[00:13] hey hey. i bet everyone's at CHC [00:13] went grocery shopping and now i'm beat [00:17] I'm the only one here :/ [00:17] so coffee house coder [00:28] Party party. [00:55] coffee house coder [00:56] dang almost wish i drove down there but i'd battled at Meijer and came home victorious. wore me out though [00:56] well now there's 3 of us wheee [00:56] wheee [01:09] Doing battle with Meijer is bad enough [12:06] morning [12:10] party [12:29] ug [12:37] Good morning === ColonelPanic002_ is now known as ColonelPotato [15:54] Just sent off Carrie and Rowan to Michigan for two weeks. [15:55] woot [15:56] time for a nap! [15:57] :) [15:57] it actually probably means: w00t, time for more work! [15:57] hah [16:00] w00000t [16:03] its true. without family around to distract me, I dont know what to do with myself other than work :) [16:03] well... maybe starcraft2 [16:04] Take up knitting? [16:04] go to yosemite! [16:04] <3 Elite Keyboards [16:04] cmaloney: lol [16:04] they've fixed my keyboard. [16:04] Sending it back to me soon [16:04] oh nice [16:05] Yeah, nice to have a warranty [16:06] Makes me look longingly at some of their other keyboards on their site. :) [16:06] Not sure about the KUL [16:07] cmaloney: i've considered taking up knitting. [16:07] jrwren_: JoDee's done a little knitting. Seems rather relaxing [16:07] I'm waiting to get the downstairs in some semblance of order so I can do one of my long-neglected hobbies [16:08] bashing the shit out of drums. [16:08] Only issue with the KUL keyboard is they're all Ten Keyless [16:09] jcastro: almost man! "932 to silver" [16:09] jcastro: what wonderful awesome stuff does silver get me? I've forgotten since I've never gotten this close yet [16:10] rick_h_: I need to get you on my addictions. [16:10] cmaloney: hah, sorry. I've got more than my share already [16:10] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.starrealms.starrealmsapp&hl=en [16:10] rick_h_, 100% bonus miles [16:10] It's JoDee approved. [16:10] jcastro: so if I get enough miles, I get more miles? [16:10] oh sorry that's gold [16:10] you have 25% [16:10] doh! [16:11] Hah, I thought that was part of that game you were playing last night. [16:11] that means you get an extra 25% miles [16:11] <- idjit. [16:11] normal miles you can spend on flights [16:11] jcastro: ah gotcha [16:11] the big one is no charge to check a bag [16:11] oh, and the fancy line at the airport [16:12] ooh, the fancy line [16:12] that reminds me, I need to file for that card for access to the lounges [16:12] 3yrs here and never gotten that thing [16:12] that won't matter at DTW [16:12] The one where they don't make you wait for everyone else? [16:12] no? [16:12] they don't accept priority pass, I actually gave mine up [16:12] boooo [16:12] I'll be platinum by our next trip, I get like 4 free passes [16:13] wtf [16:13] and I can bring up to 3 guests [16:13] I've flown my $$$ off this year and just barely scratching silver [16:13] you must never be home [16:13] this is the most I've ever flown [16:13] I think he's been doing it longer [16:13] jcastro: you guys got the 4pm flight through AMS? [16:13] Do those miles expire? [16:13] cmaloney: it resets every year [16:13] I am almost platinum and I have one european and like 4 domestic trips to go [16:13] really? Shit. [16:13] jcastro: damn man [16:14] delta doesn't expire [16:14] they roll over [16:14] do they carry you on the plane? [16:14] I got a reset I thought. [16:14] or maybe it was one of those 'program changes' [16:14] it resets back to your last level [16:14] who the heck can keep track [16:14] it doesn't matter, they are redoing the entire program next year [16:14] ah, yea I was a nobody and then was still a nobody [16:14] so it'll be based on what you spend, not what you fly [16:14] Apparently some little algortihm that ticks those miles off. ;) [16:15] I just want to get up to first class sometime without spending $3k extra on a seat [16:15] delta by far has the best program IMO, I get upgraded all the time for free [16:15] bad enough I've got to fork over for eco comfort every trip to not hate life [16:15] I