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pittiGood morning05:05
didrocksmorning05:52
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pittihey seb128 et didrocks, comment allez-vous ?07:02
didrockspitti: ça va très bien ! et toi ?07:02
pittididrocks: ça va bien aussi !07:02
pittij'attends avec impatience recontrer dans DC !07:02
seb128good morning desktopers07:02
seb128hey pitti didrocks, wie gehts?07:02
pittiseb128: prima, danke!07:03
didrockspitti: moi de même !07:03
seb128pitti, do you take extra days to visit?07:03
pittiseb128: I'll arrange to arrive on Saturday, and will leave on Friday night07:03
pittiso, Sunday is tourism07:03
seb128pitti, don't fancy coming e.g on friday?07:03
pittiseb128: I can't arrive any earlier -- I only arrive back home on Friday night before from LinuxCon/Plumbers07:03
seb128hum, k07:04
pittiso, some hours of sleep and get fresh clothing and off to the airport again..07:04
didrockspitti: I can't arrive earlier than Sunday for me, coming (almost directly) from Japan07:04
pittididrocks: ah, will you fly directly from Japan, or go home in between (that'd be a lot longer..)07:04
didrockspitti: go home in between (back on Friday, concert on Saturday and leaving really early on Sunday)07:05
pittididrocks: urgh..07:05
didrockspitti: well, if we didn't get sprint confirmation at the last minute…07:05
pittiI guess the alternative would be to arrive on Sunday and do the touristy bits on the Saturday afterwards, and return on Sunday07:05
didrocksyep07:05
pittididrocks: yeah I know..07:05
pittiless preferred to me as it makes the jetlag thing a lot worse07:05
pittior take the Saturday night 22:00 flight07:06
pittiI was going to leave Friday 22:00, so that I still have half a weekend to recover07:06
willcooketkamppeter_, can you take a quick look at this one:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/135231607:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1352316 in HPLIP "HP 8610 All In One Duplex Printing Issue in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]07:26
willcookeand see if there is anything we can do?07:26
willcookemorning all08:05
willcookeSorry I was missing for most of yesterday, the wifi in the office is really patchy08:05
willcookeHad some good meetings with Richard the Product Manager for phone about 16.04 and convergence etc08:06
seb128hey willcooke08:06
seb128great08:06
seb128does that result in much new work for us? ;-)08:06
willcookeYeah, we should have a reasonable road map roughed out and then we can apply polish in DC08:07
willcookenew work for us, not tooooo much.  At this time the majority if on Mir & U808:07
didrockshey willcooke!08:07
willcookewe should perhaps move Gtk backend for Mir up our priorities list a bit, but I know robert_ancell and desrt are already working on ut08:08
willcookeit08:08
seb128right08:10
willcookeand we should probably look at the Gtk backend for Libre Office a bit more as well08:11
willcookeoh08:11
willcookein other news08:11
willcookeerm - darn.  I got distracted and now I've forgotten :/08:12
willcookeoh ye08:12
willcookes08:12
willcookeso I spoke to kgunn yesterday08:12
willcookeHe's asking the U8/Mir guys to get that kbd bug fixed asap08:13
willcooke\o/08:13
seb128great!08:15
seb128libreoffice on gtk3 you mean?08:15
seb128Sweetsha1k probably know the status of that, but it's a more than 1 man effort/needs to be done upstream (it's being worked on, not sure how much is remaining though)08:16
willcookeseb128, @ LO - yes.  I think we might need to help out with that effort to get it done in time.  Of course, that might not be realistic, but we can talk more in DC08:17
seb128k08:17
mvo_seb128: I ran into a gtk3 build failure (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/184002024/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.gtk%2B3.0_3.12.2-0ubuntu6.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz)  during the tests: "(/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.12.2/debian/build/shared/testsuite/gtk/.libs/lt-builder:16396): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.08:19
mvo_FAIL" is that a known issue?08:19
seb128mvo_, I guess it is08:20
seb128I didn't know that was making the build fail though08:21
seb128mvo_, the warning comes from https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=d0e706178584d2251b11f71321cdbfee5af0484708:21
seb128glib now warns about use of deprecated properties08:21
seb128which make it easier to nothing you use something deprecated08:21
seb128but I guess gtk fails build on warnings?08:21
mvo_I don't know, haven't inspected that08:22
seb128Laney, larsu, desrt, ^ I don't guess you discussed that one before?08:22
mvo_its "Makefile:1308: recipe for target 'check' failed08:22
mvo_make[3]: *** [check] Error 208:22
mvo_make[3]: Leaving directory '/bui" that fails08:22
