| hatch | can I deploy a precise charm to a trusty host somehow in the CLI? a --force option or the like? | 01:38 |
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| rick_h_ | hatch: no, I don't think it's allowed. I know we added logic to block that in the GUI. | 02:25 |
| marcoceppi | hatch: you can branch it locally. | 03:52 |
| hatch | marcoceppi: yeah that's what I ended up doing | 04:12 |
| lazyPower | mkdir ~/charms/trusty && cd ~/charms/trust && charm get cs:precise/charm | 04:13 |
| lazyPower | deploy and cross fingers | 04:13 |
| lazyPower | 4/5 of the time, it 'just works' - unless its got apache2 embedded in the charm. With the files being moved around as of the trusty release, some charms just plain go supernova on deploy | 04:13 |
| hatch | haha nah I was playing around with different providers seeing how much I could run on a single machine | 04:14 |
| hatch | digital ocean is leagues ahead of ec2 in terms of performance | 04:14 |
| lazyPower | Those SSD backed SAN's they use make all teh difference | 04:14 |
| lazyPower | a lot of the latency you see on AWS is the EBS IO latency | 04:14 |
| hatch | identical setups and the digital ocean was anywhere from 50-100ms faster per request at 20 concurrent requests | 04:15 |
| lazyPower | less infrastructure to manage at present too :) But I agree, I <3 DigitalOcean | 04:15 |
| hatch | heh yeah true | 04:15 |
| lazyPower | My entire personal infrastructure is up on there, the remnants of my business, and pet projects all go on DO | 04:15 |
| hatch | I recently found out about a Canadian host https://www.clouda.ca/ | 04:15 |
| lazyPower | Oh I've looked at them for a client project. They were super nice. | 04:15 |
| hatch | more expensive but 100% Canadian and running openstack :) | 04:15 |
| hatch | I'm too tired, tomorrow I'll do the same tests as I did on ec2 and DO today | 04:16 |
| hatch | see how they stack up for that extra $ :) | 04:16 |
| lazyPower | Yeah, i'm wrapping up today's todo list that got a bit hairy. I spent an obscene amount of time cycling over something silly | 04:17 |
| hatch | yeah, that happens hah | 04:17 |
| hatch | I was loadtesting the built in sqlite setup as well | 04:18 |
| lazyPower | I'm one of those crazy peeps that runs his ghost setup on the sqlite db | 04:18 |
| hatch | honestly it didn't seem like it was having any trouble at 20concurrent requests | 04:18 |
| lazyPower | hatch: you using loader.io to test? | 04:18 |
| hatch | atm I was just doing ab on a fast connection | 04:18 |
| hatch | so it wasn't 'true' load testing | 04:19 |
| hatch | but gave a reasonable idea watching the cpu on the vm and the reporting from ab | 04:19 |
| hatch | on DO the requests are highly CPU bound | 04:19 |
| hatch | 20 concurrent puts it at high 80's | 04:20 |
| hatch | so using something like mod_cache would be recommended to get good hardware utilization | 04:21 |
| hatch | anyways I think I'll get the apache2 charm set up for my url redirects then fire apache2 and ghost up on something small and see how it pans out without mysql | 04:22 |
| hatch | will have to set something up to do backups | 04:22 |
| hatch | though | 04:22 |
| hatch | anyways I'm outa-here, have a good night lazyPower | 04:23 |
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| JoshStrobl | Morning everyone | 10:57 |
| JoshStrobl | jcastro, I got the t-shirt man, it is awesome (you were right) and it is now the softest one I own. Gonna take some pics of it (and me wearing it, of course). | 10:58 |
| mbruzek | Hey guys I just created a pull request to link the new charm-review-process document that JoshStrobl created in our docs. https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/158 | 14:33 |
| rcj | [Question] Having a problem with a relation_set(...) which is failing silently http://paste.ubuntu.com/8260194/ | 14:34 |
| mbruzek | lazyPower, marcoceppi, evilnickveitch, arosales ^ | 14:34 |
| rcj | I'm running a hook via juju-run from a cron job and in there is a relation_set to change a variable in a peer relationship. That isn't happening but I'm not getting errors. | 14:35 |
| rcj | Larger context is @ https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rcj/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/trunk/view/head:/hooks/hooks.py#L167 | 14:35 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: you don't sepcify a remote unit | 14:45 |
| marcoceppi | you have to loop through all the units in that relationship_id | 14:46 |
| marcoceppi | using relation_list (I believe) | 14:46 |
| evilnickveitch | mbruzek, done | 14:48 |
