1234 | so reporter obviously has some relatively unique setup | 13:05 |
| elfy | well xubuntu + unity-gtk2/3-modules doesn't either | 13:06 |
| ali1234 | not completely unique though, we got quite a few crash reports, but they don't have much information | 13:06 |
| ali1234 | or it has to be a specific menu or possibly some locale thing | 13:06 |
| elfy | ali1234: yea - thunar seems to be good at that - I'll install -desktop in xubuntu seen what happens with that | 13:06 |
| elfy | off again now | 13:07 |
| Luyin | hi | 16:06 |
| elfy | hi Luyin | 16:06 |
| elfy | afternoon all | 16:06 |
| Luyin | elfy: my computer atm has free resources to do some testing. are there any test to do today? | 16:07 |
| elfy | Luyin: there are daily tests for 32 and 64 bit - daily :D | 16:09 |
| elfy | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/315/builds | 16:09 |
| Luyin | perfect, hehe ;) | 16:10 |
| slickymasterWork | hey elfy | 16:11 |
| === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| elfy | hi slickymasterWork | 16:12 |
| === paolo_ is now known as paolo | ||
| elfy | Luyin: seriously though, there are dailies - 7 days a week, they are generally updated by ~11:00 UTC, possibly before | 16:30 |
| elfy | the only times there are NOT dailies is if we have either stopped builds for milestones (alpha/beta's) or there is an issue with the build - in which case you'd see the last good build until we got a good new onw | 16:31 |
| Luyin | elfy: all right, then I'll try to do one every day if I can. more if I don't need my CPU :D | 16:31 |
| elfy | hope that helps | 16:31 |
| Luyin | how do I see if there is a build stop? are the build unavailable then? | 16:31 |
| elfy | no - there would be a build but it would have an 'old' date against it | 16:32 |
| Luyin | ah okay | 16:32 |
| Luyin | I've got a question here | 16:32 |
| Luyin | I'm just trying the "auto-resize" build | 16:32 |
| elfy | ok | 16:32 |
| elfy | hardware or virtual? | 16:32 |
| elfy | is the space actually large enough to take 2 installs? | 16:33 |
| Luyin | but since it's a fresh vm, I don't have an OS next to which xubu could be installed :D so I'm not exactly meeting the requirements to proceed, since I can't "Select Install Xubuntu XX.XX alongside SYSTEM YY " | 16:33 |
| Luyin | I guess your questions are answered with this, elfy | 16:33 |
| elfy | Luyin: when I'm doing the whole set I do this - in a 15Gb vbox | 16:34 |
| elfy | clean install, resize, manual | 16:34 |
| elfy | then you've got a clean install which you can resize :) | 16:34 |
| elfy | so if you've only got time to do one - do a clean | 16:34 |
| elfy | tomorrow - do a resize | 16:35 |
| elfy | does that make sense? | 16:35 |
| Luyin | yep, it does. so I'll just cancel this one and do a clean install instead today | 16:35 |
| elfy | yep - tomorrow you can do a resize on today's install :) | 16:36 |
| elfy | you know about zsync? | 16:36 |
| Luyin | zsync auto-updates my file if I run the command again, right? | 16:36 |
| elfy | if you zsync it yep | 16:36 |
| Luyin | yes I did this | 16:36 |
| Luyin | very handy :) | 16:36 |
| elfy | indeed it is :) | 16:36 |
| elfy | I've aliased them - lazy :p | 16:37 |
| Luyin | elfy: ctrl+r is my friend ;) | 16:38 |
| elfy | 64l is mine - or 32l ;) | 16:39 |
| elfy | ali1234: installed ubuntu-desktop in an updated utopic, started ubuntu - thunar - no crash if I right click a bunch of times - making sure there was no daemon, xfce and xubuntu desktop - same thing | 17:03 |
| ali1234 | elfy: thanks. hopefully attente can get to the bottom of it | 17:15 |
| elfy | do you want me to comment in thread as to what I've done for attente | 17:15 |
| elfy | or will it just be noise | 17:15 |
| ali1234 | probably just noise if you never managed to reproduce and the guy is using unity | 17:16 |
| elfy | yea | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | it's really down to reporter to give more details (or just post the damn crash dump already) | 17:16 |
| elfy | though if needed I could install unity and thunar | 17:16 |
| elfy | yea - just seen that | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | nah, i tried that already | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | and so did larsu | 17:17 |