even got an international upgrade once [16:15] wtf [16:15] how does that work? I must not know how to play the game [16:15] jcastro: Heck, the amount of flying you do they probably have a seat reserved with your butt-groove in it. [16:15] yeah, always fly delta, lol [16:16] I tried to upgrade once and they were like "you need to use 30k miles to get a class abc ticket and the $1500 to get to first class each way" [16:16] how are you only silver? [16:16] yea, same here. [16:16] we've been to capetown AND germany this year [16:16] that alone is decent [16:16] cape town wasn't delta :( [16:16] oh [16:16] yeah, rule #1 [16:16] fly the same airline [16:16] couldn't get on that flight [16:16] all the rest have been [16:16] but yea, sent me and 5 of my family to SF but doesn't all count it seems [16:17] I got the purchase credits but not miles/etc [16:17] 6 freaking tickets [16:17] yeah that is what they are changing [16:17] based on what you spend, not what you fly [16:17] which is either good for us, or horrible [16:17] heh, we'll see I guess [16:17] even at silver I've gotten upgrades [16:17] depends on the flight [16:18] anyway, excited to be < 1k from silver finally after 3yrs [16:18] status in general sucks at DTW [16:18] everyone has status [16:18] so the priority lines are always worse than the normal ones [16:18] I realize that makes no sense [16:18] lol [16:19] when the line is bad they just open up the TSA Pre line anyway [16:19] jcastro: so you guys have the 4pm AMS flight out? [16:19] so like, you can go through with shoes on and stuff [16:19] jcastro: when do you go to the airport? That's not been my experience. [16:19] woot [16:20] rick_h_, I am leaving 9:43pm on the saturday [16:20] wait, wrong trip [16:20] jcastro: oh, ok cool [16:20] sorry [16:20] jcastro: hah [16:20] Priority is always better. Pre-check is where it's really at, but... That just feels like extortion to me. I refuse to pay for decent service. [16:20] rick_h_, yeah, 4:23pm [16:20] jcastro: ok cool [16:20] finally got my stuff in order to getting ready to setup flights [16:21] I don't pay for pre, I'm not going to pay for what used to be free [16:22] especially since they keep opening that line for people anyway [16:22] I can see paying for global entry though, customs sucks, and that's for the life of the passport [16:22] I'll probably do that at some point [16:22] yea, I want to do that one [16:22] and you get pre check for free as part of global passport [16:22] so that's my new target [16:23] if you get platinum delta will give you a voucher too [16:23] i have no idea what you guys are talking about :) [16:23] jrwren_: hah [16:23] I'll explain it on the plane, heh [16:23] jcastro: gives everyone a travel lesson [16:23] rick_h_, the best part is, delta will rollover your status [16:23] I'll give a gear and methods talk [16:24] it'll be a mini-conf [16:24] so when I hit platinum this year, all next year I stay platinum, even if I don't fly [16:24] my wife loves smoser's little gel bottles now [16:24] jcastro: yea, that's cool [16:24] I got my crossover rewards with SPG too, so platinum on there [16:24] I've got it all figured out. [16:24] lol [16:25] as long as I fly delta and stay at SPG I am a king, any place else, worthless. [16:26] and that's how loyalty programs work, folks. :-) [16:27] wolfger, they work even better now. [16:27] when you have a minimum *spend* to keep airline status [16:27] ugh [16:27] so you're motivated to have your employer buy you more expensive tickets [16:27] rather than buy the cheap ones [16:27] I can't believe I don't have good status on Delta yet. I flew a lot of miles this year. :-p [16:28] you're prbably a cheap skate, and buy cheap tickets! [16:28] they've explicitly targetted such people :) [16:28] Yeah, well, I buy the best my company will pay for. [16:29] Which just tells me Delta doesn't care about business travelers. [16:29] they care about the ones who spend more [16:29] I don't think I want to know. I don't want to travel :) [16:29] businesses spend as little as possible, most of the time [16:29] 58k miles this year for me [16:29] travel