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vinnyhello my name is vinny im very new to unbuntu linux can some one answer some questions i have about how to intall this program on another hard drive?02:22
popeyvinny: picked a bad time for asking questions here. everyone is asleep02:25
popeytry in #ubuntu02:25
TheOpenSourcererMorning all. WTF has happened to 14.04? Since an update this morning the system has gone really sloooow. Compiz chewing up > 170% cpu, load avg > 4... Oh, and the sound applet in the top bar has disappeared too.07:26
TheOpenSourcererHappy days :-(07:26
SuperMattI don't know. I moved to gnome-shell so I don't have compiz running07:28
diploTheOpenSourcerer, mine as well07:28
diploXorg using a fair bit of CPU as well07:28
TheOpenSourcererFFS07:29
SuperMattgnome smell seems to offer me a more consistant experience across all my devices07:29
TheOpenSourcererCan we still drop back to a lighter Unity desktop?07:29
SuperMattgnome-session-fallback might be useful07:29
DJonesTheOpenSourcerer: I saw a comment by bigcalm that he'd had to reboot his desktop for some reason, don't know if that was the same, but I decided to hold off on updates last night07:31
TheOpenSourcerertime to logout and try fallback07:36
TheOpenSourcererNot quite as pretty but it's working. Thanks07:38
TheOpenSourcererIt's got that menu thing at the top too! Remeber that?07:39
TheOpenSourcererNow there's something called deja-dup-monito consuming 120% cpu?07:42
directhexpresumably it's md5summing all the things07:42
TheOpenSourcererFFS - Seems like Ubuntu got something badly wrong in the last update. Great load avg no 7... :-(07:43
TheOpenSourcererTime to go and get a coffee and see if it calms down07:44
TheOpenSourcererOh goody - all calm now07:46
Myrttisometimes I do feel quite fortunate in the fact that Dell and Canonical have disabled upgrading to 14.04 for me07:47
foobarry_wonders why p-pey was on irc at 3.25am ..unless he is far west of UK08:20
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knightwisemorning foobarry08:23
foobarryo/08:23
directhexfoobarry: the sun never sets on the empire!08:23
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Newspaper Carrier Day! :-D08:25
foobarrycan someone pls remind me how to add another nick in freenode ?08:25
foobarryto join it to my current nick08:26
JamesTaitfoobarry, /msg nickserv help register08:26
DJonesfoobarry: Point 6 on this website http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode08:27
JamesTaitfoobarry, actually, I think you want group, not register.08:27
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awilkinsfoobarry_, do /msg nickserv help08:29
foobarry_thanks, i got it08:29
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foobarrywas annoying because one chan doesn't let you change from nick2 to your current nick if it isn't registered08:30
knightwisehmm .. lii08:30
knightwiselooking forward to getting a new laptop for the misses .. That will free up the 11 inch Mb Air for my Linux excapades08:31
foobarrymy boy has an open source scooter http://i.imgur.com/AHJ066q.jpg08:33
foobarryanother boy at the park took his stickers off so i gave him ubuntu sticker sheet08:33
knightwiseoooh .. those exist ?08:34
foobarryyes. the "super" key on all my keybaords has the ubuntu key now08:35
knightwisecool .. where can you get them ?08:35
foobarrygot mine free at an event08:35
foobarryhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/ubuntu-stickered-my-keyboard-finally-gets-ubuntuized08:36
foobarryhttp://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=71808:36
foobarrysorry first one is wrong link08:36
foobarrygood quality stickers08:36
DJonesknightwise: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-August/037838.html Might be of interest as well08:43
knightwiseThanx :) DJones ... looks like i'll have to send a stamped envelope i presume ?08:46
DJonesknightwise: I would assume so, maybe drop them an email first08:46
DJonesNot sure which stickers they have, so might be worth asking for a scan/image of them before ordering08:47
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:47
popeyhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/04/ubuntu_14_10_betas/?page=208:50
popey08:50
foobarryi look forward to wallpapers of unicorns riding on rainbows08:51
DJonesThat Ubuntu Mate screenshot looks the spitting image of old gnome08:54
foobarrydidn't realise what a difference a  poor scrollwheel makes09:02
foobarrycompute feels fast now09:02
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popeyDJones: kinda the point ㋛09:03
knightwisehahah :)09:13
knightwiseGiant Dalek 'To Victory" poster arrived for the office :)09:13
foobarryno yum installed on this centos server :(10:05
davmor2foobarry: no they use a new tool now :)10:09
davmor2foobarry: try pirut I think I'm pretty sure I saw something about it anyway10:11
foobarryi think the person provisioning the server screwed up10:22
foobarrywill have to rpm -i yum.rpm10:23
diploNeed sqlite and python-sqlite from memory foobarry10:28
diploin case they're not installed10:28
foobarry"think i will delegate10:29
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:16
* penguin42 yawns at bigcalm11:19
davmor2bigcalm: morning how did it go last night?11:29
bigcalmdavmor2: went well. Me, Ron, Alex, Chris, Ad, Simon & Sam. And we talked about Linux things all damn evening11:30
bigcalmI think that's pretty rare11:30
davmor2adam was there and you talked about Linux that must be a record11:31
knightwisehmm.. i'm gonna try to see if i can install OSX in a virtualbox VM .. on a Mac Mini running Ubuntu.11:31
directhexknightwise: not easily. virtualbox has no usable efi implementation, which makes installing osx tricks11:35
