Unit193 | So, the saucy docs branch seems to still be getting translations... | 00:01 |
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ali1234 | dbl_click_time seems unused | 00:06 |
ali1234 | it isn't in here http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/tree/defaults/defaults | 00:08 |
ali1234 | xfce bug 6334 | 00:17 |
ubottu | xfce bug 6334 in General "[xfce]Double click title bar actions use different speed than text selection" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6334 | 00:17 |
ali1234 | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=7d94a9c54ec7cf17b063484846250c7a97866853 | 00:19 |
ali1234 | also http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/log/?qt=grep&q=6334 | 00:19 |
ali1234 | bluesabre: ^ | 00:20 |
ali1234 | "dbl_click_time" no longer appears in xfwm4 source | 00:20 |
ali1234 | it's coming from the xubuntu defaults | 00:21 |
bluesabre | got it, thanks ali1234... I'll drop that key from our settings | 00:23 |
Unit193 | knome: Should I renew for xubuntu-docs? | 05:24 |
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elfy | another day another breakage - lightdm this time | 06:26 |
Unit193 | Uh oh, better not restart then. :/ | 06:46 |
Unit193 | - Rework logind code that gets session ID. The previous method was racy | 06:49 |
Unit193 | and a change in lightdm 1.11.7 led to a lockup when this race occurred. | 06:49 |
Unit193 | (LP: #1364725) | 06:49 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1364725 in lightdm (Ubuntu Trusty) "logind session ID not used due to race condition" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364725 | 06:49 |
Unit193 | elfy: Better now? | 06:53 |
elfy | ochosi bluesabre - you been fiddling with desktop settings again? | 06:53 |
Unit193 | "Reduce number of workspaces to 1"? | 06:53 |
elfy | one workspace and try setting seperate wallpaper when you've got desktops back to a sane default | 06:54 |
elfy | making sure that you set it so you want different wallpaper - and then try and move the dialogue to the next desktop | 06:54 |
Unit193 | Bleh, the "wrap desktops" thing, that one hit me (other one didn't, alerady had messed with the number.) | 06:55 |
* Unit193 goes to fix. | 06:55 | |
Unit193 | Hrm. | 06:56 |
elfy | so if you're going to set desktops to 1 - something needs to be done so people can easily reset that and the wrap so other things work as expected | 06:57 |
Unit193 | Yep, found it. | 06:58 |
elfy | if random decisions are just going to be made in here by two people then I'm in the wrong place | 06:58 |
Unit193 | Mmm, it is getting tedious. | 06:59 |
elfy | well I've certainly had enough of it all | 06:59 |
elfy | feels like it's 'have some discussions in *other* channel' have a quick chat in here and jfdi | 07:01 |
elfy | Unit193: and no - not better - in the other install - everything but lightdm updated and nvidia reinstalled now it's got a working kernel/nvidia pair :) | 07:03 |
Unit193 | Hrm, OK. I just got a lightdm update that looked like it might do it. | 07:03 |
elfy | wasn't a replacement from main server 10 minutes ago | 07:04 |
Unit193 | I wasn't on .8 yet, am now. | 07:04 |
elfy | I was - I'm on .7 in this install ;) | 07:04 |
Unit193 | So back to "don't reboot", got it. | 07:05 |
elfy | yep | 07:05 |
elfy | you *can* get in via tty1 and startx - but it's all wrong, get blue window title bars for a start | 07:06 |
Unit193 | Right, you need to set a few vars to get it right. | 07:06 |
elfy | or expect upgrades not to break things :p | 07:06 |
Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/ecrRO2Xm5SdFUjnlkaeN/ is what I had from so long ago. | 07:06 |
elfy | thanks Unit193 | 07:07 |
Unit193 | No idea if it still works, but that's my .xinitrc | 07:08 |
elfy | :) | 07:08 |
elfy | booting the broken one again to report bug | 07:11 |
Unit193 | Ah, typo there, DEFAULTS_PATH | 07:11 |
