| gamerchick02 | hey hey. i bet everyone's at CHC | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| gamerchick02 | went grocery shopping and now i'm beat | 00:13 |
| rick_h_ | I'm the only one here :/ | 00:17 |
| rick_h_ | so coffee house coder | 00:17 |
| cmaloney | Party party. | 00:28 |
| gamerchick02 | coffee house coder | 00:55 |
| gamerchick02 | dang almost wish i drove down there but i'd battled at Meijer and came home victorious. wore me out though | 00:56 |
| rick_h_ | well now there's 3 of us wheee | 00:56 |
| gamerchick02 | wheee | 00:56 |
| cmaloney | Doing battle with Meijer is bad enough | 01:09 |
| wolfger | morning | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | party | 12:10 |
| brousch_ | ug | 12:29 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:37 |
| === ColonelPanic002_ is now known as ColonelPotato | ||
| greg-g | Just sent off Carrie and Rowan to Michigan for two weeks. | 15:54 |
| rick_h_ | woot | 15:55 |
| rick_h_ | time for a nap! | 15:56 |
| greg-g | :) | 15:57 |
| greg-g | it actually probably means: w00t, time for more work! | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 15:57 |
| cmaloney | w00000t | 16:00 |
| jrwren_ | its true. without family around to distract me, I dont know what to do with myself other than work :) | 16:03 |
| jrwren_ | well... maybe starcraft2 | 16:03 |
| cmaloney | Take up knitting? | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | go to yosemite! | 16:04 |
| cmaloney | <3 Elite Keyboards | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: lol | 16:04 |
| cmaloney | they've fixed my keyboard. | 16:04 |
| cmaloney | Sending it back to me soon | 16:04 |
| rick_h_ | oh nice | 16:04 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, nice to have a warranty | 16:05 |
| cmaloney | Makes me look longingly at some of their other keyboards on their site. :) | 16:06 |
| cmaloney | Not sure about the KUL | 16:06 |
| jrwren_ | cmaloney: i've considered taking up knitting. | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | jrwren_: JoDee's done a little knitting. Seems rather relaxing | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | I'm waiting to get the downstairs in some semblance of order so I can do one of my long-neglected hobbies | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | bashing the shit out of drums. | 16:08 |
| cmaloney | Only issue with the KUL keyboard is they're all Ten Keyless | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: almost man! "932 to silver" | 16:09 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: what wonderful awesome stuff does silver get me? I've forgotten since I've never gotten this close yet | 16:09 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: I need to get you on my addictions. | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: hah, sorry. I've got more than my share already | 16:10 |
| cmaloney | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.starrealms.starrealmsapp&hl=en | 16:10 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, 100% bonus miles | 16:10 |
| cmaloney | It's JoDee approved. | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: so if I get enough miles, I get more miles? | 16:10 |
| jcastro | oh sorry that's gold | 16:10 |
| jcastro | you have 25% | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | doh! | 16:10 |
| cmaloney | Hah, I thought that was part of that game you were playing last night. | 16:11 |
| jcastro | that means you get an extra 25% miles | 16:11 |
| cmaloney | <- idjit. | 16:11 |
| jcastro | normal miles you can spend on flights | 16:11 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: ah gotcha | 16:11 |
| jcastro | the big one is no charge to check a bag | 16:11 |
| jcastro | oh, and the fancy line at the airport | 16:11 |
| rick_h_ | ooh, the fancy line | 16:12 |
| rick_h_ | that reminds me, I need to file for that card for access to the lounges | 16:12 |
| rick_h_ | 3yrs here and never gotten that thing | 16:12 |
| jcastro | that won't matter at DTW | 16:12 |
| cmaloney | The one where they don't make you wait for everyone else? | 16:12 |
| rick_h_ | no? | 16:12 |
| jcastro | they don't accept priority pass, I actually gave mine up | 16:12 |
| rick_h_ | boooo | 16:12 |
| jcastro | I'll be platinum by our next trip, I get like 4 free passes | 16:12 |
| rick_h_ | wtf | 16:13 |
| jcastro | and I can bring up to 3 guests | 16:13 |
| rick_h_ | I've flown my $$$ off this year and just barely scratching silver | 16:13 |
| rick_h_ | you must never be home | 16:13 |
| jcastro | this is the most I've ever flown | 16:13 |
| cmaloney | I think he's been doing it longer | 16:13 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: you guys got the 4pm flight through AMS? | 16:13 |
