[00:00] <JohnTalent> i found a bug in find
[00:00] <JohnTalent> so I call up Richard M. Stallman?
[00:00] <stooped> jnek1127: you can have many partitions all with different file formats.
[00:01] <labeeb32> i am unable to unlock my admin account in ubuntu 14.04. i am using my user password but itts not working
[00:02] <Ben64> labeeb32: don't unlock it, use sudo to gain access when needed
[00:02] <labeeb32> sudo isnt accepting
[00:02] <andy__> hi, is there a way I could export my mysql database via FTP?
[00:02] <Ben64> labeeb32: what is the output of "groups"
[00:02] <jnek1127> stooped: ok well i can't make a new partition in gpart, everything's grayed out. is it cause i'm running off a DVD
[00:03] <labeeb32> i have only one user account which is running as admin too
[00:03] <stooped> jnek1127: Linux seems to work best in ext3. Windows in ntfs.
[00:03] <stooped> jnek1127: sorry meant ext4
[00:03] <labeeb32> i am unable to unlock that user account
[00:04] <labeeb32> mu seudo command password isnt working
[00:04] <JohnTalent> gnu bugs, they'll never be fixed.
[00:05] <labeeb32> ben64?
[00:05] <andy__> hello?
[00:05] <stooped> labeeb32: what are you trying to do with sudo
[00:06] <Ben64> labeeb32: again, what is the output of "groups"
[00:06] <labeeb32> anything i do it ask for password and its not working
[00:06] <labeeb32> what groups are you talking about
[00:06] <Ben64> labeeb32: type "groups" then hit enter. paste the result here
[00:07] <_unreal_> labeeb32, you could also type : groups | pastebinit
[00:07] <labeeb32> khuuram adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[00:08] <stooped> jnek1127: it's because most likely it's formatted in hfs+ journal. Its UN writable in Linux. But u can format it to something else. Then partition it.
[00:08] <labeeb32> khuuram adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[00:09] <labeeb32> thats what i m geting after hiting groups
[00:09] <labeeb32> ben64?
[00:09] <stooped> jnek1127: http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os
[00:09] <labeeb32> unral?
[00:09] <qwerkus> hello, are there some opcodes available for dash searches, like -iname ?
[00:09] <_unreal_> if your trying to preform sudo task's then you will have to enter a password unless you change the rights
[00:10] <_unreal_> there is a TXT file which controls the rights.
[00:10] <darklieutenant> heelloo
[00:10] <_unreal_> good byeeeee
[00:10] <labeeb32> ben6?
[00:10] <jnek1127> stooped: thanks this is actually helpful, but i meant i couldn't partition my PC's hard drive using gpart for some reason, to make a new drive to copy my files from the external onto
[00:10] <labeeb32> ben64?
[00:11] <_unreal_> jnek1127, ?
[00:11] <Ben64> labeeb32: ok, those groups look fine. you do need to enter the correct password though
[00:11] <_unreal_> typically your required to give root access to even use gpart
[00:11] <labeeb32> my sudo password is not been accepted
[00:12] <Ben64> labeeb32: its the same password as your user
[00:12] <_unreal_> labeeb32, what ever your password for your user NOT root but user is is the sudo password
[00:12] <qwerkus> woot ?
[00:12] <labeeb32> exactly my user is locked but automatically logged in
[00:12] <_unreal_> so long suckers :)
[00:12] <stooped> jnek1127: are you trying to partition the damaged drive or a different one.
[00:12] <labeeb32> i cant unlock y user even
[00:12] <Ben64> labeeb32: define "locked" and "unlock"
[00:12] <_unreal_> ugh got to feed a child
[00:13] <labeeb32> its locked
[00:13] <labeeb32> my admin password is locked
[00:13] <Ben64> labeeb32: there is no admin password
[00:13] <labeeb32> cant change
[00:13] <stooped> labeeb32: try changing it password. Maybe you don't have the right password.
[00:14] <labeeb32> user admin password that i use for sudo
[00:14] <jnek1127> unreal: i have a hfs+ journaled external hard drive for my mac, that i need to reformat in order to repair it. first i want to create a back up of all my files on my PC (on which I'm running ubuntu currently just so i can do this cause it's impossible with windows). So I want to use ubuntu to create a FAT32 partition in order to store my files here while i'm reformatting the drive. but in gparted i can't make partitions on the
[00:14] <stooped> labeeb32: try changing Your password. Maybe you don't have the right password.
[00:14] <ikonia_> there is no admin password
[00:14] <ikonia_> the sudo password is your user password
[00:14] <Ben64> labeeb32: there is no user admin password, there is your password only
[00:14] <labeeb32> look ben
[00:14] <eeee> labeeb32: passwd -u
[00:14] <eeee> run that
[00:14] <andy__> hi, is there a way I could export (and then import) my mysql database via FTP?
[00:15] <labeeb32> i go in root with my root password to change admin account password
[00:15] <ikonia> andy__: yes, mysqldump
[00:15] <labeeb32> but again it dont accept
[00:15] <andy__> ikonia: how do I do it exactly?
[00:15] <Ben64> look labeeb32, you don't know your password. if you did, sudo would work. you can reset your password if you restart and go into recovery mode
[00:15] <labeeb32> okay a list of options i got here
[00:15] <stooped> jnek1127: in four Mac recovery disk you can partition Mac disks.
[00:15] <labeeb32> after this passwrd -u command
[00:16] <stooped> jnek1127: in your Mac recovery disk you can partition Mac disks.
[00:16] <eeee> nevermind
[00:16] <eeee> labeeb32:
[00:16] <ikonia> labeeb32: there is no root password
[00:16] <ikonia> labeeb32: you can't be root
[00:16] <ikonia> andy__: mysqldump then the options for your database then >to_a_file.dump
[00:16] <labeeb32> yep in recovery mood i didnt gave any after this big list
[00:16] <eeee> labeeb32:  type id in your terminal
[00:16] <labeeb32> i am rooted
[00:17] <ikonia> why are you in recovery mode ?
[00:17] <labeeb32> uid=1000(khurram) gid=1000(khurram) groups=1000(khurram),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[00:17] <labeeb32> thats what i get after hiting id
[00:17] <ikonia> labeeb32: then you are not root
[00:18] <labeeb32> ok?
[00:18] <stooped> jnek1127: Your making this complicated. Ubuntu cannot partition ufs+ disks. They can only read them.
[00:18] <ikonia> labeeb32: what's the actual problem, you appear to be just saying random details
[00:19] <andy__> ikonia: I cannot access mysql :(
[00:19] <labeeb32> i cant unlock my admin account
[00:19] <ikonia> andy__: what do you mean ?
[00:19] <eeee> labeeb32: how did you login?
[00:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: what admin account
[00:19] <labeeb32> my sudo password isnt being accepted
[00:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: there is no "admin" account
[00:19] <labeeb32> auto login
[00:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: it's the same password as the one you use to login
[00:19] <eeee> ikonia: he means he can't use sudo, i think he autologged in
[00:19] <andy__> ikonia: how can i query it
[00:19] <ikonia> andy__: what do yo umean how can you query it ?
[00:19] <andy__> if i can't access mysql
[00:20] <labeeb32> log in pass is off
[00:20] <ikonia> andy__: in what aspect?
[00:20] <andy__> well, you said to mysqldump it
[00:20] <labeeb32> i just get in without password
[00:20] <ikonia> andy__: right, mysqldump is a command
[00:20] <andy__> so where do I execute it?
[00:20] <andy__> ubuntu?
[00:20] <Ben64> labeeb32: well you still need your password to use sudo
[00:20] <ikonia> andy__: yes, in a shell
[00:20] <labeeb32> how can i reset all my passwords admin sudo whtever
[00:21] <labeeb32> yes
[00:21] <labeeb32> sudo not working without it
[00:21] <andy__> ikonia: mysqldump [options] db_name
[00:21] <Ben64> labeeb32: there is only one password
[00:21] <eeee> labeeb32: do you have other accounts on the system that are in the sudo group ?
[00:21] <andy__> what options should I put?
[00:21] <andy__> :)
[00:21] <labeeb32> no
[00:21] <labeeb32> only 1 acc
[00:21] <ikonia> andy__: you shouldn't be doing this
[00:21] <ikonia> andy__: if you need this level of instruction, you probably won't have enough understanding of mysql
[00:22] <eeee> labeeb32: do you have a liveusb?
[00:22] <ikonia> andy__: have you looked up the options for the mysqldump command
[00:22] <labeeb32> any other solution ... i dnt have any live usb right nw
[00:23] <stooped> labeeb32: it sounds like u don't know your password
[00:23] <labeeb32> exactly
[00:23] <Ben64> labeeb32: as i said before, you can reset your password using the recovery mode
[00:23] <Crawler> Hey, so I'm currently having a problem with installing fonts-dejavu-core.
[00:23] <Crawler> Anyone able to help me there?
[00:23] <labeeb32> i did that in recovery mode i get these options
[00:23] <stooped> labeeb32: You have to reinstall. Security is security. No way to get it back. Its encrypted.
[00:23] <ikonia> Crawler: that comes from a PPA doesn't it ?
[00:23] <labeeb32> i got stuck here 'i will copy paste
[00:24] <Ben64> stooped: unlikely
[00:24] <labeeb32>   -a, --all                     report password status on all accounts
[00:24] <labeeb32> i get these
[00:25] <Ben64> labeeb32: please don't flood a bunch of lines
[00:25] <labeeb32> after passwrd -u comm
[00:25] <labeeb32> hw do i go further?
[00:25] <Ben64> labeeb32: you need to start in recovery mode
[00:25] <labeeb32> then?
[00:25] <Qwertie> I;m trying to follow the packaging tutorial but when I use "bzr dh-make hello 2.7 hello-2.7.tar.gz" I get "bzr: ERROR: unknown command "dh-make"
[00:25] <Qwertie> "
[00:25] <Ben64> !password | labeeb32
[00:26] <Basketball> eeee, you on
[00:26] <ikonia> Qwertie: contact the tutorial owner, it sounds like it's not installed the required software
[00:26] <trism> Qwertie: sudo apt-get install bzr-builddeb
[00:27] <HerrZakath> so, I try to apt-get install fonts-dejavu-core, but it says it can't find the package.
[00:27] <ikonia> HerrZakath: I believe that package comes from a PPA
[00:27] <HerrZakath> Sorry, I'm new to linux, what is a PPA?
[00:27] <popey> HerrZakath: try ttf-dejavu-core
[00:28] <popey> oh, no, thats the old one, sorry
[00:28] <popey> fonts-dejavu-core is in 14.04 and 14.10 archive
[00:28] <ikonia> popey: is this still part of ubuntu
[00:28] <labeeb32> i started in recovery mode i reached uptil the command passwd useraccont i got a list of options including all del expire etc hw do i proceed frm here ?
[00:28] <popey> fonts-dejavu-core is
[00:28] <Qwertie> Thanks trism
[00:28] <ikonia> I thought it was in a PPA now ?
[00:28] <Ben64> labeeb32: did you look at the link ubottu gave you
[00:29] <popey> rmadison says it is in main
[00:29] <HerrZakath> It tells me that ttf-dejavu-core is already installed with the latest version
[00:29] <HerrZakath> I'm currently running precise
[00:29] <popey> HerrZakath: ahh, its not in precise repo
[00:29] <HerrZakath> Is there any way for me to get it in precise?
[00:30] <labeeb32> i checked and i i got this USAGE: passwd [options] login than a list of options
[00:30] <popey> you could grab the deb from trusty.. http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fonts-dejavu/fonts-dejavu-core_2.34-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[00:30] <popey> HerrZakath: grab that and "sudo dpkg -i fonts-dejavu-core_2.34-1ubuntu1_all.deb"
[00:30] <Ben64> labeeb32: "passwd <your username>
[00:30] <popey> it has no dependencies
[00:31] <labeeb32> did that and got list of options the same as before
[00:31] <Ben64> labeeb32: what exactly did you type
[00:31] <labeeb32> passwd khurram teaserx
[00:31] <Ben64> labeeb32: thats not what i said to do...
[00:32] <labeeb32> khurram teaserx is my user name
[00:32] <Ben64> no it isn't
[00:32] <netlar> Are some pictures not compatible as wallpaper in ubuntu 14.04?
[00:33] <labeeb32> than what it is?
[00:33] <Ben64> labeeb32: khurram
[00:33] <DoverMo> netlar: why do you ask
[00:33] <labeeb32> lemme try only khurram plz
[00:34] <cynicallemon> wallpaper featuring bill gate is not compatible
[00:34] <HerrZakath> Hey, the dpkg thing worked! Thanks a ton guys.
[00:34] <netlar> Well, some, when I change the wallpaper to that picture file, looks fine on the screen, but the switch user screen shows the orange background instead
[00:35] <netlar> Funny enough the lock screen does show the current wallpaper
[00:35] <DoverMo> netlar: the login manager screen has it's own wallpaper
[00:35] <netlar> DoverMo: So that is changed somewhere else?
[00:36] <DoverMo> netlar: eyup!
[00:36] <eeee> netlar: do you have dconf editor ?
[00:36] <DoverMo> netlar: has to be the right format too
[00:37] <netlar> DoverMo: It is curious, about 90% of the additional wallpapers I get do work everywhere including the login screen
[00:37] <Basketball> eeee,  can we pm
[00:37] <netlar> DoverMo: What format is that?
[00:37] <netlar> eeee: I do have dconf editor
[00:37] <eeee> Basketball: sure
[00:37] <Basketball> eeee,  pm me
[00:37] <eeee> netlar: go to com > canonical > unity-greeter
[00:39] <netlar> eeee: ok there
[00:39] <eeee> netlar: ok, you can change the background there, it's the first line, as well as remove the dots and what not
[00:40] <DoverMo> not the precious dots
[00:40] <netlar> eeee: But why does most of my user wallpapers work, and not some
[00:41] <labeeb32> ben64
[00:41] <labeeb32> i did with khurram only
[00:41] <labeeb32> i got teasers login:
[00:42] <netlar> I do have like 54 wallpapers that I have downlaoded, they all work
[00:42] <eeee> netlar: work where?
[00:42] <DoverMo> netlar: what format O:
[00:42] <netlar> eeee: All over
[00:42] <Ben64> labeeb32: where are you seeing that
[00:42] <netlar> DoverMo: They are all jpg files
[00:43] <eeee> netlar: i think the unity-greeter background has to be .png
[00:43] <DoverMo> .png
[00:43] <netlar> eeee: Actually those are the files that do not work
[00:44] <labeeb32> after doing all
[00:44] <labeeb32> hey it worked"*
[00:44] <labeeb32> thank you.....so much
[00:44] <DoverMo> netlar: it may be because the .png is named correctly
[00:45] <labeeb32> ben64 thanks
[00:45] <DoverMo> incorrectly*
[00:45] <netlar> DoverMo: I do not use .png files, all the wallpapers I have are jpg files
[00:46] <netlar> I do see the option in dconf, that the option is checked for draw-user-background
[00:50] <netlar> And again, all 54 of the .jpg files do work. It is just a mystery that I have downloaded some files that do not work
[00:51] <Zenock> Hi Trying to make my microscope work and found this:
[00:51] <Zenock> http://sourceforge.net/p/linux-uvc/mailman/message/29835445/
[00:51] <Zenock> Trouble is I don't know how to do that...
[00:51] <DoverMo> netlar: exporting a new jpg from a lossless file?
[00:52] <netlar> DoverMo: Exporting uhh no.  I am just downloading the files from wallpaper websites
[00:52] <Zenock> I think I need to download some drivers from somewhere unzip them change the file in question and run make and make install.
[00:52] <DoverMo> netlar: right. so put it in a lossless format and export it as a new jpg and see if that works
[00:52] <Zenock> If I could get a little more detailed guideance it would be much appreciated.
[00:53] <linuxuz3r> anyone good with c++
[00:53] <Zenock> I really am something of a noob.
[00:53] <linuxuz3r> what does *tmp++ = x; do
[00:53] <netlar> DoverMo: For the ones that do not work?
[00:54] <DoverMo> linuxuz3r: c, not c++ : P
[00:54] <DoverMo> netlar: yeah
[00:54] <netlar> DoverMo: I will try that
[00:55] <Beldar> Zenock, Your link has no answers and is doubtful there are drivers from what I can tell. I would look on tehe web with the model and your ubuntu release and linux.
[00:55] <Beldar> the*
[00:56] <netlar> DoverMo: So the reason why some of the wallpapers are not on greeter screen is because they are not in the lossless format?
[00:56] <DoverMo> netlar: no....
[00:56] <Beldar> Zenock,When plugged in does it show if you run lsusb
[00:56] <DoverMo> netlar: jpg isn't lossless!
[00:56] <Zenock> yes
[00:56] <DoverMo> netlar: i just thought i'd be worth a try if something in the meta is messed up
[00:57] <Zenock> If you look at the second message of my link it says to run patch to uvc_driver.c  I found another post that says this works as well.
[00:57] <netlar> DoverMo: Then why do all of the other 54 jpg files working?
[00:57] <Beldar> Zenock, preface with nicks, your lsusb info is pertinent.
[00:57] <DoverMo> netlar: ^^^inb5 "if something in the meta is messed up"
[00:57] <Zenock> Beldar, yes
[00:59] <Beldar> Zenock, That is a wall of text, I also see "
[00:59] <Beldar> This looks like a pretty weird beast. The device might or might not be UVC-compatible" help here on something like this will take someone dedicated to looking trough and more info most likely.
[00:59] <Beldar> Zenock, technically 3rd party stuff is a hit or miss here
[01:00] <Zenock>  Beldar: uvc driver is included since 2.6.26
[01:01] <Zenock> Beldar, I just need to understand how to patch it.
[01:01] <Zenock> It's kind of beyond me.  I've never patched a driver.
[01:03] <Zenock> beldar, her's a better link... http://sourceforge.net/p/linux-uvc/mailman/linux-uvc-devel/thread/5394EAEE.9000800@gmail.com/
[01:04] <p014k> How do I install java so that it will work with firefox? Is there a good package? Would java-common do the trick?
[01:05] <greeter> you can use icedtea or you can use oracle java. i find oracle java works better, but it's a matter of preference
[01:05] <greeter> in general you should be careful about using java because it's been known to have severe security flaws in it
[01:05] <Beldar> !java | p014k
[01:06] <jctech2020> I didn't have much luck with iced tea. I always get an error
[01:06] <greeter> oh, hmm, the bot has answers for everything it seems :-)
[01:07] <ponA_> hey guys, i just created a software raid for testing purposes. the "disks" window says that the array is degraded and that 1 disk is missing
[01:07] <p014k> Do I need all of those? Or just openjdk? And I need to install 6 before 7?
[01:07] <Beldar> p014k, read the link
[01:08] <ponA_> does this happen every time you create a raid array or did i do something wrong?
[01:08] <ponA_> it says also that it is currently rebuilding with around 80mb/s
[01:09] <ponA_> the raid consists of 4 formatted disks, do they need any kind of initializing? i dont want to wait 2 hours just to find out it wont work anyway...
[01:11] <mesopotamian> HI
[01:11] <mesopotamian> aNYONE INTERESTED IN A SERIOUS CONVERSATION AND fuck caps
[01:11] <mesopotamian> Acting normal
[01:11] <mesopotamian> Like just saying something normal
[01:12] <mesopotamian> Like acting normal
[01:12] <cfhowlett> mesopotamian, wrong channel.  no profanity.
[01:12] <mesopotamian> how am i supposed to spell your name
[01:12] <mesopotamian> i think it's clownboots
[01:12] <mesopotamian> i don't have glasses on
[01:12] <mesopotamian> can you repeat that
[01:13] <cfhowlett> !topic | mesopotamian
[01:13] <mesopotamian> What is your name
[01:13] <mesopotamian> I can't read that I'm sorry
[01:13] <mesopotamian> I'm not the person you don't want yourself knowing the name of
[01:13] <cfhowlett> mesopotamian, if you can type ,you can read.  ask your ubuntu question or go play elsewhere.
[01:13] <mesopotamian> If that suits your interest
[01:14] <mesopotamian> I'm having too much fun
[01:14] <cfhowlett> !ops | mesopotamian
[01:14] <mesopotamian> Thanks for killin yourself
[01:40] <gyre007_> M
[01:43] <jctech2020> and so text scrolls by...
[01:45] <Gerowen> Anybody know why Brasero refuses to burn cue/bin images, but K3b burns them no problem?
[01:46] <jctech2020> k3b is better thats why :)
[01:47] <Beldar> bazhang, Hey a user banned here now on ##windows
[01:47] <Beldar> heh gone already, never mind
[01:49] <Tots> Hey guys, I'm getting a really weird error with IRC. Half my networks can't connect yet on the SAME network, I can connect from my phone. What's going on?
[01:49] <Beldar> Tots, What IRC client?
[01:49] <Tots> Beldar: Xchat
[01:50] <Tots> I've tried Hexchat as well and it won't connect to a network that I've connected to fine for months on this comptuer
[01:50] <Tots> now, it's gradually starting to drop off other networks than just that one while others can connect there fine
[01:50] <Beldar> Tots, You might try #xchat
[01:51] <Beldar> my guess would be user error
[01:51] <Gerowen> jctech2020: Thinking of giving a full blown KDE environment a shot, is the version in 14.04 any good?  I haven't ran KDE in a very long time.  I'm pretty happy with Unity, but I'm just curious and thinking of experimenting with something new.
[01:51] <Tots> i didn't change anything
[01:51] <Tots> My comptuer rebooted a couple days ago and since them, poof
[01:51] <Beldar> Gerowen, Any good is a subjective opinion, try it and decide.
[01:52] <jctech2020> Gerowen, kde is nice but it is kind of a resource hog, but if you have a modern system you will be pleased
[01:52] <Beldar> Gerowen, Install it with apt-get make a copy of the installed apps so you can wipe it if not happy.
[01:54] <jctech2020> give it a try in a vm
[01:56] <jay> hey
[01:56] <jay> how's it going lurkers
[01:56] <Beldar> jay, support here not chat.
[01:56] <jay> oh :(
[01:56] <jay> understood
[01:57] <Beldar> jay, #ubuntu-offtopic however has chat.
[01:58] <blendn> gheraint is a homosexual and he likes to fuck little boys in the McDonald's bathroom!
[01:58] <blendn> gheraint is a homosexual and he likes to fuck little boys in the McDonald's bathroom!!
[01:58] <blendn> gheraint is a homosexual and he likes to fuck little boys in the McDonald's bathroom!!!
[01:58] <blendn> gheraint is a homosexual and he likes to fuck little boys in the McDonald's bathroom!!!!
[01:58] <blendn> gheraint is a homosexual and he likes to fuck little boys in the McDonald's bathroom!!!!!
[01:58] <blendn> gheraint is a homosexual and he likes to fuck little boys in the McDonald's bathroom!!!!!!
[01:58] <unopaste> blendn you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:58] <Beldar> !ops | blendn
[01:59] <jctech2020> haha crazy ass
[02:00] <phunyguy> ok no need to comment with vulgarities
[02:01] <phunyguy> !guidelines | for anyone else present, these are in the channel topic
[02:02] <jctech2020> ohh come on that was not vulgar
[02:04] <Beldar> jctech2020, just stick with your terrible help. ;)
[02:04] <phunyguy> o.O
[02:06] <Basketball> hey eeee can you help me with my script please
[02:07] <phunyguy> Basketball: what kind of script?
[02:07] <Basketball> bash phunyguy
[02:07] <phunyguy> #bash
[02:07] <phunyguy> :)
[02:07] <jay> "/alias hideadd eval set activity_hide_targets $activity_hide_targets $-"
[02:07] <jay> exit
[02:09] <sashenka> hi
[02:12] <ZedFire> nobody
[02:15] <rama__> :S
[02:16] <Tots> Beldar: I can't get it to work in irssi, either. It's something about the networking side, entirely
[02:17] <Tots> irc.esper.net being the example one I can't access
[02:19] <bilbocrying> Hello. Am on my phone after debian install. cannot access wireless internet. #debian dead and #linux off limits, can anyone help me get wired internet working?
[02:20] <bilbocrying> Would much appreciate any help
[02:21] <ravigehlot> Something weird is happening half way through booting; my graphics card starts at 1024x768 booting through grub then drops to a much lower resolution. I am using the intel i950 graphics card. How can I go about fixing it?
[02:22] <panda81> hi. Can I not directly install Ubuntu to a usb drive
[02:24] <ceibal> Hola
[02:30] <Beldar> panda81, yes use a manual install
[02:31] <Beldar> panda81, Full install right?
[02:32] <Beldar> Tots, Keep trying.
[02:32] <Tots> BEldar, I'm trying wireshark atm, but..I have no idea what the hell I"m doing
[02:34] <Tots> are you supposed to be able to ping esper.net?
[02:35] <panda81> Beldar: Well, I downloaded the iso and extracted it. I ran wubi.exe, and I select my e: extern usb drive to install to. Then the installer proceeds to download the iso again for some reason
[02:36] <panda81> and at the end of the download, I get message "permission denied"
[02:37] <Beldar> panda81, wubi is not supported, nor for a usb install.
[02:37] <Beldar> wubi is for running in windows
[02:38] <panda81> oh is that the run directly in windows to get a feel of Ubuntu thing
[02:38] <Beldar> panda81, yes, however not really supported, when it was only user I know was a regular supporter.
[02:39] <Beldar> only one user*
[02:39] <Beldar> panda81, If you want to try it out a vm is workable, so is a dual boot.
[02:39] <panda81> then what do I do to install Ubuntu to usb drive? There is no other .exe I can click in the iso
[02:40] <Beldar> panda81, generally the usb use is  the live install setup, however a full install is possible if the usb is large enough.
[02:41] <panda81> panda81: I'm installing to usb HDD
[02:41] <Beldar> panda81, two types of install a full or just the iso, wheich do you want?
[02:42] <panda81> I wish to use that HDD to boot another desktop
[02:42] <panda81> guessing full?
[02:42] <Beldar> panda81, What other desktop?
[02:43] <Beldar> panda81, Give a full end goal here your terms are confusing is all.
[02:44] <necro606> good evening.
[02:44] <panda81> My desktop s internal HDD failed. The desktop has no other CD drive. I wish to use my external usb HDD to install Ubuntu and power the aforementioned desktop
[02:44] <Beldar> panda81, The internal failed how and what OS?
[02:45] <indeed> hello
[02:45] <panda81> Beldar: It was an 8 year old Raptor drive, recently salvaged to run Win7
[02:46] <cynicallemon> oh here we go...
[02:46] <panda81> perhaps like cars, not using for a long time, it fails two months after being salvaged
[02:47] <cynicallemon> panda81: how do you know its "failed"?
[02:47] <Beldar> panda81, So is the internal drive just a failed boot or is it actually bricked due to HD failure? Your idea is not really a good one at best is all.
[02:48] <panda81> First it was BSOD. Then after reboot motherboard doesn't recognize the drive in any of the SATA slot
[02:48] <Basketball> anyone here use insync
[02:48] <indeed> who is good with wget?
[02:48] <panda81> and no more noise. Usually it's loud
[02:48] <Beldar> indeed, many state the issue.
[02:48] <cynicallemon> panda81: yes raptors are usually louder than most
[02:49] <Beldar> panda81, To install to the external HD you will need an install media a dvd, or another usb to start with.
[02:49] <indeed> could one download all pages of a forum thread with it?
[02:49] <cynicallemon> panda81: and at 8 years its not going to in prime condition
[02:50] <panda81> Beldar: I have two external USB drives. Could I copy the iso's contents into one as the install media
[02:50] <cynicallemon> panda81: yes
[02:51] <panda81> cynicallemon: I ran some profilers the previous night. Must have stressed it
[02:51] <Beldar> panda81, There are usb loaders, and a dd is possible, the iso alone no.
[02:51] <panda81> Beldar: dd? Which usb loader do you recommend
[02:52] <Beldar> panda81, unetbootin works in linux or MS.
[02:53] <Beldar> panda81, I would just use the usb flash not a external HD, it would be easy to wipe that HD with a mistake.
[02:53] <panda81> Beldar: MS Win you mean? I'm on a Win laptop now so I run unetbootin to transform one usb dirve as a media install drive?
[02:53] <cynicallemon> panda81: or if you have access to another windows machine, windiskimager32 will transfer an iso image to usb
[02:53] <Beldar> panda81, yes.
[02:56] <Beldar> panda81, be careful here, I would measure whether what your doing is really needed. I.E. can you just get another HD for the computer, or is it worth saving if you have another computer to use.
[02:56] <panda81> ok downloading. I also remember pendrivelinux
[02:56] <panda81> but that probably installs its own distro rather than ubuntu?
[02:57] <panda81> Beldar: I have no other spare. And ordering one takes a week
[02:57] <Beldar> panda81, You seem to be lost in general in this, be careful, one wrong move and you could wipe important data is all.
[02:57] <_4ls> Anybody here know how I can download files from fileice without the surveys?
[02:58] <panda81> Thanks for the reminder. The disks have no important data
[02:59] <uRock> _4ls wrong IRC
[02:59] <Beldar> _4ls, Not a support issue, WOT has a huge red flag on it as well.
[02:59] <_4ls> sorry
[02:59] <panda81> In fact, Linux is my only option because I think it can adapt to changed motherboard. If I use my laptop to install Win7 to usb drive, plugging that drive to my desktop won't work
[03:00] <Beldar> panda81, W7 wont run on an external.
[03:00] <boldfilter1> Omg, hello ubuntu
[03:00] <panda81> Beldar: there are some guides online to do it. Not very trivial
[03:01] <Beldar> panda81, We wont help you.
[03:01] <Beldar> it is illegal
[03:01] <Beldar> just a whole set of bad ideas, I'm finished
[03:01] <panda81> http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7-to-usb-external-hard-drive-must-read/
[03:06] <panda81> alas unetbootin doesn't recognize external hdd
[03:08] <cynicallemon> panda81: download and try windiskimager32 if on windows
[03:08] <panda81> cynicallemon: I wonder if something is wrong it doesn't recognize a flash drive I plugged in either
[03:09] <panda81> ok pendrivelinux's can do it
[03:10] <panda81> persistant file size for storing change I should leave at 0?
[03:10] <ObrienDave> panda, if you're going to keep it as a system, you need persistence
[03:10] <cynicallemon> if it only going to be used as an install media then yes
[03:11] <panda81> oh can I install directly as a reusable system? Earlier I thought I need to create an install media drive first
[03:12] <bentinata> Does anyone here care to explain (or give me a link) differences of iBus and xim?
[03:12] <afranio> Hi everyone! This is my first connection on IRC.
[03:13] <cynicallemon> panda81: you can use it as a live system
[03:13] <cynicallemon> panda81: theoretically you could plug the usb drive into any pc/laptop and use it
[03:14] <boldfilter1> So ya, can't login for 14.04 after fresh install. Just goes back the login
[03:14] <cynicallemon> boldfilter1: welcome to ubuntu
[03:15] <panda81> cynicallemon: yes that's my only choice, as Windows can't do that
[03:15] <boldfilter1> Thanks
[03:15] <bentinata> Hi afranio.
[03:15] <cynicallemon> boldfilter1: silly question but is it the correct password youre using
[03:16] <boldfilter1> It is...if I put in the wrong one it thinks a bit
[03:16] <afranio> Hello <bentinata>
[03:16] <boldfilter1> I've reinstalled twice
[03:16] <ObrienDave> boldfilter1, there is an easy fix, dang if i remember how to fix it
[03:17] <Beldar> boldfilter1, Have you tried a tty login than to the desktop?
[03:17] <cynicallemon> ObrienDave: install debian?
[03:17] <ObrienDave> naw
[03:17] <boldfilter1> I can login alt+ctrl+f3
[03:18] <boldfilter1> And if I delete the .Xauthority file it just hangs
[03:18] <afranio> Well <bentinata>.. I'm studying Linux on "LFS101x Introduction to Linux" right now and I just test IRC comment on the contents material.
[03:19] <bentinata> Ah, an college student.
[03:20] <Beldar> boldfilter1, check post 3
[03:20] <Beldar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233593
[03:20] <Beldar> afranio, bentinata If you all want to chat use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <bentinata> Thanks for reminding me, Beldar. :)
[03:21] <bentinata> Sorry.
[03:21] <Beldar> no biggie. ;)
[03:23] <afranio> Sorry and thanks this adv <Beldar> :-)
[03:23] <delinquentme> OK so whats a really good way to quickly beat the fooey out of my RAM? Im sitting at best buy trying to sort out if both of the RAM sicks I've got sitting in my machine are funcitonal ...
[03:24] <delinquentme> the last one seemed to crap out after a while ... and im trying to sort out if the ram is bad asap ... I just tried opening a TON of tabs and well its holding up :D
[03:24] <Beldar> delinquentme, No quick way, you should run a mem test.
[03:24] <ObrienDave> delinquentme, mersenne prime test will kick the snot out of RAM
[03:24] <delinquentme> Beldar, so just the thing on the bootup tools for my lenovo laptop?
[03:25] <Beldar> delinquentme, It in the grub menu or on a live.
[03:34] <bentinata> delinquentme, yep that "thing on bootup". It takes a while tho.
[03:35] <incognito> After running the update manager. (google chrome was updated) chrome is running notoriously slow. Are other people reporting this problem?
[03:37] <shadaloo> DUDES - i just got a new samsung monitor and when I try to use it with ubuntu it does not work, when I try to boot with the live USB it works up until the "TRY UBUNTU / INSTALL UBUNTU" screen, in which it looses signal
[03:37] <shadaloo> can someone help?
[03:37] <shadaloo> connecting it via HDMI
[03:39] <Beldar> incognito, None we have seen, personally I run any browser with nothing saved but the bookmarks, it will slow down with a big cache and coolies.
[03:39] <Beldar> cookies*
[03:40] <shadaloo> hey Beldar
[03:40] <shadaloo> can you help me get my display working
[03:41] <shadaloo> ubuntu detects it but the display receives no signal
[03:41] <awsation> shadaloo: does this happen when it's connected via HDMI only ?
[03:41] <shadaloo> awsation: i don't know it's the only cable i have
[03:41] <shadaloo> awsation: however i used the same HDMI cable to play a DVD and it works fine
[03:41] <awsation> does it have a VGA connection that you can try out and see if it happens there as well.
[03:42] <shadaloo> it does but I do not have the cable
[03:42] <shadaloo> I know it works because it shows the kernel loading
[03:42] <shadaloo> and the initial hardware recognition
[03:42] <shadaloo> then it gets to login
[03:42] <shadaloo> nada
[03:42] <shadaloo> i'm currently on a 1024x768 display
[03:43] <shadaloo> is it possible to change the X to 1920x1080
[03:43] <bentinata> Maybe too high frequency?
[03:43] <shadaloo> what is high frequency :s
[03:43] <shadaloo> ubuntu recognizes the display
[03:44] <shadaloo> in displays when I have both plugged in
[03:44] <shadaloo> but it does not get a signal to the display
[03:44] <incognito> Beldar Yeah, even though I am a web developer, I don't have one extension installed. I'll have to look at the cache and cookie settings.
[03:44] <awsation> same as in here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/234153/external-monitor-recognized-but-getting-no-signal
[03:44] <bentinata> Well, higher resolution need higher frequencies. E.g: my screen 1366×768 have 75Hz frequencies.
[03:44] <shadaloo> let me read
[03:46] <saruji_> Hello room! Quick question on window snapping, I googled to no avail.  Snapping windows to the bottom (like windows win-key+arrow or dragging) works but side to side does not, how can i remedy this?
[03:48] <incognito> shadaloo are you currently using the computer that you want to run the samsung monitor on with?
[03:48] <shadaloo> yes
[03:48] <saruji_> Hello room! Quick question on window snapping, I googled to no avail.  Snapping windows to the bottom (like windows win-key+arrow or dragging) works but side to side does not, how can i remedy this?
[03:48] <shadaloo> ubuntu recognizes 2 displays
[03:48] <incognito> Is it running ubuntu?
[03:48] <shadaloo> my 1024x768
[03:48] <shadaloo> yes
[03:49] <shadaloo> i'm running 14.04
[03:49] <incognito> is the hdmi connected right now?
[03:49] <shadaloo> yes sir
[03:50] <incognito> shadaloo run this command: cvt 1920 1080 60
[03:51] <shadaloo> # 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz
[03:51] <shadaloo> Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[03:53] <jctech2020> how do I install ia32-libs in 14.04?
[03:55] <shadaloo> incognito: any ideas?
[03:55] <incognito> shadaloo now you see the Modline copy everything from and including that quotation mark. then in the terminal type:     xrand --newmode            with one space after newmode paste the line that you copied
[03:55] <uRock> does gnome keyring only pop up by default when the user has set the account to log in automatically?
[03:55] <shadaloo> ok thx
[03:55] <shadaloo> will try
[03:56] <awsation> jctech2020: giyf! http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[03:56] <OerHeks> jctech2020, no need for ia32--libs anymore, ubuntu is multiarch, just add <package>:i386
[03:56] <incognito> shadaloo I can't guarantee this will work, but you might have to put in one more command. Let me know if it works. It should work right away.
[03:56] <shadaloo> incognito: so I would run this?
[03:57] <shadaloo> xrand --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"
[03:57] <shadaloo> ?