| mbruzek | Thanks Nick. | 14:48 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, thanks. I'll try that. | 14:49 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, on that same line of questioning. Can I set a configuration value where the key isn't in the config.yaml? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8260290 This changes the 'rsync-mintues' on each invocation. | 14:52 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, for the relation_set I don't see how you'd specify unit in charmhelpers.core.hookenv.relation_set(). What am I missing? | 14:56 |
| arosales | mbruzek: thanks for working on getting pull 158 linked into the docs. I think it would be valuable to have that in the side bar under "Charm Store Policy" with the name of "Charm Review Process" | 15:03 |
| tvansteenburgh | anyone know what might cause this, considering that i can manually bootstrap this environment just fine: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8260380/ | 15:04 |
| mbruzek | arosales, that is what I did. | 15:04 |
| arosales | mbruzek: | 15:04 |
| mbruzek | arosales, are you seeing something different ? | 15:04 |
| arosales | mbruzek: no, just behind :-) | 15:05 |
| arosales | mbruzek: thanks for working on that | 15:05 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: it's trying to conecct to the internal IP | 15:06 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: do you have sshuttle running? | 15:06 |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi: it tries the public dns name first though | 15:07 |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi: no sshuttle running | 15:07 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: I wonder if this is new in 1.20.6 | 15:07 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, looking at relation_set() I don't know what you mean by looping through all the units. I don't see a way to set a unit and I thought that I would set for the local unit and that would fire the X-relation-changed hook for the relation? | 15:14 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: I'm trying to figure out now, it was in here | 15:17 |
| marcoceppi | it exists for relation_get | 15:17 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, that would make sense for relation_get because I would want to get the dictionary for that unit, but you can't set things on remote units, only the local unit's relation, right? | 15:18 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: you can set relation data for remote units | 15:19 |
| rcj | Now this is running via juju-run, so it's not in a relation hook with any of the environment that would bring. | 15:19 |
| marcoceppi | at least | 15:19 |
| marcoceppi | it should be | 15:19 |
| marcoceppi | if you can get info for a unit but can't set info for a unit | 15:20 |
| marcoceppi | it's like an unmatched side, or so it seams | 15:20 |
| marcoceppi | seems* | 15:20 |
| * marcoceppi experiments | 15:20 | |
| marcoceppi | okay, maybe not | 15:22 |
| marcoceppi | what makes you think it's silently failing? | 15:22 |
| rcj | I can drop into debug-hooks and run the same thing and not see the relation change. Then the other peers in the relation aren't seeing cluster-relation-changed hooks firing. | 15:23 |
| rcj | and the return code from 'relaation-set' on the cmdline is 0 while it doesn't show up in 'relation-get' output | 15:23 |
| marcoceppi | relation settings aren't sent until that hook context closes | 15:23 |
| rcj | I understand, so after that experiment I exit hook and none of the peers see the change hooks fired | 15:24 |
| rcj | But relation-get after relation-set in the same hook should see the new value, right? | 15:24 |
| marcoceppi | let me spin up a peer, my juju run example worked | 15:24 |
| marcoceppi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8260557/ | 15:25 |
| rcj | is "juju run --unit <unitID <cmd>" the same as "juju-run <unitID> <cmd>"? | 15:26 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: one is from the unit the other is from the client | 15:26 |
| marcoceppi | juju run --unit is from the client side | 15:26 |
| rcj | And does it need to run as root on the client or can it be another use I created? | 15:27 |
| marcoceppi | so, client being your desktop | 15:27 |
| marcoceppi | from the unit you can run it unprivildged | 15:28 |
| rcj | great | 15:28 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, I can't recreate | 15:43 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: can't recreate which? | 15:44 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, the relation-set issue at present. It's not that it's working, I just am having other issues that prevent me from getting that far with the charm. | 15:47 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: ah, well let me know what happens either way | 15:47 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, how about the config setting question though.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8260290/ | 15:48 |
