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rick_h_bah, shold have looked harder for your nick aisrael00:19
rick_h_I was trying to tab complete stone<tab> and ar<tab>00:19
rick_h_not sure what I thought the second one was lol00:19
smoserhey. aisrael welcome. saw your response above as: madam, I'm adam00:49
jrwren_cmaloney: Duanne overdosed on heroine I'm not sure if I'd call that bucking the trend.01:31
jrwren_cmaloney: some of their best material is after he is gone :(01:31
cmaloneyjrwren_: Kind of my point, though Dwayne did mark a turning point for the band03:25
rick_h_morning11:24
rick_h_and such11:24
brousch_jrwren_: You bought a $60 Android tablet and expect it to be a good device representative of Android?13:37
cmaloneygood morning13:58
cmaloneyWho wouldn't? :)13:58
brousch_I just read the article on Windows 8 with Bing. They run everything from compressed images, on slow CPUs with 1GB RAM?!14:01
brousch_http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-fights-android-and-chrome-os-with-dirt-cheap-windows-8-1-pcs-and-tablets-7000033274/14:01
brousch_Most likely from low end flash RAM that gets slower over time14:02
brousch_flash memory14:02
jrwren_yes.14:03
jrwren_why wouldn't it?14:03
jrwren_I can buy the cheapest apple iOS tablet and it is an excellent repreentation of iOS.14:03
brousch_You are being silly14:03
jrwren_brousch_: I know :)14:03
jrwren_I really should try a $300 android tab for comparison.14:04
brousch_But now i kind of want this Windows tablet to see if it actually runs at all14:04
jrwren_can't compare software... have to compare products at same price points.14:04
brousch_And how do updates apply to the compressed system images?14:05
brousch_It would be a miraculous feat of engineering if it actually worked14:05
jrwren_agreed.14:07
jrwren_I really need someone to teach me how to use android some day.14:08
jrwren_because, for me,  its harder to use than emacs14:08
brousch_I have an iphone user transitioning to Android right now. So far no problems14:10
brousch_I was surprised as he was a fairly gung-ho Apple guy14:10
jrwren_brousch_: maybe 4.1 was extra bad.14:12
jrwren_brousch_: I can't find apps. They get installed, adn tehy show up 20 pages to the right on the "desktop"14:12
jrwren_UNUSABLE!14:12
brousch_I really don't even remember 4.1. I went 2.3 to 4.03 to 4.2+14:12
jrwren_it might not even be 4.114:13
brousch_Well all of the apps are in the app drawer. How that's sorted depends on what your manufacturer decided to use14:14
jrwren_http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Sirius-S702-R1B-2-7-Inch-Tablet/dp/B00CWKVJOW%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00CWKVJOW14:14
jrwren_yup, 4.114:14
jrwren_*sigh* app drawer... sometimes I remember how to find that. sometimes I don't.14:14
brousch_usually it's the middle icon on the bottom row of every home screen14:15
jrwren_I should stop my bitching and root the thing.14:15
brousch_though it is possible to delete it. then the default physical button will usually open it too14:16
brousch_hm, maybe not14:16
brousch_jrwren_: You should be running Ubuntu Touch!14:17
jrwren_brousch_: if I knew how to install it on there, I would.14:17
brousch_I feel like it's taking a long time to become available14:22
cmaloneygeez, you folks are wordy this morning.14:32
jrwren_Its friday.14:33
brousch_:P14:33
brousch_jrwren_ got me all worked up14:33
jrwren_brousch_ loves the android. I don't even understand it.14:33
brousch_I like Android. It's not perfect, but it's sort-of Linux in everyone's pocket14:34
brousch_I would prefer a full OS, exspecially on tablets14:34
brousch_The 'x' is for 'extra'!14:34
jrwren_hahaha, thanks for calling it "sort-of Linux" :)14:36
jrwren_Its Linux in that its a fork of the kernel, only. Beyond that kernel fork it has almost nothing else in common with other Linux distros.14:37
brousch_It's Linux, Jay, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it.14:37
jrwren_brousch_: if that is a star wreck reference, you have made my day.14:37
brousch_:-D14:37
jrwren_There's Klingons off the starboard bow... scrape 'em off captain.14:38
brousch_hm, there's an x86 emulator image for Ubuntu touch. I don't remember that before14:41
cmaloneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE14:42
cmaloneyThat's the reference ^^14:42
wolfgerbrousch_++14:49
wolfgerOMG, it's on YouTube?14:49
wolfgerI'm sorry I watched that. It sounded much better in my memory with Nostalgia™ enhancement.14:51
jrwren_cmaloney: i thought that song was used in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck14:51
cmaloneywolfger: I think it was remixed / enhanced on the Doctor Demento disc I have.14:53
brousch_I only know it from youtube14:56
wolfgerTeenager arrested for making pot brownies faces possible life sentence. A rich old man named Ilitch is busted for felony cocaine possession, winds up with probation and rehab. God bless the United States of Money Worshipping.16:42
greg-gmove to CA, WA, or CO where we respect your pursuit of happiness16:42
wolfgerNah. Not me. Beer's legal everywhere. I'm good. :-)16:43
greg-g:)16:43
greg-gWeed's safer than alcohol ;)16:44
wolfgerso I hear. But I like drinking a lot more than I like smoking.16:44
* greg-g nods16:44
wolfgerAnd I like brewing a lot more than I like farming.16:44
greg-gas a respectable upstanding citizen, I do neither anymore, really16:44
jrwren_you don't grow your own barley?16:49
wolfgerno, although I have thought about malting my own barley16:53
