[01:29] <Ahmuck> wxl: yes
[01:29] <Ahmuck> root      1746  0.0  0.2  37944  4280 ?        Sl   17:22   0:00 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
[01:29] <Ahmuck> drbeams  11760  0.0  0.0   4684   824 pts/0    S+   20:29   0:00 grep -i power
[01:37] <Ahmuck> depends upon the computer.  on another computer i have "user [ some numbers ] [time] xfce4-power-manager
[01:39] <Ahmuck> so there are three power managers running by default on lubuntu?
[01:43] <Ahmuck> actually i have on another computer three but the other is "grep --color=auto -i power"
[03:33] <Ahmuck> i found menu entries.  digging through them for pointers to binarys.  looking for start process to map graphically.
[03:43] <Ahmuck> menu editing could be scripted as a php app
[03:44] <Ahmuck> from default and/or pyth on as well
[03:54] <Ahmuck> ah, this is good.  found the panel config
[03:54] <Ahmuck> which points back to the menu
[03:55] <Ahmuck> time to create flow charts
[04:35] <Ahmuck> is there a dev channel for lubuntu?
[04:35] <ianorlin> no
[04:36] <holstein> Ahmuck: the *-offtopic is the unofficial lubuntu dev channel.. but, you should just file a bug
[04:36] <holstein> !bug
[04:36] <Ahmuck> so ... i've been backtracing and i'm going to create a vm with a vm of lubuntu to see what the defaults are.
[04:36] <Ahmuck> if i am correct, i understand why there are double icons and what may be producing them
[04:37] <holstein> great.. that can be your second entry in the bug report
[04:37] <Ahmuck> as well as a number of other problems with the panel, systray, indicator, startup, etc.
[04:37] <holstein> hey... you can do as many as you need
[04:37] <Ahmuck> and i think it would be very easy to design a gui that would allow a user to easily step through a better customization of the desktop
[04:37] <holstein> Ahmuck: sure.. but "better" is a matter of opinion
[04:38] <Ahmuck> so easy i think i may be able to design it.
[04:38] <holstein> when you get it done, consider taking it upstream so it trickles into all the downstream projects.. but, lxde is changing
[04:40] <holstein> it think you'll find you'll need to reinstall on metal there on that machine, not a vm, to repeat the issue.. but, link me a bug report and i'll try and replicate the issue
[04:42] <holstein> Ahmuck: do you get 2 power icons with the live CD?
[04:44] <holstein> Ahmuck: anyways, im going to sleep.  feel free and ping me with bug reports that state how you are getting what exact errors/issues, and i'll be glad to try and replicate..
[04:47] <Ahmuck> ya, no not filing bugs no more
[04:47] <Ahmuck> they don't get fixed, don't get looked at until several releases later, don't ...
[04:48] <Ahmuck> better to fix it my self or pay to get it fixed
[04:53] <Ahmuck> looking at LubuntuHelp and FreeDesktop.org provides me with info on startup of desktop apps and lxstart apps as well as .... where do i find start sequence of the underlying os?
[06:08] <Ahmuck> 14.10 is lxqt?
[06:09] <Unit193> No.
[06:12] <Ahmuck> so dabbling in lxde is usefull at this point
[06:15] <Ahmuck> ?
[09:13] <martin1989> people!
[09:13] <martin1989> hi
[09:13] <martin1989> i wanna install command and conquer red alert 2 using play on linux
[09:14] <martin1989> but it isnt on play on linux repositories!
[09:14] <martin1989> i cant believe it! best game ever!
[16:05] <tonyt> is there a fix for screen tearing?
[16:05] <pleia2> depends on your graphics card
[16:07] <tonyt> amd r7 240
[16:07] <tonyt> any help on a link to a "how to" would be cool
[16:13] <tonyt> nm. seems there is setting in the catylist app. "tear free desktop"
[18:15] <johncooper> when I run a script from desktop shortcut, or steam from anything, computer freezes (total complete no response freeze)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8261753/
[18:16] <johncooper> afert a minute or so, graphics have a motionless skewed blue and black lines kinda like it show be rolling from out of sync
[18:18] <johncooper> should be rolling, rather
[18:53]  * johncooper afk
[21:43] <Ahmuck> what is gvfsd-?