| cmaloney | Do those miles expire? | 16:13 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: it resets every year | 16:13 |
| jcastro | I am almost platinum and I have one european and like 4 domestic trips to go | 16:13 |
| cmaloney | really? Shit. | 16:13 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: damn man | 16:13 |
| jcastro | delta doesn't expire | 16:14 |
| jcastro | they roll over | 16:14 |
| rick_h_ | do they carry you on the plane? | 16:14 |
| rick_h_ | I got a reset I thought. | 16:14 |
| rick_h_ | or maybe it was one of those 'program changes' | 16:14 |
| jcastro | it resets back to your last level | 16:14 |
| rick_h_ | who the heck can keep track | 16:14 |
| jcastro | it doesn't matter, they are redoing the entire program next year | 16:14 |
| rick_h_ | ah, yea I was a nobody and then was still a nobody | 16:14 |
| jcastro | so it'll be based on what you spend, not what you fly | 16:14 |
| cmaloney | Apparently some little algortihm that ticks those miles off. ;) | 16:14 |
| rick_h_ | I just want to get up to first class sometime without spending $3k extra on a seat | 16:15 |
| jcastro | delta by far has the best program IMO, I get upgraded all the time for free | 16:15 |
| rick_h_ | bad enough I've got to fork over for eco comfort every trip to not hate life | 16:15 |
| jcastro | I even got an international upgrade once | 16:15 |
| rick_h_ | wtf | 16:15 |
| rick_h_ | how does that work? I must not know how to play the game | 16:15 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: Heck, the amount of flying you do they probably have a seat reserved with your butt-groove in it. | 16:15 |
| jcastro | yeah, always fly delta, lol | 16:15 |
| rick_h_ | I tried to upgrade once and they were like "you need to use 30k miles to get a class abc ticket and the $1500 to get to first class each way" | 16:16 |
| jcastro | how are you only silver? | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | yea, same here. | 16:16 |
| jcastro | we've been to capetown AND germany this year | 16:16 |
| jcastro | that alone is decent | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | cape town wasn't delta :( | 16:16 |
| jcastro | oh | 16:16 |
| jcastro | yeah, rule #1 | 16:16 |
| jcastro | fly the same airline | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | couldn't get on that flight | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | all the rest have been | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, sent me and 5 of my family to SF but doesn't all count it seems | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | I got the purchase credits but not miles/etc | 16:17 |
| rick_h_ | 6 freaking tickets | 16:17 |
| jcastro | yeah that is what they are changing | 16:17 |
| jcastro | based on what you spend, not what you fly | 16:17 |
| jcastro | which is either good for us, or horrible | 16:17 |
| rick_h_ | heh, we'll see I guess | 16:17 |
| jcastro | even at silver I've gotten upgrades | 16:17 |
| jcastro | depends on the flight | 16:17 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, excited to be < 1k from silver finally after 3yrs | 16:18 |
| jcastro | status in general sucks at DTW | 16:18 |
| jcastro | everyone has status | 16:18 |
| jcastro | so the priority lines are always worse than the normal ones | 16:18 |
| jcastro | I realize that makes no sense | 16:18 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 16:18 |
| jcastro | when the line is bad they just open up the TSA Pre line anyway | 16:19 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: so you guys have the 4pm AMS flight out? | 16:19 |
| jcastro | so like, you can go through with shoes on and stuff | 16:19 |
| wolfger | jcastro: when do you go to the airport? That's not been my experience. | 16:19 |
| rick_h_ | woot | 16:19 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, I am leaving 9:43pm on the saturday | 16:20 |
| jcastro | wait, wrong trip | 16:20 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: oh, ok cool | 16:20 |
| jcastro | sorry | 16:20 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: hah | 16:20 |
| wolfger | Priority is always better. Pre-check is where it's really at, but... That just feels like extortion to me. I refuse to pay for decent service. | 16:20 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, yeah, 4:23pm | 16:20 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: ok cool | 16:20 |
| rick_h_ | finally got my stuff in order to getting ready to setup flights | 16:20 |
| jcastro | I don't pay for pre, I'm not going to pay for what used to be free | 16:21 |
| jcastro | especially since they keep opening that line for people anyway | 16:22 |
