[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[14:42]  * belkinsa hugs dholbach
[14:42] <belkinsa> Thanks for making that mailing list.  I always wanted one for the community side of things but never really asked.
[14:44]  * dholbach hugs belkinsa back :)
[14:47] <popey> \o/
[15:20] <cjohnston> @
[16:08] <dholbach> all right my friends - got to run - see you all tomorrow
[17:42] <pleia2> balloons: gonna nag you here now, want to chat about our talk some time? and any way I can be added to a speaker on the ubucon schedule with you?
[17:43] <pleia2> if I have 5 minutes for each of my 5 topics I'm good
[17:46] <balloons> pleia2, yes I intended to add some slides to what you have, covering the why's if you will. I assume we'll present for 35-40 mins and then chat about experiences for 10, with room for questions
[17:47] <balloons> pleia2, when I submitted I listed you as a speaker, with your bio ripped from scale
[17:47] <balloons> I'll followup with brian as to why you are not listed
[17:50] <pleia2> balloons: so refreshing my memory on my own slides, I can cover News, Documentation, Support and Advocacy if you want to do testing, my goal is to give people specific things they can do rather than being more generic, generic part is up to you, and if you want to talk about testing :)
[17:51] <balloons> pleia2, so let me finish my bits and we can sync after :-) Interesting thought on testing. You can cover it, since you are covering all those specifics. I assume I'll open with the generic stuff
[17:52] <balloons> I'm sure I'll talk about testing during the "experiences" portion
[17:52] <pleia2> wfm, thanks
[17:52] <bkerensa> :D
[17:53] <bkerensa> hopefully next week having tea with dholbach
[17:53] <bkerensa> \o/
[17:53] <mhall119> pleia2: balloons: jose: are you all willing to be part of the UbuCon panel at the end of Thursday?
[17:53]  * mhall119 knows it's no guarantee jose will be there
[17:53] <pleia2> mhall119: sure
[17:54] <pleia2> bkerensa: I never did see you at debconf, were you not there the later part of the week at all?
[17:54] <bkerensa> I went tango down
[17:54] <bkerensa> :s
[17:54] <bkerensa> got sick
[17:54] <pleia2> doh
[17:54] <bkerensa> then stuff got crazy last minute
[17:54] <bkerensa> :s
[17:54] <bkerensa> Was planning to come in Fri/Sat/Sun but had to go up to Washington
[17:55] <bkerensa> kind of been trying to get work sorted out before I head to Berlin next week so its been hectic
[17:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: I will be coming to SF soon we will catch up
[17:55] <bkerensa> :)
[17:55] <bkerensa> and now making it a top priority to go to an event near Paultag
[17:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: did you see Mako?
[17:55] <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't really know Mako
[17:56] <balloons> mhall119, yep
[17:56] <bkerensa> pleia2: he is a nice guy
[17:56] <bkerensa> IIRC he created the Community Council
[17:57] <bkerensa> and was Ubuntu's first Community Manager
[17:57] <pleia2> I know :) we were on the CC at the same time even, I just never got to know/meet him
[17:57] <bkerensa> hmm
[17:57] <bkerensa> he is mysterious
[17:57] <pleia2> our activities just didn't overlap much time-wise
[17:58] <bkerensa> pleia2: Was any other Ubuntu people there? I saw Colin Watson but that was about it
[17:59] <pleia2> I hung out with xnox some
[18:00] <pleia2> there were people wearing ubuntu shirts, but I don't think I knew many of them
[18:00] <pleia2> it was actually a fairly antisocial event for me :\
[18:01] <pleia2> mostly just stuck to paulproteus and paultag
[18:01] <pleia2> learning about their CI efforts was cool, but I'm just not involved like I once was, and am not willing to make the time to be involved again right now
[18:03]  * mhall119 wonders if you have to have a nick starting with 'paul' to hang out with pleia2 
[18:04] <pleia2> apparently :)
[18:06] <pleia2> (I actually want to hang out with everyone, but my shy hammer got in the way)
[18:18] <bkerensa> pleia2: shyhammer that deserves an urban dictionary entry I think
[18:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: btw next release party if you want to do Mozilla SF that would be awesome
[18:20] <pleia2> bkerensa: haha, it's just social anxiety, but making jokes about it makes it funny rather than being mental :)
[18:20] <elfy> heh
[18:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: indeed imagine my social anxiety next week being on a plane for 11 hours
[18:20] <bkerensa> :s
[18:20] <elfy> hi bkerensa
[18:20] <bkerensa> elfy: ello
[18:21] <pleia2> bkerensa: I won't be in town on release day, but I can forward that offer to the person who is hoping to do an event
[18:21] <bkerensa> pleia2: cool
[18:22] <pleia2> october 21st begins my traditional fall "weeks of enver being home" for this year
[18:22] <bkerensa> pleia2: I wish I had that
[18:22] <bkerensa> I have a problem saying no :s
[18:22] <pleia2> I don't :)
[18:23] <pleia2> conference, wedding, a little vacation somewhere to be determined, conference, wedding
[18:23] <bkerensa> I am actually booked till January at this point
[18:23] <bkerensa> :s
[18:23] <bkerensa> Berlin next week
[18:24] <bkerensa> then break.... December have Mozilla All Hands.... January going to Los Angeles again
[18:24] <bkerensa> oh and November CLSx
[18:24] <pleia2> after the openstack summit in november I'm pretty much done for the year
[18:25] <pleia2> and 2015 will be much calmer travel-wise
[18:25] <bkerensa> pleia2: scale?