[03:57] <incognito> Shadaloo no
[03:58] <incognito> shadaloo run this: xrand --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[03:58] <jctech2020> I tried the stack overflow process it no longer works
[03:58] <jctech2020> OerHeks, I am trying to install proprietary printer drivers that needs ia32-libs as dependencies
[03:58] <shadaloo> incognito:
[03:59] <jctech2020> without it it isn't working
[03:59] <shadaloo> No command 'xrand' found, did you mean: Command 'rand' from package 'rand' (universe) Command 'xrandr' from package 'x11-xserver-utils' (main)
[03:59] <kostkon> jctech2020, it's not gonna then
[03:59] <incognito> shadaloo now run this: xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1920x1080_60.00"
[03:59] <jctech2020> ?? there are no alternatives?
[03:59] <kostkon> jctech2020, what kind of drivers
[03:59] <shadaloo> incognito: I do not have xrandr and apt-get says it has been obsoleted
[03:59] <awsation> jctech2020: the answer has been edited to reflect the now non-existent precise-archive.. have you tried that?
[04:00] <jctech2020> brother fax4100e drivers . I downloaded the binary from the website
[04:00] <shadaloo> incognito: However the following packages replace it: x11-xserver-utils:i386 x11-xserver-utils
[04:00] <shadaloo> :s
[04:01] <incognito> shadaloo yeah okay. it's because you have 14.04
[04:02] <shadaloo> im really surprised the live USB 14.04 wouldn't work either
[04:02] <incognito> shadaloo I havn't addressed this problem in 14.04, but I can give you some tips on how to research it
[04:03] <kostkon> jctech2020, tried the suggestions here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/361599/how-to-install-32-bit-brother-drivers-on-64-bit-ubuntu-13-10-or-later
[04:03] <shadaloo> incognito: sure
[04:03] <JCM83> Does Ubuntu register me as "inactive" for purpose of auto-suspend, if I have Terminal up downloading a package?
[04:03] <JCM83> it's a big package.
[04:03] <incognito> shadal00 You should try the live 12.04 are you running 64 bit or 32 bit?
[04:03] <JCM83> I want to go to sleep.
[04:04] <Beldar> JCM83, The OS is off in a suspend
[04:04] <shadaloo> incognito: hrmmm
[04:05] <shadaloo> i could try 13.xx
[04:05] <shadaloo> i have it on a disk
[04:05] <shadaloo> i guess i will just give it a go
[04:05] <shadaloo> incognito: thx for your help mate
[04:05] <shadaloo> cheers
[04:07] <incognito> shadaloo search google with something like ubuntu 14.04 screen resolution problems samsung (put the model of your monitor here) monitor
[04:08] <incognito> shadaloo also put hdmi in the mix
[04:08] <JCM83> Beldar, yes. Right now the OS is on, and it's downloading a giant package (3.5gb). If I turn off the monitor and walk away, will it finish the download and then wait 30 minutes and suspend, or will it wait 30 minutes from when I walk away?
[04:08] <JCM83> So, will the ongoing install process be considered "active" for the purposes of the auto suspend.
[04:08] <incognito> That's how I found the solution when ubuntu could't see my acer monitor
[04:08] <jctech2020> thanks kostkon it doesn't work. I'll just downgrade to 12.04
[04:09] <Beldar> JCM83, Monitor off is not a suspend. If you suspend you have no download.
[04:09] <Noiro> errr guys, after recent updates, my DNS is acting really funky. Connection to IRC servers is wonky and seems unstable. What's going on? I'm using Google's DNS in the Unity pane
[04:09] <JCM83> Beldar, nevermind, you aren't understanding the question.
[04:10] <Beldar> JCM83, Your question is will a terminal download stall a suspend.
[04:10] <Anolado> greeter
[04:10] <Anolado> need to chat in pm
[04:10] <Anolado> urgently
[04:10] <JCM83> An auto-suspend, specifically.
[04:11] <somsip> !pm | Anolado
[04:11] <JCM83> The answer is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170307/how-does-ubuntu-determine-inactivity-before-suspending
[04:11] <kostkon> jctech2020, still asking for ia32-libs?
[04:11] <awsation> jctech2020:  I wouldn't be surprised if Brother did not have an Ubu14.04 driver ready..do they mention that on their support page ?
[04:11] <greeter> sorry Anolado i don't accept private messages on freenode
[04:12] <Anolado> ah
 just out of curiousity, what's the point of using a public dns ? Doesn't any isp provide you with a working one ?
[04:12] <Anolado> anybody here into felching?
[04:12] <Anolado> it is a great new ubuntu utility
[04:12] <Anolado> for checking the integrity of your packages
[04:12] <somsip> Anolado: stop now
[04:12] <kostkon> jctech2020, you can always force dpkg to ignore the dependencies.
[04:13]  * Anolado sprays his spicy diarrhea with shrimp tails and corn chunks into somsip's face
[04:13] <somsip> !ops | Anolado (trolling...badly)
 what's your issue again ? I never had problems with brother drivers under linux
[04:14] <jctech2020> that's the problem, the driver is not a .deb file. it is a bash script
[04:15] <incognito> Is there a way to see what the last version of google-chrome browser was on my system? I know it was whatever ubuntu 12.04 updated in the Update Manager. Is there a history of the update manager. Does Ubuntu keep a list of Update Manager versions online?\
[04:15] <jctech2020> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=fax4100_us&os=128&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
 no need. I you pick the whatsoever definition file, you can install brother printers manually with cups
[04:15] <qwerkus> I actually never used the script
[04:16] <incognito> jctech2020 brother makes deb file drivers... that's got to be the best option
[04:16] <jctech2020> I tried the lpr.deb file is broken
[04:17] <awsation> jctech2020: hmm..was released before ubuntu's 14.04 release date..
[04:17] <incognito> jctech2020  is that the driver which brother developed?
[04:17] <OerHeks> jctech2020, the site gives install instructions >  dpkg -i --force-all  (lpr-drivername)
[04:18] <incognito> jctech2020   did you download it from the official brother website?
[04:18] <kostkon> jctech2020, you could edit the script and remove the lines about ia32-libs and convert the rest to package_name:i386
[04:19] <jctech2020> I keep getting the errors were encountered while processing fax4100lpr
[04:19] <jctech2020> i tried the apt-get install -f
[04:19] <jctech2020> get the same error
[04:19] <incognito> anyone know if ubuntu keeps an update history for update manager? I want to find out what the previous version for chrome is on 12.04
[04:20] <thurstylark2> Has anyone been able to host an OS X guest under a ubuntu server host running on apple hardware?
[04:20] <Finrod> How many megabytes will PlayOnLinux use when fully installed?
[04:20] <OerHeks> thurstylark2, UELA does not allow that, i think little chance you find someone here.
[04:21] <somsip> incognito: /var/log/apt-get/history.log (might record what goes on in software centre - not sure)
[04:21] <thurstylark2> OerHeks: I assumed as much. Thanks for the info.
[04:22] <jctech2020> :( oh well
[04:24] <Finrod> HOw many megabytes of RAM space does both Wine and PlayOnLinux require altogether?
[04:24] <ObrienDave> Finrod, as much as it takes to run
[04:25] <Finrod> I am limited to my RAM because I am using a live CD to install them
[04:25] <Finrod> and run them
[04:25] <Finrod> I have 3.25 GB of RAM, is that enough?
[04:26] <uRock> incognito, you may want to give google-chrome-beta a try. I've been using it with no issues for a while now.
[04:26] <incognito> uRock I may try that
 you may want to prepare a custom livecd with wine/playonlinux already preconfigured
[04:28] <Finrod> Wow, that sounds like a good idea, qwerkus, but how do I do it?
[04:29] <qwerkus> Finrod: actually never did it under ubuntu. Slackware livecds ruled back in the days for security checks. But this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization sounds actually very easy
[04:30] <uRock> Finrod, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:30] <uRock> qwerkus, beat me to it
[04:30] <qwerkus> uRock> :)
[04:33] <incognito> somsip the apt/history.log is showing it. Apparently the first parameter is the previous version. chromium-browser-l10n:i386 (36.0.1985.125-0ubuntu1.12.04.0~pkg897, 37.0.2062.94-0ubuntu0.12.04.1~pkg909)
[04:34] <incognito> somsip but the chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra were also updated. I wonder if those ffmpeg extras will work just fine in the previous version of chrome 36.0
[04:35] <azad_> what is the best online course to learn ubuntu server management ?
[04:35] <somsip> incognito: no idea about that
[04:36] <incognito> BTW why is chrome only able to play about 10 percent  of the videos I try to play on youtube or other sources? It often says I don't have the latest flashplayer version, but ununtu is the one who keep flashplayer updated.
[04:36] <Loshki> incognito: I prefer the installation log at /var/log/dpkg.log.
[04:37] <incognito> Loshki I will take a look at that
[04:38] <panda81> Hmm is the installer stuck? Been 20 minutes since "Creating the Persistent File: The progress bar will not move until finished." displayed by the Pendrivelinux installer
[04:38] <Loshki> incognito: most of the browser problems went away when I install pepperflash http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[04:43] <panda81> I maximized the persistent file size when asked, hopefully that doesn't lead to long delays
[04:44] <incognito> Loshki I'm running 12.04, but I found a tut for installing pepper flash for 12.04 on ubuntu geek
[04:45] <jctech2020> ok so I downgraded to 12.04 and the printer script installer worked like a charm
[04:46] <incognito> Loski there is no dpkg.log in /var/log either that is 12.04 specific or it's cause I don't think I ran dpkg since I recently installed on this box
[04:50] <Finrod> thanks Querkus
[04:50] <Finrod> qwerkus
[04:50] <Finrod> sorry
[04:53] <zeus_> msg NickServ REGISTER psychedelic prakhartheprakhar@yahoo.com
[04:54] <Beldar> mmm yahoo
[04:54] <Beldar> spam central
[04:57] <killer> Hey , can I use a windows graphics  driver on a linux system
[04:58] <OerHeks> killer no.
[04:58] <killer> My puolsbo driver doesn't have a 3d acceleration support on linux and is crappy
[05:02] <OerHeks> killer, docs say indeed 3D is horrible https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo#Psb_gfx_drivers_.28promising_for_Precise_12.04.29
[05:05] <gde33|2> I'm trying to install from a dvd I just burned, I briefly see a window with boxes and system information, then (where I assume the logo should be) I get a small 3 box window with 2 boxes at the top ---data--- and ---prog--- and a bot at the bottom with err 3
[05:06] <gde33|2> actually first it says err 8 then, when I press a key it changes into err 3
[05:06] <gde33|2> the data box has entries like b: c: d: e: f: 10: 11: 12:
[05:07] <gde33|2> the computer is rather old, is this the funeral window?
[05:08] <gde33|2> the background of the small 3 box window is ubuntu purple
[05:11] <Finrod> qwerkus: Customizing an ubuntu live CD certainly does not look easy, according to the link you sent me, especially for someone like me, who grew up using Windows.  It looks like only a programmer could possibly create his own live CD like that
[05:12] <Finrod> It looks like it would be much easier to just run a live CD and install Wine alone, to see if I can get Netflix working off a live CD.  Do you think that would work?
 sorry to read that
[05:13] <Finrod> I got 3.25 GB of RAM in my Pavilion PC, so is that enough to get it to work?
[05:13] <gde33|2> before the purple 3 box screen it says: searching for boot record from cd/dvd-..ok
[05:14] <kostkon> Finrod, you can install chrome and use that to watch netflix
 only a test will show you for sure. Alternatively, you might want to have a look into a minimalistic linux approach, to maximized ram and perfromance
[05:14] <thurstylark2> I have a file or directory in my root dir that shows up very strange. When I do ls / it shows up as "?l@@???@8" How do I find out what the '?' characters are?
[05:19] <Finrod> I"m using a xubuntu 14.04 live CD....I think that's pretty minimalist.  Does lubuntu use even less memory than xubuntu?
[05:21] <Finrod> qwerky, how much memory does the pipelight repository use up in RAM for installing Wine with my live CD?
[05:21] <qwerkus> Finrod: I dropped xubuntu because of mem usage. Lubuntu works better on my machine. Yet, if you set up your system carefully, you can get equal performances
[05:21] <qwerkus> Maybe you can try this one: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ seems windows friendly
[05:22] <qwerkus> as for your questions about memory footprints: just test it. The top command gives pretty good usage stats; otherwise ps
[05:23] <qwerkus> http://superuser.com/questions/117913/ps-aux-output-meaning
[05:25] <RoBo_V> Morning Guys !
[05:26] <qwerkus> Finrod: also, iirc, mint (which is ubuntu based) has a livecd with wine preinstalled
[05:27] <Finrod> wow
[05:27] <gde33|2> I've made a drawing of what I see on the screen http://img.go-here.nl/ubuntu32-installation-failure.png
[05:28] <Finrod> I want to try MInt then.  That last link probably takes me there.  I"ll check it out, qwerkus
[05:28] <Beldar> gde33|2, Have you run a sum check?
[05:28] <gde33|2> Beldar: I'm a total noob
[05:28] <Beldar> !md5sum | gde33|2
[05:29] <Finrod> Never heard of iirc, what is that?
[05:29] <gde33|2> Beldar: k
[05:29] <Beldar> gde33|2, be sure the iso and disk are good and burn as an image, never seen what you show.
[05:30] <Beldar> gde33|2, I would boot it to the live desktop before install.
[05:33] <Finrod> What is the relationship between IIRC and Mint (Ubuntu)?  I don't even know what IIRC is.  Is it an operating system?
[05:33] <gde33|2> Beldar: infraRecorder had the check grayed out
[05:33] <Tom_84> Hello. I had unused partition on sda1, Debian on sda2, swap on sda3 and data on sda5. I choose "replace Debian" Xubuntu -installer and it erased whole disk. How can I recover data?
[05:33] <gde33|2> Beldar: I dont see any files on the disk I burned
[05:34] <Beldar> Tom_84, testdisk is probably your best chance
[05:34] <fragar> Can I convert my Ubuntu to Mint without losing my settings or files?
[05:34] <Beldar> gde33|2, I have never used infraRecorder key is a burn as an image is all.
[05:35] <qpo0g> Finrod: IIRC is the acronym for "if I remember correctly"; it's not a piece of software. (At least, in this context.)
[05:35] <Beldar> fragar, Not really, home alone might be okay, I would ask mint.
[05:35] <Beldar> !mint
[05:35] <Finrod> thanks qpo8g
[05:36] <Beldar> fragar, Kinda going backwards though and less support.
[05:37] <Tom_84> Beldar, I am not sure what happening during ext4 formating process. I used "photorec" on whole unused space and it recovered nearly nothing.
[05:37] <Beldar> Tom_84, This is why we have backups.
[05:38] <Tom_84> Beldar, now I know.
[05:38] <Finrod> Where can I find the Linux Mint live CD with Wine pre-installed?
[05:39] <Loshki> Tom_84: I have a nasty feeling it didn't just wipe your partition data, but formatted the disk too, in which case your data is gone, sorry...
[05:40] <Tom_84> if I will make image with say "dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img" on another bigger disk - can I use any other software on this image?
[05:41] <Tom_84> Loshki: OK
[05:41] <ObrienDave> backup? we don't need no stinking backup ;P
[05:43] <akis> i am asking again a problem i faced yesterday in case that someone expert can help me. Yesterday i tried to move from one user account to another , a directory containing other directories and i gave the command sudo mv /home/user/* /home/user_other/ . The system didnt return any error message, worked for a couple of minutes (because the whole directory's size was about 5 gb). After the system returned to command prompt i checked if the files we
[05:43] <akis> re moved to destination user account and i realized that although  the files were not any more in /home/user (source account) there were not also in /home/user_other (destination account). In your opinion  what happened and the files disappeared? Are they still lived somewhere on my disk or they just deleted? Or maybe where just renamed? Is it possible to be transfered somewhere else (i.e. inside root file system)? I have to mention that as i ha
[05:44] <akis> d a copy of these files i returned for a second try and i gave this time cp -r /home/user/directory /home/user_other/ and the whole directory with all subdirectories copied succesfully. But still i am wondering if i made any damage to my system or i sent those files with my first command somewhere else. Any idea? I read that mv command can also rename files https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/mv.1.asp. Is it possible that my files are renamed
[05:44] <akis> and still live in /home (source directory) with new names?
[05:44] <Tom_84> ObrienDave: I use GNU/Linux for about 10 years - starting from Mandrake, then Red Hat, later Debian for few years. I installed many different distributions - it never happened that installer erase all data without prompting
[05:45] <Tom_84> of course its my fault
[05:46] <msx>  /close
[05:47] <Tom_84> akis: maybe you tried to move opened files? idk
[05:49] <akis> Tom_84: no there were not opened.
[05:49] <Finrod> I'm searching in http://community.linuxmint.com/iso for the ISO image of Linux Mint, the version that contains Wine, but I can't find it anywhere.  Does anyone know the name of the version of Linux Mint that contains Wine?
[05:51] <tortib> I'm trying to figure out how I can have postmaster send mail from postmaster@domain.com instead of postmaster@localhost.localdomain
[05:51] <tortib> using postfix
[05:51] <tortib> anyone have any idea?
[05:54] <Ben64> Finrod: mint is not supported here
[05:54] <Finrod> I didn't realize finding a live CD was so much work.  May be I should give up on Linux Mint.  Are there any other versions of Linux besides Mint that have Wine pre-installed?
[05:55] <Ben64> Finrod: you could just install wine
[05:56] <Finrod> They said I need to customize the CD with wine, probably because Wine would use up too much RAM
[05:57] <Finrod> Wine needs to run off a live CD, because last time I installed Wine onto my regular ubuntu OS, it messed up the whole OS, and I had to format the drive and re-install ubuntu
[05:58] <Ben64> that isn't possible, wine can't mess up the whole OS
[05:59] <Finrod> Yeah, it did.  It caused so many problems.  I was running Kubuntu 12.04 when I installed Wine, and it messed up the entire OS.  I had half a dozen problems.  The troubleshooting got so bad, that I just gave up and reinstalled the whole OS
[06:01] <Finrod> That's why I want to try it with a live CD instead. That way, if it messes up my OS again, I can just reboot, since it would only affect my RAM
[06:02] <Ben64> but seriously, installing wine can't do what you're describing
[06:04] <Finrod> Wine was working, but the problems it caused were not worth the trouble
[06:04] <Ben64> Finrod: it can't affect the rest of the system, what problems are you attributing to wine?
[06:05] <Finrod> I probably could have just uninstalled Wine.  But I was already going to install a new OS, so I just formatted the hard drive.  I had everything backed up already, so it was fairly easy.
[06:07] <Finrod> But now I want to try Wine again on a different PC, one that is running Windows
[06:07] <Ben64> Finrod: for like the 4th time, wine doesn't cause an operating system problems
[06:08] <Finrod> Ben64, have you used Wine without any problems?  Which OS were you running it on?
[06:09] <Ben64> Finrod: i use wine almost 24/7 with no problems, ubuntu
[06:09] <panda81> The try ubuntu without installing feature, does that mean I can't save changes or install new software
[06:10] <Finrod> The people in this channel warned me not to use Wine.  I should have listened.  But at least I know what to expect the next time I try it.
[06:10] <Ben64> panda81: all changes to the system while on that will be lost
[06:10] <Ben64> Finrod: what? wine works fine. i have no idea what you're on about
[06:10] <Finrod> Which version of ubuntu are you running Wine on?  and which version of Wine are you using, Ben?
[06:11] <panda81> Ben64: what if ran on a flash drive or hdd drive?
[06:13] <Ben64> Finrod: none of that matters, wine has worked great for many years, and i suspect it will continue. i never see anyone in this channel have problems with it
[06:13] <Finrod> Of all the problems I had with Wine, the most annoying was that every time I accidentally clicked on a DOS executable file, it would automatically install the file onto the ubuntu system.  It kept doing that over and over.  That's why I had to keep trouble shooting every day, to get rid of all those windows programs, which never should have run on an Ubuntu OS
[06:14] <Ben64> Finrod: sounds like user error
[06:15] <Finrod> Also, one of the Windows programs I installed using Wine, FICS chess, never worked properly on Kubuntu 12.04
[06:16] <Finrod> It was called BabasChess, which ran on the FICS server
[06:20] <rwp> What would be a minimum sources.list for Raring to keep it on life support? Is there an archive for older releases?
[06:21] <Beldar> rwp, why an eol, you would be better with precise.
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !precise | rwp
[06:26] <simon> quit
[06:28] <rwp> I agree that an LTS would be better.  Not my machine.  I am not going to upgrade it.  If the owner wants to upgrade it that is great.  Which is why I was asking about life support.
[06:28] <Ben64> rwp: no such thing, end of life = end of life
[06:28] <rwp> Well that is too bad then.
[06:29] <rwp> Note that this isn't my machine.  I don't care further than just trying to help out.
[06:30] <rwp> Also I was hoping for something like Debian has with archive.debian.org for older out of support releases.
[06:30] <rwp> But if Ubuntu doesn't have anything similar that is okay.
[06:36] <cfhowlett> rwp, if your friend intends to be online, the best way to help is to guide him to a supported release.  End-of-life = no security updates.  no security updates + internet = compromised machine = tears and gnashing of teeth.
[06:37] <aruzicka> hello
[06:38] <cfhowlett> aruzicka, ask your ubuntu question
[06:39] <geirha> rwp: it does
[06:39] <aruzicka> oh, this is a problem only channel?
[06:39] <geirha> !eol | rwp
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !topic | aruzicka you can answer or ask ubuntu questions
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !ot | aruzicka
[06:40] <aruzicka> k, thanks
[06:40] <Infant> hello. how to change this anoying nonsence when new thunar tabs opens previous tab location but not the home folder ~/ ?
[06:44] <rwp> geirha, You said "it does". Great! I read your reference, thanks, but I must be missing where an archive might exist.
[06:44] <rwp> cfhowlett, Online is relative. It is basically a toaster living in a closet on a private network.
[06:45] <feerism> hello
[06:45] <cfhowlett> rwp, OK, well, if it passes his risk analysis, go for it!
[06:45] <geirha> rwp: When upgrading an EOL release to the next release, you first have to make sure all the packages are updated to the latest versions for that release. To do that you switch to the old-releases repo. See the eol upgrade instructions
[06:45] <cfhowlett> feerism, ask your ubuntu question
[06:46] <Zenock> Hi... I was having trouble getting my USB microscope to work.  I finally got it working and documented the steps I took here.  My post is the last one in the thread.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228130  I would like to know what I did wrong.
[06:47] <rwp> geirha, Ah! I see the old-releases section now. Thank you!
[06:47] <Zenock> I have a suspicion that I compiled and installed way more drivers than I needed to.
[06:47] <rwp> And agreed. Upgrades need to happen from known release to known release so for upgrading would need to get to the latest of the last point release before upgrading.
[06:47] <Zenock> But I don't know how to isolate just the uvcvideo driver.
[06:48] <feerism> what is the best sandbox for apk analysis?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> feerism, ask www.xdadevelopers.com             they do that stuff all the time
[06:49] <feerism> cool
[06:50] <bitemyapp> if I'm using xmonad (not Gnome/Unity), how do I set my keyboard language to something other than en_US?
[06:52] <rwp> cfhowlett, Mhy own opinion is that he should have based his project on an LTS from the start. Instead he chose Raring for unknown reasons. He is in New Zealand. I am in the US. The hardware is here. I was asked by the boss to get it on the net a day ago. I don't even know what his project is. And I am not an Ubuntu person so mostly banging around getting it going.
[06:53] <cassio3> rwp, what distros do you know?
[06:53] <cassio3> or do you not know linux at all?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Understoodl.  Take a bet:  WHEN his system gets compromised, all the blame will blow back on you.  AND your boss will not defend you.  $10.
[06:54] <rwp> bitemyapp, Try 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' and set your new keyboard there.
[06:54] <rwp> cfhowlett, I am not a betting person. But unlikely it would come back to me.
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: can I do it non-interactively?
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: I'd like to have it on a keyboard shortcut.
[06:55] <rwp> cassio3, I am a Debian type person.
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: I don't want to have to go through that prompt everytime I flip between Japanese and English, which can happen multiple times a minute or even per sentence.
[06:55] <rwp> bitemyapp, Are you wanting to switch back and forth between two different language keyboards?
[06:55] <cassio3> I know this is off-topic, but where's the best place to go for drupal support?
[06:55] <bitemyapp> rwp: yes please.
[06:55] <cassio3> I was using drush
[06:55] <cassio3> and I sort of broke something
[06:55] <bitemyapp> cassio3: wherever the devs hang out probably.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !info drupal
[06:56] <cassio3> I once installed drupal by hanging out here
[06:56] <cassio3> :-)
[06:57] <rwp> bitemyapp, Hmm...  Switching keyboard languages on the fly. I can see why that would be useful. But not having needed that myself I don't know how to do it.
[06:58] <bitemyapp> Nuts.
[06:59] <bitemyapp> rwp: thanks anyway!
[06:59] <rwp> bitemyapp, Basically the keyboard-configuration package sets up /etc/default/keyboard and X reads it at start.
[06:59] <rwp> That sets it up once for the window system. But I am sure it is possible to change it dynamically. I just don't know how.
[07:00] <OerHeks> !info drupal7
[07:00] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[07:00] <OerHeks> guide says 6, silly old guide
[07:01] <rwp> bitemyapp, Read the docs on setxkbmap and see if it will do what you want.
[07:02] <rwp> bitemyapp, Probably something along the lines of "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us -option compose:menu" for US and something different for your Japanese keyboard.
[07:03] <Ronnie> Since today my wireless isn't working anymore. Yesterdag it worked perfectly. I tried booting an old kernel, (3.13.0-24 instead of 3.13.0-35) but that did not work. I'm using Trusty. "lshw -C network" gives me one "network UNCLAIMED" with product: RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe ; vendor: Ralink corp.
[07:07] <rwp> bitemyapp, Hint: Running setxkbmap flushes my xmodmap settings. So for me I need to run setxkbmap followed by xmodmap to keep both working.
[07:10] <netlar> I have a silly question.  When I am on the desktop and not in an app and when I start typing as box shows up in bottom of screen and shows the words I type.  Is that part of the OS?
[07:11] <cassio3> netlar, that sounds like unity search?
[07:12] <netlar> Here is a screen shot, what I am talking about is in the lower right of the screen http://imgur.com/tbdgCzs
[07:13] <selig5> netlar: that highlights filenames and folders on the desktop
[07:13] <selig5> then you can just hit enter to open the file or folder
[07:14] <netlar> selig5: All it appears to do is record what I am typing
[07:14] <netlar> Ok, sorry yes I get it
[07:15] <netlar> But that is part of the OS right?
[07:15] <selig5> netlar: when it matches a filename on the desktop that will be highlighted.
[07:15] <netlar> selig5: That is a nice feature, if you lots of docs on the desktop
[07:16] <selig5> netlar: I agree
[07:17] <netlar> selig5: Is there a good book I can get.  Seems like I may be missing lots of hidden gems concerning the OS
[07:17] <cfhowlett> !manual | netlar,
[07:18] <cfhowlett> netlar, there's also the "official ubuntu book" if you want to buy the latest issue or try www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[07:18] <rwp> geirha, That was just what I was looking for. Allowed me to install a couple of needed things and get out. Thank you!
[07:18] <netlar> cfhowlett: Thanks, I will check that out
[07:26] <dyu> what has higher precedence? hosts.allow or iptables? (i'm guessing iptables)
[07:27] <rwp> dyu, iptables is in the kernel and happens before tcpwrapper's hosts.allow.
[07:27] <dyu> rwp: alright. thanks!
[07:27] <smoalne> hello
[07:27] <TongKhanh> hi smaboshe_
[07:28] <cfhowlett> smoalne, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:30] <yellabs-r2> can i wipe the uefi partition on an hp labtop to install ubuntu ? or should it stay ?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, do not wipe EFI!
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !uefi | yellabs-r2
[07:32] <yellabs-r2> on booting an ubuntu 14.04 it drops back to shell, could it have wiped the efi  by accident ?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, not by accident - but user authorization only, i.e. YOU.
[07:33] <yellabs-r2> hmm, on installing i choose , "use whole disk" , did that remove efi ?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, probably not
[07:34] <WeiJunLi> how to fix this -> http://bpaste.net/show/03b831503915 ?
[07:34] <yellabs-r2> okey, i will check with live usb later..
[07:34] <yellabs-r2> thanks for the info..
[07:34] <yellabs-r2> and helping me think.. :)
[07:35] <ma_di> #join debian
[07:36] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, happy2help
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !details | WeiJunLi
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !cn | WeiJunLi
[07:47] <WeiJunLi> ubuntulog: I am not chinese.
[07:47] <WeiJunLi> ubottu: How can I elobarte, I just tried to run the .exe file with wine32 and gave me that error
[07:48] <OerHeks> WeiJunLi, you should give more info, what exe, what version ubuntu, and did you check #winehq for help and its database?
[07:48] <akis> does anyone know where in /root lives printer's driver?
[07:49] <akis> does anyone know where in /root lives printer's driver?
[07:49] <akis> sorry by mistake i duplicated my msg
[07:51] <OerHeks> akis, in /etc/cups/ppd/
[07:52] <yellabs-r2> hee OerHeks, groeten uit nederland ! :)
[07:52] <yellabs-r2> :P
[07:53] <OerHeks> groeten terug .. ow wacht, ik ben ook in NL
[07:54] <OerHeks> long time no see, yellabs-r2
[07:54] <yellabs-r2> uefi brengt mij op mijn knieen
[07:55] <akis> OerHeks, thank you for your answer. i installed a samsung printer series 2160 using recommended by the system driver but it didnt work and i delete it and then i installed the driver from samsung's official site and i reinstall the printer and works perfectly. do you know if the previous driver installation remains in my /root or it is gone with printer's deletion?
[07:56] <OerHeks> akis, if you find only one driver in /etc/cups/ppd/ then the first one is removed. i have no issues with the standard package for samsung.
[07:59] <akis> OerHeks, actually the standard packaged recommends another's type driver (as far as i remember 2155 or something like that) the official worked perfectly. everything is ok now, but i am still worry if something no unusable remain in /root
[08:02] <gol1> exit
[08:03] <djdr1988> are there any good free defrag programs for ubuntu?
[08:04] <DJones> djdr1988: Generally, defrag isn't needed on Linux systems
[08:04] <DJones> !defrag | djdr1988
[08:05] <djdr1988> ok. I wont worry about it then. thank you
[08:05] <akis> OerHeks, under /etc/cups/ppd exists only my new one printer's configuration.
[08:06] <OerHeks> akis then you are fine :-)
[08:07] <akis> OerHeks, brilliant! thank you for your advise. can i ask you something else?
[08:08] <OerHeks> akis, sure, maybe we can help
[08:08] <akis> ok. Yesterday i tried to move from one user account to another , a directory containing other directories and i gave the command sudo mv /home/user/* /home/user_other/ . The system didnt return any error message, worked for a couple of minutes (because the whole directory's size was about 5 gb). After the system returned to command prompt i checked if the files we
 re moved to destination user account and i realized that although  the files were not any more in /home/user (source account) there were not also in /home/user_other (destination account). In your opinion  what happened and the files disappeared? Are they still lived somewhere on my disk or they just deleted? Or maybe where just renamed? Is it possible to be transfered somewhere else (i.e. inside root file system)? I have to mention that
[08:08] <akis> as i ha
 d a copy of these files i returned for a second try and i gave this time cp -r /home/user/directory /home/user_other/ and the whole directory with all subdirectories copied succesfully. But still i am wondering if i made any damage to my system or i sent those files with my first command somewhere else. Any idea? I read that mv command can also rename files https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/mv.1.asp. Is it possible that my files are r
[08:09] <akis> enamed
[08:12] <trijntje> akis: use baobab to scan your full filesystem, if the files went somewhere you will find them
[08:13] <OerHeks> i think you copied them with user credentials, does "sudo ls -l " show them? ( in the new folder)
[08:14] <Hobbyboy> I'm having trouble with X11vnc and XRDP, when I remote in to the computer, the desktop environment doesn't start up
[08:15] <akis> trijntje, thank you for your advise. i used FM find tool and i didnt find something searching with size margins (as one file was 1,4 gb) but still i am wondering what happened. how baobab works? as a finder tool?
[08:16] <rik__> ciaooo
[08:16] <geirha> akis: du -sxh /home    does it indicate that /home holds at least 5G ?
[08:17] <akis> geirha: how much is expected to hold?
[08:18] <geirha> akis: on a fresh system, it probably only holds a meg or so
[08:19] <geirha> akis: Just trying to figure out if the files are still under /home.   du -sxh /home/*   should also be useful
[08:20] <akis> geirha, i already copied my personal files (documents, pictures etc) so it is difficult to calculate
[08:20] <geirha> ok ... weren't those missing? I must've misunderstood then, nevermind.
[08:21] <Baako> hi. how do i burn ubuntu 14.04 unto a cd?
[08:21] <Baako> dvd
[08:21] <geirha> Baako: follow the instructions from the download page
[08:22] <RoBo_V> swap space is necessary ? i Have 8GB ram
[08:22] <eeee> RoBo_V: do you want to hibernate?
[08:22] <RoBo_V> I do it it sometimes
[08:23] <eeee> then make a ~9GB swap
[08:23] <RoBo_V> if no hibernate no swap needed ?
[08:23] <akis> geirha, on my opinion the files myst be gone (not move, not rename) but i am still wondering why/how did this happen?
[08:23] <eeee> unless you think you could run out of memory
[08:23] <Baako> geirha i have download 14.04. I right click and i got some windows options and one of the options is "burn disc image"
[08:24] <roadtrip> >how can i move a avi file from one user to another in same computer?
[08:24] <ikonia> roadtrip: just move it somewhere the other user can see it
[08:24] <geirha> akis: given that you used sudo, a tiny typo could cause the files to end up outside /home without any warnings or errors
[08:24] <eeee> akis: what is your problem?
[08:24] <geirha> !burning | Baako
[08:25] <eeee> akis: can you please reiterate?
[08:26] <apb1963> Hobbyboy: Try x2go instead
[08:26] <roadtrip> ikonia; How can i do that in terminal?
[08:26] <ikonia> roadtrip: cp (copy) or mv (move) the file
[08:27] <roadtrip> ikonia: I am getting " Permission denied" message
[08:27] <ikonia> roadtrip: where are you trying to move/copy it to
[08:27] <intgr> Hi! I installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 using mdadm RAID1 and after moving around the disks between SATA ports, it now fails to boot with: "mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/... on /root failed: Device or resource busy"
[08:27] <captcavy> hello there
[08:27] <akis> eeee, thank you for your interest. have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8231154/
[08:27] <captcavy> where can i find
[08:27] <swizgard> hi. is there a way to use the "Acquire::http::Proxy" option dynamically, so that it is used if given proxy is reachable and not if not?
[08:27] <ikonia> intgr: the raid array probably isn't assumbling
[08:27] <captcavy> app for ubantu
[08:28] <roadtrip> ikonia: to admin desktop
[08:28] <ikonia> roadtrip: you don't have permissions for that - put it somewhere you can both see, eg: /tmp
[08:28] <OerHeks> captcavy, softwarecenter
[08:29] <roadtrip> ikonia: I guess /tmp would like share file?
[08:30] <eeee> akis: press ctrl+r , type mv /home , press ctrl+r again until you see the command you used
[08:30] <cynicallemon> you will lose the file in /tmp on a reboot
[08:30] <roadtrip> Ikonia: I will try. Thanks.
[08:30] <ikonia> roadtrip: it's a place both you and the other user can see
[08:30] <eeee> ( do this from the user you used to move the files )
[08:30] <captcavy> how can i unlock
[08:30] <captcavy> :S
[08:30] <captcavy> cuz
[08:31] <captcavy> it was show unble to lock the adminstration directory
[08:32] <OerHeks> captcavy, do you have softwarecenter & terminal open? close terminal, only one instance can use apt
[08:32] <k1l> captcavy: you can only open one program that wants to handle the program repos at a time. so dont open softwarecenter while you have update manager running
[08:32] <OerHeks> k1l +1 or update manager
[08:32] <captcavy> oh okay so
[08:32] <captcavy> i need to close application and jus open one terminal rite?
[08:32] <akis> eeee, i have already deleted history_bash
[08:33] <intgr> ikonia: Why would that result in an EBUSY error? btw, here are the messages: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qe5k9y2pkkgz2v/DSC_0292.jpg?dl=0
[08:33] <OerHeks> captcavy, yes
[08:33] <intgr> But you're right, it doesn't assemble sdb for some reason.
[08:34] <captcavy> yes sir :) i am just opening update manager heehe
[08:34] <captcavy> thaks alots :)))
[08:34] <eeee> akis: type ls -l /home , do you see a "new" username there?
[08:35] <captcavy> which linux os is realli perfect ?
[08:35] <tanghao> why do they quit from here
[08:35] <eeee> captcavy: whatever meets your needs
[08:36] <captcavy> kali os or black box?
[08:36] <k1l> captcavy: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: ubuntu
[08:37] <k1l> captcavy: for other answers better ask in ##linux
[08:37] <captcavy> ann is that not same sir? sorry
[08:37] <captcavy> i dun know i thought it all are same :(
[08:37] <tanghao> i'm using Xubuntu and feel nice
[08:38] <DJones> captcavy: You're in the Ubuntu support channel, so Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu, just try each one on a liveusb and see which you prefer, releases like kali or blackbox aren't supported version of Ubuntu
[08:38] <captcavy> yes
[08:38] <captcavy> i c
[08:38] <captcavy> and another is how can i install  ubantu in to my andriod ?