| rcj | 'rsync-minutes' isn't part of config.yaml, can I set something in the config that isn't in that file? | 15:48 |
| rcj | When that hook is run it set's a new value each time. | 15:48 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: I guess not, I'm not very familiar with the config stuff, I think cory_fu wrote it actually | 15:49 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: it seems you can, > Store arbitrary data for use in a later hook. | 15:50 |
| rcj | I din't know if there was an obvious bug in that code | 15:50 |
| cory_fu | marcoceppi, rcj: Actually, tvansteenburgh wrote it, but yes, you can set arbitrary values into the config dict and they will persist as long as you call config.save() | 15:50 |
| cory_fu | rcj: That seems like it should work and only generate a value once. | 15:52 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: is this being run via juju-run as well, or hook context? | 15:52 |
| tvansteenburgh | cory_fu, rcj: you don't even have to call save if you using @hook or Services Framework | 15:52 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, that's beeing run in hook context | 15:52 |
| cory_fu | tvansteenburgh: Did you add config.save() to the services framework when I wasn't looking? :) | 15:52 |
| tvansteenburgh | cory_fu yes | 15:52 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rcj/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/trunk/view/head:/lib/ubuntu_repository_cache/util.py#L165 | 15:52 |
| cory_fu | tvansteenburgh: Awesome! | 15:52 |
| rcj | it's always called from hook context | 15:53 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, calling function is https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rcj/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/trunk/view/head:/hooks/hooks.py#L118 | 15:53 |
| cory_fu | rcj: I think he meant from a @hook decorated function. But, you're manually saving it anyway, so it shouldn't matter | 15:53 |
| tvansteenburgh | rcj: yeah, so you don't actually need the save(), it'll happen for you | 15:54 |
| tvansteenburgh | rcj: as long as you have the latest charmhelpers | 15:54 |
| cory_fu | tvansteenburgh: Any idea why that config.get() would end up being false, then, if it's already been generated? | 15:54 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, the problem I'm having is that each time that code is called it sets a new value | 15:54 |
| rcj | and charmhelpers in my charm is very fresh | 15:55 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: do you see the .juju-presistent file in the charm? | 15:56 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, yes, .juju-persistent-config is present and has the latest value | 15:57 |
| tvansteenburgh | rcj: yeah, i think i need to override __getitem__ to make it work the way you expect | 15:58 |
| tvansteenburgh | rcj: but for now you could do `if not config.previous(var)` | 15:58 |
| cory_fu | tvansteenburgh: So, if you persist an arbitrary value, it will not show up in the current config but only in the previous? | 16:00 |
| cory_fu | That does seem like a bug, since storing arbitrary values is explicitly listed as a feature | 16:00 |
| tvansteenburgh | i'm gonna post a MP with a fix momentarily | 16:02 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, so I need to get the value as config['rsync-minutes'] on the first invocation and then as config.previous('rsync-minutes') for all future runs? | 16:02 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, ah, I'll wait for the MP and merge it into my tree instead | 16:02 |
| tvansteenburgh | k | 16:02 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, can you ping me with a patch when it's ready? | 16:02 |
| tvansteenburgh | rcj: certainly | 16:03 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, thanks | 16:03 |
| tvansteenburgh | rcj: https://code.launchpad.net/~tvansteenburgh/charm-helpers/fix-config-lookups/+merge/233558 | 16:36 |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi: got time for a quick review/merge of that? ^ | 16:36 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: yeah | 16:37 |
| * marcoceppi loks | 16:37 | |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi: hang on | 16:39 |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi: i want to change something | 16:39 |
| marcoceppi | go on | 16:39 |
| tvansteenburgh | marcoceppi: ok i'm done for real now | 16:44 |
| marcoceppi | tvansteenburgh: you're lucky I'm lazy ;) | 16:44 |
| tvansteenburgh | haha | 16:44 |