elfy | back in a few | 07:11 |
elfy | that made no difference Unit193 - reported for better or worse bug 1365336 | 07:27 |
ubottu | bug 1365336 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Lightdm update=No desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365336 | 07:27 |
ochosi | elfy: monring | 08:13 |
ochosi | morning | 08:13 |
ochosi | there was a discussion about it, and i didn't feel that changing these settings warranted a big discussion as it is a consequence of earlier decisions (namely removing workspace-switcher from the panel, disabling scrolling on desktop to switch workspaces) | 08:14 |
ochosi | also, there was no discussion about it on any other channel | 08:14 |
ochosi | and it wasn't just two people | 08:14 |
ochosi | just to correct you there :) | 08:14 |
ochosi | if you disagree with the decision, let's discuss it. rants really don't help anyone | 08:15 |
elfy | the decision to change things have ramifications - changing default wrap - makes the change to wallpaper pointless | 08:17 |
ochosi | change to wallpaper? | 08:22 |
elfy | the desktop settings - set wallpaper different on workspaces - try moving the dialogue now - when you've added a desktop | 08:23 |
ochosi | elfy: ^ | 08:23 |
ochosi | ah | 08:23 |
ochosi | is there a bug or are you just pointing out that you can't set different wallpapers for workspaces with only one workspace? | 08:23 |
elfy | any idea about how many people actually only use 1 desktop? | 08:24 |
ochosi | no, but we didn't base the decision on quantitative analysis | 08:24 |
elfy | ochosi: the first thing I did was set to 2 desktops | 08:24 |
elfy | then as I got hit by a lightdm bug - I booted the other one - managed to add nvidia - now that bug is fixed - then I found you're removed wrap when I tried to move the dialogue to set wallpapers | 08:25 |
ochosi | right | 08:26 |
elfy | so we say Move this dialogue - but it's impossible to do without resetting a bunch of things | 08:27 |
ochosi | in that case that's a clear bug in xfdesktop, it shouldn't show that infobar if workspaces=1 | 08:27 |
elfy | or workspaces shouldn't =1 | 08:27 |
ochosi | no, that's not really the point | 08:28 |
elfy | it is for me | 08:28 |
ochosi | what you're describing is a misleading infobar | 08:28 |
ochosi | which can easily be hidden | 08:28 |
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ochosi | sry, gotta go, bbl | 08:34 |
Noskcaj | bluesabre, Does the 4.12 ppa still need the 4.10 one? ANd should the description still be "these are pre-release versions, which may contain annoying bugs and/or crash. Use them at your own risk.", since all the packages i pushed are in the official archives | 08:38 |
Noskcaj | And we use "staging" for the stuff that is not recommended for normal use | 08:42 |
elfy | ochosi: bug 1365382 and xfce 11134 | 08:54 |
ubottu | bug 1365382 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Infobar in desktop settings alludes to impossible scenario" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365382 | 08:54 |
ubottu | xfce bug 11134 in General "Desktop Settings Infobar gives move option when unavailable" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11134 | 08:55 |
brainwash | interesting that no one has noticed (and reported) this before | 08:58 |
brainwash | btw we've lost a customer | 08:58 |
brainwash | read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1271169/comments/4 | 08:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1271169 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) " Let Xubuntu users disable/enable hibernation from Xfce Power Manager" [Wishlist,Invalid] | 08:58 |
ali1234 | gnome-session-fallback doesn't have 5 years of support | 09:25 |
ali1234 | lol | 09:25 |
ali1234 | some people... | 09:25 |
brainwash | he closed his report at least :) | 09:25 |
