[02:22] <vinny> hello my name is vinny im very new to unbuntu linux can some one answer some questions i have about how to intall this program on another hard drive?
[02:25] <popey> vinny: picked a bad time for asking questions here. everyone is asleep
[02:25] <popey> try in #ubuntu
[07:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning all. WTF has happened to 14.04? Since an update this morning the system has gone really sloooow. Compiz chewing up > 170% cpu, load avg > 4... Oh, and the sound applet in the top bar has disappeared too.
[07:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> Happy days :-(
[07:28] <SuperMatt> I don't know. I moved to gnome-shell so I don't have compiz running
[07:28] <diplo> TheOpenSourcerer, mine as well
[07:28] <diplo> Xorg using a fair bit of CPU as well
[07:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> FFS
[07:29] <SuperMatt> gnome smell seems to offer me a more consistant experience across all my devices
[07:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> Can we still drop back to a lighter Unity desktop?
[07:29] <SuperMatt> gnome-session-fallback might be useful
[07:31] <DJones> TheOpenSourcerer: I saw a comment by bigcalm that he'd had to reboot his desktop for some reason, don't know if that was the same, but I decided to hold off on updates last night
[07:36] <TheOpenSourcerer> time to logout and try fallback
[07:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not quite as pretty but it's working. Thanks
[07:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's got that menu thing at the top too! Remeber that?
[07:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> Now there's something called deja-dup-monito consuming 120% cpu?
[07:42] <directhex> presumably it's md5summing all the things
[07:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> FFS - Seems like Ubuntu got something badly wrong in the last update. Great load avg no 7... :-(
[07:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Time to go and get a coffee and see if it calms down
[07:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh goody - all calm now
[07:47] <Myrtti> sometimes I do feel quite fortunate in the fact that Dell and Canonical have disabled upgrading to 14.04 for me
[08:20] <foobarry_> wonders why p-pey was on irc at 3.25am ..unless he is far west of UK
[08:23] <knightwise> morning foobarry
[08:23] <foobarry> o/
[08:23] <directhex> foobarry: the sun never sets on the empire!
[08:25] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Newspaper Carrier Day! :-D
[08:25] <foobarry> can someone pls remind me how to add another nick in freenode ?
[08:26] <foobarry> to join it to my current nick
[08:26] <JamesTait> foobarry, /msg nickserv help register
[08:27] <DJones> foobarry: Point 6 on this website http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[08:27] <JamesTait> foobarry, actually, I think you want group, not register.
[08:29] <awilkins> foobarry_, do /msg nickserv help
[08:29] <foobarry_> thanks, i got it
[08:30] <foobarry> was annoying because one chan doesn't let you change from nick2 to your current nick if it isn't registered
[08:30] <knightwise> hmm .. lii
[08:31] <knightwise> looking forward to getting a new laptop for the misses .. That will free up the 11 inch Mb Air for my Linux excapades
[08:33] <foobarry> my boy has an open source scooter http://i.imgur.com/AHJ066q.jpg
[08:33] <foobarry> another boy at the park took his stickers off so i gave him ubuntu sticker sheet
[08:34] <knightwise> oooh .. those exist ?
[08:35] <foobarry> yes. the "super" key on all my keybaords has the ubuntu key now
[08:35] <knightwise> cool .. where can you get them ?
[08:35] <foobarry> got mine free at an event
[08:36] <foobarry> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/ubuntu-stickered-my-keyboard-finally-gets-ubuntuized
[08:36] <foobarry> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
[08:36] <foobarry> sorry first one is wrong link
[08:36] <foobarry> good quality stickers
[08:43] <DJones> knightwise: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-August/037838.html Might be of interest as well
[08:46] <knightwise> Thanx :) DJones ... looks like i'll have to send a stamped envelope i presume ?