| natefinch | arg, how can open port not be idempotent by default? :/ | 16:51 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: ^^ I reran a failed install and got "cannot open ports 80-80/tcp on machine 5 due to conflict" how am I supposed to handle that? | 16:53 |
| rcj | marcoceppi, I can't recreate the issue with the relation_set() not propagating. The problem, if there still is one, must be on my side. Thanks for your help. | 17:29 |
| rcj | tvansteenburgh, thanks | 17:29 |
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| rick_h_ | marcoceppi: got a sec to chat an idea out loud? | 18:08 |
| marcoceppi | rcj: I will in about 20 mins, otp | 18:09 |
| marcoceppi | rick_h_: * ^ | 18:09 |
| rick_h_ | marcoceppi: rgr ty | 18:09 |
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| marcoceppi | rick_h_: back | 18:33 |
| rick_h_ | marcoceppi: cool | 18:34 |
| rick_h_ | marcoceppi: invite otw | 18:34 |
| allomov | hey, I have a problem with running juju on Openstack | 18:54 |
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| allomov | it seems that floating IPs are not set to instances | 18:56 |
| allomov | I have set use-floating-ip to true in env yml | 18:56 |
| allomov | the question for me now: what network uuid I need to pass to network option in env yml (private or public) | 18:58 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: that's a good question, you'll want to pass the public one IIRC | 19:10 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: thank you for answer. | 19:33 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: unfortunately I still get this error https://gist.githubusercontent.com/allomov/188131c84fdbcbab5ea8/raw/4bdabe95471797c0d6aad4829557a23d43d4e30d/fail-juju.log | 19:35 |
| allomov | here is my env file https://gist.githubusercontent.com/allomov/188131c84fdbcbab5ea8/raw/f4068e094ce52db43008e825b111645f28854381/juju.yml | 19:35 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: 1.20.6 ? | 19:35 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: how did you know ) | 19:36 |
| marcoceppi | lucky guess :) | 19:36 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: yes, it is | 19:36 |
| marcoceppi | (and my goldfish memory from yesterday hasn't worn off, glad you got the imagestream stuff sorted) | 19:36 |
| allomov | hah | 19:37 |
| allomov | yes, it's me | 19:37 |
| allomov | I generated image metadata to ~/.juju/metadata with `juju generate-image` command. | 19:37 |
| marcoceppi | whew, that would have been really embarassing if it wasn't you | 19:37 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: well the bootstrap error I don't t hink is related to networking | 19:38 |
| allomov | I even got it running, at least it started to bootstrap environment and cerated a node | 19:39 |
| allomov | but since I pointed to the private network it couldn't ssh to bootstrap node | 19:40 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: well that log shows a failure to bootstrap / find the tools/image data | 19:40 |
| allomov | after that I removed jenv file (to apply new configuration) | 19:40 |
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| allomov | marcoceppi: so I need to point a tools url I guess ? | 19:41 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: yeah, so after you generate teh metadata you need to host the images metadata and the tools somewhere (usually in the object store with a publically accessible bucket) | 19:41 |
| marcoceppi | then set image-metadata-url and tools-metadata-url in your environments.yaml to that public location | 19:42 |
| allomov | could it be a local file system ? | 19:42 |
| marcoceppi | it needs to be accessible by the bootstrap node | 19:42 |
| allomov | ok, will try to go this way | 19:42 |
| allomov | thank you | 19:42 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: thank you | 19:42 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: sure, sorry you're hvaing such a rough go at it. If you get it running let me know where we can improve our documentation / workflow (or email the mailing list juju@lists.ubuntu.com) | 19:43 |
| marcoceppi | you're certainly not the only one running a private openstack cloud | 19:43 |
| marcoceppi | I'll also be around most of tomorrow/Sunday too if you need more help | 19:43 |
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| allomov | marcoceppi: bad news, still can't make it run. | 21:50 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: bootstrap node is created, but I can't get access to it. | 21:51 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: can you re-bootstrap with --debug flag? | 21:52 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: sure | 21:52 |