ali1234 | yeah he loves closing bugs, i think that's all he does | 09:26 |
slickymasterWork | Unit193: you have doubts?! Of course you must renew (not should)!!! | 09:43 |
slickymasterWork | Unit193, knome, since Saucy is EOL, can't we just close the lp:xubuntu-docs/saucy branch? | 09:46 |
bluesabre | elfy: got it, re-enable workspace drag. As I said before, I want to discuss all the default settings with everyone. Created this pad, where we can have a quick overview: http://pad.ubuntu.com/diA31J1P9e | 10:10 |
bluesabre | if anybody has any questions, or wants to change or revert, please, let's discuss | 10:10 |
Noskcaj | bluesabre, That's all the xfce stuff done for trusty backport ppa (and your packages) | 10:11 |
bluesabre | working on a larger google doc that shows xfce, 14.04, and 14.10 defaults: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kU58YbatuIjM9OF7DDjajw-QzTVNBDIoKg9ZiV2cPDE/edit?usp=sharing | 10:11 |
bluesabre | Noskcaj: thanks, I moved several xfce packages to the 4.12 ppa | 10:12 |
bluesabre | I'll update the description like you indicatored | 10:12 |
Noskcaj | cool | 10:12 |
bluesabre | *indicated | 10:12 |
Noskcaj | SHould i also prep our non-xfce stuff? e.g. gnome-mines, abiword, etc. | 10:13 |
Noskcaj | g'night | 10:14 |
slickymasterWork | knome, there's a typo in one of the strings we wrote for including the pkexec policy files in favor of gksu in the documentation | 10:14 |
slickymasterWork | knome: the string in question is "Please note that for an application to run successfully with <application>pkexec</application>, it will need to ship a pkexec policy file. All default applications in Xubuntu that might need to be ran with adminstrative rights come with pkexec policy files." | 10:15 |
slickymasterWork | it has to be 'administrative' not adminstrative | 10:16 |
slickymasterWork | since now I'm not able to push it, I'll do it tonight at home, if you haven't done it yet | 10:17 |
bluesabre | elfy: Re-enabled wrap workspaces on window drag, changes committed to bzr, not yet uploaded to ubuntu | 10:23 |
bluesabre | let me know if we need to change something else | 10:23 |
ochosi | hey bluesabre | 10:23 |
bluesabre | and please, add comments to the pad if you disagree with any setting | 10:23 |
bluesabre | hey ochosi | 10:24 |
ochosi | fwiw, wrapping workspaces also breaks the tiling feature of xfwm4 for left/right | 10:26 |
bluesabre | yeah, but that doesn't matter if only one workspace is used | 10:27 |
ochosi | haven't tested that yet | 10:27 |
bluesabre | that's the setting I usually have, 1 workspace, fun with tiling | 10:27 |
Unit193 | bluesabre: Exactly, it's just annoying to people adding more. | 10:27 |
ochosi | bluesabre: it does break it here for me | 10:28 |
bluesabre | Unit193: right, so fixed in the next release | 10:28 |
Unit193 | Yep, so I saw. | 10:28 |
ochosi | ah wait | 10:28 |
ochosi | it doesn't :) | 10:28 |
bluesabre | Unit193: any comment on the defaults? | 10:28 |
ochosi | bluesabre: do you still have that bug with the greeter staying black after a while? | 10:29 |
bluesabre | ochosi: haven't tested lately | 10:29 |
bluesabre | been busy with other things | 10:29 |
Unit193 | bluesabre: 1. Only I still disagree with xfwm workspace = 1. 2. There's also the scroll on titlebar change to add, no? 3. The xfce4-panel isn't complete is it? Doesn't have where the indicators fit for example. Rest of the stuff on there I'm generally indifferent to. | 10:31 |
Unit193 | I personally use: separator (expands), xfpm, indicator, systray | 10:32 |
bluesabre | scroll on titlebar was added for 14.04 | 10:32 |
Unit193 | I see. | 10:32 |
bluesabre | but I'll put that in there | 10:32 |
Unit193 | Eh, it's not a utopic change, couldn't remember for sure when it was. | 10:32 |
bluesabre | good catch on the indicators | 10:33 |