[08:39] <DJones> captcavy: For installing Ubuntu on an android device, I'd suggest joining #ubuntu-touch thats the channel that deals with the phone/tablet version, they should be able to advise you on which tablets/phones are suitable for installing on and how to do that
[08:39] <k1l> captcavy: how can i install my bmw into my chevrolet?  why do you want ubuntu install into a android? if you want to replace the android OS on your smartphone see if ubuntu-touch is supported from the community for your device
[08:40] <v2zz> is there any way to disallow language change for 1 application in ubuntu? i want to disallow all but english in eclipse
[08:40] <bercerobryz> Hello what are the most essential folders to full backup a server in a tar ball?
[08:41] <captcavy> ohh mr cux i juc saw that from urbuntu website :)
[08:42] <tanghao> how to find the software where i had installed in the system
[08:43] <akis> eeee, 3 users i have already
[08:43] <akis> eeee, all 3 are made by me
[08:43] <eeee> akis: what about ls / , any folders akin to /home ?
[08:44] <tanghao> anybody could give me some supports?
[08:44] <tanghao> plz
[08:44] <bercerobryz> Full server backup recommendation that works in real situations?
[08:45] <v2zz> tanghao ls /usr/bin may give you some tips
[08:45] <v2zz> )
[08:45] <tanghao> thanks very much
[08:45] <akis> eeee, what should i type?
[08:45] <eeee> akis: ls /
[08:46] <eeee> see if there's a folder resembling /home
[08:46] <[L]ight> tanhao: Might wanna use software center. Go to installed.
[08:48] <[L]ight> tanghao: /usr/bin contains software not required by system to run, including command line essentials. You can use ubuntu software center.
[08:49] <akis> eeee, it gives me bin, dev, initrd.img, los+found, opt, run, sys, var, boot, etc, initrd.img.old, media, proc, sbin, tmp, vmlinuz, cdrom, home, lib, mnt, root, srv, usr, vmlinuz.old
[08:49] <bryanz2014> guys, what is your recommendation for a full server backup? preferably HOT backup
[08:49] <tanghao> i had listed the /usr/bin,but i cannot find the soft i am using just now
[08:50] <bryanz2014> @tanghao: find -name 'softwarenamehere'
[08:50] <bryanz2014> @tanghao: find \ -name 'softwarenamehere'
[08:51] <tanghao> thx
[08:51] <tanghao> is there a \ contained in this command?
[08:51] <bryanz2014> yes
[08:51] <tanghao> ok
[08:51] <bryanz2014> \ is root
[08:52] <bryanz2014> lets say for example find \ -name 'zentyal'
[08:52] <bryanz2014> that will list all folders or files that has the name zentyal
[08:55] <tanghao> i had install a software use the package named "sogou_pinyin_linux_1.1.0.0037_amd64.deb",
[08:56] <tanghao> and now i cant find it
[08:56] <tanghao> neither ls /usr/bin nor find \ -name "sougou"
[08:56] <manstermouse> hello, i get "ERR: Couldn't read the first disk sector" when trying to boot HBCD 15.2 from an usb. Script  line used by yumi is COM32 /HBCD/Boot/chain.c32 ntldr=/HBCD/grldr
[08:57] <manstermouse> i dont recall my usb has bad sectors or anything
[08:58] <OerHeks> tanghao, that is an special chinese app, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/450255/installing-sogou-%E6%90%9C%E7%8B%97%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3
[08:58] <tanghao> yes,it's a input method of chinese
[09:01] <tanghao> oh,yes,i got
[09:01] <tanghao> it
[09:02] <tanghao> i had use the command "dpkg -l sougou*"
[09:02] <tanghao> thank you
[09:03] <_blk> tanghao, find \ -name "sougou" << btw, that's the wrong slash,  you probably want /
[09:03] <_blk> (unless you meant to escape that following whitespace but that doesn't make much sense)
[09:08] <tanghao> i had already unist the software by dpkg -P,but there still display the sougou input method in the status bar
[09:08] <bryanz2014> how about a restart
[09:08] <He4dShOt> hello
[09:08] <tanghao> let me try
[09:08] <bryanz2014> also check if there are running services
[09:08] <bryanz2014> service --status -all
[09:09] <bryanz2014> to stop service
[09:09] <bryanz2014> service nameofservice stop
[09:10] <bryanz2014> and run the uninstall command again
[09:11] <He4dShOt> I have a problem...X won't start automatically anymore
[09:11] <He4dShOt> can't understand why
[09:12] <tanghao> as a noob ,i can only reboot to verify my operation,sadly
[09:13] <asher1> someone
[09:13] <asher1> help please
[09:13] <zagaza> hi guys, I am getting 500 oops cannot change directory with vsftpd, don't know where else to ask this, anyone got a clue?
[09:13] <zagaza> it works for all my other folders, but for this one folder it just wont work
[09:13] <dbugger> Hey guys. I am making an script to install a LAMP server, but when I come across this command, 'apt-get install mysql-server', I realized that the installation is interactive (it asks you for the root password). Is there a way to script this step, without needing to have someone in the terminal?
[09:14] <eeee> akis: try this, grep "mv /home" /var/log/auth.log
[09:14] <asher1> i have problem with this libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[09:14] <asher1> how  i can fix this?
[09:14] <zagaza> nvm fixed it
[09:15] <abd_bela> #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <bryanz2014> @zagaza: what was the fix for that?
[09:15] <bryanz2014> is it permissions?
[09:16] <Guest32601_> hi
[09:16] <zagaza> bryanz2014 I had set the wrong folder for the user to own
[09:17] <_blk> asher1, you need to install the development headers for whatever library is missing. apt-file search libpq++.h didn't reveal anything from the ubuntu repositories, so you'll have to find it externally
[09:17] <tanghao> hello,i am back
[09:18] <tanghao> the sougou app had already disappeared after my reboot
[09:18] <_blk> asher1, since you're asking the question I suppose that you're not very used to compiling and the task may prove quite challenging (but that's how you learn) - best of luck!
[09:18] <tanghao> lol
[09:18] <bryanz2014> right
[09:19] <akis> eeee: it returns me the movement. whta shoul i search for?
[09:19] <eeee> akis: search for the command you used,
[09:20] <dbugger> My mind has been blown: "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive"
[09:20] <tanghao> and i had google out a way to find the app had installed
[09:20] <tanghao> yum
[09:20] <tanghao> had you even used it?
[09:20] <tanghao> bryan
[09:20] <tanghao> bryanz
[09:21] <akis> eeee: i found the command and the files i wanted to move and the dirs (source-destination) but what can i understand from this now?
[09:21] <eeee> akis: you wanted to know what happened to the files right?
[09:21] <asher1> ok
[09:21] <janmalte> If I encrypt my home, is it enough to backup the /home/.ecryptfs/ or do I need to backup the /home/USER too?
[09:22] <eeee> asher1: i guess, you could delete the files
[09:22] <akis> yep. the files as i mentioned they dont exist anymore in source either in destination, which are on this log
[09:22] <eeee> sorry, that was for akis
[09:23] <eeee> akis: yes, did you find the command you issued ?
[09:23] <akis> yes i did
[09:23] <asher1> but
[09:23] <eeee> are the files there?
[09:23] <asher1> i no see nothing
[09:23] <asher1> when you tell to me
[09:23] <eeee> what was the command
[09:23] <asher1> write this in Terminal
[09:23] <asher1>  apt-file search libpq++.h
[09:23] <_blk> dbugger, there's a couple of options. chmod +s the file while you're root, then the script will run as root. If for some reason you want to pipe the password from inside the script this might help: https://superuser.com/questions/67765/sudo-with-password-in-one-command-line (though not very safe.. chmod 700 might help a tiny bit), or third, fix up the sudoers file to not request a password for this command/user
[09:24] <asher1> _blk
[09:24] <akis> mv /home/user/dir_name/* /home/other_user/
[09:24] <eeee> asher1: try to install libpqxx-dev, sudo apt-get install libpqxx-dev
[09:25] <tanghao> fuck ,yum can only find the rpm app
[09:25] <ikonia> tanghao: please control your language
[09:25] <ikonia> tanghao: we do not welcome swearing in this channel
[09:25]  * cynicallemon very suprised at that...
[09:25] <tanghao> ...sorry
[09:26] <asher1>  ok
[09:26] <tanghao> iam wrong
[09:26] <Guest38281> i'm 12 years old and what is this
[09:26] <asher1> eee
[09:26] <asher1> i doing this
[09:26] <asher1> what now?
[09:26] <k1l> yum? ubuntu uses the apt .deb package system.
[09:26] <eeee> asher1: run make again
[09:26] <k1l> !topic | Guest38281
[09:27] <akis> eeee, i repeat the command i found in this log is the right one. but the files were disappeared and i repeated the whole procedure using cp -r and new files form my records. so how this log help me to find where the initial files went (if went somewhere and not deleted or renamed)?
[09:27] <eeee> !find libpq++
[09:27] <cynicallemon> Guest38
[09:27] <asher1> again error
[09:27] <Rory> Is there a "neater" way of doing the following? (Find all files below the current directory which do not end in gz, and tail them)
[09:27] <Rory> find  -type f | grep -v gz$ | xargs tail -F
[09:27] <cynicallemon> Guest38281: you need the next door along
[09:27] <asher1> eeee
[09:28] <tanghao> i hadn't aware the yum command a moment ago
[09:28] <asher1> again error
[09:28] <[L]ight> Rory: use grep -i -v [files you want to leave out]
[09:28] <[L]ight> Rory: Scratch that. Misread.
[09:29] <Rory> I know "find" itsself can do a lot of cool stuff, but I tend to mostly pipe its output out to grep and things
[09:29] <Rory> like the pipe to xargs there
[09:29] <dragos> hello
[09:29] <dragos> ubuntu craashes my touchpad
[09:29] <akis> eeee: on my opinion...is it possible nothing was moved because the right command to move all the subdirs and the file inside them is mv -r and not just mv? because in log file i see only the first directory, not the sub dirs, not the files inside them. in this case why the files was gone? very strange for me!
[09:29] <dragos> anybody can help me
[09:30] <asher1> No working
[09:30] <asher1> again error and Error eeee
[09:30] <asher1> you know how i can fix this?
[09:30] <tanghao> is that dpkg -l can only find the software installed by deb package?
[09:31] <xenobyte> hi there! I just installed kubuntu 14.04 and it works like a charm, but my sound does not working.
[09:31] <[L]ight> Rory: Find is hard to master. Especially because it uses X-style parameters.
[09:31] <xenobyte> I ran an alsa-info script which output you can find here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ea9accc08794a5db12f934929ccede13eb367870
[09:31] <xenobyte> I can't find an error-message or something
[09:31] <bryanz2014> xenobyte: you should have checked hardware compatibility before installing kubuntu. or running a livecd to determine which one will not work native
[09:32] <Rory> xenobyte: It's more than likely a different sound device is selected in KDE's audio settings
[09:32] <eeee> akis: mv will copy recursively, -r is for cp
[09:32] <[L]ight> Rory: Make sure it's the right sound device being used.
[09:32] <bryanz2014> xenobyte: could also be your OS doesnt support your audio hardware
[09:32] <xenobyte> bryanz2014: I did, and I ran gentoo before, but I installed kubuntu cause I need a working system for a project asap
[09:32] <Rory> xenobyte: For example, it might be trying to output through the HDMI port on your graphics card; I know my PC does that with KDE
[09:32] <eeee> (mv will move recursively :) )
[09:33] <asher1> ?
[09:33] <eeee> asher1: try sudo apt-get install libpqxx3-dev
[09:33] <xenobyte> Rory: I already changed priority of the sound-devices. Neither hdmi then built-in audio are working
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> h
[09:33] <dragos> kill all
[09:33] <unopaste> dragos you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:33] <bryanz2014> if it was running with live cd, its unlikely that it wont work on an installed OS
[09:34] <akis> eeee: so in this case why didnt move anything, but only made the dirs/subdirs/files disappeared? that is my question. i think you are close...
[09:34] <eeee> asher1: wait, try sudo apt-get install libpq-dev
[09:34] <xenobyte> bryanz2014: please see my link. The kernel seems to work fine with the hardware
[09:34] <asher1> eeee
[09:34] <asher1> again error
[09:35] <akis> eeee: all 3 accounts are encrypted, does this counts?
[09:36] <asher1> eeee
[09:37] <eeee> asher1: what's the error, and what are you ultimately trying to install ?
[09:37] <eeee> akis: don't think so
[09:37] <asher1> i try install something project ircd
[09:37] <asher1> and when i make configure
[09:37] <asher1> i see this
[09:37] <akis> eeee: i dont think so too because cp -r worked perfectly.
[09:37] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[09:38] <xenobyte> Rory: bryanz2014: It seems to be some kind of bug back in ubuntu 12, but it worked with the 14.04 live-cd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2114985
[09:39] <eeee> akis: can you get a filename of one of the files?
[09:39] <akis> eeee: so remains the same question. the command was right (maybe) and is inside the log file, but no trace for lost dir/sudirs/files. are they gone? are they deleted? as far as i can search i found nothing.
[09:40] <akis> eeee: get exactly what? i konw the names of all these files
[09:42] <eeee> asher1:  sudo apt-get install postgresql
[09:42] <eeee> akis: any file
[09:42] <eeee> that is unique to it
[09:42] <akis> ok, what should i do with that name?
[09:43] <eeee> sudo find / -iname <filename>
[09:44] <eeee> that'll ignore caps
[09:44] <eeee> but you have to type the whole filename
[09:45] <akis> eeee: ok, what should i do with that name?
[09:45] <eeee> did it return something?
[09:46] <eeee> ( other than where they are now )
[09:47] <eeee> akis: ah, sudo find / -iname <name>
[09:47] <eeee> replace <name> with the name of the file
[09:50] <akis> eeee: searching...
[09:50] <He4dShOt> how can i look why X is not starting?
[09:51] <eldariond> hi !
[09:51] <blackthor> hello. i appear to have a raid card that isn't supported in the 14.04.1 LTS (linux upstream kernel 3.13.11).   the previous one was supported without issues.  there is a source code available, but i wonder if i can't use a more recent kernel instead of having to compile and add a driver manually (i don't ever want to break the apt-get upgrade)
[09:51] <eldariond> how to reset /dev permission after chmod -R 755 on wrong dire ?
[09:51] <eeee> He4dShOt:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe
[09:51] <He4dShOt> eeee, it's not even creating the file
[09:51] <Baako> hi guys. i just download ubuntu 14.04 LTS. what should i do after installing it?
[09:51] <akis> eeee: found only the one which is in the right user account, on the right subdir after in repeated the procedure with cp -r
[09:51] <eeee> He4dShOt: is this ubuntu?
[09:52] <He4dShOt> eeee, yes
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Baako, you should verify it.
[09:52] <He4dShOt> eeee, I tried to upgrade the nvidia driver and now X won't start anymore
[09:52] <He4dShOt> it is not even trying
[09:52] <He4dShOt> i don't have any error
[09:53] <Baako> cfhowlett thats all?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> Baako, ... oh, I do't know.  Install it?
[09:54] <akis> eeee: does this command search /root too?
[09:54] <Baako> cfhowlett install it then verifty? or verifty before install :~(
[09:54] <akis> searches, sorry
[09:54] <eeee> akis: yes, if you had an external hdd, or other filesystems mounted at the time though it won't
[09:54] <eeee> search them, if they aren't mounted now
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Baako, verify.  then install.
[09:55] <blackthor> He4dShOt: remove the nvidia driver and reinstall the other one ?
[09:55] <He4dShOt> blackthor, I've already tried with 3 different versions
[09:55] <mariachi> hey there! I'm having trouble using a TP-Link 3G "router" (not sure what to call it). When I had windows everything was smooth and fast and now it's suuuuuuuuuper slow, even though wifi n is being used. How can I diagnose what's wrong?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !install | Baako,
[09:56] <dragos> penis
[09:56] <akis> eeee: i suppose that from the time that this search found only one file in the right place is it sure that is not hiding the same file somewhere else?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> dragos, stop it.
[09:57] <dragos> penis
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !ops | drago
[09:57] <blackthor> He4dShOt: keep trying, had same problem as you few months ago.  also ended up removing X entirely en reinstalling it.
[09:57] <cfhowlett> DJones, you are on the case tonight!  tyvm
[09:57] <Baako> cfhowlett am using windows am going to partition a space before installing ubuntu. How can i verifty it via windows cmd?
[09:57] <eeee> akis: i think so
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Baako, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:58] <eeee> akis: is there a particularly large file that was copied?
[09:58] <carlos> hadgfvswKÀGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNWHIPàlgnmdA e
[09:59] <akis> yes there is. one file was 1,4 gb
[09:59] <Guest96699> zjèmzfsnp
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Guest96699, English???
[09:59] <eeee> akis: sudo find / -size +1G
[10:03] <ilfabri> hi all, i'm setting up a minipc with ubuntu 32bit for working purposes. I need to compile a modified kernel to use a pci serial gsm module. i had done everything ok but i get the *.deb files for amd64 (i'm working on an Ubuntu64). How can i generate the debs for the appropriate architecture?
[10:05] <Baako> cfhowlett :( the md5 sum is different
[10:05] <Baako> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:05] <cfhowlett> Baako, then you got a funky download.  it does happen.  use torrent next time.
[10:06] <akis> eeee: paste.ubuntu.com/8231818/  and still working/searching or maybe hangs
[10:06] <Baako> cfhowlett the offical site download is fcked?
[10:06] <eeee> Baako: are you sure?
[10:07] <cfhowlett> Baako, of course not.  but when transferring almost 2 gigs of data, things do go bad from time to time.  bad download = bad iso
[10:07] <Baako> 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd is the one winmd5sum shows and this is the one from the subuntu site dccff28314d9ae4ed262cfc6f35e5153
[10:07] <OerHeks> Baako the 14,04,1 hashes are missing from that page, see here http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS
[10:07]  * cfhowlett doesn't understand why the 14.04.1 hashes are STILL not listed.
[10:07] <OerHeks> your hash number is from the *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:08] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1349715
[10:08] <Baako> OerHeks 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso is the same md5 sum winmd5sum shows
[10:08] <OerHeks> Baako, that is correct
[10:09] <cfhowlett> ... "triaged" ... I think when you say that word, you mean something different than when I say that word.
[10:09] <Baako> OerHeks in that case my download is correct
[10:09] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, not sure confirmed is better than triaged
[10:10] <akis> eeee: paste.ubuntu.com/8231818/  still working, i dont think it goes all right.
[10:10] <OerHeks> "Nobody on the docs team has rights to edit the page, as the person that did has long since left the team.¨
[10:10]  * cfhowlett faceplants to keyboard
[10:11] <eeee> akis: yeah shouldn't take this long
[10:11] <akis> eeee: a ok, what are you conclude with the message i got already?
[10:13] <eeee> nothing, i get the same errors here, but it doesn't hang it
[10:14] <akis> eeee: the HD led lights permanently. i think it hanged.
[10:14] <eeee> try to run again if you want
[10:16] <eeee> akis: if you have any external hdd's , unmount first
[10:16] <akis> eeee: i run it twice. i log out and try for 3rd time. no external devices.
[10:18] <akis> eeee: for a 3rd time the same results and then working and working. who knows why!
[10:19] <akis> eeee: is there any similar command for dirs too?
[10:20] <Junior> hello!
[10:22] <Junior> using live build i can create a hybrid live iso for a ubuntu 14.04. the issue is that it won't boot because ion the casper folder i have initrd.img-3.13.0-35-generic instead of initrd.lz and vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic intead of vmlinuz. any ideeas how to change that directly in live build?
[10:22] <eeee> you could use du -m | awk '$1 > 1000' , but i think there's a better way
[10:22] <eeee> sorry, sudo du -m / | awk '$1 > 1000'
[10:27] <jogwtr> running apt-get update on 10.04 LTS, I get a "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>". anyone else running into this problem?
[10:28] <WeiJunLi> http://pastebin.com/5RfaEws7   help pls
[10:31] <OerHeks> jogwtr, " sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 "  >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[10:33] <waykool99> under /media, in older versions it used to show your own drive. now its hidden somehow. why is that?
[10:34] <jogwtr> OerHeks, already importet the key again, cleared /var/lib/apt/lists, done apt-get clean and then apt-get update again. error message is still there
[10:35] <OerHeks> jogwtr, is this 10.04 server ?
[10:35] <OerHeks> only 10.04 server is still supported, the desktoppackages/repo's are not, maybe that is your issue
[10:35] <jogwtr> OerHeks, yes
[10:37] <OerHeks> jogwtr, oke, then i have no clue
[10:38] <jogwtr> OerHeks, the error happend with the lucid-updates channel. thats still active and has a actual Release.gpg
[10:38] <WeiJunLi> http://pastebin.com/5RfaEws7  - how to fix this error?
[10:38] <yurezkie> привет
[10:40] <k1l> !ru | yurezkie
[10:47] <asher1> ?
[10:47] <WeiJunLi> Anyone can help me with this Openjdk issue?
[10:48] <lmk> hello
[10:49] <lmk> 人还挺多的
[10:51] <deb_ac> hey iptable, a few days ago you told me a command to move all files in a series of subdirectories up the file hierarchy the the main dir that all the subs were in. I had to reformat my hd and didnt write it down.. could you remind me what it is?
[10:52] <deb_ac> I remember it was some variation of find and ended with 'done'
[10:52] <deb_ac> I cant believe I didnt write it down..
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !cn | lmk,
[10:53] <lmk> en?
[10:53] <lmk> write what?
[10:56] <RoBo_V> hey guys if i trying to make 2 partitions in Ubuntu while installing that is / and /home , what minimum size it shouuld be ?
[10:57] <ikonia> RoBo_V: home - totally up to you
[10:57] <ikonia> RoBo_V: for a desktop 10G is a "safe" starting point
[10:57] <RoBo_V> so that iif i have to repalce it in future i dont have to eease /home
[10:57] <ikonia> RoBo_V: it's normally around 4G for the whole system, so 10G is a safe starting point
[10:57] <RoBo_V> just swipe out / and install new.
[10:57] <RoBo_V> ikonia: ok and for root ?
[10:58] <waykool99> Bleachbit does a good job but its so painfully long, like 7 hours. could it be i checked delete all thumbnails? and does go to my other partition a different ver of Ubunu?
[10:58] <mirelb> do not forget also a swap directory
[10:58] <ikonia> RoBo_V: 10G for root
[10:58] <ikonia> RoBo_V: home is as big as you want
[10:58] <waykool99> *Ubuntu
[10:58] <RoBo_V> ikonia: basically what root will fill up with while I operate
[10:59] <ikonia> RoBo_V: no
[10:59] <RoBo_V> packages and all will go to /home right ?
[10:59] <ikonia> RoBo_V: the system is approx 4GB, if you install packages it will go to /
[10:59] <ikonia> RoBo_V: your personal data is in /home hence why it's up to you how big
[11:00] <cynicallemon> waykool99: you probably have the slow options ticked like free disk space and memory
[11:00] <waykool99> yes, you're correct cynical
[11:01] <waykool99> but i uncheck Memory. i don't want it fooling with linux swap
[11:02] <RoBo_V> ikonia: I see, ok
[11:05] <interweb> Hi , Between mplayer and mplayer2 which one is better ?
[11:08] <hrw> hi guys
[11:08] <hrw> which package I have to install to get grub for EFI booting?
[11:08] <OerHeks> interweb, mplayer2 is better, but that is my opinion
[11:15] <dacks> is anyone using LXLE os here? i want to ask how to resize the icons on the desktop
[11:16] <OerHeks> lxle os is not lubuntu, only non-derivates are supported hete, dacks
[11:16] <dacks> oh... ok thanks
[11:16] <OerHeks> i'm not sure they have an own irc-channel
[11:17] <dacks> thanks OerHerks i will just try to look around
[11:22] <lmk> hello
[11:23] <asher1> eeee
[11:24] <asher1> listen this give to me error
[11:24] <asher1> even what you tell to me
[11:24] <asher1> no work
[11:24] <asher1> i used with ubuntu 10.04
[11:24] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[11:30] <iptable> deb_ac, find /path/to/dir -type f |while read fn; do mv "${fn}" /path/to/new; done
[11:31] <iptable> deb_ac, first mkdir /path/to/new
[11:32] <iptable> RoBo_V, my / (with a lot of crap) is 28GB atm. I normally give it 50GB just to be sure it WILL last. If you have the space, do that. If not, then cut it down.
[11:33] <iptable> RoBo_V, that's for desktop, server will obiovusly be different. rest goes to /home (and obviously 1.5*RAM for swap to allow for swap use and hibernation).
[11:34] <deb_ac> iptable, thank you again man. I sincerely appreciate it!
[11:35] <vatarax> Hey ! I have problem on instaling Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS from usb. On select location have erron window. Windows name and errorror info is ??? ??? onyli :( any tip.(redownloading no help. system load from usb work)
[11:40] <sarkyniin> hey
[11:40] <sarkyniin> I did something really dumb and replaced files in /usr/bin with symlinks of other files
[11:40] <sarkyniin> and it gives me a "cannot execute binary file" error
[11:40] <sarkyniin> even by reinstalling the software I deleted the files from, it still gives me the error
[11:40] <sarkyniin> any way to fix my mistake
[11:41] <cfhowlett> sarkyniin, reinstall
 even by reinstalling the software I deleted the files from, it still gives me the error
[11:41] <cfhowlett> sarkyniin, install the OS, not just the files
[11:42] <Valarkin_> Hi. 14.04 server with 6x4 TB drives. Need to get them all acting as a single volume on to which exising /home/ may be moved.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !raid | valarkin
[11:43] <Valarkin_> thanks cfhowlett
[11:43] <iptable> Valarkin_, need redundancy? use raid5/6. Not worried if you loose all data when 1 drive dies? then use raid0 or LVM
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Valarkin_, never done one myself but iptable would know
[11:44] <Valarkin_> How much would I lose to redundancy iptable?
[11:44] <Valarkin_> seriously, seriously noob, so advance apologies ;)
[11:44] <AlbertoP81> ciao
[11:44] <ObrienDave> 50% usually, depends
[11:44] <iptable> Valarkin_, depends. If you use raid5, one drive space.
[11:45] <iptable> ObrienDave, no, 50% is RAID1+0
[11:45] <Valarkin_> So 12TB avail with 1 drive redundancy?
[11:45] <ObrienDave> ok, mirroring
[11:45] <cfhowlett> Valarkin_, it's a great question!  don't feel bad.
[11:45] <iptable> Valarkin_, no, that's incorrect
[11:45] <Valarkin_> oh wait
[11:45] <raub> iptable: raid + LVM perhaps?
[11:45] <Valarkin_> 6x4 = 24
[11:45] <Valarkin_> lol
[11:45] <Valarkin_> so 20 and 1 drive?
[11:45] <iptable> Valarkin_, 1 drive. So with 6x4TB you have usable 5x4TB and 1x4TB is redundancy.
[11:45] <iptable> Valarkin_, so usable 20TB and lost 4TB.
[11:46] <Valarkin_> thats exactly what i am after.
[11:46] <RoBo_V> iptable: good to know, I have cutted tha partition of 50GB in total, should I add more to it ?  Im now making my Ubuntu as primary OS- ditching windows (or for game only)
[11:46] <tanghao> hello
[11:46] <raub> With 6 drives I would consider raid6
[11:46] <Valarkin_> whats the salient difference?
[11:46] <iptable> Valarkin_, that's RAID5. If you want to use 2 drives for redundancy (allowing you to loose any 2 drives in the set), use RAID6. With 6 drives, as raub said, I wouls eriously consider RAID6 instead.
[11:46] <tanghao> here is a software which i cannot receive it by apt-get
[11:46] <iptable> Valarkin_, with RAID6, you will loose 2 drive capacity
[11:47] <tanghao> i had already apt-get update
[11:47] <Valarkin_> Am I likely to suffer a dual drive failure?
[11:47] <Valarkin_> rented dedibox with ovh
[11:47] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, RAID5 = 1 drive loss max and 20TB usable, 4TB not. With RAID6, it's 2 drives max loss and 16TB usable, 8TB not.
[11:47] <raub> tanghao: do you know if said package is available through the repositories you are using?
[11:47] <Valarkin_> I think i will go for raid 5 then - it's the same Is my local drobo :D
[11:48] <raub> Valarkin_: how close are you to the raid if it takes a dump?
[11:48] <iptable> Valarkin_, you will most likely have dual drive failure actually ;). What happens is when you replace a failed drive, ALL drives work overtime to try and recreate the image set on the new drive. This results in massive disk use and could kill another drive.
[11:48] <Valarkin_> it's a rented dedi - they handle hardware fails
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !details | tanghao, are you really expecting us to guess the name of the package????
[11:48] <iptable> Valarkin_, Especially if the drives are same model/make and same manufacturing line
[11:48] <Valarkin_> gotcha - so raid six to be sure
[11:48] <iptable> Valarkin_, it's not about hardware fails though, is it? it's about data lost due to second drive burnout while first one is rebuilding
[11:49] <raub> Valarkin_: what is their response time?
[11:49] <tanghao> the day before yesterday i had installed the app used the same way successfully
[11:49] <Valarkin_> giving me 16 and 2x redundancy
[11:49] <Valarkin_> let me check
[11:49] <tanghao> add the repository firstly,the update
[11:49] <tanghao> and the i apt-get install fcitx-sogoupinyin
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !cn | tanghao,
[11:50] <tanghao> thx
[11:50] <raub> tanghao: post relevant lines from /var/log/apt/term.log
[11:50] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, during installation choose to create 1 partition on each drive, full drive size, type: physical hardware for raid. Then go to raid configuration and choose to create a raid6 array. add all the drive partitions to array and choose "0 spares". Then finish. This will make another "drive/partition" appear which will basically be the RAID6 array of all drives.
[11:51] <Valarkin_> 2 hours looks like for hardware response
[11:51] <unopaste> Valarkin_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:51] <unopaste> iptable you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:51] <unopaste> Valarkin_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:51] <unopaste> iptable you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:51] <unopaste> tanghao you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:51] <unopaste> raub you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:52] <iptable> uhm, what happened?
[11:52] <iptable> have we all been muted for talking too fast?
[11:52] <DJones> The bot got mized with the netsplits
[11:52] <DJones> mixed
[11:52] <cfhowlett> iptable, I'm guessing netsplit
[11:52] <raub> I dunno. Weird netsplit.
[11:52] <Valarkin_> I was
[11:52] <iptable> I'd rather think I was talking this fast :P
[11:52] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, during installation choose to create 1 partition on each drive, full drive size, type: physical hardware for raid. Then go to raid configuration and choose to create a raid6 array. add all the drive partitions to array and choose "0 spares". Then finish. This will make another "drive/partition" appear which will basically be the RAID6 array of all drives.
[11:52] <Valarkin_> iptable that will wipe any existing data ?
[11:53] <iptable> yes
[11:53] <Valarkin_> is there a way to do it non destructively?
[11:53] <iptable> no
[11:53] <Valarkin_> yay!
[11:53] <iptable> you plan your installation in advance
[11:53] <Valarkin_> oh man, I just got this puppy working :D
[11:53] <Valarkin_> Yeah, I completely blanked it
[11:53] <raub> If you are using the drives to raid, you need to reformat said drives
[11:53] <Valarkin_> as i say, utter noob.
[11:53] <raub> Meh, no worries Valarkin_
[11:54] <Valarkin_> not a biggie, I now know what to do after :D
[11:54] <iptable> Valarkin_, then, I would suggest you do some kind of split, so you could put LVM on that raid partition, and on LVM you can create logical volumes. create 1 for / and 1 for /home and 1 for swap. partition the 3 partitions with respective filesystems and bob IS you uncle
[11:54] <Valarkin_> Lucky os install #15 otw :D
[11:54] <Valarkin_> teh way i was picturing it in my head was parts for sys and swap then one large one for the remaining space
[11:54] <raub> Valarkin_: Yeah
[11:55] <Valarkin_> and /home/
[11:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, 3 parts. 1=/, 1=swap, 1=/home
[11:55] <raub> FYI, in an ubuntu install I have /boot and / outside LVM and then /usr and /var and sometimes /home in it
[11:55] <Valarkin_> that will allow me to reinstall the os without having to mess with the home (assuming I cock things up entirely) ?
[11:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, I covered that already as well, look at my last 2 long responses ;)
[11:55] <metaspike> with a setup like that, what happens if you loose a drive, and cannot replace it?
[11:55] <Valarkin_> rofl, sorry, will do :d
[11:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, yes, it will
[11:56] <raub> iptable: I usually do not use swap, bu if I do, it's up to lvm
[11:56] <iptable> I pout swap on raid
[11:56] <iptable> otherwise when 1 drive dies, swap dies, system dies
[11:56] <raub> iptable: I meant raid->lvm
[11:56] <iptable> you WANT swap on RAID to avoid reboots.
[11:56] <raub> so whether people are in lvm or not they are still in raid
[11:57] <iptable> raub, yes, that's what I suggested. all disks RAID6=>LVM=>3 volumes (/, /home, swap)
[11:57] <raub> iptable: I am old school and like /usr and /var in their ouwn little lvm partitions =)
[11:57] <iptable> ugh, that is old school
[11:57] <ikonia> that's obsolete
[11:57] <ikonia> not old school
[11:57] <iptable> nowadays we prefer and do /, /home and swap only.
[11:57] <iptable> old school = obsolete? :P
[11:58] <ikonia> there are benifits to things like /var or /tmp
[11:58] <iptable> in certain use scenarios
[11:58] <iptable> not for "I'm not sure, general purpose" though
[11:58] <ikonia> there should be no need in the modern distos for /usr to be seperate
[11:58] <raub> ikonia: that would then explain why my ticket about moving /var to its own partition has never been touched
[11:59] <iptable> uhm, why would you need /var on separate partition by default? 99% of cases you want it with the rest of the OS. Only certain use scenarios on certain server installations require own partition
[11:59] <iptable> even /var/run is moved to /run nowadays and /var/tmp is just symlink to /tmp too
[12:00] <raub> metaspike: if you lose a drive in raid6 you might be ok for a while. But don't plan on forgetting that for a week or so
[12:00] <iptable> raub, depends. same drives from same manufacturing line? probably even if swapped immediately you will burn another one while reimaging
[12:00] <geirha> When I realize I made / too small, I partition some space somewhere and make it /usr
[12:01] <ikonia> bad call
[12:01] <iptable> or you could have just change size of /home and /
[12:01] <iptable> otherwise it just gets dirty.
[12:02] <geirha> nah, resizing partitions takes time. making a new partition to replace /usr can be done on the fly
[12:02] <iptable> or do as I do and give your / between 50GB and 100GB and never run out of space on a desktop for /. With 1 or 2TB drives that's not a lot of space.
[12:02] <iptable> on servers, that's another story and depends on use. e.g. I got separate partition on some of the hosts specifically for /var/lib/lxc, but you will know why I don't that ;)
[12:02] <iptable> done that, not don't that
[12:03] <raub> I make / around 2G and never needed more, geirha. Since my /var and /usr are in lvm, I can resize them as needed. Even if, say, /var gets filled (had issues with my syslog server ignoring a host), I am good.
[12:04] <raub> Most of the time I have /usr mounted as ro too
[12:04] <raub> But, I digress
[12:05] <iptable> raub, and instead I like to just use my desktop. am I the only one?
[12:06] <yoyobla> iptable: Use it for what?
[12:06] <geirha> The reason I end up running out of space on / is because the install was made along side my main install and only meant to test the latest Ubuntu release, but then I end up using it all the time because it works so well and suddenly that small install is my main install
[12:07] <iptable> yoyobla, like, browsing, gaming, working (which involves coding and installing VMs), you know. using?
[12:08] <iptable> yoyobla, seems that most people use their desktop as a fiddling ground for experiments. I do that to VMs when I feel like it. My host OS is a simple install with no admin required apart from ocasional upgrades
[12:08] <yoyobla> iptable: I do that with a computer, not with a desktop.
[12:08] <iptable> raub, your install would have exploded in my face. My / (skipping /var and /usr) is 4.5GB. bad decision.
[12:09] <iptable> yoyobla, uhm. word game? desktop computer, in short, my common convention, desktop. let's not go there.
[12:12] <raub> iptable, like everything else it depends on the application. If as you said before you have a 100GB HD, I LVM most of the thing and set it up as I mentioned. If the disk is much smaller, I will probably lean towards a single partition. No one-size-fits-all ;)
[12:12] <mat619> Hi there. I just set up a 14.04.1 server install on a new machine, which shows some weird behavior in regard of display resolution, hope you can help me fix this: During the first stages of bootup the display is native 1280x1024, all is well, but then suddenly right before showing the login prompt the TTY resolution changes to something that looks like 1024x768 on 1280x1024, with blank areas to the right and bottom.
[12:13] <mat619> VGA and display controller is a "Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[12:13] <somsip> mat619: have you installed a desktop on a server install?
[12:13] <mat619> somsip: no, as I mentioned it's a server install
[12:14] <somsip> mat619: attached to a monitor? Using a command line login?
[12:14] <mat619> somsip: yup.