| marcoceppi | and paste the output (careful, some credentials might leak at the topofthe log | 21:52 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: the point is I can't get access to created instance | 21:52 |
| marcoceppi | sure, running --debug will give a very verbose output client side | 21:53 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: here it is https://gist.githubusercontent.com/allomov/188131c84fdbcbab5ea8/raw/24a64a47a6cde78e66db830c57a2dfd57534289e/gistfile1.txt | 21:58 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: deployment is stucked on ssh | 21:59 |
| allomov | I can create node in the same network and with the same image (the image I pointed creating metadata) there and ssh to it | 22:01 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: machine logs from openstack web console are different by the way for this two cases | 22:04 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: I'm guessing 172.16.0.84 is not public ip | 22:04 |
| allomov | it's a public network for me | 22:05 |
| marcoceppi | so it looks like the floating ip is getting added? | 22:05 |
| marcoceppi | that SSH prompt might go on for a while | 22:05 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: it's basically a loop until the instance registers | 22:05 |
| marcoceppi | > Attempting to connect to 172.16.0.84:22 | 22:06 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: it can't ssh for 10 m | 22:06 |
| marcoceppi | shows that it's assigned that IP | 22:06 |
| marcoceppi | or at least that's what it thinks the IP is | 22:06 |
| marcoceppi | can you reach that IP now? is the instance up in horizon? | 22:06 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: no, I can't | 22:06 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: I tried to create new node with openstack web console with the same network and image, and I can ssh to it | 22:07 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: bleh, that's lame | 22:07 |
| marcoceppi | is the IP actually allocated and added to that instance in horizon? | 22:07 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: I have different outputs for juju machine and for machine created manually | 22:07 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: different how? | 22:08 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: I mean logs in openstack web console | 22:09 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: here is log for machine created with juju https://gist.githubusercontent.com/allomov/188131c84fdbcbab5ea8/raw/34140f9c803ff71a466c73e36b536bdc45fa95b9/machine-log-1 | 22:09 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: here is a log for machine created manually with the same image https://gist.githubusercontent.com/allomov/188131c84fdbcbab5ea8/raw/1efaaa681fd2a31fef4e12d23b8e40fcf1d758f5/machine-log-2 | 22:09 |
| marcoceppi | so, cloud init isn't running on the juju machine | 22:10 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: are you using Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Cloud images? I'm guessing the later? | 22:10 |
| marcoceppi | latter* | 22:10 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: I used ubuntu image that was already in openstack | 22:11 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: could you tell how can I check it ? | 22:11 |
| marcoceppi | Not entirely sure | 22:12 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: do I need download and install other image ? | 22:13 |
| marcoceppi | allomov: I'm nto sure, and I don't want to lead you in the wrong direction | 22:14 |
| marcoceppi | I'm reaching the end of my knowledge with troubleshooting openstack clouds | 22:14 |
| allomov | marcoceppi: ok, will stay on this stage for now. thank you for your help. see you. | 22:15 |
| marcoceppi | You could try to add a new image, then you'd have to update the image-metadata, etc, but http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ is where we house all our cloud images which is the basis for all our cloud provided images (ec2, hp, azure, etc) | 22:15 |
| marcoceppi | You should be able to add the amd64.root.tar.gz to openstack and try that if you exhaust other options | 22:16 |
| marcoceppi | I really wish I had more to offer or insights | 22:19 |
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| dpb1 | Trying to install the juju-gui charm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8264500/ | 22:40 |
| dpb1 | :( | 22:40 |
| marcoceppi | dpb1: wat. What version Ubuntu is this? | 22:42 |
| dpb1 | trusty, up to date | 22:42 |
| dpb1 | I was just going to try it here | 22:42 |
| dpb1 | worked fine on an lxc here.. who knows | 23:01 |
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