is fun once you let go and go with the flow [16:30] hah man, I've flow 244,508 total miles on delta [16:30] wheee [16:30] how many times around the world is that :P [16:30] I am 25% of the way to being in that george clooney movie [16:31] Up in the Air [16:31] cute movie. [16:33] I am not even sure which of these numbers is my miles flown :-p [16:34] I've got a balance and an available miles, and an MQM whatever that is.... all different numbers [16:37] geez, they've even changed the SkyMiles marketplace. I can't buy anything with miles until I hit gold, or get the Delta credit card. [16:39] wolfger, well, even more. they care about people who buy expensive coach tickets too. [16:39] ie, buy your ticket 2 months ohead of time, its cheap. buy it 3 days ahead, its expensive. your sky miles is better off by the 3 days ahead of time ticket. [16:40] giving you sick motivation to screw your employer. [16:44] wooot! down with the man! [16:44] oh wait...he writes me paychecks. Carry one [16:44] welcome to the world of capitalism/profit maximization/zero sum mentality ;) [16:53] yay [17:01] Why do you get the miles when your employer pays for them? [17:01] benefit! [17:08] because it's return on losing two weekends while they give me back one :P [17:10] They don't give you a weekend back, they give you cheap travel [17:11] wheee [17:11] Trade flight miles for time off? [17:11] it's how I make it up to my wife [17:11] once a year I send my wife to a 'medical conference' aka dr vacation on my lost weekends [17:16] ha! good call. [17:41] Yay, my work is supporting Wikimedia next week. :) [17:42] ? [17:45] Next keyboard http://goo.gl/ySwjZ5 [17:46] now I'm hungry for fried chicken [17:56] greg-g: We do a charity jeans day at work [17:57] and I suggested Wikimedia Foundation as one of our charities. [17:58] neat-o [17:59] How does that work? The company pays the charity for you to not wear jeans? [18:00] No, we pay money that goes to charity so we can wear jeans on a non-casual Friday. [18:00] on a particular day. [18:01] So the company doesn't actually contribute anything except letting you wear jeans? [18:02] welcome to capitalism ;) [18:02] I think they do some matching or something else along that line [18:04] bribe us to relax the dress code, and then we'll donate that money to charity and reap the tax breaks. [18:04] That would be nice [18:05] I went to Catholic school for four years where jeans were verboten. I'm conditioned to do almost anything to wear jeans. [18:06] * brousch_ makes note of that [18:07] You went to Catholic school and Hope? [18:07] brousch_: Has to be in a situation where I can't otherwise wear jeans. [18:07] brousch_: Yep, and St. Paul Lutheran School. [18:07] geez [18:08] hence all the metal music [18:08] I've got the guilt, grace, and predestination thing down. :) [18:08] cmaloney: You waited so long to take a turn in Go that I forgot my strategy [18:09] That's part of my new strategy [18:10] OK, I think I found it [18:17] Heh [20:55] jcastro: jrwren_ what seats are you guys on the flight out? [20:55] I need to move out of this stupid window seat she put me in [20:56] row 51 :( [20:56] seat d [20:56] 36D [20:56] but I can move [20:56] jcastro: all good, I'll hopefully get up to eco comfort, but no isle seats open yet [20:56] they tend to open up close to the flight I think [20:56] yeah [20:57] can you do 36F? [20:57] I'll move to 52 and poke jrwren_ in the head [20:57] aisle on my row [20:57] 36E [20:57] oh no! [20:57] is the only open one [20:57] how do you change seats? :) [20:57] jrwren_: I log into delta and change my stuff around [20:57] rick_h_, which one on 52? I'll take the other one [20:58] jcastro: taking 52F atm and DE are also both open [20:58] we can stick jrwren_ in the middle and squeeze him all the way to AMS :P [20:58] ok I snagged 52D [20:58] oh man there is no eco comfort on that flight out wtf [20:59] I see it coming back [20:59] they probably just don't show it [20:59] what are you grabbing on the way back? [20:59] I'm staying late, don't head back until the 16th [20:59] ack [20:59] heading through ATL on that one :/ [21:00] You prefer aisle to window? [21:00] each seat was window seat, I think she read my seat prefernce backwards [21:00] I have to figure this out latter...gotta go with teh kiddo. [21:01] brousch_: yes, when you're on a 10hr plane, it's nice to get up whever the $@#$#@ you feel like [21:01] vs waiting for sleeping folks to wake up [21:01] jrwren_: have fun [21:01] I love window. You're flying through the air at 400MPH. Watch the wonder! [21:01] brousch_: plus I can get up and get stuff in/out of my backpack durnig the trip. I get on the plane with at least 3 bottles of water/drinks and snacks [21:01] brousch_: psh, I'm trying to not piss my pants for a full workday :P [21:02] Bah, give them the ass as you squeeze out [22:02] benefit of working from home and not being afraid of someone coming into the room asking for something: RATM playing on the good headphones at unprofessional levels with occasional air drumming [22:03] still no idea how those guys picked their seats. I have my delta login, but no confirmation number or ticket number. [22:05] jrwren_: you should in your itenerary from the travel agent [22:05] jrwren_: but honestly, it's auto tied to my delta american express [22:05] jrwren_: so I just login to my CC and see it there tied to my frequent flier number [22:05] what trip are ya'll talking about? [22:06] I'm too dumb to figure out how to get it from my itenerary to my delta acct. [22:06] greg-g: next sprint, now that jrwren_ and aisrael are on board we've got a big group heading from detroit [22:06] dinner time! [22:07] jrwren_: hmm, do you have a FF Number or anything at the end ot the two flights in the confirmation pdf? [22:07] too bad we didn't include mramm on that email :( [22:07] heh, he's probably already there/etc [22:07] rick_h_: nothing. [22:07] he travels more than jcastro does [22:07] jrwren_: hmm, maybe that 'travel record xxxxx' at the top would work? [22:08] jrwren_: yea, that worked for me [22:08] yup, that was it. [22:08] wow. unintuitive. [22:08] about what I expect from an airline. [22:08] thanks rick_h_ ! [22:08] https://www.delta.com/ go to "My trips/manage an existing trip" and then enter names/number [22:08] now I can go eat dinner. [22:08] jrwren_: :) [22:08] enjoy [22:08] oh man right, I forgot jrwren_ was with canonical now! [22:09] * jrwren_ moves seat away from those guys :p [22:09] yea, ramm, jcastro, smoser, me, and jrwren_ along with adam all now representing [22:09] soon we'll rival TX for most folks [22:09] crazy [22:09] greg-g: you ever get some good info on your estimating velocity question stuff a while back? [22:10] I estimate my velocity at 0 [22:10] lol [22:10] only uphill from here! [22:10] adam ? [22:10] hey, I landed a branch of code today [22:10] whos adam [22:10] first one in a month or more but there you have it [22:11] smoser: the new eco guy, adam israel or whatever, not in channel atm [22:11] but comes and goes [22:11] this channel at least [22:11] cool [22:11] he's actually across the ambassador bridge I guess [22:11] but flying out of dtw we'll count him to take on those texans [22:13] rick_h_: not entirely, no. Got a couple good book recommendations from matt zimmerman, of course :) [22:13] * greg-g loves that guy [22:13] very cool [22:38] smoser: I'm adam! [23:14] jcastro: http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/metallica-is-officially-in-the-guinness-book-of-world-records [23:18] Man, so many good bands calling it a day [23:18] Shadows Fall, Chimaira [23:18] As the band that went most downhill after they stopped taking drugs? [23:19] Which one? [23:19] Metallica? [23:19] isn't that a true statement for all bands? [23:19] got to give them props: they're still touring [23:20] greg-g: I'd argue Skinny Puppy bucked that trend [23:22] but yeah, number of bands had problems after stopping the drugs / alcohol [23:22] Though I did like Permanent Vacation by Aerosmith [23:22] [23:54] So Carrie and Rowan had to land in Flint since DTW was closed? [23:54] wtf [23:55] thunderstorms, maybe? [23:55] One of the last times I was at DTW, there was a tornado that forced us to evac [23:56] eek