wolfgerI decided it's best for the beer if I let the pros do the malting, and best for my pocketbook if I let the pros do the farming16:54
jrwren_wolfger: really?!?16:54
wolfgerreally to which part? Buying grain is much cheaper than buying farmland and equipment, yes.17:00
greg-g<insert paleo response to how intensive grain production is and why it's dumb except on industrial scales>17:01
wolfgerAlso, I would then be limited to making beer after harvest :-p17:01
greg-gsays the guy who had honey bunches of oats this morning for breakfast (thanks work kitchen)17:01
wolfgerI'd even be willing to pay a little more to support a local barley farm, but.... there's still the malting issue. There is one malthouse I know of in Michigan. I need to contact them again.17:02
cmaloney<insert skeptic response on how Paleo is based on flawed reasoning and is probably only good for reducing your intake of processed foods>17:17
greg-gdefine "paleo" ;)17:17
greg-gmeans very different things to different people, but yeah, less processed food == good :)17:17
cmaloneyI define paleo as the people who use it as a modified Atkins diet.17:18
greg-gthat's still too broad of a category, but ok ;)17:18
greg-gbecause "modified atkins" can just mean "anything that says limit carbs"17:19
cmaloneyI'm being glib as well17:19
greg-gwhich is, well, a bunch of modern science and part of most healthy diets ;)17:19
greg-gcmaloney: when aren't you? ;)17:19
greg-gjust don't be Gib, that'd be mean to take over that role.17:19
cmaloneyhah17:20
cmaloneyWell, on NPR...17:20
cmaloneyI dunno. I tend to think of most mass diets with a lot of skepticism17:20
cmaloneylike when everyone was eating cabbage soup17:21
cmaloneyor Atkins17:21
greg-gdefine "mass diet" ;)   I mean, the main mass diet is "too much soda, too much sugar, too much tv, too little moving"17:21
cmaloneymass diet: Anything you can find on a Wikipedia page with a lengthy talkback section on how it's all rubbish. ;)17:22
cmaloneyAnd yes, I think the "American" diet is rubbish as well17:22
wolfgerIn other words, all diets that weren't made up by Aunt Marge17:22
greg-ghonestly, the wikipedians who fit into the "skeptic" tag are sometimes really just massive assholes, but...17:22
cmaloneygreg-g: Agreed17:23
greg-gyou try to tone down the vitriol and you get slaped in the face17:23
greg-gI'm all for science and debunking shit, but being an ass is just, dumb ;)17:23
cmaloneypretty much any forum where people play "pick and choose" with their facts.17:23
greg-gyep17:23
greg-gok, time for meeting prep, laterz!17:23
cmaloneylaterness.17:24
greg-g(also, partial outage I'm watching ;) )17:24
greg-gout css/js/static server cluster isn't happy17:24
greg-gour*17:24
cmaloneyugh17:24
cmaloneyTell everyone to use gopher in the interim17:24
jrwren_greg-g: wtff??? insert paleo response??? but you eat meat??? wtf do you think the meat you just ate eats?17:49
greg-gjrwren_: not corn17:49
greg-gnot wheat17:49
greg-ggrass17:50
jrwren_paleo: a word that means I can eat whatever i want, while being judgemental of everything else everyone else eats.17:50
cmaloneyrick_h_: I'm finding it pretty hard not to bat the Markdown folks with Restructured Text. :)17:50
greg-gthose people already did that, now they just have an affinity group to join ;)17:51
cmaloneys/bat/bait/17:51
jrwren_greg-g: what meat did you eat that wasn't fed corn or some other big agg grain crop?17:51
greg-gjrwren_: you know cows existed before big ag grain did, right?17:52
greg-gjrwren_: 100% grass feed cow17:52
jrwren_greg-g: hahahahahaha.17:53
jrwren_greg-g: you realize corn is a grass?17:53
greg-gyes, but they aren't fed corn17:53
jrwren_greg-g: I can feed cows nothing but corn on a feed lot and it will be 100% grass fed.17:53
greg-gjrwren_: sure, but I know my rancher(s)17:53
jrwren_greg-g: that rules. I wish I knew some.17:53
greg-gprobably 90% of carrie's calories come from people we talk to once a week17:54
greg-gI'm less than that because I'm not really consistent and eat out at work17:54
greg-g(carrie and rowan's)17:54
jrwren_you are even bigger local eaters than we are.17:55
jrwren_so jealous.17:55
jrwren_then again.. you talk to the people when you eat out and they bring you your food, so all those calaries come from people you talk to.17:56
cmaloneyI can barely talk to the cashier at the checkout.17:58
cmaloneyThat's enough social interaction. ;)17:58
jrwren_I always say "burito please" to the person at chipotle18:01
brousch_I point and grunt. I don't want to know where my food came from18:07
jrwren_I still think about your son thinking animals GAVE us meat.18:07
brousch_I think it was more like they were making it, like in a factory18:08
brousch_chicken nuggets: nuggets made by chickens18:08
brousch_Perfectly logical18:08
brousch_Maybe too much wallace and grommit18:09
jrwren_hahaha18:18
greg-gjrwren_: :) "can I have a #2 with turkey" doesn't count ;)18:42
jrwren_mmm... now I want a burito18:47
jrwren_and also... a farm... kinda.18:48
greg-g:) ditto on both ;)18:53
brousch_cmaloney: Got my ass handed to me by a random on Go20:00
jrwren_!w20:06
cmaloneybrousch_: fun fun. :)20:12
cmaloneyI have yet to play folks on Dragon Go Server20:12
cmaloney(random)20:13
brousch_I did well early on, but he surrounded me and I could not escape20:13
brousch_Similar to how you beat me last time20:13
cmaloneyYeah, I don't think I'm able to repeat that on the 13x13 board. :)20:21
brousch_Maybe not this time20:23
brousch_This random game was 13x1320:23

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