seb128mvo_, if you want to fix it, patches are welcome ;-)08:23
larsuhm, this shouldn't make tests fail08:24
mvo_there are a bunch of "FAIL" now in the buildlog08:24
seb128well, maybe that's a red herring?08:24
mvo_seb128: could be08:25
larsuFAIL is what gtester prints on failure, so I don't think so08:25
larsugive me a sec to run them08:25
larsumvo_: I see this as well, but for textbuffer08:32
larsuI wonder if the warning is actually the thing that makes the test fail08:32
mvo_larsu: yeah, I see it for textbuffer too08:35
larsuah okay, it is because of those warnings08:37
mvo_larsu: so you have it under control :) ? \o/08:38
larsumvo_: yep. I think I found the issue: the tests set those properties even though they're deprecated08:38
larsuand those seem to be fixed in master08:40
didrocksargh, coverage report is working on virtualenv, but not with our system version :(08:44
* didrocks was fighting against it for a while, not understand why it stopped working…08:44
didrocksunderstanding*08:44
didrockshowever, most of versions are exactly the same (at least, the one which counts)08:45
didrocksmaybe one of our patch…08:45
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tkamppeterwillcooke, I cannot access the PDF file in the meeting invitations.09:13
willcooketkamppeter, I just updated the sharing perms, can you check again?09:14
didrocksok, it's our python version which is screwed09:15
willcookehappyaron, FJKong - there is a community event coming up with Kylin.  Just waiting on more details, but could be good fun.  I'll let you know more details asap.09:16
willcookepopey, is dpm off atm?09:16
popeywillcooke: he's on vacation till next week09:20
tkamppeterwillcooke, now it works, thank you.09:20
willcooketkamppeter, coolio09:20
willcookepopey, kk. no worries.  There is a community event happening in China, I wanted to make sure he is in the loop.  I'll email him....09:21
tkamppeterwillcooke, I will look into the bug you mentioned earlier today.09:23
willcookethanks tkamppeter09:26
willcookepopey, ^^^^]09:26
popeythanks!09:27
willcookehttp://beijinglug.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=723:software-freedom-day-2092014-call-for-topics&catid=11:upcoming-events&Itemid=1409:46
willcookedidrocks, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Wants-to-Be-the-Best-Development-Platform-for-Android-Apps-457418.shtml10:29
didrockswillcooke: excellent! thanks for sharing10:31
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seb128kenvandine, hey13:05
kenvandinehey seb12813:05
seb128kenvandine, do you plan to make the current u-s-s land in the rtm channel as well? ;-)13:05
kenvandinei sure hope :)13:05
kenvandineit fixes bugs that kept it from syncing to rtm before13:05
seb128kenvandine, fixes for bugs keep it from going to rtm?13:10
seb128that doesn't seem logicalk13:10
kenvandineno... fixes for the bugs that made it fail QA last week13:11
kenvandinefixes landed last night... so hopefully it'll pass qa now13:11
seb128great13:11
seb128what's the process to ask for the current version to go to rtm?13:12
seb128just use the landing ask gdoc and wait for qa testing?13:12
kenvandinei just asked in the ci channel13:12
kenvandinethere is a the old silo that failed QA13:12
kenvandinei think i can just rebuild it13:12
kenvandineit includes unity813:12
seb128kenvandine, what ci channel?13:13
seb128not -ci-eng?13:13
kenvandineyeah13:14
seb128not? which one then? ;-)13:14
kenvandineubuntu-ci-eng :)13:14
seb128kenvandine, saw it now13:25
seb128kenvandine, btw, the bug about making the background panel display the apps-list is on your todo right? is that some work or only a flag to set?13:26
kenvandineoh... not on my list13:26
kenvandinea little work13:26
kenvandinegotta add the peer picker component13:26
seb128kenvandine, bug #1356542 is assigned to you ;-)13:27
ubot5bug 1356542 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "picking background image should use Content Hub's peer picker" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135654213:27
kenvandineseb128, i see your branch removing the dash settings, is that because dash settings in the dash has landed?13:27
seb128kenvandine, no, because the current design doesn't have that section and it doesn't work well (like online video are still listed when toggling it, I don't think they made new scopes arch respect that setting)13:28
kenvandinewe were leaving that until there was a setting in the dash for it13:28
kenvandinebut if it isn't used anyway... maybe we should just whack it13:29
kenvandinepmcgowan ^^13:29
pmcgowankenvandine, it used to work for sure, hve not tried recently13:30
pmcgowankenvandine, HO now13:30
seb128kenvandine, well, it's not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone at least13:31
seb128kenvandine, but fine to keep the mr up until we wants to land it13:32