[12:14] <somsip> mat619: k - understand now
[12:15] <iptable> raub, yes, agreed, although for new users who are, as they describe, noob, I would suggesting keeping it as simple and flexible as one can. 1 / + /home + 1 swap. It's new user vs personal preference thing.
[12:15] <somsip> mat619: this might lead you in the right direction http://askubuntu.com/questions/299975/proper-way-to-change-terminal-resolution-in-ubuntu-server-13-04 (and the linked question too)
[12:15] <iptable> raub, like I said, on some servers I have separate partition for /var/lib/lxc and on one I got separate partition per container. on a few I got separate partition for /var/lib/libvirt. depends on use.
[12:16] <mat619> somsip: I found that thread earlier and tried the "hwinfo --framebuffer" command, but a default 14.04.1 server install doesn't have hwinfo, it seems
[12:17] <knob> Good morning everyone...  Is there a vi or vim   for Ubuntu's desktop environment?
[12:17] <marjinal1st> How can I convert my 32 bit WAV samples to 16 bit in Ubuntu?
[12:17] <knob> Instead of gedit... something with  vi's   key bindings?
[12:17] <knob> marjinal1st, I would look into audacity
[12:17] <iptable> mat619, what's the purpose of the excercise? (asking as 99% of "want graphics" cases are desktop GUIs and server cases use ssh or other terminal)
[12:18] <iptable> knob, yes, gvim
[12:18] <geirha> knob: vim-gnome
[12:18] <knob> On my way to check those out... thanks iptable and geirha !
[12:18] <geirha> knob: vim-gnome is the package name, gvim is the command installed by said package
[12:19] <iptable> marjinal1st, GUI or want to script it (in cli)?
[12:19] <knob> OOh... ok ok.   Cool.    I am slowly learning more and more vi, and I like it a lot.
[12:19] <mat619> iptable: the purpose of the excercise is hooking up that machine to the rack's KVM switch with integrated 19" TFT panel, for local and/or emergency maintenance work
[12:19] <knob> blown away by   :.,+10s/foo/bar/g        ... I kid you not!
[12:19] <iptable> mat619, so for emergency work. I would think the server will be configured for low graphics per design.
[12:20] <iptable> knob, yes, it IS much better than others. note that if someone asks you to write something in their "notepad", you will end all your text files with :wq :/ I keep doing that
[12:21] <cfhowlett> marjinal1st, avconv will do that.
[12:21] <iptable> mat619, is it that important to have good graphics enabled on a server for terminal emergency access via KVM that you are prepared to play with graphics settings and risk the system stbility?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> marjinal1st, i believe vlc-player might also work
[12:22] <geirha> luckily most editors don't do anything when you hit Esc
[12:22] <mat619> iptable: not only emergency work, also regular maintenance work that happens in the server room locally on the machine. It's a network testing & monitoring machine, so you often reconfigure the network settings along with the cabling to troubleshoot issues in various subnets
[12:22] <iptable> marjinal1st, there you go. CLI method by cfhowlett (avconv) and a good GUI method by knob (audacity).
[12:23] <marjinal1st> iptable: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[12:23] <iptable> yes geirha cause that gets pressed often too. before scrolling left and right. thankfully I still use arrows
[12:23] <raub> mat619: I believe iptable's point is that most server maintenance work can be done rather well from command line, so no need for gui in console
[12:24] <iptable> mat619, you do regular maintenance using a local terminal?
[12:24] <iptable> mat619, so if you need a script from your desktop, you take it with you on USB stick?
[12:24] <raub> iptable: I take he uses puppet/ansible or just ssh into it
[12:24] <mat619> iptable: no, of course I don't
[12:25] <iptable> mat619, hence out network and monitoring machines have a dedicated network port for admin. it's called the administrative network every serious organisation should have.
[12:26] <iptable> mat619, in any case, if you are willing to fiddle with graphics settings on a server and are still sure you want to do it (and won't blame us if stability starts lacking - for some reason the machine chose to reduce graphics), we can help.
[12:28] <Noiro> Can someone help me with x11vnc? i'm trying to use -storepasswd but whenever I store a password and execute it, it won't authenticate under the password I entered.
[12:28] <mat619> iptable: this machine has 4 NICs, and one port is also specifically used for admin work via ssh. but as I mentioned this machine is used to debug the network, so sometimes it happens one of us has to head down into the server room, hook up a device that has to be monitored to one of the machine's other NIC ports. it then is often useful to just fire up a local terminal and check if the network settings and connection parameters are O
[12:29] <iptable> uhm, that's a very cowboy way of doing things, but ok. if you insist.
[12:29] <mat619> iptable: care to explain why?
[12:31] <iptable> mat619, well, most places I worked in have something called a management interface and built-in KVM on the machines and machine centers (like IBM bladecenter) that we used. In other cases, machines would be configured at someone's desktop and tested in a test DC (where we invested in a LAPTOP). They would only be shipped to live DC and inserted in fully operational state.
[12:31] <swizgard> does anyone know if there is a way to use the "Acquire::http::Proxy" option dynamically, so that it is used if given proxy is reachable and not if not?
[12:31] <iptable> mat619, if a machine is not fit for purpose, you turn it off, unrack it and carry back. change failed, back to lab. that's ITIL at least.
[12:31] <scatterp> hi trying to run steam on xbuntu when it reaches the login or create new account page it becomes totally frozen i.e clicking login new account exit does nothing any suggestions ?
[12:32] <iptable> scatterp, once you reach that screen, wait a few seconds, THEN try to do it. once ytou press on create new account, if network connection is slow, wait up to 2 minutes WITHOUT clicking all over the place
[12:32] <iptable> scatterp, if that doesn't help, then it's your graphics drivers most likely.
[12:34] <scatterp> iptable: fast network graphics driver is the xorg driver which works fine in older ubuntu versions
[12:34] <iptable> mat619, and no, we don't have access to DC unless we fill in paperwork, sign it, get manager approval and prove that we need to. We also cannot open racks onsite, their magnetic locks need to be unlatched from the NOC before someone can access a single rack to insert HW and press power. Inserting and configuring network gear is even more fun...
[12:35] <iptable> scatterp, did you attempt the "be patient first time round"? if not, can't help further. also, scatterp, "works fine with older ubuntu versions"? well, works fine in this one, but doesn't appear to work with steam. if using ATI or nvidia, use their driver. you need 3D for steam and it's games, you know...
[12:37] <iptable> mat619, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[12:37] <iptable> mat619, if that doesn't work, then the resolution is not supported by either GFX card or monitor. try a better monitor.
[12:37] <scatterp> iptable: tried waiting its nvidia tried proprietary driver same issue
[12:37] <mat619> iptable: we started using a dedicated machine for network debugging purposes after we experienced weird printer issues at our main site here which did neither occur in the lab nor the testing environment, only in the production network. so it seems logical to set up a spare machine in the server room with several NICs that act as bridges, allowing us to transparently capture the network traffic to them and compare it.
[12:37] <iptable> scatterp, that was fast... how did you install it so quick?
[12:38] <scatterp> already tried it before coming here
[12:38] <iptable> mat619, you use linux machines with 4 NICs and BRIDGE to capture traffic(?)
[12:39] <iptable> mat619, in normal worlds, we setup out network gear to do split-path packet replication and send a copy of everything to whatever machine we need to
[12:39] <iptable> scatterp, please let me know how you were installing the nvidia driver
[12:39] <scatterp> iptable: did that once for an isp on freebsd was most effective
[12:39] <scatterp> ubuntu software center > edit > sources > drivers then select it and apply reboot and test
[12:40] <iptable> scatterp, ok, that is the correct method. so xubuntu, nvidia driver, have waited 2 minutes and no, it is definitely frozen.
[12:40] <iptable> scatterp, any life from top/iotop/atop on the proceess? or totally dead/
[12:41] <scatterp> iptable: will check that now with propriatary driver and waiting just for reassurance of those issues brb
[12:41] <iptable> scatterp, cool
[12:44] <RoBo_V> guys in virtual box only 32 bit works or what?
[12:44] <RoBo_V> im seeing only 32 ubuntu option...
[12:44] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to add +x permission to a .sh , but it isn't accepting the change and there is no error.  Could it be my folder?
[12:45] <mat619> RoBo_V: do you have your CPU's VT-X enabled in the BIOS? If not, that's exactly what happens
[12:45] <iptable> RoBo_V, host OS is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[12:45] <pisto> I installed the debug symbols of a package, but to my surprise the sources aren't included. So I can set breakpoints on functions but i can't step
[12:45] <mat619> iptable: well, guess we're not within a "normal world". our MPLS network, including the onsite routers, are managed by our hosting provider. we're only granted minimal rights on the routers, so we can't setup a split-path replication.
[12:45] <iptable> RonWhoCares, in what directory?
[12:45] <pisto> and gdb tries to load the source file in a place which is clearly a chroot environment
[12:45] <RoBo_V> mat619: really i will what is that option Vt-X?
[12:45] <iptable> mat619, yup, that's definitely not the world I live in.
[12:46] <pisto> so I wonder if this is the default dumb way of working, or it is a bug in the package
[12:46] <iptable> RoBo_V, what is the host OS?
[12:46] <RoBo_V> iptable: host os is 64 and iso ubuntu is 64 too
[12:46] <iptable> RoBo_V, and virtualbox is 64 bit?
[12:46] <RoBo_V> windows 8.1
[12:46] <mat619> RoBo_V: that's a feature of the CPU that allows virtualization programs like VirtualBox to access the CPU directly. For Virtualbox to support 64 bit, you have to enable VT-X
[12:46] <iptable> RoBo_V, wait, host is windows 8.1?
[12:47] <RoBo_V> mat619: i will see it
[12:47] <RonWhoCares> iptable: /media/rpiggott/Users/Users/Ron Piggott/PHPStormLinux/PhpStorm-133.1777/bin
[12:47] <RonWhoCares> iptable the file name is phpstorm.sh
[12:47] <RoBo_V> iptable: right
[12:47] <iptable> RoBo_V, no, for virtualbox to work at all you need to have VT-x. if it managed to start, you have VT-x already
[12:47] <iptable> mat619, ^
[12:47] <mat619> iptable: that's not true for all OS's.
[12:48] <jkcso> Windows 8.1 tends to have Hyper-V enabled, even as a desktop installation. Remove the Hyper-V feature via Programs, restart, and try again.
[12:48] <iptable> mat619, for host being a linux OS of kernel 2.6+ it is absolutely true.
[12:48] <jkcso> Having Hyper-V enabled will cause VBox to not have access to the virtualization extensions.
[12:48] <scatterp> iptable: ok done steam is using between 0.3 and 1% cpu and 249296 virtual memory
[12:48] <iptable> scatterp, so it;s doing something...
[12:48] <mat619> iptable: Linux, yes. Windows? Not so much.
[12:49] <iptable> mat619, that's a BIOS and CPU feature, not windows/os
[12:49] <iptable> unless windows is so shit
[12:49] <scatterp> i suppose yeah
[12:49] <iptable> RoBo_V, what jkcso said. something is hugging some VT-x extensions.
[12:49] <iptable> scatterp, give it 5 minutes maybe? could be downloading something in the background.
[12:49] <jkcso> iptable, RoBo_V: I found that out the hard way.
[12:49] <scatterp> k
[12:50] <mat619> iptable: incorrect. research it, the windows 64 bit build of virtualbox is capable of hosting 32 bit guest systems without VT-X enabled, but no 64 bit guests.
[12:50] <iptable> scatterp, oh, wait. so my installation seems to be downloading the full version (280MB) of steam after start. could it be doing that but failing to draw the "downloading" window?
[12:50] <Valarkin_> man, i am so lost. iptable, in order to install raid on this OVH server I have to boot to "rescue mode" which is "a basic Linux/BSD system has been launched on your server through the network. This is not the system installed on your server and none of your disks have been mounted" I can ssh in to it but from there i am lost.
[12:50] <jkcso> iptable: mat619 is correct.
[12:50] <RoBo_V> jkcso: hyper v where it is ?
[12:51] <jkcso> RoBo_V: Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Turn Windows features on or off
[12:51] <iptable> mat619, that would require windows to simulate VT-x, which is dumb. then again windows is dumb
[12:51] <scatterp> iptable: unlikely i have pretty fast internet and it did some kind of update initially before running
[12:51] <jkcso> iptable: 32 bit OSes are virt-able on 64-bit hosts without virt extensions.
[12:52] <jkcso> iptable: Only long mode - 64-bit exts - requires virt extensions.
[12:52] <iptable> scatterp, well, if 5 minutes don't unblock it, I would say try with full ubuntu to see if that works. if it does' it's xubuntu vs ubuntu issue, not your system.
[12:52] <iptable> jkcso, since when?
[12:52] <scatterp> iptable: already tried and it works in ubuntu of course
[12:52] <mat619> jkcso: correct.
[12:52] <RoBo_V> jkcso: : Hyper V is disabled
[12:52] <iptable> jkcso, you can't get to ring0 without VT-x or host OS allowing you to
[12:52] <jkcso> iptable: since ever?
[12:52] <scatterp> iptable: think theres a considerable amount of users on std ubuntu
[12:53] <jkcso> iptable: It's always been that way.
[12:53] <iptable> jkcso, uhm, no? previous solutions had to emulate the WHOLE CPU, which virtualbox might be doing in this case, which is wrong.
[12:53] <iptable> jkcso, you cannot access ring0 without VT-x or host OS cooperation (which would emulate VT-x in a way)
[12:53] <jkcso> iptable: I'm not here to argue. Fact is: 32-bit OSes can run as guests on 64-bit hosts without VT-x enabled.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> jkcso, confirmed ^^^
[12:54] <S-O-L> Hi, How can i install direct X in wine?
[12:54] <jkcso> I'm a network engineer, not a virtualization layer programmer.
[12:54] <jkcso> Aww, man. I missed out on a perfect "Dammit, Jim" moment.
[12:54] <iptable> jkcso, no, they cannot. not in a normal way using standard CPU and one of the cores/threads
[12:54] <iptable> jkcso, if you want to emulate, I can run 64 bit CPU on my ubuntu on a 32 bit installation
[12:54] <iptable> since forever
[12:55] <RoBo_V> jkcso: I have to enable Hyper V
[12:55] <RoBo_V> ?
[12:55] <iptable> scatterp, yes, I want to know if it's your xubuntu or your machine that's the reason
[12:55] <jkcso> RoBo_V: NOOOO. It has to be disabled.
[12:55] <S-O-L> i can haz halp?
[12:55] <iptable> scatterp, to figure that one out, we need to test it
[12:55] <RoBo_V> it is disabled already
[12:55] <mat619> RoBo_V: try rebooting and checking your BIOS settings regard VT-X
[12:55] <RoBo_V> OK mat619
[12:55] <jkcso> iptable: Like I said, not here to argue with you. Fact is fact. Do a bit of research.
[12:56] <[1]Az> hi whats the server channel?
[12:56] <scatterp> iptable: yeah already tested and it worked how ever the machine is low spec
[12:56] <mat619> RoBo_V: pretty sure it's disabled, most manufacturers tend to disable it by default it seems (Lenovo and HP for example)
[12:56] <iptable> I was about to say cat /proc/cpuinfo ... I forgot it's windows 8.1 :/
[12:56] <iptable> RoBo_V, yes, check BIOS, but also: boot from liveCD/liveUSB and cat /proc/cpuinfo and see if cpu features mentions vt-x
[12:56] <iptable> RoBo_V, for VT-x to work, you need BIOS and CPU support and at least minimal motherboard support
[12:57] <scatterp> iptable: about the whole 64bit debate simple solution to it is screen shot lol
[12:57] <Valarkin_> iptable: none of the raid guides seem to be covering my case
[12:57] <jkcso> RoBo_V: That much is true. VT-x has to be 1) present and 2) enabled in BIOS/EFI.
[12:57] <iptable> Valarkin_, I already covered it
[12:57] <iptable> Valarkin_, did you write down what I was writing in the 2 long blocks of text?
[12:58] <Valarkin_> I have, but in order to install raid on this OVH server I have to boot to "rescue mode" which is "a basic Linux/BSD system has been launched on your server through the network. This is not the system installed on your server and none of your disks have been mounted" I can ssh in to it but from there i am lost.
[12:58] <iptable> Valarkin_, to install, first make an ubuntu install/liveCD/USB, start from it and then start normal installer
[12:58] <Valarkin_> its a remote box
[12:58] <iptable> Valarkin_, why would you need rescue mode?
[12:58] <S-O-L> -_-
[12:58] <Valarkin_> cause that's what OVH says is the only way to do raid 6
[12:59] <iptable> Valarkin_, you have no access to console?
[12:59] <inte> hello
[12:59] <S-O-L> I though this was a support channel
[12:59] <iptable> S-O-L, what else is it then?
[12:59] <inte> i burned an iso with k3b and it wouldnt boot
[12:59] <Valarkin_> I can ssh in to the recuemode machine, but no discs
[12:59] <S-O-L> I asked a question but i was ignored :(
[12:59] <Valarkin_> cd/dvd
[12:59] <inte> cant mount loopback
[12:59] <iptable> jkcso, I did, when I was coding parts of kvm-qemu
[12:59] <inte> maybe i have to do it manually
[13:00]  * jkcso shrugs.
[13:00] <inte> can someone hand over the necessary command please?
[13:00] <jkcso> iptable: You're still mistaken. Dunno what to tell you.
[13:00] <scatterp> S-O-L: some times questions are missed or no one knows the answer or saw it so if you waited 5 - 10 mins ask again
[13:00] <inte> thx in advance
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !patience | S-O-L, for instant answers, purchase a canoncial support package.  otherwise, patience ...
[13:00] <iptable> jkcso, is that enough research? you cannot, I know that for a fact from CPU design docs I hold, access ring0 and use the CPU for emulation. you would have to emulate whole CPU, which is possible, but is not even ring0-type hypervisor. it's qemu style whole CPU emulation
[13:00] <scatterp> S-O-L: give me a sec and i will help you out
[13:01] <iptable> jkcso, so you telling me I can access ring0 of CPU without VT-x? do tell, one official document. cause intel's and amd's ones state otherwise.
[13:01] <buzzkill> S-O-L you just asked to ask...
[13:01] <S-O-L> buzzkill, No .-.
[13:01] <S-O-L> buzzkill , I asked before how to install direct X on wine in ubuntu
[13:01] <jkcso> iptable: I didn't make any claims about HOW it occurred. Simple fact is: x86 guests can run on x64 hosts without VT-x.
[13:01] <buzzkill> S-O-L:  try winetricks
[13:01] <jkcso> iptable: I don't know why you're taking this so personally, but that's all there is to it.
[13:01] <S-O-L> buzzkill , Don't work, I even tried downloading the installer but it still dun work
[13:01] <iptable> jkcso, in the same way 64-bit guests can, and same way that mips guests can
[13:01] <scatterp> S-O-L: take a look here http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/wine-directx.html
[13:02] <iptable> jkcso, it's a whole cpu emulation. they can't run, they can stagger
[13:02] <scatterp> buzzkill: he did ask above that
[13:02] <jkcso> iptable: Maybe that's true. As I said, I'm a network engineer, not a virt layer programmer.
[13:02] <jkcso> iptable: However, the fact remains: It IS a capability. Perhaps not ideal, but it is there.
[13:02] <iptable> jkcso, if you want to call it that
[13:03] <S-O-L> scatterp , I saw that, I did not add most of the thing i asked me to add though, I just went straight to installing Direct X, Which asked me a pop question where i want to put it, I put it in program files x86 in wine directory
[13:03] <cntbasket> whenever I open .mkv files in VLC, the video artifacts, lags, and freezes a lot. what do i do?
[13:03] <iptable> jkcso, it is a feature provided, if you are stating that. I'll agree. It is NOT the standard emulation with ring0 core access you normally get though in any shape or form. it's emulating whole CPU
[13:03] <jkcso> iptable: Wasn't debating that in the slightest.
[13:03] <jkcso> iptable: Obviously, the PROPER solution is to enable VT-x and do it the 'right' way.
[13:03] <scatterp> S-O-L: thats the correct place to put it so where is the problem exactly ?
[13:04] <iptable> S-O-L, that's a wine question, not ubuntu related
[13:04] <jkcso> iptable: But a last-ditch fallback is available for 32-bit guests. That's all I'm saying.
[13:04] <jkcso> iptable: It is POSSIBLE, though it sucks. :P
[13:04] <S-O-L> scatterp , The app that's dependant on direct x still complains
[13:04] <iptable> S-O-L, but still, answer: install playonlinux package, choose a container and click "install directx"
[13:04] <iptable> jkcso, ok, agreed
[13:04] <iptable> jkcso, let's move on then, as you suggested :)
[13:05] <scatterp> S-O-L:  yeah that is an application specific wine question you should really join #winehq for help if you dont get help you can message me
[13:05] <jkcso> iptable: Awesome, maybe we can discuss something I'm a bit more familiar with. :P
[13:05] <S-O-L> scatterp , Ok, Imma try going there, Thanks
[13:05] <iptable> S-O-L, playonlinux will preaare a wine container for you and patch direct-x in properly too. give it a shot. it';s in the repos.
[13:06] <iptable> jkcso, well, I'm also a (still learning on internet routing) networks engineer (moving away from other subjects)
[13:06] <S-O-L> iptable , I already have play on linux, How can i get said container? ;o
[13:06] <iptable> S-O-L, click "install" or "install game" or whatever it is called.
[13:06] <iptable> S-O-L, you need to consult playonlinux guide, it explains how to use it.
[13:06] <mishravikas> Hi all, I'm having problems with my amd graphics card in ubuntu 14.04, when I use Xorg drivers the performance is very poor I can even watch a single video and when I turn to fglrx I cant boot up and have to remove fglrx from tty1 any help please?
[13:06] <RoBo_V> jkcso, iptable, mat619 : Hyper V off and VT-x is enabled i can see in VM box under system
[13:07] <scatterp> S-O-L:  Just go in PoL install menu then use PlayOnLinux Functions in Other to install POL_Install_dxfullsetup, which is the full DirectX package, for your prefix.
[13:07] <iptable> RoBo_V, so it all works, or is there a problem?
[13:07] <RoBo_V> STILL SAME
[13:07] <RonWhoCares> iptable: It appears I don't have write permissions to /media/rpiggott/Users
[13:07] <scatterp> iptable: so nothing else i can do ?
[13:08] <iptable> RonWhoCares, you would need to add write permission there. if you don't have sudo/root, you cannot
[13:08] <jkcso> iptable: My focus is network and security engineering. Love the field.
[13:08] <scatterp> iptable: i was trying to bypass login using args but it wont take the password
[13:08] <jkcso>  m   h;
[13:08] <S-O-L> scatterp , I went to the  " Other " tab but i cannot find direct X
[13:09] <iptable> scatterp, no, you need the machine. if it's low spec, steam might not even start. steam needs a relatively new system with CPU extensions to work.
[13:09] <RonWhoCares> iptable: I am in terminal.  I have sudo access.  But doing chomd 777 Users isn't changing anything.  drwx------ 1 rpiggott rpiggott  4096 Sep  4 05:03 Users
[13:09] <mishravikas> please can anyone help me in fixing graphics performance in ubuntu 14.04?
[13:09] <iptable> scatterp, although, if it works in ubuntu but not xubuntu, you can either look for the difference, debug using strace, OR install ubuntu and install xfce on top
[13:10] <tomodachi> mishravikas: explain your problem and perhaps someone might know
[13:10] <iptable> RonWhoCares, you cannot do it without sudo
[13:10] <iptable> RonWhoCares, sudo chmod 777 Users
[13:10] <iptable> tomodachi, he did
[13:10] <RoBo_V> jkcso, iptable, mat619 : B'ful, I enabled 'Virtual State' something and it worked. Thank Yoy Guys. Love You <3
[13:10] <scatterp> iptable:  install ubuntu and install xfce on top (thx)
[13:11] <iptable> scatterp, yar, that's a good way. you get speed and full ubuntu deployment. you might find it's xfce fault then haha.
[13:11] <iptable> it's possible
[13:11] <scatterp> iptable: i suspect that
[13:11] <iptable> cntbasket, your CPU is too slow
[13:11] <scatterp> S-O-L: not sure you will need to check that in #winehq
[13:12] <scatterp> got to head out going afk
[13:12] <iptable> cntbasket, if CPU/GPU is too slow, you will get artefacts in VLC. alternatively if your CPU/GPU is overheating you will get those too.
[13:12] <mishravikas> tomodachi: I cant play videos properly as the image is always distorted
[13:12] <iptable> S-O-L, consult playonlinux docs, look around the GUI or ask on #winehq
[13:12] <jkcso> RoBo_V: Cheers! :)
[13:12] <RonWhoCares> iptable: When I do   "   $ sudo chmod 777 Users   "   I still get     "   drwx------ 1 rpiggott rpiggott  4096 Sep  4 05:03 Users   "
[13:12] <mat619> RoBo_V: cool, glad to hear :)
[13:12] <mat619> RoBo_V: enjoy your ubuntu VM!
[13:13] <S-O-L> iptable , scatterp , Ok.
[13:13] <iptable> have you got access to the dir that leads to the Users dir? the one above that is
[13:14] <RonWhoCares> Iptable 'Users' is a partition
[13:14] <iptable> Valarkin_, so you can ssh into a CD/DVD with rescuemode?
[13:14] <iptable> RonWhoCares, so that's an actual partition?
[13:15] <RonWhoCares> iptable: Yes.  I just installed 14.04 last night.  When I saw "Users"  listed in /media I assumed I had write access toit
[13:15] <iptable> RonWhoCares, 1. it is probably mounted with 700 permission enforced (to check issue mount), 2. the permissions of previous directories are still in force!
[13:15] <Valarkin_> iptable: i do not know if it is a cd/dvd - it says its a network instance
[13:16] <RonWhoCares> iptable: How can I mount it differently?
[13:16] <iptable> Valarkin_, ok, so you can boot it. can you see the drives under the fdisk -l ?
[13:16] <iptable> RonWhoCares, how did you mount it?
[13:16] <Valarkin_> iptable: I have access to things like parted though
[13:16] <iptable> Valarkin_, does parted see your disks?
[13:16] <RonWhoCares> iptable: It was done automatically
[13:16] <Valarkin_> yes to both
[13:16] <iptable> RonWhoCares, and that's an ext partition?
[13:17] <Valarkin_> iptable: sda to sdf
[13:17] <Valarkin_> man, i am amazed you can multitask all these :d
[13:17] <iptable> Valarkin_, can you install partman
[13:17] <RonWhoCares> iptable: No.  It is NTFS  .  This is so I can save my documents in both Windows and Linux
[13:18] <iptable> Valarkin_, nice, hey?
[13:18] <iptable> RonWhoCares, then the reason is that gvfs auto-mounted your partition in /media under the user you are currently logged in as
[13:18] <iptable> RonWhoCares, also, in case you don't realise, NTFS is a windows format. it doesn't accept file permissions like linux does
[13:18] <Valarkin_> iptable: not using apt-get install
[13:19] <iptable> RonWhoCares, so you cannot at will add and remove executable bit etc
[13:19] <iptable> Valarkin_, is it not there?
[13:20] <Valarkin_> "W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[13:20] <Valarkin_> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[13:20] <Valarkin_> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[13:20] <iptable> Valarkin_, oh, never mind. its not in repos
[13:20] <RonWhoCares> iptable: Of course.  I should have thought of this.
[13:21] <Valarkin_> hm, just got an email that talks about adding a new drive to an existing raid - using mdadm?
[13:21] <iptable> RonWhoCares, no problem at all ;)
[13:21] <iptable> RonWhoCares, we all did this at some point
[13:21] <Valarkin_> some are more understanding of that than others iptable ;)
[13:22] <RonWhoCares> iptable: I guess the blood can leave my face then
[13:22] <RonWhoCares> hehehe
[13:22] <benson> hi
[13:23] <iptable> Valarkin_, so, 1. use parted to create 1 partition per drive, type mdraid (or dmraid, or raid). Then use mdadm to add raid6 and all drives to it. Then use parted to make that raid volume LVM type. THEN use lvm (lv/pv tools) to create a volume group on the raid volume and 3 logical volumes. Then use parted again to create partitions on the 3 logical volumes: /, /home and swap
[13:23] <iptable> Valarkin_, I will leave the googling for parted, mdadm and lvm usage to you as learning experience. if you manage it on your own, you will know damn lot about partitions and tools already
[13:23] <Valarkin_> iptable: cheers, copied - now to figure out what all that means :D
[13:24] <iptable> Valarkin_, have fun. if in doubt, PM me the question and I will answer when I am online
[13:24] <Valarkin_> yeah, I feel pretty satisfied having made it this far , it's just time and effort, and a bunch of points in the right direction. Many thanks.
[13:24] <Valarkin_> Brilliant, thanks for that.
[13:24] <iptable> no probs
[13:25] <iptable> inte, please clarify your question, you want to mount the ISO in your OS?
[13:25] <iptable> inte, what do you mean you created ISO using k3b as well? what ISO? from what? on what OS?
[13:26] <inte> iptable: my problem is pretty much the same as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1706921
[13:26] <inte> except that i dont want to boot ubuntu but avira rescue (which is based ob ubuntu)
[13:26] <inte> and a i cant do the md5 checksum test since avira doesnt supply any checksum
[13:27] <cfhowlett> inte, avira is not supported here.  ask avira for support
[13:27] <iptable> inte, so oyu checked md5sum against the ubuntu website?
[13:27] <inte> pretty bad habbit for a company that deals with security
[13:27] <inte> iptable: it most likely not the same
[13:27] <iptable> inte, so you could have downloaded the ISO with errors on line?
[13:27]  * cfhowlett thinks any distro that doesn't supply md5sum is just ... stupid.
[13:27]  * inte agrees with cfhowlett
[13:28] <inte> iptable: well how would i know
[13:28] <inte> i can mount the iso
[13:28] <inte> i can mount the cdrom
[13:28] <inte> however, the cdrom doesnt boot on two different boxes
[13:28] <iptable> inte, just because you can mount doesn't mean it's not corrupt
[13:28] <cfhowlett> iptable, perhaps you can help him in pm since , you know, it's not supported here???
[13:28] <inte> im about to try a third wand
[13:28] <iptable> inte, or maybe avira released a dud ISO
[13:28] <iptable> inte, 1. you cannot verify if ISO is downloaded correctly, which is plain wrong. I will assume your ISO is corrupt. 2. you should md5sum your CD against ISO after burn.
[13:29] <pvh_sa> good afternoon, I'm trying to figure out why my pulseaudio can't see my USB headset - /proc/asound/cards lists it, but  'aplay -l' doesn't list it and neither is it visible in the Sound Settings. any ideas?
[13:29] <iptable> cfhowlett, I know, finishing...
[13:29] <inte> cfhowlett: its an ubuntu based distro and many people ran into the same issue with ubuntu
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> inte: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[13:29] <iptable> ActionParsnip, he can't . they don't give md5sum for their ISO
[13:29] <inte> cfhowlett: i thought it could be related to k3b
[13:30] <inte> ActionParsnip: i cant find any md5 sums for that iso
[13:30] <inte> or maybe im just blind
[13:30] <cfhowlett> inte, without a valid checksum, kind of hard to troubleshoot, yes?
[13:30] <iptable> inte, ask avire for support. ALSO, some ISPs/networks might filter and cause downloads to ALWAYS finish early. so all your downloads could be bad. try using another internet connection somewhere and get them to give you md5sum.
[13:30] <iptable> inte, ask the company for the md5sum
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> inte: what is the ISO?
[13:31] <iptable> inte, and no, it's not supported here as ubuntu users experienced issues which looked similar to yours, they didn't experience YOUR issue. they could md5sum their ISO to start with. and "ubuntu based" != "ubuntu".
[13:32] <inte> ActionParsnip: http://www.avira.com/en/download/product/avira-rescue-system
[13:32] <cfhowlett> inte, more to the point, a distro that does NOT have an md5sum is fundamentally untrustworthy.  consider your options.
[13:32] <iptable> avira antivirus? duh...
[13:32] <Lunario> Is there an ubuntu tool to delete spaces out of file names and e.g. replace them with "_", in bulk?
[13:32] <iptable> Lunario, yes
[13:32] <inte> ok is there any rescue iso which is supported in this channel?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> inte: rescue for what?
[13:33] <anudas> inte: helou
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> inte: what are you trying to achieve
[13:33] <inte> Lunario: sed
[13:33] <cfhowlett> inte, a few details?  what are you trying to rescue?
[13:33] <inte> ActionParsnip: checkin a winxp box in the end
[13:33] <iptable> Lunario, find /path/to/dir -type f -name "* *" |while read fn; do newfn=$(echo "${fn}" |sed 's/ /_/g'); mv "${fn}" "${newfn}"; done
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> inte: check in what way?
[13:33] <iptable> Lunario, do test on some dud dir with a few test files. I just created that out of memory
[13:34] <iptable> inte, ubuntu liveCD
[13:34] <iptable> inte, ubuntu liveUSB
[13:34] <iptable> inte, rescue what?
[13:34] <anudas> gisomount
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> inte: what are you wanting to check? You can modify Windows registry and bootloader from Ubuntu.....
[13:34] <Lunario> iptable: Great, will try that :) Thank you!
[13:34] <inte> well, yesterday at the time of the facebook DOS the box appeared to be offline (regarding the icon) but still caused much traffic on the net so I suspect it might be compromised
[13:35] <inte> ActionParsnip: no I need a malwarescanner for windows which boots from external
[13:35] <cfhowlett> inte, that sounds more like penetration testing ...
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> inte: you can virus scan your windows partition from Ubuntu, but if the system is compromised I suggest you reinstall
[13:35] <mishravikas> Ican not see my dashboard or icons after activating fglrx for radeon in ubuntu 14.04 any help please?
[13:35] <inte> full system check
[13:35] <inte> ActionParsnip: but clamav sucks
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> inte: plus XP is dead, so why keep using it
[13:35] <iptable> inte, use ubuntu, not windows
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> inte: AVG runs on Ubuntu as well as lots of other AVs
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> inte: there is more than clamav
[13:35] <karab44> hello
[13:35] <inte> ActionParsnip: or is there anything better preinstalled on the ubunto liveiso?
[13:35] <iptable> inte, windows xp is out of support even by Ms, out of life, out of security patches
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> inte: you can install things from the web and so forth in the live CD desktop
[13:36] <iptable> inte, run ubuntu live CD, install clamav antivirus and run it. in the end any AV will only discover up to 90% of virusees. most are old...
[13:36] <inte> i only still have it because it is the only system i fount which can flash some of my devices through the network
[13:36] <karab44> Can you share some information about default Firewall service in Ubuntu? Is it enabled? If not, why it's not enabled and  should I enabled it?
[13:36] <inte> on win7 mediasense cannot be disabled
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !ufw | karab44
[13:37] <iptable> inte, then you should only use it for flushing such devices. now go and reinstall. it's the only way
[13:37] <karab44> cfhowlett: thank you
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> inte: may want to make a VM then and scrap the (possibly) compromised system where you cannot actually trust anything
[13:37] <cfhowlett> karab44, happy2help
[13:37] <karab44> :)
[13:37] <inte> iptable: i still dont even know if its really compromised
[13:37] <jkcso> inte, Is it Windows XP? If so, then it's compromised.
[13:37] <iptable> inte, or as ActionParsnip suggested. that's what I do. I have a virtualbox xp VM for such works and keep snapshots of it to restore from
[13:38] <inte> thanks for all the options, but i simply need a bootcd/rescue system which is pretty straight forward and should do the trick...
[13:38] <iptable> inte, if you are unsure if it's compromised, you must have been browing the internet on that XP machine, not flashing stuff. things can't infect your machine through NAT nor without your active browsing action
[13:38] <cfhowlett> inte, kali linux at www.kali.org
[13:39] <inte> iptable: the box is maybe about 10 years old
[13:39] <jkcso> inte: What you need, "simply," is to follow recommendations and best practices. Half-assing your way around security is inviting disaster
[13:39] <inte> it has been used to browse the net for sure
[13:39] <iptable> inte, it won't do the trick. that's what we telling you. and some of us have worked for AV companies in the past. the only thing that will do is reinstall. but if you insist, download something and start it. ubuntu live CD and install clamav once booted (it will install to ram) and run it.
[13:39] <iptable> inte, we only support ubuntu on ubuntu channel. stands to reason
[13:40] <k1l> inte: there are linux virius scan boot cds. just go for a search on it. if you dont want to use a regular ubuntu for that
[13:40] <inte> clamav has a bad target rate
[13:40] <inte> ok thanks
[13:40] <inte> so, back to the topic
[13:40] <iptable> ineiros_, clamav has a reasonably good rate
[13:40] <iptable> inte, ^
[13:40] <iptable> compared to symantec and mcaffee
[13:40] <inte> the most likely reason for a ubuntu image not booting is a corrupt image, right?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> iptable, so long as you've kept updates going, you've solved most issues.  enabling ufw and possibly installing an antivirus are also possible possible good practice.  and stay off the bad ***** sites
[13:40] <iptable> inte, that and, since you mention it's 10yo machine, most likely your CPU is not supported
[13:41] <iptable> inte, ubuntu resquires at least a 32-bit PAE kernel with some basic extensions. if you CPU is too old, it won't boot. I'm guessing that's what's happening
[13:41] <iptable> cfhowlett, why you telling me?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> iptable, doh!