| jcastro | I can see paying for global entry though, customs sucks, and that's for the life of the passport | 16:22 |
| jcastro | I'll probably do that at some point | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I want to do that one | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | and you get pre check for free as part of global passport | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | so that's my new target | 16:22 |
| jcastro | if you get platinum delta will give you a voucher too | 16:23 |
| jrwren_ | i have no idea what you guys are talking about :) | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: hah | 16:23 |
| jcastro | I'll explain it on the plane, heh | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: gives everyone a travel lesson | 16:23 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, the best part is, delta will rollover your status | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | I'll give a gear and methods talk | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | it'll be a mini-conf | 16:24 |
| jcastro | so when I hit platinum this year, all next year I stay platinum, even if I don't fly | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | my wife loves smoser's little gel bottles now | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea, that's cool | 16:24 |
| jcastro | I got my crossover rewards with SPG too, so platinum on there | 16:24 |
| jcastro | I've got it all figured out. | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 16:24 |
| jcastro | as long as I fly delta and stay at SPG I am a king, any place else, worthless. | 16:25 |
| wolfger | and that's how loyalty programs work, folks. :-) | 16:26 |
| smoser | wolfger, they work even better now. | 16:27 |
| smoser | when you have a minimum *spend* to keep airline status | 16:27 |
| wolfger | ugh | 16:27 |
| smoser | so you're motivated to have your employer buy you more expensive tickets | 16:27 |
| smoser | rather than buy the cheap ones | 16:27 |
| wolfger | I can't believe I don't have good status on Delta yet. I flew a lot of miles this year. :-p | 16:27 |
| smoser | you're prbably a cheap skate, and buy cheap tickets! | 16:28 |
| smoser | they've explicitly targetted such people :) | 16:28 |
| wolfger | Yeah, well, I buy the best my company will pay for. | 16:28 |
| wolfger | Which just tells me Delta doesn't care about business travelers. | 16:29 |
| jcastro | they care about the ones who spend more | 16:29 |
| jrwren_ | I don't think I want to know. I don't want to travel :) | 16:29 |
| wolfger | businesses spend as little as possible, most of the time | 16:29 |
| jcastro | 58k miles this year for me | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | travel is fun once you let go and go with the flow | 16:29 |
| jcastro | hah man, I've flow 244,508 total miles on delta | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | wheee | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | how many times around the world is that :P | 16:30 |
| jcastro | I am 25% of the way to being in that george clooney movie | 16:30 |
| jrwren_ | Up in the Air | 16:31 |
| jrwren_ | cute movie. | 16:31 |
| wolfger | I am not even sure which of these numbers is my miles flown :-p | 16:33 |
| wolfger | I've got a balance and an available miles, and an MQM whatever that is.... all different numbers | 16:34 |
| wolfger | geez, they've even changed the SkyMiles marketplace. I can't buy anything with miles until I hit gold, or get the Delta credit card. | 16:37 |
| smoser | wolfger, well, even more. they care about people who buy expensive coach tickets too. | 16:39 |
| smoser | ie, buy your ticket 2 months ohead of time, its cheap. buy it 3 days ahead, its expensive. your sky miles is better off by the 3 days ahead of time ticket. | 16:39 |
| smoser | giving you sick motivation to screw your employer. | 16:40 |
| rick_h_ | wooot! down with the man! | 16:44 |
| rick_h_ | oh wait...he writes me paychecks. Carry one | 16:44 |
| greg-g | welcome to the world of capitalism/profit maximization/zero sum mentality ;) | 16:44 |
| wolfger | yay | 16:53 |
| brousch_ | Why do you get the miles when your employer pays for them? | 17:01 |
| jrwren_ | benefit! | 17:01 |
| rick_h_ | because it's return on losing two weekends while they give me back one :P | 17:08 |
| brousch_ | They don't give you a weekend back, they give you cheap travel | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | wheee | 17:11 |
| brousch_ | Trade flight miles for time off? | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | it's how I make it up to my wife | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | once a year I send my wife to a 'medical conference' aka dr vacation on my lost weekends | 17:11 |
| jrwren_ | ha! good call. | 17:16 |