awilkinsAlso, does OSX have any drivers for the virtual devices?11:38
awilkinsI thought part of the charm of OSX was that it only works on Mac hardware by design11:38
awilkinsWhich means it has a limited pool of device drivers11:38
directhexvmware fusion, and parallels, can both virtualise osx on osx11:39
awilkinsPresumably by just using the thinnest of shims on the real hardware11:40
knightwiseah but that is the kick .. it IS running on mac hardware ,11:40
knightwisebut the host os is linux instead of osx11:40
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awilkinsDon't know enough about BSD vs Linux driver interfaces11:41
awilkinsBut I'm guessing they might be different11:41
awilkinsAnd no idea if VBox makes any attempt to replicate the hardware you're sat on - AFAIK it has a selection of emulated hardware that looks like common devices11:42
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MyrttiI hate all CMS'es. That is all.12:04
foobarry+112:05
shaunoI think virtualbox should run OSX now?  at least in Oracle's version, I can't say for OSE12:06
shauno(but when it gives you the choice between osx-32bit and -64bit, never select 32bit.  It goes horribly wrong.  imho that option shouldn't exist)12:06
shauno(10.6 is the last version that'll run on a 32bit processor.  10.7 is the first version that'll run in a VM without an osx-server licence. the combination of these two isn't pretty)12:08
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SuperMattshauno: does that mean I'll be able to run OSX in virtualbox?12:12
ali1234OSC can't run on AMD CPUs though, right?12:29
ali1234*OSX12:30
shaunoSuperMatt: I believe so, yes12:36
bigcalmMyrtti: WP not fitting the bill? It's what I used for my wedding site12:42
Myrttibigcalm: might, I haven't looked into how the multi language support goes nowadays though12:42
bigcalmMyrtti: apparently WP is really quite mature now. ML support is good12:43
Myrttiif dsample weren't adamant on his demand on having the site in Finnish, I'd just slap the whole thing on Google Sites and call it a day12:43
bigcalmHeh12:43
bigcalmAww, you not doing Sweedish as well?12:43
Myrttiwhat I specifically don't have time and patience for is to wait for him to code a thing with Ruby from scratch12:43
bigcalmUgh12:43
Myrttibecause ain't nobody got time for that12:44
bigcalmUse WP ;)12:44
Myrttithe website issue is basically the reason why the wedding planning had a two year hiatus as is12:44
bigcalmI started writing my own photo booth application in python. It got abandoned and I ended up using an app on an android tablet12:44
MyrttiI got frustrated in trying to get things first the way I wanted it, then gave up when I realised it would never be good enough for him12:44
bigcalmo.O12:44
Myrttiapp on an android tablet?12:45
Myrttiplease tell me more.12:45
bigcalmUm, one mo12:46
bigcalmMyrtti: I used this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.groundupworks.partyphotobooth&hl=en_GB12:46
Myrttiah right.12:48
MyrttiD might whip up something with a Raspberry Pi and a Canon camera that can be controlled with gphoto2.12:48
bigcalmHehe12:50
bigcalmThat's exactly what I wrote12:50
bigcalmHe's welcome to carry on with what I started12:50
Myrttido you have it in github?12:50
Myrttior somewhere?12:50
bigcalmMyrtti: https://github.com/bigcalm/python_photo_booth12:50
Myrttiha!12:50
bigcalmThe idea is that you have a webcam for lining up the shot and then a DSLR for taking a good photo12:51
MyrttiI might nag him into looking that today12:52
bigcalmI found that the RPi wasn't powerful enough to give a responsive user experience. But the touch screen I bought works with a laptop with HDMI and USB.12:54
bigcalmStill didn't have the energy to finish it in time, hence the android app12:54
bigcalmWhen is the wedding?12:54
MyrttiIf I don't have a total meltdown before it, at the moment it looks like February12:55
Myrttistarted looking at venues and celebrants and photographers two weeks ago.12:56
switchtehbeatanyone here who have virgin media as their ISP and know about download/legal issues? I could do with your help. :)12:57
Myrttivenue will confirm which of the two possible weekends it might be in February, photographer and celebrant already confirmed both are ok.12:58
Myrttiwell, that was... patient12:59
bigcalmOur photographer was Tony Whitmore. His availability dictated when we got married :)13:00
bigcalmHaving three quarters of the Ubuntu Podcast at our wedding was fun13:01
Myrttihehe, yeah, we'll probably get the guy who did my mums funeral photography (yes it's a thing in Finland)13:01
bigcalmGoodness13:03
penguin42I guess they don't need to be that good at action shots13:03
Myrttihe's actually pretty good for what I can see. People seem to have always had photos taken at funerals (any family occasion, really) so we got a photographer to take some photos so the people wouldn't need to do it themselves.13:05
Myrttimy cousin mucked that idea up by blocking the paid cameraman while taking photos with her small pocket point and shoot though, on a few shots :-|13:05
Myrttihttp://tommikappi.com/portfolio/dokumentaarinen_haakuvaus/13:08
foobarryhow do i ask dnsmasq what dns server it is using?13:12
SuperMattI think you might need to bribe it13:14
SuperMattI hear it's partial to neopolitan icecream13:14
foobarryi have haribo13:14
SuperMattthat might work13:14
SuperMattI can't guarantee anything though13:14
Myrttiooh haribo13:17
foobarry72p atm in sainsburys13:18
foobarrymy son wants this for chrimstas http://www.instructables.com/id/8-Bit-Mario-Blanket-Made-from-Granny-Squares/13:19
Myrttiooooohhhh http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/multi-device-keyboard-k48014:03
penguin42looks like a z8814:04
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