[13:42] <cfhowlett> inte so long as you've kept updates going, you've solved most issues.  enabling ufw and possibly installing an antivirus are also possible possible good practice.  and stay off the bad ***** sites
[13:42] <iptable> cfhowlett, ;) funny, that's what I did 2 minutes ago to someone :D
[13:42] <streulma> Ubuntu encountered a flashing screen after suspend on my Mid 2012 Macbook Pro 13 inch. Is there a way to solve?
[13:43] <iptable> streulma, single occurrance, all the time, or at random/
[13:43] <streulma> iptable all the time, not solved with PRAM reset or SMC...
[13:43] <iptable> ugh, macbooks and their GPU cards ... got the proprietary GPU driver running?
[13:43] <ddaa> join ##ec2
[13:44] <iptable> why?
[13:44] <iptable> oh, spammer
[13:44] <streulma> iptable it's Intel... on OSX keeps flashing on gray screens, in Ubuntu, only after suspend.
[13:45] <iptable> streulma, I thought apple used nvidia cards...
[13:45] <iptable> streulma, and on some they had hybrid graphics, both intel and nvidia. are you sure you are not one of those?
[13:46] <iptable> streulma, flashing gray screens when unsuspending or when suspended?
[13:46] <streulma> iptable, no, I have only Intel 4000, Apple can't solve my problem
[13:46] <streulma> I think the mainboard is stuck (videocard)
[13:46] <iptable> streulma, stuck where? It's normally soldered in pretty well
[13:47] <streulma> iptable, flashing whole screen after suspend on 3.16 kernel
[13:47] <iptable> streulma, please provide (in pastebin) output of sudo lshw (you may need to install it) or at least lspci
[13:47] <iptable> streulma, flashing when suspended OR when trying to unsuspend? it's a simple question
[13:47] <streulma> iptable, oh no, I mean after installed Intel Graphics
[13:48] <streulma> iptable I saye unsuspending (open the lid)
[13:48] <iptable> streulma, now lspci and if possible lshw please
[13:49] <inte> iptable: treied it on a newer laptop which returned the same error
[13:49] <iptable> inte, define newer
[13:49] <streulma> iptable no, macbook is in repair...
[13:49] <inte> around 4 years
[13:49] <streulma> by Apple
[13:49] <iptable> inte, well, that ISO is probably corrupt. you should be able to guess it. could be corrupt even on their website. 0 QA... avira
[13:49] <iptable> inte, when I say define, state your CPU and RAM
[13:50] <RoBo_V> Guys help me here , I have one HDD with 3 partiation already and 90GB space left for Ubuntu. But im not able to create further partitions.  As i need / , /home and /swap :(
[13:50] <iptable> streulma, wait, so you gave the laptop to apple and came here to tell us this happened?
[13:50] <iptable> streulma, have you tried instead to keep your finger on the power button for 15 seconds and see if it force-closes?
[13:50] <inte> iptable: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 350  @ 2.27GHz
[13:50] <iptable> streulma, or pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 to enter terminal mode?
[13:51] <iptable> inte, that's good enough for ubuntu.
[13:51] <streulma> iptable yes it cames from Ubuntu...
[13:51] <inte> i think so
[13:51] <iptable> inte, now get a proper working ISO
[13:51] <shubho> RoBo_V you can remove the partition which has 90GB space for ubuntu
[13:51] <streulma> iptable I don't have the notebook here !
[13:51] <inte> iptable: ill try my best, thanks :)
[13:51] <iptable> streulma, so why ask us!
[13:51] <RoBo_V> shubho: then ?
[13:51] <iptable> streulma, we can't obviously help you unless ytou have the issue at hand.
[13:52] <iptable> streulma, I am asking if you tried some basic stuff BEFORE you gave it back to apple...
[13:52] <streulma> iptable yes :)
[13:52] <iptable> RoBo_V, NOT /swap!!!
[13:52] <shubho> RoBo_V: then create your partition with that 90GB free space
[13:52] <iptable> RoBo_V, swap. it's not /swap. it's special type.
[13:52] <RoBo_V> iptable: yuo sorry !
[13:53] <iptable> RoBo_V, you can just use 1 partition, install ubuntu on it and use a swap file instead of swap partition. 90GB is low, so I would stick it all in one place.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> inte, but you MIGHT just find xubuntu/lubuntu run even better as lubuntu is optimized for older / lower specifications and xubuntu isn't far behind
[13:53] <shubho> RoBo_V type this ``sudo fdisk -l" and paste the output
[13:53] <iptable> streulma, this conversation is rather pointless. you are not cooperating
[13:53] <shubho> RoBo_V and then let me know what you exactly want to do
[13:54] <iptable> streulma, have you tried turning it off and on again when this happens? what happens when you do? does the screen start blicking immediately if you start it up? or does it go to ubuntu beforehand?
[13:54] <sky_man> hi
[13:54] <streulma> iptable: it was before running the OS
[13:54] <farbod> hi
[13:55] <farbod> how can i install a proxy on my ubuntu?
[13:55] <shubho> sandman what do you mean ?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> farbod: squid is a great proxy
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !proxy | farbod
[13:55] <iptable> streulma, if your screen blinks even before the OS starts, it's not UBUNTU fault
[13:55] <iptable> streulma, your screen or graphics card is broken. that's it
[13:55]  * cfhowlett is shocked there is no proxy factoid
[13:55] <streulma> ok thanks...
[13:56] <farbod> i want some thing like Tor but it doesnt work in Iran any more:( :( :( :(
[13:56] <iptable> farbod, apt-get install squid. if you want some nice filtering, also apt-get install squidguard
[13:56] <cfhowlett> farbod, look into vpn
[13:56] <RoBo_V> shubho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8233642/  Please mind 2HDD's are there above sda is for windows  sdb is general purpose from where I extracted 90GB (and installing Ubuntu via USB boot)
[13:57] <inte> cfhowlett: i have no plans installing it anyways, but thanks
[13:57] <looper> I am having problems trying to install packages to 10.4, when I run the perl script it will just keep entering a null charachter and pressing enter instead of letting me select a yes or no option, this happens with all installs
[13:57] <iptable> farbod, then you don't want a proxy on your own system then. try VPN with some host outside your network
[13:57] <cfhowlett> looper, 10.4 desktop?  unsupported = end of life
[13:57] <iptable> RoBo_V, so why not use 1 partition for everything? 90GB is not a lot of space
[13:58] <looper> yes 10.4 desktop. Unfortunately it has important data on it
[13:58] <iptable> looper, upgrade to 12.04 or higher. 10.04 is out of support, old and no longer updated. server package updates happen for security updates only and no desktop updates anymore
[13:58] <RoBo_V> iptable: thimgs are there and it is old HDD
[13:58] <iptable> looper, we cannot help if you insist on using an unsupported OS
[13:58] <cfhowlett> looper, I'd suggest you backup the data and install a supported OS.  as it stands, your system gets no security updates and is vulnerable.
[13:58] <iptable> RoBo_V, I mean why not use the whole 90GB for ubuntu's /, /home and a swap file (instead of swap partition)?
[13:59] <shubho> RoBo_V ubuntu is up and running ? why do you want /swap ?
[13:59] <iptable> RoBo_V, you can have eveything on 1 partition and with only 90GB to play with for ubuntu, I would say put all of ubuntu on the whole 90GB, do not cut it further
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | looper, upgrade path 10.04 >> 12.04 (supported) >> 14.04.1  Long Term Support
[13:59] <shubho> RoBo_V ubuntu must be using swap already
[14:00] <iptable> shubho, it's not running and no, ubuntu doesn't have to be using swap
[14:00] <looper> I understand, It is running an important application and cannot be taken down, i need to install packages to rescue the app
[14:00] <iptable> shubho, ubuntu runs happily witohut any swap
[14:00] <RoBo_V> shubho: im booting live from USB as for now
[14:00] <shubho> RoBo_V how do you know ? type ls -l /
[14:00] <shubho> RoBo_V you must find swap there ?
[14:00] <iptable> RoBo_V, if you only have 90GB for ubuntu, install it on the 90GB, just /. it will then put /home as a directory in /, on that 90GB. and add swap once you boot as a swap file.
[14:00] <RoBo_V> iptable: hmm kinda seem ok, but thinking to have /home seperate so that if i repalce Linux further it doesnt get affacted
[14:00] <iptable> shubho, you don't need swap to work!
[14:01] <iptable> shubho, and swap is not in /swap. it's a partition
[14:01] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to get rid of the failed to fetch repositories?
[14:01] <farbod> iptableiptable:squid has a ip? (tor ip is: 127.0.0.1:9050)
[14:01] <farbod> iptable:squid has a ip? (tor ip is: 127.0.0.1:9050)
[14:01] <iptable> RoBo_V, then start gparted and repartition the 90GB of sspace to youor liking
[14:01] <iptable> farbod, yes. it's a proxy
[14:01] <k1l> ThePendulum: please pastebin a "sudo apt-get update"
[14:01] <RoBo_V> shubho: noo swap, its live booted from USB
[14:01] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, disable those repos in your software source list would do it
[14:01] <ThePendulum> If I could find them
[14:01] <iptable> farbod, you need to connect to it. not IP, it listens to a port on your localhost IP. your machine has 127.0.0.1
[14:02] <shubho> RoBo_V ok ... delete the 90 GB partition
[14:02] <ThePendulum> k1l: http://pastie.org/private/syuvkzcg04dm9xk5b384uq
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> farbod: if you can find an SSH server outside your country (paid for ones exist), you can make an SSH tunnel to that then shove everything down the tunnel
[14:02] <RoBo_V> iptable: ok
[14:02] <asher1> help please
[14:02] <farbod> iptable: thank you very much if i have question i ask it again :)
[14:02] <iptable> RoBo_V, gparted is a nice partitioning GUI tool. start it, select the 90GB partition, remove it, create the partitions you need in it's place. / needs to be primary and /home and swap can be on extended/local
[14:02] <RoBo_V> shubho: yes it is delted already
[14:02] <asher1> please how i fix this
[14:02] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[14:02] <shubho> RoBo_V and make partitions
[14:03] <iptable> asher1, apt-get install build-essential
[14:03] <k1l> ThePendulum: why do you have raring repos active?
[14:03] <asher1> i do this
[14:03] <iptable> asher1, then read your software manual (the one you are compiling) and install any related -dev packages
[14:03] <iptable> asher1, read the big README or INSTALL files
[14:03] <publico> hey ho lats go
[14:04] <k1l> ThePendulum: please pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:04] <RoBo_V> iptable, shubho ok started gparted looking...
[14:04] <asher1> what is mean?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> publico, ask  your ubuntu questions
[14:04] <asher1> listen i do everything for this and i get error
[14:04] <iptable> asher1, what is mean?
[14:04] <publico> download ubuntu builder?
[14:04] <ThePendulum> k1l: i.e. Super boot manager uses raring repos but that doesn't seem to be it
[14:04] <iptable> asher1, it states in the readme what the dependencies are, does it not?
[14:04] <RoBo_V> 25GB this /  is enough ?
[14:04] <asher1> i used with ubuntu 10.04
[14:05] <iptable> RoBo_V, yes. it will be enough
[14:05] <asher1> no listen when i configure something then i get error
[14:05] <ThePendulum> RoBo_V: It's conservative but definitely enough
[14:05] <k1l> RoBo_V: when /home is seperate: yes
[14:05] <iptable> RoBo_V, my one is 28GB but it's bloated like hell
[14:05] <RoBo_V> iptable: lol 28gb is fulll ?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> RoBo_V: `my / is 8Gb with 4Gb used :)
[14:05] <iptable> RoBo_V, and then rest on /home. if you want swap as partition, make it RAM*1.5 if you need hibernate or just about half ram if you don't.
[14:05] <ThePendulum> k1l: http://pastie.org/9526953
[14:06] <RoBo_V> iptable: ok great :)
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> RoBo_V: /var, tmp, /home and swap are on a platter based drive
[14:06] <iptable> RoBo_V, yes. my / is 28GB full, but I install stuff and never uninstall
[14:06] <asher1> iptable you know i can fix this please?
[14:06] <iptable> asher1, you have completely ignored what I said
[14:06] <iptable> asher1, configure and make is not enough. read their README and compilation docs!"
[14:06] <asher1> where?
[14:07] <k1l> ThePendulum: ok, the sources.list is clean. now please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[14:07] <iptable> asher1, the thing you are trying to compile has some dependencies to install before you can compile. and you need to instal lthose and their "-dev" packages too.
[14:07] <iptable> asher1, try in the source code directory. it's usually there. if not, then on the website you downloaded it from
[14:07] <iptable> asher1, INSTALL or README.
[14:07] <RoBo_V> damn that what it is "after created / 25 GB" it says can't create more than 4 primary
[14:08] <ThePendulum> k1l: http://pastie.org/9526955
[14:08] <ThePendulum> Hmmm, ia32
[14:08] <iptable> RoBo_V, hah, you would need to remove one of the partitions already there
[14:08] <asher1> iptable i try to understand what you say but i do everything i say to you i install dev and what you want and i no see nothing
[14:08] <k1l> ThePendulum: yes, they seem to be the issue
[14:08] <iptable> RoBo_V, you can have up to 4 primary. one of them would then be an "extended", allowing you to have another 4 logical partitions
[14:08] <solexious> Hello. Since upgrading to the latest Ubuntu quassel's icon isn't showing near the clock but it's minimised to it so I can't get to the icon to open it. Any ideas how to get it back?
[14:08] <iptable> RoBo_V, so, want to stick to whole / on one partition? or willing ot remove partitions now?
[14:09] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know of a way to take a screenshot of a context (right click) menu
[14:09] <k1l> ThePendulum: deactivate them and see if the apt-get update runs fine
[14:09] <Pinkamena_D> the screenshot key stops working when I am 'right clicked' so to speak.
[14:09] <iptable> RoBo_V, there is 1 way. you could partition that 90GB as LVM partition and split it in LVM. that will let you boot from it, have separate / /home and swap
[14:09] <iptable> RoBo_V, ^ do that
[14:09] <asher1> someone
[14:09] <asher1> can help to me please
[14:09] <RoBo_V> iptable: logical ?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Pinkamena_D: i use imagemagick, install it and run:    sleep 5; import ~/shot.png       then you have 5 seconds to get the screen ready
[14:10] <ThePendulum> k1l: Do I (re)move them from apt/sources.list.d, or?
[14:10] <eeee> Pinkamena_D: shutter
[14:10] <iptable> asher1, I install dev and what you want and no see nothing. you are NOT cooperating. DID YOU READ THE COMPILE MANUAL?
[14:10] <asher1> what read please explain to me for understand
[14:10] <minimec> Pinkamena_D: I would launch the screenshot application first, choose 'Grab the current window' and use a delay of 3-5 seconds.
[14:10] <asher1> you tell to me install dev right
[14:10] <asher1> i install everything from dev
[14:11] <iptable> RoBo_V, you cannot have more than 4 paritions, due to 4 partition slots. the 4th partition for example can be an "extended" type, which basically ports somewhere where you can continue with more partitions. but you cannot boot from those. you can boot only from primary, raid or lvm ones
[14:11] <cfhowlett> iptable, this might be less confusing in a PM
[14:11] <iptable> RoBo_V, just install a VM
[14:11] <k1l> ThePendulum: i would suggest ppa-purge
[14:11] <iptable> RoBo_V, LVM that is
[14:11] <asher1> i get error from Terminal
[14:11] <iptable> RoBo_V, basically, the 90GB, create LVM partition and parititon the LVM
[14:11] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[14:11] <iptable> asher1, "everything from dev"?
[14:12] <asher1> yes
[14:12] <asher1> wnat see
[14:12] <asher1> the command
[14:12] <iptable> asher1, 7000 packages?
[14:12] <asher1> i dont know
[14:12] <RoBo_V> iptable: damn its so complex
[14:12] <iptable> asher1, I meant the dev packages for the dependencies. DID you read the manual!
[14:12] <iptable> asher1, there is a perfecvt manual with source code. read it.
[14:12] <ThePendulum> k1l: How do I target the ia32 one with that?
[14:14] <RoBo_V> iptable: how I install VM, im on live ubuntu ?
[14:14] <iptable> RoBo_V, no, lvm is just an extension (partition type) which let's you create more and flexible partitions. partition the 90GB as LVM type and in LVM options make the partitions you want.
[14:14] <iptable> RoBo_V, you want to install a VM?
[14:14] <iptable> RoBo_V, so you want to dual-boot with windows or have ubuntu as a VM?
[14:14] <RoBo_V> iptable: yes as you saying
[14:14] <iptable> RoBo_V, so you want to dual-boot with windows or have ubuntu as a VM?
[14:14] <k1l> !ppapurge | ThePendulum
[14:14] <RoBo_V> iptable: oh you mean just using ubuntu in windows under virtual box
[14:15] <RoBo_V> is that what you saying ?
[14:15] <iptable> RoBo_V, what are you trying to achieve? I'm asking?
[14:15] <iptable> is this a failed-comms day?
[14:15] <RoBo_V> iptable: im trying to install Ubuntu dual boot system with windows 8.1
[14:16] <iptable> RoBo_V, then install everything on one / partition being 90GB that you have if oyu are a beginner.
[14:16] <sky_man> folks, after upgrading from 12.0x to 14.xx with Linux 3.13.0-35-generic x86_64 my Linuxbox is not starting up properly. Saying / (root) not ready, and gives me three choices: wait, spring or manual
[14:16] <RoBo_V> iptable: i dont need VM i want to install it
[14:16] <iptable> RoBo_V, then install everything on one / partition being 90GB that you have if oyu are a beginner.
[14:16] <iptable> RoBo_V, or if more advanced, make the 90GB an LVM partition and play with LVM. that's your 2 choices.
[14:16] <iptable> RoBo_V, learn to crawl before walk and walk before run
[14:17] <RoBo_V> no LVM needed
[14:17] <sky_man> usually i choose "S" for spring. at the prompt i do $ remount -o rw / and afterwards a mount -a than i am back
[14:17] <sky_man> root is on LVM
[14:17] <Skinny_Malinky> Hey guys, I'm trying to make a bash script that runs live-reload but I keep getting "permission denied" Can you help me out?
[14:17] <Skinny_Malinky> The script is '#!/bin/bash
[14:18] <Skinny_Malinky> gnome-terminal -e cd /var/www/html/ -e bundle exec guard'
[14:18] <sky_man> pasted the grub.cfg
[14:18] <iptable> sky_man, fsck, check fstab
[14:18] <RoBo_V> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8233642/  so like in here means i have sdb1, sdb2 and sdb3 is primary all, thats why it not let me creating other one in 90GB right ?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Skinny_Malinky: why run it in a terminal? why not have it backgrounded?
[14:19] <Skinny_Malinky> like to make sure it's working
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Skinny_Malinky: did you mark the file executable?
[14:19] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, 1. if you run gnome-terminal line on it's own, does it succeed?
[14:19] <Skinny_Malinky> i can run it in the background though
[14:19] <Skinny_Malinky> i did
[14:19] <Skinny_Malinky> keep getting  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Skinny_Malinky: does the command need to be ran as root?
[14:19] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, did you chmod 755 your script to make executable?
[14:19] <Skinny_Malinky> i didn't, i'll chmod it
[14:20] <Skinny_Malinky> chmod didn't work and even if i just open the terminal i get the same error
[14:20] <iptable> RoBo_V, no, it is letting you create 4th one, sdb4
[14:21] <ThePendulum> k1l: cheers :)
[14:21] <iptable> RoBo_V, it is not letting you do sdb5
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Skinny_Malinky: what is the output of:  ls -la /path/to/script    please
[14:21] <RoBo_V> iptable: yes so means previous 3 are primary , right ?
[14:21] <iptable> RoBo_V, yes
[14:22] <iptable> RoBo_V, can't you just create all on / on that 90GB and actually learn ubuntu before you try to jump the gun?
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> -rwxr-xr-x  1 struan struan   45 Sep  4 15:07 Guard
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> -rwxrwxr-x  1 struan struan   57 Sep  4 14:46 Guard~
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> -rw-rw-r--  1 struan struan   28 Sep  4 15:21 Guard.sh
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> -rw-rw-r--  1 struan struan   27 Sep  4 15:20 Guard.sh~
[14:22] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, which one are you executing?
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> There are some other files but they're irrelevant
[14:22] <RoBo_V> iptable: yes it is installing just gaining upper hand on partions xD  i should have made it extended as per logic
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> Guard
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Skinny_Malinky: I'd make a script to run the command, then tell gnome-terminal to run the script, bit cleaner
[14:22] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, what's Guard.sh?
[14:22] <Skinny_Malinky> same thing
[14:23] <iptable> RoBo_V, no OS will boot from extended. OS only boot from primary partitions.
[14:23] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, make both chmod 755?
[14:23] <RoBo_V> iptable: well i dont have OS in that partions
[14:23] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, also ,edit the script and before the gnome-terminal, insert a line which says: echo "Hello"
[14:24] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, and afgter the gnome-terminal line, insert another that says: echo "There"
[14:24] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, run it and see if you get "Hello" and "There" printed on screen during/before/after error at all.
[14:24] <iptable> RoBo_V, correct.
[14:25] <Skinny_Malinky> can't find any messages
[14:25] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, just error?
[14:26] <Skinny_Malinky> i actually took out any commands so i could see if the echo works
[14:26] <Skinny_Malinky> but i can't find it
[14:26] <iptable> if you take out the gnome-terminal command, you still get the error?
[14:26] <Skinny_Malinky> no error
[14:27] <Skinny_Malinky> just can't find hello or there
[14:27] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, how are yoiu executing: Guard or ./Guard?
[14:29] <Skinny_Malinky> Okay, I put this in the folder I want it to execute '#!/bin/bash
[14:29] <Skinny_Malinky> gnome-terminal -e bundle exec guard' and I keep getting "could not find gemfile"
[14:29] <iptable> Skinny_Malinky, now you confusing me
[14:30] <Skinny_Malinky> never mind
[14:30] <Skinny_Malinky> i think i have it
[14:31] <asher1> iptable
[14:31] <asher1> what you say to me search only dev?
[14:32] <iptable> asher1, no, I say you read instruction manual for your source code you compiling
[14:32] <asher1> ok but what i need for this?
[14:32] <asher1> this only my question
[14:33] <iptable> asher1, the instruction manual
[14:33] <iptable> asher1, the part that says "you need this installed before you start:"
[14:33] <asher1> :S
[14:33] <asher1> what is this
[14:33] <asher1> what?
[14:34]  * cfhowlett is beginning to suspect ...
[14:36] <iptable> hah, me too
[14:37] <iptable> asher1, 1. tell us what you are trying to compile, 2. why you are doing this, 3. what does the readme file say?
[14:37] <iptable> asher1, and how is this connected to ubuntu issues?
[14:38] <helmut_> i
[14:38] <helmut_> hi
[14:41] <RoBo_V> why ubuntu terminal font is so b'ful ?
[14:41] <iptable> RoBo_V, design?
[14:42] <iptable> RoBo_V, you mean beautiful, bashful or bullshit-full?
[14:42] <RoBo_V> iptable: font specifically IDK
[14:42] <RoBo_V> iptable: beautiful xD
[14:42] <iptable> RoBo_V, 1. it's a nicely designed font, 2. it uses GPU to render and smooth it out
[14:43] <RoBo_V> iptable: it is monspace 12, right ?
[14:43] <Gassho> show me
[14:43] <minimec> RoBo_V: Probably Ubuntu Monospace --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28typeface%29
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> RoBo_V: isnt it just the 'system' font...
[14:45] <Gassho> how do i disable all the aspects of ubuntu that slow down my computer such as whatever?
[14:45] <TJ-> Gassho: Don't run any programs :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Gassho: install openbox, log off, log in to openbox session, done :)
[14:45] <RoBo_V> ActionParsnip: then ?
[14:46] <RoBo_V> iptable: nice...
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> RoBo_V: then what...what do you mean?
[14:46] <minimec> Gassho: 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop', and use lxde as window manager. Xubuntu-desktop would do too I guess.
[14:46] <iptable> Gassho, turn off the GUI
[14:46] <iptable> Gassho, and ubuntu.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> minimec: why not just 'lxde'?
[14:47] <RoBo_V> ActionParsnip: system font, IDK
[14:47] <Gassho> how do i boot to cli
[14:47] <iptable> RoBo_V, it's just a nice font smoothed like all others by 3D rendering. that's that
[14:47] <Gassho> instead of gui
[14:47] <iptable> Gassho, what do you want to achieve?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> RoBo_V: the font in terminal is just 'system'
[14:47] <Gassho> because i want to type in startx :p
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Gassho: add the boot option "text"
[14:47] <cfhowlett> Gassho, you can test alternate desktop environments first. then, if you find one you like, install the full desktop meta-package.  sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4
[14:48] <RoBo_V> iptable: I see
[14:48] <RoBo_V> ActionParsnip: ok
[14:48] <minimec> ActionParsnip: Good question. Just to be sure to get a working desktop with all default software installed. So to avoid possible 'problems'... I would just 'sudo apt-get install e17' by the way.
[14:49] <iptable> Gassho, CTRL+ALT+F1, login to console and /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> minimec: that too, but lubuntu-desktop installs lots of packages with duplicated functionality which is already in place
[14:50] <Gassho> iPcjamesy4 that sequence produces no change
[14:50] <Gassho> iptable rather
[14:50] <iptable> Gassho, apt-get isntall lxde, xfce, cinnamon, mate and a few others. logout and on login choose one of them and login to that. others do NOT run and slow system down when not logged into them.
[14:50] <minimec> ActionParsnip: True but often this alternative software is also consuming less system resources.
[14:50] <iptable> Gassho, CTRL+ALT+F1 does produce change
[14:50] <iptable> Gassho, takes you straight into terminal
[14:51] <Gassho> you mean at login
[14:51] <Gassho> but it doesnt now
[14:51] <Gassho> ._.
[14:51] <iptable> Gassho, no, even when logged in.
[14:51] <cfhowlett> minimec, but if decides he doesn't like a particular flavor, it's more of a PITA to purge all the packages vs. purging only the DE
[14:51] <iptable> Gassho, CTRL+ALT+F1-F6 will give you just terminals, no DE (GUI)
[14:51] <Gassho> i can switch to the F2 terminal
[14:51] <eeee> Gassho: start a terminal and type sudo service lightdm stop
[14:51] <iptable> Gassho, what do you want to actually achieve?
[14:52] <eeee> iptable: he wants to see if startx will start X?
[14:53] <eeee> i guess it worked
[14:53] <eeee> :)
[14:53] <iptable> hah!
[14:53] <iptable> silly user. why can't people tell us what they actually want to achieve, where we could them give appropriate suggestions...
[14:53] <guzzi_jones> haha... funny
[14:54] <Valarkin_> cause most of the time we don't know ourselves?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> iptable: been saying it for years dude
[14:54] <eeee> he wants to mess around
[14:54] <Valarkin_> Get in touch with your InnerNoob :P
[14:55] <iptable> Valarkin_, you should know by now some of us do know quite well ;)
[14:55] <iptable> eeee, fair enough
[14:56] <Valarkin_> Ah, but you are power users, the rest of us, well, even if we think we know we may not actually :D
[14:56] <jayar> how can i symlink or map a network drive so that i can see it in filezilla?
[14:56] <karab44> !ahci
[14:56] <karab44> hello
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> jayar: see it on the client or the server?
[14:56] <karab44> could you tell me how SSD support looks in ubuntu?
[14:56] <karab44> !ssd
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> jayar: and filezilla client or filezilla server?
[14:57] <jayar> client.
[14:57] <iptable> jayar, mount
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> jayar: so you want to be able to down and upload to and from a server from a symlink?
[14:57] <iptable> jayar, what protocol? cifs/smb, ftp?
[14:57] <jayar> like when i'm connected to my ftp, i can only see local files in the left side, but in the file browser, i can see all my n etwork drives
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> jayar: because if the symlink is on the client PC then it will work
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> jayar: the link is seen as a folder or file just like a 'normal' one, because of how the Linux file system functions
[14:58] <jayar> yea
[14:58] <karab44> anybody observed significantly improved SSD performance after enabling AHCI BIOS param?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> jayar: so just make your link and go
[14:59] <jayar> ok thnx
[15:04] <jayar> clear
[15:04] <jayar> oops
[15:04] <jayar> tryin to /clear screen from that r420r spam
[15:05] <RoBo_V> retrieving and retrieving file.....
[15:06] <RoBo_V> iptable: ^
[15:07] <lguy2000> using 14.04 lts i cannot change the permissions for a folder that is supposed to be a samba share.  any suggestions?
[15:08] <guardianpwr08> 0/ i am trying to install free 3rd party SSL cert from startssl.com..... im looking at these directions here https://www.startssl.com/?app=21 ... i have a2enmod ssl already installed.... but im a bit lost at what to do now
[15:08] <iptable> lguy2000, the share doesn't allow that?
[15:08] <iptable> guardianpwr08, put the cert somewhere and a2ensite default-ssl and edit it to point at your cert
[15:09] <guardianpwr08> where should i place the cert?  /etc/apache2/ssl/ ?
[15:10] <lguy2000> jptable, i change the permissions for enclosed files/folders for "others" but the changes do not stick.
[15:11] <iptable> guardianpwr08, for example, though you can put wherever
[15:11] <iptable> guardianpwr08, enable and edit the default-ssl site and put the cert name and location there
[15:11] <lguy2000> the shared folder is accessible from the windows PCs on the LAN, but each folder/file created by one windows user cannot be changed by another windows user
[15:12] <iptable> lguy2000, that's by design. if the share is created on ubuntu, you should enable "default permissions" option
[15:12] <lguy2000> jptable, how do i do that?
[15:13] <iptable> lguy2000, you need to tell me what you did, how you created share, what the config is, etc?
[15:13] <RoBo_V> why ubuntu downloading lot of packages from internet, I did not enabled it during installtion process.
[15:14] <cfhowlett> RoBo_V, no download without permission.  you authorized it.
[15:14] <guardianpwr08> the directions list SSLCertificateFile /usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.crt and SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.key .... i dont have those files....?
[15:14] <lguy2000> jptable, sure.  I created a folder named Test, then set it as a share in the Samba GUI and gave read/write access to it in Samba to 2 samba users.  these 2 Samba users can access the fodler from their respective windows PCs on the LAN but cannot change each other's files/folders.
[15:15] <iptable> guardianpwr08, put your certificates there
[15:15] <RoBo_V> cfhowlett: no way, i didnt clicked updates and third party
[15:15] <iptable> lguy2000, that would be by design. eah user has their own files
[15:16] <nero_> who's here>
[15:16] <guardianpwr08> iptable: all i have from them is a verification code... i put the .pem into /usr/local/apache/conf/
[15:16] <nero_> I need help with ubuntu installation.
[15:16] <iptable> lguy2000, you would need to install samba server (not GUI_ and configure from there otherwise
[15:16] <hichamat>  using Ubuntu 14 > I have this error with a website: Cross-Origin Request Blocked ... So where I can add  Access-Control-Allow-Origin "*" the website worked fine in another server (windows WAMP)
[15:16] <lguy2000> I've done this before (a couple of years ago) where the share is used as a file server on the LAN.
[15:16] <iptable> guardianpwr08, they are supposed to five you signed cert and their CA cert.
[15:16] <karab44> hello again
[15:16] <iptable> guardianpwr08, contact them
[15:16] <nero_> I burned the image file to the USB sticks. Checked the md5sum. It was intact.
[15:16] <karab44> I set bios AHCI to enabled and got this: read error
[15:17] <iptable> nero_, you cannot burn images into USB sticks. it's not a feature.
[15:17] <karab44> Then if I change devices booting order to start with CD-ROM or anything not related to HDD it runs after ... well 15 seconds maybe
[15:17] <iptable> nero_, so once again, HOW did you put the ISO onto USB?
[15:17] <lguy2000> how do i install samba server?
[15:18] <karab44> I installed Ubuntu before the change to AHCI obviously
[15:18] <iptable> lguy2000, apt-cache search samba and then install it. although, samba server configuration will be outside the scope of support here
[15:18] <nero_> I used the software from pendrivelinux.com
[15:18] <nero_> I also tried the Unetbootin!
[15:18] <sky_man> thx, bye
[15:18] <iptable> nero_, so on windows?
[15:18] <lguy2000> I thought the SAMBA GUI tool was just a front end that did what the server did.
[15:18] <nero_> iptable Yes. On windows.
[15:18] <uRock> lguy2000, right click a folder and click to share it in permissions, then the system will install samba for you.
[15:19] <iptable> nero_, ok. unetbootin works on windows. so what's the problem?
[15:19] <nero_> but I want to wipe oua the windows on the desktop and perform a fresh install of Ubuntu/Lubuntu.
[15:19] <iptable> nero_, in that case, boot from that uSB stick, select "install" on the ubuntu desktop and choose "wipe everything" when asked
[15:19] <jazzed> I'm new, so pls forgive.  I have a remote server I need to backup a directory incrementally. Is rsync a good solution? How do I restore to a previous day. ty
[15:19] <uRock> nero_, use windows to make the bootable drive, then wipe out Windows
[15:19] <iptable> jazzed, with rsync you need to code your own incremental backups solution
[15:19] <iptable> jazzed, rsync is a sync software
[15:20] <iptable> jazzed, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[15:20] <jazzed> ty so much
[15:20] <Dynamit_> 7win 14
[15:20] <Dynamit_> oj
[15:20] <lguy2000> jptable, how do I get samba server configuration help?
[15:20] <cepa> hey guys, is there a way to download all the files from a directory such as this; http://www.lns-archive.org/1968-packets/ via termminal?
[15:20] <nero_> I created the bootable USB stick. I set the boot priority to USB drive, I now plug it to my desktop. I restart the system to see a blank screen with an underscore blinking... and after an 8 second delay it boots to windows!
[15:21] <nero_> iptable I created the bootable USB stick. I set the boot priority to USB drive, I now plug it to my desktop. I restart the system to see a blank screen with an underscore blinking... and after an 8 second delay it boots to windows!
[15:21] <iptable> lguy2000, well, for a start I suggest reading some manuals or start guides. A google for "samba server configure howto" is a good start
[15:21] <iptable> lguy2000, having said that the conf file has (commented out) lots of examples to configure it form just that
[15:21] <lguy2000> iptable, jptable:  I mean help from a person
[15:21] <dbugger> Hey guys. Can someone please tell me how could I uncomment the following string ( // $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowNoPassword'] = TRUE; ) from the terminal without opening an editor?
[15:22] <iptable> nero_, put the USB stick in when PC is OFF. then boot it
[15:22] <iptable> lguy2000, ##linux
[15:22] <iptable> lguy2000, but first try do some reading
[15:22] <lguy2000> iptable, will do.  what is ##linux?
[15:22] <nero_> iptable ok. Will try that and come back !
[15:22] <iptable> dbugger, sed 's/\/\/ //g'
[15:23] <iptable> dbugger, that will replace "// " with nothing, effectively removing all "// "
[15:23] <iptable> lguy2000, a channel on IRC
[15:23] <iptable> lguy2000, like ubuntu you are now on
[15:23] <lguy2000> iptable, kk thanks
[15:24]  * RoBo_V gives iptable award for the "Helper of the day", Applause !
[15:24] <iptable> why thank you.
[15:24] <dbugger> iptable: that would uncomment everything on the file...
[15:24]  * iptable considers a break now
[15:24] <iptable> dbugger, yes
[15:24] <nero_> iptable btw, Unetbootin or pendrive linux?
[15:24] <dbugger> iptable: also, it is nice to see you again :)
[15:24] <iptable> nero_, unetbootin
[15:24] <nero_> iptable Which one do you recommend?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !cookie | iptable,
[15:24] <dbugger> iptable: I wanted to uncomment just that one line, not the other ones on the file
[15:25] <nero_> iptable thanks! Will brb!
[15:25] <iptable> dbugger, learn to use sed, you can then you can do that ;)
[15:25] <jazzed> iptable is on fire.  Jeesh. ty for ur help.
[15:25] <RoBo_V> ubottu: cookie, are you serious. Dont make fun of it.
[15:25] <dbugger> iptable: is not sed what is breaking me... it is regular expressions :P
[15:26] <iptable> dbugger, you need to escape a lot of stuff with \
[15:26] <dbugger> iptable: that is the problem. Im not sure which stuff, and the syntax highlighter of the editor is not making things easier...
[15:26] <iptable> dbugger, sed 's/\/\/ \$cfg\[\'Servers\'\]\[\$i\]\[\'AllowNoPassword\'\] \= TRUE/$cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowNoPassword'] = TRUE/g'
[15:26] <iptable> dbugger, that *might* work
[15:26] <Jacoby6000> Hey guys, anybody know why my computer hangs while it connects to a display?  I'm running a Dual-link DVI through an active adapter to convert to displayport.  It takes anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes for x-server to properly re-render everything and my computer cannot do anything during that time. It's not from high-cpu usage either. I guess it has to do with the bus on the motherboard or something...
[15:26] <Jacoby6000> but yeah what can I do to get around it?
[15:27] <dbugger> iptable: besides, I have to escape a lot of stuff for regex, but the single quotes, I have to escape them for the command line... do they use the same escape character?
[15:27] <grodius> Hello, im wondering if anyone can help me. I am getting these errors on boot, as well as slowdowns and freezes across the whole OS. Im on 14.04 which I updated from 13.10. I think something related to my kernel. I am getting this error http://i.imgur.com/eqrmB00.png
[15:27] <iptable> dbugger, single quotes don't need escaping in sed, so just escaping them in shell
[15:27] <iptable> dbugger, that should work I believe
[15:28] <iptable> dbugger, otherwise, \\\' works
[15:28] <dbugger> iptable: omg...