| cmaloney | Yay, my work is supporting Wikimedia next week. :) | 17:41 |
| greg-g | ? | 17:42 |
| brousch_ | Next keyboard http://goo.gl/ySwjZ5 | 17:45 |
| jrwren_ | now I'm hungry for fried chicken | 17:46 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: We do a charity jeans day at work | 17:56 |
| cmaloney | and I suggested Wikimedia Foundation as one of our charities. | 17:57 |
| greg-g | neat-o | 17:58 |
| brousch_ | How does that work? The company pays the charity for you to not wear jeans? | 17:59 |
| cmaloney | No, we pay money that goes to charity so we can wear jeans on a non-casual Friday. | 18:00 |
| cmaloney | on a particular day. | 18:00 |
| brousch_ | So the company doesn't actually contribute anything except letting you wear jeans? | 18:01 |
| greg-g | welcome to capitalism ;) | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | I think they do some matching or something else along that line | 18:02 |
| wolfger | bribe us to relax the dress code, and then we'll donate that money to charity and reap the tax breaks. | 18:04 |
| brousch_ | That would be nice | 18:04 |
| cmaloney | I went to Catholic school for four years where jeans were verboten. I'm conditioned to do almost anything to wear jeans. | 18:05 |
| * brousch_ makes note of that | 18:06 | |
| brousch_ | You went to Catholic school and Hope? | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: Has to be in a situation where I can't otherwise wear jeans. | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: Yep, and St. Paul Lutheran School. | 18:07 |
| brousch_ | geez | 18:07 |
| greg-g | hence all the metal music | 18:08 |
| cmaloney | I've got the guilt, grace, and predestination thing down. :) | 18:08 |
| brousch_ | cmaloney: You waited so long to take a turn in Go that I forgot my strategy | 18:08 |
| cmaloney | That's part of my new strategy | 18:09 |
| brousch_ | OK, I think I found it | 18:10 |
| wolfger | Heh | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: jrwren_ what seats are you guys on the flight out? | 20:55 |
| rick_h_ | I need to move out of this stupid window seat she put me in | 20:55 |
| jrwren_ | row 51 :( | 20:56 |
| jrwren_ | seat d | 20:56 |
| jcastro | 36D | 20:56 |
| jcastro | but I can move | 20:56 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: all good, I'll hopefully get up to eco comfort, but no isle seats open yet | 20:56 |
| rick_h_ | they tend to open up close to the flight I think | 20:56 |
| jcastro | yeah | 20:56 |
| jcastro | can you do 36F? | 20:57 |
| rick_h_ | I'll move to 52 and poke jrwren_ in the head | 20:57 |
| jcastro | aisle on my row | 20:57 |
| rick_h_ | 36E | 20:57 |
| jrwren_ | oh no! | 20:57 |
| rick_h_ | is the only open one | 20:57 |
| jrwren_ | how do you change seats? :) | 20:57 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: I log into delta and change my stuff around | 20:57 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, which one on 52? I'll take the other one | 20:57 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: taking 52F atm and DE are also both open | 20:58 |
| rick_h_ | we can stick jrwren_ in the middle and squeeze him all the way to AMS :P | 20:58 |
| jcastro | ok I snagged 52D | 20:58 |
| rick_h_ | oh man there is no eco comfort on that flight out wtf | 20:58 |
| rick_h_ | I see it coming back | 20:59 |
| jcastro | they probably just don't show it | 20:59 |
| jcastro | what are you grabbing on the way back? | 20:59 |
| rick_h_ | I'm staying late, don't head back until the 16th | 20:59 |
| jcastro | ack | 20:59 |
| rick_h_ | heading through ATL on that one :/ | 20:59 |
| brousch_ | You prefer aisle to window? | 21:00 |
| rick_h_ | each seat was window seat, I think she read my seat prefernce backwards | 21:00 |
| jrwren_ | I have to figure this out latter...gotta go with teh kiddo. | 21:00 |
| rick_h_ | brousch_: yes, when you're on a 10hr plane, it's nice to get up whever the $@#$#@ you feel like | 21:01 |
| rick_h_ | vs waiting for sleeping folks to wake up | 21:01 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: have fun | 21:01 |
| brousch_ | I love window. You're flying through the air at 400MPH. Watch the wonder! | 21:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch_: plus I can get up and get stuff in/out of my backpack durnig the trip. I get on the plane with at least 3 bottles of water/drinks and snacks | 21:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch_: psh, I'm trying to not piss my pants for a full workday :P | 21:01 |
| brousch_ | Bah, give them the ass as you squeeze out | 21:02 |
| greg-g | benefit of working from home and not being afraid of someone coming into the room asking for something: RATM playing on the good headphones at unprofessional levels with occasional air drumming | 22:02 |