bluesabre | for the number of workspaces, I'd be fine with restoring as well if most of the team thinks it would be best to leave as is... I want to have settings we all agree on | 10:36 |
Unit193 | Well, we won't have that part for sure, but still. :P | 10:37 |
ochosi | i'm really a fan of trying new settings in 14.10 | 10:38 |
ochosi | gathering feedback and then re-evaluating them for 15.04 | 10:38 |
ochosi | i think the lts+1 release is ideal for that | 10:38 |
ochosi | (less people think about upgrading immediately) | 10:39 |
knome | slickymasterWork, re: saucy branch, yes | 10:39 |
slickymasterWork | morning knome | 10:40 |
slickymasterWork | yeah, it would be the sane thing to do | 10:40 |
slickymasterWork | who does it? | 10:40 |
knome | i can do that if i still have the access for that | 10:41 |
knome | and remember how it's done... | 10:41 |
slickymasterWork | ok, did you saw what I said re our changes to the pkexec strings in the -docs? | 10:42 |
knome | done. | 10:42 |
slickymasterWork | lol | 10:42 |
knome | i did | 10:42 |
bluesabre | won't be around for most of the day again today | 10:42 |
bluesabre | so... | 10:42 |
slickymasterWork | thanks for that knome | 10:42 |
knome | i guess i could fix the string soon as well | 10:43 |
knome | which file was it? | 10:43 |
slickymasterWork | I can do it tonight if you're swapped with your real 'work' | 10:43 |
knome | i am, but... that happens, and clients can wait! ;) | 10:43 |
bluesabre | !team | please see the xubuntu-default-settings etherpad and discuss settings... what's missing, what you think should change: http://pad.ubuntu.com/diA31J1P9e | 10:43 |
slickymasterWork | don't remember it now | 10:43 |
bluesabre | (that never works for me) | 10:44 |
knome | ok, i'll grep for it | 10:44 |
knome | bluesabre, :D | 10:44 |
slickymasterWork | is not that urgent that it can't wait a few hours and I'll do it tonight | 10:44 |
knome | !team | ^ | 10:44 |
ubottu | ^: bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 10:44 |
knome | bluesabre, weird. | 10:45 |
slickymasterWork | the bot doesn't likes bluesabre | 10:45 |
bluesabre | the bot only listens to knome D: | 10:45 |
slickymasterWork | ;) | 10:45 |
knome | heh | 10:45 |
knome | maybe it's set to ignore him :P | 10:45 |
bluesabre | makes sense | 10:45 |
knome | i don't know... it shouldn't really | 10:45 |
knome | sometimes people set ignores on trolls | 10:45 |
bluesabre | :'( | 10:46 |
knome | maybe one of those is too broad | 10:46 |
knome | asking for other factoids work? | 10:46 |
bluesabre | !fi | knome | 10:46 |
ubottu | knome: Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-) | 10:46 |
knome | yep, weird | 10:46 |
slickymasterWork | ah ah ah | 10:46 |
knome | bluesabre, what if you ask for the same factoid again? | 10:46 |
slickymasterWork | that's why, the bot only understands finnish | 10:47 |
Unit193 | I don't see bluesabre!~bluesabre@ubuntu/member/bluesabre matching any. | 10:47 |
bluesabre | !team | sorry the the unnecessary ping (please see the more important ones above) | 10:47 |
ubottu | sorry the the unnecessary ping (please see the more important ones above): bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 10:47 |
* knome shrugs | 10:47 | |
bluesabre | who knows | 10:47 |
knome | maybe the bot doesn't want you to call the same factoid twice in a row | 10:47 |
slickymasterWork | hey Unit193. Did you saw my answer to the question you made to knome re your renewal? | 10:48 |
ochosi | bluesabre: about the greeter bug, i've never been able to reproduce, just remembered that you had that issue at some point | 10:48 |
bluesabre | anyhoo, np | 10:48 |
Unit193 | slickymasterWork: Yeppers. | 10:48 |
knome | huh.. i have some weird docs branch | 10:48 |
bluesabre | I'll send out a call for package translations today | 10:48 |
slickymasterWork | weird how knome? | 10:49 |
knome | has some hardcoded paths | 10:49 |
bluesabre | (and include a note to remember the docs translations) | 10:49 |