[08:46] <DJones> knightwise: I would assume so, maybe drop them an email first
[08:47] <DJones> Not sure which stickers they have, so might be worth asking for a scan/image of them before ordering
[08:47] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:50] <popey> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/04/ubuntu_14_10_betas/?page=2
[08:50] <popey> ☻
[08:51] <foobarry> i look forward to wallpapers of unicorns riding on rainbows
[08:54] <DJones> That Ubuntu Mate screenshot looks the spitting image of old gnome
[09:02] <foobarry> didn't realise what a difference a  poor scrollwheel makes
[09:02] <foobarry> compute feels fast now
[09:03] <popey> DJones: kinda the point ㋛
[09:13] <knightwise> hahah :)
[09:13] <knightwise> Giant Dalek 'To Victory" poster arrived for the office :)
[10:05] <foobarry> no yum installed on this centos server :(
[10:09] <davmor2> foobarry: no they use a new tool now :)
[10:11] <davmor2> foobarry: try pirut I think I'm pretty sure I saw something about it anyway
[10:22] <foobarry> i think the person provisioning the server screwed up
[10:23] <foobarry> will have to rpm -i yum.rpm
[10:28] <diplo> Need sqlite and python-sqlite from memory foobarry
[10:28] <diplo> in case they're not installed
[10:29] <foobarry> "think i will delegate
[11:16] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:19]  * penguin42 yawns at bigcalm
[11:29] <davmor2> bigcalm: morning how did it go last night?
[11:30] <bigcalm> davmor2: went well. Me, Ron, Alex, Chris, Ad, Simon & Sam. And we talked about Linux things all damn evening
[11:30] <bigcalm> I think that's pretty rare
[11:31] <davmor2> adam was there and you talked about Linux that must be a record
[11:31] <knightwise> hmm.. i'm gonna try to see if i can install OSX in a virtualbox VM .. on a Mac Mini running Ubuntu.
[11:35] <directhex> knightwise: not easily. virtualbox has no usable efi implementation, which makes installing osx tricks
[11:38] <awilkins> Also, does OSX have any drivers for the virtual devices?
[11:38] <awilkins> I thought part of the charm of OSX was that it only works on Mac hardware by design
[11:38] <awilkins> Which means it has a limited pool of device drivers
[11:39] <directhex> vmware fusion, and parallels, can both virtualise osx on osx
[11:40] <awilkins> Presumably by just using the thinnest of shims on the real hardware
[11:40] <knightwise> ah but that is the kick .. it IS running on mac hardware ,
[11:40] <knightwise> but the host os is linux instead of osx
[11:41] <awilkins> Don't know enough about BSD vs Linux driver interfaces
[11:41] <awilkins> But I'm guessing they might be different
[11:42] <awilkins> And no idea if VBox makes any attempt to replicate the hardware you're sat on - AFAIK it has a selection of emulated hardware that looks like common devices
[12:04] <Myrtti> I hate all CMS'es. That is all.
[12:05] <foobarry> +1
[12:06] <shauno> I think virtualbox should run OSX now?  at least in Oracle's version, I can't say for OSE
[12:06] <shauno> (but when it gives you the choice between osx-32bit and -64bit, never select 32bit.  It goes horribly wrong.  imho that option shouldn't exist)
[12:08] <shauno> (10.6 is the last version that'll run on a 32bit processor.  10.7 is the first version that'll run in a VM without an osx-server licence. the combination of these two isn't pretty)
[12:12] <SuperMatt> shauno: does that mean I'll be able to run OSX in virtualbox?
[12:29] <ali1234> OSC can't run on AMD CPUs though, right?
[12:30] <ali1234> *OSX
[12:36] <shauno> SuperMatt: I believe so, yes
[12:42] <bigcalm> Myrtti: WP not fitting the bill? It's what I used for my wedding site
[12:42] <Myrtti> bigcalm: might, I haven't looked into how the multi language support goes nowadays though
[12:43] <bigcalm> Myrtti: apparently WP is really quite mature now. ML support is good
[12:43] <Myrtti> if dsample weren't adamant on his demand on having the site in Finnish, I'd just slap the whole thing on Google Sites and call it a day
[12:43] <bigcalm> Heh
[12:43] <bigcalm> Aww, you not doing Sweedish as well?