pmcgowanseb128, yeah we just waited to see it in scope settings13:32
pmcgowanif it doesnt work anyway seems moot13:32
seb128well, it has some effects13:32
seb128like music scope was empty after I toggled it13:32
seb128but I still had youtube videos13:32
seb128let me try again13:33
seb128right, still doing that13:34
seb128click store lists also content with that set to "local only"13:39
seb128some others like wikipedia, music, weather seems to respect it13:39
seb128if that setting is intended to work maybe the right thing would be to open a bug on e.g the music scope13:39
pmcgowanseb128, as music is an aggregator, the sub-scopes seem to be the ones not observing it, but seems each scope sholdnt need to, the api should do it13:51
seb128pmcgowan, right, is that something for thostr?13:53
pmcgowanseb128, yes13:54
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desrtseb128: don't revert the commit introducing the warnings, please14:07
desrtseb128: i gave another patch that is a one-liner that will disable them just as well14:07
desrtbut we also might consider dialing the warning down to a message14:08
desrtstill displayed, but will not interfere with tests14:08
seb128k14:08
seb128that works for me14:08
seb128still going to spam my stdout when using gedit though :/14:08
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CimiI have several issues in gtk2 apps14:54
Cimiusing nvidia and utopic14:54
Cimirendering issues everywhere14:55
Cimidid anyone experience the same?14:55
didrockswillcooke: congrats for your new recognition :)15:00
seb128Cimi, no similar report afaik15:02
seb128pitti, what was the issues with langpacks/missing domains?15:03
pittiseb128: as I said, I don't know; perhaps I accidentally used an upstream tarball for creating fresh touch langpacks15:04
seb128oh ok, I saw you closed the bug, so I though you figured it out15:04
seb128so you just did a new export and it worked?15:04
pittiseb128: and there was a bug in langpack-o-matic that didn't update changelogs and thus prevented uploads15:04
pittiseb128: yes, 1:14.10+20140903 is complete again15:05
seb128great15:06
pittiseb128: I'll copy them to RTM  as soon as they are propagated to utopic15:07
seb128pitti, danke15:09
kenvandineseb128, any idea why lightdm just stopped working?  any known bugs?  basically no errors... it just never even tries to start X15:17
kenvandineswitching to gdm worked...15:17
seb128kenvandine, see #ubuntu-devel15:17
kenvandineah15:17
kenvandinethx...15:17
kenvandinethat bit me... and of course i fixated on it being nvidia related :)15:18
kenvandinebut it wasn't...15:18
seb128kenvandine, is the dialer-app supposed to respect the "dialpad sound" toggle?16:18
kenvandineseb128, not yet :)16:20
kenvandineit's in the works16:20
seb128shrug16:20
kenvandinei think...16:20
seb128is there a bug to track that work?16:20
seb128kenvandine, why did we make the settings UI visible if it's not working?16:20
seb128kenvandine, I didn't find any bug/vcs about that16:20
kenvandinei think it would be telephony-service16:21
mvo_hm, so my Xorg is at 100% when started via lightdm (1.11.7) - however when I start it via startx its all good, no unusual cpu. is that a known utopic issue? tryed a different greeter, same result16:22
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seb128willcooke_, do you know if Sweetsha1k is supposed to be online/working this week?16:51
seb128I see him responding to email but he doesn't seem to be on IRC16:51
willcooke_seb128, He's at the Libre Office conf16:51
seb128willcooke_, right, the question still stand ;-)16:52
seb128is he on vac/away days, or still supposed to be around?16:52
* seb128 drops an email, might be easier16:52
willcooke_yeah, was going to say I expect he'll get email, but IRC I wouldn't expect16:52
seb128k, wfm16:52
seb128I just wanted to know if I should expect to be able to get a reply to an email by eow16:53
seb128or go with a plan B for the issue doko pinged about16:53
seb128I'm going to write the email and see tomorrow depending if he replied by then or not16:53
willcooke_seb128, kk, let me know if you need me to chase via SMS or something16:55
seb128willcooke_, no, it's not that urgent, it's about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libixion/+bug/134985916:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1349859 in libixion (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libixion (b-d of liborcus)" [Undecided,Incomplete]16:56
seb128it's not the first time doko ping about it16:56
willcooke_kk16:56
seb128not sure if it just fall into the cracks or something16:56
seb128I wrote an email to Bjoern, should be good enough16:56
willcooke_coolio16:56
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seb128yw!16:56
seb128on that note, I'm calling it a day16:56
seb128have a good evening everyone16:56
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