| ali1234 | we couldn't repro | 17:17 |
| ali1234 | so there must be some third variable we don't know about | 17:17 |
| elfy | okey doke | 17:17 |
| elfy | well shout if there is anything I can do | 17:17 |
| brainwash | ali1234: aren't the hidden error reports helpful? | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | dunno. they're on the bug report anyway | 17:24 |
| ali1234 | there's only so much a backtrace can tell you, when dealing with dbus and gtk | 17:24 |
| ali1234 | but it would be good to at least confirm it is the same bug from e.u.c | 17:25 |
| brainwash | ok =S | 17:25 |
| Luyin | clean install ran perfectly. reporting in a mom | 17:54 |
| Luyin | reported | 18:00 |
| ochosi | thanks Luyin | 18:01 |
| Luyin | np ochosi | 18:01 |
| Luyin | doing the next one already ;) | 18:01 |
| ochosi | awesome | 18:02 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 18:08 |
| elfy | thanks Luyin :) | 18:08 |
| ochosi | hey elfy | 18:08 |
| Luyin | elfy: you're welcome. I wish I could do more, especially translations, but I'm running low on time atm ;/ | 18:09 |
| elfy | Luyin: everything that you do is appreciated | 18:10 |
| Luyin | elfy: I'm having strange behaviour again. how large is a raw, fresh xubuntu 14.10 install? | 18:17 |
| Luyin | might be my virtual partition is too small | 18:18 |
| elfy | installer tells you it wants 6.2Gb free space | 18:22 |
| Luyin | ok then this is my error. I'm off to dinner now, but going on later. c u | 18:23 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: can you please split the status of bug 1307251 into trusty/utopic? the last comment requested it | 18:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1307251 in xfdesktop "xfdesktop doesn't save the arrangement of desktop icons after a resolution change" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307251 | 18:29 |
| brainwash | we won't sru this stuff, it's just too minor | 18:30 |
| brainwash | but what about the micro release policy? | 18:30 |
| brainwash | however, backporting xfdesktop4 to trusty should be fine too, but I have no clue if this will have any success | 18:32 |
| dkessel | erm... what's the workaround again for "broken graphics on utopic daily installer"? | 18:34 |
| dkessel | in a vm.... | 18:35 |
| === holstein_ is now known as holstein | ||
| elfy | one that's black screen dkessel ? | 18:45 |
| elfy | if so F1/F7 works in vbox | 18:45 |
| dkessel | that was a pixelated, large, mouse cursor. background was black. i am now trying the image upgrade test | 18:46 |
| dkessel | elfy: right, if forgot i had to use <host key>+F1 to get vbox to send the key press to the guest. now running the image upgrade test... | 19:05 |
| Luyin | bbl | 19:19 |
| dkessel | omg the desktop guide seems long when you start translating it.... | 20:11 |
| elfy | took me no time at all to translate it into Australian ... | 20:12 |
| dkessel | meh | 20:16 |
| brainwash | use google translate? | 20:17 |
| brainwash | saves some time :> | 20:17 |
| === J21_ is now known as J21 | ||
| dkessel | ew | 20:23 |
| dkessel | ...and gives really nice results. have you ever played "translation party"? | 20:24 |
| dkessel | http://translationparty.com/ | 20:24 |
| brainwash | is google translate still that bad? | 20:24 |
| dkessel | no. but google is still no native speaker | 20:28 |
| brainwash | not yet | 20:34 |
| brainwash | I never bothered to start translating stuff, because usually there are enough german translators available | 20:36 |
| dkessel | I am done for today... | 20:58 |
| === knome_ is now known as knome | ||
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, I've started to put all the xubuntu apps into ppa:noskcaj/xubuntu , they could go into whatever our "supported" ppa is (Stuff that's stable enough for anyone to use) | 21:27 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: good work! :D | 23:06 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, ali1234: noticed these keys in xfwm4 conf... which one is the currently valid one? | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | <property name="dbl_click_time" type="int" value="400"/> | 23:50 |
| bluesabre | <property name="double_click_time" type="int" value="250"/> | 23:50 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!