| jrwren_ | still no idea how those guys picked their seats. I have my delta login, but no confirmation number or ticket number. | 22:03 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: you should in your itenerary from the travel agent | 22:05 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: but honestly, it's auto tied to my delta american express | 22:05 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: so I just login to my CC and see it there tied to my frequent flier number | 22:05 |
| greg-g | what trip are ya'll talking about? | 22:05 |
| jrwren_ | I'm too dumb to figure out how to get it from my itenerary to my delta acct. | 22:06 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: next sprint, now that jrwren_ and aisrael are on board we've got a big group heading from detroit | 22:06 |
| jrwren_ | dinner time! | 22:06 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: hmm, do you have a FF Number or anything at the end ot the two flights in the confirmation pdf? | 22:07 |
| jrwren_ | too bad we didn't include mramm on that email :( | 22:07 |
| rick_h_ | heh, he's probably already there/etc | 22:07 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: nothing. | 22:07 |
| rick_h_ | he travels more than jcastro does | 22:07 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: hmm, maybe that 'travel record xxxxx' at the top would work? | 22:07 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: yea, that worked for me | 22:08 |
| jrwren_ | yup, that was it. | 22:08 |
| jrwren_ | wow. unintuitive. | 22:08 |
| jrwren_ | about what I expect from an airline. | 22:08 |
| jrwren_ | thanks rick_h_ ! | 22:08 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.delta.com/ go to "My trips/manage an existing trip" and then enter names/number | 22:08 |
| jrwren_ | now I can go eat dinner. | 22:08 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: :) | 22:08 |
| rick_h_ | enjoy | 22:08 |
| greg-g | oh man right, I forgot jrwren_ was with canonical now! | 22:08 |
| * jrwren_ moves seat away from those guys :p | 22:09 | |
| rick_h_ | yea, ramm, jcastro, smoser, me, and jrwren_ along with adam all now representing | 22:09 |
| rick_h_ | soon we'll rival TX for most folks | 22:09 |
| greg-g | crazy | 22:09 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: you ever get some good info on your estimating velocity question stuff a while back? | 22:09 |
| jcastro | I estimate my velocity at 0 | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | only uphill from here! | 22:10 |
| smoser | adam ? | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | hey, I landed a branch of code today | 22:10 |
| smoser | whos adam | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | first one in a month or more but there you have it | 22:10 |
| rick_h_ | smoser: the new eco guy, adam israel or whatever, not in channel atm | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | but comes and goes | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | this channel at least | 22:11 |
| smoser | cool | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | he's actually across the ambassador bridge I guess | 22:11 |
| rick_h_ | but flying out of dtw we'll count him to take on those texans | 22:11 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: not entirely, no. Got a couple good book recommendations from matt zimmerman, of course :) | 22:13 |
| * greg-g loves that guy | 22:13 | |
| rick_h_ | very cool | 22:13 |
| aisrael | smoser: I'm adam! | 22:38 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/metallica-is-officially-in-the-guinness-book-of-world-records | 23:14 |
| cmaloney | Man, so many good bands calling it a day | 23:18 |
| cmaloney | Shadows Fall, Chimaira | 23:18 |
| brousch_ | As the band that went most downhill after they stopped taking drugs? | 23:18 |
| cmaloney | Which one? | 23:19 |
| cmaloney | Metallica? | 23:19 |
| greg-g | isn't that a true statement for all bands? | 23:19 |
| cmaloney | got to give them props: they're still touring | 23:19 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: I'd argue Skinny Puppy bucked that trend | 23:20 |
| cmaloney | but yeah, number of bands had problems after stopping the drugs / alcohol | 23:22 |
| cmaloney | Though I did like Permanent Vacation by Aerosmith | 23:22 |
| greg-g | <insert quote from Bill Hicks here> | 23:22 |
| greg-g | So Carrie and Rowan had to land in Flint since DTW was closed? | 23:54 |
| greg-g | wtf | 23:54 |
| aisrael | thunderstorms, maybe? | 23:55 |
| aisrael | One of the last times I was at DTW, there was a tornado that forced us to evac | 23:55 |
| greg-g | eek | 23:56 |
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