knome | bluesabre, cheers ;) | 10:49 |
slickymasterWork | bluesabre: finishing menulibre and heading on to mugshot | 10:49 |
slickymasterWork | eh eh bluesabre, thanks | 10:49 |
Unit193 | knome: bzr status / log? | 10:49 |
bluesabre | slickymasterWork: thanks | 10:50 |
knome | Unit193, gone already, diff didn't show anything to keep | 10:50 |
slickymasterWork | bzr is acting up | 10:50 |
Unit193 | Always is, what's up this time? | 10:51 |
knome | typo fix with updated pot pushed | 10:51 |
slickymasterWork | great knome, thanks | 10:51 |
slickymasterWork | that string is the only one missing in my translation | 10:52 |
knome | heh | 10:52 |
knome | good for the portugues | 10:52 |
slickymasterWork | the finnish guys are loosing the race :P | 10:52 |
Unit193 | Already missed today's 6am cutoff. | 10:52 |
knome | +e | 10:52 |
knome | Unit193, "aww" :P | 10:52 |
knome | slickymasterWork, hah, as if it mattered as long as all the strings were there on release;) | 10:53 |
slickymasterWork | knome: don't forget menulibre and mugshot | 10:53 |
Unit193 | Oooh! It's 7am, still a couple minutes! :P | 10:53 |
slickymasterWork | yeah, just messing with you | 10:53 |
knome | slickymasterWork, yep. | 10:53 |
slickymasterWork | Unit193: in six months time the answer to the renewal question will be the same :P | 10:55 |
Unit193 | Meh, could change, I don't do a a ton with them as-is. | 10:56 |
slickymasterWork | you're work is need, and awesome, behind the spotlights | 10:57 |
slickymasterWork | s/you're/your | 10:57 |
slickymasterWork | s/need/needed | 10:57 |
* slickymasterWork wonders off to smoke a cigarette | 10:58 | |
elfy | bluesabre: thanks - looked at pad also, looks sane enough | 11:10 |
bluesabre | elfy: if you have any changes, let me know | 11:11 |
bluesabre | not trying to pull anything over anybody's eyes, I like to work in the open and well before freezes | 11:11 |
knome | slickymasterWork, you are right... nothing quite gives me the same warm, happy feeling than Unit193 contributing to xubuntu... | 11:12 |
slickymasterWork | :) you and me alike knome | 11:12 |
bluesabre | slickymasterWork, knome: me too | 11:12 |
bluesabre | I feel all fuzzy now | 11:12 |
* slickymasterWork considers him a must have | 11:12 | |
Unit193 | I sware knome is on something. | 11:12 |
knome | i'm always on something | 11:13 |
elfy | bluesabre: the wrap one was the issue for me - adding a workspace is easy - but with wrap gone I had to report 2 bugs ;) | 11:13 |
bluesabre | elfy: gotcha | 11:13 |
bluesabre | alrighty, I'll be out for a while now, bbl | 11:13 |
elfy | have a good day :) | 11:13 |
bluesabre | you too | 11:13 |
knome | yep, good day to bluesabre | 11:13 |
* elfy is now on 3 and a half day weekend | 11:14 | |
slickymasterWork | damn elfy, how I envy you :P | 11:14 |
ochosi | ttyl bluesabre | 11:14 |
elfy | slickymasterWork: until payday ;) | 11:15 |
knome | considering taking tomorrow off as well, but unlikely to happen | 11:15 |
slickymasterWork | well, if you knew the payday amounts these days over here elfy | 11:15 |
elfy | image is broken with this lightdm bug - if that's what it is | 12:08 |
bluesabre | didn't add any new settings changes yesterday, so not my fault | 12:09 |
elfy | lol | 12:09 |
elfy | got the same issue in my other install atm | 12:09 |
Unit193 | Carp, don't reboot or update the other 'un. | 12:11 |
elfy | it's this one that works | 12:12 |
elfy | the other better one is unfortunately updated | 12:12 |
Unit193 | We're not the only ones in here using utopic right? | 12:13 |
elfy | don't thinks so | 12:13 |
knome | team factoid updated. | 12:25 |
elfy | thanks knome | 12:25 |
knome | np | 12:27 |
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slickymasterWork | bluesabre, I believe there's a typo in one of the Mugshot's strings in https://translations.launchpad.net/mugshot/trunk | 14:40 |