[15:28] <hichamat> please help with this error http://apaste.info/qog
[15:28] <iptable> dbugger, yes. \' escapes in shell and \\ creates \ in shell resulting in \' for sed
[15:28] <nero_> iptable there's a goddamn virus on my Desktop which is on WinXP. I guess it tinkered with the boot too. I will erase the hard drive data and do the installation.
[15:29] <iptable> hichamat, Access-Control-Allow-Origin doesn't get recognised at all. either obsolete or you need to enable/isntall some module for apache (a2enmod) to make it work
[15:30] <jgcampbell300> can someone suggest a room that i could ask questions about web site programs like osticket horde group ware software etc... just in general ... i am trying to find a combination of packages to run my it business better
[15:30] <iptable> hichamat, you need CORS and headers in apache2
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: #http perhaps
[15:31] <iptable> nero_, XP is out of support as well
[15:31] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: good as anyplace to start .. thanks
[15:32] <iptable> right
[15:32]  * iptable heads for a break. tired now...
[15:32] <nero_> iptable Right. I'm through it. It has been a painful thing configuring, securing the former. Its all gui.
[15:35] <gurdulilfo> The battery of my Acer Aspire S7 drowns extremely fast. What should I do to fix this problem? It used to last around 4 hours with Windows 8, now, with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS it only lasts around an hour.
[15:35] <gurdulilfo> Any ideas?
[15:35] <dingus> can someone please help me, i think i hit some sort of hot windows or cntrl key, and now my launcher is hidden, and also anytime i hit most keyboard keys, a "search" field appears in bottom right corner?
[15:36] <dingus> actually both launcher and menu bar are hidden.
[15:36] <dingus> it was re-appearing (launcher) when i hit the "A" button, but now that is just bringing up the form field bottom right corner. ?
[15:40] <dingus> NM. looks like the autohide state setting in settings had corrupted somehow. it said autohide "off" but it was on. I turned it to "On" and it was still on. then turned it BACK to "off" and it reappeared. POS.
[15:41] <grodius> Hello, im wondering if anyone can help me. I am getting these errors on boot, as well as slowdowns and freezes across the whole OS. Im on 14.04 which I updated from 13.10. I think something related to my kernel. I am getting this error http://i.imgur.com/eqrmB00.png
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> gurdulilfo: do you have the latest BIOS and Ubuntu updates?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> gurdulilfo: are there any bugs reported?
[15:43] <dingus> nm x2: my launcher bar keeps re-dissappearing anytime i enter BitWig Studio which is a full screen program. I have to go in to settings and flip the auto hide on then back off to get it to reappear each time?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> gurdulilfo, to get all ubuuntu upgrades:   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:43] <gurdulilfo> ActionParsnip: I think I have the latest Ubuntu updates
[15:43] <dingus> this just started happening after an update today, if that matters at all.
[15:43] <gurdulilfo> But I'll try it again
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> grodius: is the date set right on the system?
[15:43] <gurdulilfo> Is there anything solved recently?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> gurdulilfo, check for bios upgrades ?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> gurdulilfo: have a check on launchpad, or report a bug using:   ubuntu-bug acpi
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> gurdulilfo: http://www.linlap.com/acer_aspire_s7-191
[15:44] <dingus> The launcher bar is "hidden" but if i click where it should be it actually launches whatever application is in that spot where the launcher should be. It's like it is in "cloak" mode, not hidden. :(
[15:44] <tanghao> i'm using the xubuntu version 14.04, can i set the default encoding to GB18030
[15:44] <GZA-Genius> I am a semi advanced linux user (following this question many of you will say no your not, but thats y i am here) I am having an issue with my ssh server. On a fresh boot or from a reboot the ssh service runs and says it running but when i try and connect i get: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.17 port 55555: Connection refused    If I stop then start service or just restart the service it works fine. It's driving me crazy I
[15:44] <GZA-Genius> have looked all over for the issue and I know it has to be something little and dumb that I am overlooking so decided was time for fresh eyes. I checked perms, startupscrits and I can not see an issue anywere
[15:44] <karab44> hello again
[15:44] <karab44> I fixed AHCI problem
[15:45] <gurdulilfo> cfhowlett: How do I check for BIOS updates?
[15:45] <grodius> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:45] <cfhowlett> gurdulilfo, go to the manufacturers site and look for updates.  usually highly visible
[15:45] <tanghao>  i'm using the xubuntu version 14.04, can i set the default encoding to GB18030 when i open a txt file
[15:45] <gurdulilfo> ActionParsnip: Yes, I saw that page, but apparently some of the tools menationed are not available for Ubuntu
[15:45] <karab44> All I had to do was to disable Quick Boot BIOS setting in my Gigabyte z68 mobo
[15:46] <karab44> read error dissapered and I run system on AHCI drivers
[15:46] <gurdulilfo> cfhowlett: Acer only provides Windows executables for BIOS. Is there a simple way to update the BIOS from Ubuntu?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> gurdulilfo: are they in other distributions?
[15:46] <djapo> in tty1..n i can't see what i type when i have scroll lock on, any ideas why that is?
[15:46] <asher1> Hello again how i fix error?
[15:46] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[15:46] <cfhowlett> gurdulilfo, yes for dell.  unknown for acer but if you dual boot ...
[15:47] <asher1> someone tell me i need download something from dev
[15:47] <gurdulilfo> cfhowlett: I don't dual boot. It's only Ubuntu.
[15:47] <TJ-> GZA-Genius: The server has a static IP address? On the server can SSH client connect to the local SSH server via localhost:55555 ? Any firewall rules on server, or client,?
[15:47] <asher1> but what?
[15:47] <GZA-Genius> gurdulilfo: there should be like an ez flash utility in your bios, or seperate from bios triggered by hitting a Fx button.
[15:47] <gurdulilfo> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure, some Google search showed that they are actually Fedora utilities.
[15:48] <gurdulilfo> GZA-Genius: I'll try to check that.
[15:48] <GZA-Genius> TJ-:  static yes ans fire as firewall and stuff its all disabled because I am nowere near done setting it all up
[15:49] <grodius> Anyone know what this error is about: http://i.imgur.com/eqrmB00.png
[15:49] <asher1> someone?
[15:49] <anudas> GZA-Genius, try to look for prog, which control somethink and then he runs somethink, what do this
[15:49] <lguy2000> How do I stop samba from running?
[15:50] <TJ-> GZA-Genius: Connection refused means the server isn't running, or a firewall is in the way. Check the Server's SSH log file, it's probably not starting initially
[15:51] <GZA-Genius> TJ-: it starts initially I think it is something to do with some kind of network/dns service
[15:52] <asher1> please help
[15:52] <asher1> ?
[15:52] <GZA-Genius> TJ-:  u know where default.log is
[15:52] <GZA-Genius> cant find in normal places
[15:53] <lguy2000> <iptable, jptable> how do i stop Samba from running?  or at least pause it?
[15:53] <anudas> asher1,  its about install, reinstall, install and ......
[15:53] <TJ-> GZA-Genius: Usually it's in "/var/log/syslog" and for log-in attempts "/var/log/auth.log"
[15:54] <GZA-Genius>  lguy2000 smbd
[15:54] <anudas> GZA-Genius, generally in /usr/var/log /var/log etc. ....
[15:54] <lguy2000> GZA: smdb stop?
[15:54] <asher1> how i fix this
[15:54] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[15:55] <Valarkin_> asher1 - you have been told how many times - not sure what else you need?
[15:55] <cyphase> anyone know of a media player/library app that tracks all the music you play, without using last.fm (or any other third-party service)?
[15:55] <GZA-Genius> Yea I know where the normal logs are but shouldnt the ssh server have its own, thats the one i can not find
[15:55] <anudas> asher1,  try to apt-get upgrade
[15:55] <djapo> so is there any reason why i can't see what i type into the console when i have scroll lock on?
[15:55] <GZA-Genius> lguy2000 sudo service smdb stop
[15:56] <sennn> hi
[15:57] <lguy2000> GZA:  Thanks!!!  Now do I edit smb.conf?  I use gedit but then it appears i do not have permission to save the file changes?
[15:58] <GZA-Genius> lguy2000: u need to be root or sudo to edit smb.conf
[15:58] <GZA-Genius> lguy2000: gksudo gedit ......
[15:59] <lguy2000> GZA:  AWESOME!!!
[15:59] <GZA-Genius> TJ-:  found this in syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/8236905/        still trying to find were sshlog is its not were it is supposed to be for some reason
[16:00] <TJ-> GZA-Genius: Are there some other file-systems being mounted such as for /var/ that the ssh daemon requires to be ready?
[16:01] <GZA-Genius> currently runing a standard desktop install, running a nfs, samba, and ssh server
[16:03] <GZA-Genius> I believe another process is making it fail and once i track doewn the ssh log I can check theory but cant find lol
[16:03] <iptable> asher1, install postgresql-server-dev-something
[16:03] <iptable> asher1, and read the manual!
[16:03] <iptable> asher1, I've been telling you this for ages!
[16:04] <iptable> asher1, read the readme file or install file. you are trying to compile code. you didn't even tell me what you compiling and how! stop!
[16:04] <TJ-> GZA-Genius: have you checked "/var/log/auth.log" ? I wouldn't be surprised to see something like "error: Bind to port 55555 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use"
[16:05] <GZA-Genius> TJ-: good call
[16:05] <TJ-> GZA-Genius: You can always test it without starting the service with "sudo $(which sshd) -Ddp 55555"
[16:06] <GZA-Genius> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8237754/   Thanks bud I needed someone from the outside to point me in a new direction!!!
[16:07] <GZA-Genius> TJ-: tnx for your help, have a gr8 day
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> lguy2000: if you are using a clean install of Trusty then sudo can be used with gedit, gksudo isnt installed by default
[16:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[16:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> I just built a program from source with specific settings
[16:12] <Pici> congrats
[16:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> using ./configure, make
[16:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> how do I make a .deb file
[16:13] <Sylario> The guidelines link is broken
[16:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> so I can easily install on another machine
[16:13] <Pici> !checksinstall | MDTech-us_MAN
[16:13] <Pici> er
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> MDTech-us_MAN: look into checkinstall
[16:13] <Pici> !checkinstall
[16:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> thx
[16:14] <Pici> !guidelines | Sylario looks like our hosting provider is having an issue
[16:15] <Xinos> How to change host?
[16:15] <Sylario> well... url shortener
[16:15] <Sylario> Anyway, i see a list of encoding when doing local -a, i want to change the default order
[16:15] <Sylario> how do i do that
[16:16] <Xinos> How to change host in irc freenode qwebirc?
[16:16] <Pici> Xinos: you can only connect to freenode using freenode's qwebirc.
[16:16] <Xinos> Pici: I know it.
[16:17] <Pici> Xinos: if you have more questions about it, best to ask in #freenode
[16:17] <Xinos> But: Seryth [~Matrix@cpc20-nail3-2-0-cust985.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] [18:14] == Seryth [~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0] has joined #ubuntu
[16:29] <neps> how do i install drivers for ubuntu
[16:29] <neps> i want to install driver for wifi
[16:29] <neps> and ethernet
[16:32] <TJ-> neps: Generally, the Linux kernel comes with all device drivers. However, some manufacturers that don't provide the technical documentation for their hardware will publish their own Linux drivers, and for others the hardware's firmware is not re-distributable and the user needs to use some program to 'cut' the firmware from Windows driver packages.
[16:32] <aukun> where is /etc/inittab in ubuntu?
[16:33] <TJ-> neps: First, you need to identify the devices requiring the drivers. For PCI devices, use "lspci -nnk" and for USB, "lusb" to list the devices the Linux kernel has found and their unique IDs
[16:33] <grodius> Anyone know what this error is about: http://i.imgur.com/eqrmB00.png
[16:33] <neps> Great TJ-
[16:33] <TJ-> aukun: There isn't one - Upstart doesn't require it
[16:34] <aukun> ok
[16:34] <TJ-> grodius: Insufficient information there, but looks like the Linux kernel hit a major issue. Best to report the bug so it can be investigated
[16:35] <grodius> TJ-: i thought do you think i should update or reinstall the kernel
[16:35] <grodius> so*
[16:38] <TJ-> grodius: No, not without firm evidence of the cause, and a known fix in an update
[16:42] <jpedroza2k> Is there a specific room for ubuntu and Nvidia driver issues or should I just hit the nvidia room?
[16:42] <neps> if there is a program like apt-get for driver, that detects the hardware vendor and installs the driver that would be great
[16:42] <neps> TJ- ? what do you say
[16:43] <k1l> neps: depends on your hardware
[16:43] <neps> actually detects the hardware make and manufacturer and looks on the available source
[16:44] <neps> and download and install it
[16:44] <karab44> I am just wondering why Ubuntu has disabled Firewall by default?
[16:45] <AcidRain2012> hello. how can i mount a drive with a label somewhere?
[16:45] <AcidRain2012> do we still use fstab?
[16:46] <asher1> please
[16:46] <asher1> help
[16:46] <AcidRain2012> asher1: what are you going thru?
[16:46] <jpedroza2k> AcidRain2012: yes, you can still use fstab
[16:46] <asher1> i have problem with configure and i do everything
[16:46] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[16:47] <AcidRain2012> jpedroza2k: is there any new standards to use?
[16:47] <asher1> i try configure something and i get in configure error like this
[16:47] <AcidRain2012> asher1: you obviously need libpq++.h
[16:47] <AcidRain2012> ;p
[16:47] <asher1> ohh
[16:47] <asher1> comeone my friend
[16:47] <asher1> i very much try
[16:47] <asher1> to see how i can fix this
[16:47] <asher1> i install
[16:47] <asher1> all what people tell to me
[16:48] <AcidRain2012> try the synaptic package manager
[16:48] <asher1> what is this?
[16:48] <asher1> synaptic
[16:48] <asher1> ?
[16:49] <netlar> Good morning all.  What is a good tool to monitor of who is using my wifi?
[16:49] <AcidRain2012> go to your ubuntu menu. and type: synaptic package manager" and you will see it popup
[16:49] <asher1> ok
[16:49] <asher1> i do this
[16:49] <AcidRain2012> netlar: you see that in your routers config
[16:50] <asher1> but what i need install for fix this?
[16:50] <TJ-> asher1: Your question(s) really aren't for Ubuntu support, you should be asking in a programming support channel. We've asked you several times over the last few days what it is you're actually trying to do, but so far you're avoided telling us. It is likely your attempt to manually build the software is not necessary, and as you seem totally new at software development you're likely to continue with very basic mis-understandings.
[16:50] <AcidRain2012> asher1: synaptic will warn you if you are about to make a mistake. you should listen to it very careflly
[16:50] <netlar> AcidRain2012: ok, was hoping for some utility that just show me this one thing and not have to go into the config
[16:51] <asher1> i have this
[16:51] <asher1> synaptic
[16:51] <asher1> i run this
[16:51] <asher1> but this no much help to me
[16:52] <jpedroza2k> asher1: try this on the command line or in terminal sudo apt-get install libpq-dev
[16:52] <jpedroza2k> enter your password and it should install it for you.
[16:53] <jpedroza2k> Why do toy need that library? Are you compiling something from source?
[16:54] <sakamop> jpedroza2k: I presume because of <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[16:54] <asher1> i install this
[16:54] <jpedroza2k> asher1: that should give you the library you were needing.
[16:54] <asher1> libpq-dev is already the newest version.
[16:54] <asher1> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[16:54] <asher1>   gcc-4.4-multilib libgmp3-dev libsqlite3-dev libcln6 libffi-dev libbsd-dev
[16:54] <asher1>   libgmpxx4ldbl lib64gcc1 gfortran-4.4 libc6-dev-amd64 libpqxx-2.6.9ldbl
[16:55] <asher1> do you have install this?
[16:55] <jpedroza2k> asher1: What are you attempting to build that needs the library?
[16:56] <asher1> i install something project from ircd
[16:56] <asher1> and when i try configure
[16:56] <asher1> this i get
[16:56] <asher1> error
[16:56] <netlar> There found one, iftop, looks pretty good
[16:56] <asher1> libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h
[16:57] <jpedroza2k> asher1: It looks like you have that file installed, but it is not seeing it...
[16:57] <AcidRain2012> quick question. when my system boots, will everything in fstab be executed?
[16:57] <dav1dp0101> Has anyone dealt with deleting old an old encrypted home directory? I stopped using home directoy encryption because it duplicated all my files and filled my hard drive and the drive went corrupt. I removed encryption, but the files are still there in hidden folders. I can't delete them.
[16:57] <k1l> AcidRain2012: everything in fstab will be mounted
[16:57] <jpedroza2k> AcidRain2012: It will be mounted if it is set up correctly.
[16:57] <TJ-> davidrussell: duplicated?
[16:57] <asher1> something worng in this
[16:58] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: duplicated?
[16:58] <dav1dp0101> Well, apparently, in my /mnt/*} folder
[16:58] <AcidRain2012> jpedroza2k: can you check my fstab for me to see if it is correct?
[16:58] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: Anything with option "noauto" won't be mounted
[16:58] <dav1dp0101> TJ-, Well, apparently, in my /mnt/*} folder
[16:58] <jpedroza2k> asher1: It looks like you don't have the header file it is looking for... I am not sure if it is looking for a library, or a header file from the project you are building.
[16:59] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: Sounds like simply a second mount of the /home/ file-system - ecryptfs stores encrypted user homes under "/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/"
[16:59] <dav1dp0101> TJ- really? How do I unmount that safely?
[16:59] <asher1> i used with ubuntu 10.04
[17:00] <TJ-> asher1: When building software using autoconf, the config.log will help resolve issues when the configure script cannot find libraries and development headers
[17:00] <dav1dp0101> TJ- actually, the folder taking up the space (the duplicate) is /mnt/*}/home/.ecryptfs/<user>/.Private
[17:01] <asher1> yes headers
[17:01] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: Can you show us "mount | pastebinit" ?
[17:01] <asher1> but how i can fix this TJ-
[17:01] <asher1> ?
[17:02] <TJ-> asher1: I've told you repeatedly, your questions should be in a programming channel, *not* in this channel. These are *not* Ubuntu support issues, they are learning-to-program issues.
[17:02] <dav1dp0101> ah, i got it by removing the folder I listed above. (rm -rf <folder>). Thanks TJ- !
[17:02] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: OK --- but does that solve the issue with a mount under /mnt/ ?
[17:03] <dav1dp0101> TJ- I have no idea.
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> where is the fstab error log?
[17:03] <dav1dp0101> What will happen if I "mount | pastebinit" ?
[17:03] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: show us the output of the command I showed you
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> for some reason its not binding certain mount points to where i want them
[17:03] <AcidRain2012> i get no errors when running sudo mount -a
[17:03] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: It'll put the results of the "mount" command into a pastebin where we can look at it
[17:03] <asher1> this no help to me
[17:03] <asher1> i need please to know how i can fix this please
[17:04] <asher1> i in here two days and very much i try to fix this
[17:04] <k1l> asher1: what program is that? what is the whole output? put the output all into a pastebin
[17:04] <Noiro> Can someone tell me where Xorg stores xorg.conf on Ubuntu Server? There's no /usr/ directory
[17:04] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: Maybe the mountpoint isn't available when the system tries to mount on it? upstart uses mountall which tries mounts in parallel
[17:04] <jpedroza2k> Noiro: /etc/X11
[17:04] <gery> hello guys..any idea how to speed up firefox youtube buffer?
[17:04] <jpedroza2k> I am in there myself.
[17:04] <Noiro> jpedroza2k, it's not in there
[17:05] <Noiro> At all
[17:05] <k1l> Noiro: server and x11 sounds more like a desktop
[17:05] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/UvP4rArM all mount points do indeed exist
[17:05] <Noiro> k1l, we needed a GUI for virtualbox
[17:05] <jpedroza2k> Noiro: Then it hasn't been created.
[17:05] <AcidRain2012> i know this because whenn they didnt exist. mount -a warned me
[17:05] <k1l> Noiro: there is no xorg.conf since its all handled by udev etc
[17:05] <dav1dp0101> TJ- : here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8242277/
[17:05] <Noiro> k1l, how do I force a resolution, then?
[17:05] <jpedroza2k> k1l: Unless there is an nVidia card, prime uses it, although poorly.
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> I am fighting with that right now.
[17:06] <k1l> Noiro: set it in the video drivers program. so it depends on the  used video card
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> Is there a room specifically for ubunty and nvidia issues?
[17:06] <Noiro> when we VNC into it at the office, I don't want a tiny 900x600. Just an Intel built-in
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> ubuntu*
[17:06] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: If at boot-time "/media/Server2/" isn't mounted when the bind-mounts are attempted, they will fail
[17:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> hey guys
[17:06] <k1l> Noiro: i think that is more like a vnc issue
[17:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> how would I compile a x86 package on a x64 machine?
[17:07] <dav1dp0101> TJ- , I don't see any mentions of duplicates of my home folder mounted, or of anything encrypted. Which is good, right?
[17:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> from source I mean
[17:07] <Glorfindel> I can't su- for some reason
[17:07] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: That looks OK - there are no mounts under "/mnt/" so anything there is files that have been copied in there
[17:07] <Noiro> k1l, if I boot the server on a monitor, it'll autoadjust the resolution to the monitor and hwen I vnc in, it'll use the monitor's resolution
[17:07] <AcidRain2012> TJ-: i havent rebooted yet though
[17:07] <Noiro> I just need to forcefully set the resolution
[17:07] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I get an autologon for my ubuntu box?  I have a little embedded device with no keyboard, so I'd like to have it auto login and launch a program in full screen
[17:07] <gery> hello guys...how to speedup firefox youtube buffers?..help please..
[17:08] <dav1dp0101> TJ- Great, problem solved! thx.
[17:08] <jpedroza2k> gery: That would e a question for Firefox, not Ubuntu
[17:08] <k1l> Noiro: you can build a own xorg.conf if needed
[17:08] <AcidRain2012> http://pastebin.com/M7ZHA0d5  TJ- no errors
[17:08] <jpedroza2k> k1l: Won't xrandr build one as well?
[17:08] <gery> but i use firefox in my machine..
[17:09] <jpedroza2k> gery: this room if specifically for issues with the operating system, not individual applicaations.
[17:09] <k1l> gery: i bet there is a plugin for that. but better ask the firefox specialists on that
[17:09] <gery> okay..sorry
[17:09] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: OK, so on the face if it all is good, but just be aware at boot-time that 'mountall' tries to mount all at the same time, so you might see warnings during boot that it is waiting for a file-system
[17:10] <asher1> ok this program for ircd and what i need do this configure there when i try configure i get error
[17:10] <Noiro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74808/how-do-i-force-a-resolution-of-1024x768 < Is that ok?
[17:10] <Noiro> Using third one down
[17:10] <k1l> asher1: no one can help you without the infos i asked for
[17:10] <AcidRain2012> TJ-: ye i know what you mean. i had that issue with ubuntu 12. just never got around to fixing it
[17:11] <AcidRain2012> my main concern at the moment is gaining access to all these servers
[17:11] <L00K> Seus Bosta !
[17:11] <asher1> k1l
[17:11] <k1l> asher1: "my car is broken", "what car is it and where is it broken" , "i will not tell you"
[17:11] <AcidRain2012> TJ-: what im saying is. even though there is no errors. there is NOTHING where it says it is mounted at
[17:11] <asher1> what you want i show to you?
[17:11] <k1l> !br | L00K
[17:11] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: There is usually only an issue if a mount is networked, and needs to wait for networking to be fully ready
 asher1: what program is that? what is the whole output? put the output all into a pastebin
[17:12] <asher1> ok
[17:12] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: I don't understand what " there is NOTHING where it says it is mounted at" means - all that info is in "/etc/fstab"
[17:13] <AcidRain2012> ./media/Server/My_Documents/My_Videos  <--- contains 1000s of files. which is mounted on: /media/AcidShower/FTP/ftpuser/My_Documents/Videos  <--- contains 0 files. 0 folders
[17:13] <ikonia> why have you mounted a local file system in the same place AcidRain2012
[17:14] <AcidRain2012> its not being mounted in the same place
[17:14] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: One thing to be cautious of, is using absolute device names in fstab instead of the file-system UUIDs, since if the device's are discovered in a different order what was sdh this time may be sdg next time
[17:14] <AcidRain2012> ./media/Server/My_Documents/My_Videos on /media/AcidShower/FTP/ftpuser/My_Documents/Videos type none (rw,bind)
[17:14] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: permissions?
[17:14] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it's already mounted on /media/Server/My_Documents/My_Videos so how/why are you then re-mounting it on  /media/AcidShower/FTP/ftpuser/My_Documents/Videos
[17:15] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: it does indeed SAY its mounted. but its not
[17:15] <AcidRain2012> im looking at it now
[17:15] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that wasn't my question
[17:15] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you've got a remount of a mounted disk ??? why
[17:15] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: ikonia Looked like a FTP server chroot configuration to me, to put those inside the chroot
[17:15] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: yes, TJ- is right
[17:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why are you doing these solution ??
[17:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why chroot ? why mount for a chroot an already mounted file system ??
[17:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you seem to create problems
[17:16] <AcidRain2012> using the exact same configuration in ubuntu 12 worked fine with no issues
[17:16] <AcidRain2012> and i like it this way
[17:16] <asher1> http://pastebin.com/5nquc4YN
[17:16] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it seems a terrible solution
[17:17] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: to a non-existant problem
[17:17] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what is your end goal ?
[17:17] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: there are many reasons to mount a single drive in multiple mount points
[17:17] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: no, there isn't
[17:17] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you create problems
[17:18] <asher1> k1l
[17:18] <asher1> http://pastebin.com/5nquc4YN this my paste see
[17:18] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what's your end goal/requirement
[17:19] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: ikonia The same drive isn't being mounted in multiple locations, sub-directories are being bind-mounted inside the chroot
[17:19] <ikonia> TJ-: this makes no sense, there is nothing to suggest a bind mount (unless I'm missing information)
[17:19] <AcidRain2012> my end goal is to mainly, have a whole drive that maps out every other drive on the box. makes for easier visual configuration
[17:20] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: ikonia "(rw,bind)"
[17:20] <ikonia> TJ-: where ? I don't see that
[17:20] <TJ-> AcidRain2012: ikonia: http://pastebin.com/UvP4rArM
[17:20] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: every other drive ?
[17:20] <ikonia> TJ-: ah, I don't have that paste, thank you
[17:20] <AcidRain2012> i have like 15 drives
[17:20] <k1l> asher1: you are running that on a 10.04 machine?
[17:20] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: as in physical hard drives ?
[17:21] <AcidRain2012> ikonia: yes
[17:21] <asher1> yes
[17:21] <asher1> k1l
[17:21] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok, thats fine, so why bind mount things ?
[17:21] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: why not just access the file systems ?
[17:21] <AcidRain2012> because. man i dont want it that way
[17:21] <AcidRain2012> i want to open a single folder. and see everything inside of that 1 folder
[17:22] <AcidRain2012> not browse to 15 different drives trying to find what im looking for
[17:22] <ikonia> then mount them in the 1 place
[17:22] <Noiro> I edited xorg config to show properly but no dice.
[17:22] <ikonia> eg: /dev/sda1 /media/music /dev/sdb1 /media/video /dev/sdc1 /media/books so you just look in /media
[17:22] <ikonia> not mount them and then bind mount them into a chroot
[17:22] <blocky> anyone know how to get the wicd tray icon working in 14.04?
[17:22] <Noiro> How can I get VNC to mount a display bigger than 800x600?
[17:23] <jpedroza2k> Noiro: I think you can usually set that in the client preferences when setting up the connection
[17:24] <eer> Hi
[17:25] <eer> Is there a command with which I can find out whether my box has a gigabit ethernet interface or not?
[17:25] <Noiro> jpedroza2k, I do, but still comes up same size.
[17:25] <Gassho> how do i disable my touchpad?
[17:25] <Noiro> It's a ubuntu thing, not a client thing
[17:25] <Noiro> more specfically my x11 thing
[17:25] <jpedroza2k> Go into your xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and set a preferred display size?
[17:33] <AcidRain2012> TJ-: i have solved the issue
[17:33] <khamtan> .ldo
[17:33] <AcidRain2012> TJ-: what would you suggest i do to make all of these things mount properly?
[17:33] <khamtan> im first
[17:33] <kmeghar> Hi eer
[17:34] <khamtan> new
[17:34] <khamtan> how to in stall nvidia driver
[17:35] <WeystLande> hello
[17:35] <WeystLande> they aren't listening to me in #freenode
[17:36] <WeystLande> i'm getting chimpOut racist spam from Bremsstrahlung
[17:36] <ikonia> WeystLande: not interested in this channel
[17:36] <ikonia> WeystLande: ignore them - report it to #freenode
[17:36] <WeystLande> i did... i was quieted :/
[17:36] <jpedroza2k> Ok, I edit my xorg.conf file and restart lightdm service. After the service restarts, the changes I made to xorg.conf are wiped out and a default is put in its place! Is this some "feature"?
[17:39] <chrisss123456> hey guys, i wanna wipe a thinkpad of windows and install ubuntu, but i’d like to clone the disk in case of something messing up. is there an executable reliable program to do this?
[17:39] <chrisss123456> i know that clonezilla is great, but its bootable
[17:39] <asher1> k1l?
[17:39] <asher1> you there
[17:39] <daftykins> chrisss123456: it's also a package
[17:39] <karab44> updating software on linux is kind of nightmare
[17:39] <chrisss123456> daftykins really? couldnt find it :/ can you give a link?
[17:40] <karab44> installation is brilliant - idea of repository is something supercool. but updates... this is just wrong
[17:41] <chrisss123456> also, daftykins : i’d like to not wipe the harddrive that im backing up to. is that possible?
[17:45] <streulma> what is good to run Ubuntu? Asus or MSI
[17:48] <anonymous_> check
[17:50] <k1l> asher1: sorry, had to go afk. i am looking into it right now
[17:50] <Jacoby6000> Hey guys, anybody know why my computer hangs while it connects to a display?  I'm running a Dual-link DVI through an active adapter to convert to displayport.  It takes anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes for x-server to properly re-render everything and my computer cannot do anything during that time. It's not from high-cpu usage either. I guess it has to do with the bus on the motherboard or something...
[17:50] <Jacoby6000> but yeah what can I do to get around it?
[17:51] <k1l> asher1: are you sure that is the only issue? there are lots more errors
[17:52] <asher1> yes
[17:52] <asher1> i paste to you
[17:52] <asher1> everything
[17:52] <asher1> and there have the error
[17:52] <asher1> from config.log
[17:53] <RoBo_V> is server slow ? My updates are installing very slowly during setup :(
[17:53] <k1l> asher1: that program (chanfix?) should have a request list for a build. did you fullfill all that?
[17:54] <linuxyogi> Dnsmasq stores its cache on RAM ...so its lost on reboot ...Is there any DNS caching server which stores its cache on disk ?
[17:54] <asher1> i no build this i download this to my home ubuntu and only i do what in explain to do i write in Terminal configure
[17:55] <k1l> asher1: like: is postgresql installed and is it the right version?
[17:56] <asher1> i install postgresql from webmin
[17:57] <k1l> asher1: what? you still have 10.04 desktop? and with webmin?
[17:58] <asher1> yes
[17:58] <RoBo_V> asher1: which age u living in
[17:59] <asher1> my age?
[17:59] <asher1> 34
[17:59] <RoBo_V> nooo
[17:59] <RoBo_V> I mean upgrade ubuntu... ;)
[17:59] <asher1> ohh
[17:59] <k1l> asher1: well. webmin and 10.04 desktop are kicked out of support. i dont know if its worth the work to make that work instead of just going with a better ubuntu setup in the first place
[17:59] <LFS> ubuntu kylin insists on giving me Chinese menus which I don't understand! any suggestions?
[18:00] <asher1> what is mean k1l?
[18:00] <k1l> !webmin | asher1
[18:00] <k1l> !10.04 | asher1
[18:01] <abdel> please I want to clean my pc running ubuntu 14.04...which software can I use
[18:01] <abdel> it seems slow
[18:01] <k1l> asher1: right now i am not sure if your problem is webmin and 10.04 desktop. and not that program you want to build
[18:02] <asher1> ok
[18:02] <asher1> i understand now
[18:02] <asher1> thanks k1l
[18:03] <q_a_z_steve> I just booted my system into the Memtest86+ v4.20 stuff on an ubuntu server disk, any idea how long before I know which of these 1GB x 4 sticks are bad? I did this before and I could have sworn at least one pass was fine.
[18:04] <Valarkin_> any raid gurus about? I need to know how I can reallocate a 6 drive raid 1 array to a system drive and raid 5 or 6 on the remaining drives without reinstalling and without access to the install media - my providser (OVH) does image based installs and there is no option to set yup raid at install time other than the default raid1
[18:04] <abdel> please I want to clean my pc running ubuntu 14.04...which software can I use
[18:04] <ikonia> Valarkin_: these are virtual disks ?
[18:05] <Valarkin_> hi ikonia - physical disks but the install seems to be image based no prompts or dialogues
[18:05] <k1l> asher1: http://chanfix.info/download.php  that project is dead. dont use that. and dont use webmin.
[18:05] <ikonia> Valarkin_: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[18:05] <asher1> why?
[18:05] <asher1> no use with webmin?
[18:06] <k1l> asher1: see chanfix website: "*** Undernet's chanfix (aka C) is not currently active ***"  that project is gone
[18:06] <asher1> ok
[18:06] <asher1> and what about webmin?
[18:06] <k1l> asher1: and webmin got kicked out of debian and ubuntu because it makes a mess out of the config files.
[18:07] <Poppabear> anyone have any good priced colocation suggestions for a 4u on a 1Gb/s unmetered connection ?
[18:07] <Valarkin_> ikonia: Linux ns399515.ip-37-59-2.eu 3.10.23-xxxx-std-ipv6-64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 18 14:48:24 CET 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that's a virtual host
[18:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that's not phsycial
[18:08] <ikonia> Valarkin_: (or is very unlikley to be physical)
[18:08] <Valarkin_> oh. well poop. every time I think I have this figured out I get looped ;)
[18:08] <Valarkin_> ok, well given that state of affairs how woyuld I do it?
[18:08] <asher1> ok k1l thanks
[18:08] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I wouldn't
[18:08] <ikonia> Valarkin_: especially not with a custom kernel
[18:09] <haled> my laptop has a blinking thin white line on the top left part of the screen when using Ubuntu (but not win7). How can I fix this?
[18:09] <Valarkin_> why not? is it terribly problematic? Raid1 across 6 drives isnt doign me much good
[18:09] <ikonia> Valarkin_: raid1 across 6 drives is not real
[18:10] <panda81> Hi. I keep getting "Input/ouptpu error during read on /dev/sdb" when installing. Does this mean the install media is corrupt, or the destination partition is?
[18:10] <ikonia> Valarkin_: raid 1 across 6 drives is basically 1 drive with 5 mirrors or spare
[18:10] <Valarkin_> hm, http://pastebin.com/hGnK9Znp is how its reporting the drives
[18:11] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that's 1 disk with 5 mirrors
[18:12] <ikonia> and zero spares
[18:12] <wrongplace> with what do I open an .img file of a dvd?
[18:13] <Valarkin_> and there is no way to get it on raid5 or 6?
[18:13] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you'd need to re-create the array
[18:14] <Valarkin_> and that's what I am asking how to do :D
[18:14] <ikonia> no, you asked how to migrate the disks to a different machine
[18:14] <Valarkin_> Am i correct in thinking that this is just oart of the 'live' install process? choose part scheme, set it to raid and run with it?
[18:14] <LFS> this channel is a waste of time
[18:14] <ikonia> no
[18:14] <ikonia> Valarkin_: basically - you need to talk to your provider, it's a custom ubuntu build
[18:15] <ikonia> Valarkin_: standard advice could cause you data loss
[18:15] <Valarkin_> data loss is fine
[18:15] <ikonia> Valarkin_: talk to your provider
[18:15] <ikonia> their installer is an "unknown"
[18:15] <ikonia> and the hardware is virtual - there maybe limitations
[18:15] <ikonia> (or appears to be virtual)
[18:15] <Valarkin_>  I need to know how I can reallocate a 6 drive raid 1 array to a system drive and raid 5 or 6
[18:16] <Valarkin_> I never mentioned migration
[18:16] <Valarkin_> and the provider says "figure it out"
[18:16] <ikonia> Valarkin_: same advice is true
[18:16] <ikonia> Valarkin_: talk to your provider
[18:16] <Valarkin_> ^^^^
[18:16] <ikonia> Valarkin_: then get a provider who offers support
[18:16] <ikonia> Valarkin_: sounds like a bag of junk service
[18:16] <Node_> What's best tools to download?
[18:17] <wrongplace> how do I rename a .img to a .iso?
[18:17] <Node_> For a cool looking Desktop/
[18:17] <Valarkin_> so you are telling me you know how to do it but wont tell me?
[18:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: bottom line, break the mirrors, create a raid 5/6 array form the missing free disks, migrate data across, configure config such as grub and fstab,
[18:17] <Valarkin_> you really have forgotten what it is to be new.