[12:43] <Myrtti> what I specifically don't have time and patience for is to wait for him to code a thing with Ruby from scratch
[12:43] <bigcalm> Ugh
[12:44] <Myrtti> because ain't nobody got time for that
[12:44] <bigcalm> Use WP ;)
[12:44] <Myrtti> the website issue is basically the reason why the wedding planning had a two year hiatus as is
[12:44] <bigcalm> I started writing my own photo booth application in python. It got abandoned and I ended up using an app on an android tablet
[12:44] <Myrtti> I got frustrated in trying to get things first the way I wanted it, then gave up when I realised it would never be good enough for him
[12:44] <bigcalm> o.O
[12:45] <Myrtti> app on an android tablet?
[12:45] <Myrtti> please tell me more.
[12:46] <bigcalm> Um, one mo
[12:46] <bigcalm> Myrtti: I used this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.groundupworks.partyphotobooth&hl=en_GB
[12:48] <Myrtti> ah right.
[12:48] <Myrtti> D might whip up something with a Raspberry Pi and a Canon camera that can be controlled with gphoto2.
[12:50] <bigcalm> Hehe
[12:50] <bigcalm> That's exactly what I wrote
[12:50] <bigcalm> He's welcome to carry on with what I started
[12:50] <Myrtti> do you have it in github?
[12:50] <Myrtti> or somewhere?
[12:50] <bigcalm> Myrtti: https://github.com/bigcalm/python_photo_booth
[12:50] <Myrtti> ha!
[12:51] <bigcalm> The idea is that you have a webcam for lining up the shot and then a DSLR for taking a good photo
[12:52] <Myrtti> I might nag him into looking that today
[12:54] <bigcalm> I found that the RPi wasn't powerful enough to give a responsive user experience. But the touch screen I bought works with a laptop with HDMI and USB.
[12:54] <bigcalm> Still didn't have the energy to finish it in time, hence the android app
[12:54] <bigcalm> When is the wedding?
[12:55] <Myrtti> If I don't have a total meltdown before it, at the moment it looks like February
[12:56] <Myrtti> started looking at venues and celebrants and photographers two weeks ago.
[12:57] <switchtehbeat> anyone here who have virgin media as their ISP and know about download/legal issues? I could do with your help. :)
[12:58] <Myrtti> venue will confirm which of the two possible weekends it might be in February, photographer and celebrant already confirmed both are ok.
[12:59] <Myrtti> well, that was... patient
[13:00] <bigcalm> Our photographer was Tony Whitmore. His availability dictated when we got married :)
[13:01] <bigcalm> Having three quarters of the Ubuntu Podcast at our wedding was fun
[13:01] <Myrtti> hehe, yeah, we'll probably get the guy who did my mums funeral photography (yes it's a thing in Finland)
[13:03] <bigcalm> Goodness
[13:03] <penguin42> I guess they don't need to be that good at action shots
[13:05] <Myrtti> he's actually pretty good for what I can see. People seem to have always had photos taken at funerals (any family occasion, really) so we got a photographer to take some photos so the people wouldn't need to do it themselves.
[13:05] <Myrtti> my cousin mucked that idea up by blocking the paid cameraman while taking photos with her small pocket point and shoot though, on a few shots :-|
[13:08] <Myrtti> http://tommikappi.com/portfolio/dokumentaarinen_haakuvaus/
[13:12] <foobarry> how do i ask dnsmasq what dns server it is using?
[13:14] <SuperMatt> I think you might need to bribe it
[13:14] <SuperMatt> I hear it's partial to neopolitan icecream
[13:14] <foobarry> i have haribo
[13:14] <SuperMatt> that might work
[13:14] <SuperMatt> I can't guarantee anything though
[13:17] <Myrtti> ooh haribo
[13:18] <foobarry> 72p atm in sainsburys
[13:19] <foobarry> my son wants this for chrimstas http://www.instructables.com/id/8-Bit-Mario-Blanket-Made-from-Granny-Squares/
[14:03] <Myrtti> ooooohhhh http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/multi-device-keyboard-k480
[14:04] <penguin42> looks like a z88