slickymasterWork | in the string: "This stable release fixed a crash that occured when saving user details in a non-English locale. This release also included an updated translation template and new translations." | 14:40 |
slickymasterWork | shouldn't it be 'occurred' instead of 'occured'? | 14:40 |
elfy | ochosi bluesabre - found another oddity it seems - window manager theme is set to default - which is blue, thought it was supposed to be greybird | 14:50 |
elfy | oh nvm | 14:51 |
elfy | using startx it appears it starts the xfce session instead of xubuntu | 14:52 |
elfy | brb | 14:53 |
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ochosi | slickymaster: please keep the guidelines for xfce docs in mind when taking screenshots (theme+icons) | 17:32 |
ochosi | remember when we worked on xfdesktop | 17:32 |
elfy | evening ochosi | 17:35 |
brainwash | Noskcaj: MRE for xfdesktop4 should be doable or? http://lpaste.net/110504 | 17:52 |
brainwash | if no, maybe we should just cherry pick one or more patches | 17:54 |
ochosi | pleia2: how's the xfce bounty marketing thingy coming along? | 18:12 |
* elfy hasn't had time to look at his action from last meeting yet ochosi | 18:13 | |
pleia2 | oh, I should do that | 18:14 |
elfy | thanks pleia2 - I'll change the logs :D | 18:15 |
pleia2 | ochosi: I'll make some plans tonight and let you know if I have questions | 18:15 |
ochosi | pleia2: thanks, that's great! | 18:15 |
ochosi | elfy: would be great if you could look into it until the meeting, otherwise we'll just carry it forward till the next meeting | 18:16 |
elfy | if I can I will | 18:19 |
ochosi | bbl | 18:19 |
elfy | Unit193: had to create a .rules file to get lightdm to work | 19:02 |
elfy | http://pastebin.com/BL3ADDMG if you're interested | 19:03 |
brainwash | "Simply logging off provokes the back screen symptom (!)" | 19:35 |
brainwash | this sounds familiar | 19:35 |
Noskcaj | brainwash, yeah, we can. Could you file it? | 20:07 |
brainwash | Noskcaj: maybe | 20:08 |
brainwash | what about the regression potential? | 20:08 |
brainwash | we got a lp report | 20:08 |
brainwash | it's a bit confusing.. elfy confirmed that a patch has fixed the desktop freezing bug, but other users continued to experience it, so the patch was removed upstream (before 4.11.7) | 20:15 |
brainwash | Noskcaj: did your first mre request have any success? | 20:16 |
brainwash | the panel plugin one | 20:17 |
Noskcaj | brainwash, It's been ignored | 20:17 |
brainwash | ouch :( | 20:17 |
Noskcaj | bluesabre, Could you look at bug 1339911 | 20:18 |
ubottu | bug 1339911 in xfce4-clipman-plugin (Ubuntu) "[MRE] Please update xfce4-clipman-plugin to 1.2.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1339911 | 20:18 |
Unit193 | xubutrello: card 85 link | 22:58 |
Unit193 | I'd hope this late it won't land, and nothing really has hit the tracking bug #1358209. | 22:58 |
xubutrello | https://trello.com/c/lgQiG8tA/85-update-the-docs-networking-section-for-the-new-networkmanager | 22:58 |
ubottu | bug 1358209 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Please update Network Manager version to 0.9.10.0 or 0.9.8.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358209 | 22:58 |
Unit193 | Bug #1351977 | 22:59 |
ubottu | bug 1351977 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "New upstream release 0.9.10.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1351977 | 22:59 |
ochosi | Unit193: are there grave differences? | 23:11 |
* ochosi hadn't even noticed there was a new release | 23:11 | |
Unit193 | IIRC, nm-tool no longer exists, which we talk about in the doc. nmcli is the newer, cooler one (TUI, ncurses). | 23:12 |
ochosi | Unit193: ah right, maybe we have in fact talked about it | 23:19 |
Unit193 | ochosi: We have. | 23:19 |
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