[18:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I'm telling you, you are on a custom build so it's unknown
[18:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: not at all
[18:18] <ikonia> Valarkin_: normally you would create the raid array as part of the install, but as you can't do that due to a custom install, it would be a manual post intsall process, which is quite a lot of effort
[18:18] <ikonia> hence talk to your provider and ask them to do it at the image/pre-image level
[18:20] <Valarkin_> the provider says its doable but unsupported and changing provider isn't an option
[18:20] <Valarkin_> ah well.
[18:20] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you won't be able to use all the disks in the raid array
[18:21] <ikonia> Valarkin_: or you'll need some sort of "boot" media
[18:22] <Valarkin_> I was given to understand the usual pattern would be sys on 1 drive, raid 0 the rest in a raid5/6 as a single volume.
[18:22] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that would work fine
[18:22] <ikonia> thats a lot more straight forwrd as you're not changing your system disk
[18:22] <Valarkin_> so if it's already raid 1 for the first dive, where would I look for the process of raiding the other 4?
[18:22] <ikonia> Valarkin_: all the drives are raid 1
[18:23] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you'd need to stop/lose raid off all drives
[18:23] <ikonia> then create a new array of the non-root disk
[18:23] <Valarkin_> at present yes, but doesnt that mean that 1st drive has an allocated mirror drive?
[18:23] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it has 5 allocated mirrors
[18:23] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it's a very bad config
[18:25] <Valarkin_> well, it's what I have to work from - can't do anything about what's already past
[18:26] <lmat> I'm trying to cmake a qt project. How can I tell what qt package I should install?
[18:27] <lmat> Or is there some way to link up qt with the cmake system... or something?
[18:30] <Adam_ActiveState> where can I find code for this morning's update to irqbalancer?
[18:32] <Castbound> I have a huge CPU usage and lag caused by Compiz, I have updated from ubuntu 12.04LTS to 14.04 and performance has dropped badly, specially when I hit the dash it takes some time to load files/programs. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8252338/ (vdeo card information)
[18:33] <Valarkin_> ikonia: there is an option on the reinstall panel to use the distribution kernal - would that make things easier?
[18:34] <ikonia> Valarkin_: in my opinion it is better as it's "known" - but it won't make it easier, still the same ammount of effort
[18:35] <ikonia> Valarkin_: basically, break the 5 mirrors, create new raid 5/6 array out of them,
[18:35] <Valarkin_> but less chance of an unexpected interaction
[18:35] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that is it (if you don't want to touch the root disk)
[18:35] <dbugger> Hi guys. Can anyone please take a look at my issue, in case you might have an answer? I appreciate it a lot. http://askubuntu.com/questions/520174/pastebinit-gives-me-the-wrong-url-when-logged-in-a-vagrant-box
[18:35] <ikonia> Valarkin_: once thats done, remove the ramaining 1 disk raid 1 out of  raid confiugration
[18:35] <ikonia> Valarkin_: as there is no more mirrors for it, you need to remove it
[18:35] <ponA> hi, i am trying to create a partition using the "disks" utility on one of my drives. i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8252367/ Any hints on how to fix that?
[18:36] <Valarkin_> cheers ikonia
[18:36] <ponA> the disks utility displays the drive as empty
[18:36] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I advise you to mark the 5 mirrors as "failed" before removing them
[18:37] <ikonia> Valarkin_: so it thinks the disks have failed before you disable them
[18:43] <ponA> firefox crashed, but i am here again :)
[18:43] <ponA> any hints on my problem that i missed?
[18:44] <He4dShOt> hello
[18:44] <Delta706> does it make sense that a command in rc.local needs to have output directed somewhere?
[18:45] <He4dShOt> I have some problems with my nvidia card
[18:45] <haled> my laptop has a blinking thin white line on the top left part of the screen when using Ubuntu (but not win7). How can I fix this?
[18:46] <He4dShOt> it syas that it has faile to query nvidia devices
[18:46] <He4dShOt> and I think that's why there are problems with lightdm not starting properly
[18:47] <Beldar> ponA, people come and go here, best to restate the issue and what you have tried.
[18:47] <rolts> Hello
[18:48] <rolts> i got problem with saving an database.yml file which i made
[18:49] <rolts> and it wont let me save it cuz of premissions
[18:49] <rolts> http://tinypic.com/r/2w3qlwl/8
[18:49] <rolts> do i have any way's through it?
[18:52] <rolts> noone?
[18:53] <netlar> How do I do snapshots on Unbuntu
[18:54] <Delta706> netlar: of the screen?
[18:54] <netlar> Delta706: No sorry, I mean of the system
[18:55] <netlar> So if I need to , I can go back to a stable system, if things get messed up
[18:55] <Delta706> netlar: I found a page on askubuntu.com that might be relevant
[18:56] <netlar> Cool
[18:56] <Delta706> netlar: not tried it myself but here is the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/424225/setting-up-lvm-snapshot-as-a-backup-restore-point-in-ubuntu
[18:57] <rolts> anybody knows how to resolve the premission problem ?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks, back after some months
[18:57] <netlar> Wow that is pretty involved Delta706
[18:58] <ponA> hey. so my issue is that i cant create a partition on an empty disk via the "disks" util, i get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8252367/
[18:59] <guzzi_jones> ponA: Error: Expecting a file system type.
[18:59] <guzzi_jones> did you try to give it a file system type
[18:59] <Beldar> ponA, Install gparted, make sure there is a partition table if it is unallocated, take a screenshot for us if needed.
[19:00] <guzzi_jones> what is the output of : sudo fdisk -l
[19:04] <ponA> fdisk -l gives me this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8252564/
[19:04] <TJ-> ponA: Probably the disk doesn't have an MSDOS disk label; is it GPT by any chance?
[19:06] <ponA> i dont know, the disk was in a raid5 software raid which i deleted. i got 4 empty disks. i could make partitions on 2 of them but the third one gave me that error
[19:07] <TJ-> ponA: If the disk doesn't have a disk-label yet you need to prefix the command with "mklabel msdos;" to create a new partition table
[19:09] <ponA> TJ-: Where do i enter that command?
[19:10] <Ben_R_> I’ve just performed a fresh 14.04 install, and went to install the nvidia-331 driver after installing updates. On reboot, lightdm never starts. Is nvidia-331 broken?
[19:11] <TJ-> ponA: "parted --align optimal --script "/dev/sdd" "mklabel msdos; mkpart primary ext2 1MiB 500106780159b"  " (I *think* parted needs the ";" command separator)
[19:12] <ponA> did not need the ";"
[19:13] <ponA> i get "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance."
[19:13] <azbc> ok
[19:13] <ponA> how do i get proper alignment?
[19:16] <ponA> okay, seems like deleting and recreating the partition worked :)
[19:19] <cortexman> so i had a crazy idea. what if i plug my laptop into my comcast router AND connect to the public xfinity wifi connection. if i could somehow bond those two connections together i'd be using my comcast bandwidth and the leftover bandwidth of my neighbors
[19:19] <cortexman> is there a way to bond connections like that on linux?
[19:20] <kzoo> cortexman: you can load balance over them, not bond.
[19:21] <cortexman> what abt this http://askubuntu.com/a/222135
[19:25] <Hecter> Hello! what is the best to install for antivirus? I'll be accepting files from users via Upload page, I do not know if virus can be embeded in file types PDF, IMAGES, EXCEL, WORD, ETC. Thank you in advance! Ubuntu 12.04
[19:26] <SchrodingersScat> !av | Hecter
[19:29] <Ben_R_> Removing nvidia-331 and installing nouveau-firmware apears to have worked… but nouveau is not able to drive my external monitor, so that’s fun.
[19:29] <Hecter> noted. :) thank you all
[19:29] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. I'm having trouble starting apache2 all of a suddon, and I checked port 80. It seems I have something called "aolserver4-nsd
[19:29] <WACOMalt> " on that port
[19:30] <WACOMalt> I researched and it seems this is some sort of web server made by AOL...
[19:30] <WACOMalt> I'm wondering how this could have magically appeared on my system
[19:30] <WACOMalt> and how to shut it down
[19:33] <chrisss123456> hey guys, i’ve made a bootable usb with ubuntu, but my laptop is not booting from it
[19:33] <chrisss123456> what’s weird is that it did before, but now it doesnt.
[19:34] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Does the PC's firmware boot menu offer the USB device in the boot menu?
[19:34] <chrisss123456> yea, it does
[19:35] <chrisss123456> TJ-: it shows the hard disk and USB Generic flash drive
[19:35] <TJ-> chrisss123456: And when you select USB what happens?
[19:35] <chrisss123456> Screen goes black, then lit, then shows the bootable disk menu again
[19:36] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Are you able to test that USB device on another PC to prove it can boot?
[19:36] <chrisss123456> TJ-: sadly no. but i just booted from it before! i wanted to see something so i shut down and removed, then plugged it back and this happened
[19:36] <chrisss123456> so i re flashed the USB with ubuntu
[19:36] <chrisss123456> and still this problem
[19:36] <TJ-> chrisss123456: What you describe sounds very much like the firmware reads the disk looking for the boot strap code and can't find it
[19:37] <chrisss123456> TJ-: then what do you suggest? i flashed it again and its still making this problem…
[19:37] <chrisss123456> oh wait
[19:37] <chrisss123456> wow
[19:37] <chrisss123456> jesus
[19:37] <chrisss123456> i put it in another USB slot and it worked
[19:37] <TJ-> chrisss123456: I'd recommend testing the checksum of the ISO image you used to write the image, with the checksum of the USB
[19:38] <chrisss123456> why…
[19:38] <TJ-> chrisss123456: OK ... USB3 and USB2 ports?
[19:38] <chrisss123456> shouldnt be, but apparently so? not sure
[19:38] <chrisss123456> lemme check
[19:38] <amira> hello
[19:39] <TJ-> chrisss123456: If the PC doesn't power-off completely, some USB chipsets maintain power and configuration to USB ports and 'bind' the port to one of the USB controllers rather than allowing the port to 'float' between the controllers. Total power-off (battery out on laptops) can sometimes clear that state. It is rare, though.
[19:39] <chrisss123456> TJ-: i think thats the issue. its an “Always-on” usb port
[19:40] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Glad we solved it :)
[19:40] <chrisss123456> TJ-: Thanks for the help
[19:40] <chrisss123456> :)
[19:40] <chrisss123456> TJ-: actually, may i ask another question?
[19:40] <TJ-> chrisss123456: whilst you're on a roll ... :)
[19:41] <Kireji> with new users there's some program that runs that lists dist-updates that are available, packages that needs updating, it cats the content of /etc/legal and then prints last login.  with no shell or homedir it drops the new user into / and runs sh -- What is the program that does all these steps?  (specifically, I want to see how it's finding the number of packages to update and dist-updates available, so I can use them elsewhere)
[19:41] <chrisss123456> i would like to install ubuntu, but not remove a recovery partition. but when i choose what partitions to remove, it shows me a bunch of others (including the old win8 os partition). these i think are system partitions and should not be touched, right?
[19:41] <TJ-> Kireji: login and pam_motd and friends
[19:43] <usr13> chrisss123456: If it's a desktop, best to just add a second hard drive.
[19:43] <ingsoc> anyone know of any issues with ubuntu and DNS resolution
[19:43] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Those partitions and their uses are very much manufacturer-specific so it'd be difficult for me to advise you accurately, but generally there can be 1 or 2 'hidden' (from Windows users) partitions with Recovery and other Windows-specific tools in them
[19:43] <ingsoc> 12.04 32bit
[19:43] <ingsoc> get intermittent extremely slow dns
[19:43] <ingsoc> timing out etc.
[19:43]  * TJ- wves to ingsoc
[19:43] <ingsoc> other machines on same network no problems
[19:43] <ingsoc> hey there
[19:43] <chrisss123456> TJ-: alright, well i’ll leave them. im on a laptop :)
[19:44] <TJ-> ingsoc: As the PCs are on wireless I'm going to hazard a guess that at certain times of the day something overloads or interferes with the radio signals - does someone turn on a microwave to cook their lumch, for example?
[19:45] <TJ-> ingsoc: There should be evidence (if the wireless connection drops) in "/var/log/syslog" and their might also be indications of kernel-level driver faults in "/var/log/kern.log" - check for log timestamps matching the time the DNS had problems
[19:45] <haled> my laptop has a blinking thin white line on the top left part of the screen when using Ubuntu (but not win7). How can I fix this?
[19:45] <chrisss123456> TJ-: got a problem: i’m unable to install because it gives me this error: “No root file system is defined”
[19:46] <TJ-> haled: You mean you're using the desktop and pointing and clicking and a white line shows on the desktop, or do you mean you start the PC and as soon as firmware tries to load the boot-loader you get a blank screen with a blinking underline cursor top-left ?
[19:47] <TJ-> chrisss123456: That makes sense; you probably didn't assign one in the Installer :)
[19:47] <chrisss123456> TJ-: haha ok, how do I? :P
[19:47] <haled> using the desktop GUI of linux and then the white line appears and disappears about once every 0.1 sec
[19:48] <haled> any text environment (virtual servers included) seems just fine
[19:48] <TJ-> chrisss123456: I'm guessing you're using the manual partitioning method in the installer to choose where things get put?
[19:48] <chrisss123456> TJ-: yea, and where things are erased (or is that not what the - sign is for…?)
[19:48] <TJ-> haled: Hmmm, that sounds very weird, almost like a flashing hardware cursor
[19:49] <haled> TJ-, the cursor seems ok
[19:49] <TJ-> chrisss123456: In the manual partitioner, there are several options for each partition you're configuring, and one is to set what the partition will be used for (I think they call it "mount"), and one of the options is "/" which means the root file-system.
[19:50] <TJ-> haled: Have you checked the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" in case that gives clues of a hardware/driver issue?
[19:50] <haled> nope. good idea :)
[19:50] <chrisss123456> TJ-: ah, i think i understand. thank you again :)
[19:50] <ingsoc> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=58712
[19:50] <ingsoc> /etc/nsswitch.conf
[19:51] <ingsoc> what does that file do
[19:51] <ingsoc> and i changed hosts to
[19:51] <TJ-> ingsoc: Are those systems configured to use "nscd" ?
[19:51] <ingsoc> hosts:          files dns
[19:51] <ingsoc> and it is lightning now
[19:51] <ingsoc> wtf
[19:51] <ingsoc> WTF ????
[19:51] <ingsoc> lol
[19:52] <ingsoc> i had previously disabled ipv6
[19:52] <TJ-> ingsoc: Ahhh!
[19:52] <ingsoc> as people say that has an effect
[19:52] <ingsoc> loads of things i have tried
[19:52] <ingsoc> i cannot believe i just stumbled on that now
[19:52] <ingsoc> after weeks
[19:52] <ingsoc> must be you giving me good luck TJ-:
[19:52] <k1l_> ingsoc: please reduce the ammount of enter usage. you might get caught as spam
[19:53] <ingsoc> k1l_: sorry, just excited
[19:53] <ingsoc> TJ-: why the "Ahhhhh"
[19:53] <TJ-> ingsoc: So is it that the DNS resolver is returning AAAA (IPv6) records which those clients (with IPv6 disabled)  cannot reach?
[19:54] <chrisss123456> TJ-: ok, im confused and slightly scared.
[19:54] <ingsoc> TJ-: spoke too soon, still seems slow again now
[19:54] <ingsoc> but why
[19:55] <TJ-> ingsoc: What dns name is going slow? Try to manually reproduce the timeout using "dig <hostname>"
[19:56] <TJ-> chrisss123456: what's up?
[19:56] <chrisss123456> TJ-: so i’ve just read up on what i’m about to do, and it seems either unwise or dangerous, so if i may i will explain fully.
[19:57] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Go ahead, lots of people here are familiar with the installer
[19:57] <onto> Hi! According to synaptic, I have gettext v0.18.1 but gettext --version gives me "0.11.5"
[19:57] <onto> How do I upgrade gettext? I need at least 0.12 as a dependency
[19:57] <chrisss123456> i just bought a laptop with win8, which has an included recovery partition in the disk. it also has 2 other partitions which I dont know the nature of (presumably the windows extra stuff). now, i dont particularly care about win8, but i would like to keep the recovery partition should things go south
[19:57] <k1l_> onto: which ubuntu?
[19:57] <TJ-> onto: what does "which gettext" report ?
[19:58] <onto> k1l_: precise
[19:58] <chrisss123456> But, i’ve read that i shouldnt delete the windows partition (http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation/343370#343370), and then the installer also mentioned swap, which i should presumably create
[19:58] <k1l_> onto: apt-cache policy gettext
[19:59] <TJ-> chrisss123456: You know that you can simply shrink the Windows 8 partition's size to the minimum required, by starting Windows and going into Control Panel's Administrative Tools and running Disk Management?
[19:59] <onto> TJ-: Ah, I see the problem. That was the solution. It was apparently using lampp version of gettext instead of the system gettext, I had set the bin directory in my PATH environment variable
[19:59] <onto> Thanks!
[19:59] <TJ-> chrisss123456: That way could keep everything in place, create space for Ubuntu, and be happy
[19:59] <chrisss123456> TJ-: yea, but i’d like to remove it.
[19:59] <ingsoc> TJ-: I will get back to you.  when it goes to shit again i will dig @alternate_dns_server address_to_lookup
[19:59] <k1l_> onto: lamp :/
[20:00] <chrisss123456> haha i only want the recovery partition if things go bad, but apart from that i dont wanna touch win8 again
[20:00] <onto> k1l_: I'm moving to docker for development. :p
[20:01] <TJ-> chrisss123456: OK ... how about doing it in 2 stages .... shrink Windows 8, install Ubuntu in the spare space, see how things go then in a few days delete the Windows file-system and replace it with one you can add to the Ubuntu installation? If in the Ubuntu installer you choose an LVM install, that'll allow Linux to effectively join separate partitions into one volume group for Linux use
[20:02] <chrisss123456> TJ-: that’s a good idea. but i’m trying to undestand why it is bad to delete the windows partition (and the two system ones) if i was planning on doing that. (save for the recovery partition)
[20:03] <TJ-> chrisss123456: It's not, but you seem unsure right now so I'm suggesting a compromise that - if the Ubuntu install goes wrong - still leaves a working PC with networking ability
[20:03] <compengi> Hello everyone, I'm copying bunch of folder from one directory to another using "rsync" but I get "rsync: mkdir "/path/to/folder" failed: Permission denied (13)" the "folder" exists and I'm executing this command:  rsync -aq --progress . /path/to/folder. I know that rsync maybe trying to create the "folder" folder and it already exists, that why? Other than that the "folder" has read/write permissions to the user
[20:04] <manskal_> s
[20:04] <manskal_> hi
[20:04] <manskal_> users
[20:04] <chrisss123456> TJ-: fair point. thanks again :)
[20:04] <TJ-> chrisss123456: last time I did that Windows needed about 28GB - not sure what Win8 would need
[20:06] <Krapulat> Hi, I’m trying to install php5-redis but I get: “E: Unable to locate package php5-redis”. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04.
[20:06] <chrisss123456> TJ-: you know what… im starting to have a change of heart. the recovery disk is so that if i should send the laptop for software issues, then it can be fixed in warranty (heard it helps)
[20:06] <chrisss123456> TJ-: but, i’d like to just stick with linux, so i think i’ll wipe the entire disk and start anew
[20:07] <TJ-> chrisss123456: In that case I usually take a backup of the recovery image so it can be replaced if needed. At some point in the future you may want to resell the PC, for example
[20:07] <TJ-> chrisss123456: You've paid for a Windows licence as part of the PC, so no point throwing that away
[20:08] <chrisss123456> TJ-: i was trying to do that but with no luck: all the methods i found wipe the drive you’re backing up to, and i dont have a free one :/
[20:08] <chrisss123456> thats not supposed ot be a snarky face
[20:08] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Do you have another disk drive with an existing file-system on it big enough to take the recovery image?
[20:08] <runa> heyas. suddenly, only half of my touchpad works, the left half is vertical scroll. I've tried setting the LeftEdge=0 using synclient with no luck. I'm not really interested in gestures, so I'm fine losing that. Any hints?
[20:09] <jjavaholic> is there a way to spend up font selection from instead the gnome-tweak-tool when you have 16,000 + fonts to choose from?
[20:09] <chrisss123456> TJ-: sadly no. i have a communal backup disk that i back other systems on (which i dont want to wipe, of course)
[20:10] <samthewildone> Just created a bash script, how  do I enable keyboard commands to launch that script ? For example, three taps of "F1" on desktop launches script
[20:10] <TJ-> chrisss123456: It is relatively simple to write the partition image to a simple file: E.g. lets assume /dev/sda2 is a recovery image on the PC, and you've plugged in a USB 3 external hard disk with a file-system that has mounted to "/media/ubuntu/disk1" - it'd simply be "sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/ubuntu/disk1/laptop-recovery-sda2.img bs=1M"
[20:11] <TJ-> chrisss123456: oops! my typo! that should be "if=/dev/sda2" of course!
[20:12] <chrisss123456> TJ-: oh wow that’s seemingly simple.
[20:12] <chrisss123456> ok so if i had the partition with the recovery drive (which would be the most sensible to copy, right?)
[20:13] <chrisss123456> oh dear. it doesnt want to access the hard drive :/
[20:13] <The_NetZ> hey. current release, what kernel version does it have?
[20:13] <chrisss123456> :( *
[20:13] <TJ-> chrisss123456: If you wanted to attempt compression of the recovery image you could pipe the data read by 'dd' through gzip, like so: "sudo sh -c 'dd if=/dev/sda1  bs=1M | gzip >/media/ubuntu/disk1/laptop-recovery-sda2.img.gz'  "
[20:14] <k1l_> !info linux-image-generic | The_NetZ
[20:14] <chrisss123456> TJ-: oh and then i could transfer it to a usb key?
[20:14] <The_NetZ> k1l_: thanks. apparently my b43 card doesn't like kernel 3.16.1 yet
[20:14] <TJ-> chrisss123456: My thought is that the USB key would be the the device mounted at /media/ubuntu/disk1/
[20:15] <TJ-> chrisss123456: When a removable device is connected and has valid file-systems a standard Ubuntu system will auto-mount it under "/media/$USER/<disk-label-or-UUID>"
[20:15] <chrisss123456> TJ-: mmh, ok. but my hard disk is not allowed? (Unable to access “DISK”)
[20:16] <chrisss123456> TJ-: i suppose it doesn’t have a valid file system…
[20:16] <TJ-> chrisss123456: In the Live environment the username is "ubuntu" of course, hence my example using "/media/ubuntu/ ..."
[20:17] <chrisss123456> TJ-: ok, but do you have an idea why it’s not allowed? it has a fat32 partition, which should be allowed, right’
[20:17] <chrisss123456> ?
[20:17] <TJ-> chrisss123456: That was just my example, the name you use depends on what the file-system is known as. Do "ls /media/$USER/" to find out if there's a directory for the device
[20:17] <runa> (sorry, missed the answer, if any) heyas. suddenly, only half of my touchpad works, the left half is vertical scroll. I've tried setting the LeftEdge=0 using synclient with no luck. I'm not really interested in gestures, so I'm fine losing that. Any hints?
[20:17] <TJ-> chrisss123456: You can also do "mount | grep '/media/' "
[20:18] <dav1dp0101> TJ- , I'm having the same problem from before: my root filesystem for some reason is being duplicated in the directory /mnt/*}. Do you know why?
[20:18] <TJ-> chrisss123456: If the FAT32 file-system had a label "Donkey" you'd see "/media/ubuntu/Donkey"
[20:18] <dav1dp0101> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8253101/
[20:18] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: "pastebinit < <(mount && stat /mnt)"
[20:19] <chrisss123456> TJ-: if i do cd /media/ubuntu, and then ls it shows nothing...
[20:19] <Krapulat> How can I install php5-redis in Precise?
[20:19] <TJ-> chrisss123456: OK, so it hasn't been mounted yet. In the Ubuntu file manager double-click the icon representing the USB device and it should then be mounted
[20:19] <dav1dp0101> TJ- and here is the stat /mnt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8253118/
[20:20] <chrisss123456> TJ-: it gives an error: Unable to access “DISK”
[20:20] <TJ-> chrisss123456: That's from the GUI, and the USB device's FAT32 file-system is called "DISK" ?
[20:21] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: How about "stat /"
[20:21] <chrisss123456> TJ-: no, full name is: 1.9TB Volume
[20:21] <maverick_> fala pessoal do brasil
[20:21] <TJ-> chrisss123456: USB device is 1.9TB ?
[20:21] <dav1dp0101> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8253132/
[20:21] <chrisss123456> TJ-: it’s an external hard-drive
[20:22] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: OK, well "/" and "/mnt" are hard-linked on the same inode, so it isn't that
[20:22] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: "pastebin < <(ls -al /mnt/*)"
[20:23] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: There's my entire root directory in there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8253154/
[20:24] <dav1dp0101> TJ- also the name of the directory is /mnt/*}. I've never heard of a directory called "*}". What could that signify?
[20:25] <waveofd00m> Hello guys, I want to install a package in ubuntu 14.04 which will be released with ubuntu 14.10. Is this possible?
[20:25] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: OK, lets compare inodes: "pastebinit < <(ls -ial /  /mnt/)"
[20:26] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: Oh! You've managed to create a directory with the literal asterisk character during a "cp" operation it looks like
[20:26] <antonio__> Hey folks...
[20:27] <dav1dp0101> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8253178/
[20:27] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: That makes total sense, I would make a mistake like that. The problem is that I deleted it earlier today. And then later today, I came back and it was there again.
[20:27] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: "  sudo rm -rf "/mnt/\*\}"    "
[20:28] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: Maybe I'm making an error in an rsync command on my crontab.
[20:28] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: Yes, that would explain it perfectly
[20:28] <Stuttergart> hi, everyone
[20:28] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: I will send you my crontab via pastebin.
[20:28] <Stuttergart> can someone point me to the docs on the libdevel subsection of the apt repo?
[20:28] <waveofd00m> Hello guys, I want to install a package in ubuntu 14.04 which will be released with ubuntu 14.10. Is this possible?
[20:29] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: sounds like the shell is interpreting literal characters rather than expanding them
[20:29] <Stuttergart> I'm trying to figure out how exactly I would enable that section
[20:29] <dav1dp0101> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8253192/
[20:29] <TJ-> Stuttergart: It's already enabled
[20:29] <chrisss123456> TJ-: thoughts?
[20:29] <Valarkin_> Hoping there might be someone who can help me with an installation media free reconfiguration of a borked RAID config on an rented dedi box. I've posted at AskUbuntu (http://askubuntu.com/questions/520210/ovh-dedi-14-04-server-raid-reconfiguration-help-for-a-total-noob) and asked here previously, but am terribly noob.
[20:29] <jhutchins> waveofd00m: It might be possible, it's usually a bad idea.
[20:30] <carpediembaby> Hello, i have installed ubuntu 14.04 on vmware but i cant seem to get shared folders to mount. Could someone please point me to a howto that works?
[20:30] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Where are you stuck now? There's not a lot I can do from here if you're having problems mounting the external device
[20:30] <Valarkin_> carpe: have you installed the guest addition
[20:30] <Valarkin_> s?
[20:31] <Valarkin_> oops vmware
[20:31] <Valarkin_> nm
[20:31] <Valarkin_> :d
[20:31] <chrisss123456> TJ-: well im just completely unable to mount the hard drive. and for seemingly no reason.
[20:31] <waveofd00m> jhutchins: can you tell me how it works?
[20:31] <antonio__> Tried to backup my home folder yesterday.  Only backed up about 193 gigs of like 300gigs.  Is it possible that there is a report as to what went wrong?  Or is it possible to setup some kind of debugging I can do?
[20:32] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: "man rsync" "/^INCLUDE\EXCLUDE" ... "Note also that the --filter, --include, and --exclude options take one rule/pattern each. To add multiple ones, you can repeat the options on  the  command-line..."
[20:32] <waveofd00m> jhutchins: I need this package -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnuradio/3.7.3-9
[20:33] <jhutchins> waveofd00m: If the package has dependencies that are not in 14.04 it won't install.  If you enable a 14.10 repository so it can pull those dependencies, they might break other things in 14.04.
[20:34] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Hmmm, check the log file: "tail /var/log/syslog" just after you've tried mounting the drive. If nothing shows there, try "tail /home/$USER/.xsession-errors"
[20:34] <jhutchins> waveofd00m: Even if everything goes smoothly, you may create problems updating the 14.04 system.  Usually those problems get so tangled that the only solution is a clean install.
[20:34] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: Could you help me reformulate that rsync command? I want it to copy everything from the root directory onto an external hard drive which is mounted at /fileBackups and /imageBackups.
[20:34] <dav1dp0101> TJ- : here is the existing rsync. I know I should remove the "*" from the target because that is probably part of the problem.
[20:34] <jhutchins> waveofd00m: The proper way to do it is to get the source of the package and compile it against 14.04 libraries (if possible).  This is called "backporting".
[20:35] <chrisss123456> TJ-: ah. there’s some stuff there.
[20:35] <jhutchins> waveofd00m: I know almost nothing about backporting in ubuntu.
[20:35] <chrisss123456> lots of assumptions: Assuming drive cache: write through. and that sorta stuff
[20:35] <waveofd00m> jhutchins: ok, thanks for your advice. I think I will stick with the older version of the package. Thank you!
[20:35] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: "/usr/bin/rsync -aAXv /* /fileBackups --exclude={"/dev/*", "/fileBackups/*","/media/*","/imageBackups/*", "/mnt/*"} "
[20:35] <dav1dp0101> /usr/bin/rsync -aAXv /* /fileBackups --exclude={"/dev/*", "/fileBackups/*","/media/*","/imageBackups/*", "/mnt/*"}
[20:35] <dav1dp0101> /usr/bin/rsync -aAXv /* /fileBackups --exclude={"/dev/*", "/fileBackups/*","/media/*","/imageBackups/*", "/mnt/*"}
[20:35] <dav1dp0101> /usr/bin/rsync -aAXv /* /fileBackups --exclude={"/dev/*", "/fileBackups/*","/media/*","/imageBackups/*", "/mnt/*"}
[20:35] <chrisss123456> last one is Attached SCSI disk
[20:35] <dav1dp0101> /usr/bin/rsync -aAXv /* /fileBackups --exclude={"/dev/*", "/fileBackups/*","/media/*","/imageBackups/*", "/mnt/*"}
[20:36] <dav1dp0101> whoops sorry everyone about that repetition.
[20:36] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: I'm not an guru with rsync; last time I built a complex command-line with --exclude and --include it took me 1/2 a day to perfect it :)
[20:37] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: gotcha!
[20:37] <dav1dp0101> TJ-: thanks for diagnosing the problem. I'm going to work on it.
[20:37] <erretrogamer> OhOhOh
[20:37] <bandit-led> from archlinux
[20:37] <bandit-led> # rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /* /path/to/backup/folder
[20:37] <bandit-led> run as sudo ^^
[20:37] <erretrogamer> Xubuntu
[20:37] <bandit-led> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync#With_a_single_command
[20:38] <erretrogamer> Algun español?
[20:38] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: but as you're trying to exclude other file-systems mounted on "/" I think you might want "--one-file-system"
[20:39] <TJ-> dav1dp0101: That will avoid you needing to specifically --exclude mountpoints like /dev/ and /fileBackups/ and so forth
[20:39] <jhutchins> bandit-led: of course you could always just keep repeating the --exclude
[20:39] <bandit-led> i use a list file when i rsync
[20:39] <jhutchins> !es
[20:40] <TJ-> chrisss123456: those are regular messages we'd expect. What I would be looking for were 'denied' or 'error' reports trying to mount the device's file-system(s)
[20:40] <erretrogamer> ubottu Thanks
[20:40] <bandit-led> jhutchins, rsync -au --progress --exclude-from /pathto/list.txt /foldertobackup "/foldertosavebackup"
[20:41] <bandit-led> so i update the exclude list with new folders i dont want to backup
[20:41] <antonio__> Tried to backup my home folder yesterday.  Only backed up about 193 gigs of like 300gigs.  Is it possible that there is a report as to what went wrong?  Or is it possible to setup some kind of debugging I can do?
[20:41] <jhutchins> bandit-led: --exclude="foo" --exclude="bar"
[20:41] <bandit-led> jhutchins, nice i might look into changing the way i backup
[20:42] <jhutchins> bandit-led: I solved it that way once when I couldn't figure out the format for a multi-spec --exclude.  Not exactly wrong, but certainly inelegant.
[20:42] <carpediembaby> What are the characters marked inside <> brackets in vim and how can i remove them?
[20:42] <chrisss123456> TJ-: then nothing. if i run the .xsession errors one, it has a list of “stuff main process ended, respawning” like 8 times, then “respawning too fast, stopped"
[20:43] <jhutchins> carpediembaby: Um, example?  Do they not appear with cat or less?
[20:43] <TJ-> chrisss123456: Hmmm, that is never a very helpful log file! I'm not sure why you're having the issue, maybe someone else has more insight. I generally focus on low-level and complex system issues rather than the desktop
[20:43] <carpediembaby> jhutchins: <98><85>. I see them inside the file when open with vim
[20:44] <chrisss123456> TJ-: thanks anyway :) would it be possible to just zip the recovery drive as you said, but on the desktop, and then copy it somewhere else?
[20:44] <carpediembaby> jhutchins: it is displayed already like this.
[20:44] <bandit-led> jhutchins, i use the list and just update the file when i want to add or remove a folder, i also keep a list on each device of folders not to backup
[20:44] <jhutchins> carpediembaby: That's the position of the cursor.
[20:45] <jhutchins> carpediembaby: unset ruler
[20:45] <carpediembaby> jhutchins: No, it is inside the text. I am copying the text from the file. For example "e Writing +,â<98><85> Free Resume Analysis â<98><85>"
[20:45] <Pici> 70
[20:45] <amehar> hello
[20:46] <TJ-> chrisss123456: If there's sufficient space, yes, but if you're using the desktop live ISO then everything is living in RAM - it doesn't touch the disk. Another reason for the shrink-Windows-Install-Ubuntu-alongside-then-do-everything-else approach :)
[20:46] <amehar> does anyone know of a debian equiv to centos rpm -qa --changelog
[20:46] <jhutchins> carpediembaby: It's using a different encoding.
[20:46] <carpediembaby> jhutchins: I am reading a tab separated files and wherever these characters appear, it is taken as a new line in python at least
[20:46] <chrisss123456> TJ-: alright then fair enough, i concede :P haha thank you so much for your help :)
[20:46] <TJ-> chrisss123456: :P
[20:47] <carpediembaby> jhutchins: i was told it is utf-8
[20:47] <bandit-led> amehar, thats lists the installed rpms?
[20:47] <carpediembaby> so i set encoding and fileencoding to utf-8
[20:47] <jhutchins> amehar: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/apt-listchanges.1.html
[20:48] <amehar> bandit-led: the --changelog lists the changes of all the updates, ie the CVE patches
[20:48] <jhutchins> carpediembaby: Sorry, not sure how to handle that.
[20:49] <jhutchins> amehar: Also found in /usr/share/doc/<package>/
[20:51] <iceroot> how to find all packages installed from a specific repo? (backports in this case)
[20:51] <amehar> jhutchins: any way to list all? from all packages?
[20:51] <Lyude> Hi, is there any way to get a sshd instance running on an ubuntu server installer before you've actually installed the OS?
[20:52] <bandit-led> amehar, you want to list the changelogs after you install or before?
[20:52] <iceroot> Lyude: why do you want that? to control the installation process?
[20:53] <Lyude> iceroot, trying to help a friend figure out why his raid setup on his server isn't coming up on the installer
[20:53] <Lyude> that's the easiest way for me to figure out what's going on
[20:54] <iceroot> Lyude: you can install raid (sw raid) after the system is finished
[20:54] <iceroot> Lyude: if it is hardware raid, you dont have any doing in ubuntu, that is part of the controler and its bios
[20:55] <user123321> I tried "sudo chown -R $USER html" at /var/www directory but I still get errors in apache2 logs as "Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0"
[20:55] <iceroot> Lyude: you could boot a live-system and then start the installer from there, you can install openssh-server before
[20:55] <Lyude> iceroot, the raid is coming up perfectly on the windows server install on it, so the only thing I can think is for whatever reason linux isn't detecting the hardware raid
[20:55] <Lyude> oh, you can run the server installer from the livecd?
[20:56] <iceroot> Lyude: i would use the desktop live cd and install a non gui version there
[20:56] <iceroot> Lyude: server is the desktop version without the gui
[20:56] <iceroot> Lyude: the other differences where removed in the past
[20:56] <carpediembaby> jhutchins: Okay, thank you for trying !
[20:56] <iceroot> Lyude: and if ubuntu is not detecing any hdd drives i would say the raid controller is not supported (with the initramfs)
[20:57] <bandit-led> amehar, sudo apt-get changelog packagename
[20:59] <Lyude> iceroot, yeah that's what I was thinking
[21:11] <TJ-> Lyude: If it's fakeRAID you'll probably need to install dmraid
[21:16] <Valarkin_> Hoping there might be someone who can help me with an installation media free reconfiguration of a borked RAID config on an rented dedi box. I've posted at AskUbuntu (http://askubuntu.com/questions/520210/ovh-dedi-14-04-server-raid-reconfiguration-help-for-a-total-noob) and asked here previously, but am stuck.