[18:27] <pleia2> I need a new talk
[18:28] <mhall119> "The Shy Hammer"
[18:28] <bkerensa> LOL
[18:29] <pleia2> haha :)
[18:29] <mhall119> subtitle: "Why can I stand here in front of all of you and give a presentation, but casual conversation makes me nervous"
[18:29] <pleia2> it does actually have to do with $dayjob
[18:30]  * mhall119 is only half joking, that would be an interesting talk
[18:30] <pleia2> maybe I can do it as a side-talk when I have a proper talk accepted
[18:31] <bkerensa> I'm hoping to do a Firefox OS Apps Day at Scale next year if I go
[18:31] <bkerensa> maybe even a generic HTML5 apps days if I can convince mhall119 to go :)
[18:34] <mhall119> I'm not the one who'd need convincing
[18:35] <mhall119> I plan on tweaking my fossetcon presentation afterwards and submitting it for SCaLE though
[18:35] <bkerensa> mhall119: who needs convincing?
[18:35] <bkerensa> :)
[18:36] <mhall119> SCaLE approvers
[18:37] <popey> I'd love to go to SCaLE one day. So far away!
[18:37] <bkerensa> mhall119: oh they already want us back
[18:37] <bkerensa> :)
[18:37] <bkerensa> and plus for an apps day I imagine we would just pay them
[18:37] <bkerensa> :P
[18:37] <mhall119> bkerensa: I was talking about me, not you
[18:37] <bkerensa> popey: You would love it :)
[18:38] <bkerensa> popey: the nearby beaches alone are worth the trip
[18:38] <mhall119> is the new venue closer to the beach?
[18:39] <bkerensa> it was at LAX Hilton
[18:39] <bkerensa> I just took Uber to Santa Monica
[18:39] <bkerensa> about 15 mins by cab
[18:39] <bkerensa> Uber*
[18:39] <mhall119> ah, Uber wasn't around when I went, and I was warned not to use the subways
[18:39] <bkerensa> But at night time traffic is not the win
[18:40] <popey> which reminds me
[18:40] <jose> mhall119: I'd love to do it!
[18:40]  * popey installs a system update on his firefox flame
[18:40] <bkerensa> ultimately unless you want to eat hilton food.... you really have go to Santa Monica or somewhere
[18:40] <pleia2> we took Uber to Beverly Hills last time, it was lovely :)
[18:41] <pleia2> or Denny's, Carls' Jr, Taco Bell...
[18:41] <bkerensa> popey: uhh maybe not a good idea
[18:41] <bkerensa> oh looks like the tree is green now
[18:42]  * mhall119 ate subway and Jack-in-the-box last time :(
[18:42] <bkerensa> popey: are you using it as your daily driver?
[18:42] <popey> nope
[18:42] <bkerensa> mhall119: I did carls jr for two meals and said screw this
[18:43] <bkerensa> There is this nice Indian and Sushi place in Santa Monica... Spendy but so good
[18:43] <mhall119> this was in ~2008 I think, my wife and I flew out on our own dime
[18:43] <bkerensa> :s
[18:47] <bkerensa> mhall119: you going to fossetcon?
[18:56] <mhall119> bkerensa: yes
[18:57] <jose> pleia2: fixing meetingology
[18:57] <pleia2> jose: thanks :)