[21:20] <etronik> HI all
[21:20] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: can't you just have them redo the installation and set up the RAID array properly?
[21:20] <Valarkin_> friday: Nope, they say thats the way it is, figure it out.
[21:21] <etronik> got this problem trying to sync dirs using unison, keeps getting errors on a gvfs pointing to a samba share...  any helpers ?
[21:21] <Valarkin_> I'm at the point where my head wants to explode. ;)
[21:22] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: for $150 a month, they say they're not going to help you? WTF.
[21:22] <etronik> Valarkin_, do the Ice-bickets challenge ! ;-)
[21:22] <etronik> Valarkin_, do the Ice-buckets challenge ! ;-)
[21:22] <s-fox> o/
[21:22] <Valarkin_> Friday: IKR? I've been shouting down the phone and disinterested irishmen all day
[21:23] <Valarkin_> Well, half the day - I do not start off shouting ;)
[21:24] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: I would tell them I'm taking my $150/month elsewhere.
[21:24] <Valarkin_> I wish it were an option.
[21:24] <blackangelpr> call the bank
[21:24] <blackangelpr> always an option
[21:24] <blackangelpr> no service no money
[21:24] <Valarkin_> always _supposed_ to be an option. The reality is often very different.
[21:25] <fridaynext> but seriously, I'd probably just pay someone in this room to fix that problem.
[21:25] <blackangelpr> (O_o)??
[21:25] <fridaynext> I have no idea how to change a raid array that your OS is loaded on already.
[21:25] <Valarkin_> The bank's customers are the vendors. They facilitate them, not the customer.
[21:26] <ahmadexp> if it is raid zero, you probably cannot
[21:26] <Valarkin_> I was wondering, since it loads a net image for recovery mode, if I couldn't do a net install using the real media?
[21:26] <Valarkin_> ahma: http://pastebin.com/hGnK9Znp is the current raid config
[21:27] <Valarkin_> ikonia told me earlier: "that's 1 disk with 5 mirrors and zero spares. It has 5 allocated mirrors - it's a very bad config"
[21:27] <fridaynext> i would think you could remove drives from the array one at a time.
[21:28] <fridaynext> dunno how you'd get the last one to jump into a RAID5 array though...
[21:30] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: you on that plan for all the HDD space?
[21:30] <Valarkin_> well, I think the pattern would be: keep hda as sys/swap (all 4tb) with raid1 on hdb - then create a raid5 with the other 4 disks. Bu that would eat 8 of 16 TB right?
[21:31] <Valarkin_> yeah, I was hpoing to move some rented hosting over once i am amore comfortable and I want to uuse part as offsite backup
[21:31] <etronik> got this problem trying to sync dirs using unison, it churns away for hours then stops with an error on lstat command on a gvfs pointing to a samba share...  any helpers ?
[21:31] <Valarkin_> I thought I was getting a dedi box just to avoid this kinda sfuff
[21:32] <Valarkin_> but a dedibox you can not control the installation of isnt really a dedibox is it?
[21:32] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: was gonna say, for that money, I'd want a Linode 8G, but it only has 192GB of SSD storage.
[21:33] <Valarkin_> Seems an awfully strange way to allocate 6 drives to me
[21:33] <dimitry7> hey guys
[21:33] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: yeah, they obviously screwed it up.  Ridiculous they won't fix it for you.
[21:33] <Valarkin_> Worse, they were treating my req for raid5 as if I were asking them to make lead into gold
[21:33] <dimitry7> I am using ntop to monitor my network I see in the RRD Graph the messures
[21:33] <dimitry7> M, k and m
[21:33] <fridaynext> You just push the install buttons and watch it work - or leave. so easy.
[21:33] <dimitry7> which one is megabytes¡
[21:33] <Valarkin_> "We have never had anoyne ask for raid 5 or 6" and "I've never heard of anyone wanting thast"
[21:33] <fridaynext> M megabytes, k kilobits, m megabits.
[21:34] <dimitry7> fridaynext, okay perfect! Thanks!!
[21:34] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: what?? They must not have been in business long.
[21:34] <Valarkin_> OVH - I dont think they aresmall are they?
[21:35] <fridaynext> dimitry7: np
[21:35] <Valarkin_> I'm happy to take suggestions for a replacement provider
[21:35] <blackangelpr> cant stand those guys LOL hilarious i would always prefer a freenas over them XD
[21:35] <Valarkin_> I may just have to eat this months fees. Sux, but there ya go.
[21:35] <Ben64> if you can't figure stuff out on your own, ovh isn't a good choice
[21:35] <Valarkin_> I've doen remarkably ewrll so far
[21:35] <fridaynext> at least it's only one month's cost of lesson learned.
[21:36] <Valarkin_> but I can not get around their base install raid config
[21:36] <Valarkin_> by the sound of it THEY can't either - or won't
[21:36] <fridaynext> I love Linode, but they don't have big storage.  I'm looking through their extras, adn they don't even have big storage extra packs.
[21:36] <Valarkin_> I'm gonna try again tomorrow with them, cancel if not.
[21:36] <fridaynext> Likely b/c they only use SSD.
[21:37] <Ben64> Valarkin_: its soft raid, and last i checked you can netboot and fix it, but go ahead and do what you like
[21:37] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: actually yeah, why don't you just build a NAS of your own?
[21:37] <Valarkin_> oh no ben, I'd love to know the workaround
[21:37] <Valarkin_> I don't feel i should have to, but am willing to learn
[21:37] <Valarkin_> this seems like their borking,  not mine
[21:38] <Valarkin_> but if you know a fix, fire away :D
[21:38] <Ben64> you could use their config and it would work fine
[21:38] <Valarkin_> could you elucidate?
[21:38] <Ben64> it's currently working, so whats the problem
[21:39] <Valarkin_> it is working in the sense that the machine will boot, not in the sense that I have the disk config I want.
[21:39] <Nothing_Much> Question: Does a wifi range extender cause problems with Ubuntu and Linux in general?
[21:40] <Valarkin_> friday: how difficult a process is it?
[21:41] <Valarkin_> NAS I mean
[21:41] <blackangelpr> Nothing_Much,  what do you mean when you turned on the signal goes away or something?
[21:42] <Valarkin_> friday: http://www.freenas.org/ ?
[21:43] <fridaynext> Valarkin_: I built one, and I didn't think I was too savvy at the time.
[21:43] <xcyclist> Say, I'm trying to work off the apt install of rbenv on Ubuntu.  I cannot see the version  of rbenv itself.
[21:44] <fridaynext> I personally use Ubuntu 14.04 server on my NAS. I like that I can install whatever I want on it.
[21:44] <xcyclist> I get:
[21:44] <xcyclist> $ rbenv -v /usr/lib/rbenv/libexec/rbenv---version: line 17: cd: /home/xeno/.rbenv: No such file or directory
[21:44] <fridaynext> Locally, I get Samba transfers of 90-110MB/s
[21:44] <fridaynext> The only thing I run that I access from outside the network is Plex, which streams great up to 4-5mbps (TWC upload limit)
[21:45] <fridaynext> But then again, Valarkin_, I think you said your main goal was off-site storage. This would likely not be off-site.
[21:45] <Valarkin_> offsite relative to my office friday
[21:45] <blackangelpr> freenas works with windows and linux etc have become extremly good and still until now linux do not have sadly a competitor you can do snapshots on freenas
[21:45] <blackangelpr> lots of companies use them
[21:46] <fridaynext> You could build a freenas box (or any NAS) for probably less than a year's cost at that $150/month place.
[21:46] <fridaynext> I built a system with four 2TB WD Reds for around $500.
[21:46] <fridaynext> G1610 does all I need from this machine.
[21:46] <antonio__> Tried to backup my home folder yesterday.  Only backed up about 193 gigs of like 300gigs.  Is it possible that there is a report as to what went wrong?  Or is it possible to setup some kind of debugging I can do?
[21:47] <Valarkin_> basically I need multiuser torrent funtionality, decent pipe, and enough spare capacity to virtualise a couple of web servers
[21:47] <blackangelpr> antonio__,  do you mean using your ubuntu back up ?
[21:47] <fridaynext> you probably want something not in your house then, Valarkin_
[21:47] <ikonia> Valarkin_: are you still struggling ?
[21:47] <Valarkin_> yeah, thats why I went with ovh
[21:48] <Valarkin_> keep it all in a nice managed environment, they worry about hardware
[21:49] <Valarkin_> my local badwidth is atrocious, so a remote server is really the only optin in that regard. By offsite Ibackup I meant the ability to mirror some stuff off my local storage.
[21:49] <Valarkin_> oh, seriously ikonia
[21:49] <Valarkin_> while your advice made sense conceptually, the application of same has proven....difficult
[21:50] <Valarkin_> I might should step away from it, but it gnaws at my brain.
[21:55] <daskdt> Anyone know a good flow charting software (like lucidchart) thats free for linux? I have a pseudocode class and I need something to do flowcharts.
[21:55] <iszak> Where should I place an application I'm installing from source?
[21:55] <ikonia> anywhere you want
[21:55] <TJ-> daskdt: The obvious although basic package is "dia"
[21:56] <k1l_> /opt
[21:56] <iszak> is there a convention?
[21:56] <ikonia> no
[21:56] <iszak> what does /opt stand for?
[21:56] <daskdt> DIA?
[21:56] <ikonia> iszak: what are you installing ?
[21:56] <daskdt> TJ-:
[21:56] <k1l_> or /home if its only for the user
[21:56] <k1l_> iszak: optional
[21:58] <Radon_3> hi everybody. I have just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my lenovo laptop, now I am having doubts cause I completed the installation process without an internet connection. Are there probably some drivers that needed to have internet connection to get installed on my device or not?
[21:58] <Radon_3> is there anything I could do at this point?
[21:58] <ikonia> Radon_3: boot the machine and find out
[21:59] <Radon_3> ok
[21:59] <Delta706> if there is a bug in pulseaudio relating to a supported card, is it likely that ubuntu devs will fix it?
[21:59] <Radon_3> w8
[21:59] <ikonia> Delta706: no
[21:59] <Slart_> Radon_3: I don't think it will make a difference.. afaik you still get drivers for wifi/ethernet no matter if there is nothing connected at install
[21:59] <xcyclist> Say, I'm trying to work off the apt install of rbenv on Ubuntu.  I cannot see the version  of rbenv itself.
[21:59] <Delta706> even though it is supported?
[21:59] <xcyclist> I get:
[21:59] <xcyclist> $ rbenv -v /usr/lib/rbenv/libexec/rbenv---version: line 17: cd: /home/xeno/.rbenv: No such file or directory
[21:59] <ikonia> xcyclist: work off ?
[21:59] <ikonia> Delta706: correct
[22:00] <xcyclist> oh,
[22:00] <Delta706> can devs help me to fix it?
[22:00] <xcyclist> I mean I installed it using apt, instead of git clone.
[22:00] <ikonia> Delta706: unlikley
[22:00] <TJ-> Delta706: what bug?
[22:00] <ikonia> Delta706: you need to log a bug, then the ubuntu team will work it through the up/downsream support cycle if it's applicatle to the release.
[22:01] <xcyclist> Is perhaps the apt install known to be broken, or have I left off something?
[22:01] <ikonia> xcyclist: no
[22:01] <ikonia> !info rbenv
[22:01] <xcyclist> When I install it with git clone, I get the version displayed just fine.
[22:01] <Delta706> TJ: the bug is that the microphone is not detected after boot
[22:02] <xcyclist> Oh, yes I know it is optional.
[22:02] <xcyclist> The thing is the install doesn't work  in this specific way, so unless I am supposed to know something to complete the install, apt-get install rbenv seems to yield a broken rbenv.
[22:03] <ikonia> xcyclist: why do you keep saying the install is not complete
[22:03] <Radon_3> dearest people, my usb3s don't work, and I can't read my flash stick
[22:03] <xcyclist> rbenv -v does not work when I install apt-get install rbenv.
[22:03] <TJ-> Delta706: Have you gone through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ?
[22:03] <eeee> iszak: if you want to run the program from everywhere, you can put it in ~/bin , or add where ever you put it to your PATH variable
[22:03] <xcyclist> Therefore that install seems to be broken or incomplete.
[22:03] <iszak> eeee: yes i know
[22:03] <xcyclist> When I install with git it works.
[22:04] <ikonia> xcyclist: the version string failing does not mean it's broken
[22:04] <Delta706> TJ: I have read the page but it really only says "report a bug"
[22:04] <xcyclist> What does it mean?
[22:04] <xcyclist> The failure makes it look broken.
[22:04] <ikonia> xcyclist: do "sudo rbenv -v" and put the output in a pastebin please.
[22:05] <xcyclist> Ok.
[22:05] <simon``> hi. I'm currently starting my virtual Windows using `sudo virtualbox --fullscreen --startvm "Windows 7" &` but I'd like to have a button in my menu on the right... how do I get that?
[22:05] <Radon_3> help? please?
[22:06] <iceroot> simon``: dont start virtualbox as root
[22:06] <TJ-> xcyclist: did you read and follow "man 1 rbenv" ?
[22:07] <iceroot> simon``: create a launcher in your menu and put in the commands you want to use, then you will have your button, or create a script and put in the command and execute that script
[22:07] <simon``> iceroot: the reason I do that is because I get an error message asking me to change a setting in my BIOS.
[22:07] <TJ-> Delta706: You checked the microphone isn't muted? Then do that - report a bug so bug triagers and developers know about it
[22:07] <Radon_3> guys?
[22:07] <simon``> iceroot: I've created a script. I'll create a launcher for the script.
[22:07] <simon``> iceroot: how do I create a launcher?
[22:07] <ikonia> Radon_3: please be patient
[22:07] <Radon_3> ok
[22:07] <ikonia> Radon_3: you can see other people are getting help so just saying "help me help me help me" is pretty rude
[22:08] <Radon_3> alright i will w8
[22:08] <xcyclist> That did it.  Thank you.
[22:08] <Delta706> TJ: is it possible that the bug people will tell me a workround?
[22:09] <TJ-> Delta706: Until the exact details are know, no-one can say.
[22:09] <blackangelpr> Radon_3, i was looking for some other post of your problems most of them result in damage cables  are you plugging drives directly to your usb3 on the computer?
[22:09] <eeee> simon``: /usr/share/applications , make a .desktop file
[22:09] <Radon_3> blackangelpr: yes, no cables
[22:10] <iszak> So if not /opt/ where should I put these files?
[22:10] <blackangelpr> Radon_3, can you help us by doing             lsusb
[22:10] <blackangelpr> Radon_3, to see if your machine detect them
[22:11] <simon``> eeee: thanks.
[22:11] <blackangelpr> Radon_3, lsusb -v | grep -i bcdusb
[22:12] <Delta706> TJ: the mute button is only available if the device is detected
[22:12] <Delta706> TJ: my problem is that it is not detected
[22:12] <Radon_3> blackangelpr: yes when I run "sudo lsusb" a list is shown on the screen telling me I have four usb buses
[22:13] <blackangelpr> Radon_3, ok
[22:13] <Radon_3> Intel corp something... (I can't paste cause it is on my unconnected laptop, terribly sorry about that)
[22:14] <TJ-> Radon_3: Can you show us "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"  ?
[22:14] <cimmm> hopefully a quick q: installing 14.04.1 x64 for dual-boot with win8.1 (uefi, no secureboot). Installing to sdb2, as sda1=win8 recovery tools, sda2=win8 install, sdb1=win8 programs,etc. does my bootloader go to sda ?
[22:14] <TJ-> Radon_3: OK, no network - can you copy that file to a network-connected PC and pastebin it?
[22:15] <TJ-> cimmm: If installing in UEFI mode grub will install itself to the EFI system partition, which is usually sda1
[22:16] <Nothing_Much> Question: Does a wifi range extender cause problems with Ubuntu and Linux in general?
[22:16] <ikonia> Nothing_Much: shouldn't do
[22:16] <TJ-> cimmm: To install in UEFI mode you must ensure the system firmware's boot manager starts the Live/Installer device in UEFI mode, not CSM (legacy)
[22:16] <Nothing_Much> ikonia: Do you have a wifi range extender that doesn't drop all the time?
[22:16] <ikonia> Nothing_Much: no, I have high end wifi gear that has excellent range and stability, so I've had no need for extenders
[22:17] <blackangelpr> Nothing_Much, need to give more info did you mean after you turn that on you cant connect or what? if so you might configure the wifi range extender ip wrong
[22:17] <blz> Is there a recommended tiling window manager for a someone who's familiar with ubuntu/unix (+7 years) but has never used a TWM before?
[22:18] <Nothing_Much> blackangelpr: I connect to it, but the problem is that it drops more frequently than my previous connection that only has my router that still drops
[22:18] <cimmm> yeah i booted usb into uefi no issue, just curious where bootloader goes
[22:18] <Radon_3> TJ-: I don't think I can cause I can't copy it on my flash usb stick,
[22:18] <Radon_3> TJ-: Is there anything I can look up for you in that file?
[22:18] <ikonia> Nothing_Much: it's possible your signal is fighting between the extender and the router
[22:18] <TJ-> Nothing_Much: Is the device using WDS or some proprietary range-extension method?
[22:18] <ikonia> Nothing_Much: there are specific ways to set it up, maybe worth having a read
[22:19] <Nothing_Much> TJ-: WDS?
[22:19] <TJ-> Radon_3: No, the entire file is necessary to see the context
[22:19] <TJ-> Nothing_Much: Wireless Distribution System
[22:20] <simon``> http://pastie.org/9527922 - shouldn't this work? running the executable in a shell works, but clicking the link through Ubuntu's graphical interface doesn't do anything.
[22:20] <blackangelpr> Nothing_Much,  did you connect the wifi extenter by cat5 = lan cable ? if you had problems getting the signal with your laptop if you did not do that it might drop since its wifi as well :P
[22:20] <Nothing_Much> blackangelpr: nope, it was through the wifi itself
[22:21] <Nothing_Much> but the extender doesn't have a problem taking over my ssid for the router
[22:21] <blackangelpr> hum..
[22:21] <Nothing_Much> and I'm on a desktop
[22:21] <Nothing_Much> so I can't move this computer
[22:21] <Nothing_Much> closer
[22:21] <TJ-> Nothing_Much: Problems most likely are caused by collisions with other devices transmitting in the same frequency band
[22:21] <simon``> ah, executable permissions.
[22:21] <Nothing_Much> it might be the microwave
[22:22] <Nothing_Much> that's in between my room and the extender
[22:22] <Nothing_Much> however..
[22:22] <Nothing_Much> it might be a Linux problem
[22:22] <blackangelpr> here is a channel chart so you can play with them if you have microwave near any wifi might cause problems etc etc etc  http://blogs.aerohive.com/blog/the-wireless-lan-training-blog/wifi-back-to-basics-24-ghz-channel-planning
[22:22] <Nothing_Much> since my brother has Windows and his wifi connection is fine
[22:22] <blackangelpr> oh
[22:22] <Nothing_Much> my mother's laptop is also the closest to the extender
[22:23] <Nothing_Much> and it drops sometimes
[22:23] <Nothing_Much> she's on Kubuntu 14.04 and I'm on Ubuntu 14.04
[22:23] <Nothing_Much> The extender is 802.11ac connected to an 802.11n router though
[22:26] <TJ-> Nothing_Much: That makes no sense; those are 2 totally separate frequency bands; you sure you don't mean 802.11an router (5 GHz band) ?
[22:26] <Nothing_Much> It's 802.11ac
[22:26] <blackangelpr> TJ-, until i know i guess what happend its the ac extender downgrade to n if not its impossible to connect
[22:27] <TJ-> Nothing4You: if one device is 'ac' and the other 'an' my guess would be that the 'ac' is trying to use wide-channels and the 'an' isn't
[22:27] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, it uses 802.11n since that's what my router is capable of
[22:27] <blackangelpr> bingo TJ-
[22:27] <TJ-> Nothing4You: 802.11n is in the 2.4GHz band; 802.11ac is in the 5GHz band
[22:27] <blackangelpr> if that happend need to disable the ac permanently from extender
[22:27] <TJ-> Grrr, tab completion!
[22:28] <TJ-> Nothing_Much:  802.11n is in the 2.4GHz band; 802.11ac is in the 5GHz band
[22:28] <TJ-> Nothing_Much:  ^^^ blackangelpr
[22:29] <klys> I booted mavericks and it stopped right-clicking on the new #mozilla
[22:29] <blackangelpr> ^^
[22:29] <Nothing_Much> brb, gonna restart
[22:30] <blackangelpr> i mean if he disable permanently the ac on the extender then any laptop that have ac would not trigger the change on band so all other n or below will drop :P
[22:31] <blackangelpr> nice chat see you later guys night shift call me XD
[22:31] <blackangelpr> peace
[22:31] <Radon_3> guys, how can I set the grub loader to work in vga? cause I have setup my laptop to work in multiboot state and now when I choose windows 7 boot loader from the grub menu all I get is a purple screen and windows login sound heard in the background
[22:32] <klys> just rewrite the menuconfig from a script and boot it with grub4dos
[22:32] <Radon_3> klys: how do Ido that?
[22:33] <klys> set it up to boot dos, boot autoexec.bat to grub4dos and script you a menu, and rewrite the menu.lst in c:\sys\grub
[22:34] <Radon_3> klys: again I don't understand what to run or do
[22:34] <TJ-> Radon_3: The advice from klys is bogus; ignore it
[22:34] <klys> ask everyone else unless there is a question about "script you a menu."
[22:35] <TJ-> klys: Please don't give bogus suggestions; that will only confuse novice users
[22:35] <Radon_3> TJ-: ok
[22:35] <Radon_3> I'm pretty novice
[22:35] <TJ-> Radon_3: You said that Windows was started from the GRUB menu?
[22:35] <Radon_3> a noob if you will
[22:36] <CodeGosu> i have usb drive appear as /mnt/usb-WD_Elements_rly_lot_of_numbers_here_-0:0-part1, is there any way i can make it apear as /mnt/h ?
[22:36] <Radon_3> TJ-: yes, but all I see is a purple screen, and I don't see the old windows loading logo and the login screen
[22:37] <rogier> Hello. I have a strange problem. Just tried to boot my ubuntu computer. It all seems to go normal until i login. There is just nothing! The mouse arrow is there and I can move it. The background is not the normal one and there is no icons, menu bar or anything anymore. When i login as guest everything is normal again. I have no idea where to start?
[22:37] <TJ-> CodeGosu: That'll be the GPT partition ID or UUID I'd guess. Give the file-system a proper label and it ought to be mounted using that
[22:38] <TJ-> Radon_3: Is the system booting in EFI mode, or BIOS?
[22:38] <Radon_3> TJ-: BIOS
[22:39] <Radon_3> I couldn't get the EFI to work, so i went with bios
[22:40] <TJ-> Radon_3: OK, so GRUB will be "chainload"ing the Windows boot loader. If you're hearing the Windows log-in sound it would suggest that Windows has somehow got its video driver in a mess. I'd try starting Windows in "Safe" mode, which needs, I think, for you to press F8 as soon as Windows is started after GRUB
[22:40] <TJ-> Radon_3: Was Windows installed and working in EFI mode previously, or has it always used BIOS mode?
[22:41] <Radon_3> TJ-: BIOS
[22:41] <ObrienDave> TJ-, Radon_3, yes, F8 at boot will get you to a menu for safe mode
[22:41] <TJ-> Radon_3: OK, so my advice holds. Try for a Safe Mode Windows start-up and repair the video drivers
[22:41] <Radon_3> TJ-: Also f8 didn't work either, it just gave me a purple screen with some strange lines in it
[22:42] <eeee> Radon_3: which laptop are you using?
[22:42] <TJ-> Radon_3: That sounds strange. Almost as if GRUB is in graphics mode with a strange video resolution, so when it hands over to Windows, the Windows output is corrupted, but that doesn't make sense either, since when the Windows video driver loads it'll take over the GPU and set the mode correctly
[22:43] <subcool> here is something stupid. I am in a folder for which i have to install drivers. The direections say.... "./install.sh" to install. So i do "sudo ./install.sh" - response is "command not found" - ???? TJ
[22:43] <eeee> subcool: sudo sh install.sh
[22:43] <TJ-> subcool: You forgot to make "install.sh" exectuable... see eeee  ^^^^^ suggestion
[22:44] <subcool> TJ- the instructions said only to do that if if kernal has issues. i was thinking the same thing.
[22:46] <Nothing_Much> Hello again
[22:46] <Nothing_Much> I think that hardware encryption think might've solved it
[22:46] <Radon_3> TJ-: Any suggestions then?
[22:46] <Radon_3> cause that seems to be the exact case
[22:46] <Noiro> Is there a utility to restore my network settings to default? This is rediculous and an update broke everything relating to my DNS
[22:47] <Noiro> I literally can't connect to most anything on this computer and it was fine before I rebooted due to updates
[22:49] <Radon_3> is there a command like "lsusb" that would list the name of all of my hardware stuff?
[22:49] <TJ-> Radon_3: I cannot think that GRUB can cause Windows to use an incorrect video mode. Has the GPU been changed, or does the system have 2 GPUs by different manufacturers?
[22:49] <rysiekpl> ohai
[22:50] <TJ-> Radon_3: "lshw"
[22:50] <Noiro> I can't seem to find the ubuntu program that handles resolv.conf, in there, it says something else is congrolling it. glibc resolver or resolvconf?
[22:50] <Noiro> Where can I find this?
[22:50] <TJ-> Noiro: "man resolvconf"
[22:52] <cynicallemon> Noiro: usually settings kept in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[22:52] <rysiekpl> is it possible that upon mount -o remount,rw,<other_options>, busybox within intird.lz on a live-usb system ignores all <other_options>?
[22:54] <Radon_3> lshw was awesome TJ- , do we have something that is more complete than lshw or it is alread as complete as it gets?
[22:55] <Noiro> TJ-, once I add nameservers to dhcp.conf, how do I refresh settings so it actually USES them?
[22:55] <Noiro> It was setting some weird 75.75.75.75 as a DNS server which is...wha?!
[22:55] <TJ-> Noiro: IPS DNS
[22:56] <cynicallemon> Noiro: welcome to automation
[22:56] <TJ-> Noiro: s/IPS/ISP/
[22:56] <OerHeks> lshw lspci lsusb lscpu dmidecode
[22:56] <Noiro> that's NOT my ISP's dns
[22:56] <TJ-> Noiro: Yes it is
[22:56] <TJ-> Noiro: "ig +short -x 75.75.75.75" => "cdns01.comcast.net."
[22:57] <Noiro> Then why is my connection being so finicky? I'm literally dropping off every other second
[22:57] <TJ-> Noiro: grrr, sticky keyboard! "dig +short -x 75.75.75.75" => "cdns01.comcast.net."
[22:57] <Noiro> Just today can I actually stay in IRC channels without dropping out
[22:57] <OerHeks>  75.75.75.75 is a valid comcast dns .. reset your router will help some obscure issues
[22:57] <TJ-> Noiro: DNS has nothing to do with established connections dropping
[22:57] <Radon_3> TJ-: thank you, by the way I just formatted the whole drive and I am going to install windows and ubuntu from the beginning
[22:58] <Noiro> TJ, it does if it stops being able to resolve the host for some reason
[22:58] <TJ-> Radon_3: Go for UEFI mode installs if you can; saves a lot of multiboot issues :)
[22:58] <Radon_3> TJ-: thanks for the heads up, that I will do,
[22:58] <TJ-> Noiro: No, you're talking about "new" connections. I said DNS won't affect *established* connections
[22:59] <TJ-> Radon_3: In case it helps understand what is going on take a look at https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[23:00] <Noiro> TJ-, a few days ago, my computer randomly couldn't resolve the name to certain places or the data would never arrive/get there. now it happens less but sometimes connections randomly drop and there's hardly any throughput on my minecraft server
[23:00] <TJ-> Noiro: Have you checked the logs ("/var/log/syslog", "/var/log/kern.log") ?
[23:02] <Radon_3> TJ-: I know this is not the right place probably, and you have lready been more than kind to me, but do you think my lenovo B50-70 has this UEFI thingy?and how can I get it to work both for windows and ubuntu?
[23:03] <Noiro> TJ- what am I looking for?
[23:04] <TJ-> Radon_3: UEFI integrates a boot-manager into the firmware, so each OS simply registers itself with the firmware... it gets away from the old BIOS issues of each OS replacing the MBR boot-strap code with its own, and needing GRUB to boot Windows on a multi-OS system
[23:04] <Noiro> TJ- I can barely load Youtube
[23:04] <Noiro> as in, it's not loading at all
[23:05] <TJ-> Noiro: ha! something abnormal around the times the failures occur. Use the timestamps to help you pinpoint the messages to look at more carefully. Things like "denied" "timeout" "failed" etc, or a service apparently reconnecting for no reason
[23:05] <TJ-> Noiro: Is this using Wireless or Wired connection?
[23:05] <Noiro> Wired
[23:06] <Noiro> I'm getting this: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[23:07] <TJ-> Noiro: See http://askubuntu.com/questions/453072/what-is-nss-myhostname-and-why-is-it-not-installable
[23:08] <Hypnoz> I can't ssh to "server1.prod" since yesterday, anything ".prod" resolves 127.0.53.53
[23:08] <Hypnoz> I think maybe the .prod domain came online and my local dns doesn't know how to deal with that
[23:08] <TJ-> Noiro: That is probably bug 1162475
[23:09] <Noiro> TJ-: how do I fix it? Or does installing it fix it?
[23:09] <moajito> hello
[23:09] <ben_g> Hi
[23:10] <TJ-> Noiro: From the bug, check that "/etc/hosts" is correctly configured with the hostname you expect
[23:10] <Noiro> hosts is just the hosts file. There's a couple 127.0.0.1 redirects, but that's it
[23:10] <Noiro> And some ipv6 stuff
[23:10] <ben_g> I'm trying to create a script that would connect to an FTP server, compare the files on that server with the files in an other server, and then sync all changed files and download new files
[23:11] <ben_g> I have the FTP server bookmarked in the 'explorer'. how can I open that in the command line?
[23:11] <TJ-> Noiro: OK, if the correct hostname is given there for 127.0.1.1 then that warning probably has no bearing on your issue
[23:12] <Noiro> >.< I just want this to stop happening and for me to surf the internet normally again
[23:12] <TJ-> ben_g: sounds like you need a hybrid of "wget -m ..."
[23:13] <TJ-> Noiro: when did it happen last?
[23:13] <ben_g> TJ-: could you give me an example or a link to easy to understand documentation?
[23:13] <Noiro> Started a couple days ago. Ubuntu's been updating a lot over the last couple of weeks, I never restarted, thunderstorm took me out last night and coming on it went from a couple issues to LOTs of issues
[23:14] <TJ-> ben_g: "man wget" ... what you want to do (server <> server via local PC) is not simple, you'll probably need to do server1 > local PC > server 2
[23:14] <TJ-> Noiro: Try "pastebinit < <(tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog) "
[23:14] <Noiro> Before, there were a couple IRC networks that i couldn't connect to that others could, then after restart HALF of them i couldn't connect to
[23:15] <ben_g> I want to only backup files from a server (that I can acess trough FTP) on my computer. They don't have to be sent to an other server
[23:15] <Noiro> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8254293/
[23:15] <TJ-> Noiro: I'm wondering if your ISP is being affected by the BGP 512K max table entries problem that began a few weeks ago
[23:16] <ben_g> and if downloading only the changed files is hard, then I don't mind if it downloads the entire folder
[23:16] <TJ-> ben_g: Then "wget -m ..." (mirror) is your friend
[23:17] <TJ-> Noiro: line 1872
[23:18] <d3ad7rack> hi all, I'm in single user mode using Kali linux and issued the ping command to make sure I was connected, but forgot to limit the amount of pings. Now I've got a contant stream of pings going out and CTRL+c isn't working, any ideas?
[23:18] <Noiro> TJ-: what's that mean?
[23:18] <ben_g> TJ-: how do I use that with FTP that requires login? From what I find on google, it basically downloads what your browser would show
[23:19] <TJ-> Noiro: Then at line 1945 dnsmasq appears and is configured. I'll now work back to much earlier in the log file
[23:19] <OerHeks> kali in your hands is a deadly weapon.. reboot :-D
[23:20] <d3ad7rack> true, but need it for the cert I'm going for lol
[23:20] <TJ-> ben_g: "man wget" then "/FTP Options"
[23:20] <OerHeks> sorry, joking, kali is not supported here, d3ad7rack
[23:20] <OerHeks> man ping?
[23:20] <d3ad7rack> k, ty OerHeks :)
[23:20] <TJ-> d3ad7rack: Ctrl+Z ?
[23:20] <OerHeks> they love such answers, really, stick to a manual
[23:20] <d3ad7rack> yeah, tried that too and still keeps pinging
[23:21] <d3ad7rack> yep, I know I forgot to put on the -t(pings requests) on the end, and now I'm paying for it lol
[23:22] <c2h6o> hey guys, any pointers on setting up palm detection for touchpads?
[23:22] <TJ-> d3ad7rack: pull the net cable so the ping fails
[23:23] <d3ad7rack> TJ- will try that, ty for the suggestion
[23:24] <TJ-> Noiro: I suspect your issue is that IPv6 is enabled and sometimes DNS is returning an AAAA record so the PC tries to route over IPv6 and take some time to fall back to doing an IPv4 lookup (A)
[23:24] <d3ad7rack> TJ- dang, nope just kept trying to ping out lol oh well, restart I will, ty for the input TJ- :)
[23:24] <Noiro> TJ-: how do I disable IPv6 for now? I thought we were gradually moving over to that
[23:25] <benbro> how can I check which package gives me v4l2compat.so?
[23:25] <kostkon> !find v4l2compat.so
[23:26] <benbro> kostkon: thanks
[23:26] <ben_g> TJ-: I think it's working, thanks
[23:26] <somaunn> hello guys
[23:26] <somaunn> what is gen.xyz
[23:27] <Noiro> In the Unity networking section I can no longer even go to 'edit connection'
[23:28] <TJ-> Noiro: Check 2/var/log/kern.log" for indications of disk I/O errors
[23:32] <Noiro> TJ-, I keep seeing this one repeated about 7 times: 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is a 16550A
[23:34] <TJ-> Noiro: That is the UART serial port being detected
[23:34] <Noiro> I did a ctr-F and that's the only i/o I can see
[23:36] <TJ-> Noiro: OK, so it appears you can rule out disk errors. The randomness of some of the things you've reported makes me wonder if the RAM modules might be going flakey. It'd be worth doing a memtest to rule that out
[23:36] <ObrienDave> Noiro, that's only serial I/O. one of several types of I/O in a system
[23:37] <Noiro> The machien is only ~ 2 years old and I got 8 more GB about a year ago. Do you think that would be the cause?
[23:37] <uRock> what would be the best format for me to record video if I planned to add music to it in openshot?
[23:37] <TJ-> ObrienDave: We were looking for possible disk I/O errors, but looks like that side of things is OK
[23:38] <ObrienDave> agrees
[23:38] <Noiro>  / is stored on a SSD, /home on an HDD
[23:38] <TJ-> Noiro: RAM can fail at any time, often due to vibration. Test it. If memtest shows any errors try re-seating the modules firmly (remove, reinsert) so any physical bond issues are exercised.
[23:39] <Noiro> I mean, right now, I probably can't load YT pages or most pages effectively
[23:40] <TJ-> Noiro: The problem with silently failing RAM modules is maybe only a few bits become 'sticky', but if they are in an area of memory the kernel uses for disk buffers, then that error can then get saved to disk causing almost undetectable corruption, which if in an executable library or program, could cause strange hard-to-diagnose errors.
[23:41] <TJ-> Noiro: So the best procedure to follow is to verify the most serious, easy-to-test possibilities first, then if they all pass OK, look at the more complicated potential causes
[23:41] <usr13> TJ-: IMO; Memtest is not perfect and may take a long time to actually find errors.
[23:42] <Noiro> brb
[23:42] <TJ-> usr13: But it will find them; nothing else will unless the system has ECC modules, which most consumer kit doesn't
[23:43] <usr13> TJ-: Ok.  Just thought it might be note-wrothy. Some get impatient and do not let it run for several passes.
[23:43] <usr13> ...some will trun it off before one pass is done...
[23:44] <TJ-> usr13: I know! But I've already spent almost an hour diagnosing and given various other suggestions. I'd actually bet on the IPv6 issue + inaccurate/conflated issue reports, but without hard evidence of the issues not much more one can do
[23:45] <c2h6o> TJ-, how can I find the model of my touchpad?
[23:46] <Kick2TheFace> Good evening
[23:46] <ObrienDave> Kick2TheFace, greetings & welcome
[23:46] <usr13> I know.  Sometimes the process of elimination is the best.
[23:46] <Kick2TheFace> thank you
[23:46] <usr13> c2h6o: Should be on the bottom.
[23:47] <usr13> TJ-: Well, maybe not the best but the only...
[23:48] <TJ-> c2h6o: Try "cat /sys/class/input/mouse*/device/name"
[23:48] <c2h6o> sweet thanks
[23:53] <c2h6o> TJ-, the touchpad doesn't seem to be in the list D;
[23:54] <TJ-> c2h6o: sometimes it will be using a mouse driver, such as MS IntelliMouse Explorer
[23:55] <TJ-> c2h6o: a lot of touchpads 'emulate' the protocol of a basic pointing device and so when the driver tries to interrogate them, picks the device they appear to be